・wuwa-lounge

[vapid river]

Def/basic atk

[neat robin]

Flat def and lib

[cobalt apex]

def/ hp%

or atk and skill% if a little luckier

[knotty fiber]

LMAOOO who guessed BA

[vapid river]

That's not luckier

Oh

[lament shuttle]

Yuanwu till we get something better imo

[vapid river]

We take those

[knotty fiber]

3 lines

[cobalt apex]

real shit

[knotty fiber]

acceptable

[lament shuttle]

And then run verina on heron set

[cobalt apex]

ur luck finally comes

[vapid river]

3/5 isn't luck 😭

That's bare minimum

[cobalt apex]

not if u never get good rolls

[neat robin]

I’m too broke to try levelling anything for brant

[knotty fiber]

at the beginning of the patch I was flexing my almost 1k gold tubes and almost 2k purp tubes

lmfao

[vapid river]

How the turn tables

[knotty fiber]

now I'm doing echoes like a fucking brokie

help

[cobalt apex]

:Life:

[neat robin]

😔 brant can live in 1-3 floors

[vapid river]

[vapid river]

That calcharo's home though

[lament shuttle]

Awful xd

[vapid river]

[neat robin]

Lumi has calcharos echos

[vapid river]

And now that he's s5

Lumi can join him

[neat robin]

I was trying the airforce lumi

[vapid river]

[neat robin]

Its so stupid I cant believe it works lol

[lament shuttle]

Carlotta lumi sk is only 9% worse than zz sk team

[vapid river]

Lumi feels bad to play though

Which sucks

[knotty fiber]

bitch what

[vapid river]

AYO

[knotty fiber]

unreal lmao

[vapid river]

YOUR LUCK BE TURNING

[lament shuttle]

I’m going back to bed he’s sucking all the luck

[vapid river]

until it hits double def

[knotty fiber]

5 AM gacha belike

[knotty fiber]

it will

[cobalt apex]

truly

[knotty fiber]

ain't no way it won't give me either atk or def

[cobalt apex]

thats how i get my pieces

[knotty fiber]

the game is not that generous for me

[vapid river]

Hey we take high/mid cr/cdmg rolls

[knotty fiber]

okay that's looking on a high note

[vapid river]

Still worth

Sad no atk though

[knotty fiber]

oh okay

the sad HP rolls

but that's fine for now

[neat robin]

..

[knotty fiber]

you're so funny game

[neat robin]

So this is the hour we need to roll echos at

[knotty fiber]

I spent over 400 or 800 tuners a couple days ago and got none

[cobalt apex]

early morning gacha

[knotty fiber]

now I have 4

[cobalt apex]

might aswell skip the sleep schedule for the rolls

[neat robin]

Roll good echos and go back to bed

[knotty fiber]

you see

maybe it's you haunting me

so I got good rolls

[cobalt apex]

[wraith steeple]

gimme this

[knotty fiber]

funny thing is

I never farmed for Fibi

I got all these spectro shit while farming Klt

[neat robin]

I have so many spectro set ^ same reason

I think I have around 40 spectro 3costs locked

I dont even like phoebe

[knotty fiber]

the accidental kills

lol

[neat robin]

Apparently

The phantom diggy will be from a collab

[knotty fiber]

chat where's nightmare aix

I don't know if it submitted its sword

[knotty fiber]

I don't know the location

[neat robin]

Under the bank

[knotty fiber]

apparently I haven't

okay I just realized

I wish the 9.9% crate roll was cdmg instead

cuz Fibi has a lot of crate

I just remembered that

20% from this already

man

[neat robin]

Ngl

Forgot that dot sets have cr

Phoebe has a cr sig too

[knotty fiber]

36%

[neat robin]

36 like yinlins

[knotty fiber]

which means

[neat robin]

Plus base

[knotty fiber]

without any crate sub

[neat robin]

So 61 cr doing nothing

[knotty fiber]

she has 61% crate

[cobalt apex]

peak

[neat robin]

Cdmg atk% heavy is goal for echos ig instead of cr cdmg atk% on everything

[knotty fiber]

that makes the 3rd crate

[neat robin]

Cr helps ofc but wont be as needed

[knotty fiber]

and 0 cdmg

[neat robin]

Wait

[cobalt apex]

if u overcap on cr it double crit trust

[neat robin]

Even on min roll

[cobalt apex]

3.0 mechanic

[neat robin]

If you have cr on all pieces
97 cr

[knotty fiber]

quintuple min roll you still get around 31% crate

so it's 92%

lol

and I have minn't rolls

[neat robin]

Dont need more than 2-3 cr subs honestly

Sk overcaps you

[knotty fiber]

I don't run SK is the thing

can't give her to everyone

[neat robin]

3-4 subs then

[knotty fiber]

at this point

I might have to consider Zhezhi's sig

[neat robin]

Its basic%

Just cdmg stick otherwise
Would rather wait for a different cdmg rectifier

[knotty fiber]

I still wanna pull Fibi's sig

because it's pretty

[cobalt apex]

who do i even want

[neat robin]

Id deadass hide it with the skin

[cobalt apex]

[neat robin]

So phoebe only has a staff

Cane. Whatever it is

[neat robin]

Brant

[quasi sable]

Crit dot 🔥🔥🔥

[neat robin]

Brant zani aero ladies is my goal

[quasi sable]

Wait

[neat robin]

4 chars plus sigs? And sk sig

[quasi sable]

Can dot crit in this game

[neat robin]

I’m gonna be broke

[cobalt apex]

who do i play him with then

[knotty fiber]

I don't know

[neat robin]

No

[knotty fiber]

but that's not for crit dot

you need a dot applier

[neat robin]

For fun 😔

[cobalt apex]

i need a 2nd team before that

[neat robin]

Cantarella phrolova tentative leaks for 2.2
Havoc duo

[knotty fiber]

my guess is I'm running her with Cantarella

[neat robin]

Though I heard canta is more camy healer
Prob wont matter unless she gives IR id keep sk with camy

[knotty fiber]

man

[quasi sable]

Is Phoebe not?

[knotty fiber]

guess I can't luck my way out of cost 4

not her dpsform

[cobalt apex]

u will get it soon trust

[knotty fiber]

dps form doesn't have any dot application

outside of intro

[neat robin]

She applies dot for the set buff but you put her in the hold-basic form yeah

[knotty fiber]

you need an applicator

[neat robin]

She applies only enough for the set and her sig

[knotty fiber]

thing is she doesn't

she can't apply any dot in absolution

which is dps form

[neat robin]

15s of buff?

[knotty fiber]

only confession form lets her

confession is pure DoT

[neat robin]

?

[knotty fiber]

intro is like 7s

dot lasts for 7s

[neat robin]

She just needs to apply it once to get the buff for 15s

[knotty fiber]

needs an applicator or shimmer

which means

[neat robin]

Set buff isnt gonna end the moment dot ends you get cr for 15s

[knotty fiber]

this is when SRover comes in

I don't know if it lasts out of field

FUCK ANOTHER CRIT RATE

[knotty fiber]

she still needs an applicator for the 15% dmg bonus

[neat robin]

This is why I’m skipping

Zani first

[cobalt apex]

[neat robin]

If phoebe is her best duo, phoebe on rerun

[cobalt apex]

ill have enough for skeeper and another char

need to decide eventually

(istg if i lose my 4th 50/50 in a row)

[neat robin]

You’ll be like me

[knotty fiber]

I'm not pulling for meta anymore

[neat robin]

Jinhsi is next half

[knotty fiber]

I'm pulling for funsies

if I like the character enough, I pull

[neat robin]

A kit that has no team doesnt seem fun for me

[knotty fiber]

huh

[neat robin]

I say this but I have nowhere for brant except as a 3rd healer

[knotty fiber]

Changli in a fucking nutshell

[cobalt apex]

no far i dont have special interest with any of the upcoming char so theres that

[cobalt apex]

lmfao

[neat robin]

I dony like changli either

Shes the only one I dont have

[knotty fiber]

if I can make ampless Klt work

then I can make Fibi work

and that's fun for me

lmfao

[cobalt apex]

its funny how i skipped half a year of content and changli is still changli

[knotty fiber]

you know what's not fun for me?

Yinyao

boring ass comp

[cobalt apex]

cal yin

[neat robin]

You say that but it plays the same as any other hypercarry comp

The only different is mdps combo

[knotty fiber]

that's the thing

and I don't like playing Yinlin

[neat robin]

So its not yinyao you just dont like xy’s combo

[knotty fiber]

you are a couple seconds late

[neat robin]

Its funny cuz yinlin actually has a combo
Unlike other sdps

I cant judge

I love xy

[knotty fiber]

whatever you say

I dislike the comp

and you don't like Changli

and whatever Fibi is gonna turn out

I'm making her work

[neat robin]

Xy plays the same as cyno I have a type
Ult then basic/skill weave for whateve long fieldtime

[neat robin]

No I just dont like phoebe herself
Attacks look cool
Not cool enough for me to want

[knotty fiber]

I'm talking about this

[neat robin]

Changli also has great looking attacks
Shit to play (also mobile player def influences yhat)

[knotty fiber]

cuz who cares if you like her or not

[neat robin]

Nah I’m a firm believer in pulling who you enjoy using

Ive benched chars cuz I just hate them and was wasted pulls

Phoebe onfield doesnt look fun at all
And no way to use her off field yet

But thats all personal opinions

[knotty fiber]

holy fuck I'm already 33.6% crate without cost 4

[neat robin]

Specifcally this statement is cuz if theres no team how can you use the char’s full kit

[knotty fiber]

[knotty fiber]

how tf do you even use her full kit in the first place when she has 2 fucking kits

[neat robin]

She doesnt have a team for either half

[knotty fiber]

and DoT hasn't even started

[neat robin]

Exactly

[cobalt apex]

i might get fibi

[knotty fiber]

see, you get the point

[neat robin]

I’m waiting for zani

[knotty fiber]

I don't care if you want perfect synergy team or not

I care about I find it out myself

the balance team in ww always delivers

[neat robin]

Jiyan and jinhsi still waiting for their 5* duo

[cobalt apex]

im super free in teambuilding rn

[knotty fiber]

see, you just mentioned a bitch that never got her perfect synergy unit

she didn't even get Zhezhi on 1.1

[cobalt apex]

like all i have is a carlo changli team

and a cal yin team from 1.0 lmfao

[neat robin]

We had like 3 chars in 1.1

[knotty fiber]

and Yinlin was also kind of teamless

because goku sucked

[cobalt apex]

cal got butchered from beta to live was funny

[neat robin]

Calcharo.. they shouldnt have nerfed him

[cobalt apex]

and then twice from 1.0 to 1.1

[neat robin]

Tf did I use

Was changli also 1.1

[cobalt apex]

2nd half

[neat robin]

I must have done jinhsi yinlin at the start

Cuz jiyan at least had mort

[wraith steeple]

sad i ran out of mats to upgrade my echoes I woulda kept farming

oh well

[neat robin]

I’m just waiting to see if zani lets off field phoebe work

[cobalt apex]

i like chars with 2 parts kit

[neat robin]

Dont like her onfield stuff

[knotty fiber]

I'm probably gonna run moonlit SRover

[cobalt apex]

and having the chance to use my srover is very nice

[knotty fiber]

this thing is not bad

[cobalt apex]

dont have to pull another char

[knotty fiber]

and what's better

I can use Changli sig on SRover

[cobalt apex]

[wraith steeple]

brant being almost done a month and a half before release is nice

just cr cdmg basic dmg bonus and er

[cobalt apex]

and if i lose the 50/50 on fibi again idk

fate will decide

[neat robin]

My biggest avoidance of levelling anything for brant
Is if cantarella gameplay looks better

[knotty fiber]

cas

you have

Shorekeeper

[cobalt apex]

shes in 2.2 supposedly right?

[knotty fiber]

if you skip her again this next time idk what to say

she might be 2.1

very possibly

[neat robin]

I will only have enough to pick one from 2.1/2.2
For char + sig

[wraith steeple]

dammit I hope not

[cobalt apex]

well shit

now thats a problem

[vapid river]

maybe they'll buff in 3.0 when he appears with geshu lin

[wraith steeple]

2.2+plz

[vapid river]

i would love to see a cal x geshu lin story in the future

[wraith steeple]

i want to just unleash my ---- on brant

[neat robin]

Need sk sig

[vapid river]

i'm not writing fan fiction you are

[neat robin]

And either brant/cantarella + sig

Calcharo is from new fed

I doubt they had much of any interaction

[wraith steeple]

brant is cute so I pull

simple

[vapid river]

yes, but he's also the leader of a mercenary group that travels a lot

if he met verina and encore

[neat robin]

So is cantar

[vapid river]

in huanglong

[cobalt apex]

fibi is smol so i pull

[vapid river]

surely he could have met geshu lin

[knotty fiber]

also

[wraith steeple]

but he have fun combat so I pull

[knotty fiber]

regardless of how long the echo set lasts

Fibi still needs an applicator

[wraith steeple]

eh?

[knotty fiber]

cuz her kit is all about increasing dmg by attacking enemies with frazzle

SRover is pretty much the only choice now

[wraith steeple]

srover: sits on you

[knotty fiber]

what

[wraith steeple]

we just said the same thing

lmao

[knotty fiber]

[wraith steeple]

srover or it ain't happening

[knotty fiber]

😭 I'm using wing trick in Huanglong

Rinascita turned me into a spoiled bitch

[wraith steeple]

i-

no dead ass 😭😭

[cobalt apex]

cooked

i was also doing that

[knotty fiber]

My little hope now would be they change her sig to cdmg

This is too much crate

[cobalt apex]

surely...

[neat robin]

Now

I could be wrong

But normal spectro set for onfield phoeb?

Is 5pc spectro or skill buff

[knotty fiber]

All of the old sets are elemental

Jue is unfortunately skill

[rotund drum]

this event doesnt even give primogems

literally scammed

[lyric fjord]

We got more details on phoebe's kit, she can use 4 enhanced heavies in absolution forte mode

[rotund drum]

is spectro saved

[lyric fjord]

We also know how hard her outro hits. Its basically chixia but i doubt it can miss, from what we could see in the brant showcase video

Her outro hits as hard as her lib lol

[rotund drum]

thats just cause her lib sucks but yeah

she gets the multiplier on it from stand mode i guess

which justifies the low mults

[lyric fjord]

I mean, imo it doesnt suck, just that her outro has the same multiplier AND buff in absolution mode.

[rotund drum]

it sucks at base because you're supposed to amp it

500% lmao

by comparison CLT's skill does like 800%

her outro does too iirc

unfortunately she cant amp and frazzle at the same time so it really depends on whether frazzle is even worth as a dot

and how long it lasts

they probably expect you to frazzle on the first rot then spam amped nukes for the rest

from what i can tell she doesnt actually frazzle except in stand mode though so you probably need spectro mc if you want to skip having to frazzle every time

[neat robin]

Theres a reason they say she doesnt have proper teammates yet

You wont get any proper phoebe dmg in either mode unless youre using spectro rover or you wait for her 5* partner

Since they also dont seem to want to drop any 4* spectros

[rotund drum]

hopefully they buff her like they buffed brant

they probably dont care though since people will pull her anyway because waifu

[lament shuttle]

Spectro rover is fine tho with s6 to be a good team mate

10% res down is really good

[lyric fjord]

Klt's outro is single target and she doesnt have fast concerto regen.
Phoebe's is in a large aoe and can be amped to 1300% in absolution mode and can regen concerto fast

I heard shimmer disappears if spectro rover leaves the field, is that true?

[rotund drum]

how fast does frazzle degrade if you dont shimmer

[vapid river]

only issue with that is

who wants to level talents up for spectro rover after doing it for havoc

just for smc to get replaced by a different 5* down the road

though i wonder if they'll do what they did with middle tower for the others

give us 2 options

and if they'll stick with the same ones or if they'll switch it up

[lament shuttle]

Way cheaper than building a new unit from scratch tho

Same weapon

[lyric fjord]

I feel like talents are cheap to upgrade in this game

[lament shuttle]

Idt cost related to mc is like a downside if anything it’s an upside

[vapid river]

if you're going from 0 talents on smc and 0 talents on a new 5* and 0 echoes farmed/leveled it's the same

who tf leveled up smc?

other than ig f2p

but i didn't use smc at all

[vapid river]

my original statement comes from a mindset that smc is also at 0 investment

why else would i even mention leveling talents?

this is what my smc looks like

the only difference would be leveling

and that doesn't cost much, especially if i don't have to use smc

[lament shuttle]

Idk I don’t think it’s that expensive

You can reuse 5* sword

[vapid river]

it's not about expense tbh

it's more about getting replaced by a better 5*

[lament shuttle]

If you were farming for carlotta and are getting febe

[vapid river]

it's the whole hmc level up then camy comes out

and just replaces him instantly

[lament shuttle]

But there was like 5 months + between those two …

[vapid river]

and?

what's your point?

he was still replaced the instant she came out

[lament shuttle]

By your logic we shouldn’t build any unit because in 6 months they could be replaced lol

[vapid river]

was it worth the investment at the time? sure b/c there was no other alternative

[lament shuttle]

Why build Carlotta if in 5 months we’ll get a better glacio dps

[vapid river]

do you just want to argue?

i gave my personal thoughts on it

if you disagree that's fine

[lament shuttle]

No your logic doesn’t make sense

You’re falling for sunk cost fallacy

[vapid river]

it's how i feel about the units in general

tf you mean logic?

gtfo

it doesn't have to make sense

[lament shuttle]

[vapid river]

feelings don't make sense

i felt like the investment for hmc wasn't worth in comparison to how much better camy was so i dont' want to do the same for smc

that's literally it

you don't have to agree with it

though if you are getting phoebe you should probably invest in smc

i can agree to that

that or wait till she gets a decent teammate

[lament shuttle]

So basically, you back track to agree with what we said prior

[vapid river]

bro do you just want to fight?

when did i ever say not to invest in smc if you're pulling for phoebe?

[lament shuttle]

I’m not the one getting super emotional about this lol

[vapid river]

when did i ever disagree with that?

no you're just making shit up instead?

[lament shuttle]

#・wuwa-lounge message

You said “who wants to level smc”

[vapid river]

oh i didn't back read enough

[lament shuttle]

In the context of getting phoebe

[vapid river]

.> that's my bad

[vapid river]

this is where i started

i didn't read what you were replying to

that's on me

[lament shuttle]

All good

[vapid river]

i just wonder what kuro is trying to cook with these weird hybrid kits

[lament shuttle]

I think phoebe is pretty clear

It’ll be super consistent since you will do DoT and it’ll be hard to not reach damage potential

[vapid river]

can phoebe even exist without someone driving dots though? effectively that is

w/o constantly switching "stances"?

[lament shuttle]

Surely it will be possible. I’ll be honest I haven’t tried it out with smc yet to get a good feel/understanding of how it’ll play out in practice.

[vapid river]

her intro sets her up, but is 1 stack going to be enough?

[lament shuttle]

Also I’m not sure roccia will be that much of an upgrade compared to sanhua for Cam teams

Esp if sanhua is s6

[vapid river]

it doesn't even mention how long it lasts?

[lament shuttle]

For phoebe in particular we’ll have to rely on leakers to give up an idea

Since its net new mechanics right

[lament shuttle]

For this it’s like 38% normal atk dmg + 20% atk vs 20% havoc + 25% basic dmg

[vapid river]

i thought there were already sheets/graphs of rococo vs sanhua?

and it's marginal

still an increase, but nothing crazy

[lament shuttle]

Oh are there ? I haven’t seen them

Im gonna save up to get camellya on rerun

[vapid river]

i can't find it

possible i was confusing it for something else

[vapid river]

surprised you don't have camy

what made you skip?

[lament shuttle]

I just didn’t play for 2.5 months cuz got bored/work got busy

[vapid river]

that'll happen

i kinda quit during changli banner

[lament shuttle]

I’m not a fan of having to do daily logins on games so the waveplates being stackable to like. 3 days is nice

[vapid river]

brother that's every gacha

[lament shuttle]

Why do you think I don’t play any lol

[vapid river]

you don't play any hoyo gacha?

why are you a cfa to a genshin sweat server then

[lament shuttle]

I played genshin for the first time(in 2 years) last year for a week

[vapid river]

smh

[lament shuttle]

I have friends I met here

[vapid river]

is wuwa the only game you're playing then?

[lament shuttle]

Gâcha game yeah. I also am playing bg3 with friends and TFT otherwise

[vapid river]

bg3 is fun

[lament shuttle]

It is yep

[vapid river]

tft is well... it's made by riot

[lament shuttle]

League was my main game for 12 years

[vapid river]

can't wait for us gov't to ban riot games

[lament shuttle]

lol

TikTok ban this weekend right

[vapid river]

supposed to happen on the 19th?

sunday or something?

idk

[lament shuttle]

imagine if we get the wrong lessons from that

[vapid river]

they didn't want to sell so they want to ban

now tiktok users are flocking to red note

[lament shuttle]

where kids grades go up and depression goes down cuz of it

[vapid river]

which is literally backed by the ccp

ngl i think the average age of a tiktok user has gone up since it came out

i only say that b/c i think you have to be 18+ to sell shit

and i'm constantly hit with "ayo, you hate it when this thing happens? me too. buy this shit, it stops that thing from happening!"

[lament shuttle]

Wasnt there a state that banned social media under 14 or something

[vapid river]

that would be crazy

[lament shuttle]

didnt florida do it ?

[vapid river]

and ineffective

just lie about your age

easy

or vpn

but idr hearing about that

i know you can't go to ph in utah

or you can but you need to use a legal id

or some crazy shit

mormons are wild

[lament shuttle]

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/2024/12/04/florida-law-social-media-children-facebook-tiktok-instagram-bluesky/76759431007/ here

[vapid river]

yeah good luck on that

[lament shuttle]

they're not alone tho https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/16/learning/what-teens-are-saying-about-barring-children-under-16-from-social-media.html Australia is doing 16 and under

[lament shuttle]

Idk if it’ll be effective or not but I do think it’s negatively impacting how kids learn in school

Like really badly

Iirc the average 15 year old is 1.5 yrs behind education wise compared to the avg 15 year old a decade ago which is pretty concerning

[vapid river]

Didn't covid and the lock down fuck things up too? And the switch to common core math just before that

Not that I have anything against common core math, idek much about it since I didn't have to learn it

[lament shuttle]

Covid did have an impact but there was already a downwards trend I think I have the graph somewhere

[vapid river]

Idk ig blame my generation for having kids and not wanting to raise them at all. Easier to throw an iPad in their hands than teach them how to read and do math

[lament shuttle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/870914903731470366/1181678070755762218/7528ff07631eac058a9927cbcff1f550.png?ex=678b57b6&is=678a0636&hm=d1278b3c361ab9ea74e98caf14fa4b1adf795c6677170903dcd4dc37387cf348&

It’s downward in general

Even without Covid

[vapid river]

oof

[lament shuttle]

I don’t think the prior generations were any better. I remember of ton of kids who had helicopter parents in my year too

I’m not surprised by the top performers tbh

Except for Estonia

[rotund drum]

china probably rigs their scores

[lament shuttle]

we know they do since its only beijing shanghai and a couple other cities that report on that score...

[rotund drum]

tbf its not like america is using NYC or LA lol

[lament shuttle]

Every other country has to provide a representative sample size

Singapore I’m not surprised ppl are really studious there. At least when I attended university there

surely the ychange phoebe's weapon to cdmg right

[lyric fjord]

I hope not lol, its easier to skip if they leave it as is

[rotund drum]

the joke is that NYC is a shithole

https://nbcmontana.com/news/crisis-in-the-classroom/citc-40-of-high-schools-in-baltimore-had-zero-students-test-proficient-in-math-schools-public-education-system-maryland-exams-reading-writing pretty much every large city in the US

the other 60% probably had 1

[lament shuttle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1235026456501948456/1329904264688177184/k9qr7scmtlde1.png?ex=678c095d&is=678ab7dd&hm=5ecc1d5f3f26a77dbd59ff11643aa4fda67187127485a94d15cb2af4504a5a55&

[vapid river]

strongly related to phoebe

surely that's not true

[shut isle]

yeah i aint pulling pheobe so uh

worse case scenario, spectro rover it is

[vapid river]

well i was gonna spend like 250 on pokemon cards but they never restocked

so ig i can save for that

[lament shuttle]

I don’t mind skipping zani

Cantarella is gonna be a pick up and so is phrolova

[hollow gorge]

Tbh, these metrics are somewhat questionable. E.g. half a century ago a person could memorize and recite 1000 words as a single excersize as part of their curriculum. Nowadays that's like 200-300 words at best, if there is any recitation at all at school. A couple centuries ago students memorized whole book chapters. While memorization is useful, obviously the decline is caused by practical needs. So, here is an analogy: are we much worse than students a century ago because our memorization skills declined?

Or did we replace those skills with a different, more suitable set?

[lament shuttle]

I have a call in a few mins. I don’t think these subjects are out of date at all. But to your point, what the conclusions the teaching bodies come to is they need to adapt more modern teaching practices in particular for math in that case.

But despite teaching strategies needing to adapt, the drop out rates have risen a ton in particular amongst men (from the data I’ve seen) and in the article, they refer to the fact that if there’s significant delays in learning, it can have very real repercussions (the example they gave was being unable to understand exponentials leads to people not being able to understand the science behind climate change)

[lyric fjord]

I like his name so i trust the guy that relayed this info

[hollow gorge]

I agree there is real decline in overall educational levels. But because educational institutions are slow to adapt modern tools like smartphones(or other handhelds), internet, social networks and soon AI (soon because it's not quite ready tech), I think education is falling behind. A basic thing like duplicating your library in digital format is something not many schools do for example.

This is the sort of thing that requires legislation

So that you don't need to spend ages on resolving licensing issues, if you want to digitalize your library

[edgy cobalt]

o canada mentioned

[neat robin]

Coord healer??? WITH skill outro

Wait shit is that canta and zani both in 2.2

[hollow gorge]

Could be good, could be bad. We kinda need healers, it's yet to be seen if it's a role consolidation or not

Also Zani tied to Phoebe is

I really hoped she would be a universal Spectro shielder/buffer

[rotund drum]

is havoc saved

[hollow gorge]

Havoc never needed saving. It has Cameltoa, Sideboob MC and Milfless echo

[lucid pebble]

Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of 1.0 flower girl’s power.

[neat robin]

Meant for hsi team but

Idk who youd want for 3rd at that point

Though

[neat robin]

Leaks have been out for a while that phoebe + zani is a duo

[lucid pebble]

It’s canon, tho.

They were having sot hesbian lex while we were rowboating with Carlotta.

[hollow gorge]

Phoebe was like: is this what Pilgrims Sail is like?

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/phoebe-wuthering-waves-phoebe-wuwa-wuwa-wuthering-gif-17427240854026907269

[vapid river]

even at the end of the story

with their power combined

sot hesbian lex

[vapid river]

@lament shuttle did you share something that showed the damage difference between zz on empryean vs moonlit with lotta?

[edgy cobalt]

tldr emp teeny tiny bit better cuz more zz dmg but not worth farming if u have good moonlit set alr

[vapid river]

but i want to see the charts

wait

was you who shared them boolit?

[edgy cobalt]

nah was TK

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1208158914223542292/1322333179461505064/8giiz5aqi28e1.png?ex=678c2dbd&is=678adc3d&hm=fb52971a7a2944d426035a946f50d27454ba12f30e1cb6ee05dbf87750262912&

now its me

[vapid river]

aren't those exactly the same?

😭

[vapid river]

@lament shuttle you literally shared the thing i was talking about with rococo doing more dmg than sanhua

smh

[lament shuttle]

I’m old ig

[vapid river]

although i have no idea

wait

was that in tcl?

i just searched images from you in wuwa

and ninjy

and one oh seven

and vinsmoke

but couldn't find it

where did you get it though? was it from a maygi video?

[lament shuttle]

No she doesn’t do pre tc

[edgy cobalt]

wait that’s literally the same I just realized lol

[vapid river]

then where did it come from

someone was saying the empryean is much better

twitch chatters be like

[edgy cobalt]

no waying

literally not worth to switch

[vapid river]

but i remembered seeing it and thinking "it's the exact same"

yeah

it's not

[edgy cobalt]

kurobots moment

emp better wuwa story better type shit

[vapid river]

wuwa story do be getting better

1.0 was so bad

is it better than the best story hoyo has put out? probably not

but i enjoyed 2.0

[edgy cobalt]

as a professional skipper

2.0 story was whatever

[vapid river]

tk

wtf

is maygi cooking

i love the graphic

[neat robin]

Empyrean yinlin is better for yinyao

[vapid river]

and how she takes her time going through it

but holy shit

[vapid river]

i won't deny that

her damage is already good on void

emp just makes her off field damage that much better

[neat robin]

Ive only ever seen just keeping moonlit zz

[vapid river]

but i can imagine compared to moonlit it's not even close

[neat robin]

Her own dmg ist worth the loss of your hypercarry

[neat robin]

Hecate empyrean > moonlit > void (old mephis)

This was team dpr

I’m not sure if I can find the image I’ll try

[neat robin]

TK sent this from maygi calcs

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

currently

the only ones that can actually use empyrean optimally are Zhezhi and probably Mortefi

I kinda doubt for Mortefi though

[vapid river]

oh i got lotta s6

her full ult does over 2m dmg now

[knotty fiber]

I know that some people would cave in for it

[neat robin]

Wtf

Did you actually have savings or you spent?

[vapid river]

oh i spent

i was gonna drop some money for pokemon cards

but they never restocked

but uhh

one sec

super early double

20th and 21st

[winged belfry]

Nope, WuWa 2.0 is not better than Genshin's Fontaine

It's probably not better than Sumeru either

[vapid river]

is fontaine their best story?

what about peakony?

i've played through sumeru

i hated it

well, i hated nahida's bullshit

[winged belfry]

HSR had 2 good story moment

Belobog and Hoolay Arc

[vapid river]

i enjoyed the exploration(we don't count the desert)

[winged belfry]

Penacony was shit

it was so disjointed

[neat robin]

Agreed

[winged belfry]

there was no flow between chapters

2.0 murder mystery
2.1 Aventurine be trippin
2.2 Sunday tried to be Kevin or something,
2.3 Ship cruise

Like man

Out of all that, 2.0 was still the best

but all of that makes a disjointed mess, like it was written by team of people that don't talk to each other

[neat robin]

Id love s6 but
Brain says s3 a 2nd char

Its 6 extra copies of a 5* either way and this way it doesnt make the whole game toooo easy

[vapid river]

yeah

any floor i do with her is like 30-35 seconds

if i'm sweating

i'm sure if i could qs it'd be faster

[neat robin]

I bet half that time is just zz sk setup

[vapid river]

it is

once she runs through her ult the boss is dead

aix literally doesn't see the final hit

[neat robin]

I can already almost one rot middle bosses just at s3

[vapid river]

the 4 normal attacks in her ult combo go from like 80-90k dmg to 260k+

[neat robin]

S6 is like.. double the dmg?

[vapid river]

it's fucking insane

double feels about right?

b/c the final hit doesn't feel that much stronger

but the initial went up a bit too

[winged belfry]

Now I kinda regert getting S1 and S2 from the shop

Because big spike is S3

And I'm not getting that

[vapid river]

you know what's crazy

this is with static mist

it's not even with her sig

[knotty fiber]

I don't know

I know for sure

it's much less yapping

lmfao

no one can best hoyo in yapping

[vapid river]

it felt like a good amount of yap to action

lotta's sq though

felt like more yap compared to action

which was fine

that's generally how resonator/companion sq have gone

save for maybe encores?

i think they tied in action/yap well in encore's sq

[neat robin]

I’m kinda interested in cantarella now

Also isnt she from the enemy family
I cant spell it

[vapid river]

fascilla?

fascila?

fascillia?

idk

fascists

[warped willow]

we finally have emotion in our voices ong,,,

[warped willow]

fisalia

[hollow gorge]

Personally, I think Dragonspine is Genshins best story. It was all cohesive, all neatly tucked in, and laid foundations for the story 3 patches ahead (yeah, Fontaine basically tells us what Dragonspine set up).

[warped willow]

how play carlotta

like what she do

my addiction got to me

[neat robin]

Gun

Someone else needs to help I only know s1+ rot not the base one

[warped willow]

honestly probably not going to play her LMAO

same case with zhezhi

i have a severe addiction .

im going to need to grind a lot

maybe gonna spend aswell,,,,

when’s Zani

[neat robin]

You need to use gacha simulator and not an actual game then

Dont spend when you wont build the chars tf

[warped willow]

im going to build Phoebe and Zani

it’s just carlotta i caved

[hollow gorge]

You don't need to spend to roll in these games In Genshin before I left I had 500 rolls banked. I think I got Birb, Mualani and Xilonen and never leveled either of them Because lvling them was too much effort

[warped willow]

not being able to prefarm Phoebe echoes pains me

[knotty fiber]

what's stopping you

[warped willow]

it’s the wrong set

[hollow gorge]

Wdym, both these sets are currently ingame

[warped willow]

new one apparently

[hollow gorge]

The new one is in-game

Introducing a whole new set in 2.1 would be Weirdge, considering only 1 of the new sets is in use

[knotty fiber]

what

are you smokin

[warped willow]

i might be

give me one sec

[knotty fiber]

first

you have that

second

the mobs are all over there in overworld

💀

you still need to farm cost 1 nonetheless

because ain't no way you're counting on tacet field for cost 1

[warped willow]

im smoking

sorr y

[cobalt apex]

both of my carlo cost 1 are from tacet field

[knotty fiber]

people are going crazy over Brant and Geshu Lin

meanwhile, I want this guy in WW

best male from Kusogames

[hollow gorge]

Is this PGR? Dude is sick ngl

Wth PGR has all the best characters

[knotty fiber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwUnycAritc

Vonnegut is sadly a boss

not playable

oh man

[warped willow]

yo how do i get sanhua skin again

[knotty fiber]

2nd half iirc

[warped willow]

oh okay

[knotty fiber]

need to wait for this event

[warped willow]

already itching to do exploration

[knotty fiber]

go farm for fibi

a lot to farm for everyday

[cobalt apex]

[warped willow]

yea

so many thing .

[rotund drum]

HA, skill, super HA (if charged), echo, ult, HA, skil, quickswaps

[knotty fiber]

holy fuck

what is this funky music shit

PEAK

[neat robin]

The trippy mini puzzles?

[hollow gorge]

I thought it was this guy at first, that became reintroduced recently https://punishing-gray-raven.fandom.com/wiki/Aston

[quasi sable]

He looks too cool to be npc

[knotty fiber]

wtf

[rotund drum]

meanwhile xiangling yaoyao

[knotty fiber]

okay this server has a fucking issue

this word is censored

[quasi sable]

I actually forgot abt him but
Does he even have a role in the quest?

[knotty fiber]

[hollow gorge]

Kuro's best men are all NPCs: Geshu Lin, that Instructor, the Red Hat guy

[quasi sable]

Geshu lin is the white haired dude right?

[rotund drum]

you have to listen to his daddy issues idk

i skipped it but it kept making me do shit

[neat robin]

Idk why they’re allergic to making these guys playable

[rotund drum]

from what i could gather he was a nerd so his daddy didnt love him

so he wanted to prove to his dad that science could be cool too

[quasi sable]

Who's his dad?

[rotund drum]

but he failed

[neat robin]

You gather wrong wtf

Dad was a researcher too

[rotund drum]

i guess he was a failure then

probably lost his arm in an experiment cause he mixed the wrong beakers

[hollow gorge]

Eternally retired general

[neat robin]

You could literally watch xy demo and see more info that the bullshit you’re saying rn

[rotund drum]

that was my inference from the first line of every dialogue segment that you had to mash skip for

he wanted to tell you about his dad then there were a bunch of flashbacks then you had to fight his repressed childhood trauma in his mental space manifested as a monster

CMLY's story was probably the hardest one to figure out

[hollow gorge]

Ngl, I read all of his story and only remember his interaction with his childhood friend. The story was really mediocre

[neat robin]

I want more info on the court of savante ngl
Obv its mech boss home now though so prob not happening

[rotund drum]

all i could figure out of CMLY's story is that she was some kind of reincarnation or clone or something

CLT's story is pretty generic mafia takeover stuff from what i can tell

rival gang boss killed her dad and is trying to become the new capo

[hollow gorge]

That's not Court of Savantae HQ though. Those were only their most weird guys who researched retroactive rain and Aix

[rotund drum]

idk if RCA has any story either apart from being the obligatory female member of brant's crew since no one cares about some dude's backstory

it'll probably be some dumb sidestory about saving teddy bear town from the evil property developer

[neat robin]

No I want the ruins place that xy dad then him went
I think the only thing we get is his story exploration stuff

Not really a thing brought up for anyone else

But its where the tech for xy arm came from

[hollow gorge]

Ngl, out of all Kuro's and Hoyo stories the only least cliched story was the one involving Apep-Deshret-Goddess of Flowers-Liloupar

[neat robin]

Ew not the shitty genie

I liked apep

[hollow gorge]

She was shitty, but she was pretty original

[neat robin]

Best wuwa companion story is encores say what you want about cliches or anything

[hollow gorge]

Tbh, Nahida's story would have been magnitudes better if we got OG Rukkhadevatta, and not Kusanali

But since we got Kusanali with zero memory of her interactions with Deshret and GoF the whole strata of Sumeru story slid into obscurity

The whole Sumeru story feels like a follow-up to Inazuma narrative disaster. Because Inazuma failed so spectacularly, they had to dedicate half Sumeru story to sorting out Inazuma's shit, so Sumeru story also got hit

You can hardly feel bad for Nahida if you feel the same as other Sumerians: "give us back our Rukkha"

[placid holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXMlpxpIYjc
ALLEYESONUS (80 asterite + stuff like above, expires <t:1738339140:F>)

[knotty fiber]

they really

officialized the meme

https://youtu.be/kwUnycAritc?si=4FFvocjNQkl2Q7OP&t=632 I love this song here

IOSYS moment

2 rolls zzz

low rolls even

@cobalt apex high crate rolls moment

avg to 8.1%

[cobalt apex]

lmao

[knotty fiber]

if they don't convert her crate to something I'm doomed

oh god this is miserable

only 7.9% heavy attack dmg wtf

[lament shuttle]

She’s really good

New Code - STARRYSTAGE
New Code - ALLEYESONUS

Both gives x80 Astrites + extra materials

[lucid pebble]

[cobalt apex]

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/jinshi-jinxi-wuwa-wuwa-jinxi-jinxi-wuwa-gif-6888474920101217135

[warped willow]

? durandal?

[lucid pebble]

DEF vs HP.

[lucid pebble]

It's an auto parry button.

[knotty fiber]

duran what

don't compare Cartethyia to that ugly betch

[warped willow]

don’t call her ugly :C

[knotty fiber]

https://youtu.be/UaS3Qvjf4uc?si=dHH7BxvQ8g94lEAu

[burnt shoal]

how do you open that map view in wuwa

where it shows a picture of all the different areas

in rinascita

[wheat moon]

there's an icon on the top left where you can see your progress for the area

and then look for another icon in that area

[uneven flame]

Does Heron buff appear in the stat details or is it an invisible buff? I can't remember

[knotty fiber]

General dmg dealt buffs should be invisible

As there's no proper category to display it

[uneven flame]

Genshin logic I see

[cobalt apex]

[vapid river]

this is what i'm working with

finally got a 3cost atk% that wasn't terrible

still missing 1 cr sub though

and it's on this

[uneven flame]

I've yet to find a single double crit echo for Carlotta. Absolutely bricked

[vapid river]

i used all the tuners and tubes i saved up

plus all the whatchamacallits

[uneven flame]

Tacet fields aren't enough I have to go manually farm echoes if I ever find time

[vapid river]

solvents

yeah, i don't farm the bears

but the others one i do

too many bears

[lilac hare]

What mainstats does Brant want?

[lament shuttle]

250 ER > crit > ele dmg ?

[lilac hare]

Should the 4 cost be crate?

[lament shuttle]

I think it largely depends on weapon

Standard sword prob wants cdmg 4 cost but his sig wants crit rate

[lilac hare]

Alright thank you, I’ll lock everything

[neat robin]

I dont think you can go without a er weapon ngl

Unless you have like r5 eog for 24% er
might be able to hit 250 er with double 3cost and 5 er subs

[lament shuttle]

Sig is 86 right ?

[neat robin]

77 er

You can go with just 1 er 3cost using sig

[lament shuttle]

So you neeed 73 hmm

1 er and ER subs on all

[lament shuttle]

Basically without sig you kinda have to play rejuv cuz his dmg will be so shit

[neat robin]

You lose a lot of his passive if you dont build er

Giving up on 1.5/2.5k atk just to use a non-er weapon is crazy

[lament shuttle]

Yeah it’s like a majority of his kit

[limber imp]

Is there no tacet field for Brant’s set?

[lyric fjord]

Not currently

[lucid pebble]

What are you guys farming for 1-cost Empyrean echos?

[tawny junco]

Sick, 2 out of 2 50/50's lost so far. Genshit all over again gr8 time

[neat robin]

Ah yeah genshin and wuwa the only 2 games with 5050s

[tawny junco]

The only 2 I play(ed)

[knotty fiber]

At this point he pretty much wants to go with shoeskeeper

Fallacy will also help with its 10%

Oh wait

lmao I'm smoking

The 10% ER is for wearer only

[limber imp]

So how should I build Brant?

[neat robin]

Tidebreak, sig, cr 4cost
1 fusion 1 er, er cr cdmg on 4-5 pieces depending on sub rolls

Probably shitty version will be no sig, tidebreak only if you can hit 250 er
Otherwise er weapon and rejuv maybe
double er 3costs

[rotund drum]

when is wuwa getting actual content

2.0 took maybe a couple of hours then a few dozen more running around killing trash mobs

[blissful tulip]

In about 4 days

[rotund drum]

hopefully roccia saves it

it'll just be more echo grinding if you havent done it already though

[blissful tulip]

She's prepared for me

[neat robin]

Bro just quit if you cant find anything to enjoy

[vapid river]

nah, can't complain about things if you don't participate in things

[neat robin]

I just need the game to give me a nm mephis

Well ig I need an atk 3cost too

Gonna be dumb if I drop xy under 2k atk too

[vapid river]

xy would be displeased

[neat robin]

Roccia showcase is out

Trailer should be soon then ig

[burnt shoal]

https://youtu.be/D7QxsAjX4zE

[warped willow]

taking a break from fibi farming

exploration or data bank first

actually data bank’ll be a breeze nvm

[neat robin]

Data bank yeah

[winged belfry]

https://x.com/wuwaguy/status/1880932391449149815?s=46

RinasCita (@wuwaguy) on X

Update 2.1 beta: Phoebe & Brant gameplay~

#WutheringWaves #WuWa #鳴潮 #WuWaCollection #WuWaLeaks

X · Jan 19, 2025, 10:56 AM

It's 80% Brandt showcase

She's spinning and grappling like crazy

[knotty fiber]

Fibi still bugged

The forte doesn't seem to work

[lament shuttle]

Yep

[neat robin]

Phoebe ring makes me nervous

That thing is tiny, bosses aint gonna stand in one spot for you

[dapper oar]

his gameplay is so dramatic i love it

he dont need to do allat but he does it anyway

[rotund drum]

i dont think im gonna finish roccia's echoes in time

it helps that the knights seem to have 100% drop rate on echoes but there's still only like 5 of them on the map

imagine if they werent lmao

[vapid river]

why are you pulling roccia?

[rotund drum]

get one knight every day

[vapid river]

do you not have s6 sanhua?

[rotund drum]

who else am i gonna pull

phoebe and brant both look bad

[vapid river]

literally no one

just save

[rotund drum]

i have like 40k primogems since i keep getting spooked by lingyang

[vapid river]

idk, unless you enjoy her playstyle or like her as a character i see 0 reason to pull her

[rotund drum]

i mean that true of like 90% of the cast

[vapid river]

will she do more damage with camy? yeah

will it be worth it? probalby not

cuz if anyone's camy is having problems clearing tower

i think the sdps being used is the least worrying thing

[rotund drum]

powercreep is a thing but ok

[neat robin]

Ah yes specific 5* pair powercreeps a generic 4* buffer

[rotund drum]

unless you think a 1.0 4* is gonna be good enough for the long term lmao

[neat robin]

Sanhua is very good for any basic dps

Basic + atk buffs