・wuwa-lounge

[opaque flume]

It was 8$

Worth it

[vapid river]

also where tf did this come from? the actual chart not where you forwarded it from. i can see that

[opaque flume]

Big ass crepe

[vapid river]

@lyric fjord where did you get this

^this thing

now we wait

[opaque flume]

Well while we wait

How’s the new update

Is there more story?

[neat robin]

More fishing quest

[opaque flume]

They added fishing?

Genshin copy

Teapot when

[lyric fjord]

phoebe reddit

[neat robin]

Not actual fishing

Its minigame like the block punching puzzles

[opaque flume]

Interesting

[neat robin]

You can kinda just afk a bit its just really slow if you arent tapping zones

[opaque flume]

Crazy

Is it as good as real fishing

[neat robin]

[vapid river]

tyty

[delicate skiff]

Not genshin copy. The event is like Dredge, very similar to that game in many aspects

[harsh coral]

What's the best weapon for SRover in a Phoebe team?

[neat robin]

Eog as always

[neat robin]

I wonder if we can actually buy 2 3costs every week

Or if only the char upgrade stuff will reset

[knotty fiber]

N?

I didn't notice it got nerfed

[lucid pebble]

There's weekly shit?

[neat robin]

Weekly fishing

Idk where to find the coral to buy the echos though😭

I wanna see if they reset each week

And done

[vapid river]

this is nerfed? >.> what was it before?

[knotty fiber]

50% frazz amp

[vapid river]

wtf

[small bronze]

i have a question about phoebe

am i supposed to use the skill or heavy attack one

[knotty fiber]

HA

[small bronze]

and im supposed to be inside the ring right? for the chamuel star

[knotty fiber]

Yes

[knotty fiber]

RT plus filter looks amazing

[vapid river]

leifa

[knotty fiber]

also I feel like

the ram usage has been well reduced in 2.1

[edgy cobalt]

was always fine for me

[knotty fiber]

It's not that much for my system

But I feel like it's using 1gb less

[quasi sable]

Recently my opening got no rovers

Is that normal

[uneven flame]

That actually happened to me too. I don't think that is normal cause it still zooms into were Rover was and there is the glow effect from their hand. But when I logged in again I saw both rovers so idk

[rotund drum]

isnt the order of the deep evil

they literally have a saint of the deep

why is feeb working for them

theres a haligtree too

original zone do not steal

[dusty crown]

spoiler tags please

[vapid river]

tbf that is sq in 2.0 >.>

if we go by normal SHD he's well past the normal dates for having to spoil story stuff

[neat robin]

Its a church you really think it wouldnt be corrupt in some way

[vapid river]

except for the haligtree part

[lyric fjord]

Mondstat church is fine

[vapid river]

all the other info is known or was heavily implied at least

[lyric fjord]

Didnt play 2.1 quests yet but rover didnt share with her his discoveries since it seemed like the church was the lesser evil

[vapid river]

unless simp means this for the haligtree? i haven't done 2.1 so i'm assuming that part is from there

[vapid river]

only healing bonus

i just started farming for these

and only healing bonus

finna jump

[neat robin]

Hb on srover, real

[hollow citrus]

Is the quest "Woman In a Mask" bugged or something?

[lucid pebble]

Peam.

[neat robin]

I’m doing something wrong in that mode
Barely got past min reqs for the rewards

[rotund drum]

yeah its literally just miquella's haligtree

im trying to find a screenshot of the brace of the haligtree but iirc there isnt really a good spot in-game where you can see the entire haligtree including the brace

[harsh coral]

Question. What is the meta like at dolphin investment levels (i.e. first few sequences and sigs)? It seems pretty balanced at f2p levels from what I've been reading but I'm not sure how they've been handling power creep on sequences

[opaque flume]

Thanks

[winged belfry]

mods

we have a scambot here

[opaque flume]

This is so peak

[neat robin]

S0r1 for any char before going for dupes tbh

[placid holly]

"balanced" = 80% jinshi runs lol
s0r1 teams clear floors in like 30-40s
so dolphin stuff is immeasurable in the same way it is in genshin

[neat robin]

And dupe investment is char dependant
Carlotta 1/2 are ok but 3 is great
Camy 1&2 both strong increases etc

[knotty fiber]

Nuh uh

Not her s1

That thing is trash

[vapid river]

all i'll say is s6 > s0

[rotund drum]

where do you get more anima for the bote shop

is it a daily thing

[neat robin]

The coral stuff? The premium daily request

[rotund drum]

no point grinding the event past the daily then i guess

[neat robin]

Theres still the two event shops

[rotund drum]

is there an event shop

[neat robin]

Yes

[rotund drum]

oh well

i dont feel like looking for them so hopefully i run into them later

[hollow gorge]

Lmao, so Iansan is a 4* after all. With low quality animations to boot (partly ripped off from QiQi stretching animations). What a joke

I would ping that guy who thought she was a 5* because she was on a pic with other 5* if I cared

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/thatscoolbronooneasked-cool-bro-no-one-asked-gif-22380442

[cobalt cobalt]

So chat

Anyone pull Phoebe?

[quasi sable]

Still waiting next week for leak gameplay

[cobalt apex]

@knotty fiber so i got phoebe

[knotty fiber]

do you have a weapon for her

[cobalt apex]

good question

[knotty fiber]

Do you have Zhezhi's or Yinlin's

[cobalt apex]

I do not

[knotty fiber]

[cobalt apex]

getting a weapon with my luck is already a miracle

[knotty fiber]

Event weapon it is then

Even tho it's kinda cope

[cobalt cobalt]

I’m gonna pull Brant instead

I love pirates

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-brant-gif-11044894322508429745

But I love sakura kinomoto so it was a hard decision

[blissful tulip]

Considering Phoebe because I like her but already have good Spectro DPS Jinshi

Could save up for Brant after I come with the terms that he is the DPS/support with the highest skill ceiling

Because of air dodges

[spice finch]

Phoebe attack is fun to play (in trial) but also waiting for next charcter leak/gameplay before pulling

[rotund drum]

might as well just get all of them if you can afford it

[blissful tulip]

True, but I may lose 50/50 to Calcharo for the 6th time

[neat robin]

Then it wasnt meant to be

[lucid pebble]

What's the weekly limited thing?

Is it fishing?

I'm level 9 and haven't seen any weekly shop.

[neat robin]

Yeah after quest you unlock a fishing shop

[lucid pebble]

Have to do the whole quest?

[neat robin]

I think after lv10 & the big island quest

Have you got the trial brant part?
I unlocked the shop in the same day

[lucid pebble]

I have not seen Brant at all.

[neat robin]

Then you gotta keep going

Ah heres the weekly mode

Well I hope wastes isnt a one-time thing..
if it resets we get more astrites than before (toa, wastes, gateway)

Also theres daily fish for coral, and also 5* requests

Makes me think we can buy the 2 selectable echo boxes every week (please)

[knotty fiber]

No it's not

?? Do people not read or some people spread misinfo

[neat robin]

They also call holograms permanent and those dont reset

Mm the forbidden water part doesnt reset

The respawn water is the (monthly? per patch?) reset
Ok

[knotty fiber]

There's "respawn"

lol

[neat robin]

Wheres that posted at?

[knotty fiber]

https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1888196084813451555/photo/4

Wuthering Waves (@Wuthering_Waves) on X

Whimpering Wastes Available Soon!
Version 2.1 will introduce the brand-new Permanent Challenge Gameplay "Whimpering Wastes." Rovers, let's take a look!

#WutheringWaves

X · Feb 8, 2025, 12:00 PM

[neat robin]

Okay yeah I dont have twitter

I dont see that stuff

[rotund drum]

the weekly shop is pretty dumb since the farming is daily

some of the dailies take a while too

[neat robin]

You can store coral its only 400 a week if the echo boxes reset too

Thats like fishing 3 days of the week

[rotund drum]

yeah it'll probably be one of those things we do for the rsc early on then the stockpile runs out and we just stop caring

like mining ores in genshit

[neat robin]

Its only for the 5 rinacita sets (and nobody using energy 3costs on coord sdps)
If you arent building one of these 2.0-2.1 chars you dont need them

Just nice to have since onset 3costs can be hard to get

[rotund drum]

its free credits and xp mats too

[neat robin]

Okay everything else is locked on the last big island

Cant access it

Think need to finish quest after fishing fame lv12

[neat robin]

Yep

This is ominous though

[opaque flume]

Thanks bro

I needed it

[delicate skiff]

Fly there

Dont swim with the boat

The quest has nothing to do with the isle

[neat robin]

Some bullshit
Introduce a fishing map but cant boat without getting kicked away

[delicate skiff]

I assume it will be used for Brants quest

[lilac hare]

Cantarella icon

[lament shuttle]

Well that doesn’t say much

I wonder if the Brant archetype will be more common

[lucid pebble]

What does bronte do?

[neat robin]

Bronte

Brant is sdps heal, shield, skill outro

[outer jetty]

New event reward, 60 resin per set. Can use double.

That depend on you if this is worth it

[neat robin]

Tunersssss

[winged belfry]

What are the rules?

you pay 60 and get what?

XP and Tuners are the same ammount as Tacet field

[neat robin]

Whats in the boxes

[lucid pebble]

So the weekly thing isn't out yet?

[lucid pebble]

I thought we were supposed to get more EXP and tuners.

[winged belfry]

it is in Asia

[winged belfry]

No, I think you can pick the single set instead of having them be in pairs

[lucid pebble]

[outer jetty]

There is 2 times you are presented with the reward during the run. The visual is the same after finishing domain. Pay 60 resin and you get what I just posted, no other choice.

The box include Rinascita new set and old one

[neat robin]

Oh so its literally same as clearing a tacet field
But you can pick which field sets

[outer jetty]

The run is pretty long, just do tacet field

11 battle (or puzzle) and 2 rest area

Or actually 13 battle cant remember if rest area count

[neat robin]

Is this the weekly mode
Wasnt there supposed to be astrite reward too

[outer jetty]

Worth 1 pull yeah

And other rewards

[rotund drum]

hopefully it saves wuwa

cause this fishing shit sure aint

[winged belfry]

I mean, it's a nice thing to be do both at the same time. But I'm not going to farm the event just for that.

Unless it's fun and I'm bored

[lucid pebble]

[knotty fiber]

No?

It was supposed to be a tacet field replacement

If you do the thing for the weekly, you'll be spared from doing tacet field on that day

And that's it

[hollow gorge]

I mean... Devs did say back in 1.0 that they will raise the tuners income... Later.... Soonish.......🪦

I guess we get tuners from exploration percentage now

W devs

[lyric fjord]

They added conversion of purples into gold in 1.1

[hollow gorge]

Have you been converting much lately?

[lucid pebble]

Echo exp doko?

[lyric fjord]

i have no such issues, i have 5k tuners left

[cobalt apex]

@knotty fiber what do i put on spectro rover?

[knotty fiber]

Moonlit or celestial

[cobalt apex]

and just normal crit build?

[knotty fiber]

Yes

They do pretty decent dmg

[cobalt apex]

alr ty

[knotty fiber]

If you run celestial, run Jue

Basically Hsi setup

[winged belfry]

new frazzle set

[knotty fiber]

One reason why I didn't recommend radiance

Rover has a free sword option being EoG which has crit rate sub, and S1 also gives 15% crate for free

Do I care about more crate with all of what I have already?

Surely

[neat robin]

Is s1 15

I swear mine was 7%

And it was just a weird number to me

Oh 7s

I switched the numbers I see

[rotund drum]

lol what's up with the weekly boss's health pool

i just pounded on him for like 5 minuets and did like 20%

good content

maybe i picked bad buffs

ok yeah he died a lot faster that time

i think its the shitty one that makes it so you have perma lucid dream state but it caps your atk

that is the trap

[rotund drum]

oh the fishing shop doesnt reset

its just the boxes i think

thats less effort honestly

[dusty crown]

this weekly thing is permanent right?

[knotty fiber]

Yes

[rotund drum]

they shoulda added some one-time perma rewards

you ltierally do it once and you're done for the week

nice launch

[blissful tulip]

Feels like a hassle to me, on the bright side it is 1 extra pull per week

[rotund drum]

its just void zero but without any incentive to do it more than once a week

so its pretty much pointless

even hoyo knows to have their big content debuts come with one-time rewards so people will grind it

this is literally their big 3.1 event and you spend like 10 minutes on it and get a whopping 160 primogems and you're done for the week

[neat robin]

Yeah just ignore the entire new wastes mode

This weekly thing is SU but gives astrites & echos instead of jade & whatever useless stuff su gives

[lucid pebble]

I thought the big 2.1 event was fishing.

[neat robin]

That too

We got a weekly mode, monthly mode, and the fishing event for ??? random junk

Sad the echo boxes were onetime purchse

Easy ass credits/xp though if you ever get low while building

Then you get the pufferfish and it does it for you

[winged belfry]

That's what the illusionary realm is, well, will be for, if you want Hollow Zero Counterpart

[rotund drum]

credits dont refresh either i think

[blissful tulip]

Idts no, only the waveplate spending

Unfortunate issue is that it takes significantly longer than 2 120 tacet runs

[neat robin]

2 more weeks~

[lucid pebble]

Gameplay in my gacha game?!

[neat robin]

Oh look more bots

[quasi sable]

What's the ratio for Carlotta and Cammy

Crit ratio

[neat robin]

70/300 lotta
75/270 camy
ish
With sigs

[quasi sable]

I see
Then my carlo still shit then

She has 69/260 rn

[neat robin]

I’m 63/300 cuz I’m missing one cr roll

[vapid river]

damn did i miss the steam giftcard?

[quasi sable]

Too late
I already got it

Now I can buy dlcs

[vapid river]

[quasi sable]

[harsh coral]

How does Phoebe's S3 work? Is it MV? Additive dmg%? A separate multiplier?

[knotty fiber]

Multiplier

From S1 to S3 are all multiplier

[harsh coral]

So her S3 is a straight 1.91x boost to her CA in absolution mode?

Or do you mean it adds to her generic damage multiplier with things like spectro%?

[knotty fiber]

Not MV

Not dmg bonus either

It's a separate dmg multiplier

[harsh coral]

Oh, wow. That's pretty big then

[knotty fiber]

It's normal

Not big

Because heavy attack is not her only dmg source

[neat robin]

Oh rip what is my camy build

Maybe I should put dreamless back on shes missing so many cdmg subs

[harsh coral]

It's still like 40% of her damage no? Maybe I'm just used to Genshin cons but it seems pretty good to me

[knotty fiber]

It is around that

It's good

But not big

[burnt shoal]

I hate this floor you get attacked non stop

how is everyone dealing dps when u get attacked nearly all the time

[edgy cobalt]

I just beat it with solo encore

I lied it was with her and sanhua but no 3rd slot

[burnt shoal]

do u guys memorize when to dodge

there's like 4 monsters non stop attacking you

[edgy cobalt]

I don't memorize I just look if the enemy is about to attack or not

[burnt shoal]

too many enemies attacking rip

at least the time allowance was big

[neat robin]

Is that the knights

I brought jiyan
Camy was ass there having to dodge so much

[rough brook]

just did my yearly log in pull and got myself Phoebe!

I want to invest in her a bit, what’s her playstyle?

[delicate lance]

the playstyle is blinding yourself with spectro vfx and not seeing what you're supposed to dodge while enemies casually walk out of your circle and oh shit i'm doing no damage because there's no frazzle on that enemy i'm so tired of reapplying frazzle.
unless you're doing middle of toa, then she's really fun.

[rough brook]

oh

[delicate lance]

tbh phoebe herself is fine, but she needs frazzle on enemies to do damage, only spectro rover can do that for her atm, and it's a pain to have srover apply frazzle to more than one target

[rough brook]

frazzle?

[knotty fiber]

spectro dot

[rotund drum]

feeb's frazzlespam would feel a lot better if she could swap between frazzlespam and nuke modes without a cooldown

or if frazzle did actual damage

it does literally like 100 damage per stack lmao

[vapid river]

why my jiyan just floating tho

ascending

[hollow gorge]

He feels elevated, now that he is finally needed

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/phoebe-wuthering-waves-phoebe-wuwa-wuwa-wuthering-gif-17427240854026907269

[knotty fiber]

@cobalt apex how many pulls have you recovered

[cobalt apex]

u mean how many pulls i have rn?

[knotty fiber]

Yes

[cobalt apex]

a grand total of

5

[knotty fiber]

[cobalt apex]

im winning this trust

i just need skeeper

and skip til cartethyia real

[knotty fiber]

What about cantarella

[cobalt apex]

i like cartethyia more icl

but lets see

[cobalt apex]

maybe if she doesnt take cartethyia from me

[knotty fiber]

I love Thy

I might have to pull Ciaccona if she's Thy's to-be support

[cobalt apex]

same

but like

i have negative pulls rn

imagine if im getting 0-5

[knotty fiber]

I just hope I won't have to pay as much as I had to with Tsubaki

[cobalt apex]

its fine i still have mr.firmament and black shores + new content

i can surely get them all

[knotty fiber]

I still have 600 corals left

[cobalt apex]

actually do we know whos in 2.3 and 2.4

[knotty fiber]

No

Just from leeks

2.2 Cantarella
2.3 Zani Ciaccona
2.4 Cartethyia

[cobalt apex]

wasnt there a sus one about cartethyia being in 2.6

[knotty fiber]

Yes

But I don't buy it

Unless step says otherwise

[cobalt apex]

alr

each version should get me enough for 1 char

(god please be more than 1)

[knotty fiber]

100 free pulls each patch

120 for me since I buy MP and BP

120+*

[cobalt apex]

isnt monthly alone +25?

[knotty fiber]

monthly is less than 20

It gives 2700+300

Ah yeah

If we count the duration of the patch

Then it's 24 pulls

[cobalt apex]

125 a patch

good enough

should be able to get 2 chars and Thy

[rotund drum]

there's cantarella and zani too

and whatever OCs they decide to pull out of their ass

here's tall yaoyao she's ??? and you dont care anyway because shes a field dps 4*

tbf i dont think zhezhi has any relevance to the plot either

[opaque flume]

Wdym she’s a cute painter

Very relevant

[rotund drum]

shes just some nerd

[opaque flume]

Also like half of the Genshin cast is irrelevant to the plot ngl idk ig its gacha game brainrot

[rotund drum]

at least 💤 and star fail are doing alts now

instead of just dump 3 new chars every patch

[opaque flume]

I mean that’s kinda lame

[rotund drum]

i'd rather have a char i actually care about in a sexy santa outfit

than some char i dont care about in whatever generic overdone chinese costume

"here's a new char hopefully you dont like her that much since she's only gonna actually be in the game for one event and then she'll be crept and you'll never use her again"

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-doro-doro-changli-wuwa-wuthering-gif-17898584821351024874

[neat robin]

189 pulls
Is it brant time already

[blissful tulip]

In 16 days

I want him as well, so long

[rotund drum]

midant

it was already confirmed that feeb is op support for frazzlespammers so might as well just save your pulls

[neat robin]

No

I’m not pulling phoebe

Whats the stagnation thing in brants s1

[rotund drum]

isnt that just what they call the time freeze

iirc feeb has it too

yeah she does

its just freeze

[neat robin]

Oh time stop ok

[rotund drum]

they probably meant to write stasis but it got mistranslated

[knotty fiber]

@wind flint

[wind flint]

aight

[knotty fiber]

.

[knotty fiber]

o7

[wind flint]

crit moment

[knotty fiber]

it's always za min roll

[vapid river]

you love to see it but you also hate it at the same time

[burnt shoal]

woa blessing of light

[hollow citrus]

So where exactly is it? Is it some kind of secret chest?

[lyric fjord]

Yes

Not shown on the lootmapper

Use changli to climb, from the glass pannels

[hollow citrus]

Don't have her

[hollow citrus]

I didn't even use it anyway after getting 100% in the area.

[outer jetty]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1243959275869704314/1341987837301751889/VID_20250220_110408_395.gif?ex=67b7ff11&is=67b6ad91&hm=06b6c83c719852484f74ba7d8e064693f8e784803d8a8bb3168911ce3e5f6fde&

Jelly fish

[neat robin]

[lament oasis]

If I only played the first week of launch, do you guys think theres enough pulls for me to get 3 units in one patch

[burnt shoal]

u only need 3 pulls

/s

[dapper oar]

yeah if you're aventurine

do you think they'll make anyone free like Yao in 1.x patch?

[burnt shoal]

anniversary maybe

[dapper oar]

but yao wasnt for anniv

[burnt shoal]

cause it hasn't been a year yet

[dapper oar]

i guess

but that means it'll be like.. 3.x because theyre making big patch every 6 months iirc

[quasi sable]

Is there a way to reincarnate into a Cantarella's jellyfish?

[rotund drum]

hopefully cantarella saves havoc after frazzlegate

[lucid pebble]

Zani kit where?

[quasi sable]

I don't think Zani will be 2.2 based on story companion from leak

It's only Canta

[lucid pebble]

[neat robin]

Its (stc) cantarella phrolova 2.2
Zani ciaconna 2.3

[knotty fiber]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664700831198871605/1342192295155339377/m2-res_720p.mp4?ex=67b8bd7b&is=67b76bfb&hm=686ea73ecb209487df908be0d6ed0e7a4d309d6ccb89cd26d4a3e5cac68141df&

[neat robin]

🪼

[knotty fiber]

Notice her tongue

[neon falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/twitter-reicartier-reaction-bloodcartier-gif-22306737

[knotty fiber]

@cobalt apex

[dusty crown]

uh

2.X fanservice character eh

[knotty fiber]

Been since 1.3

[dusty crown]

i mean

there's fan service

and there's fan service

this is the latter

[knotty fiber]

Is this any more fanservicd than Shoekeeper's exposed chest and Tsubaki's boob zoom?

Idts

Great

This server is censoring literally everything

💀

[dusty crown]

yes

[knotty fiber]

Sure

[edgy cobalt]

taoqi size

[rotund drum]

its funny that we have animation leaks but not kit

no one actually cares about the gameplay

they just want the booba

[neon falcon]

it came out an hour ago

chill

https://tenor.com/view/ok-i-pull-up-capybara-gif-26104720

[rotund drum]

you know its true though

the kit is gonna be a short novel to say not much of anything anyway

i'd rather just have the booba

it'll be like 1000 words just to say "press E to nuke then press E again to nuke again" or some shit

[lyric fjord]

i'll take wuwa kits over genshin kits any day of the week

being able to actually use the animations of the character you pulled without it being a gigantic waste is so nice

[neat robin]

Camy also did the tongue thing in her trailer
Crazy havoc ladies ig

Also who cares you arent watching her pull anim while you’re fighting

I’m just glad finally get my pastel lady

[dusty crown]

not talking about just the tongue

[neat robin]

Ah 5050 it was the boobs

[knotty fiber]

You won't get it

And neither will I

[storm needle]

I returned and got spooked early but it was off banner (5 for six 50/50s faled). I think it was a sign to wait and not get feeebe so they could drip jellyfish lady personally into my brain

[rotund drum]

people will be coping for feeb when we get the frazzlespam dps

atm her biggest issue is that she has to cope with srover and srover's app is too infrequent and damage is nonexistent

classic 2.0 dendro coping with dtrav/collei

[storm needle]

what do you mean by coping for her?

like regret not pulling?

[rotund drum]

yes

[storm needle]

yeah thats why i wanted to go for her but 50/50s are fake

[rotund drum]

we either get a frazzlespammer or another frazzle nuker and feeb will be useful for both

two feebs would be ideal tbh

[storm needle]

and i dont do most of the repeatable gems content so have fewe pulls

[rotund drum]

shes also core for any zone where you cant fly since her airdash goes really far

making us whale for open world QOL

the alternative would have been for kusogames to just make it so frazzle deals actual damage but obv things making sense isnt a priority when there's money to be made

[neat robin]

Got this stupid rock while my brant prebuild is suffering so much

[harsh coral]

Is there a Wuwu equivilent to Genshin Optimiser?

[winged belfry]

There is not, but since there are fewer moving parts, or more specifically slots, it's not as required

[harsh coral]

That's a pity. With how much high and low rolls vary, I keep wanting to know if it's better to have a piece with higher rolls on crit or worse rolls but other useful subs

[winged belfry]

Well, because of how crit works, and because it's sources are pretty scarce, Crit sub is like 3 times are valuable as any other sub

So first order of bussiness is always double crit

Once you have double crit, there is some disucision over pieces with double high crit rolls, but no other usefull stats, or double crit with low crit rolls, but 3 other useful subs

This is average gain per sub

[dapper oar]

i pulled for her cuz she was very cute in the quests

her being meta is a bonus

[lilac hare]

Cantarella kit

[lyric fjord]

Holy sht zani is peak

[knotty fiber]

free 5* weapon

ER% main

[lyric fjord]

Damn

[knotty fiber]

increases self's resonance skill dmg and reduces enemies' aero res

[lyric fjord]

Freaking love the 2.0

[neat robin]

Interesting more time to save up ig after canta

[knotty fiber]

Cantarella is yet another Jinhsi teammate

lol

[cobalt apex]

[knotty fiber]

and you might very well pair her with Zhezhi too

push Hsi to her limit

[quasi sable]

So basically 2nd half will be rerun

[knotty fiber]

Black Shore rerun

[quasi sable]

Man wtf

I want sk first

[knotty fiber]

doomed

[quasi sable]

I'm so cooked

I already have guaranteed

But that won't save for another unit

[cobalt apex]

nah ill just get skeeper and skip to carte

[winged belfry]

If she heals and deals coordinated attacks, you would rather put her with sub DPS into Jinhsi teams

[knotty fiber]

no heal

me think

didn't see any healing

[winged belfry]

She does in forte state

[knotty fiber]

oh

she has it

[winged belfry]

So I'd imagine premium Jinhsi team will look like this: Jinhsi, sub DPS Phoebe, Cantarella

[knotty fiber]

there's a reason why I bring both

normally you're forced to go the same rotation being 1-2-3

bringing this allows her forte to charge up faster and screw 1-2-3, just go for more skills instead

basically what I do for changhsi

[winged belfry]

Well, if Cantarella has Yinlin style coordinated attack that attacks once per second, then she alone will be able to fully fill Jinhsi Forte

No need for second coordinated

[knotty fiber]

you don't get it here

and I'm lazy to elaborate

[neat robin]

Does canta have buffs

Thats the question

Verina/sk have their atk/crit buffs

[knotty fiber]

[quasi sable]

@neat robin

[neat robin]

Kinda ew so only skill outro & faster concerto

[knotty fiber]

I will probably borrow my friend's account and see if I can cook dual coord

[neat robin]

Might keep canta verina (one moonlit one rejuv)

[quasi sable]

What stats sk needs in echoes

[neat robin]

Er (230+ on paper with fallacy rejuv) hp cdmg lib%

[quasi sable]

Those are subs right

Mainstats?

[neat robin]

Yeah same as mains tho
1-2 er mains
Hp/cdmg on 4cost

[winged belfry]

Main stat ER

[neat robin]

1 er main does require a lv90 variation and all 5 er subs tho (its not fun farming, I did it)

[quasi sable]

If you're using 1 er

What mainstat for 3 cost

[neat robin]

I have 1 er 1 hp

But I’m not joking you need all 5 er subs and not min rolls either

I’m at 232 er
Barely enough with fallacy and ult er buffs

[quasi sable]

Got

Her sig isn't needed right

[neat robin]

Hp fallacy
2 er mains
3+ er subs with hp cdmg lib subs is way easier

[neat robin]

If you have variation. Really likes the concerto passive on either

[dapper oar]

finally a jinhsi support??

[knotty fiber]

wym finally

she alr got zhezhi

lol

this is just yet another one

[quasi sable]

Ye

[marble charm]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gX_UJRC03Cai-zAxPDnnfRMgWFNmb60UrKbiJY5AzoA/edit?usp=sharing

[dapper oar]

oh yeah she's definitely her bis since jinhsi's glacio obviously

though im more talking about the healer role

since both sk and child are spectro and doesnt have coord

[winged belfry]

Verina has coordinated

[dapper oar]

oh right

[marble charm]

cantarella isn't really that good for jinhsi

unless you do a single eskill jinhsi rotation

rather than the double eskill rotation you can do with zhezhi

since cantarella's liberation effectively only has around 7 to 8 second duration

[winged belfry]

Elaborate

Nothing said that each jellyfish only last for a single attack

[marble charm]

the liberation effect ends after summoning 21 jelly dreamweavers, and you summon 3 of them once every second

[winged belfry]

But yes, it technically could be a problem if she behaves exactly like Zhezhi and her Cranes

[dapper oar]

i mean zhezhi is enough for her to get full stacks right

im more concerned about her having those skill dmg ampli and how wuwa works, doesnt that mean shed only buff zhezhi's skill dmg? or would she buff all her teammates instead

[lyric fjord]

Well damn, need to refarm phoebe's 4 cost all over again

[winged belfry]

Issue is that Zhezhi is married to Carlotta

[neat robin]

It doesnt matter as long as a skill outro goes before hsi
Can do veri > canta > hsi rot even if zz is with lotta

[dapper oar]

yeah so in a day where you need both jinhsi and carlotta for ToA or whatever, whos gonna be the sub dps?

[dapper oar]

oh so like brant? making dual healer team

[vapid river]

You just get s6 lotta so it doesn't matter who it is

But fr you can just use a different res skill buffer in that instance

I can't remember them off the top of my head but they do exist

[lament shuttle]

Oh wow lots of leaks today

[dusty crown]

Sequences will fix that, watch this

Oh they're already out

[marble charm]

The only sequence which affects it is her s5

Which gives her 5 more jellyfish

[winged belfry]

Yeah, we'll need to see how long do Jellies last

Whenever they are one attack per jellie, and then they are gonna

[knotty fiber]

one per jelly

no idea how they're gonna last

but the total dmg is predetermined

[winged belfry]

If so, then Cantarella as Jinhsi support is fully dead

You would need Coordinated attacks spread across like 15s at least

[rotund drum]

if its like zhezhi is probably 1 jellyfish per second

it just means you dont actually have to attack every second to trigger it

esp with carlottagate

midhsi has no good supports anymore

[dusty crown]

Seems she's skippable which I guess is a good thing

[knotty fiber]

oh boy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1097234024537264179/1342505838614417528/Arover.mp4?ex=67b9e17e&is=67b88ffe&hm=95a52707109db8dbbb7d279fe69522f528378729263c6f773888000005d39260&

[dusty crown]

Damn she be maxing iansan

[cobalt apex]

[winged belfry]

I know you have a brainrot, but could you finally explain WTF is a Carlottagate

[rotund drum]

carlotta stealing zhezhi

[lyric fjord]

Zhezhi has free will and chose the superior maiden.

[blissful tulip]

She's cool

Rover is the embodiment of simplicity being best

[neat robin]

I mean I have s3 lotta
My plan is giving zz back to jinhsi either way
Brant or canta can skill outro for lotta

But ideally canta is more than just,, weak coords with some heal

Do we have her 2 passives yet?

[lyric fjord]

Healing Bonus is increased by 20%.
29
Passive 2 Increase Havoc DMG by 6% for 10 seconds when casting Echo Skill, stacking up to 2 times.

@neat robin see pinned msg google docs

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/cantarella-wuthering-waves-wuthering-waves-cantarella-wuwa-gif-5100358884056464948

[knotty fiber]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1316155486034198606/1342527463619690537/abcd.mp4?ex=67b9f5a2&is=67b8a422&hm=7c5138c1e92224a8040416275cb57b354b0c12377049bed8f6e967691b65871e&

Lamia moment

[robust axle]

I lost

[vapid river]

rover was the mort replacement all along

[knotty fiber]

Not

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

There's no amp

They are meant for Thy

Expect her to be an Aerosion utilizer

[vapid river]

destined to deal with this red headed step child

[dapper oar]

wait brant's in game icon is so hot

[blissful tulip]

She really is Lamia, all I hope for Cantarella is a smooth dodge

[lyric fjord]

Without phoebe, aerover cant apply any erosion?

[limber imp]

Ngl might be future cartethyia weapon

She’s a sword user

And an aero unit

[knotty fiber]

It's ARover

Cuz ARover WILL be her healer

[knotty fiber]

Looks like it
Either Fibi or Ciaccona

I'm guessing Ciaccona will be a sdps for Thy

[neat robin]

Aero erosion isnt the same as spec frazzle either
I may have missed something but I dont think phoeb was helping anyways

[knotty fiber]

ARover has conversion

Turn any DoT into aerosion

[neat robin]

Ah I did miss that part

[storm needle]

Does jellyfish lady dmg seem okay in that video or underwhelming in a game where healing isn't as good as dodging?

[knotty fiber]

But you're kinda bricking her kit with that

Since her kit has the

Frazzle amp and spectro res shred

[neat robin]

I’m more concerned that canta is kinda just useless

Like unless the jellyfish are doing decent dmg
Veri and sk have buffs on top of heal/coord

[storm needle]

Yeah

So does she do a ton of personal dmg to coungeract that? Or can't tell

[neat robin]

Cant tell yet

Wait hold up is cantas rectifier a jellyfish

[knotty fiber]

Looks like it

[neat robin]

This lil one

[knotty fiber]

Yes

[neat robin]

Thats cute

[storm needle]

Also have we seen slow effect before? I been gone for all renacity

[neat robin]

Phoebe has it in her skill

And srover ult & outro

[lucid pebble]

Those are actual time stops.

Carlotta E and forte also does it.

[opaque flume]

Wind blade!

[neat robin]

I dont think carlotta is a stop

I mean ig it is but its freeze cc

[knotty fiber]

what stop

[neat robin]

Srover ult

Time stop

Carlotta skill can freeze enemy

[knotty fiber]

I mean

the time stop doesn't mean much

because almost every character can do it too iirc

it stops the timer and everything around

[neat robin]

Each of xy enhanced skills during ult slow time (enemy yes, timer tho idk)

[knotty fiber]

even Yao's and Hsi's skills can time stop

[neat robin]

I dont think xy is a stop outside of ult animation like anybody else

His 3 enhanced just slow

[lyric fjord]

The difference between slow and stop is that for slow you can proc dodge counters still. Idk if enemy attacks can still dmg us tho

[rotund drum]

stopping the timer for an animation is different from a freeze obv

if the time slow in 💤 is anything to go by though cantarella's slow will be really annoying in practice

cause it'll just fuck with dodge timings

[neat robin]

Well ik you can quickswap off xy while he’s doing his slow skill

Next char stays normal movement

[neat robin]

Ciaconna model

[lucid pebble]

Horn.

[harsh coral]

She also seems to have a buff on her outro. 20% havoc and 25% skill for 14s which is removed on swap. Problem is that, if you use her as a healer you can't also run another outro buffer and since she heals she likely won't be as big a DPS increase as a good outro buffer. This is ignoring the fact that we don't have anyone who can properly use both halves of her buff yet outside of kinda H Rover.

Coords plus skill damage means that she could be functional for Jinshi I guess? Probably worse than Zhenshi though

[knotty fiber]

She's not meant for any of the existing unit that's it

[harsh coral]

I was hoping that she could be a replacement for SKeper, especially for Camy

[harsh coral]

This is almost certainly the case just looking at her outro, but so was Zhezhi arguably but she still worked really well with current units

[knotty fiber]

You can't say Cantarella doesn't work with klt

[rotund drum]

shes literally just low budget kokomi clone with zhezhi kit that heals

guess ill simp for feeb

[harsh coral]

I mean, Zhenzhi that heals is not a horrible thing in a vacuum. Problem is that you need someone to replace the healer slot with more damage which I don't think we have.

Unless I'm missing someone? All the buffers that I've really looked at are either healers or only buff the next character

I may well have missed someone though

[rotund drum]

its fine for jinhsi comp but do you really want to pull a healer for a 1.1 dps

my JH is pretty invested but i still dont care enough to use her over feeb

except for when i needed her for whiwa

since feeb sucks for waves

feeb and carlotta

honestly they might as well have called her charlotta since they're not fooling anyone

[harsh coral]

Actually, what is her AoE like compared to Zhenshi? IIRC Zhenshi is pretty ST focused

[rotund drum]

zhezhi's skill spam does hit the mobs when they first spawn in whiwa at least

although her CA is ST i think

[quasi sable]

How good is Canta atm

I heard she'll be Phrolova partner

But what about with current units atm

[neat robin]

Coord option & skill outro for jinhsi
Need to see how much forte canta lib will give her though, depends on the jellyfish

[opaque flume]

Is cantrella op

[lyric fjord]

every second when hitting stuff, her coord pops 3 Jelly, once per second max

I'm wondering if the limit of 21 is 21 jellies (7 seconds of 3 jellies per second) or 21 pops of 3 jellies.
If it's the latter, then she has much more dmg than zhezhi with coords

[opaque flume]

It’s 21 jellies I believe and it’s 1 jelly every second for 3 seconds so 21 seconds

Not sure tho

I could be wrong vro

[lyric fjord]

Diffusion
When the Resonator on the field deals damage to the target, summon Jelly Dreamweavers to perform Coordinated Attack, dealing Havoc DMG (considered as Basic Attack DMG).

• Each time dealing damage summons 3 Jelly {Cus:Sap,S=Dreamweaver P=Dreamweavers SapTag=0}. Jelly Dreamweavers can appear up to once per second.
• This effect lasts for 30s or until the maximum number of Jelly Dreamweavers has been reached.

[opaque flume]

That was my understanding tho

[neat robin]

Summons 3 jelly per second if constantly doing dmg
But how quick do the jellies hit enemy after summoned

[winged belfry]

Yeah, we don't know

[neat robin]

Its the question

Cuz 7s of coord is shit

[winged belfry]

Yeah, that is my concern as well

While it's possible it would be an upgrade over Verina + Yuanwu combo I'm using now, I don't think I'd like it enough to pull for her

[neat robin]

I’m absolutely loving her theme
But looking kinda useless

[winged belfry]

Her Weapon is out of the question entirely

[neat robin]

I dont know what her sig even does

The strength the other healers have is buffs
Verina coord + atk + dmg
Sk cr + cdmg (+ dodge recovery if you care about that) & long lasting heals consistent rejuv buff

[winged belfry]

It's a bit strange

[neat robin]

Wiat

That carries to next resonator right?
The effect not the stacks

Or no its like. Crownless dps build

[winged belfry]

What I suspect is that stack 1 and 2 are for wearer only, while stack 3 carries over to next unit

[neat robin]

The shred yeah
If shes phrolovas support, who’s a havoc

[winged belfry]

it is super specific mini outro in fact

[neat robin]

It almost seems actually

Her jellies scale on basic% ?

Looks like 3 stacks would let the jellies ignore res til swapping back to her

[winged belfry]

yes

[neat robin]

Its just strange theres only a couple echos you can get 3 uses out of within 10s

Looks like it’d lean into a havoc set build

[winged belfry]

hmmm

Crownless

[neat robin]

Old havoc set, with new crownless to cast it multiple times

Dont think new havoc set with heron can work there

[winged belfry]

Nightmare Crownless has 3 charges and is on Havoc set

[neat robin]

Basic+havoc passive too

[winged belfry]

Yeah, target found

[neat robin]

Camy + canta out here sharing a set lol

[winged belfry]

OK, I get the buff on the sig now

it's not for next resonator

it's for her only

[neat robin]

Its for her jellies while shes off field

[winged belfry]

yeah

[neat robin]

Its like. Anti-quickswap

I’m still stuck on the possible 7s of jellies

[winged belfry]

Highly unlikely then

Crownless has 12s CD

[neat robin]

I wonder if it summons up to 3, then uses them 1 at a time
And just refills up to 3 per second of onfielder dealing dmg

[winged belfry]

So you wouldn't swap to her for like 36s

or maybe they'll make new echo for Her

[neat robin]

No

[winged belfry]

like they made the captain for Phoebe

[neat robin]

Oh hm

Ive seen leaks it looks like a thyia boss not canta

The tacet field is roccia havoc + new aero set

[winged belfry]

Yeah, I highly suspect they'll make new echo for her

Like they made this for Phoebe

although

hmmm

Phoebe might stay on Aix

[neat robin]

Theres uh

[winged belfry]

while this might be for ani

[neat robin]

A new tower mode

[winged belfry]

you mean babel?

[neat robin]

I just saw a list of debuffs

[winged belfry]

yeah, it's choose your own debuffs type of thing

more debuffs, high the score

[neat robin]

The sword echo tho

Looks like a nightmare lampy too

[cobalt apex]

she became 2 times taller

🔥

this is so funny lmao

[rotund drum]

iirc the wording is the same as zhezhi's so it probably works exactly the same

i wouldnt be surprised if the animation was the same except with jellyfish instead of birbs too

[winged belfry]

I expect it to work similar to Zhezhi as well.

Let's explain it this way:

Zhezhi 1 Crane and 1 trigger for this 1 Crane. So you need to be hitting at least once per second to get it, because it has ICD of 1s and group of 1.

For Cantarella I suspect it'll work like this:

You have 3 jellies in a single group. You attack enemies, and by doing that, you activate a group. Then jellies in a group attack one by one, with 1s intervals, without a need for any new trigger. It happens until all jellies are spent, and then 3s from the start, when 3s ICD has run out, next attack might activate another group of jellies.

At least that's how I see it working.

@neat robin What do you think?

[neat robin]

I’m certainly hoping

Thats 21s (max of 30s in cases of dodging etc where no dmg is dealt) of coords

[rotund drum]

zhezhi is also 3 cranes per trigger

wording is a bit different but that's probably just cause china

[neat robin]

Its terrible wording

Someone would prob have to compare cn and see what the original skills says

[vapid river]

she's like 2.5 carlottas

[vapid river]

where does it say zz is 3 cranes per trigger?

is 1 3 now?

[rotund drum]

first bullet point

[vapid river]

ik it says "for 3s after dealing damage" but it's not triggering 3x in those 3s

it's only triggering once

[rotund drum]

its 1 per second for 3 seconds

[vapid river]

yeah but it's still 1 per second

[rotund drum]

iirc it can actually trigger anytime and you get 3 cranes from the last trigger

[vapid river]

jelly is 3x per 1 second

[rotund drum]

it just means you dont have to actually hit the mob once every second

[vapid river]

just once every 3 seconds

but it's not triggering 3 of them

in 1 second

it's over 3 seconds

1:1

not 3:1

havoc jelly fish summons 3 every 1 second

not sure if that'll cause issues if used with jinhsi or not

idk how often she can benefit from havoc coord dmg

ik each attribute has it's own icd

but i have no clue what the timing is for them

idk she's a pass for me

[rotund drum]

they seem to fire a bit faster than zhezhi's

might be able to get two procs

[vapid river]

it's literally 3 per 1 second

it says it in the skill thing

[rotund drum]

they dont hit simultaneously

[vapid river]

though who knows if it'll actually work that way

[rotund drum]

there's footage of it

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1iuuiis/ww_22_more_cantarella_gameplay_via_naruse/

[vapid river]

but do they all hit within a second

[rotund drum]

idk you can time it

[neat robin]

We dont care as much about the summoning part
Need to know hit interval

[vapid river]

^

idc what it looks like graphically

[rotund drum]

its definitely not two seconds but the third one might be more than 1s of the first one

[vapid river]

i care what it does in the game

though i don't really care

probably skip her and phrolova

and brant

and camy rerun

[rotund drum]

i think it'll likely just be whateve rit looks like

i doubt they'd animate them firing in sequence but then code them to hit simultaneously or some shit

[vapid river]

they don't even swap in the video

to show the coord hits

unless it's the 3 rapid fire hits that all happen within a second

[winged belfry]

I believe these are connected to her forte, not her ultimate

[vapid river]

yeah what is diffusion

is that her forte? ult? part of her outro?

is the tl so bad that it makes it sound like it's going to be a coord attack with her off field even though it can only be used when she's on field?

so it's part of her ult

okay diffusion is a buff

so then it is those 3 rapid fire jellies that come out and hit within a second of each other

[vapid river]

so back to this

if she were to be used with jinhsi

would it even be good if you're only getting what, 7 coord hits that go towards jinhsi's forte?

well it wouldn't really matter actually, i think jinhsi's limits it to 1 coord attack per 3 seconds giving her charges

incandescence

[quasi sable]

What does arover do

[winged belfry]

Diffusion is a bit strange part

There is one unit with diffusion as buff/debuff already

But it behaves differently

And that unit is Carlotta

And honestly it makes a certain theory about Carlotta more relevant

[vapid river]

do you mean deconstruction?

or dispersion?

[rotund drum]

its 1 per second iirc

[vapid river]

there's this

and there's this

but there's no diffusion in lotta kit

doesn't show up on hakushin either

[rotund drum]

yeah its all just d___sion

[vapid river]

true

dsion

[winged belfry]

Hmmm

Maybe all of these terms share single sign in Chinese

[vapid river]

or they just all do different things b/c they're all different

disperion immobilizes

deconstruction ignores def

diffusion causes jelly attacks

just like how they have so many C names they have lots of D names for abilities and stuff

[knotty fiber]

Unthinkable

Idk why they translate it this way

But Dispersion = 变彩

Deconstruction = 解離 (dissociation)

Diffusion from Cantarella's kit = 弥漫

even the English meanings are different

[quasi sable]

Should I use guarantee on Phoebe

Or pull her on rerun

[limber imp]

Is this kuros adult female model or a monster model?

DESIGN IS SO PEAK PLS BE PLAYABLE

[cobalt apex]

shes huge

[robust axle]

Her growth hormone levels are off the charts

[neon falcon]

jesus christ

[knotty fiber]

According to the dataminer, that's a 5th female playable model

The existing 4 are S, MS, M, XL and this one is straight up Z

It'll also be ||a weekly boss||

[cobalt apex]

shes just huge

[knotty fiber]

When I saw them using Z I knew something was up

And I was right

I think her MS form will still be the base form though

[cobalt apex]

yea prob

[knotty fiber]

We will see

in 80 days

[cobalt apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/972420698654003210.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=diesofcringe

i cant wait that long

[knotty fiber]

80 days is just to see the leeks

She's further away

[cobalt apex]

its so over

[knotty fiber]

Looks like 2.2 is a skip for me

Or I can try a 50-50 at best

[cobalt apex]

ill just pull skeeper

[knotty fiber]

Do you have rococo

[cobalt apex]

:Clueless:

[knotty fiber]

Actually regardless

You should pull Tsubaki

She can use EoG

[cobalt apex]

then skeeper is cooked

[knotty fiber]

Pull both

[cobalt apex]

no shit

[knotty fiber]

[cobalt apex]

[knotty fiber]

Surely you'll win

[cobalt apex]

good one

[knotty fiber]

Fuck it we ball

[cobalt apex]

rn im just expecting 1 char per patch

[cobalt apex]

ciaccona will be cartethyia sup trust

[knotty fiber]

Very likely lol

[cobalt apex]

which is all the more reason why i cant spend more

[knotty fiber]

The sword echo is named ||Fleurdelys|| and it's Aero

[knotty fiber]

X2 reset on anni

So I can spend more

More funds for Thy

[cobalt apex]

im not topping up 😔

[lyric fjord]

Dual elements exist in pgr? Idk why people expect carthe to be dual element

[knotty fiber]

cuz some leekers said so

but I don't have hope

PGR doesn't have dual element

but new units and some old revamped unit have "affixes"

affix means an alternative type of the original element

fire -> combustion
lightning -> ion
ice -> glaciation
dark -> umbra surge
physical -> true slash

[lyric fjord]

Aero rover converting dots does push the idea of the char he is supporting to have multiple elements, but it would be a hassle for the game devs

[knotty fiber]

a unit's affix doesn't have to align with their original element

for example phys unit can have glaciation affix

so you can kind of consider that dual element

[lyric fjord]

Oh

[knotty fiber]

though it's not used in the same fight in our case

[lyric fjord]

[knotty fiber]

cuz we pick the element based on what buff/debuff the stage has

and also comp

[cobalt apex]

what are u looking forward to with carte's 2 forms?