・wuwa-lounge

[vapid river]

wack

they're different birds

[knotty fiber]

lmao what

[delicate skiff]

Crows are the cute ones

[vapid river]

crows and ravens aren't the same bird

[neat robin]

Ravens and crows

[knotty fiber]

I'm saying

that name is literally crow plume

lol

[vapid river]

that emote

is a crow

you said it's fitting b/c it's named raven

but it's not b/c it's a crow

but it is b/c it's actually named crow

[knotty fiber]

you can't read?

we call it ravenplume because it sounds cooler than crow plume

[vapid river]

this

[knotty fiber]

I literally gave you the name

[vapid river]

i know you did

[knotty fiber]

and weebsplained it twice

[delicate skiff]

[vapid river]

idk what your hiccup is

[knotty fiber]

[vapid river]

i'm saying you can't call a crow a raven

they're different birds

it's not fitting in the way you originally said

[knotty fiber]

they look similar that's enough for US to call them the same thing

[vapid river]

before you shared that it's actually called crow plume

I'M FROM THE US

I DON'T CALL THEM THE SAME

[cobalt apex]

raven

[vapid river]

what's rococo's rotation supposed to look like?

b/c it feels fine just

intro
res skill
jump 3x
ult
echo/outro

or just outro

idk if echo is even needed

also

what

ah, ig the "shortened" rot on prydwen has one less basic

[delicate skiff]

[dusty crown]

uh, they're moving hazaard zone to monthly 🤮

[wraith steeple]

oh damn

[neat robin]

Ew where they said that?

[dusty crown]

confirmed in a game memo

[neat robin]

Its like the only thing to do in 2nd halves

[dusty crown]

they're introducing that new weekly game mode

which i've heard about from leaks but still have no idea exactly what it is

[neat robin]

So
Rewards are increased or same as current but only once a month

[neat robin]

Its something like the illusive realm mode

[dusty crown]

i assume they'll at least stay the same

[neat robin]

Kinda gross but as long as the weekly mode covers any lost astrites I’m fine

[wraith steeple]

real

[dusty crown]

isn't illusive realm supposed to be recurring tho

[neat robin]

‘Kill x boss in this short time’ is kinda overdone anyways

[dusty crown]

or are they gonna completely ditch it

[neat robin]

No its uh

Lemme search it

[dusty crown]

it's like the best game mode in this game

no idea why it gets so much hate 😭

[neat robin]

Did not take long lol

Ok
How many astrites is tower again?

[quasi sable]

My acc rn has 3 teams
Carlo lumi baizhi
Camy verina sanhua
Xy yinlin jianxhin

My plans : Sk, Phoebe, Zani, Zhezhi

Is there anything else I should add here

[neat robin]

Skeeper is your biggest one

[dusty crown]

700 i think

[neat robin]

If lumi is working out fine ig, but carlotta really likes zhezhi

[quasi sable]

Yeah I didn't get chance to pull her
I will one day

[wraith steeple]

sk will be a fat comfy upgrade

srsly

[quasi sable]

What about my teams

[wraith steeple]

oh

[quasi sable]

Are they good for towers rn

[neat robin]

So 640 for the 4 weekly clears

• one tower clear

The pincer crap is per patch indtead of per month I think?
Idk I always forget it exists

[dusty crown]

what was hazard zone's reset frequency

14 days ?

[wraith steeple]

the jianxhin one is interesting

yeah

14 days

[quasi sable]

Wym

[wraith steeple]

ig that would be the only other person for that

[dusty crown]

so if it's 160/week from the new event we're losing 60 astrites per 4 weeks ?!?!

[wraith steeple]

oh

thats not bad

[neat robin]

1/3 of a pull

[dusty crown]

STILL A LOSS

and will we be able to share weapons and echos in that new mode or not

[neat robin]

Id doubt it

[dusty crown]

because it might be harder than ToA, more time consuming, and all that for less rewards

[neat robin]

If it follows realm rules with just one team

[dusty crown]

yeah i asked that in the sense : is it just a one team thing or multiple team like toa

[knotty fiber]

it's Illusive realm

no dual comp afaik

except this time you're allowed to use all 3 characters

instead of 1

[neat robin]

It says choose 3 resonators
Can use waveplates to claim rewards
scales on world level

[dusty crown]

so

that's another catch

you need to use waveplates 😭

[neat robin]

Wait ew I’m hoping its just the bonus echo things and you can skip over

[dusty crown]

hopefully

[neat robin]

Otherwise spam the survey about its bad and waste of time & stamina

They do a decent job at listening to players

[knotty fiber]

You don't know how IR works don't you

[quasi sable]

What's the duration of tower

I mean how often do they reset

[knotty fiber]

the waveplate thing is optional

you clear IR to get the points

and reaching certain milestones gives you the reward

[dusty crown]

ninja said that there's something about using waveplate to claim rewards, but i guess it's for extra rewards like echoes

[knotty fiber]

to put it blandly it's simulated universe but with the remnant crystals

remnant crystals take 60 waveplates to open

gives same rewards as tacet field

[neat robin]

Except random

echos of any set, plus flowers lol

[neat robin]

Tower currently twice per month
Changing to once per month + weekly realm mode

[quasi sable]

I see

Hopefully I can ace it

Cuz my 3rd teams like halfway finish

[neat robin]

Realm gives tons of buffs

Its a typical roguelike mode
clear floor get buffs

[dusty crown]

i hope the buffs that change how character kits work won't disappear

that's like the one thing that makes the current one fun

[quasi sable]

Do you guys use crystal solvent often?

[wraith steeple]

yes

because you get it alot and plus ion have need to hold on to it

[opaque flume]

No

[edgy cobalt]

I only refill if I need to build someone quickly

[lyric fjord]

only for boss materials right after pulling some char

[warped willow]

Where shorekeeper

[lament shuttle]

Shores not black enough

[burnt shoal]

omg

wuwa new years

[burnt shoal]

https://vxtwitter.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/1885097932636008515

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/jinshi-jinxi-wuwa-wuwa-jinxi-jinxi-wuwa-gif-6888474920101217135

[hollow gorge]

Huh, unique Pangu Terminal for their faction. Which means the initial plan was for them to be playable eventually

[thorn brook]

I mean they're probably going to be playable eventually
At least the overseers are at least

[rotund drum]

fatui but red

[lament shuttle]

[ WW Cantarella - 2.2 ]

Her skills are jellyfish inspired and utilizes a jellyfish umbrella.
In one skill she jumps in air using umbrella, then floats on jellyfish.

Via StepLeaks

[lilac hare]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-genshin-impact-kokomi-mimi-gif-22452585

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/kokomi-kokomi-genshin-kokomi-jellyfish-jellyfish-childe-gif-24097686

[rotund drum]

original character do not steal

[delicate lance]

is this a time limit to do the hologram or just a time limit for this "ad" for the hologram?

https://i.imgur.com/J4XFTuR.png

[vapid river]

i'm not clicking that link

[lament shuttle]

https://i.imgur.com/J4XFTuR.png

[lament shuttle]

It just doesn’t embed cuz p1

[vapid river]

i just don't trust pinkies

[delicate lance]

so.. what is that a time limit for?

[lament shuttle]

It’s as you said the “ad”

Those rewards don’t go away

[neat robin]

I found the crazy guy again

Changli XY Carlotta qs

[quasi sable]

If she heals, then Italian kokomi fr

[neat robin]

Coord + healer as of current

[vapid river]

fully buffed

[dusty crown]

would be great if i can finally ditch verina in hsi teams

but she'll need to be quite good for that to happen

hope she's a healer with somewhat strong coords

[knotty fiber]

she doesn't need strong coord

just consistent coord is good enough

because Verina has the biggest issue

same element

[neat robin]

Just consistent & long duration

[knotty fiber]

and very short duration yes

[vapid river]

zz be like

[neat robin]

Can then go hsi canta yuanwu/srover even with their spectro shred

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

the nerd is not a healer

[vapid river]

shh

she's coord

[neat robin]

Zz is also occupied by lotta tho

[knotty fiber]

therefore doesn't belong in the convo

[vapid river]

that's all jinhsi needs

why heal? just don't get hit and nuke

[knotty fiber]

does she have swappable outro?

[vapid river]

shh

[knotty fiber]

next

[vapid river]

do you have swappable outro

[kind tinsel]

Is Youhu an improvement over Baizhi in teams with coord attack subdps?

[vapid river]

[kind tinsel]

idk if her field time is too long

[vapid river]

i hate youhu

[dusty crown]

i hope

[vapid river]

she feels bad to play

[dusty crown]

consistent strong coords but not madlad buffs

[vapid river]

but compared to baizhi? i'd stick with baizhi

[knotty fiber]

Baizhi is not that bad to play

she's good and all

just not as comfy as Verina

speaking of which

I still don't have her S2

funny

[neat robin]

Baizhi is ass to play

[vapid river]

not having verina s2 is okay

imagine getting verina cons

couldn't be me

[neat robin]

I still have s1 verina

I keep getting calcharo

[kind tinsel]

But if I can put up with Youhu's gameplay, is she actually an improvement in those teams?

Also what if I don't bother to pick up Baizhi's atk buff drop?

[knotty fiber]

so far there hasn't been any coord user with big dmg compared to the dps

idk, viable in Klt Zz comp I guess

with Zz bringing Hecate empy

[kind tinsel]

I might build that then so I can give ZZ's Moonlit set to Sanhua full time

since new endgame needs echo sets for everyone you use iirc

[dusty crown]

but from what i understood it's just a one team thing ?

[kind tinsel]

Oh it is? I thought it was 2 at least

[dusty crown]

i dunno

[vapid river]

honestly idt switching youhu for baizhi or vice versa is going to matter

aside from their respective outro buffs they're bringing the same echo buffs yeah?

[kind tinsel]

yeah

[vapid river]

yeah youhu increased coords dmg

[kind tinsel]

Baizhi's outro is way worse on ZZ or Mortefi though

[vapid river]

baizhi is 15% all-type dmg deepen

for 6s

[kind tinsel]

And I don't bother picking up her drop that gives atk buff

[vapid river]

yeah but if you're relying on mort coord dmg

or zz coord dmg

to clear something

you have other issues

[neat robin]

I hate having to get baizhi enough concerto to actually outro

[knotty fiber]

you

don't use her outro on sdps

is the thing

[vapid river]

also, you realistically only need 2 healers for tower anyway

just pick up skeeper if you don't have her

on her rerun

[kind tinsel]

If I'm using her in those teams, I'd much rather ZZ or Mortefi outro into my DPS than Baizhi

I have Skeeper but I run 3 healers in tower because I have skill issue

[vapid river]

???

you can't 2 man the first three floors on left and right side?

or solo

[kind tinsel]

More comfy to have a healer just in case for the third floor at least

But usually I just run full teams through the whole way out of habit

[cobalt apex]

i dont have skeeper

[vapid river]

soon

i run carrot 1-3 and 1-2

he now has a jianxin and lumi

just for funsies

[kind tinsel]

Sounds like building Youhu probably isn't worth it though so I'll stick with Baizhi

[neat robin]

I just need to see what cantarella does

Pls

Pastel, umbrella, jellyfish, coords?? Sounds good

[vapid river]

pastel?

oh she's the blurry lady

with purple hair

[rotund drum]

youhu isnt actually that bad, its just that her ult takes like ten years to animate

if its just for occasional abyss runs though its probably fine

[neat robin]

Not even
Just for panic heal, its on her skill

Dont really need her anyways in 1-3

[vapid river]

they said they were skill issued and preferred having a healer for the whole thing

[quasi sable]

Then yeah
We have mommy Italian kokomi

[burnt shoal]

i still don't understand how youhu ult works

[rotund drum]

its just her skill but you can pick the item you get

but you dont care because they all suck anyway

its just an unnecessarily long animation just for a small heal and a bit of concerto

[warped willow]

we up

[wheat moon]

W

[warped willow]

49/320

with sk+rc2 that’ll be a lot more

[neat robin]

.. on who?

That rider is really only for encore

[warped willow]

cl?

mogger?

[hollow gorge]

Nightmare rider for CL

[hollow gorge]

Ngl you probably want nightmare on encore too, to not lose time for transformation

Though the diff is likely less than 3%

[dapper oar]

i had similar piece for changli but on nightmare but I can't get a single crit rate 4c so I'm running her with 54/324 i don't have her rc2

[warped willow]

what’s the difference 😭

[neat robin]

Basic buff on normal (you have to use the echo), skill buff on nightmare rider (passive buff)

[warped willow]

i didn’t even know of this this echoes existence

Fak

ill grind when I get back from Phan Thiet

[limber imp]

When 2.1

[limber imp]

Wait it’s a passive buff?

Ur saying I’ve been using that stupid thing for no reason

[warped willow]

oh my god

[vapid river]

the top one is the nightmare

[warped willow]

[vapid river]

the bottom is the normal

[limber imp]

Oh…

Also when is 2.1?

[vapid river]

you have to wait for the last hit to get the buff on the bottom

[warped willow]

IN 30 MINUTES!!!!

[limber imp]

Also will cartethiya be playable

[neat robin]

Yes currently aero & 2.4 iirc
All stc of course

[limber imp]

Alr time to save for her after Brant ig

[warped willow]

you going for Brant?

[vapid river]

c2 camy with rococo be like

[limber imp]

Yep

I need my Changli BiS

And my pirate

[warped willow]

Shorekeeper rc6

[limber imp]

My highest damage is 100k…

[warped willow]

F2P

Trust

[limber imp]

😭

[limber imp]

Ur name fits u…

[vapid river]

when my lotta's ult dmg is added up it's typically over 2mil

[warped willow]

Which one

[vapid river]

the initial hit + 4 autos + last hit

[limber imp]

The dream part

[warped willow]

I forgot to change it

[limber imp]

Oop

[vapid river]

i think they're saying you need to wake up

[warped willow]

Trust.

[limber imp]

Damn

[warped willow]

I’ll see you in 3 years

[limber imp]

Highest damage being 100k is such a Changli main moment tho😭

I gotta build xiangli yao

[warped willow]

xy so nice.

i feel like pucci

how do I start building Carlotta btw

[neat robin]

Theres 11 days left on 2.0

[keen jackal]

i dont like this game no more

[vapid river]

it's only the level 80

and you're trying to solo?

[keen jackal]

yea im trying to practice my solo danjin

and i havent done fallacy holo yet so i decided to practice on this

[neat robin]

Fallacy a bitch

I’m stuck on the 6th one

[keen jackal]

swear he has a new attack everytime he feels like it

[neat robin]

Entire s3 carla rot only takes half of lv105 fallacys hp

[keen jackal]

i just got a hammer slam attack earlier i never got till then

[vapid river]

how????

like solo or no hit run?

s6 lotta is too strong

[neat robin]

It hits for 22k, I have to play no-hit for zz/carlo

[vapid river]

ah

fair

if i could loan out my lotta i would

maybe that becomes a thing later?

[edgy cobalt]

was gonna say something but I forgot you're ipad gaming so I'll let you off easy

[neat robin]

I mean it’ll only take 2 rots

But I literally cant get hit

[vapid river]

so just don't get hit

[edgy cobalt]

yeah so it should be easy

[neat robin]

And its unfortunately blue attacks with a blue arena I cant see a lot

[edgy cobalt]

in fact I think its the easiest holo boss mainly because we have built units by now

[neat robin]

Mephis was easiest cuz drowning

I think they patched it tho

[edgy cobalt]

yeah like a day after it was discovered

I cleared it legit cuz I don't wanna be lame

[neat robin]

I need to learn sentry attacks, I havent actually tried the 6th yet

[vapid river]

crazy

did them all pretty much when it came out

[edgy cobalt]

yeah, sentry cool

[knotty fiber]

I hope people are not using Klt for Sentry

[neat robin]

Jinhsi

[dusty crown]

[hollow gorge]

I do, was too lazy to change team. Couldn't do lvl6 tho with Carl

Ngl, I would probably do it if it was s3 Carl, hitting 60k last hit on Sentry is just sad

[dusty crown]

managed to get sentry to ~5% hp left

before launching my hsi nuke thinking it would end it

nope

even though it hit it, 0 damage

and kills my hsi right away (which was low hp and my last alive)

this game is stupid

[opaque flume]

how tf do people beat hold 6 fallacy on phone

ngl

stupid floor stomp bro

why does skeeper get like zero iframes for anything

scam

i have gotten killed during her e twice and during her intro skill like 6 times

[rotund drum]

im trying to clean up some of the nightmares i never did

the monkey is really dumb

i literally cant see whats killing me

oh he's shooting lasers

thats dumb

i dont want to spend hours memorizing every single one of his moves that comes with a one-shot laser

[neat robin]

The hologram?

d6 monkey summons minions randomly that oneshot you yeah
Really hard to see them too

[warped willow]

this will be the first of many failed attempts

[rotund drum]

holograms yeah

i literally did th emonkey like 10 times and even started evading the one-shots

without even seeing them

took me that many tries to even see what was hitting me

i think the problem with a lot of the super high diff stuff in this game is that there's too much clutter on the screen and a lot of attacks dont have obvious hitboxes to boot

like when he does the roar i see the sfx and dodge and then press a button and just die anyway

delayed hitbox or some shit

iirc the first hit of the nightmare crownless has that issue too

he shoots the circle out and you can dodge through it but the actual hitbox is like a full second behind the circle for whatever reason

[lucid pebble]

Do the level 15.

[hollow gorge]

Yeah VFX clutter sucks. Before you could edit engine.ini and fine-tune the amount of VFX

There was a specific option that significantly reduced the amount of VFX particles generated by your own char only

[dusty crown]

FINALLY

[lyric fjord]

GG

[opaque flume]

Congrats vro

[dusty crown]

literally tried for an hour earlier, and now just logged back in and did it on my first try 😭

[delicate skiff]

Not randomly, after two or three specific attacks

[blissful tulip]

Hologram bosses have the exact same moveset in the exact same order

It's not too difficult to memorize once you get a hang of it

[burnt shoal]

https://vxtwitter.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/1885992246455029969

[neat robin]

Just speculation but if cantarellas coord is consistent enough do you think running srover for spec shred might be a better teammate?
Could have rejuv srover, moon canta

[lyric fjord]

Why not verina or sk?

[neat robin]

Srover has spectro shred & can heal for rejuv
Canta has skill outro + coord

Sk is in literally any other team

[lyric fjord]

verina has amp and faster concerto

srover does deal decent dmg tho

[neat robin]

You wouldnt need srover outro
Ult to heal for rejuv, and skill for spectro shred

Just outro canta>jinhsi for moonlit heron & skill outro buff

Verina has rejuv + 15% dmg amp
Srover has rejuv + 10% spectro shred
All hypothetical ofc, until we see what cantarellas kit actually is

[knotty fiber]

Don't forget

Verina has 20% atk up

[neat robin]

I just want an excuse to use srover 😔

The attacks look cool

I know verina gives a little bit of forte to hsi too

[lilac hare]

What 4 cost does phoebe want? Nightmare aix?

[neat robin]

Nm aix is the only boss for that set

I think?

[knotty fiber]

You can use srover if you want but don't gaslight yourself or anyone into thinking they might be a better teammate just because Cantarella might have coord

💀

[neat robin]

I mean technically itd be sk is best (if canta gives enough coord)

Verina s4 also gives spectro% too

Not that I’m anywhere close to that, I dont even have s2

[neat robin]

Do they announce both banners 5*s in their livestreams?
Or just first half?

[lament shuttle]

if its jinhsi hyper then you want 2 coord units so verina or yuanwu on heal sets to go with her. I think the coord attacks are the limiting factor rn

[neat robin]

Zz was so nice, basically solo filled hsi forte 😔

But I’m not taking her away from carlotta I like her more than hsi

[lament shuttle]

even with zz you still dont fill fast enough

with ZZ + verina you still dont atm lol

to be doing E's with full forte off cd

[neat robin]

I’m pretty sure she’s max with zz & veri

[lament shuttle]

it does fill, but your E is already off cd by the time u do the ZZ combo

if we had like

fusion or havoc verina it would be best i think

[neat robin]

Well unless you’re planning to do setup then 2 hsi rot instead of setup, hsi, restart

[lament shuttle]

idk you just need to be able to get 50 stacks every 12 seconds ideally

[neat robin]

You’re limited by hsis timer no?

Isnt it 1 stack per second for each element

[lament shuttle]

1 stack per element but 2 per CA all 3 s cd

So in theory you can get 7 per proc if they were all synchronized

Which takes 22 seconds I think

[neat robin]

Needs her outro

So first rot is 1+2 stacks per 3s (6 stacks if two coord chars/3s)

Second rot on, with hsi’s outro
1 stack per 1s + 2 stacks per 3s (10 stacks if two coords/3s)

[vapid river]

only fucking defense

fucking scam

[lucid pebble]

OnlyDef

[neat robin]

Need double crit crownless for camy

I want to start getting empyrean stuff for yinlin

[vapid river]

i just want to get tuners

fuck giving us +5

have it tuned as well

fs

let me know if it's even worth rolling on

[neat robin]

Feels like db24 should have given that

From 18+ we get nothing, dont we? Like whats the point

Would incentivize killing echos in open world a lot more if you could sacrifice shit for 3 tuners

[lucid pebble]

Most 4-costs are a lot easier to farm than 3-costs and 1-costs.

[vapid river]

if there was a grinder

to throw echoes into

[lucid pebble]

You don't have to go anywhere, the pity is 2, and all of them only drop for their specific set.

[vapid river]

for tuners

holy fuck

[lucid pebble]

I need EXP more than tuners.

[vapid river]

i can't even say whale problems

[neat robin]

I have 200+ gold tubes and 6 tuners rn

[vapid river]

b/c i have the opposite

yeah

i have 9 tuners

and so many tubes

[opaque flume]

how tf do yall not have tuners

i have like 0 xp and tons of tuners

[lucid pebble]

Is it better to be resource-constrained or echo-constrained?

Gold in HSR and Genshin is just a joke at this point.

[opaque flume]

i mean ngl ur always gonna be contrained by something

[vapid river]

same with wuwa

i'm sitting on like 5 mil?

6 mil?

money becomes less of a problem

[opaque flume]

5 dishes fr

[vapid river]

the longer a game goes on

[opaque flume]

[vapid river]

yeah i'm not cooking daily

fuck that

[lucid pebble]

Lore-accurate dating 2nd daughter of the family that owns the biggest bank.

[opaque flume]

dawg why are some dishes legit 200k

😭

[vapid river]

reasons

[opaque flume]

the huanglong inflation is crazy

joe bidens america fr

[neat robin]

If you trash anything thats not good at +10, you save tons of xp

[vapid river]

^

[opaque flume]

i trash them at +15

[lucid pebble]

There's a nonzero chance you tossed a 40+ CV echo, though.

[vapid river]

that's what i do

[opaque flume]

but

ok

[neat robin]

If I see hp/def and a useless dmg sub at +10 its trash

[opaque flume]

i need 3 good rolls

not like

[neat robin]

Best it could go is 3/5 at that point & very expensive

[opaque flume]

2

[vapid river]

yeah i'm legit hunting 4/5 echoes atp

[opaque flume]

idk

[lucid pebble]

I try for 15 to fish for a main dmg + crit.

[vapid river]

if the first two rolls are dogshit

it'sg etting trashed

[neat robin]

If 1/2 at +10 are useful I keep going

[rotund drum]

i usually do 3 lines since xp is easier to get than tuners

you get most of the xp back when you salvage but only 30% of the tuners

[neat robin]

+10, if both bad, trash
1-2 good, go to +15. Bad? Trash. Good? Keep going

[vapid river]

^

yeah

that's about how it goes

[neat robin]

If its double crit I just max it, it’ll be fine til I get a better one

[vapid river]

and recently it's been a lot of shit

[rotund drum]

i'd say 2 rolls, if 2 bad lines in first 2 then just scrap it

if it starts out ok but no crit you can try for crit on third line

if still no crit then just call it there since your odds of getting two crit on the last two lines are super low

[blissful tulip]

To give them credit, they found a way to make SRover very useful

[lament shuttle]

Tower resets today right

[rotund drum]

yesterday

or it already reset today rather i guess

its pyro favored for some reason

getting a head start on brant i guess

i had to bruteforce it with CLT

[edgy cobalt]

encore will easily beat it lol

took 15* seconds longer oh no!

[neat robin]

I think I usually fight scar with yinyao

[edgy cobalt]

you would use them in hazard this time around if you wanna take advantage of the -10% electro res

but clt can still brute force the +10% glacio res

[vapid river]

https://youtu.be/zLle_rDz0Xc?t=4

carlotta on any floor with any buffs/res

[edgy cobalt]

yt short instead of a gif is crazy

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-not-care-juan-gif-22047769

[opaque flume]

Bro wanted to shout out junky cat on yt shorts

[vapid river]

ik you can hear the gif

but i want you to really hear it

[wraith steeple]

ay question

who will be on phoebe banner for 4 stars?

[lament shuttle]

2 PC: Increase HP by 10%.
5 PC: Increase HP by 20% when equipped with a shield. Increase Crit Rate by 5% for 15 seconds when losing HP. This effect can stack up to 3 times and can be triggered once a second

[neat robin]

Unknown yet
Prob will show on the 7th livestream

[neat robin]

This feels like zani set and ive said that since leaks said she’d have a shield

[opaque flume]

Zani is gonna be like pikeli fr

Massive shield and damage

Trust

[dusty crown]

how is phoebe looking compared to hsi

(i know she may not have her dedicated support(s) yet)

[lucid pebble]

I keep forgetting tower resets.

-800 primos.

[wraith steeple]

they look the same to me, as far as dps is concerned but we will have to see them when she arrives atp

[neat robin]

Ew yuanwu is 60/70 now
Got his bigger coord zone

[neat robin]

Why the hell is the hardest thing in this entire tower the triple knights

Ok whatever this is

[rotund drum]

makes more sense to use jinhsi for the -10% spectro res tower and cmly/clt for the 0% havoc/cryo res towers respectively

than jinhsi on the other -10% spectro tower and clt on the +10% cryo res

but whatever works i guess

tower hp hasnt caught with powercreep yet

meanwhile moc hp pools in star fail

[vapid river]

saw a video of her at s6 doing ~350k on nuke then 3x by 3x attacks for ~110k

[dusty crown]

yeah but i'm not a whale

[neat robin]

Some s6 chars doing like 250% of s0 dmg

I feel like phoebe is just a more consistent dps while hsi is meant for nuking

[vapid river]

the video was of her/srover/sk

so hard to say what her damage will look like with zani

not sure if zani will buff or not

but i'd guess probably?

there haven't been any zani kit leaks yeah?

[neat robin]

Just her shield thing

Though id assume its more that zani enables phoebes confession mode

Or well. Gives a reason to use it instead of just onfielding phoebe & pretending half her kit doesnt exist

[knotty fiber]

Well just a heads up

If people are gonna judge Hsi vs Fibi in this current ToA they better not

cuz it's heavily biased for SRover and Fibi

[neat robin]

It is (which means everyone will be saying how good phoebe is)

First rot for jinhsi is so shit when I dont have zz with her also

I had to bring yuanwu for the first time

[knotty fiber]

where's my Verina

[quasi sable]

Your Verina looks infamy rn

[knotty fiber]

lmfao

[keen jackal]

soonge almost done

oh i was scrolled up

just in time to post encore

[neat robin]

One day I’ll properly farm fusion set

[keen jackal]

only one of my pieces doesnt have double crit

[neat robin]

I have a perfect rider & then worse 3 costs & even worse 1 costs

[keen jackal]

i think my rider is my best piece

let me check

yea

maybe basic atk dmg over er wouldve been better but still pretty good

now let me lock in

she had lvl 7 talents before

i do need to get my basic atk up too

[keen jackal]

ok that was 10x easier with lvl 9 ult

[keen jackal]

"perfect rider" flat atk

[neat robin]

Its still a wanted roll

Encore may be the only fusion I have built rn but that doesnt mean every fusion would have wanted basic%

[rotund drum]

a high roll on crit rate in exchange for that energy regen and flat attack would have been preferable too

although the crit dmg high roll is good at least

[lyric fjord]

you can't farm passively these bosses, so in his position i wouldn't bother farming for a better echo

[rotund drum]

eh its just afk

[edgy cobalt]

just run whatever really, the game is easy

[rotund drum]

i used to have to cope whenever there was spectro res actually

i remember aixgate

[edgy cobalt]

saw a whale ran dps youhu on the side towers pretty sure thats doable without spending

[keen jackal]

anything is doable without spending

just pull better

[edgy cobalt]

yeah

[sweet coral]

Whaled just for the outfit

If Brant gets a premium outfit later I’ll whale again

[torn tapir]

Who do I use for middle tower 2nd floor

[winged belfry]

You could try Spectro Rover, but I'm not sure if you would want to build whole echo set just for that

[torn tapir]

Is spectro rover that good?

[winged belfry]

It's omega buffed by blessings.

Hmmm

Well

The bigger problem is that you simply don't have enough good teams

Spectro Rover would probably need to be paired by Pheobe or by XL at least

IMHO, you'd need to rearange your clears. You pretty much need to have XLY there

Yeah

That would be the easiest solution

[neat robin]

I brute forced middle 2nd with carlotta

[winged belfry]

Free XLY, and he has probably the best chance at that chamber

[neat robin]

But did 1st floor with yinyao

[winged belfry]

you have S3

IIRC

[neat robin]

I’m not the only one. You just need to get past the glacio guys & then heron is easy

But yeah xy works in mid, you can also use rejuv/moonlit srover for heal & to use the tower buff

[winged belfry]

IMHO, Spectro Rover is pretty good unit to do Quick Swaps with

[torn tapir]

Damg

Who should I build

[torn tapir]

Here's what I did

[neat robin]

Ive seen solo srover clears too, the buff is really good

[winged belfry]

Try doing F3 on both with Encore

or at least on one

[torn tapir]

She might be able to

The 1 costs on my account suck ngl 😔

[winged belfry]

Like man swap XLY on the one Fusion side with Chixia or soemthing, and that's probably enough

[neat robin]

Ok if anyone is struggling, srover/ yuanwu is an easy rejuv buffer, just need a moment on field to buff your actual char

When you have an empty slot & are struggling

Even like yuohu, with her heal linked to skill she can trigger rejuv + turtle 4cost without needing to be built

[knotty fiber]

SRover can hypercarry H2

[winged belfry]

If someone asks for help here, they are unlikely to have investment required for that

[knotty fiber]

And?
Their Rover is already lv90 and you don't even need to max out everything to use

If they don't have enough units

Bear with it

[winged belfry]

They've mentioned that they don't have good 1 costs

So your probably won't see double crit on everything

[neat robin]

Srover on new set (if you have eog which is like the first standard to get) you only need like 2 cr subs to be useful already
5 base + 24 cr from eog + 7 cr from s1 + 20 cr from frazzle set

But yes. Bring srover + whatever other decently built mdps
I may retry tower later when I have free time, I just have zero tuners to finish frazzle set rn

[knotty fiber]

My friend cleared with a totem Yinlin (did 0 dmg) with 30s to spare
Provided, he used SK for more crit

[lucid pebble]

Wait.

Do I need spectro rover for phoebe?

https://tenor.com/view/phoebe-wuthering-waves-phoebe-wuwa-wuwa-wuthering-gif-17427240854026907269

[knotty fiber]

yes

[lucid pebble]

Feck.

Why can’t she solo?

[winged belfry]

Yeah pretty much

[lucid pebble]

I need two spectro sets?

[knotty fiber]

pop quiz

can Fibi sustain her frazzle for 15s?

[rotund drum]

it probably doesnt really matter

you can probably just give srover moonlit or rejuvglow if it comes down to it

[knotty fiber]

Moonlit rover

[neat robin]

Me, having kept zero spectro% moonlit pieces

I wonder if zani would want rejuv srover, or sk like everybody else

[burnt shoal]

u can give spectro rover moonlit?

me can finally use my like 500s of moonlit pieces?

[neat robin]

The good thing about moonlit…
Have 1 crit 4cost and the 2 atk 1costs. You can just share among every team & only need to change 3costs depending on whos wearing it

[lucid pebble]

Shrimply roll two 3-cost moonlits.

[sweet coral]

SOUND THE ALARMS

[burnt shoal]

me planning to move zhezhi and mortefi away from moonlit anyway if i get enough pieces on the new set

[winged belfry]

With Confession mode.

[knotty fiber]

good luck using it as a dps I guess

[neat robin]

I dont think mort does enough dmg to be worth using empyrean

[hollow gorge]

I have kept all spectro% Moonlit. Management is hell, constantly at 2000

Though I can immediately double crit almost all combinations of sets that don't include HP or def main stat.

[harsh coral]

Hi all. Been thinking of giving Wuwu another chance. How is the game at the moment?

[neat robin]

Once you get past 1.x story its good

Though you can also just skip whatever you dont like

Rinacita is fun

[rotund drum]

It's the same game but with more powercreep

[harsh coral]

More powercreep? What's the meta like now?

I looked up the prydwin tier list and the dragon lady (forgot her name) still seems to be top tier

I have no idea how good prydwin is for Wuwu though 🤷

[lament shuttle]

Don’t take what he takes seriously he’s always dooming everything across all games

Story got better, new region is super fun

[harsh coral]

What is the meta like now? Any must-pulls?

[lament shuttle]

Shoorekeeper, and any dps you want tbh

The dps checks aren’t that high rn

[harsh coral]

Is she rerunning any time soon? It doesn't look like there' many limited 5*

Also, how big a boost are cons/sigs here (or whatever WuWu calls them)

Is it like the more recent HSR and Genshin ones where early cons can give massive boosts?

[lyric fjord]

Signatures are still very big upgrades for dps characters, but dupes are not necessary at all and also quite cheap since you can purchase them

Sk could rerun either 2.1, 2.2 or 2.3, no real info but since there aren't a lot of characters out, they tend to rerun quite fast

Rinascita is indeed amazing btw. Having a ton of fun

[lament shuttle]

Sig is 20% ish over standard 5*

Cons are dependent on the character

[harsh coral]

Honestly, if Jinshi (just looked up her name ) is still top tier I'll probably go for her instead. I like her design better

[lament shuttle]

She is top tier still

[harsh coral]

Actually, wait. I thought you were talking about the other banner unit . Looks like that's the name of the zone

[neat robin]

I’m ngl id rather get sigs than cons for this game

Guaranteed weapon vs 5050 char (unless you’re buying dupe from shop)

[harsh coral]

How easy is it to buy dupes? Is it expensive?

IIRC from when I last played you needed currency from summoning high rarity stuff to buy them

[neat robin]

360 coral

You get 5 per 4* you pull iirc?

You can either buy 45 pulls or 1 5* dupe with 360 coral lol
Its good value

[harsh coral]

I'm assuming 5* give a bit more but that seems like it will still take 70ish purples or golds to get that much

[lyric fjord]

rinascita is the name of the new region yeah (new city is ragunna)
old region was huanglong (basically china) and we've only seen its frontier which acts as a battlefront, which is why it was so bleak.
Ragunna is pretty much disney world compared to it

[harsh coral]

That was one of my major criticisms of the game at launch so it's nice that the world feels better now.

How is the English localisation now?

That was my other major turnoff

[lyric fjord]

0 issue on the new area with english
However you will quickly notice that ENG VAs are superb in ragunna

[quasi sable]

Never played English
But we have Italian accent rn

[lyric fjord]

also apparently a good portion of ENG VA of the main quest of 1.0 was re-done

[quasi sable]

Also when last time you played@harsh coral

[harsh coral]

I quit basically just after I Jinshi's first banner iirc

At least, I have her in my account now

[neat robin]

From my coral spending its been about 8 5* chars (lost then guaranteed x4) and I can buy a dupe from shop

I dont wanna talk about the bad luck

[harsh coral]

Yea, that checks out I think. So the shop isn't going to replace pulling for cons but is just a nice occasional bonus

[neat robin]

Shop is good to get those early s1/s2 bonuses you wouldnt normally have enough for yeah

[quasi sable]

Well you only missed free character and best support in the game (dw she'll get her rerun soon)

[neat robin]

You can pull s0, get sig, use coral on a strong s1 etc

[harsh coral]

Is it worth getting Jinshi's S1 or S2?

[quasi sable]

S1

If you like her so much

Wait

S1 is copy or weapon?

[lyric fjord]

F2P, playing since day 1, it's 6 limited characters (not counting xiangli yao), 3 sigs
+170 pulls remaining and 282 corals

we're not starved like genshin basically

copy

[harsh coral]

Copy I think?

[quasi sable]

@lyric fjord what's S again
Is it character or weapon

[lyric fjord]

dupes are called sequences. weapons have refinements, so it's jinhsi s2r1 for example

[quasi sable]

Oh I see

I got mixed S with hsr

Mb

[lyric fjord]

it does get confusing

[harsh coral]

I do kind of hate that they all have different names for exactly the same system

[lyric fjord]

wouldn't make sense to call them constellations though

[quasi sable]

Have you install wuwa yet

[harsh coral]

Yup. Just logged on briefly though. Don't have time to actually play now

[quasi sable]

@harsh coral

This will be on 2nd phase

[harsh coral]

I have no idea who any of those are but I can see the more western influence of the new characters I think . IIRC Changli is a rerun?

[quasi sable]

Phoebe basically dual mode unit DPS or Dot option
Brant basically amplifier with healing ability (not count as healer)

Also yeah she's a rerun

[lyric fjord]

brant has decent dmg himself, kind of like a changli but with some healing/shielding

[harsh coral]

Does he eliminate the need for a healer?

[rotund drum]

Rinascita is supposed to be the holy roman empire I think

The Chinese zone is almost always the worst one

[lyric fjord]

you mostly need healers for an easy access to concerto and buffs, not the need for sustain

[rotund drum]

Kusogames didn't do themselves any favors by starting with it

[lyric fjord]

quite the opposite imo, it's more based on venice

[quasi sable]

Everytime I think HRE
I think them Greece first lol

[rotund drum]

That's the regular roman empire I think

[shut isle]

only char id want here would be like changli but i need another mDPS

[quasi sable]

HRE is the German one right?

[shut isle]

and im too skill issued for QS

[harsh coral]

Yes

[harsh coral]

IIRC their verson of abyss needs three teams right? So I need 3 DPS? My only limited characters are Jinshi and Jiyan

I'm guessing I should pull another DPS at some point?

[shut isle]

Just started the game so only limited dps I have rn is Carlotta

27/30 stars, ran out of units

I don’t really want jinhsi

Nor phoebe

[quasi sable]

What abt Zani

[rotund drum]

Carlottacreep helps but you just missed her

You'll probably have to cope until phoebe

They haven't really started creeping tower hp to catch up with powercreep yet though so you can still bruteforce the middle tower with JH then just run cope teams for the easier floors

That should get you 24/30 usually at least even with only two real teams

Standards/4*s for both f1-3s for example then 1-2 star clears on both f4s with jiyan

[lyric fjord]

use rover, both spectro rover and havoc rover are good

they can both act as sub dps, dual dps or main dps

[uneven flame]

Some people are soloing tower with Chixia/SMC (Frazzle buff op)/Danjin on each tower so teams are whatever right now once you fully level your dps.

[rotund drum]

Those are hyperinvested meme whales

The average person is not going to be spending nearly enough resources on meme chars to make them viable

[neat robin]

3 ‘teams’ is a stretch

Two proper teams for 4th floors & middle tower

Pretty free throwing whoever at 1-3 of the outer towers

[vapid river]

^

you really only need 2 healers

well, a verina and a skeeper

for last floors and middle tower

floors 1-3 are a joke

lingyang could probably beat them just fine so long as he has okay ish echoes

[neat robin]

I guess we’ll see in the livestream if skeeper is rerunning?

Mixed feelings. Sk and camy are only 2 left to rerun
I want sk sig

But. I can prob get brant & sig AND cantarella & sig if no sk reruns

[harsh coral]

Does Shorekeeper need her sig or any sequences?

[placid holly]

no

[edgy cobalt]

she is totally fine at s0r0

[knotty fiber]

sig is a luxury

and anything above that is flex

[neat robin]

Just get variation

[dusty crown]

yes she needs her sig

because otherwise variation has NO DRIP AT ALL AND THIS IS A CRIME

(but for meta she doesn't)

[edgy cobalt]

no drip as in it doesn’t look nice (sure) or it’s not spotlighted (literally in limited weapon banner rn)

[rotund drum]

you cant even see the rectifiers anyway

or any of the weapons tbh

there's a reason why all of the gbf relink weapon skins are albacores and shrimp and stuff

it stands out

[edgy cobalt]

I can only see stringmaster tbf

[knotty fiber]

there's this magical thing called invisible projection

just make the thing disappear

easy

[neat robin]

It looks so dumb with invisible blades lol

[warped willow]

h

[harsh coral]

What's the best standard character to get sequences on?

I still have the beginner choice banner active

Or is it better to use standard summons on the weapon banner?

[warped willow]

which do you use the most

[harsh coral]

No idea lol. I'm returning to the game today after like a year. My only limited 5* are tall Xiao and dragon lady

i.e. Jiyan and Jinhsi

[uneven flame]

Verina for S2 and to a lesser extent S4 (great if you have Jinhsi or Phoebe)

[lilac hare]

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-verina-idle-spectro-think-gif-7340404962486610168

[harsh coral]

Got her. After that, where should I be spending my standard summons? On the character or weapon banner?

[uneven flame]

Weapon cause the character standard banner is random while the weapon banner you can select a path plus 4* weapons in this game that aren't variation are ass.

[dapper oar]

good yet so bad

[quasi sable]

Guys

When usually preinstall

Monday or Tuesday?

[rotund drum]

hopefully never

isnt it just brant first banner anyway

[quasi sable]

It's Phoebe

[rotund drum]

i should probably blastpan some echoes then

no content anyway though so plenty of time

[burnt shoal]

me need 3000 echoes limit to come soon

mail starting to become full

or might be in a week

[rotund drum]

they could probably sell echo slots like azur lane does

[winged belfry]

I hope not

[neat robin]

If you’re building chars idk how you have so many echos

[winged belfry]

Probably doesn't do mergers often enough

[neat robin]

[vapid river]

why are you getting rid of the turtle

[winged belfry]

Jesus

You raise everything when you can?

Or only when building?

[vapid river]

he just doesn't keep stuff he doesn't need would be my guess

i'm lowkey considering getting rid of all my lingering tunes and old glacio set

[winged belfry]

For example I don't have any Aero DPS, but I still keep unleveled ATK 1 cost and Aero DMG% 3 cost, just in case I might want to build an Aero DPS

[vapid river]

aero set is pretty universal though

old glacio and new glacio are dependent on using basic/heavy or res skill

[winged belfry]

I don't think universality matters

You will need to get a character their signature set anyway

[vapid river]

i'm talking specifically for hoarding echoes

not a lot can be done about future echo sets that drop

since, if i had to guess, they'll probably keep releasing new sets that cater to the kits of units that get released

cuz all of the 2.0 units want all the 2.0 sets

though you can still get by with moonlit/rejuv b/c they're good, even if not kit specific, for your sdps and support

[neat robin]

Single crit

[vapid river]

sadge

[neat robin]

I merge out anything off-element or hp/def (except rejuv hp stuff) and ive run through dozens at a time when I’m building a new char

[vapid river]

wtb tuners

https://tenor.com/bGQFvLD6OnY.gif

[neat robin]

Zero

My srover is at 50/270 rn cuz I have no tuners to +10 anything else lol

[winged belfry]

And what are you doing to echos that are potential useful, like Lingering Tunes, but are for characters you as aren't using?

[vapid river]

i have 289 lingering tunes and i think i might just delete them all

i hate this set

[winged belfry]

I've kept all DMG% echoes for Lingering Tunes and for Moonlit

As well as all ATK 1 cost

[vapid river]

ninjy probably only keeps ER% for moonlit

and probably doesn't keep any lingering

[neat robin]

Idk I have a set built for almost each kind now

[dusty crown]

would help if mergers weren't a complete pita

[neat robin]

I do keep a lot

[vapid river]

ninjy you can't say you keep a lot while having less than 400 echoes

[dusty crown]

even with the batch merges you still have to go through each echo individually to see which one to lock before doing another batch

auto-lock features for each set would help

[neat robin]

Theres no point in keeping anything off element

[vapid river]

we know this ninjy

[neat robin]

No need for any def or hp mains

[vapid river]

we're not hoarding off element

[neat robin]

So why would I have a lot

[vapid river]

or def/hp main stats

[neat robin]

Are you not building chars

[vapid river]

b/c this set exists

and with moonlit it's hard to say if the unit will want er

or if they'll want ele%

though i'm getting rid of the ele%

[neat robin]

Every one of these is built

[vapid river]

rip carrot

[neat robin]

I took back the 5pc void for xy again

[vapid river]

it's not like i get an aero% 3 cost and toss it

i have jiyan built

but i'm still saving that aero% 3 cost

ya know?

are you tossing it?

[neat robin]

I do to

Also tune them in case they’re better

[vapid river]

i don't have the tuners to do that

[neat robin]

Neither do i

[vapid river]

aside from events i just never have tuners

i should spend a month just doing echo domains for tuners

just to waste them all on flat hp/def rolls

[neat robin]

Ive been living in tacet fields, since I prefarmed carlotta before 2.0 I had nothing else to farm lol

[vapid river]

time to get rid of a couple hundred

[winged belfry]

Guys

I need to admit something

[neat robin]

[winged belfry]

At first I was a staunch Pheobe wanter

But as the time approaches, I find myself doubting more and more

[vapid river]

go into character screen, go to echoes, click the drop down, and show me how many lingering tunes you have

[winged belfry]

I fear that main DPS Phoebe will be SRover locked

[vapid river]

i bet it's like 40

and they're all 4 costs

[neat robin]

Oh I have nasically none

[winged belfry]

And because she'd be tied to Rover, her potential will be very limited

[neat robin]

I have a handful of tunes stuff but new chars have been getting signature sets

[winged belfry]

But her sub DPS right now makes no sense

So it's directed for Zani

[neat robin]

Absolution phoebe + srover
Confession phoebe + zani

Is my guess

[winged belfry]

And I don't think I want Zani

[neat robin]

I’m skipping, waiting to see if I get zani.
Then if I want I can get phoebe on rerun

Personally I’m kinda leaning towards getting the aero duo instead now

[winged belfry]

If Phoebe + SRover was around as strong as Jinhsi + Zhezhi I'd have no issues

But everyone suggest that it's a bit weaker

[winged belfry]

Who's Aero Duo?

[neat robin]

[vapid river]

8 molten rift

[neat robin]

The elf girl & uh
Other one. I cant spell their names

[vapid river]

canterella

and uhh

[neat robin]

No

[lyric fjord]

Srover is fun tho. Believe in Zani.

[neat robin]

Cantarella is the havoc healer

[vapid river]

cart something?

bro there are too many c names

[neat robin]

Carte is the elf
I think the other aero starts with a K

[winged belfry]

I don't recall anyone else that's Elf girl being leaked to be Aero

[neat robin]

I just scrapped so many trying to fix encore

[opaque flume]

Is phoebe op

[winged belfry]

She's decent

[opaque flume]

I thought she had coordinated attack damage

Does she not?

[winged belfry]

Nope

[opaque flume]

Interesting

[winged belfry]

She has some off fielddamage dealing via elemental debuff

[neat robin]

CIACONNA

Sorry I thought it was a k

Ciaconna & cartethiya or however tf you spell it