・wuwa-lounge

[vapid river]

weird

[wind flint]

Can't manually remove the message from the channel that does not have a mod rn

[odd stirrup]

Got it

[lament shuttle]

slow ass server

[knotty fiber]

thanks

[lament shuttle]

i clicked delete like 3x

[cobalt apex]

[wind flint]

[wind flint]

there's more in other tc chats

have fun

[knotty fiber]

let's not mention the amount of times the server went offline we couldn't get in for a while

[cobalt apex]

like every tc chat has one

[knotty fiber]

LMAOOOOOOOO

not like this

[cobalt apex]

[knotty fiber]

@lament shuttle

[cobalt apex]

this is so funny lmfao

[knotty fiber]

#911794575599874089 too

[wind flint]

I had to delete every single one from the server that isn't in tc

[opaque flume]

What happened

[wind flint]

bot scam links around the server

[opaque flume]

Was it the stake one

[wind flint]

Yeah.

If I see another one today, I'm going to crash out

[tired zodiac]

I don't think pulling on a dps cons unless they're my favourite char or it's a game-changer.

[tired zodiac]

What was it? Steam link?

[wind flint]

stake stuff

[dapper oar]

bro they really should add more 3c for eternal cuz i farmed for 20 minutes and got like 2 out of everything from these enemies

i already have a good spectro on the twin dancer but those two on the left are so scarce and annoying

[burnt shoal]

does dot dps scale on crit

in wuwa

how do i build spectro mc

[lament shuttle]

Frazzle set or maybe rejuv set TBD

[dapper oar]

what are brant's buffs?

[neat robin]

He buffs his own atk based on his er

Team stuff? Heal, shield and skill/fusion outro

[dapper oar]

skill dmg bonus and fusion dmg bonus?

so..

he could kinda be used for Jinhsi?

just by the fact that he's not spectro and can buff skill

idk how much of that would matter against SK tho so

[neat robin]

Zz sk would be better

He doesnt do coord hits for jinhsi

Unless your coping yuanwu & brant instead of taoqi?

[dapper oar]

no i have zz sk

i just wanna know if he could be used outside of changli

[lament shuttle]

Sure he can but it really depends if you have sig or not

[dapper oar]

im getting sig definitely

[lament shuttle]

If he’s usable as a standalone dps or in QS not relying on intro outro for rotations

[lyric fjord]

Hi. Dot dmg only scales on elemental resistances, your level and enemy level so your build can't make it scale no matter what.
However unless it gets buffed in the future, spectro frazzle's dmg is so low that it doesnt matter in your build
Do crit spectro spectro atk atk echoes with either the new spectro set or rejuvenating glow

[neat robin]

You can also run moonlit srover if you have a rejuv healer in team

[lament shuttle]

Does she build concerto fast?

[neat robin]

Seemed decent

If you dont plan on outroing you can also swap and go rejuv srover, moonlit verina

Def rejuv sk, moonlit srover tho

[burnt shoal]

ok thanks i just build crit

[vapid river]

they really need to rename this

[neat robin]

I thought it was whispering wastes at the start
Or when leaked. cant remember

[hollow gorge]

No, it was always Whining Whales

[quasi sable]

We're getting WhiWa in Wuwa fr

[tired zodiac]

whimpering and moaning waves

[tired zodiac]

Not sure if his damage is good enough to be a solo dps but rn he's good with fusion characters as a support. If you don't have changli it's better to skip for now ig? Unless you really like him. His shield is around 9k and heals around 7k-8k at 250er.

[dapper oar]

no i just like him but i do have changli at rc1 with sig

[tired zodiac]

Great

He works well with changli

[rotund drum]

he's probably fine since CL does basically nothing for like 20s after using her burst

[neat robin]

Wait for once

You may have something

Zz jinhsi
Brant lotta quickswap

Just brant outro before you use lottas nuke

[rotund drum]

i wish the "only buff one char until swap" outro gimmick would go away though

its basically a 2 player game with a healer at this point

[neat robin]

More sdps/qs with outro deepen like verina has yeah

[rotund drum]

brant doesnt do much by filling healer slot since you usually want that slot for the amp anyway

[neat robin]

It just alters it
Youd have brant outro into mdps instead of sdps into mdps

[rotund drum]

well the only option atm is changli

[neat robin]

Changli isnt the only one who can quickswap

[rotund drum]

iirc he buffs skill damage so jinhsi might be an option although stack gen will become a problem in that case

probably still better than midli though

esp since CLT usually takes ZZ now

[neat robin]

Youd prob require zz for off field stacks while hsi brant quickswap (and outro brant into hsi before nuke)

[rotund drum]

JH takes a lot of field time though so brant isnt gonna help in that respect

[neat robin]

Its funny cuz zz still feels better for hsi than carlotta

Its literally just zz has glacio+skill outro

[rotund drum]

idk brant just feels like the obligatory throwaway banner so people dont complain about banner overload

[neat robin]

Idc he actually looks fun to play

[rotund drum]

kit is all over the place, buffer with no good chars to buff, male

[neat robin]

He doesnt buff

[rotund drum]

he might actually sell less than xiangli yao

[neat robin]

Unless we’re calling a shield a buff

[rotund drum]

im calling an outro a buff

what else is there

roccia's atk buff lmao

boresleeper's crit buff lmao

[neat robin]

Sk ult? Verina passive?

[rotund drum]

what does verina passive do

[neat robin]

Atk buff

[rotund drum]

i had to look it up

that buff is so tiny i never even noticed she had it

anyway yeah you're literally scraping the bottom of the battle for peanuts with these buffs

[neat robin]

Wow its almost like they arent making crazy buffs like fucking bennet

[rotund drum]

compared to just getting a straight 45% multiplier on outro

buffs need to be crazy since they take a slot that could be something else

[neat robin]

Yet attack buffs are so rare, any of them help

Including s6 10% atk on 4*s

[rotund drum]

the buff has to at least add as much damage as the quickswap 4* who just presses E Q R and swaps out

[neat robin]

Yeah cuz brant has zero dmg

[rotund drum]

field time that does less than the mdps is literally negative damage

[neat robin]

I forgot you dont even play
Like quickswap teams dont use ‘buffers’ except maybe sk/verina

Whatever I’m not arguing with you idc

[edgy cobalt]

his outro counts to me

would've been good if it works w/ qs

or they creep changli and make a better skill fusion unit
would rather stick to stringcore

[neat robin]

Thats like calling zz a buffer

But even though shes sdps shes more of one than brant is, cuz she can use moon/empyrean set

[rotund drum]

thats the point

buffs in this game are so weak that an sdps with an amp outro is basically a buffer

[neat robin]

I feel like brants outro shouldnt have been til swap, if they wanted him as a quickswap

[edgy cobalt]

I would call zz a buffer yeah

[vapid river]

if we use prydwen's categories, dps, hybrid, and support, i'd consider everything that isn't dps a buffer atp

ignoring sequences i can't think of one dps that buffs the incoming resonator through their kit

outro, res skill, or ult

effectively all of these are buffers

even y^2(er buff goes crazy )

all except yuanwu and srover(arguable) buff the next resonator

idk if time stop really counts as a buff

[neat robin]

Srover has spectro shred and heals so

[vapid river]

i'd count the heal

but not the shred

that's a debuff

or does it give other resonators shred

[neat robin]

Supports your spectro dps by making them do more dmg

[vapid river]

yeah, but the word is "buff"

doing defense down isn't a buff

[neat robin]

Res shred

But yeah

[vapid river]

same concept

[neat robin]

Not directly a buff, but makes your mdps do more dmg

[vapid river]

it's a debuff

unless it's worded in a way that srover gives the next resonator an aura that allows them to ignore a certain % of spectro resistance

that'd be a buff

it's about who it's being applied to

for the sake of what i was saying and what it seemed like everyone else was talking about

"buffers"

[neat robin]

Does changli have a dmg% outro or a dps outro

[vapid river]

wdym by that?

is her outro like that of a mdps

or is it like zz?

cuz it's like zz

if that's what you're asking

i don't consider her mdps

even if she does a lot of dmg

and i feel like you know that

her outro buffs the incoming resonator

[neat robin]

She buffs next dmg, or she does she do dmg

[vapid river]

you know what she does

what's your point?

[neat robin]

Why would I?

I dont have her

[vapid river]

i don't either but ik she buffs incoming

my bad

like i said earlier

everyone on that list

[neat robin]

I dont like her, so idk kit past she does quickswap

[vapid river]

has an outro that buffs incoming resonator

except for yuanwu

and arguably srover

unless you think time stop counts as a buff for the next resonator

i don't

that's a status effect/debuff imo

not that it really matters

everyone is free to think however they want

how exactly does srover heal?

[neat robin]

On ult

[vapid river]

oh it's through sequence

[neat robin]

Yeah heal and shred is from sequence

[vapid river]

idk if i'd really count that then

going by my own criteria

[neat robin]

I find it kinda silly to classify some of these as buffers just because of outro, when the chars kit is for dps
Changli, danjin as example

[vapid river]

i do cuz fuck changli

her multipliers are too much

and that's why she does dmg

her ult mult is like 1200%

and her skill mult is also at the level of a dps

and her res skill totals to 866%

for reference yinlin ult is lower than changli res skill by over 50%

[edgy cobalt]

waiting for the limited char/weapon 1.x selector leak to be somehow true so I can brick my account and go s0r1 chungus

[vapid river]

who tf is chungus?

changli?

[opaque flume]

Isn’t changli a dps

[vapid river]

no

sdps

she buffs incoming resonator

why buff if mdps?

that's like the one thing all the "dps" in prydwen's category have in common

their outro doesn't buff anyone

and nothing in their kit buffs anyone else(ignoring sequences)

just off of base kit

[neat robin]

Buffs incoming resonator just to immediately quickswap off them and lose buff anyways

[vapid river]

while on field do they utilize those buffs to do more damage?

just b/c they're not on field for the entire duration doesn't mean the incoming resonator isn't benefitting from it

[tired zodiac]

yeah changli can be considered as a mdps whos has buffer ability. others are all sdps or purely supports

[vapid river]

nope

go read all of what i said

based off of the criteria i listed she's a buffer and not an mdps

you can't argue with that

you can believe she's a mdps and does mdps damage

but what i said, within the criteria i listed, she's not an mdps

unless she doesn't have an outro that doesn't buff incoming resonator

b/c that's what i was talking

i've already said she does mdps damage

[edgy cobalt]

when will chungus be good 😔

[vapid river]

but i gave a pretty clear list(really one thing) that defines someone as a buffer

you can't argue against that

it's objectively true

if outro buffs incoming resonator
buffer

[tired zodiac]

using her as a secondary dps works yeah. but her best team would be having her as mdps with brant and you use both their outro with each other

[vapid river]

klee

it's not about "works" or "doesn't works"

it's about categorizing all of them

as either a buffer or not

in which case changli is 100% a buffer

that's just fact

[tired zodiac]

oh so youre just counting anyone who buffs as a buffer

[vapid river]

yes

that's what i said

that's how i know you didn't read everything i said or there was a misunderstanding

[tired zodiac]

how about being a mdps and a buffer

[vapid river]

none of the "dps" on prydwen have an outro like that

[tired zodiac]

no i didnt get why one is exclusive to other

[tired zodiac]

so far

[vapid river]

which was part of what i was saying

stfu

"so far"

go choke on some dong

we're talking about what's out now

no what ifism

[tired zodiac]

again i dont get why a buffer and mdps have to be exclusive

just call her a hybrid

[vapid river]

according to prydwen that's how it is

well it's "hybrid" and "support"

[tired zodiac]

i see

[vapid river]

both of them are buffers

verina is a buffer

skeeper is a buffer

all of them except yuanwu, which i also said

i honestly have no idea what role he really plays

just coords for jinhsi

he deserves his own category tbh

[placid holly]

main dps obviously
his outro is damage

[vapid river]

true

[tired zodiac]

what does expert mean here

[vapid river]

put him in f teir

notice how the arrows are the same color?

if you can play her expertly she moves up a rank

[tired zodiac]

ahh i see

[vapid river]

which just means if you can qs

realistically

[tired zodiac]

if you can quickswap she becomes better

[vapid river]

100000%

she's the best

[tired zodiac]

id call her both mdps and a buffer and not put one exclusive to another

according to me

[vapid river]

yeah and that's okay

[tired zodiac]

danjin would be in the same category ig

[vapid river]

she does mdps damage

they just really fucked over qs teams in general

by not letting the buffs extend to after swaps

[tired zodiac]

coz unlike the others who doesnt need a lot of field time (assuming you dont quickswap) both of em do need to be in field a lot more

[tired zodiac]

chalk got doomed coz of it right

lol

[vapid river]

yeah

well

they fucked him up

even before the qs changes

looking at his sequences and his 2nd inherent skill

like wtf

[tired zodiac]

is he usable as of now? ive not checked on his damage but iirc he was not that bad

[vapid river]

i haven't tried any floor 4s with him in a long while

but he used to clear electro side for me

[tired zodiac]

i did not pull him coz i was def going for encore lol

[vapid river]

now he's just doing 1-3 and 1-2 for left/right sides

[tired zodiac]

are you able to do floor 3 without any diff?

i mean

[vapid river]

his s2 increases res skill dmg

[tired zodiac]

with plenty of time

[vapid river]

which makes no sense

it should increase his liberation but w/e

[tired zodiac]

what does he scale with?

[vapid river]

liberation

[tired zodiac]

lmaoo

[vapid river]

it's "heavy attacks that count as liberation damage"

for his ult attacks

[tired zodiac]

how much % does his ba skill and ult do?

wait lemme check

[vapid river]

yeah i run him with jianxin and lumi

his ult is like 50%?

i think after that it's res skill

but everything else doesn't do anything

oh no it's basic

[tired zodiac]

THE SKILL IS IRRELEVANT?

[vapid river]

almost 80% of his dmg is lib and basic

skill is like nothing

so that s2 res skill buff

super strong

[tired zodiac]

lmaoo

[vapid river]

and one of his inherent skills increases his def%

[tired zodiac]

you need to get to s3 to actually get good buff

[vapid river]

for reasons

[tired zodiac]

truely a xiao moment

[vapid river]

his s6 is pretty nice

[tired zodiac]

i feel like they were going to go with a def + atk scaler and decided to scrap that idea and fucked the kit up in a rush

idk

[vapid river]

he was fine during cbt2

[tired zodiac]

since we do have a weapon which gives both iirc

[vapid river]

from what leafer and fox say

or maid

maybe all three

i think they all played or were well informed during it

[tired zodiac]

that was majorly because quickswap was possible right? and then they fucked up his kit multi as well

iirc

[vapid river]

yeah

b/c buffs didn't drop off after swapping

[tired zodiac]

i wish they return it back

coz quickswapping with changli is so good

[vapid river]

it's still really good

[tired zodiac]

like, even with brant after you use your final forte, if you switch you dont get his outro buff

[vapid river]

107 got any vids of changli qs?

pretty sure they get name pings for that

[tired zodiac]

lets wait ig

i should sleep now

3am

i did tc a simple swap team with brant

[vapid river]

ye, you could look up speed runs with qs changli tho

[tired zodiac]

i think i posted it here

wait lemme find it

[vapid river]

i think you posted a rotation

but i don't remember seeing any numbers

[tired zodiac]

yeah just the rotation

im too dumb for numbers

and this is also assuming that brant's skill does work the way i think it would

[tired zodiac]

this is prwyden's double intro setup being incorportated to brant. you only quickswap when you use changli E to use brant's E (assuming that it fills his forte)

if it doesnt then its fucked

[vapid river]

qs looks fun

but meh

i'll just buy dupes

[tired zodiac]

this isnt as complicated as quickswap btw

this is just slightly faster and uses double intro for changli

[tired zodiac]

just for confirmation what does Q mean?

[vapid river]

ult

do you play mobile?

[tired zodiac]

how the fuck do you QQQ

[tired zodiac]

no i remember changling some keys coz i play genshin

i think it was echo and skill

how do you ult thrice?

[vapid river]

oh q is echo

r is ult

this was from 2 months ago

idk if she wants nm rider or not

[tired zodiac]

oh yeah

i thought so

[tired zodiac]

she does want nm rider

its basically use it if you want

and the damage isnt worth spending 3s on it

and gives skill bonus instead of NA

overall just better

and its swap cancelable

so many merit comapared to base one

lol

[neat robin]

Okay maintenance notice out
time conversion 3-10 pm est iirc
(Wed 12th)

[vapid river]

what's the time that's listed?

with timezone

[neat robin]

4-11 am utc+8

[vapid river]

[neat robin]

On 13th

Pc predownload on 11th am for utc+8

[vapid river]

[neat robin]

I am not looking forward to hecate holo

[tired zodiac]

omagah its the same thing i want to do with brant
here instead of sk you just use brant and you get his forte and do not waste time (assuming it does good damage and it works)

[vapid river]

well they originally had his forte dmg at ~500%

and now it's well over 1k

so

surely it does damage

[tired zodiac]

it becomes much less complicated with brant lmaoo

[tired zodiac]

i thought it was 800

[tired zodiac]

no his NA

[vapid river]

that was the second change

[tired zodiac]

the one in hakushin isnt updated?

[vapid river]

yeah this

this is from hakushin

[tired zodiac]

the 1300 is his forte

[vapid river]

that's what i said

[vapid river]

.

[tired zodiac]

oh nvm

reading issue

since she buffs ult i thought we were talking about his ult

mbmb

[tired zodiac]

i just found out a way to make my qs even faster i think

[vapid river]

yeah this is what it was originally

on the left

[tired zodiac]

i see

so you have to use his forte and ult together huh

i will try to accomodate that in the current qs idea

so use his forte after changli stuffs

i need to confirm if him being midair is enough to replace his skill with plunge

does this mean your E changes to plunge after you click E or that it changes as long as youre midair?

[knotty fiber]

Brant buffs and he can be mdps

lol

[vapid river]

okay now show changli qs speed runs

[knotty fiber]

irrelevant

[vapid river]

but i want to see them

i thought you said they existed

[knotty fiber]

what?

[vapid river]

this is just for funsies

didn't you say changli qs clears the fastest?

[knotty fiber]

?

never said so?

[vapid river]

maybe it was someone else

hmmge

[knotty fiber]

stay on topic please

[vapid river]

no

i'm over it

it all started with "based on prydwen's categories"

[vapid river]

oh i'm dumb, prydwen has "multirole" as a tag changli and danjin both have it nothing is real

[neat robin]

Cuz they’re also dps yes

[vapid river]

nah, hybrid/support ||/s||

[neat robin]

I dont even like changli but I love that merch of her

[neat robin]

Pull count? I heard about 125 f2p, 150 with pass
Sounds right?

[outer nexus]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/s/aekC6Fis6y most recent estimate here

[cobalt apex]

99 cooked

[knotty fiber]

I hate this format

don't convert anything

because I literally thought it's 13k astrite PLUS 99 radiant tides

[cobalt apex]

[outer nexus]

yea weirdass format LMAOOO

13k + 99 radiant we'd be swimming LOL

[cobalt apex]

why isnt there anything to distinguish between non-convert and convert lmao

[lyric fjord]

the lad forgot to translate one word from cyrillic lol

[tired zodiac]

Look now this makes sense
Coz otherwise it's like saying hu tao isn't a dps coz she gives crit to team

[neat robin]

Oh the 125/150 was limited+standard total

99 still decent ngl

Plus pass. Lots extra for brant then canta

[lucid pebble]

Chat, remind me to do wuwa events tomorrow.

[burnt shoal]

is phoebe signature worth it

if we can just use event weapon

[dapper oar]

bro wtf am i supposed to do

[robust axle]

Get it dude its right there

[burnt shoal]

camellya can float in the air

[dapper oar]

well yeah it doesnt give me the prompt to take it in mid air with camellya floating next to it

[tired zodiac]

its joever

[dapper oar]

i took 10 minutes away for a break and the echo disappear ffs

[tired zodiac]

couldve been the one you wanted with max stats

poor you

[dapper oar]

yeah i wouldnt be mad if its like not this particular echoes that isnt limited to 10 per day and is the 3cost one

but it is

[quasi sable]

From what I've been told
Her sig is like 25%-30%+

[blissful tulip]

Finally got her weapon

Hopefully manage to get S0R1 Brant as well

[quasi sable]

This format makes it so confusing

[dapper oar]

is brant's outro easy to trigger bcs i think that's important

what do u call it

concerto generation

[vapid river]

Try again tomorrow

[dusty crown]

canterella is apparently a ||rectifier user, obviously||

[neat robin]

Fucking hope not

I only have 1 variation

[tired zodiac]

not sure if his plunge E regens 10 concetro but other than that it should be easy enough

his E refresh time is 4 seconds

[dapper oar]

ok thats actually kinda huge i hate having to do 25 seconds of SK solo to build her concerto

good overworld update me thinks

[tired zodiac]

not on variation?

[dapper oar]

i am but its not enough since its r2

i have bad luck on everything else but marcato

i am at r15 marcato

[tired zodiac]

do you not use her forte?

[dapper oar]

the hold?

[tired zodiac]

yes

[dapper oar]

i do i still just think its too long

and i am the type to save bursts

[tired zodiac]

hmmm

[dapper oar]

so she had to build concerto without it a lot of the times

[tired zodiac]

iirc it shouldnt take more than 10-12s

[dapper oar]

ye and its too long to me

[tired zodiac]

ah i see

[dapper oar]

since i use sanhua a lot of the time

giga concerto build

just feels so bad in comparison yk

[tired zodiac]

brant would take more time than sanhua ig

but he should deal good damage

hopefully

[dapper oar]

yeah he'd do the dmg himself

do we still not have the creator server?

[knotty fiber]

He does really big dmg

[dapper oar]

its like 3 days until 2.1 how do we still not have like proper showcases lmao

[tired zodiac]

if we ignore his forte and ult is the multiplier good?

ba and skill i mean

[tired zodiac]

E - concerto regen 10
intro - concerto regen 10
forte - concerto regen 20
if his plunge E gives concerto thats another 10 (not sure)
if he has overture r2 another 10
ult gives 20 concerto
basic attack regens concerto as well

[dapper oar]

uhh assume he has sig

[tired zodiac]

alright

since he will have a lot of er im going to assume you start with ult and you will get ult back pretty easily to do ult twice in a rotation

then it should be fast enough concerto regen

[dapper oar]

nice ok

yeah him being an ult spammer helps

[tired zodiac]

wait nvm he has a cooldown of 24s

wtf

[dapper oar]

[tired zodiac]

why the fuck is his ult 24s cooldown

HMMM

let me make a rotation

[knotty fiber]

Guess

[tired zodiac]

imma guess its as much as encore

[knotty fiber]

On paper

His dps is as high as Cameme if not higher

[tired zodiac]

there's damage calcs already?

[knotty fiber]

Cameme WITH Rococo

[tired zodiac]

can you send?

[knotty fiber]

[dapper oar]

holy shit what

[knotty fiber]

I'm lazy to dig that up

But it was like

[tired zodiac]

plssssssssss

[knotty fiber]

9% higher than Sanhua Cameme

[tired zodiac]

WHY THE FUCK IS HIS ULT 24s cooldown bro

[knotty fiber]

Ofc it depends on rotation too

[tired zodiac]

thats him as mdps im guessing?

[knotty fiber]

Might as well question why Cameme's CSkill is 25s

[tired zodiac]

her ult and forte is 25s right?

she spends a lot of time spinning

[knotty fiber]

Yes

Spinning is probably only for comfort

Her best dmg is like

The normal basic

[tired zodiac]

doesnt it give stacks for more damage?

and faster

?

idk her kit much

[knotty fiber]

Not necessarily faster cuz there's ICD

[tired zodiac]

i see

[knotty fiber]

It's the most comfortable playstyle

[dapper oar]

her spinning is bcs its more aoe right

[tired zodiac]

i mean, if ba is slower than icd then spinning should be faster no? idk how fast her ba is

[knotty fiber]

and easiest to stack I guess

But it doesn't deal the most

[tired zodiac]

yeah i assumed that as well

[knotty fiber]

It's stacking ICD, not BA

[tired zodiac]

yeah yeah

[knotty fiber]

I noticed sometimes my normal BA does stack as fast as spinning

[tired zodiac]

assume the icd is 1s, if theres a delay of 1.3s between each ba then youre 0.3s slower than spinning right?

[tired zodiac]

i see

so its fast enough then

[knotty fiber]

It's because her normal chain has multihit too

[tired zodiac]

ok since his ult has a 24s cd it means i have to start with him

if i want to run double outro changli brant

[knotty fiber]

No

Why would you start with the stronger one

You gotta outro Changli into him

[tired zodiac]

i want to use changli outro on him and his outro on changli

[knotty fiber]

Yeah

[tired zodiac]

so make the rotation shorter

[knotty fiber]

iirc the math was for SH Brant

[tired zodiac]

and make it so that it works from second rotation

[tired zodiac]

sh?

[knotty fiber]

I haven't seen Changli Brant

[tired zodiac]

ahh sanhua

[knotty fiber]

Sanhua

[tired zodiac]

i thought so

so it should go smth like this

brant echo, brant ult, brant ba(maybe)
shorekeeper/verina E, echo
swap to brant, brant E and swap cancel to changli midair
changli E and swap cancel to brant use his E plunge
switch to changli , do her E again, switch to sk/verina and ult, outro to changli (she should have 3/4 forte rn)
switch to brant, use his E, forte and outro to changli
do changli stuff and outro to brant

repeat this rotation

[knotty fiber]

Actually

[tired zodiac]

if we assume this will only take around 24 seconds then brant should get the damage bonus from the second rotation

changli's double outro timing is 9.5 something seconds, assume 11s as human error. SK should be around 8-10s. and brant would take another 10 i assume

[tired zodiac]

go on?

[knotty fiber]

Wait I'm busy

[tired zodiac]

ok

[tired zodiac]

this is the current swap cancel idea

assume 30-35s per rotation

assume around 70 concetro before going to brant in point number 10. so we will use his BA (not included here) in the first part (point number 3)

Ult - 20, skill 10 (rest is either BA or another skill until 70 concerto)

if you want, ignore his forte in first rotation and use it after ult in second do deal a lot more damage

ig

[robust axle]

chat do i have to do the old ones in this events time too or can i do them later

[vapid river]

doesn't everyone have like, 20-24 second ult cds?

[tired zodiac]

i expected 20

same as changli

or lower since he has fucking 250 er

[knotty fiber]

That's what I was about to say

[tired zodiac]

oh lmao

[knotty fiber]

Just do the Klt thing

[tired zodiac]

kit thing?

[knotty fiber]

Though ppl might need to cook something for Brant

Carlotta

Carlotta's run also starts with her ult first

Then quickswap every shot

[vapid river]

you should see it

[knotty fiber]

I'm not sure how it will work for Brant yet

[vapid river]

it's fun

107 is lowkey cracked

don't let them tell you otherwise

[knotty fiber]

But should be doable

[tired zodiac]

i see

[tired zodiac]

whats 107?

is it a team?

[tired zodiac]

not sure if this works but this is the best ive got

three colours just to identify which ones grouped together

[vapid river]

107 is the person you've been talking to this whole time

you goof

[tired zodiac]

i thought you were refering to smth else

since we were talking about carlotta

[vapid river]

Blade used confusion(on accident)

it was highly effective!

[tired zodiac]

i was typing it

[vapid river]

[tired zodiac]

klee's passive ability: second language made him weak against it

[neat robin]

I have no idea what I’ll be doing with brant
He can do floor 1-3 ig without changli

[lament shuttle]

I’m excited to see how he performs but I’m still saving this patch lol

[tired zodiac]

ill pull him, idk if i should pull his weapon

[neat robin]

I dont think he’ll be good qs without sig

You can prob cope with rejuv brant or moonlit + overture

[tired zodiac]

i was thinking tidebreaking and overture

gotta see his damage first

[neat robin]

Kinda forgot ascension mats were a thing, I gotta start farming dirge dragon for brant

I have like zero 3costs for tidebreaker cuz theres no field yet too

[wraith steeple]

so you folded?

good man

good good man

[neat robin]

Yeah after seeing pull count

I already bave to enough to guarantee brant & sig

2.1 + 2.2 pulls will be enough to guarantee cantarella + sig too

[neat robin]

He looks so fun in his little trailer

Question
His passive er->atk is always active right?
Just doubles for x time after ulting?

[torn tapir]

When I get to 100 I'ma spend them all on Cameylla echoes

[lyric fjord]

the buff he gets from ult disappears if he leaves the field, no?

[wraith steeple]

yes its active all the time and the ult version is only for 12 seconds you are correct

[wraith steeple]

i knew you'd come to this side

[neat robin]

No I always thought he’d be fun it was just dependant on funds

[wraith steeple]

well earlier you mentioned you'd skip if cantrella or cartheyia (one of the two) were broken so i didnt know the sentiment changed lmao

thankful tho

bc he will be very fun

[neat robin]

Yeah, after I saw cantarella it was gonna be one or the other cuz I wanted sk sig + one of them+sig

But whatever I’ll just pray I get another variation
And just get both chars

[knotty fiber]

S6 Thyia waiting room

[neat robin]

Mood

[knotty fiber]

I bet Thyia is either sword or broadblade

[neat robin]

More I see I want cia thiya more than phoebe zani

[knotty fiber]

Considering it's kudog

[neat robin]

Cia was giving forest elf
Love it

[knotty fiber]

Not that interested in Ciaccona

But she's maid model

So maybe

And she might be Thyia's partner

[neat robin]

Shes kinda cute, want to see her full design though

The wood horns and instrument

With s3 carlotta I may cope and run hsi zz, and lotta brant

I really dont like non-zz hsi team

[vapid river]

Mort's replacement waiting room

[lyric fjord]

in what team?

for jiyan just slot in aalto

[neat robin]

Mort > aalto

[neat robin]

Phoebes combat demo is out
Flashy but still not tempting me

[tired zodiac]

New update out?

[vapid river]

no

launcher has an update

[lament shuttle]

It’s like on Tuesday no

[vapid river]

tuesday or wednesday?

idk check hours on banner?

then add like 2 hours or something dumb

ninjy posted when it happens

iirc it's wednesday at like, 3pm cst?

or 4

[vapid river]

^

but it's from 4-11 am utc+8

yeah banner ends for me at 11am wednesday

servers go down 2 pm

[neat robin]

3-10pm est for actual maint

[wraith steeple]

hey bb question

86/250 with 261 er

or 85/236 with 272 er?

[tired zodiac]

i was today years old when i knew we can get 12,8 energy recharge

i thought the max was 10

[neat robin]

Is this brant? I’m ngl I dont actually know how much er caps his conversion but probably keep the cdmg roll

Unless its really bad other subs
Like. Higher er with basic & atk% > cdmg roll and nothing else useful

[knotty fiber]

it's around 250%

oh

310%

[neat robin]

Hm

[neat robin]

I may be dumb cuz its 4 am

Isnt that capped at 280 total er

[knotty fiber]

hold up

I might be dumb

yeah I am

[neat robin]

[knotty fiber]

it's 1:20

lol

150% + 130%

[neat robin]

130% extra er x20 atk per 1%

So 14% cdmg vs 11% er (220 atk)

[knotty fiber]

220 atk should be better

[neat robin]

What stat does brant have for his passives

Cr or cdmg?

[knotty fiber]

atk crit rate

[neat robin]

So 16 free cr off sig and passives
Cool

I wonder if double er mains for his conversion would be better than one fusion%

Hes got a lot of basic dmg from sig but no sources of fusion dmg unless a 3cost

[knotty fiber]

if you don't have sig yes

if you have sig then ER ele is your go to

[neat robin]

I wouldnt get him without sig

Or at least not built as dps. Can slap moon/rejuv overture on support brant

I’m genuinely just thinking I’ll play lotta brant
Idk who for 3rd. Sk ig for buffs if hsi has verina

[wraith steeple]

someone did calcs it's super negligent difference

so I just went double er for more atk

made it easier to build crit stats and basic attack dmg bonus

like the difference between fusion and 1 er vs 2 er isn't even 2 percent difference

[shut isle]

havent really paid attention to leaks for brant, can he mdps or is he kinda just a subdps/healer that does dmg

[wraith steeple]

the latter

tbh

im making mdps because of s2 tho

free crit rate

[shut isle]

brant's cool but need another mdps on my account rn, only have lotta and hrover

[wraith steeple]

ah I see i think phoebe is mdps

brant is just more fun tho

and his forte circuit has the second highest scaling in the game so far

[shut isle]

yeah was thinking of pulling phoebe for mdps and than transition her to subdps assuming zani or something is a traditional dps or something

issue is i use hrover

so dont really have spectro rover available

[wraith steeple]

well then atp....

dual dps might be your next best best

orrrrr just grab jinshi LMAO

[tired zodiac]

apparently he is as good as cammy if you use him as mdps

[lyric fjord]

oh phoebe's sig got nerfed

it was Increase ATK by 12%. Dealing DMG to enemies with Spectro Frazzle grants the wielder 14% Basic Attack DMG Bonus and 14% Heavy Attack DMG Bonus, stacking up to 3 {Cus:Sap,S=time P=times SapTag=2} for 6s. Casting Outro Skill Amplifies the Spectro Frazzle DMG on enemies around the active Resonator by 50% for 30s. Effects of the same name cannot be stacked.

[burnt shoal]

https://vxtwitter.com/KydroTV/status/1888813186549252138

[winged belfry]

I was thinking of pulling Phoebe as overworld unit mainly

But more I look at it, more she needs SRover even for overworld

[lyric fjord]

linking the tweet of a random CC rather than the official link is crazy

[lyric fjord]

she applies a stack when changing modes and only need spectro frazzle for her heavy, she'll need spectro rover in the healer slot but it's fine

[rotund drum]

how long does one stack last

[lament shuttle]

DOT for you, DOT for you, DOT for me

[rotund drum]

according to google its 3s so its probably only good for one nuke

[lament shuttle]

Let’s see if these stacks can crit or not

[ruby rune]

is nm crownless better than dreamless for mdps havoc mc

[barren drift]

i hope we get more sets that allow chars to deal those effects

[lyric fjord]

No sets allows to deal them currently, they just provide boosts if you do

[barren drift]

yeah thats why

[neat robin]

Dreamless for havoc rover
Nm crownless is camys

[ruby rune]

gotcha

thanks

[neat robin]

Time to go murder all tidebreaker 3costs in my world

I have a bunch of fusion ones need more er

[dusty crown]

What's the difference between erosion and frazzle

Burst and bane have similar effects but it seems burst will deal higher damage while bane will have use in AoE where it can trigger chain reactions

[neat robin]

Frazzle is set dmg and each time it triggers you lose a stack
Erosion is more dmg the more stacks

These are already in the game, just only frazzle is on playable chars

[dusty crown]

Ah

[vapid river]

If you need more let me know and I can get on if you want to steal them in like 45 minutes

[shut isle]

What team?/sub dps

[neat robin]

You can run brant sanhua sk

[winged belfry]

A single stack will be gone in 3 second

[lyric fjord]

Overworld stuff dies in that time

[rotund drum]

thats only enough time for one cast of nuke

1-costs might die but 3-costs probably wont

[wraith steeple]

good luck!!!

[neat robin]

I got 3 fusion and no er mains so far

Havent killed all the hat things yet

[wraith steeple]

made me so aggy farming those shits

[tired zodiac]

I was told Beant sanhua

But as subdps changli brant

[burnt shoal]

bought out a shop only for weekly bp to show this

[lament shuttle]

Rip

[winged belfry]

Raguna 3 cost take like 2 of 2 part Carlotta skill and Forte heavy

So no, it's more like 10s

And I don't want to do setups foroverworld

like only setups i sometimea do is sanhua, but that because how fast she is

[rotund drum]

its easy to underestimate how long stuff actually takes

even something like carlotta's skill is already like 3 seconds of animation

given how slow feeb's HA animation is i wouldnt be surprised if she could only get one off

[burnt shoal]

is e1 better than s1

since free event weapon

[lucid pebble]

You love to see it.

ATK?

[neat robin]

Farming a set without a tacet field is awful

I think I’m taking the first er + cr pieces I find for brant and I’ll work on cdmg later

[wraith steeple]

idk how i did it

[neat robin]

At about 160 pulls now (guaranteed char)
Then about 120 from 2.1 …
Whats brants s1

The stagnate thing
Hakushin is kinda messed up for his s2 too lol

[neat robin]

1 eyeball is er
Everything else is fusion (plus like 5 other fusion I scrapped earlier)

[knotty fiber]

I think I will be skipping Fibi's weapon

Even tho I like its drip so much

[rotund drum]

stringless is probably good enough

these dot debuffs are all hyper-specific so getting a sig that relies on it is kinda sus

would have been better if it actually inflicted frazzle on hit

kusogames is probably out of ideas already

add like 5 dots and they're all the same and rely on super specific ways to apply them

[dapper oar]

im being fr i got more pieces for brant than i do for phoebe having a tacet field doesnt mean shit

[neon falcon]

is anyone else seeing patrick's ass?

[quasi sable]

Patrick Gyattfish

[edgy cobalt]

to anyone who chose to redownload the whole game how much gb did y'all end up saving

[lyric fjord]

fan service is getting out of hand

[knotty fiber]

redownloading doesn't do anything tho

I was just saying it's basically redownloading the whole thing cuz the predl is as heavy as the game

[quasi sable]

Why is it whole game

Instead of next patch

Like hoyo

[knotty fiber]

no idea

[edgy cobalt]

might have to uninstall hsr on pc to run wuwa insane

or quit wuwa
too lazy to find a way to upgrade ssd

[knotty fiber]

what

[edgy cobalt]

yes

less than 30gb to go

[knotty fiber]

is yours a laptop

[edgy cobalt]

yeah

[knotty fiber]

does it not have a second SSD slot

[edgy cobalt]

I can fit an hdd but that's just
no

that's what I'm trying to figure out cuz apparently I can

[knotty fiber]

most laptops should have a second m.2 slot

I don't know how "ancient" yours might be if it doesn't

[edgy cobalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/959261567365562398/1241248924375846942/IMG_5631.png?ex=67ab7d64&is=67aa2be4&hm=4b94f2cdfd2c6a9dd0619317795dc4cddab4017b757278e68d2f691301690708&

for reference

bottom left is the free slot

vid or two are saying ssd but I thought its only for hdd? I know jackshit

[knotty fiber]

what's your model

it looks like a rog for me but I can't be sure

[edgy cobalt]

fx505dt

asus

kept digging and ig I could shove an ssd in that spot but still gotta make sure

[knotty fiber]

well crap it has only one slot

no wonder I can't find another

and one sata slot

the bottom left that you mentioned is a sata slot

you can use it for HDD or SATA SSD

[edgy cobalt]

sata ssd it is

[knotty fiber]

the install is easy

[edgy cobalt]

yeah it looks easy enough

its funny because that pic was the first time I opened it up to fit another ram stick just to run wuwa last year

[knotty fiber]

did you

cuz I find it weird

[edgy cobalt]

yeah I was 8gb coping for years

[knotty fiber]

playing wuwa with 16gb is not a pleas-

[edgy cobalt]

yeplmao

[knotty fiber]

you played with 8??

[edgy cobalt]

nah vro

I upgraded to 16 just to play wuwa

[knotty fiber]

I meant if you were playing with 8 prior to the upgrade

[edgy cobalt]

8gb with genshit back in the days and hsr yes
but wuwa I was like erm
yeah 16gb is about time

[knotty fiber]

but tbh 16gb is still ass because of how much ram WW takes

I have a couple browser tabs on

[edgy cobalt]

operagx gaming

I run low settings for the most part and I've only crashed like twice

but I'm like 15s diffed cuz of my specs + 10s diffed cuz of my hands for toa runs

[edgy cobalt]

I could fullsend and get a tb or 2 but idk if that's gonna screw my internals or smth, realisitcally 500gb should last me a long time either way since I'm not AAA slopping

[dusty crown]

having only 16gb hasn't been an issue for me

even when i have discord, a few firefox tabs (including sports streams) and video edits going

[knotty fiber]

for someone who likes playing with discord and a couple browser tabs on so that is an issue

my laptop has only 16gb

and I suffered playing it

[dusty crown]

[edgy cobalt]

oh yeah you're running 120 fps

just run 60

[knotty fiber]

it's still the same for 60 I think

cuz it's the graphics card that's doing the work

[quasi sable]

Is your laptop asus tuf 15?

Also

[edgy cobalt]

think so yeah, I typed the model

[quasi sable]

You can use SSD

As long it's 2.5 inch

Just buy the flexible cable

[edgy cobalt]

and any storage size is fine

[quasi sable]

Mhm

[edgy cobalt]

flexible cable?

[quasi sable]

Yeah

[edgy cobalt]

tell me more I know nothing about that

[quasi sable]

It's for reading the SSD

@edgy cobalt

You need this

But look for your model

[edgy cobalt]

really? I don't think I need that for my laptop

all the guides I've seen are
just shove it in and it works lmao

[quasi sable]

Well your option is SATA or M. 2

Cuz I literally installed an SSD like when 2.0 released

I have ZZZ and hsr

[quasi sable]

For m. 2 no you don't need the cable
But SATA yes

Also those just shove it in usually have built in connector

[edgy cobalt]

https://youtu.be/KxZDlOo3q_4?si=cdyXJ2M9WtGKrogz

blud just shoved it in ez

[quasi sable]

Yea it has the connector already

Oh wait

Yours have it too

Sorry

Yeah you don't need the cable

[edgy cobalt]

kushiscams

:hushock:

[quasi sable]

I didn't realize the position of the slot

Sorry man

[edgy cobalt]

np

[quasi sable]

Mines like

Facing to the battery

[edgy cobalt]

yeah if it's an actual pc then I would probably need a cable

unless my laptop is just goated

[quasi sable]

@edgy cobalt This is what mine looks like

Doesn't have built in connector

So have to buy it

[edgy cobalt]

breh

[wraith steeple]

damm

[wraith steeple]

how is he so far?

[neat robin]

I dont wanna talk about it

I’ll do fields in the morning and maybe try to get dragon & 1costs worked on

[wraith steeple]

damn fam

[edgy cobalt]

more calcs I saw is that stringmaster is 2% worse than phoebe sig

[uneven flame]

I should have pulled for a 2nd Stringmaster

[opaque flume]

Where are weapon calcs

[edgy cobalt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1329294535347671093/1338723383768256525/image-9.png?ex=67ac1ece&is=67aacd4e&hm=4855ba692826001d7f7db02136ddaaa52970de129a6a3a73c3b650d68fb4e346&

this might’ve been the old one actually

[tired zodiac]

is there one for brant like this?

[burnt shoal]

can't wait for echo limit increase

[tired zodiac]

soon

[ruby rune]

do I need to ascend mortefi and yuanwu to 70 btw?

[lament shuttle]

Mort yes, other no

[ruby rune]

gotcha

[vapid river]

i'd say no to mort

but i hate him

i'm very biased

[neat robin]

You kinda want to ascend yuanwu to unlock his 2nd passive

[vapid river]

and that's why i'll never use him

he doesn't deserve it either

ugly ah man

if in gacha why be ugly?

[rotund drum]

hes probably supposed to appeal to the ikemen crowd but he mostly just looks old and gross

i still use him since its either him or midtefi

but yeah

[neat robin]

Well good enough
Now I need to get an er main

[wraith steeple]

well damn

[wraith steeple]

oh so you have enough er subs to do 1 er and 1 fusion

nice I like double er so I get that high ass attack boost

[neat robin]

Not yet

I’m getting shafted these echos are rolling like ass

I have an er 3cost now at least, I can do 1 er 1 fusion for a while

With sig and 1 er main hes already at 219/250 er for minimum req

229 total, with that fusion piece

[wraith steeple]

what is 219/250?

ohhh nvm

[neat robin]

To get tidebreaker bonus

If I get 5 er subs I should hopefully be around 260-270 er without double mainstat

[wraith steeple]

????

[neat robin]

Whatd the bot delete lol

[wraith steeple]

id just go for double main stat atp the different is like ~1% don't Stretch yourself thin