Those are the leaked aero duo
#・wuwa-lounge
neat robin
Its ok for 2pc when you first get a char
My xy was on 2/2 since he released til like a week ago lol
I’m trying to get yinlin on empyrean now
neat robin
I just need more tuners
Idc about the exp or actual echos
I may skip this 2x event I’m ngl
Though ig it doesnt hurt to get sword mats in case I do get brant, i’ll need more to level a sig too
rotund drum
do you not have a billion of those chests still
xp vials is probably the biggest gate atm
i think i did 5* roccia entirely from those chests and didnt even use half of them
neat robin
I used a bunch on srover
harsh coral
What are the best standard weapons to aim for considering that I run Jiyan and Jinhsi both with their sigs? Should I get the sword for Rover? The guns for Moortefi?
neat robin
What are the best standard weapons to aim for considering that I run Jiyan and J...
Sword is good for basically everyone
Pistol is good for mort in Jiyan’s team
The other 3 are better than most 4* but not priority
tired zodiac
anyone here?
winged belfry
What are the best standard weapons to aim for considering that I run Jiyan and J...
2 copies of EoS - Sanhua and Rover, then Pistol - mostly for Mortefi, but it works for others as well
Then it's a bit rough
Zhezhi and Encore can use standard rectifer, but any of the damage sigs would be better
Standard Gauntlet is super useless
And standard broadsword is not horrible as horrible, but if you have Jiyan and/or Jinhsi sig, there is no point in using that
rotund drum
it doesnt hurt to have a second EOS since its one of the better weapons overall just by virtue of having crit
neat robin
EoG lol
rotund drum
but you dont really need 2 of it unless you plan to use sanhua + cammy
nah EOS is accurate
given the earnings
neat robin
I have 2 eog and 1 each of the others except rectifier
vapid river
Standard Gauntlet is super useless
they were basically made for lingyang so this checks out 
and the broadblade is practically carrot's sig
neat robin
Deadass I kinda wanna start just refining an eog to r5
rotund drum
id get at least one 5* of each weapon type if you dont already have sigs to cover fist/claymore/rectifier
no crit is kinda ass ofc but its still better than cope 4*s
neat robin
Sanhua can keep a r1 eog but r5 could be for literally any sword except like.. brant
rotund drum
isnt the R pretty mid
neat robin
Non crit 5* miles better than non crit 4*
vapid river
yeah r5 emerald would be nice
rotund drum
doesnt sound worth but its standard pulls that you have no other use for i guess
vapid river
sword users got lucky
rotund drum
you're literally getting like 2% ER and atk each year
neat robin
Ah. Yeah r5 is 24% er and 12% atk (max 2 stacks) each skill use
vapid river
if my weapon rates would have been the same as standard banner i'd already have r5 emerald
rotund drum
since wuwa doesnt have weekly standard fates/monthly shop reset/free standards for leveling new chars
neat robin
Nothing else is worth on standard
If the char banner was 5050 for a chosen standard char id go for verinas
vapid river
same
rotund drum
you get like 12 per patch assuming they rerun the 5 fates event
vapid river
actually over pulling on standard banner
rotund drum
then whatever they hand out for exploration
neat robin
Wuwa is 7 pulls per patch instead of 5 per month
vapid river
40
rotund drum
no weekly or character fates though
vapid river
average pity on standard banner is 40
neat robin
Where tf are you getting weekly pulls from lol
vapid river
rotund drum
💤 gives 7 per month + 1 per week + 3 per char
rotund drum
Where tf are you getting weekly pulls from lol
simuni/hollow zero
neat robin
For a game that isnt openworld
If you did exploration we got 1 pull per section of the map now
rotund drum
open world isnt a plus
rotund drum
the one-time pulls helps a bit but getting 100% on the map is actual cancer
esp the old ones
im at like 95% on most of them because of missing chests or w/e
neat robin
Its almost like theres free treasure markers
neat robin
Loot marker device works everywhere
vapid river
yeah idk why they didn't add that in for the old areas
some chests legit can't be found with it
.>
neat robin
I do hope they add it in
rotund drum
they didnt add flight back into the old areas either
vapid river
i scoured all of desrock or w/e it is
and couldn't find the chests with lootmapper
had to use a site
rotund drum
i dont even want to do daily quests back in the old zones anymore
too much cancer to walk around
vapid river
ikr?
neat robin
But complaining about exploring in an openworld game is kinda 
vapid river
i float down to mobs and go
rotund drum
there's a reason why wukong sold more than elden ring
vapid river
"why can't just fly to them?"
nah, i'll agree with simp on this
make flight available everywhere
it can't be that hard
neat robin
Flight wasnt even a topic lol
vapid river
they didnt add flight back into the old areas either
^
rotund drum
its the topic of 1.x being cancer
imagine walking around looking for chests that dont show up on the lootmapper for an hour
for 1 standard fate
neat robin
And I’m not disagreeing. Flight is good
rotund drum
do that 70 times for a refine for +2% ER
vapid river
i understand the "hidden" chests not being picked up by it but it's still annoying
neat robin
But wanting to remove the whole point of exploring for chests is just like ??
Why are you playing open world games then. Its a part of them
lament shuttle
there's a reason why wukong sold more than elden ring
It being a Chinese pride video game probably helped a lot
rotund drum
thats like defending genshit's lack of dialogue skip because "ti's a story game"
vapid river
if i've been in the same area a thousand times i'd rather just fly through it
rotund drum
"why dont you like this super cancer third world ass mechanic, it's part of the game"
vapid river
after the first few times i't's not really exploration anymore. to me at least
neat robin
Why are you going back to flight nobody is arguing about not using wings
edgy cobalt
me visiting this channel and seeing yap
rotund drum
"why do you even play this game if you dont enjoy taking it up the ass from devs every 5 seconds"
neat robin
Explore for the chests as exploration is meant to be
You dont need a tracker to show you every single thing
Its fun finding hidden things
rotund drum
its not
vapid river
for some yes, others just want to get it over with b/c they don't view hidden chests as exploration/fun
rotund drum
not running around an empty zone looking for the one thing you missed
for chump change rewards
lament shuttle
I prefer the chests in the new zone
lament shuttle
But I’m not a completionist in games
neat robin
You can get the 100% reward without every single thing
lament shuttle
As in the first region I have a lot of things at 50% still lol
vapid river
like the ones that were hidden around the bunnies digging
rotund drum
even rebirth realized that chasing bunnies sucks and just added a chocobo thing to auto-locate it
rotund drum
let me track multiple echoes at once too
and let me fly in a straight line
and fly off the ground
lament shuttle
Better echo sorting/disassembly would be nice. Ik they improved it but like
neat robin
Id like multi echo tracking. Find all the 3cost types instead of crossing map 3-4x
lament shuttle
Rule based sorting like tf am I gonna do with aero dmg on the spectro set lol
rotund drum
the echo sorting mostly just needs a dismantle mismatched elemental echoes option
lament shuttle
Flight idc about from ground or wtv just make it everywhere
rotund drum
but yeah nothing like plunge dodge heavy fly up then rollercoaster up and down 50 times to clear the map of one type of echo then redo the exact same route for the next type
gbf is less grindy than the echo routes in this game
fortunately no one bothers with manual farming after week 1
neat robin
Its gonna take forever to replace my yinlins set 
I spent so long only for empyrean set to drop
Is 2.1 update on wed?
neat robin
Oh 5 day 20 hrs left on banner
vapid river
ye
neat robin
That always ends a couple hrs before update so yeah. 6 days from now. Wed evening for me
vapid river
but isn't it different for asia servers?
neat robin
New patch, everyone will have maint. at the same time
vapid river
lament shuttle
Its gonna take forever to replace my yinlins set <a:catRage:953870777546076180> ...
If your moonlit is already good you shouldn’t replace it lol
Next patch is skip for me unless either of the units ends up being meta changing unexpectedly
neat robin
Idk the only calcs ive seen have empyrean doing a significant higher dps than moonlit
neat robin
Jinhsi kept dying
Xy srover quickswap was kinda fun
They both have timeslow effects lol
neat robin
I mean ig I could have done hsi quickswap, but she loses buffs cuz I had zz with her
And I dont have changli
lucid pebble
Is rainbow Aix the only option for new spectro set right now?
knotty fiber
Yes
As meh as it is, there's no other option
The more I think about it the more I think Fibi should just stick with old spectro
wraith steeple
yeah
unless we get more spectral frazzle options but spectro frazzle just feels like an unnecessary extra step for something
opaque flume
Did livestream happen
Wuwa lounge’s best minds are still thinking about this
neat robin
It hasnt, cuz its not the 7th yet
opaque flume
What is Google.gprivate.com
lament shuttle
What is Google.gprivate.com
2.1 stream
burnt shoal
wait wuwa abyss is 1 month now?
neat robin
wait wuwa abyss is 1 month now?
They’re adding a weekly mode in with 2.1 update
tired zodiac
Do we know the 4 stars in brant's weapon banner?
tired zodiac
posting it here for the 5 brant pullers (not sure if this works)
placid holly
TREASUREHUNT
placid holly
VAULTOPS
dapper oar
wuwa is officially the better game just by the fact they have echo loadouts
its so insane
dapper oar
posting it here for the 5 brant pullers (not sure if this works)
I love changli i have her RC1S1 but god i cant do her quickswap gameplay
placid holly
SETSAIL
outer jetty
they are codes
lyric fjord
Need to boot the game tho
rotund drum
wuwa is officially the better game just by the fact they have echo loadouts
the problem is that they're universal and you can't load them per team iirc
its not like gbf where you can just farm one of everything and slot it into every team
kusogames wants us spending resin on farming a separate set for every char
same reason genshit hasnt done it yet
limber imp
HELLO?!
blissful tulip
dusty crown
Cantarella
tired zodiac
I love changli i have her RC1S1 but god i cant do her quickswap gameplay
Kekw, this is a pretty easy one
Basically, when you use E, changli goes up and then plunges, instead of plunging with her, switch to brant right before plunging and use his E which should make him plunge and refil his forte
dusty crown
posting it here for the 5 brant pullers (not sure if this works)
Sukokomon looks easy compared to this.
tired zodiac
Sukokomon looks easy compared to this.
Wtf
Let me put it in simple words
Brant skill, brant will jump
Switch to changli when brant jump
Use changli skill and before changli plunge Switch to brant
Then use brant E when you're in air
It's easy once you get the gist of it
neat robin
kusogames wants us spending resin on farming a separate set for every char
Well no shit, you need at least 3 sets per team
But the rejuv and a generic atk% moonlit can now be easily swapped across anybody
lyric fjord
Why are there so many hacked accounts these days?
neat robin
Wdym?
vapid river
if you have his sig and 2 er% 3 cost you only need 2 echoes with er subs to get 250%(100% base and then 150+ from sig/echoes)
you could get by with just having 1 er sub too
if it's 9% or more
77+64=141
although you could just use 1 er% 3 cost if you can get all of them with er% subs
you'd be at 109 with sig+1 er% 3 cost
not easy, but doable
lament shuttle
if you have his sig and 2 er% 3 cost you only need 2 echoes with er subs to get ...
Farming echos for him is gonna suck
It’s gonna be a mega pain in the ass
lament shuttle
If you want him to do dmg yes
vapid river
the "next best" is overture at 51.8% er
lament shuttle
If you don’t have sig you probably run heal set on him lol
vapid river
which gives you 115.8 with 2 er% 3 costs
so you can still get there
unless he's also getting some event weapon that might also have higher er
but there is a 4* weapon with er% that could get you there
dapper oar
the weapon event for 2.1 is for phoebs right?
vapid river
yeah afaik
it's the uhh, variation version of a sword?
at max ul we should be getting one yellow from any of these on every attempt
change my mind
lyric fjord
Honestly, no. We get an absurd amount of free mats from events. Outside of double loot events, i never farmed these and never had to, still managed to level to 10 every useful skills on all my characters i use in ToA + lingyang
vapid river
why would you do it for lingyang?
yes, we do get a lot from rewards, but also i want more
lyric fjord
why would you do it for lingyang?
I only had xy, changli and rover. Needed another team for toa
tired zodiac
although you could just use 1 er% 3 cost if you can get all of them with er% sub...
That's better ig? Crit, fusion, er, atk,atk and
Get Er, crit dmg and crit rate and basic bonus on sub
If you have his sig
tired zodiac
It’s gonna be a mega pain in the ass
I have two already. I just need one more er and 2 1 cost
neat robin
Crit 4cost, 1 er / 1 ele 3cost, you hit 250+ er
tired zodiac
the "next best" is overture at 51.8% er
The only next 
lament shuttle
I have two already. I just need one more er and 2 1 cost
Do they all have double crit and ER subs
neat robin
I feel like brant wont be worth getting without sig unless you’re running him for the rejuv buff
tired zodiac
Do they all have double crit and ER subs
I'll send in 5 mins
neat robin
I think I’ll get brant+ sig and still be able to get cantarella… hopefully she wont need sig either
neat robin
Its kinda shit
You lose 25 er, 8 cr & 24/48 basic dmg
And the 25 er loss alone means he gains less atk with his passive
neat robin
I have a kinda shit, but useable srover
I’m gonna start rolling brant pieces now
Er cr cdmg basic% atk% on everything pls 
tired zodiac
Brant's damage would'nt be a complete game changer btw
Do you have changli?
Or encore?
vapid river
The only next <:E_pepelol:792804369749377024>
nah there's a blue er sword
neat robin
Brant's damage would'nt be a complete game changer btw
Nope I’m getting him cuz I like him
tired zodiac
Do they all have double crit and ER subs
its not the greatest but its usable
neat robin
I have teams I dont need to pull anyone now
lament shuttle
its not the greatest but its usable
the second one isn’t usable because you need ER subs on each
neat robin
You need 4(?) er subs if you have sig and 1 er mainstat
tired zodiac
Nope I’m getting him cuz I like him
then go for the weapon if you really want the weapon, if in the future we get an er weapon with any BA, atk buff the value of this weapon will drop
limber imp
Cartethyia sword user?
lament shuttle
Is it 4 or 5?
tired zodiac
the second one isn’t usable because you need ER subs on each
i will get er on the rest. ill get 250 er with overture
limber imp
The one we saw in the quest kinda looks like an npc
neat robin
77+10+32 from sig 2pc main
And lets say 8-9% per er sub
119 + 32 (4 er 8%) = +151 er
If you dont have sig you’ll need to use 2 er mains
tired zodiac
yes you do
if you use overture you need CRIT ER ER ATK ATK
if you have bis you can use CRIT FUSION ER ATK ATK
neat robin
Sig = cr er fusion, with 4 er subs
Overture = cr er er, with 3-4 er subs (3 if you have high rolls)
Again idk if itd be worth trying to make dps build without his sig anyways
Rejuv for heal buff, or moonlit cuz you’ll be outro’ing with overture’s concerto passive
tired zodiac
well assuming you get 250 er on both
you get 32 fusion bonus, 48% na bonus and 7 crit rate
neat robin
Sig gets the 30% fusion main, 8 cr, 24/48 basic% over what overture will let you have
Thats not insignificant
I hope brant building will go as easily as sk’s did
Er hp cdmg on her, need er cr cdmg on brant 
Double crit farming sucks
tired zodiac
lol in this case you need er as well
neat robin
Yeah I already did that on sk and it only took a couple days
Quickest ive been able to build a char
I want brant to be the same
Its 3 weeks ive got time
I can put empyrean yinlin on hold
tired zodiac
i hope we get a lot of those boxes with new set
if this was er weapon this woulve been so good
tawdry sapphire
what are the codes
TREASUREHUNT
VAULTOPS
SETSAIL
opaque flume
TREASUREHUNT
VAULTOPS
SETSAIL
Ok thanks
knotty fiber
I didn't expect the "Thyia having 2 forms" leak to be true
Sorry just woke up I'm catching up
neat robin
I wonder which one will be playable
knotty fiber
Maybe both
Well I will still love her
As long as she still has the tiny form
Because I'm not a hag enjoyer
lucid pebble
lyric fjord
No u cant :(
She is a spectro dps with very large aoe. Using spectro rover is mandatory though
tired zodiac
Can I squish her cheeks ingame?
If this was a dating sim yes.
She's a spectro frazzle based dps
harsh coral
So, now that the banners are officially announced I need to consider which, if any, I should pull on. I'm a returning player with only Jiyan and Jinhsi as limited characters so my roster is pretty limited.
lyric fjord
Grab their signatures if you dont have them, then either pull for changli/brant or save.
We dont know if cantarella will be good for jinhsi yet.
As for 2.3 we dont know much
harsh coral
I have Jinhsi's sig and S1 already. So, you don't recommend Rocca or Phoebe? IIRC Changli is a quickswap DPS? What does Brant do?
lucid pebble
Roccia is for Cammy.
harsh coral
Sorry, meant Rocca or Phoebe
As in, considering that my roster is so sparse is it worth pulling either of them
opaque flume
So, now that the banners are officially announced I need to consider which, if a...
🤓
Bro just pull who you want
lyric fjord
I have Jinhsi's sig and S1 already. So, you don't recommend Rocca or Phoebe? II...
If you dont have a large roster and you don't have any preference, it's better to make sure you cover more elements. Phoebe and jinhsi are both spectro
harsh coral
I see. Thanks
rotund drum
gacha roccia is decent but she kinda needs sig since there's no good f2p option for her
cammy and carly can use standard 5*s by comparison
tired zodiac
So, now that the banners are officially announced I need to consider which, if a...
well try getting shorekeeper first
both brant and pheobe are very specific in their gameplay so you can skip them. Changli is skippable too since you already have two dpses. changli and brant are a really good team if you are thinking of pulling one of em, i think pheobe can run with spectro rover
rotund drum
well try getting shorekeeper first
both brant and pheobe are very specific in th...
jiyan isnt really a dps by 2025 standards
at least one more dps would go a long way
for tower etc
tired zodiac
I have Jinhsi's sig and S1 already. So, you don't recommend Rocca or Phoebe? II...
roccia is a havoc buffer since you dont have camm rn dont go for it now.
brant is a fusion support, he is tailored to work with changli
rotund drum
phoebe is probably his best bet if he wants a 5* dps who doesnt require a ton of other 5*s to work
tired zodiac
at least one more dps would go a long way
id rather save for an upcoming support than another dps in this situation. jiyan is still not that bad
rotund drum
although that means he has two spectro dps and nothing else
all the supports in this game are super specific due to amp mechanic
tired zodiac
shorekeeper will likely be in the next update
rotund drum
its not like getting caesar or kazuha where you can just use them for everything
roccia is probably the closest to kazuha tbh
tired zodiac
sk is very universal
tired zodiac
some is an understatement
rotund drum
its the same as verina plus some crit iirc
also what good is buffing if theres no one to buff
is he gonna buff danjin or jiyan lol
tired zodiac
she heals, she has very fast concerto regen, she guarantees you from a fatal hit and gives major crit buffs
tired zodiac
is he gonna buff danjin or jiyan lol
she can buff jiyan tho
tired zodiac
she heals, she has very fast concerto regen, she guarantees you from a fatal hit...
compared to verina
tired zodiac
its like 12% crit
12 crit rate and 25 crit dmg
is a lot of crit
currently the most broken universal support ingame
rotund drum
i mean its fine since its free buffs on top of healing but its a lot less than just having a matching amp/dps duo
knotty fiber
I have to stop that right there
rotund drum
12% crit isnt gonna save jiyan from 1.0creep either
knotty fiber
good yes, great yes, but broken no
rotund drum
i would much rather have carlotta + verina than jiyan + boresleeper lol
ofc he missed carlotta so he's SOL
tired zodiac
good yes, great yes, but broken no
do we have a better support?
rotund drum
phoebe is fine too
knotty fiber
not having a better support doesn't make her "broken"
rotund drum
thats like saying klee is broken because shes the best pyro dps in 1.0
knotty fiber
I think people just mix up the concepts now
tired zodiac
if my only characters are jiyan and jinxi id rather save for sk than pull for pheobe or even changli
(i like changli)
rotund drum
well thats your opinion i guess
the only reason i would skip feeb tbh is because he already has a spectro dps
so he will get fucked by aix if he only has jinhsi + feeb
unironically the hardest boss in 1.1
rotund drum
having 3 support wont either lol
rotund drum
they dont have any better dps either
neat robin
You need 3 dps, 3 sdps/buffer, 2 healers/buffers
tired zodiac
they dont have any better dps either
they have jinxi
rotund drum
you can run cope 4*s or jiyan for 1-3
neat robin
If you need a 3rd healer for floor 1 on side towers you wont be going into middle anyways
tired zodiac
You need 3 dps, 3 sdps/buffer, 2 healers/buffers
this
rotund drum
feeb for f4s and jinhsi for f5
ez
and just skip if you get aix since its only 50 primos anyway
tired zodiac
a well built jiyan can still clear current toa
neat robin
All the dps can clear it
knotty fiber
case in point: mine
rotund drum
i highly doubt his jiyan is well built
tired zodiac
i highly doubt his jiyan is well built
thats solvable issue
neat robin
That doesnt make jiyan himself bad
neat robin
Ah yeah lemme pull out the wallet for echos
You have strange and stupid takes sometimes
tired zodiac
id rather priorotize in getting sk first. then go for a dps, build the 4 star supports and verina. get two good working teams and then go for the third dps
rotund drum
he obv hasnt been playing since at least 2024 so he probably doesnt have the big pile of free leveling mats we got towards the end of it
he would need to grind everything from scratch
thats at least a couple months worth of resin
tired zodiac
yeah with money
you dont need money, just farm dawg
rotund drum
which means he'll probably have to swipe for refreshes
neat robin
Do you know what patience means
tired zodiac
Do you know what patience means
bro thinks they want to clear current toa lol
rotund drum
he's asking whether he should pull on upcoming banner so i assume he doesnt want to wait 3 months to clear toa
neat robin
You dont have to buy your way into clearing tower early, its only once a month now
As long as you can do new weekly mode & like 21/30* tower you’re fine
rotund drum
if your philosophy is pull all the waifus and dont worry about meta then you arent in discord asking whether to pull
i pulled summer serika in BA even though she sucks
didnt look back
neat robin
Phoebe is fine but has literally one team available rn
Early player? Build dps srover or hrover too. Either is good
rotund drum
anyway whoever asked originally hasnt responded since so he probably went off to pull for feeb
so moot point
tired zodiac
if i were stuck in a situation where i only have Jiyan and Jinxi
i would first build them, build verina and Jianxin(if i do have) or any other second standard (assuming its either chalk or encore) and then mortefi and sanhua
i will save for shorekeeper meanwhile and after i get sk ill either go for carlotta or camm or any other future dpses
we also dont know if they have XLY since he was free
rotund drum
if i were stuck in a situation where i only have Jiyan and Jinxi
i would first b...
that was everyone in 1.1 and what we did was just give jiyan jinhsi sig for f1-3 and used jinhsi for f5
then waited for cammy
no one was wasting resources on jiyan when we were still coping over echo mats
tired zodiac
he's asking whether he should pull on upcoming banner so i assume he doesnt want...
no they are asking if they should coz they probably want to know what these character does and if it helps their current characters
rotund drum
he wants to know if they're good
tired zodiac
no one was wasting resources on jiyan when we were still coping over echo mats
those who had jiyan built him
rotund drum
in case you forgot all the simps were trying to cope with calcharo
no one wanted to build jiyan
tired zodiac
a general person wouldnt just put their characters underleveled
why pull for s2 jiyan if you didnt want him
sounds like a you problem again
tired zodiac
Phoebe is fine but has literally one team available rn
Early player? Build dps s...
yes hrover is good. they really need a support than a dedicated dps rn.
pff
tired zodiac
Jiyan is enough to clear current TOA if you have him build. Jinxi can clear it easily so you can give your more better supports to JIyan to carry him rn. You can also build HRover to be a burst dps. getting another dps would just be too low supports
rotund drum
on the plus side i got like 5 5*s while trying to get danjin
on the minus side they were mostly lingyang and jiyan
and i didnt get danjin lmao
tired zodiac
jiyan isnt overly powercreeped
rotund drum
anyway i did try to build jiyan a bit to get some TOA clears but he's really not that good
neat robin
Oh fun theres the hecate holo
rotund drum
you really have to hyperinvest with him
iirc mine is like lv70 and he cant even clear f3
neat robin
Jiyan is good, its consistency. Not nuke dmg like hsi or carlotta
tired zodiac
iirc mine is like lv70 and he cant even clear f3
no wonder why
rotund drum
high cons lingyang or calcharo are ok too iirc
jiyan being limited means he's stuck at 1.0 s0 powerlevels forever
neat robin
anke is better iirc
You dont remember right
tired zodiac
jiyan has a dps of 30k in single target
jinxi has 40k
currently thats not a huge diff
maybe in the future
its only slightly worse than camm
without considering roccia
rotund drum
"only"
rotund drum
where are you pulling these numbers from
tired zodiac
prywden
tired zodiac
if you dont consider roccia both have the same amount of supports
maybe try maxing him before saying it
rotund drum
if you want to go with prydwen they have him low tier lmao
same tier as anke and the other guy even lmao
so that kinda defeats your whole point
tired zodiac
tired zodiac
if you want to go with prydwen they have him low tier lmao
and? i never said hes better, i said hes still good
rotund drum
yeah there are vids of people soloing with youhu too
tired zodiac
yeah there are vids of people soloing with youhu too
then the scaling of dps doesnt matter rn
as said before
jiyan is good for now
focus on supports
if you dont like him just say so, dont put your bias on an advice
rotund drum
boresleeper is fine if you need the healing but skipping a dps so you can use her with jiyan is just lol
tired zodiac
boresleeper is fine if you need the healing but skipping a dps so you can use he...
and a person with 2 current dps without support is going to make you clear toa easily?
rotund drum
yes
tired zodiac
no they are not
rotund drum
if you have to choose between a char that does 100 dps with no support and a char that does 10 dps with +12% from the support
the former is gonna do more lmao
tired zodiac
and its not to "use her with jiyan" its to use her with any upcoming characters you are going to pull
rotund drum
boresleeper buff isnt even that good
rotund drum
the important thing is to have the matching amp and/or anything else specific to the char's gimmick
coords for jinhsi and frazzle for feeb etc
rotund drum
instead of stuggling on three dps and 4 star supports
instead he will have 2 dps and 4 star supports and a healer
tired zodiac
if you have to choose between a char that does 100 dps with no support and a cha...
more like 40 dps with no support and 30 dps with a +12 and healing for a support
yes
tired zodiac
instead he will have 2 dps and 4 star supports and a healer
thats not enough unless you have no skill issue
rotund drum
30 x 1.12 is still less than 40 lol
if he wants the healing so he can afkmash thats a different story
but pretending that shorekeeper's crit buff makes any kind of difference is just cope
tired zodiac
30 x 1.12 is still less than 40 lol
you can use the support again
in any future dps
rotund drum
its 12% crit rate lmao
tired zodiac
but pretending that shorekeeper's crit buff makes any kind of difference is just...
shorekeepers universality does
tired zodiac
its 12% crit rate lmao
and 25 crit dmg
rotund drum
thats like one good CR roll
tired zodiac
do you have her?
tired zodiac
12.5 crit rate and 25 crit dmg
rotund drum
idk why you're trying so hard to shill a healer
tired zodiac
and a guaranteed save
rotund drum
if you dont like feeb just say so
tired zodiac
from a fatal flow
tired zodiac
idk why you're trying so hard to shill a healer
idk why youre putting her down just because you dont like her
rotund drum
she literally has exactly the same kit as verina except she gives a bit of extra crit
tired zodiac
no
rotund drum
you were calling her a broken support lmao
tired zodiac
as of now she is
rotund drum
she has exactly the same kit as a standard 5* except with one additional buff on ult
tired zodiac
compared to verina, shes easier to use, she has 12 crit rate bonus, 25 crit dmg bonus and lets you survive.
tired zodiac
it is
rotund drum
thats like saying huohuo is the most broken support since she has a buff on her ult
tired zodiac
xilonen is broken
i dont play hsr
and yes xilonen is only of the most broken supports
other than for dendro and anemo teams
neat robin
I’m losing braincells with simps lack of logic
rotund drum
xilonen if instead of a res down she just had a heal and a 12% crit rate buff yeah
tired zodiac
and 12 crit rate and 25 crit dmg is a substantial increase since you need a healer anyways.
neat robin
Wont even build chars, says they’re shit
says skeeper is a skip (shes bis for almost every team)
tired zodiac
Wont even build chars, says they’re shit
says skeeper is a skip (shes bis for al...
what did you expect from a danjin main
rotund drum
yeah she fits in the healer slot lmao
and she is a skip if you dont have dps
what is this even
are you gonna run 3 supports
neat robin
They have dps
tired zodiac
and she is a skip if you dont have dps
they have two dpses
and havoc rover
are you restarted?
or do you just hate jiyan and shorekeeper
just think about it
neat robin
He hates everybody
rotund drum
he has one dps
neat robin
Anyways I’m leaving before I lose more braincells
rotund drum
who can go with verina and not lose out on that much actual dps
tired zodiac
genuinely, just dont give advice if you cant keep your bias or a general perspective in mind
rotund drum
shorekeeper is fine if you want to be "future proof" but she will likely get crept anyway
by the time he gets enough other chars that it matters
this is like those star fail threads on reddit that are like
tired zodiac
he has one dps
he has jiyan, jinxi and hrover who are usable for now. if youhu can clear toa so can they
rotund drum
"guys i pulled all the top tier chars but i cant even beat this story boss"
then you look at their team and its like
silver wolf bronya luocha jingyuan
and you're like where's your dps
and they're like whats a dps
rotund drum
ok bye
tired zodiac
its like talking to a danjin main
"whats getting hit? i dont get hit so shes shit anyways"
rotund drum
iirc if you didnt get hit she was one of the best 1.0 dps
gl not getting hit with this game's hit detection though
tired zodiac
exactly why healers are needed
and more buff and universal your healer is the better in the long run
bye im leaving
rotund drum
i never said getting boresleeper for the healers was a bad idea
doesnt change the fact that he still needs a dps though
tired zodiac
if youhu can clear toa then you dont need a dps rn
just build youhu
ez
heals and deals
kekw
rotund drum
if you hyperinvest yeah
tired zodiac
sure
rotund drum
people have the weird issue where they see a hyperinvest meme vid and are like
tired zodiac
youre right
rotund drum
oh this guy did it so anyone can
like if it was that easy why didnt they do it
the answer is because its not lol
tired zodiac
people have the weird issue where they see a hyperinvest meme vid and are like
my friend with an ok jiyan build is able to 36 star toa
its not hyperinvested
its on the good side ofc
rotund drum
i remember the guy in the other channel for 💤 was saving for qingyi or jane
tired zodiac
but not a max built one
rotund drum
i forget who
so he didnt pull 1.0 at all so the only dps he had was billy
so he hyperinvested billy and cleared shiyu with him
tired zodiac
again i dont understand hsr
rotund drum
and everyone was going "omg shiyu is clearable with billy so ez"
but it was actually just because he didnt spend any resources on anyone else
tired zodiac
jiyan with a good build is enough to easily clear toa
you dont have to hyperinvest in him
theres something called patience
rotund drum
time is money in gacha games
literally in some cases
if you're gonna spend a ton of resources on a mid tier char to achieve the same results as a top tier
might as well just get the top tier and spend the same resources
tired zodiac
time is money in gacha games
you are not going to clear toa just coz you got one extra dps lilbro
uneven flame
Youhu needs an R5 sig to clear ToA like that is some whale invest. Jiyan issue would be the same as everyone else which would be echoes and at least the standard banner weapon (sig would make it much easier)
tired zodiac
no point in argueing
the person is so blind that he thinks only the top meta dps is needed to pull
which is such a blind way of seeing things
rotund drum
the person is so blind that he thinks only the top meta dps is needed to pull
feeb srover verina
will outdps jiyan mort boresleeper by a mile
for the same number of 5* pulls
tired zodiac
will outdps jiyan mort boresleeper by a mile
good one team
rotund drum
and feeb doesnt even have her dedicated 5* support yet so she'll just get better
tired zodiac
tell me two more teams rn
rotund drum
while jiyan will just creep further and further into 1.0
tired zodiac
jinhsi yuanwu youhu
ew you gotta invest in yuanwu?
also
they dont have youhu
clearly
go on
rotund drum
ew you gotta invest in yuanwu?
you put hp echoes on him and press E and swap
he doesnt do damage anyway
tired zodiac
jiyan mort baizhi
ok that works
rotund drum
just needs to not die in the one second he's onfield
technically having def makes his s5 shield a bit better but w/e
tired zodiac
and investing in srover, pheoble, yuanwu, and baizhi(lets assume jiyan, mort, verina are built)
is not gonna take a while?
rotund drum
why are you assuming mort is built
srover doesnt need to be built either
just needs to press ult lol
tired zodiac
why are you assuming mort is built
because he was one of the only good supports in 1,0
rotund drum
so was yuanwu but sure lets go with that
tired zodiac
just needs to press ult lol
and you expect to clear abyss with pheeb alone?
rotund drum
yeah thats how dps works
maxing your rover might help if you're cutting it really close
but he really doesnt do that much damage
he's literally a frazzlebot
maxing yuanwu probably adds more total damage actually
not that it matters in either case
incidentally you can have srover/yuanwu hold cruisewing or the other new healing echo if you're worried about it
tired zodiac
sure lets partially invest in 5 extra characters and build two characters very well instead of just skipping 300 astrites (3 months) and going for a better support which can let you go for a better dps
literally, focus on two teams to get 24 stars first
its not easy
tired zodiac
without good supports
rotund drum
yeah
boresleeper is not gonna be the diff between 24 stars and however much you envision him getting without her lol
i dont even use a healer on jinhsi comp
i just use cruisewing yuanwu
rotund drum
i literally tank everything
its not a skill issue
its just that the buff isnt necessary and you dont get extra points for clearing in 10 seconds vs 100
tired zodiac
boresleeper is not gonna be the diff between 24 stars and however much you envis...
youre only going to get 24 stars either way
but you atleast have a universally good character since you can get a dps anytime
rotund drum
you're better off having two strong dps who can clear their respective floors rathe than trying to minmax one team with a 12% crit buff lmao
tired zodiac
its just that the buff isnt necessary and you dont get extra points for clearing...
you do get points if you dont clear it within 180
rotund drum
you knwo boresleepr is a 1.x char right
tired zodiac
and?
rotund drum
she's much more likely to be crept a lot sooner than feeb
tired zodiac
you know jinxi is as well right?
rotund drum
this is like the "silver wolf is futureproof" argument
rotund drum
meanwhile one year later silver wolf is so bad that hoyo had to announce they were buffing her
hoyo never buffs chars
thats how crept sw is
tired zodiac
shorekeeper is not futureproof but will not be unusable anytime soon
shes a better verina in all sense
same goes for pheebs
but she might be powercrept by another dps
doesnt make her bad
rotund drum
she will be
then we'll get that other dps
thats how gacha works
pulling a char you dont need because "she's futureproof" almost never pays off
tired zodiac
well then go for a universal support then pull dps
then go for specific supports
like roccia brant etc
rotund drum
the "universal" support will be crept while you're waiting for a dps to use her with
you can have 90% of a good dps without a support or 0% of one with a support
tired zodiac
the "universal" support will be crept while you're waiting for a dps to use her ...
not really, even if theres a better support, you still need 3 different teams
rotund drum
anyway in case you havent noticed kusogames doesnt do supports
roccia's team buff is literally 200 attack lmao
we're not gonna get any hsr/zzz tier buffer anytime soon
who just fits into every comp
rotund drum
yeah cause they heal
tired zodiac
and they do have support capabilitu
rotund drum
boresleeper is literally just verina with one extra crit buff
tired zodiac
not just heal
tired zodiac
boresleeper is literally just verina with one extra crit buff
two extra crit buff and a guaranteed fatal blow escape with full heal
rotund drum
baizhi's ult technically counts as a coord for jinhsi's thing i guess
she doesnt do anything other than heal though
tired zodiac
its like c6 barbara
tired zodiac
baizhi's ult technically counts as a coord for jinhsi's thing i guess
yeah i didnt want to include her in there but she works if you dont have sk or verina since rg has buffs
rotund drum
anyway lets just agree that if he's dying and needs another healer and doesnt have enough gems for both he can wait for boresleeper
otherwise he should get the dps and finish out his teams
and maybe try for boresleeper later and if he doesnt get her nbd
tired zodiac
anyway lets just agree that if he's dying and needs another healer and doesnt ha...
its generally better to build jiyan, jinxi, mortefi and verina first and go for sk then go for dps
since building them takes time
this guarantees you two good teams
which will be usable for a few while
then go for another dps once you have two good teams
rotund drum
even if we go with the premise that jiyan is still usable he's literally on the border of being crept out completely
opaque flume
she doesnt do anything other than heal though
I think she has a buff
rotund drum
so even if he builds him now and then builds a third dps later
by that time he'll still only have 2 good teams
tired zodiac
even if we go with the premise that jiyan is still usable he's literally on the ...
if by your arguement a youhu can clear toa, jiyan wont be crept enough to not clear toa soon enough in the next 3 patches
dw
rotund drum
he absolutely will be but ok lol
tired zodiac
lets see
rotund drum
sure
https://x.com/MythusStar/status/1863911633401360438 this happened in genshit too
X
💤 is still relatively early but it'll happen there too
if you think it wont happen in stuwa i got a bridge to sell you
tired zodiac
if this jiyan can clear toa with just sk and mortefi in exactly 1 minute then a well enough built jiyan can survive a few more patches
again, this is a boss one
rotund drum
dont shill him then
tired zodiac
i didnt
dont fucking throw him away
is all i said
"he's usable"
is all i said
rotund drum
dont buy him either
rotund drum
or build him
knotty fiber
is all i said
Imagine wasting your time for the no1 Jiyan hater in this server
Couldn't be me
tired zodiac
he can be used for a few more patches
knotty fiber
rotund drum
hyperinvesting a 1.0 for the same amount of resources you could have spent just building a 2.1 only to have him be crept in 3 patches is just bad advice
if it was calcharo or lingyang would you be singing the same tune
rotund drum
i bet i can find a vid of someone killing whatever boss with lingyang
tired zodiac
if it was calcharo or lingyang would you be singing the same tune
clacharo is still usable as well
i wouldnt go for liangyang
rotund drum
yeah doesnt make him good
rotund drum
usable aint gonna cut it
tired zodiac
im leaving
tired zodiac
usable aint gonna cut it
usable until you get good supports for your next dps
knotty fiber
See I warned you and you still
rotund drum
or just get the next dps then get the supports
tired zodiac
if youre gonna get another dps coz it got powercrept anyways
knotty fiber
rotund drum
there's a 4* option for most dps
tired zodiac
how is this any different
rotund drum
there isnt a 4* dps for most supports though
lyric fjord
If a char is enjoyable and can clear stuff for a year, its worth investing imo.
knotty fiber
Time to download the game on my iPad because I wanna do story but lazy to sit in front of my pc
tired zodiac
argues a dps will be powercrept
says you should just pull for the next dps when it comes to it
says its not worth inversting since they will be powercrept anyways
says a support is not worth a dps
knotty fiber
Zzzz just drop it already
quasi sable
Should I 10/10 my talents
tired zodiac
tired zodiac
Should I 10/10 my talents
on who
quasi sable
And I mean my dpses
rotund drum
even if we work with the assumption that jiyan is good enough
if he gets feeb then he'll have 3 good teams
if gets boresleeper he'll have 2 teams and a healer
knotty fiber
Hopefully Thyia will be playable in the tiny form
tired zodiac
And I mean my dpses
depends on what talent ig?
knotty fiber
:hertasip:
quasi sable
My dps already 8/9/9/9/8 rn
rotund drum
just max them all its not like theres anything else to spend resin on after a year tbh
quasi sable
So should I triple of them
rotund drum
you appreciate hoyo relic grind after a while of doing tacet field for 20 generic tuner things each time
you realize you're actually getting things
tired zodiac
My dps already 8/9/9/9/8 rn
which character?
quasi sable
Most dps dont need you to level their basics either
Yeah that was my mistake
rotund drum
rather than just stockpiling mats that you probably wont use for months
quasi sable
Carlo, Cammy, Xy
lyric fjord
you appreciate hoyo relic grind after a while of doing tacet field for 20 generi...
What on earth? Echos grinding is a breeze compared to hsr or genshin
Do you make a living out of your shit takes ?
rotund drum
yeah then you just do tacet field for no reason other than because there's nothing else
rotund drum
i didnt even bother spending resin for like two months after i finished with cammy since the game was pretty much dead until 2.0
barely even felt it
rotund drum
i had enough tuners for all the new 2.0 stuff
tired zodiac
Do you make a living out of your shit takes ?
i laughed so hard
quasi sable
Cuz my Carlotta pieces are shit tn
rotund drum
i could have stockpiled a few hundred more but i wouldnt even have done anything with them
and i probably wont with the ones i have left over now till 3.0
theres no sense of progression as a result
tired zodiac
Cuz my Carlotta pieces are shit tn
spend those resin stuff on her tacet field ig
if you still have not explored rinascita farm the echoes you need while exploring
quasi sable
if you still have not explored rinascita farm the echoes you need while explorin...
Well I have to farm the overworld echoes first
What am I missing is
3 cost atk
neat robin
Holy shit is he still going
Pls tell me its safe to come back
I’m at 155 pulls in for brant (and on guaranteed) 100% getting him even if I hit hard pity on both
vapid river
if this jiyan can clear toa with just sk and mortefi in exactly 1 minute then a ...
just get s4-s6 
rotund drum
Holy shit is he still going
i went to take a shower but im back now
neat robin
Such a funny thing
I’m assuming they give us the skin for it too like the cat sword
lament shuttle
did live stream say reruns
lament shuttle
changli with brant 2nd phase
oh wow hmm idk if i want her lol
neat robin
I guess sk will rerun in 2.2
Kinda makes sense, they can sell the 2 healers in one patch and (maybe) wont have phro & camy competing
cobalt apex
idk if i should pull anyone rn
lament shuttle
i only want camellya i guess atp
neat robin
I have enough teams so I dont need to care for a while
It feels nice
cobalt apex
i have a grand total of 1 team
neat robin
Realistically you can scrape by with 2 teams, missing middle tower is like half a pull
Brant and cantarella are basically just ‘i want’ pulls for me
Tho at least if canta is coord she can help hsi… I just like her
uneven flame
2 teams covers middle tower and the last floor of both towers so that is enough to get by without sweating or being good at the game. Just raise a decent solo character like Chixia/Yangyang or HMC/SMC for 1-3 on each side.
neat robin
Oh no
I saw a guide that said phoebe-sanhua-healer
Pls
Spectro rover is right there dont bring sanhua
knotty fiber
I don't know how they're gonna maintain frazzle without Srover
edgy cobalt
no perms
edgy cobalt
only hsr chat
cobalt apex
yea unfortunate
knotty fiber
oh
right
oh muted?
I don't have perms to delete text here either
only in #・50k-basement
cobalt apex
cooked
knotty fiber
wind flint
Why'd the bot have to be down😭
cobalt apex
nobody has perms 🔥
wind flint
I pinged a FG and they also said they had no perm
yeah, we don't have jurisdiction in tc
neat robin
Dont click on sus links
Hey is the stepleaker guy usually pretty accurate on design leaks
Like is this real?
neat robin
Cool i wasnt sure if someone had just expanded the profile art we’d had before
knotty fiber
Like is this real?
see, thing is he alr got the art before
but the art he gave us a month ago was
blurred as shit
neat robin
It also wasnt full body
Or I never saw it before
Just shoulders up (and blurry yeah)
knotty fiber
it wasn't yes
rotund drum
they probably watermark or pixel the leaks to catch the leakers
cobalt apex
blurred as shit
rotund drum
the leaker cabal got mad at that russian guy too
wind flint
I don't have perms to delete text here either
have you tried pinging a tc mod
knotty fiber
~~have you tried pinging a tc mod~~
I tried pinging a random one I see on my right but there's no tc mod online
vapid river
ac1d delete this shit
wind flint
If the bot was up, I could've wiped out these bot messages
knotty fiber
deadge
wind flint
could leifa or any fas do it?
Not sure
vapid river
legit dunno why yall can't just have message perms for the whole server
wind flint
probably?
wind flint
legit dunno why yall can't just have message perms for the whole server
Originally we did
wind flint
is it hu tao's fault?
most of the command in the entire server really depend on her
@odd stirrup
odd stirrup
Say what
vapid river
ban this fool
wind flint
Hu tao bot is down
odd stirrup
Oh
wind flint
it's banned, the message remained ig
vapid river
oh