・wuwa-lounge

[vapid river]

saving for zani

[knotty fiber]

because the render model looked ugly

[vapid river]

that's fair

[knotty fiber]

in game though

stunning

she's fun

and cute

and has a pretty face

I can never like that kind of body but she's cute and I'll give in this one time

[vapid river]

even though you know you more than likely don't need her

[knotty fiber]

oh I never needed her

at this point I just pull whoever I like

and not whoever I need

[vapid river]

that's fair

[rotund drum]

This sounds like classic 5* sucrose/barbara/gallagher/hmc cope

[lyric fjord]

Eh, every account benefits from kazuha. Only camellya owners benefit from roccia and probably only with her sig

[burnt shoal]

me wanted to pull for her cause she seem good support

but chat here said she really only good if you have camellya

and i would be playing like no synergy teams without camellya

[lucid pebble]

If Cantarella is Phrolova slave, then it doesn't appear there's a niche for Roco.

Especially if Sanhua is competitive with her.

[winged belfry]

More I think about it, more apparent is becomes that Phoebe is designed to work like main DPS when paired with Spectro MC.

But right now, there's little reason to use her as Spectro Frazzle sub DPS

Because at that role she probably won't be that great

But

In Sub DPS mode none of her actually important stuff disappears on swaps

And her animations follow a pattern of 1-2 being short, and 3 and heavy being on the longer side

I think you can see where I'm going with this

She mighty be designed to work like quickswap sub DPS with Zani

Our first unit that's actually designed to be used in Quick Swap scenarios

[neat robin]

Ive heard zani phoebe duo isnt a normal mdps+sdps
So thatd make sense for quickswap duo
Just a bit unsure on phoebe switching modes if she wants absolution mode but onfield zani wants confession mode

Hopefully more leaks soon

[neat robin]

Its more that roccia is havoc + basic
She wouldnt really be best for phrolova as well unless they wanted 2 basic mdps

[winged belfry]

Pheobe needs to be on field to reapply Frazzle

So even Confessions state Pheobe needs to have some on field presence

[winged belfry]

Phoro might simply consider her attacks as basics, likely Zhezhi treatse her ult as basic, or like Carlotta treats ult and heavy as skill damage

Don't just say that she'll be doing basic attacks

Because Kuro loves this kind of stuff

[burnt shoal]

is phoebe c1 a better buy from shop than jinhsi c1

me still thinking who to use up shop constellations on

[winged belfry]

I'd tell you about Carlotta

But I that that banner is already over

Pheobe S1 looks to be pretty small

[edgy cobalt]

I would just save instead of being either

[neat robin]

I’m not when I say basic dps I mean specifically basic% sorry

No point in calling a dps NA or whatever when kuro makes a kit based on a dmg% type rather than that one talent

Though

[winged belfry]

Yes?

[neat robin]

I may be tripping I feel like Ive seen the leaks are skill/havoc outro on cantarella

I know I was eyeing her this early on as a possible jinhsi option

That or i was comparing brant outro vs canta coords for hsi when I was living on 4 hrs of sleep last week

Has there been anything else about sk rerun she sorta vanished from 2.1 rerun leaks

[edgy cobalt]

didn't know a "cantarella" exists

will just wait for beta

[neat robin]

Shes the pastel girl

I’m not tripping about the skill outro ok
I dont know wuwa leakers though so no idea if this was a good one

Seen it from 2 leakers but yeah. Idk whos trustworthy or not

[edgy cobalt]

xp?

[neat robin]

Something cn term for just a char you love

Like you want zani AND phoebe unless you just pull zani to have her

Idk

And the 0+1 is s0r1

[rotund drum]

seems reasonable

[knotty fiber]

lmao what

[opaque flume]

Damn

[knotty fiber]

she's short af and she can still do it

[rotund drum]

meanwhile CLT

[neat robin]

I wonder if jinhsi canta verina would still be the best choice

Canta + yuanwu vs canta + verina is still rejuv & moonlit buffs

[knotty fiber]

double dip with (Mo)zherella

[edgy cobalt]

lmfao its over

[rotund drum]

kusogames check bounced

[opaque flume]

Is she really that bad

[rotund drum]

this is the same site that said argenti was ASS+

[edgy cobalt]

you need sig to justify using her over sanhua with eog

[opaque flume]

Damn

Crazy

She has really good cc tho

I thought

[edgy cobalt]

s0r0 angle is just
gambling on the fact that the next havoc dps will like rc

and assuming future content needs cc

like tell me y'all needed venti in genshit still or nah?

[opaque flume]

True

But genshit sucks tho

https://tenor.com/view/tole-tole-cat-cat-vro-cat-gif-17161343143756375842

You can make cc good

It’s possible

[edgy cobalt]

I wouldn't know whats the deal with that game since I stopped years ago

so like do ppl still use venti lmao

[rotund drum]

venti cc doesnt work anymore but kazuha succ does

[edgy cobalt]

oh so its succreep

then I'll wait for a better succ

ez

[opaque flume]

No cause they made every enemy weak cc immune

[lament shuttle]

Might be good in the new mode in 2.1

The ones that is basically abyss with mob waves

[rotund drum]

she'll probs be good for overworld and toa which are the only two things that really matter

unless you care about being sweaty in pincer assault or w/e

[opaque flume]

I mean I highly doubt they will go the Genshin route and make all cc useless

[edgy cobalt]

oh I didn't know there's a new mode

is it toa 2.0

[lament shuttle]

It’s genshin abyss

[opaque flume]

By making it 1-2 mob waves and bosses

[rotund drum]

its pf 2.0 i think

[lament shuttle]

No exhaustion but can’t share gear

[opaque flume]

Oh scammed

[lament shuttle]

Floors 7-12 refresh

[opaque flume]

I might have to raise some gear now

That makes me mad

I hate this game shit game fr

[lament shuttle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1hzprsx/ww_21_beta_events_interface_incomplete_via_sleep/

[opaque flume]

I only have 2 swords raised and 2 rectifiers and 1 broadblade and 1 gauntlets and 1 gun

[lament shuttle]

I mean you only need 6 units

For the whole thing

There’s no exhaustion

[opaque flume]

Oh ok

Maybe I’m fine then

[edgy cobalt]

just run clt and xly teams then you're chilling

[knotty fiber]

there's no proper weapon other than sig

because the standard one is garbage

BP is also only for Yaoi and not her

so her f2p/cheap option is pretty much a big zero

[opaque flume]

For Roccia?

[knotty fiber]

yes

Yaoi's sig doesn't work well for her either

it's just a stat stick

the whole passive is bricked

a very expensive char
so for prydwen's S0R0 benching, she's bad

[winged belfry]

Who TF are you talking about?

[knotty fiber]

?

[winged belfry]

Like, I haven't no idea what characters you are talking about

Is it Yinlin?

Is it Xiangli Yao?

[knotty fiber]

if you scroll up just a lil bit

you'll see

lol

[winged belfry]

Is it Changli?

[knotty fiber]

guess who just came out

and got rated by prydwen

[winged belfry]

Why refer to Changli as Yaoi?

[knotty fiber]

wtf

[winged belfry]

Just type plainly

[rotund drum]

hes talking abotu xiangling yaoyayo

you should have been ablet o figure that out from the context

since he's talking about sig fists

[hollow gorge]

I noticed this shit started to appear after Tencent acquired Kuro I am Madge

[winged belfry]

Ok, It's too late for me. And I took, "her" as if it was referring to "Yaoi"

So I was just going WTF is he talking about

[neat robin]

Huh?

[rotund drum]

they've been doing it from the start

[neat robin]

Doing what

I’m so confused

[hollow gorge]

Characters that work only as a pair. Poor endgame with "u need these specific limited chars" into your face.

[neat robin]

Nothing in wuwa needs specific chars

Though yes having chars that have specific kits for just a duo is yuck

[hollow gorge]

Nothing needed so far*. Pincer was not so subtle about it, but 2.1 game modes seem to be sus

[winged belfry]

Pincer so far was doable with free character exclusively

[hollow gorge]

I am not gonna discuss it

[winged belfry]

1st pincer was havoc focused, and all you needed was 2 havoc characters. You get one for free, and 2 are common Gacha 4 stars.

2nd pincer required electro characters. Guess what? You get one for free, and other was a limited 5 star that was given for free

3rd pincer was like 1st coordinated or ultimate, so once again doable with XY and Yuanwu

[winged belfry]

Because you are wrong and you know it

[hollow gorge]

Sure, bud

[winged belfry]

Then provided actual irrefutable argument that you are right

[hollow gorge]

Why should I? I cared about Genshin to discuss things. I learned my lesson not to care about gacha games

[edgy cobalt]

new gamemode just use clt and xly teams and you're fine no?

its shrimple as that

[winged belfry]

So you are just stirring shit for giggles now?

Looks like there has been an update on new mode

[edgy cobalt]

saw the ping but didn't see the full msg

for the new endgame next patch

[winged belfry]

Yeah I thought I saw update on that in telegram

So deleted old message I thought was incorrect

But it was false alarm

[edgy cobalt]

guess we'll just wait for next patch then

I splurged rsc and prebuilt phoebe in 10 minutes cuz why not

70:270 ratio and missing 2 crit subs while frazzle set gives +20% cr for free anyw

[hollow gorge]

There is plenty of negative feedback about Pincer all around. We shall see if devs gonna listen in this case.

[edgy cobalt]

pincer is the terminology of double unit synergy right, or is that some dude?

[hollow gorge]

Pincer permanent event

Pincer warriors or wtv

[edgy cobalt]

the one where you need two teams to just kill waves right

[hollow gorge]

Yes

[edgy cobalt]

yeah I can see why people won't like it esp if they don't have the shill units

[hollow gorge]

Tbh, it might be an impossible flaw to fix for gacha genre: you can't make an interesting endgame, due to too many interests contradicting

And you kinda need a good endgame to build your teams for

[winged belfry]

Structure of Pincer Event is like this: you have wildly overpowered mechanics that alone clears event by itself.

You get to chose one of 3 buffs. One of thesee buff will allow for much easier access to OP mechanic. Other 2 are general and lackluster.

To use buff 1, you need to use units of specific elements or specific focus. It's so easy that you need only one such unit per side. Once you have that, you have pretty much won.

[opaque flume]

Bro just pull all the characters

[winged belfry]

I've done 1st pincer which was Havoc shilled with HRover on one side, and Danjin on the other

Both solo

It as piss easy

Second pincer was Electro shilled, I've done with XLY on one side

And I think second was something generic like Jinhsi

But most of my score came from XLY as he was clearing a lot faster

[opaque flume]

I mean it was XLY and yinlin shilling

So not surprising he would do well

😭

[hollow gorge]

It's not a question of being easy or hard. It's a question of being interesting or not. In Pincer you just repeat round after round the same formula against the same mobs.

You don't need to adapt anything

[opaque flume]

I mean it’s lazy content

It prolly takes them half a day to make

Max

[winged belfry]

I mean, it was pretty interesting to me

Seeing waves drop in blink of an eye

[neat robin]

Its generic content
Free rewards

[winged belfry]

Different from usually boss killing we gave in ToA

[opaque flume]

Play illusory realm

[winged belfry]

I would

[hollow gorge]

Pretty much, which is especially disappointing, considering they know how to make an interesting endgame (used to be so in PGR).

[winged belfry]

If it was available at this moment

Illusory realm is peak

[opaque flume]

Agreed

[neat robin]

I’m pretty sure IR is available still

[winged belfry]

Nope

[opaque flume]

It’s not

They removed it

EOS soon

[neat robin]

I did have the teleport point recently

Havent been on huanglong map much though

[hollow gorge]

It's good, except for the repeatable part. Again, nothing nudges you to adapt or be flexible. You find something that works and repeat it a dozen times

[neat robin]

Or you know

[opaque flume]

Maybe if you are a loser

[neat robin]

Use all the chars

[winged belfry]

What?

[neat robin]

Its fun seeing what bullshit kits they give to IR chars

I loved encores giant ass sheep

[opaque flume]

This is like saying you can only play Minecraft one way

[winged belfry]

Like there is on option to play at 100 hp

[opaque flume]

Cause they don’t nudge you

😭

[winged belfry]

Where every one shots you

Or you can play tank with bell

[neat robin]

Ok sorry I need to know

Who’s the emoji person

[opaque flume]

Me

[winged belfry]

Catoffcial

[neat robin]

Ah

[winged belfry]

Or I could just say bia

Everyone is bia

[opaque flume]

I used to be bia

I have been freed

[winged belfry]

Bia is everybody

[neat robin]

Okay yeah ik that name

Ive been seeing your messages and like whos this
Why so many emojis

[opaque flume]

It’s fun

[hollow gorge]

Minecraft kinda nudges you to adapt. In its original survival form. Otherwise, it's not a single player game, so social part makes it different

[opaque flume]

Not really you can play the speedrun game every time

They don’t really budge you to do anything besides like

Go to different dimensions and stuff ig?

Idk

[neat robin]

Its almost like not every single mode will make every single person happy

[opaque flume]

I just feel like people lose sight of these things as like

Things that bring joy

😭

People are miserable when wasting their time playing games

Hilarious ngl

[winged belfry]

IR gives you more rewards of you take on more negative effects that make run harder

So if you don't count that as having to learn, I don't know what does

[hollow gorge]

Not unless you figure out quite a lot of stuff. Which is progression. You don't need to figure out much in Wuwa endgame

[winged belfry]

I'm really wondering if we are really playing the same game, you and me.

[hollow gorge]

There isn't much to learn. You don't need to adapt. Likely the build you used so far will be enough to be done with all the obstacles. It lacks the problem solving part.

[winged belfry]

First and second statement: false, as different bosses have different optimal strategies. Like you can get parries of Mephis and adjust your rotation accordingly. And that's on top of having to learn movesets and all that jazz.

Second part: well everything still has be be brute-force-able. With sufficient force you'll even kill Electro resistant Mephis using nothing but Electro. That's pretty much necessary, as it leave pathse open to players. Like in Elden Ring you cannot kill Elden Beast with nothing but Holy spells, even though that thing has like 60% or 80% holy resistance.

[hollow gorge]

No, I don't think endgame should be bruteforceable. Because that's what I would do. If the game doesn't need me to do decision-making in a designed manner, I won't. And it would be boring for me.

I ll find the way to bruteforce content and will do it until it stops working

[winged belfry]

Like, I struggle to think of any game that has game endgame that's not brute-force-able

Like none of gachas, and certainly not any of Hoyo gachas

Modern RPGs also don't count

Become you can overlevel

[hollow gorge]

Well, GFL2 seems to be good so far in having interesting bosses that are not bruteforceable among gachas at least with current level of powercreep

[winged belfry]

Like literally only game I can think of that fits your requirements is Sekiro, but that's half the an action game, and half a puzzle. Some bosses can be defeated only in very certain way, and nothing else will work

[neat robin]

Unless they made a boss just flat out immune to a type of dmg
But then you’d go back to ‘requiring’ pulling specific chars which most people wont want to do

[winged belfry]

Hahahaha

Hahahaha

Hahahahaha

GFL2 where V1 is baseline

And V3 is "standard investment"

It's a Gacha

And all of that can be solved with just throwing money at the problem

Get everything at V6, set up auto, and it'll be won

[hollow gorge]

That's for ppl who try to bruteforce. Instead of doing the right thing, which is team building

[neat robin]

??? So back to this

[winged belfry]

Haven't yet just said that end game "shouldn't be bruteforceable"?

But it is

[hollow gorge]

Plenty of good MMOs solved that. Generally, by having interesting boss movesets and patterns, requiring multiple ppl to work in a systematic but adaptable manner

[neat robin]

God no dont make it into a mmo

That shit turns into whalefest so fast

Coop in events is fine I dont wanna be forced into partying with whales carrying other people through big bosses

[hollow gorge]

Latest endgame shouldn't be bruteforceable. Current latest GFL2 endgame is not bruteforceable. I am in a top guild there and none of the whales finished endgame content just by having s6 units with maxed weapons.

All of them did their research and built up their stuff accordingly

[winged belfry]

And people without V6 don't even have chance to do it, because they lack raw strength whaling offers

[hollow gorge]

It's gacha, so I don't expect it to stay that way for long though

[winged belfry]

Like man

Your every argument ends up being worse than the last one

[hollow gorge]

No, I did 90% of the endgame content there with v0 v1 units while underleveled by using proper buffs/debuffs, setups and order of moves

Which was pretty fun ngl

[neat robin]

Theres plenty of strategy games out there go play them instead

[hollow gorge]

Which I do

The genre is drying out ngl

[winged belfry]

Yeah sure whatever, tell me you've cleared highest gunsmoke or whatever it is with Groza and Veplay, just because of superior thinking, and that couldn't be replaced by a whale with V6 units on an auto

[neat robin]

Ok
And wuwa is combat based. You beat shit up with the characters you enjoy playing

[winged belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-gif-25799821

[hollow gorge]

No, I am still lvl59, Gunsmoke requires lvl60. Will be trying it tomorrow. Should be fun. It has pretty deep mechanics

[winged belfry]

Yeah sure

And surely none of that can be burteforced with raw power V6 gives

None at all

[hollow gorge]

Sure. Or it could have problem solving part to it. PGR had that

[hollow gorge]

What is the point of me talking if you don't take my word? I don't intend to prove anything to you

[winged belfry]

You are a clown that tries to pass game where money buys power as "game where endgame cannot be bruteforced".

[hollow gorge]

Ok. I don't think the discussion will go further than that. You were asking for reasonable arguments, it seems you didn't get them

[winged belfry]

You presented a Gacha game as something where "endgame cannot be bruteforced"

But you know what?

I'll bite

Present a clear of end game, Gunsmoke, with F2P units. So Groza, Nemesis, Krolik, Colphene, and Lotta are the only ones allowed.

[hollow gorge]

No, I presented something closest to that concept. I don't think there is gacha that isn't bruteforceable

[winged belfry]

No Vertebrae, except to Lotta

[winged belfry]

Your words

[hollow gorge]

That defeats the point of the game, which is collecting units and building strategy with them

[winged belfry]

And that requires pulling

Which means it's bruteforceable

[hollow gorge]

Eventually it will be. It's the flaw in gacha balance

[winged belfry]

Then you directly contradicted yourself

[hollow gorge]

Where exactly? What we have rn as a latest endgame can't be done without extensive research made by Chinese players. Which took plenty of time for them to build

[winged belfry]

One last time.

Provide a clear of Gunsmoke with F2P units I've listed, or eat your words

[hollow gorge]

I ll eat my words

[winged belfry]

Good

[hollow gorge]

It's specifically a gacha problem that exists due to whale units being significantly stronger in raw power. PGR kinda solved that via unique character combat mechanics and complex boss mechanics, but they weren't able to sustain it, because gacha revenues depend on whaling and gachas need to incentivize whaling

[neat robin]

Uh huh

So you dont whale and then… ? Play the game properly?

If you dont want to just breeze through with force you simply dont vertically invest

[hollow gorge]

I mean... That's like not leveling up in a game. Sure, you can finish Elden Ring as lvl1 char. But should you? If the game has a mechanic, it should be used. Getting copies is gacha mechanic and the game should balance that

Whaling is skipping game, but not getting copies (eventually up to a whale lvl) would also be skipping gameplay

[hollow gorge]

But then if the game is balanced around zero additional copies, you can't have copies at all or it would be too easy. So if you stay at 0 copies, you miss out on content (which is planning and collecting copies)

There are solutions to it, but it seems gacha community is generally satisfied with how the things are?

[cobalt apex]

idk if i count collecting copies as content

[neat robin]

Well yes?
I have every 5* but changli (and roccia now)
Obv when I invested in s3 carlotta she makes things easier. But I can just use any s0 for a challenge

Or I use teams that dont benefit from the tower buff/element bonus

[hollow gorge]

That's part of team building for me, so missing out on it is not an option

[neat robin]

Collecting s0 of chars is not vertically investing either

[neat robin]

Like idk what this is about

[cobalt apex]

teambuilding with just increasing dmg and not playstyle never made sense to me

[neat robin]

You can play and collect chars and leave them at s0
They have their full kit unlocked

[hollow gorge]

This is about the fact that now that I have all main teams built and able to clear content with ease, I don't need to build anything else. So character collection loses its point for me

[cobalt apex]

the main point was never the “need” tho

[neat robin]

So youve never heard of pulling chars for fun

I have more than enough teams as well
If I enjoy using a char, I’m gonna pull the char

[hollow gorge]

Fun is subjective. My fun is to pull characters to overcome game obstacles

[cobalt apex]

for me pulling more copies just delete the game obstables

[neat robin]

I prefer playibg a game that does NOT force pulling everyone new thanks

[cobalt apex]

if i dont need to use my brain while playing a game

thats just the same as doing chores

[neat robin]

Ive had enough of gachas forcing the newest char because they just make content harder and old chars irrelevant

[hollow gorge]

You don't need to pull everyone. If units combine in multiple ways. That's the point of team building: making do with what you have and trying to fix the missing pieces of the ever expanding puzzle

[neat robin]

You dont
You pull new chars to fill those missing spots and then you pull chars cuz you wanna actually have fun while you play

I’m just failing to see like
Okay yeah you have 3 teams. But you have no interest in pulling & building new characters just because you . already have teams?

Its a gacha. Half the point is just collecting chars

[hollow gorge]

Well, that fun while you play for me comes down to combining units that I have collected. Preferably in new ways. And doing that with purpose

[hollow gorge]

Yeah, which is why I suspect gacha is ultimately not my genre, I just happened to enjoy novEl experience of it

[neat robin]

Its a combat game you take 3 chars you wanna try out together and see what works

[hollow gorge]

I want to plan a team. Then build it and see it working. Maybe not immediately, but after some adjustments

[neat robin]

Focus more on chars that use mechanics like jinhsi
Yeah shes strong but without bringing coord sdps and not using intros she sucks

[cobalt apex]

the more teams u want to plan the more chars u want

[neat robin]

You can build quickswap teams like changli yao

[cobalt apex]

how can u test if a synergy is good without having the char for that synergy

[hollow gorge]

That generally works, until I figure out the basic teams that solve everything, and then the game doesn't provide any reason to make new teams

[cobalt apex]

for... fun

for most of us at least

i dont want to play that 1 team for the rest of my life

[neat robin]

‘New chars arent fun cuz reasons’
Is basically what I’m getting from him

Me
Do I have any use for brant? Absolutely not
Am I gonna stuff him into some random jinhsi team because he looks fun to play? Yes

[cobalt apex]

was changli good?

prob not

i still pulled her in 1.1 for some future fun qs teams tho

[edgy cobalt]

like changli and brant unless they don’t qs together

[cobalt apex]

skipped jinhsi for changli but whatever

[neat robin]

I dont like changli

[cobalt apex]

i dont feel like playing jinhsi

[hollow gorge]

Tbh, I don't care about chars. They could be cardboard cutouts with stats and mechanics. Wuwa just happen to have a boss rush mechanic that provides problems to solve

In an interesting way

[edgy cobalt]

whats even the convo about

[hollow gorge]

Convo is about balancing gacha copies

[edgy cobalt]

every time I see notimelime in most chats it’ll be convos like this where the opposing party is trying to understand notimelime pov

[cobalt apex]

[edgy cobalt]

balancing gacha copies, unfortunately I give zero shits about dupes so carry on

[neat robin]

Idk why they even play
Cant pull chars cuz ??
New chars arent fun
Oh no whales be whaling

[neat robin]

Yes exactly s0 is fine thats balanced

[hollow gorge]

Good, one less person to follow discussion with

[edgy cobalt]

I can def chime in on a real note

[neat robin]

Pulling more than 1 copy is specifically to make the game easier
Nobody is forcing you to do that

[cobalt apex]

my personal opinion on dupes is that they make the problems nonexistent which removes my original motivation to play the game

[hollow gorge]

Gacha is about pulling chars AND their copies though. So you miss half the intended content

[neat robin]

I got carlotta dupes cuz big numbers
But at the same time I left xy (my fav man) at s0 and also took on middle overdrive with him for a challenge

[cobalt apex]

are the content fun?

if they arent why bother

[neat robin]

Gachas that force pulling dupes are ass

As said. Ive played enough of those

Wuwa being complete character kits at base version is so refreshing

[neat robin]

And most of these are because of pvp in gacha

[hollow gorge]

Well, that's because they incentivize pulling itself, not the actual gameplay around it. You can build gameplay around getting copies. Gear systems in MMOs are all about getting copies

[neat robin]

No its still gameplay
The dupes are just to make you stronger than the other guy whos only got c2 when you have c5

[edgy cobalt]

like see I can def agree with this cuz thats what a gacha is, but you don’t have to do that

I think thats the main point here no?

[hollow gorge]

I LIKE vertical investment. If I don't do it, I don't like it. It is as simple as that. Point I made before: it's like staying lvl1 or lvl 10 in Elden Ring.

[edgy cobalt]

that’s totally fine

I think we’re done here

[hollow gorge]

Yeah

[neat robin]

I think you’re just playing the wrong game if you arent having fun

[edgy cobalt]

bruh

[hollow gorge]

I am having fun. But I am planning around not having fun soon. It's a joke btw

[neat robin]

No its fine

People play for different reasons, I get that

[barren drift]

duality

[dapper oar]

is roccia worth

i got an early but its calculator

i think my camellya is fine with sanhua right she's with sig

[vapid river]

if you have camy with sig and sanhua at s6 you don't really need rococo

[dapper oar]

ok thanks

[vapid river]

rococo will net more damage but it's not really enough to matter?

[dapper oar]

yea ive seen her tc basically just a slightly better sanhua but she's more about CC

[vapid river]

ye, the succ

[dapper oar]

lets see if next ToA we all mald

[vapid river]

this tower is spectro/havoc

for jinhsi/rococo

at least it seemed like the sides were meant for them

[dapper oar]

ok but phoebe should be spectro too right

[vapid river]

yeah she is

but that'll be a different tower

[dapper oar]

so unless they immediately would go for brant buff (fusion)

its gonna be another spectro havoc

lmao

[vapid river]

yeah i suspect that tower will be fusion/spectro

at least one of them during the banners

[dapper oar]

then roccia would be really not advised to pull huh

i am kinda sad since she's gonna break my 100% completion

currently i have everyone

[vapid river]

well it's rococo/camy and cant/phrolova(speculated)

[dapper oar]

oh fuck yeah i want phrolova so bad too

yeah lets just skip her

[vapid river]

so it's two different pairs of havoc

[dapper oar]

i want brant so bad

i want his milk

[vapid river]

i don't

but i have no encore

no changli

[dapper oar]

i have changli S1

[vapid river]

he does nothing for my account

[dapper oar]

and encore too

so like

[vapid river]

i have s5 lingyang

[dapper oar]

i NEED him in more ways than 1

[vapid river]

and s4 carrot

i liked him in the story

but i don't like his design enough to pull for him

i've seen his gameplay and i have enough "fun" swinging around with camy

[dapper oar]

ive only lost like.. 3 times so far

[vapid river]

[dapper oar]

which is wild

[blissful tulip]

Chixia

[vapid river]

my chixia is level 30?

40?

[blissful tulip]

I'd like Brant as well but I hope his rotation is as fast as Roccia's

[vapid river]

i think i've lost 5 times?

but my highest win streak is 5?

[blissful tulip]

Roccia's been fantastic for my HMC

I understand why she's not worth pulling when Cam's in the picture

[dapper oar]

i went for cam + sig but then immediately got another cam

[vapid river]

oh 6 losses

i forgot about jianxin

[blissful tulip]

HMC has a different rotation that fits Roccia more I'd say

While Cam sticks on the field for a good while

[dapper oar]

eh i rarely use him

i like using SMC more since they just got buffed

[neon falcon]

good value

[vapid river]

all of those bundles are actually good values

if you compare to what it costs to buy asterite outright

ignoring initial double bonus

[lament shuttle]

If you do swipe, use a vpn to Japan it’s way cheaper

It’s like 25% discount

[warped willow]

didn't get jinhsi

is ok

fibi.

[lyric fjord]

Do we know about concerto regen speed for phoebe and brant yet?

[vapid river]

can't you get banned for this

[lament shuttle]

My friend has multiple s6s and didn’t get banned at all

[vapid river]

i might have to look into that

is it something that could get me banned though

and does your friend only vpn to jp when they buy or are they always vpnd to jp when they play?

[lament shuttle]

Only when they buy, they live in Germany but play on NA server lol

[vapid river]

why are they on na?

[lament shuttle]

Cuz most ppl they play games with are in NA

[vapid river]

rip

[lament shuttle]

And he’s like a foreign student in Germany

[vapid river]

oh he's not a native

to germany

[lament shuttle]

Nah Taiwanese/american

[vapid river]

also

this is wild

moving mort down?

i might hate the guy

but he makes jiyan viable

idiots

rage bait

[neat robin]

Idk why they moved him
Nothing changed he’s still the only heavy outro rn

[vapid river]

rage bait

if he moves down to t1 then jiyan moves down to t1

imo

[lament shuttle]

I Never look at the tier lists in these games

[dapper oar]

is this prydwen?

[vapid river]

yes

[vapid river]

coward

[neat robin]

Is spectro rover fun
I dont really like the havoc one

[fervent plover]

does this work for both pc and phone

[vapid river]

worked for pc >.>

[fervent plover]

oohh tyty

is it applicable for everything?

like bp included

[lament shuttle]

Any cash shop purchases yes

[vapid river]

it changes all the values to jpy

[fervent plover]

ahh ok

[vapid river]

12000 yen

~80 usd

[lament shuttle]

It’s like 12k yen for the big pack which is like 78ish usd or smth

[rotund drum]

i dont have enough dennies to level roccia so im trying to do the pincer event for the rewards but the event apparently cant handle occasional connection drops

if it lags at all the waves just stop spawning

good coding

[vapid river]

jiyan literally too good

[knotty fiber]

I love my blue woman

[neat robin]

Whos that?

[knotty fiber]

Selena in pgr

[neat robin]

Ah

She is pretty

[rotund drum]

gacha roccia's succ range is pretty gross

they'll probs nerf it

[neat robin]

Holy shit can you stop

They wont nerf an officially released char

[rotund drum]

they nerfed venti because his succ was too good

[neat robin]

What are they gonna do the bosses already cant be cc

[vapid river]

ninjy just don't bother. save yourself some braincells

let him talk into a void

it's never worth it

[neat robin]

New illusive mode, weekly 160 astrites apparently

[vapid river]

oo

i'll take an extra 4 pulls a month

is this in beta rn?

[neat robin]

I’m guessing

[vapid river]

soon™️

[neat robin]

First batch is spectro
That lists trial chars jinhsi phoebe sk verina

[vapid river]

can't wait for fusion

oh

trial characters?

[neat robin]

Illusive always has trial chars

You can use your own

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/phoebe-wuthering-waves-phoebe-wuwa-wuwa-wuthering-gif-17427240854026907269

The Phoebe shilling is yuge.

Second coming of Jinhsi fr fr.

[dapper oar]

she got buffed? do we know her kit already?

I'm still confused abt her whole kit i don't understand

[lyric fjord]

she has 2 modes. 1 of them, confession, is useless atm.
The absolution mode is a damage dealing stance which takes some field time but we don't know yet how fast her concerto is and if we can quickswap her attacks.
She has very large AoEs and her outro is a very strong nuke.

She is also tied to spectro rover (absolutely mandatory) in absolution mode, until a replacement is released.

[dapper oar]

damn.. so likely Zani is the spectro rover replacement then

[neat robin]

Yes

Or zani is more onfield for phoebe to use confession mode

[dapper oar]

so the confession mode is useless because her forte isn't complete yet ?

I've seen videos saying her forte isn't "usable" yet

[neat robin]

That half of her kit yeah

You want to use her absolution half for now

[lyric fjord]

her forte was bugged in private server and we couldn't see it in action in the first 10 days. Now we've seen it. Confession mode has a sort of blue spiked ball floating next to her while absolution has a golden book floating on her right.

The only stuff missing is quickswap, concerto generation and the pull strength on her skill

[dapper oar]

she has a pull too on her skill?

[lucid pebble]

Fuck, I can’t not build her now.

[lyric fjord]

she can immobilize with the initial E and her autos to enemies inside the area while she is outside should pull enemies back to its center, but we've not seen it in action yet

[lament shuttle]

Who r u kidding you whale you’d build em even if you pitied

[lucid pebble]

[neat robin]

I have nothing to do until brant/2.2 so building srover now

Suffers same issue as phoebe lol
87 cr already (eog) with only 2 cr subs

[knotty fiber]

not because of her forte, but because of her team

her DoT kit is a fully enabler/support kit

[lament shuttle]

This skin takes 7 days to get

[knotty fiber]

and there's no one in the game right now that needs a DoT enabler/support

[lament shuttle]

And it’s just bubbles of un-skipable dialogue ??

[neat robin]

Its like 30s of your day

I’ll take it

[blissful tulip]

I understand 2.0 is packed as is but I would have loved something similar to 1.2's event

[lyric fjord]

we'll get a festival at some point

[lament shuttle]

Yeah the XY thing

Is what I was expecting at least

[neat robin]

Why would you expect seomthing like that in a x.0 patch

Id guess 2.2 or later again

After new area is settled down

[lucid pebble]

When does the echo farm illusive realm come back?

[neat robin]

Theres some realm mode in beta rn

[neat robin]

.

[lucid pebble]

[rotund drum]

roccia's hyper tornado puts her at fly height

meanwhile CLT

[vapid river]

you went out of your way to pull for her why wouldn't you build her?

[lament shuttle]

Cuz whale

[lucid pebble]

I was building pity for Phoebe.

[lucid pebble]

[vapid river]

*i was rolling in hopes for early

[lucid pebble]

I got her the second 10-pull and figured I should try luccsaccing for weapon.

And when I got weapon in first 10-pull, I figured might as well spend the rest of my Rina primos to fish for E2.

[neon falcon]

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/love-gif-22140682

[shut isle]

“Building pity” aka whale gambling addict

[lucid pebble]

[rotund drum]

i like that you can play roccia by literally just holding one button

if you hold LMB she does charge heavy > dropkicks on loop automatically

[knotty fiber]

blue woman

[vapid river]

if the last two

are cr/cdmg

i'll never complain about echoes ever again

[neat robin]

Gonna guess they werent crit

[vapid river]

i haven't rolled yet

i'm still praying

[neat robin]

good luck

[vapid river]

they were not cr

or cdmg

[neat robin]

Well rip

[vapid river]

too promising

[shut isle]

whos that

[vapid river]

selena from pgr

[quasi sable]

https://tenor.com/view/phoebe-wuthering-waves-phoebe-wuwa-wuwa-wuthering-gif-17427240854026907269

[edgy cobalt]

phoebers

[neat robin]

Take bets

[lucid pebble]

ATK%, ATK, Skill DMG%

[neat robin]

Pls

[lucid pebble]

[cobalt apex]

wtf

[lucid pebble]

[neat robin]

Energy heavy def

I mean

Its 3/5 for her

[lucid pebble]

[neat robin]

Her bear is only 2/5

The problem
This doesnt fix my missing cr sub

[lucid pebble]

I literally can't use this echo.

[neat robin]

..

[lucid pebble]

[neat robin]

+42 glacio

[cobalt apex]

no atk 😔

[neat robin]

Thats with ele/atk too 😭

[cobalt apex]

😭

[neat robin]

This is the dumb thing I need to replace

4/5 but its missing cr

[lucid pebble]

Is it worth giving up 2x ATK?

[neat robin]

Ok time to go test in tower

If this atk 3cost is actually better

Rip I need to test on rider

[vapid river]

i'd keep the double atk

[neat robin]

Crownless last tower was easier

[vapid river]

it's a 5.3cdmg difference

i think atk is more important than res skill

just one rot bosses and you won't need er

[cobalt apex]

just dont need the er in the first place

[neat robin]

The thing was an improvment

Honestly I’m gonna stop for now, she has 25 free cr (so 88/304) I really need to go find double crit 1costs for camy now

[vapid river]

ye that's why i'm okay with her being at 65%

the ele 3 cost she has is just too good to settle for any random double crit

[neat robin]

Yeah thats same as mine

Needs a 5/5 to replace this

[lament shuttle]

Some ppl don’t struggle

[burnt shoal]

https://vxtwitter.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/1882661045225017391

[rotund drum]

rip me

[winged belfry]

Relax, event lasts for like 21 days, and your only need 7 logins

[rotund drum]

implying

i had to uninstall the game to make room for ff7re so i wont be able to log in for a while

i can uninstall genshit instead i guess

[lament shuttle]

Skill issue buy more ram

||this is a joke||

[warped willow]

you can just install more ram

[cobalt apex]

real

[edgy cobalt]

I actually bought more ram cuz of wuwa

then again no gamer should live with 8gb

[vapid river]

mods

.>

acid

ban this fool

[solemn robin]

breh

[vapid river]

ngl

idk who here can ban

[solemn robin]

any mod

tc or not

[rotund drum]

i had to mod my "gaming" laptop because it only came with 8gb of ram

idk why manufacturers do that

sell a pc with a perfectly good cpu and gpu then just gimp it with bad ram

you wont actually save that much money on cutting out the ram and most consumers wont realize they're being bottlenecked

they'll just think its a bad cheap pc

[lament shuttle]

Cuz they want you to buy a new one in two years

If you could just upgrade it they wouldn’t make money that’s why they all solder ram now lol

[rotund drum]

iirc one ram stick was soldered but there was a free slot

they literally just took it out for reasons

[edgy cobalt]

yeah mine had a free slot

you just got pwned

[rotund drum]

if they wanted to cut costs they should have just downgraded the GPU and kept the 16gb of ram

i was planning to upgrade when i bought it since it was really cheap, it was just a weird design decision

i think it was like $300 for a 5600H and 3050 Ti with 8gb ram

[lament shuttle]

I remember when top of the line laptops didn’t have ssds

And booting took over a minute

[rotund drum]

thats still faster than wuwa lol

[neon falcon]

[rotund drum]

im trying to find the vid where the guy does all his star rail dailies in the time it takes for wuwa to boot

[lucid pebble]

[lucid pebble]

[opaque flume]

Thanks I’m totally gonna click this

[rotund drum]

i feel like gacha roccia's damage is actually not bad and the succ is op esp compared to existing succs

her biggest issue is probably having like zero knockback resistance

even cuddle wuddles knock her out of her stand mode

they probably made it bad on purpose so you'd have to whale for s1

[opaque flume]

“Whale for s1” in a game where you can buy cons

[rotund drum]

yeah for like a million rolls worth of starglitter

[opaque flume]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/765789789047226368/1025672132237197363/gat.gif

[edgy cobalt]

https://youtu.be/BsjPnOf1Nw0?si=sxq1gEXaS7NauVrM

lol

[lament shuttle]

So both good as expected, idk when the 8% extra tsps will ever matter lol

[edgy cobalt]

his sanhua clear is 1s faster but even then we would say similar performance anyways

so it comes down to “will rc get the zhezhi treatment and enable future dps”

[lament shuttle]

Yeah but it’s prob also cuz the mob doesn’t have enough hp

They both basically one cycled it lol

[placid holly]

Yeah, all it demonstrates is that Camellya meets the DPS to clear in one rotation

[lament shuttle]

Yeah that’s what I’m thinking too

[edgy cobalt]

its gonna be skip angle for me until rerun just like what I did with zhezhi but I need to get lucky lol

like again

[lament shuttle]

I’m more missing main dps than sub dps atp

[neat robin]

I kinda have everyone
Jinhsi is the only char suffering now (and technically jiyan ig who knows when we get a heavy buffer)

[edgy cobalt]

[burnt shoal]

how do u solve this

woa

[lucid pebble]

Move the pillars until you can use the mega succ from the book to get all the red orbs at once.

[burnt shoal]

i think all the three red orbs are as near as possible though in my setup?

can't find a position that lets me get all three at once rip

[lucid pebble]

Are you using the big succ?

You have to interact with the book.

[burnt shoal]

ohhh i try that when i come back ther

https://vxtwitter.com/GrayRavenRadio/status/1882551159346659763

[opaque flume]

Welcome back purple xiao

[quasi sable]

Have a question

Is Rococo good pull?

[neat robin]

Shes decent
But sanhua exists

[blissful tulip]

Fantastic if you hated Cameylla

She's a great improvement for HMC

[quasi sable]

No I don't hate her

[quasi sable]

Ok but how much is the difference between them

[vapid river]

Not enough to pull unless you hate sanhua or really like rococo

[rotund drum]

roccia has a slightly better buff, does more damage and has a succ that's actually good for once unlike current succers

but is a 5* and requires sig ofc

depends on how much you can afford to whale with feeb around the corner

if you already got lingyanged while pulling for carlotta and could use a crit fist just for the statstick shes ok

[quasi sable]

Well I already pulled carlotta after lose to lion on her banner

I guess I'll skip for fibi then

Mod please

[dapper oar]

skyward, scatter, skyward, scatter

[neat robin]

Wow I cant wait for this hecate holo they’re adding

Looks pretty (make these phantom skins pls)

[vapid river]

wish jue would get one

[opaque flume]

Who can you even use hecate on

[warped willow]

first time seeing 10mbps download speeds

[lyric fjord]

zhezhi

[winged belfry]

Zhezhi, Yinlin (difference over her new Mephis ain't that big), and Yuanwu - if you care enough to gear him up.

[neat robin]

Hecate is for empyrean yinlin

Oh

My chat wasnt caught up lol

[lament shuttle]

It’s a minor improvement for each but good because you don’t need to proc outros in QS comps

[quasi sable]

Can Yinlin

Use Empyrean

And is it better than moonlit

[lament shuttle]

Yes to both

But if y ou have a good moonlit set it’s not worth it

[quasi sable]

So the difference isn't that huge

[lament shuttle]

yep

[quasi sable]

Got it

Thanks snoopy

[lilac hare]

An early concept art (2022) of the Fractsidus

The one on the left is Phrolova ig

And scar

[neat robin]

That blob looks suspiciously like baizhis dragon pet

[vapid river]

i wish the wall of fucking text over the designs wasn't there

that'd be cool

[lilac hare]

Fr

[rotund drum]

moonlit only works with outros iirc while empyrean is literally just press one button and forget

but yeah its a pain to farm

something to work on while afkpanning tacet fields i guess

[lament shuttle]

Yeah that’s why I said empyrean is def better for QS

[rotund drum]

they'll probably creep it soon like they did with the old sets anyway

[lucid pebble]

[neat robin]

[lilac hare]

Sumeru-like region in 4.0+ pls

[cobalt apex]

brazil

[lucid pebble]

Rover is also leader of Fractsidus.

True and real.

[neat robin]

Alri at enough pulls for guaranteed char
Just ~70 more for the sig as well

[blissful tulip]

We should have a 1200 astrite event soon yeah? I'd like Roccia's weapon

[neat robin]

I have a feeling I’m gonna end up skipping brant for cantarella which is just more time to save

Unless sk rerun

[rotund drum]

roccia's sig is actually a bit better than it looks since it procs when you do a basic attack rather than when you do basic attack damage

im not sure if heavy attacks count as basic attack inputs but iirc plunges do

and 99% of the time you have to input a BA to get HA anyway

[wraith steeple]

i cri

[neat robin]

Kuro cooks too much idk how I’m supposed to get everybody

[wraith steeple]

thats a first lmao

i need a brant buddy

qq

[neat robin]

If sk really reruns I’m screwed

I dont want brant without his sig

[wraith steeple]

you don't have sk weapon huh?

[neat robin]

No 😭

[wraith steeple]

dammit im fuckdd if she re runs too

i want her

[neat robin]

She’s kinda vanished from rerun leaks
But id still guess 2.1 1st, with changli in 2.1 2nd

[wraith steeple]

but this bitch coming in 2.2 could be crazy

from s healer perspective

[neat robin]

Idc about phrolova

[wraith steeple]

not her lmao

[neat robin]

But havoc coord healer yes

[wraith steeple]

the healer

[neat robin]

Pretty pastel lady

[wraith steeple]

yes

her

[neat robin]

With skill outro

[wraith steeple]

camy and hrover want that ass

[neat robin]

Camy doesnt

[wraith steeple]

why not

???

[neat robin]

She needs sanhua/roccia outro more

[wraith steeple]

ughhhh

what is her damn outro?

[neat robin]

Skill/havoc

As of current leaks

[wraith steeple]

mmcht

[neat robin]

Sanhua is more basic%, and ofc roccia is 25/25 havoc/basic which is just better for camy

[wraith steeple]

now if she boosts havoc dmg atk and crit then I'm putting that ass right on camy team and don't let her lower res

thats gon be tough

[neat robin]

Coord havoc will be for jinhsi ngl

Well

She’d fill same role like zz did for hsi
Not quite the proper teammate but covers 2/3 things jinhsi wants

[wraith steeple]

right

technically 2.5 since she heals but lmao yeah

i guess sk will do that

[neat robin]

I mean. rejuv yuanwu doesnt heal hsi lol

[wraith steeple]

were we not talking about new girl

[neat robin]

Hsi doesnt really need her as a healer

Was my point

Skill outro + nonspectro coord

[wraith steeple]

well yes ofc I'm saying it's additive hence y I said 2.5

[neat robin]

Ah

[wraith steeple]

not needed but is nice

now the day we got spectro coord

with skill dmg increase

[neat robin]

Is still whatever

[wraith steeple]

plus spectro dmg deepen

[neat robin]

Jinhsis best teammate wont be spectro

[wraith steeple]

im so confused

[neat robin]

More stacks if they’re different element

[wraith steeple]

ohhhh

thats funny

[neat robin]

Each element type has its own timer

That why she always needs a non spectro teammate for fast forte

[wraith steeple]

atp just gimme a fast coordinated attack who gives skill dmg bonus and all dmg deepen ty and let them lower res to as cherry on top

[neat robin]

Now

Coord havoc healer with phoebe/srover for spectro shred

[wraith steeple]

prolly srover since it's much more simple to proc

[neat robin]

This is all speculation though who knows how good canta coord will be / how many times it’ll hit

Itd be kinda cool if the coord hits heal when they do dmg I’m ngl

[wraith steeple]

that what I thought I'm my head

automatically lol

sigh this mf brant has the second highest scaling for a forte lmao

ily brant bb

[knotty fiber]

lmao it's funny how all the lines went from short to long

[lucid pebble]

Is my Roccia bricked if I don't have 70 CR?

[rotund drum]

yeah

[burnt shoal]

including sig weapon or not counting signature?

[rotund drum]

i have about 70/133 before sig iirc

its a lot easier to get really high crit in this game

than in hoyo games

[opaque flume]

How tf can people solo danjin

I don’t get it

How are they doing damage

[rotund drum]

memes

[dusty crown]

Every time I play her I never understand why sometimes I can only cast her skill once

And other times like 3 times

[opaque flume]

Bro didn’t read the kit

[dusty crown]

[opaque flume]

It’s based on where you are in the BA string

[rotund drum]

i dont think anyone reads those novels

[lucid pebble]

Okay, goomba stomping enemies is pretty fun.

[rotund drum]

a 5* dps with havoc/HA amp would be funny

then you could run dual dps roccia

[knotty fiber]

[rotund drum]

good enough

[vapid river]

3/5 is usable

when hp/def scalers so we can game the system into giving out good double atk double crit pieces

[neat robin]

Just pretend you’re building yuanwu ig

[opaque flume]

I’m ngl I have been deleting everything with hp or def that’s not the healing set for hp

I just delete all my def

[vapid river]

same

[neat robin]

So when she reruns & I get her sig

I guess I need to refarm a cdmg fallacy

I have almost perfect er subs rn though (248 before buffs if with sig)

[knotty fiber]

2/5

what makes you think it's 3/5

lmfao

[vapid river]

oh... wrong spectro unit

[cobalt apex]

:Life:

[neat robin]

+27 cr from 5pc & s1 or whatever

Why does srover have so much base def

[rotund drum]

they'll probably add a new rover soon since its 2.0 already

scales off def

[burnt shoal]

it's rover

[lament shuttle]

https://x.com/wuthering_waves/status/1884073927540105494?t=edCaXy_bzzKLkLVIudDWtg free 10 pull

Wuthering Waves (@Wuthering_Waves) on X

[Celebration Aftertunes] Gratitude for Companionship
Food, drink, songs, and laughter—amid the season of revelry, we keep the festivities alive without pause. How do you like your time in Rinascita, Rover?
Aftertunes of the celebration still linger, and now, a couple of friends

X · Jan 28, 2025, 3:00 AM

[rotund drum]

game just crashed on me for doing a calyx

stuttering waves

[lament shuttle]

Bitch

[vapid river]

.>?

[lament shuttle]

There was some of those phishing steam links

[vapid river]

oh

[lament shuttle]

God damn

[vapid river]

been getting a lot of them recently

mods another one

tk

@fading wing

.>

[neat robin]

..is this just free 10 pull?

Like no event for it?

[blissful tulip]

Yes

[lament shuttle]

Yes I shared it above just login xd

[neat robin]

Oop I just logged in lol

Sanhua skin tomorrw too

107 pulls & guaranteed char slowly getting there

[rotund drum]

i dont get why he's john wicktorio

is it supposed to be a factorio reference

because you just automate the same repetitive tasks over and over

[lucid pebble]

[uneven flame]

John Wick

[vapid river]

ofc they get the reference, they're just hating

[neat robin]

[vapid river]

nice

[lyric fjord]

The average pull for char + weapon is around 140?

[neat robin]

Around there, if you win char 5050

I’m about 20 pity on weapon banner waiting for sk sig

[lyric fjord]

I meant including 5050

Ok 74 + 69 according to astrite gg website

So i dont have enough for phoebe's weapon if i want both her and zani, with my 90 pulls right now

[vapid river]

taking calculated risks?

what kinda gacha player are you

https://tenor.com/bUDLy.gif

[neat robin]

You have all 2.1 & 2.2 to save for zani anyways (stc)

Phoebe 2.1 and then zani 2.3 as of current leaks

[lyric fjord]

i've been way too lucky recently, i know i'm about to get shafted soon, so i'm playing it safe

[delicate skiff]

2.2 is Cantarella no?