Roccia is specifically havoc + basic
Less universal
#・wuwa-lounge
neat robin
rotund drum
anyway the rates in this game are so high that pulling an s0 5* isnt really a huge investment
rotund drum
I could use another healer but male 5* pyro is kind of a dealbreaker for me
neat robin
I’m just sad I need to pick brant or cantarella like definitely gonna want the char + sig
Brant looks so fun
But if cantarella has coords she could fit both camy & jinhsi team
rotund drum
i tend to have "good" luck on 5*s in this game so i have a lot of f2p gems saved up
i tend to get lingyang within 10-20 pulls so i always have guarantee
neon falcon
who should i be levelling other than chixia and rover? sk and verina are still kinda far for me
hollow gorge
who should i be levelling other than chixia and rover? sk and verina are still k...
If you plan to get Jinhsi, Yuanwu to 60 lvls is a decent choice, since his last passive skill expands his reso skill, the main thing Jinhsi needs
neon falcon
If you plan to get Jinhsi, Yuanwu to 60 lvls is a decent choice, since his last ...
I'm thinking of maybe getting Carlotta 
Jinshi gameplay from what I tried feels too repetitive
vapid river
I'm thinking of maybe getting Carlotta <:B_ZhongHmm:865024510356226108> Jinshi g...
then you'll want to level taoqi
do you have a weaopn called discord?
neon falcon
neon falcon
how many pulls do you have saved?
i have like...32....but im guaranteed at 72 pity for a character
blissful tulip
Honest to god I think it'll end up being better to raise anyone except Taoqi 
vapid river
vapid river
Honest to god I think it'll end up being better to raise anyone except Taoqi <:A...
38% res skill amp
if bia pulls for lotta
that's the only sdps that's worth a shit
sdps/support
whichever role you wanna slot her in
for her account
no lumi no zz
blissful tulip
Yes, but you waste so much time on her it'll end up being better to use a second damage dealer while Carlotta's core recharges
Although considering Bia's roster, the only feasible option ends up being Chixia or Rover
neon falcon
vapid river
yeah
so taoqi it is
since the realistic plan in the short term at least
is to use chixia to solo a side
on her own
and use rover team on the other
and lotta for middle
again, short term
this is like a 2 week old account
neon falcon
are either of these weapons ok for her?
blissful tulip
She has an Encore team up and ready as well, think it'll end up being possible for Encore team, Rover/Chixia and Carlotta duo with either
neon falcon
im not sure how to play her i still havent tried
blissful tulip
are either of these weapons ok for her?
4* options as a whole are poor
But between the two the latter is better
vapid river
relativistic jet is good
neon falcon
thank u thank u
vapid river
i mean
they're all within a couple percent of each other
the downside to 4* weapons
neon falcon
vapid river
but being able to ult more, with relativistic, should net more dmg
rotund drum
well a couple percent of nothing is still nothing
vapid river
if you solo chixia undying flame isn't worth it
rotund drum
hopefully they add 4.5*s or something
vapid river
there's no intro to proc
vapid river
<:k_sad:838813945833455666>
ye i would suggest going for lotta's weapon too if you get her
so you can use it on both lotta and chixia
and mort(if you get jiyan or someone else who needs heavy atk dmg buff)
rotund drum
is this a meme account flex or are you actually recommending pulling a 5* sig for a starter 4*
blissful tulip
Chixia's fine, still pretty great all things considered
And you can swap weapons in ToA in-between rounds
vapid river
it's almost like you didn't read what i said
rotund drum
yeah swap it with ______
rotund drum
there's a reason no one actually use static mist before charlotta
despite it having crit
vapid river
if pull lotta
pull sig
since it's quite versatile
can't wait for tower to reset though
wonder what we're gonna get
hollow gorge
there's a reason no one actually use static mist before charlotta
Depending. I cleared all red mobs except elemental blobs with lvl 30-40 Mortefi and Static Mist on the first week of the game. Otherwise nobody used it probably
vapid river
static is meant for mort or any pistol sdps
increase er for the user
increase atk for next resonator after outro
hollow gorge
Well, Mortefi was my main DPS at that time
vapid river
that's a sad day indeed
blissful tulip
Well, Mortefi was my main DPS at that time
Not the worst idea now with the new set
vapid river
my mort in shambles
hollow gorge
I mean... It only took me 1 hour of kiting for each of the high lvl red mobs, except bear . Bear was the easiest
vapid river
while you were doing that i was rerolling accounts for jiyan+sig
hollow gorge
while you were doing that i was rerolling accounts for jiyan+sig
Great fun I guess
rotund drum
static is meant for mort or any pistol sdps
its still considerably better than any 4* option just from the base atk and crit sub alone
4*s in general are just shit
honestly carlotta's sig isnt gonna be that much better for anyone who doesnt use skill damage
vapid river
there's a reason no one actually use static mist before charlotta
then don't say dumb shit like this
you're contradicting yourself
rotund drum
the point is that you dont pull a sig for a 4*
vapid river
no one used it
better than 4*
rotund drum
when even the free standard 5* isnt even worth using
hollow gorge
nah, we were both suffering to some degree
It wouldn't take this long if the devs didn't put some crazy short evade distances. Get slightly away from the spawn, and they Regen health. Freaking scorpions regened their HP 3 times
vapid river
the point is that you dont pull a sig for a 4*
that wasn't my original point anyway
are you being 3head on purpose
or did you just not read what i actually said twice?
if pull lotta
pull sig
that's what i said
then went on to explain it can be used for other pistol users for tower
it's like you're purposely being brain damaged
vapid river
It wouldn't take this long if the devs didn't put some crazy short evade distanc...
leifa and i fought the scorpions on like the 3rd day? i clung to a wall and she ran back and died over and over again 
hollow gorge
leifa and i fought the scorpions on like the 3rd day? i clung to a wall and she ...
Well, the evade distance was so stupid short, they lost aggro even with player still within the same cavern. It's like birbs losing aggro and regening in first ToA
Basically, you had to keep just slightly away their one shot breath, or they full Regen
vapid river
didn't have that problem in co-op 
i hung onto the wall and just waited for leifa to eventually kill them
hollow gorge
I didnt have any issues with those solo
My Mortefi was lvl 20 something at that time. And Scorpions are fire resistant
hollow gorge
The game was pretty buggy at that time. My bear echo disappeared in the 2 minutes it took me to post a screenshot in discord. The only time an echo disappeared on me, I still have PTSD
And I kinda needed that echo
neat robin
The single bug I ever had was a polygon mort
winged belfry
I sometimes get memory leaks that crashes they cause on PC, but that might be related to the fact that I also usually have like 70 Firefox pages open, at the same time, and have two instances of emulator open, all while playing WuWa
hollow gorge
What are these echoes. Game, please💀
winged belfry
At least you are getting doubt crit. Meanwhile I haven't had a single double crit 3 cost the who's patch
Best I get is 3x useful stats, but never double Crit
neat robin
Aww roccia got a music video for her trailer
rotund drum
roccia x6 go go go
dusty crown
At least you are getting doubt crit. Meanwhile I haven't had a single double cri...
i've only had one single double crit
all costs
quasi sable
Do we have info about reruns other than changli in 2.1?
knotty fiber
so Fibi's busted sequence is now also S3
she got a base kit buff
from what I'm looking at rn
her dmg is really big
probably because of the lack of quickswap ability
quasi sable
I see
knotty fiber
but it's strong from what I see
S0R1 Fibi has 150% frazzle amp
and -10% spectro res
quasi sable
I assume there's no dmg formula of frazzle either
knotty fiber
what I don't understand is this
When the Spectro Frazzle effect deals damage to enemies, extend Spectro Frazzle's damage-dealing cycle by 50%.
is this a bad effect
I understand this as "increase the trigger interval by half"
knotty fiber
she can now cast 4 EHAs in 1 cycle
it used to be 4 too but there wasn't the skill dmg
quasi sable
it used to be 4 too but there wasn't the skill dmg
What EHA?
knotty fiber
I understand this as "increase the trigger interval by half"
apparently this is the case
100% amp but takes 1.5 times longer to deal dot
winged belfry
How competitive is her frazzle?
Frazzle unfortunately scales only for level, and from things that buff specifically it
A bit like transformative reaction
But now you cannot build EM
But there are effects that provide Frazzle damage up
Pheobe has +100%
Her Sig has 50%
These things stack additively
So Pheobe will her weapon and buff will have 2.5 multiplier on Frazzle
quasi sable
How many times do they stack?
quasi sable
Frazzle unfortunately scales only for level, and from things that buff specifica...
So her frazzle is competitive then
Also is her sig a must pull
winged belfry
Base Frazzle damage is like 4700 something on 10 stacks
With there Sig and buff, it's like 11000
winged belfry
So her frazzle is competitive then
That being said, there were beta changes a few hours ago. And I still have digested all of that
quasi sable
Jsterns?
winged belfry
Jsterns?
And they have video of new changes
Her ring now like 4 times larger radius
vapid river
wait
his forte dmg was originally like 550% wasn't it?
then it went to 831
now it's 1322????
cobalt apex
lmao
lilac hare
Event weapon
burnt shoal
rip low record
robust axle
Event weapon
knotty fiber
i used to pray for times like this to rhyme like this
Ah btw
SH Hypercarry Brant > SH Tsubaki
By about 8%? Maybe?
vapid river
knotty fiber
That's with the new calc
vapid river
where can i see these numbers
i trust you, but ik i'm gonna talk to someone in a twtich chat
and they're gonna call me out
knotty fiber
don't know
vapid river
then how do you know about 
knotty fiber
Fibi is also crazy rn
She does tons of dmg but unfortunately no actual teammate
Has to go with SRover
cobalt apex
Fibi is also crazy rn
naisu
quasi sable
Event weapon
How much is the comparison between event and her sig
cobalt apex
surely skeeper isnt 2.1 and force me to skip fibi rite
robust axle
SH Hypercarry Brant > SH Tsubaki
knotty fiber
Fibi really needs a support for her dps form
knotty fiber
SH = Sanhua
lyric fjord
How weird, now phoebe's outro and lib are no longer amplified in absolution state but starflash still is. Means half her kit still has heavy diminishing returns from getting buffs from a potential spectro dmg boosting outro from an ally
quasi sable
SH Hypercarry Brant > SH Tsubaki
Brant deals more than camy?!
lilac hare
SH Hypercarry Brant > SH Tsubaki
With the new energy set?
quasi sable
Do we have info about Zani role
robust axle
SH = Sanhua
changli brant sanhua the dream team
knotty fiber
With the new energy set?
Yeah
robust axle
vapid river
i'm imagining it to be like jianxin with that one weapon
it can heal, but should it?
knotty fiber
He heals when he does shit onfield
robust axle
his healing is probably enough
quasi sable
Idk which one to pull
vapid river
the best healing is dodging anyway /s
knotty fiber
May I ask what were the mainstats used here? Fusion+er?
Yeah
blissful tulip
SH Hypercarry Brant > SH Tsubaki
Oh dear
lyric fjord
Phoebe's confession state was basically nerfed then, wonder if they'll increase SF's dmg in the same patch
knotty fiber
If you don't have sig then fusion main is not an option
knotty fiber
Phoebe's confession state was basically nerfed then, wonder if they'll increase ...
Yeah kind of crapped her personal dmg in confession
Currently
The frazzle is not that strong imo
Even though she amps the dmg by 2 times at S0
The interval between each tick is longer
1.5 times longer
lyric fjord
Yeah its chip dmg even if you invest in it
lament shuttle
wtf if tsubaki
knotty fiber
Maybe Zani will make use of it
lament shuttle
Is
quasi sable
Ye
vapid river
like how roccia is rococo
quasi sable
Rococo?
lament shuttle
What a random name
quasi sable
That sounds like a cereal brand
robust axle
i gotta get the 5* sword....
but i dont have any good broadblades.....
chat what should i do
lament shuttle
it's fucking
It just sounds like a guy name
knotty fiber
I'm gonna start fucking up you mfs with Chun
lyric fjord
Even with s2r1 SF dmg would be around 75k over 22s, its so bad lmao
I hope the base dmg gets increased
quasi sable
Wtf is chun??
knotty fiber
I think that DoT is there for a special mechanism rather than raw dmg
cobalt apex
knotty fiber
Maybe Zani is gonna have something like
lyric fjord
I think that DoT is there for a special mechanism rather than raw dmg
Why would her s2 amp its dmg then
knotty fiber
Status tallying isn't something uncommon anymore
quasi sable
What's status tallying?
lyric fjord
If zani eats stacks it would explain why phoebe generates so many. But still feels weird for her to have so many boosts to the dot dmg
lyric fjord
Cute lost ark pfp btw
knotty fiber
What's status tallying?
Calculating all the dmg that a specific status can deal
vapid river
oh the momoko?
quasi sable
Got it
vapid river
or w/e it's called
quasi sable
Thanks for explaining
lyric fjord
Mokoko
vapid river
yeah that thing
lament shuttle
lyric fjord
Phenomenal game, but basically a full time job
lyric fjord
Same
lament shuttle
Phenomenal game, but basically a full time job
Really fun but aids to keep up with yeah
vapid river
i still plan on pulling zani and doing nothing with her
lyric fjord
Going for s0r0 phoebe for zani, using event weapon
vapid river
knotty fiber
Using the Frazzle value on the enemy as the base value, then amplify it with whatever value under certain conditions
I must go for Fibi's sig
Not because of the stats
But because of the drip
lament shuttle
Getting brand carry to acceptable lvls of dmg is gonna be hard
quasi sable
I must go for Fibi's sig
What's the % between the event and her sig?
quasi sable
Event weapon
@knotty fiber
lament shuttle
Since you need 2x crit and ER on each piece and there’s no domain to farm plus er mainstat feels farer at 3 cost
lyric fjord
Her sig looks a bit weak, it only buffs 2/3 of her kit
Her outro is nuclear and her ult does nice dmg in abso
knotty fiber
Event weapon
Oh boy the stats look sad
vapid river
Chun = Camellya CN name
knotty fiber
The dmg bonus isn't far off from sig
But the base atk and main stat are the issue
vapid river
at least they're consistent
knotty fiber
at least they're consistent
It's the same shit
knotty fiber
It's just they call the flower with a different name in each language lol
And I personally prefer the sounding of Tsubaki
Camellya reminds me of
quasi sable
The dmg bonus isn't far off from sig
But the base atk and main stat are the issu...
I'll just wait for the calc between event and sig
lament shuttle
I'll just wait for the calc between event and sig
It’s going be 30-40% like all 4* to 5* sig
knotty fiber
Oh god I don't even wanna explain cuz the word is filtered for whatever the fucking reason
lament shuttle
Wait really?
R5 bp crit weapons are still 30% worse than r1 sig on most characters
quasi sable
R5 bp crit weapons are still 30% worse than r1 sig on most characters
What about 5* standard vs sig?
vapid river
like 15-20
lyric fjord
Standard is garbage on phoebe
lament shuttle
Depends which
vapid river
largest difference on prydwen is ~18%
at least for mdps
stringmaster shouldn't count
it's too good
lament shuttle
Yeah but idk if they account for all the atk buffs we get from supports
lament shuttle
What about xy sig vs standard
He posted it above
quasi sable
My network bruh
vapid river
i thought we were just talking purely from sig vs standard
with buffs it's probably way bigger than 30% even
quasi sable
I heard camy sig is like 20% better
lament shuttle
Yeah well r5 is ???
lyric fjord
lament shuttle
I know a few ppl who do
quasi sable
Well I assume ppl did since there's no losing in weapon banner
vapid river
i have s6r1 lotta >.>
and i'll probably r5 her on rerun
same with jiyan
probably gonna be the only way to keep him valid in the future anyway
vapid river
you think so?
knotty fiber
Currently her sig gives the highest amount of dmg bonus, albeit being conditional
knotty fiber
And with proper build, which is atk ele, it should be
knotty fiber
she's almost always doing basic damage
She kinda has ult dmg lol
lyric fjord
Btw they still didnt change phoebe's sig to cdmg. With perfect echoes you'll always overcap ur crit rate with her sig
knotty fiber
or do you mean the concerto bit?
Yeah, has to use the concerto skill for the 2nd half to work
vapid river
ye
knotty fiber
Btw they still didnt change phoebe's sig to cdmg. With perfect echoes you'll alw...
I AM already overcapping
💀
Without SK
knotty fiber
I have 40% crate with just echo subs
lyric fjord
Lol
lament shuttle
Tbh if zani also uses the set and is crit starved you can just give her the echos
lyric fjord
Phoebe is probably not getting moonlit when zani arrives, they're likely to prefer quickswap since phoebe needs to go back in to reapply her stuff
knotty fiber
But she still doesn't do dmg
lol
Moonlit is still good because the buff doesn't go away after swapping
knotty fiber
nuh uh
lyric fjord
robust axle
if only all buffs stayed with quickswapping
neat robin
Outros 
lament shuttle
if only all buffs stayed with quickswapping
It did in beta
Or they worded such that it did
robust axle
It did in beta
ye ik
warped willow
cobalt apex
joever
warped willow
it’s so rover.
winged belfry
peak achivements
vapid river
vapid river
.>
lyric fjord
just realized, it's possible that phoebe will start with 0 prayer in toa lol
lyric fjord
i'm expecting to be included in her inherent skill, because being useless for the first 24 seconds is very weird
opaque flume
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061034680742322206/1330899422443208787/i...
It’s in ur mail
hollow gorge
just realized, it's possible that phoebe will start with 0 prayer in toa lol
I am thinking of getting a good overworlder next. Meaning, good mobility+good ranged skill dmg+some AoE. Which looks kinda like Phoebe? So I don't care if she is trash in ToA if she has those qualities
lyric fjord
she has 2 aerial long dashes and doesn't need her ult to deal dmg so yes
probably the best in the overworld actually
rotund drum
CMLY and CLT work for that too
lyric fjord
and her outro nukes in a large aoe
rotund drum
CLT's ult takes a while but her skill usually does enough that you dont need it
lyric fjord
carlotta is quite good yeah, but she kind of needs a fast concerto character with her
rotund drum
nah you just dont worry about her ult or forte
just E > E > Q > swap
bring two dps
tawny junco
So which 5* standard weapon do I pick? Just the sword?
rotund drum
sword or gun if you dont want to whale for CLT sig
tawny junco
I got Carlotta sig
lyric fjord
or moonlit if you have another rejuv holder
verina has the fastest concerto regen in the game
tawny junco
I don't have shit yet for now, but I'll keep it in mind. I don't want to keep focusing only on Carlotta so I'll move on to Verina next
tawny junco
verina has the fastest concerto regen in the game
Do the substats matter btw?
lyric fjord
just stack energy regen and if possible some ATK
tawny junco
Energy regen and attack okay got it
tawny junco
just stack energy regen and if possible some ATK
Healing bonus 4cost?
lyric fjord
i guess yes. It's not like you really need a lot of healing tbh
warped willow
👁️ 👁️
my 2k.
neat robin
Bro wtf ive been using camy missing 2 cdmg subs this entire time
Decently successful day
Nm mephis, atk 3cost for camy, good enough nm crownless
hollow gorge
I’m being judged wtf
XLY says it's time to switch game to Re1999
dusty crown
Bro wtf ive been using camy missing 2 cdmg subs this entire time
i've been using zz with a def main state 1-cost this whole time
😭
quasi sable
You're building for rococa?
knotty fiber
yes
cobalt apex
<@694499784509358120> somehow, I got 4/5 already
naisu
warped willow
got my friend into the game
cobalt apex
shouldnt have done that
warped willow
the dude has seen my schizo rants about sk and wants to try it out himself
lilac hare
Brant & Phoebe gameplay against a TD [Latest Version]
winged belfry
Her circle needs to be like double that size
it's like triple the size, if you use it with her Forte
winged belfry
Issue is that people who do showcases cannot comprehend how to do it
lament shuttle
Kit probably not loaded in their version
spice finch
How's her DOT damage? Is it like >10k per hit? Or more
lyric fjord
In confession s0r0, around 8200 every 4.5s
Basically hot garbage. The point is that she applies it easily in that mode, it ticks down slower and has fast concerto.
In the other mode, she applies 1 stack which disappear after 3s then cant apply anything for 24s.
She is not a dot dps
spice finch
So she is thre for the frazzle stacks?
winged belfry
How's her DOT damage? Is it like >10k per hit? Or more
Frazzle procs have base 4700 something damage
Pheobe in confession stake gets +100% boost
her sig is an extra additive +50%
So 10 stack frazzle at E0S1 is like 11k per proc
now, issues is that we don't exacly know how often does she proc
I've see various interpretations of that part
extend Spectro Frazzle's damage-dealing cycle by 50%.
lyric fjord
Seemed clear to me that i was turning the usual 3s into 4.5s
Would be better for her to have shimmer too but she generates so much so easily in confesssion mode that it doesnt matter
winged belfry
Confession mode applies a ton of Frazzle
Absolution mode applies 4 stacks total
Which is not ideal
But I guess it's there mostly just to proc Set effect for 20% CR
Strange thing is, that encore.moe lists her heavy attacks as skill damage
lyric fjord
Absolution mode applies 4 stacks total
How? Its just 1 when she passes in absolution mode, no?
winged belfry
How? Its just 1 when she passes in absolution mode, no?
sorry, it's 5
oh
no
it's 1
So, in absolution state she'll need Spectro Rover for frazzle extension
lyric fjord
Definitely yes
rotund drum
oh they changed the kit
winged belfry
s0r1 <:ASdisgust:631662126938849310>
Unfortunate though is that it's worse here than in HSR
vapid river
the levels of powercreep that exist in hsr can't be found in any gacha
winged belfry
the levels of powercreep that exist in hsr can't be found in any gacha
ummm
tawny junco
the levels of powercreep that exist in hsr can't be found in any gacha
Dokkan
winged belfry
Have you heard of that Gundam gacha
tawny junco
Ah gotcha lmao
vapid river
winged belfry
like man, for that, I think they use log ^2 scale to express powercreep
you get log of one scale
and then put log on what you got in 1st stop
tawny junco
I did hear that Hsr powercreep is bad tho
winged belfry
HSR powercreep wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for HP inflation that comes with it
rotund drum
hsr powercreep is basically just damage inflation
mid heng used to be considered good because he did like 500% damage per turn despite being a huge resource hog
meanwhile the new 5* herta does like 4x that and she's only considered mid tier
tawny junco
HSR powercreep wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for HP inflation that comes with ...
That doesn't sound too bad? I know dokkan 7th anniv powercreep wiped out like 95% of characters making them just unusable in new content
rotund drum
although herta's issue is mostly just being erudition in a destruction meta
they'll probably nerf destruction soon anyway since they want to sell the new remembrance stuff
rotund drum
which was like the last patch lol
winged belfry
seconf to last
rotund drum
herta is fine atm just because moc always caters to the new char
winged belfry
but it's an Erudition meta
rotund drum
and you cant have two destruction teams
well you can have firefly and yunli
although yunli's powerlevel depends a lot on how often she gets to counter
winged belfry
Firefraud is powercrept by fucking Lingsha
her best use case is Fire weakness application
knotty fiber
```extend Spectro Frazzle's damage-dealing cycle by 50%.```
this is a negative effect
increasing the interval between each frazzle proc
rotund drum
its zero-sum i think
frazzle does more but ticks slower
so it lasts longer and deals the same damage
winged belfry
its zero-sum i think
it's big total damage gain, and small DPS gain
That being said, I don't think her Frazzle DMG will be relevant
rotund drum
yeah wasting a rotation on frazzle app is bad
the free stack on activating dps mode is nice i guess
gets you a few extra seconds on top of mc frazzle
winged belfry
Quick calc on MV distributions in Absolution mode
winged belfry
The good:
Total MV is very high.
I assume you'll need around 15s of field to to execute all that, and an actual 25s rotations, which honestly I feel only carlotta And Camellya are able to acchieve
The bad:
Big spread of MVs between diffrent damage types,
lament shuttle
Looks like atk% will be good
lament shuttle
Otherwise, she'll be starved for DMG%
We don’t know her sig effect yet right
lament shuttle
Oh did it get updated
winged belfry
winged belfry
Most characters want double DMG%
lament shuttle
Most characters want double DMG%
I’ve seen atk/dmg% be above just dmg%
Cuz of how much certain sigs give
winged belfry
And yes, she might be the first character for whom overcapping on CR might actually be a an issue
winged belfry
Not even on Carlotta which has a metric ton and a half of DMG% buffs ATK/DMG is better than DMG/DMG
winged belfry
Wait her sig is kinda just
And yes, weapons follow one of few base ATK - substat value formats
lament shuttle
And yes, she might be the first character for whom overcapping on CR might actua...
its not always the case
winged belfry
I'm pretty sure it might be outdated
lament shuttle
And even in your example yes it’s 1% diff but given that each crit substat is 6% additional dmg, the main stats are interchangeable
winged belfry
Of course subs are more imporant
orchid mortar
Got her yesterday
winged belfry
in such cases, one haing slighly higher roll of the same sub will be more imporrant than main stat
lament shuttle
Congrats
winged belfry
Got her yesterday
grats
lament shuttle
in such cases, one haing slighly higher roll of the same sub will be more imporr...
I mean I don’t think we disagree then it’s just whichever has better subs
Cuz you won’t be farming to make the 1% atk/dmg vs dmg/dmg to matter significantly
lament shuttle
Which signals it’ll be like only a 5-10% over stringmaster or even less
winged belfry
Which signals it’ll be like only a 5-10% over stringmaster or even less
Yeah, highly possible
and less universal
lament shuttle
Yep
winged belfry
But, there are rumors of a new endgame, that won't allow for weapon swapping
lament shuttle
But, there are rumors of a new endgame, that won't allow for weapon swapping
It’s basically genshin abyss
There’s no exhaustion mechanic
winged belfry
yes
lament shuttle
7-12 floors you can just use the same 6 units across all
The main challenge I’ll have there is yinlin and zz share weapons rn
But it might not be an issue if it’s just mob clearing and no bosses cuz then you don’t use Carlotta/Jinhsi so you don’t need to use ZZ either
neat robin
Okay but what were the last two stats? ~~definitely not atk%~~
Flat atk
winged belfry
maygi
lament shuttle
where is this from? <:think:709945601810366515>
Her vid
But it’s the same source in both cases
vapid river
wait does maygi have access to beta?
winged belfry
probably the best, and only serious TC CC for WuWa in EN
vapid river
vapid river
ah
rotund drum
I’ve seen atk/dmg% be above just dmg%
you only go atk/dmg if you have a shitton of the latter which is basically just s1 jinhsi and CLT
and thats still mostly just because its easier to farm atk than dmg
rotund drum
still dubs
lament shuttle
Atk 3costs dont drop any more than the ele% you need
I’m just happy they’re basically interchangeable
lyric fjord
Quick calc on MV distributions in Absolution mode
"- Hold Basic Attack to cast Heavy Attack Absolution Litany"
Its not skill dmg it seems
You didnt count initial tap e btw
knotty fiber
its not always the case
I will suggest against maygi lol
A lot of us had issues with her doing tof calc
spice finch
Whats verina F2P weapon? Still variation?
neat robin
Always
neat robin
Also variation
winged belfry
You didnt count initial tap e btw
Initial cast is under absolution
Heavy attack is called starflash or something
lament shuttle
I will suggest against maygi lol
yeah i mean prydwen has diff values but they refer to her vid so lmao idk
hollow gorge
yeah i mean prydwen has diff values but they refer to her vid so lmao idk
Prydwen uses s0r0 chars, it's kinda important
lyric fjord
Initial cast is under absolution
still, absolution litany is a heavy attack i think? Since it clearly says it's a heavy attack and doesn't indicate anything that says it's considered skill dmg
lament shuttle
Prydwen uses s0r0 chars, it's kinda important
I mean yeah but the conclusions on both still aren’t the same when comparing equal refinement/sequences. tbh it’s within 1-2% so it doesn’t matter that much
hollow gorge
I mean yeah but the conclusions on both still aren’t the same when comparing equ...
Well, yeah. There is no point chasing 1-2% advantage. Hitting one more dodge counter per rotation would be more beneficial
rotund drum
well JS s1 is +80% dmg bonus so it does make a diff
winged belfry
still, absolution litany is a heavy attack i think? Since it clearly says it's a...
No idea. Encore.moe DB has been borked, and we have no way of checking it right now
it says even heavies are considered skill DMG
lyric fjord
i'm only using hakushin. this website never updates past characters (for example spectro rover is not updated with 2.0 adding spectro frazzle) but it gets updated within an hour at every beta update
winged belfry
Which is strange
before 2.0 it was fine
but now tables seem mixed up
at least damage type ones
values are fine
Now that has proper damage types
But I cannot make tails or heads out of damage data tables
It appears that it has enhanced MVs baked in
For example 2 row in damage table appears to be the values player sees, which is 1st collumn, just multiplied by (1+2.55)
What with rows 3 and 4 I don't know
lyric fjord
@winged belfry
i put the arrow on the wrong line, but on 3rd line it shows absolution littany is heavy
knotty fiber
I still think the kit is not very well designed for how spread out the dmg is
There's still a good chunk of dmg from her lib + EBA + outro
It's like half of her dmg there lol
rotund drum
i dont think they ever really explain what makes the knights nocturnal
they show up during the day too
lament shuttle
Guess I’m buying jinhsi cons from shop
vapid river
coward
opaque flume
Guess I’m buying jinhsi cons from shop
Im waiting for sk
I want sk cons
Better investment in my op
lament shuttle
Im waiting for sk
I have her already the only thing I’d want from her banners would be her sig given the new mode coming out
opaque flume
I have her already the only thing I’d want from her banners would be her sig giv...
I mean her cons are better than jinshis I think
If ur buying cons
lament shuttle
spend your currency on pulls and gamble like a real addict
Oh it’s the gambling addict in you speaking
vapid river
sk only needs s1
and even then she doesn't really need it
the curse of having a great kit at s0
vapid river
but getting anything past s3 is wasteful
yeah
20 concerto on liberation
s2 is 40% atk buff
s2 1.5x range of her ult
increase duration by 10s
and her enhanced intro doesn't end stellarealm
lament shuttle
Kinda pointless
vapid river
it just increases the chances of getting enhanced intro
when i played her with camy i'd more often than not miss it
cuz spin
but with jinhsi i think you want at least s4?
stopping at s2 is pointless
actually s3 would be fine
for personal damage
lowkey excited for jiyan rerun
surely it happens before 3.0
lament shuttle
lament shuttle
Hope you don’t lose 50/50 to more lingyang
vapid river
and if he shows up the way he did before i probably won't need to spend for him at all
oh idc if i lose to lingyang anymore
i got jianxin
and lotta is my first s6 so
i avoided the worst possible outcome
rotund drum
im glad they crept danjin so i dont have to worry about getting 5*s instead of her again
vapid river
hopefully this is the last little lion boy my account ever sees
rotund drum
i dont think they fixed the lingyang rate bug so i doubt it
honestly i'd take the 5-roll refund over whatever shitty con i would never use anyway though
lucid pebble
lament shuttle
so whats the last roll
lucid pebble
Basic.
neat robin
Is Yinlin skill or liberation damage?
Skill
lyric fjord
<:HmmTao:816735545077661746>
chixia piece
knotty fiber
I don't know where all these came from but apparently I don't even need to farm for Fibi lol
maybe it was from when I did the x2 farm for Zhezhi but ended up not getting her
lyric fjord
I don't know where all these came from but apparently I don't even need to farm ...
we get so many chests of these materials, i didn't need to farm for my carlotta + her weapon
burnt shoal
what echoes should i strongbox rip
burnt shoal
barely 3 star floor 1 of middle floor and missed 2 star for floor 2 middle rip
vapid river
What level is your jinhsi?
Can you get level 90? I can't remember what ul your account is
I see she's 80
Are her talents max?
burnt shoal
omg I did it
my first time 6 starring the middle floor!!
I don't have another healer though so i can't clear floor 4 on both left and right rip
going to have to think how to deal with left floor some other time
burnt shoal
Are her talents max?
yes
burnt shoal
what you mean
vapid river
Or just not critting
burnt shoal
this sounds so silly but i only learned today
vapid river
But you fixed the skill issue
burnt shoal
despite the game being 2.0
vapid river
Good job
burnt shoal
you have to only switch
vapid river
vapid river
Mephis has no delay, though I'm not sure if this one ever did
Inferno rider still takes time to be hittable
Wish they'd change that
burnt shoal
i realized i was doing any dmg
was not doing any dmg
if i just quick swap all the time
jinhsi zhezhi
i saw i need to do extended rotation
and follow the glowing circle
that is like the intro/outro skill right?
i thought every team can be quick swappy and u have to switch asap when you can
without following the glowing circle char icon
at least
cobalt apex
burnt shoal
sweet coral
What if they do a CMLY rerun instead of SK
warped willow
So is my Changli finished?
wattesigma
robust axle
watteskibidy
haughty holly
Oh I see thats with sk buff
This is the stats, was thinking of decreasing CR for more CDM is that a good move or nah?
cobalt apex
what site is that 
haughty holly
what site is that <:A_ThinkTao:808987776073596929>
That is from official wuwa bot
cobalt apex
knotty fiber
<@320560428046614529> i got an alright 3 cost
Also pog
cobalt apex
my carlo is done ig
cobalt apex
knotty fiber
Ban this mf
cobalt apex
returnee luck fr
cobalt apex
Ban this mf
also does fibi want 2 dmg%?
cobalt apex
having 60 spectro dmg% really is useful huh
lilac hare
This is a good place to stop at right?
lilac hare
Yes most of the pieces do have rolls on the higher end 
Carlotta is very strong ngl
Can spare using anyone with her and keep zz for jinhsi
cobalt apex
i have 4 low rolls and a min roll 😔
warped willow
contemplating jinhsi
lilac hare
I have been spending lots of time just killing echoes, can finally rest
lilac hare
Goodluck
vapid river
This is a good place to stop at right? <:A_GaspTao:1098266330001572041>
kinda low atk, but 313 cdmg surely makes up for it
neat robin
This is the stats, was thinking of decreasing CR for more CDM is that a good mov...
Idk I still cant see base stats
70/270 is good baseline goal when you have crit weapons
lilac hare
kinda low atk, but 313 cdmg surely makes up for it
Surely 
vapid river
unless it's double glacio then that's hella stonks
lyric fjord
Did someone test the new spectro set to see if the crit buff is kept if you swap out and in again?
Because that will decide if i level mortefi or just use changli quickswap
haughty holly
Idk I still cant see base stats
70/270 is good baseline goal when you have crit...
Did you mean stats without buff?
haughty holly
Yeah
winged belfry
This is a good place to stop at right? <:A_GaspTao:1098266330001572041>
Low ER
Like even with Zhezhi you might struggle to get Liberation on cool down
vapid river
the problem with the atk% i've been getting is
er/atk%/res skill/cdmg
and the 5th stat is flat hp
or def%
i've had 3 do that during the event
it's so annoying
so i live with this
lucid pebble
I got like 4 double crit glacio pieces in one day.
3 days after spending 60+ cubes and getting none.
lilac hare
Like even with Zhezhi you might struggle to get Liberation on cool down
I didn’t have this problem tbh, I thought I would but
What is the difference between glacio+glacio and glacio+atk btw?
winged belfry
What is the difference between glacio+glacio and glacio+atk btw?
like 0.5%
lilac hare
So it all depends on the substats
winged belfry
pretty much
no point in picking glacio + glacio over glacio + ATK, if glacio + ATK has better rolls
Anyway
I finally got 2 double crit glacio 3 costs
issues is, they are both of the same echo
neat robin
Rip
edgy cobalt
roccia doomposting right before her release
edgy cobalt
This is a good place to stop at right? <:A_GaspTao:1098266330001572041>
that's pretty good! I run 72:310 and I envy having close to 80% crit rate
lyric fjord
Did someone test the new spectro set to see if the crit buff is kept if you swap...
i just tested, the set buff for crit rate stays :DDDD dual dps it is
if only all sets were like this
also made me realize how hard spectro rover hits, damn
knotty fiber
the first one?
vapid river
yes
knotty fiber
it only has 2 rolls
vapid river
knotty fiber
lol
I wanted to use 
vapid river
knotty fiber
decent I guess
but pretty good for like 500 tuners
only 16.5% heavy dmg
which is really gay
because I have 28% lib dmg on it and I don't need lib lol
vapid river
who is this for?
and are these just echo buffs?
yeah has to be just from echos
for rococo?
knotty fiber
for rococo yes