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knotty fiber
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let me

vapid river
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to even think about trying that

knotty fiber
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pull that upo

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I wouldn't tell you to

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if I didn't see it and use it myself

cobalt apex
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how do u play carlo changli A_HuTaoDerp

vapid river
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it just feels troll

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asf

knotty fiber
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it feels like that when you first hear it

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but it's in fact mitigating the "dpsless" support field time

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like normally

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you need time to setup for your supports and sdps right

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and that's when your dps barely means anything

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this gameplay changes it

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you do get some dmg while setting up your supports

knotty fiber
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but I can show you in stream if you want

vapid river
knotty fiber
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I don't have Zhezhi; you hafta watch the video yourself

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but I can show Changli

vapid river
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i figure it's about the same no?

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it's still super qs

knotty fiber
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kind of

vapid river
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ig changli probably wants a little more time on field

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but not much

vapid river
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imma watch this video for awhile

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and try to figure out what's all happening

knotty fiber
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lmao me when I watched Yumi's video of Carli vs Scar

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I couldn't see 50% of the stuffs

lucid pebble
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You can swap on cooldown between changli and carlotta ult if you wanted to.

cobalt apex
knotty fiber
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just saying

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quickswap can be crazy

lucid pebble
vapid river
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nah there's no way this is all planned and shit

knotty fiber
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it is planned

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but needs a lot of practice

vapid river
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he swaps to skeeper

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at 4s in

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after using her skill

knotty fiber
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there's some impromptu moments

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but you have to know how to play this shit

cobalt apex
vapid river
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to just auto once , dash towards the enemy and dodge an attack?

knotty fiber
lucid pebble
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I mean, just play it until you find an order that works for you.

vapid river
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idk

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er reqs

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0

knotty fiber
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you have to understand these mfs are wild

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350% cdmg

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lol

vapid river
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yeah

knotty fiber
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crits everything

lucid pebble
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I like that the systems are flexible enough for me to play the way I want without it feeling suboptimal.

vapid river
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49% cr

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just crit 4head

knotty fiber
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but you have S3 to make up for it

lucid pebble
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Shrimply crit.

vapid river
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i bet it takes them more tries to get it done

knotty fiber
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that's why I suggested you do that anyway

vapid river
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than it would for me to nromally do it anyway

knotty fiber
vapid river
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could have been more

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😭

knotty fiber
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because they had to crit every important hits

vapid river
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yeah

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but when they do crit

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oh boy

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just not a build i can get

knotty fiber
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again

vapid river
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even if i could replicate the gameplay

knotty fiber
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you have S3

vapid river
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oh true

knotty fiber
vapid river
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that ult dmg is insane

knotty fiber
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easily mitigated

vapid river
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yeah

knotty fiber
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even skill

vapid river
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dponm

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don't

knotty fiber
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her skill multi is doubled

vapid river
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you fucking whale me

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roo

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i didn't get s6r5

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like some pandas

lucid pebble
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I didn't get S6R5 either.

vapid river
cobalt apex
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leviathans in the chat

vapid river
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s6r1

lucid pebble
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I might S6 Phoebe.

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Wait.

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She's a support.

vapid river
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why are you whaling me

knotty fiber
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she's dps

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lol

vapid river
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😭

knotty fiber
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I don't

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lmao

vapid river
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oh

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.>

lucid pebble
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Isn't she Jinhsi support?

knotty fiber
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what makes you think I have

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no

vapid river
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OH

knotty fiber
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she isn't

vapid river
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that's ninjy ya

knotty fiber
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she's unrelated to Hsi

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she's a full-fledged dps

vapid river
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^

knotty fiber
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with a DoT form

vapid river
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she's her own person

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not tied to no one

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also this fuckin guy

lucid pebble
vapid river
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has 52.2% skill dmg

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jfc

knotty fiber
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and 2470 atk at that

vapid river
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they are atk/ele

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so that's reasonable

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oh shit

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their zz

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also looks good though

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wtf

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mine is dog water

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compared to that

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holy

knotty fiber
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oh

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my stat is actually quite similar to theirs

vapid river
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whel

knotty fiber
vapid river
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yeah just change out 22cr for 44cdmg

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and assume even at lowest crit rolls 6.3 12.8

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you'd be about the same

knotty fiber
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no

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my cost 4 is mid rolls

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not min rolls

vapid river
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i'm sayhing if you got a new 4cost

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even if it had lowest rolls

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you'd be close

knotty fiber
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going from this to min rolls won't get me near that

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vapid river
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this is wher eyour cr would be

knotty fiber
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I'm losing out on cdmg part

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lol

vapid river
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okay yeah

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you'd be way off cdmg

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though i think they only have one low roll for cdmg

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on all their echoes

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lucky

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even at max roll you'd still be lower

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idk i'll take my ~50-55 second crownless clear

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but that playstyle does look cool asf

cobalt apex
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echoes rolls B_ZhongThisIsFine

rotund drum
knotty fiber
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lmao

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35s on Aix

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you wanna watch? @vapid river

vapid river
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ye

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where am i watching?

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twitch?

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.>

knotty fiber
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lmao

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non crit and I messed up

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just saying

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the gameplay is legit

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yikes

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I hate it when

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SK floats

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and I get fucked up when I switch back to Klt

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Klt ult -> shot 1 -> Cl ult -> EHA -> SK skill
Klt shot 2 -> Cl EBA -> SK AA1 AA2
Klt shot 3 -> Cl skill -> SK AA1 AA2
Klt shot 4 -> Cl EBA -> SK EHA

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that's her ult 1

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from then on it's normal gameplay

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LMAO

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Aix moment

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oh man

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I

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hate

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parry

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yeah

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SK ult remains til final rot

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wait

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how tf did I get yeeted

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that's the limit of outroless

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Taoqi is just sad

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the thing about Mephis is like

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well not really

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it's because Mephis has iframe

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so I have to impromptu around it

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5s

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I lost 1 stack somehow

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the crit less hurts me

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lmao

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I wonder how to use her against crownless

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I tried once and gave up lmao

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would have been sub 1 min if it didn't fly like a bitch and I didn't non crit 3 fken hits

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I

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hate

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changli

cobalt apex
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whats happening C_KEKTao

vapid river
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qs lotta/changli

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it looks super fun to play

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oh i bet 107 looks like they're talking to themselves

cobalt apex
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100%

knotty fiber
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there we go

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1 min

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a lil short

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like

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7 jiff short

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3:59:93

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I had to learn too

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a lil tough at first

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but learning it was fun in itself

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if you switched from genshit to this

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ain't no way you can just know how to play this immediately

knotty fiber
cobalt apex
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i have some experience from calcharo yinlin B_ZhongThisIsFine

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shitass team got cooked after game release

knotty fiber
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maybe this thing is different

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kek kinda wild

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Yumi's rot is faster than mine I think

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no, definitely

cobalt apex
knotty fiber
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they cleared Scar in 36s or so

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though, my rotation during Scar time was kinda bad

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every time

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I see Changli floating like that

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I curse at her

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okay this is stupid

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Changli getting knocked off

cobalt apex
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aerial changli 🔥

knotty fiber
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okay

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my brain just turned off

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I'm dead now

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it was uh

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7s late

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the timer must be at like 4:33 when I use her 2nd ult

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it was 4:25 or so

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way too off

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yeah

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#getzhezhi

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lmao

cobalt apex
knotty fiber
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but it's weird how Changli is so good for her

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quickswap moment

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I mean like

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Crownless is not too bad

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but Mephis is just deeck

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the best I could do for Mephis was 1:10

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extremely consistent and lucky run

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last cycle's rider was the same too

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3 waves

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but rider's HP wasn't like this

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not even the 2 previous waves

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and the buff was better

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see that here

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I was forfeiting 2nd buff

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lmao

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actually lemme try Verina

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actually nvm

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it's not worth 50cv loss

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she could have been better

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she could have got nm rider

cobalt apex
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perfect echo soon trust

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knotty fiber
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surely

vapid river
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cr cdmg

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ez

cobalt apex
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i got def

knotty fiber
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you spelt def and def% wrong

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I gave up on this bitch

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she took me 4000 tuners for no improvement

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or 3000 ish

cobalt apex
knotty fiber
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shoot him

vapid river
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doesn't matter what the last two are

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we take those

knotty fiber
lament shuttle
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!!ban

grave parcelBOT
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Invalid input supplied, no input supplied.

knotty fiber
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he alr got flat atk and that's enough

cobalt apex
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my highest cv piece E_OMEGARAZOR

knotty fiber
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my highest is nowhere near that

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atk where

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lib where

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still trash

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cuz there's no 3rd roll

vapid river
knotty fiber
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so that I can sentence you accordingly

cobalt apex
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it was basic and hp smh

vapid river
vapid river
vapid river
knotty fiber
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kek I wouldn't have discovered it if my friend didn't remind me of the plunge jump

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did you notice what I did before using her skill

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nope

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notice the bar

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1 skill is 1/4 bar right

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now it's half a bar with 1 skill

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it was this

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using skill gives her 3 stacks

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but the skill can use up to 6 stacks

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normal HA gives you 3 stacks

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and it takes as close as 0s to get the stacks from HA

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see?

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this?

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yes

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n plunging takes more time anyway

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aight

vapid river
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qs looks hella fun

knotty fiber
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see

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I wasn't trolling

vapid river
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maybe one day i won't be skill issued

knotty fiber
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even tho I sounded like I did

vapid river
vapid river
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nm heron from daily?

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waaat

vapid river
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also

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story spoilers but ||if they make phrolova playable but no cristoforo OR scar that would honestly be the dumbest shit ever||

vapid river
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i had no idea

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she sold weapon mats

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or crafted

neat robin
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Yeah shes the blacksmith of rinacita

vapid river
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i thought she just made cute clothes and masks

quasi sable
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finally got it

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cobalt apex
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congrats

quasi sable
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Thank you!

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Now I'mma try pull Zhezhi

sweet coral
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Wondering if I should pull Roccia to buff CMLY or pull Bran||’||t to satisfy my needs for m e n

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If I’m pulling Brant then I’m also gonna be aiming his signature

winged belfry
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Brant's sig isn't needed for his support capabilities

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it's more of his peronal damage

quasi sable
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What's his sig do?

neat robin
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Energy sub

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If skeeper can hit 250 er with er 3costs and a 4* er weapon, Brant can too

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Unless I missed in his kit, he doesnt have guaranteed crits like sk
You might be able to go cr 4cost but you arent having a ton of cdmg

sweet coral
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Babygirl deserves the best

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Unless some other sword like Red Spring is better for Brant’s personal damage

quasi sable
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Is sk sig a must pull or no?

sweet coral
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The value of SK Sig is mainly the concerto so it depends

quasi sable
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I see

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Idk how much I have on concertp

dapper oar
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accidentally got her S1 because i needed the corals for tuners

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sweet coral
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Happy little accident

dapper oar
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it was 30 pity too on 50/50

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i guess no roccia for me

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like.. 25% crit rate with S1 and SK right?

quasi sable
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S1 is good right

dapper oar
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is this okay with her S1? since she's gonna get extra crit rate and all

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cobalt apex
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just dont miss the crits

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true

dapper oar
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i mean id have 25% crit rate for her through S1 and SK

lyric fjord
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I'd advise to keep farming sentry once in a while

neat robin
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Cr sentry is still good for consistency

dapper oar
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okay ill keep using the cr

cobalt apex
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1:2 is the goat anyways

neat robin
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I hated restarting jinhsi floor whenever she’d miss nukes

dapper oar
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this is my two piece for sentry

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dapper oar
neat robin
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3/5 subs on either

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You’ll prob want the er anyways

cobalt apex
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do u?

neat robin
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Idk if 1 er sub is enough. She has to burst every rot

dapper oar
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its either 109% or 120%

neat robin
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And its a lot shorter of a rot with s1 substance

dapper oar
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im going with 120%

vapid river
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mine has 109 and she gets her ult right after skill/skill/HA

hollow gorge
vapid river
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though an extra er sub would make it a big comfier

neat robin
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She cannot

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Try missing 3 nukes in a row

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80k vs 450k is huge

hollow gorge
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I did. 180k nukes is my life

neat robin
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Mine does no dmg without critting

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Though I dont use sk with her

dapper oar
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yeah isnt verina better for her anyway

neat robin
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And even then with your noncrit, thats almost 900k less dmg from missing 3 nukes

hollow gorge
neat robin
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Its not

hollow gorge
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if you feel that missing a crit is the end of the world, it would be

neat robin
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180k x3 vs 450k x3 is massive

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I dont mean missing one

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I restarted cuz she missed 3 in a row. In a single fight

hollow gorge
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idk, even her non-crit damage is often enough, it's cutting close to the timer, but still I had to restart with Jihnsi only a couple of times since she was released. Granted, I also had ZZ with Stringmaster pumping a ton of damage

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now mobs kicking you out from Camy's cast is much worse, since you don't do damage at all. I am surprised it doesn't happen more often

spice finch
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I also prioritize crate for my main dps since not all the time SK is by their side 😅

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We need 4* supports like SK

rotund drum
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kusogames hates supports it seems

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your best bet for 4* buffer is probably to bring one of the ones with an attack buff on s6 and rejuvglow/empyreal sets

dusty crown
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17 5-stars to 11 4-stars once 2.1 drops

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(19 factoring in the rovers)

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51 5-stars (57 with MCs) vs 43 5-stars in genshin, although we can expect that ratio to keep going up.

rotund drum
dusty crown
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38 (42 with tb) vs 23 in hsr C_HuKekPoint

rotund drum
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zzz hasnt gotten any new 4*s since the last one

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i already forgot who it was

dusty crown
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ToF has the same SRs as they did at release A_LOLTao

rotund drum
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isnt that game about to eos

dusty crown
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i think they are migrating to a new host

rotund drum
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well yeah they wouldnt need to do that if the old one wasnt dumping them

dusty crown
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Tower of Fantasy is undergoing a significant change in February 2025 as publishing and operational duties are being transferred from current publisher Level Infinite to Perfect World Games, the parent company of developer Hotta Studio.

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it's very unfortunate because the game itself was okayish and had potential

rotund drum
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sounds like eos to me

dusty crown
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but battles lasted forever, it was MMO (and good luck without teammates when it was dead), and while it seemed "generous" at first with all the rewards, it became clear as hell the game was predatory as f

rotund drum
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iirc tencent dropped it because it was losing too much money

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hence the change

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so its likely going to eos soon

dusty crown
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possible

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the matrice system was such a scam

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iirc you needed 4 to complete a full set

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40 ot guarantee the ssr chips, but no way to guarantee getting the ones you needed (you could buy them i guess if you had enouhg currency but it converted back to normal currency you couldn't use for future featured matrice sets iirc)

edgy cobalt
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tower of eos

dusty crown
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exploration was fun but my god the open world was dead as hell

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it was emptier than skyrim

edgy cobalt
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I saw the UI it looks complicated af

dusty crown
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i was actually worried about the world building with wuwa, thank god i wasn't disappointed lel

neat robin
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These are accurate for current beta?

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limber imp
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Does the concerto 4 star weapon work for Brant as a quick swap Changli buffer

lyric fjord
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Critical attack is heavy

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I really dont see how brant can do any dmg without his sig

lyric fjord
limber imp
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I assume she has higher damage

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And his outro buffs Changli

neat robin
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Quickswap

limber imp
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Specifically

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So he must have quick concerto regen

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Or fairly quick concerto regen

neat robin
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Not really

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Changli is quickswap and doesnt

limber imp
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True

quasi sable
neat robin
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Youd outro with brant before doing whatever changli skill nuke

neat robin
limber imp
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I guess Ill use the concerto weapon on Brant then

quasi sable
limber imp
neat robin
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Phoebes on a main dps thats hitting any enemy with frazzle tbh

limber imp
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U need Spector rover which is alr bad

neat robin
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Just cuz encore is first mdps rectifier I can think of
Encore with that sig paired with phoebe whos applying frazzle

limber imp
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U don’t want encore w Spector rover

neat robin
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Encore gets the basic & crit buff

quasi sable
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I see

limber imp
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She’s a better Dps

neat robin
limber imp
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Makes it worth it to use her as a main

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Instead

neat robin
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Obv
Unless you get a double

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And phoebe isnt main dps

limber imp
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She sorta is tho

neat robin
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Her frazzle build for onfield mdps
Her spectro shred is from her outro. Youd best get a quickswap team out of that and not just onfielding her the whole time

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She doesnt have her proper teammate yet

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Its like when changli dropped

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Its possible to fit her into hsi team depending who you have for 3rd teammate until zani
Spectro shred + frazzle dot

winged belfry
neat robin
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This is with sk?

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Or taoqi for skill outro

winged belfry
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Yup, either SK or Verina

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SK is preferable though

neat robin
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Sk is too in demand

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Will prob be leaving verina with hsi forever

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Until a nonspectro buffer with coords lol

winged belfry
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anyway point is, Pheobe alone will be able to fill all Jinhsi's Incandescence, as long as you are smart, and get permanet uptime on Jinhsi outro buff

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Which is one Jinhsi outro every 20s

neat robin
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Support outro > phoebe Confession state + outro > hsi combo, outro back into phoebe?

winged belfry
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after Jinhsi, you would rather go to support than to Pheobe

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If my understanding is correct, you don't need to swap to pheobe more than once per 30s

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What matters the most is that your support being very fast with concerto genration

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Which might mean that SK is even more preferable because of her super intro, which gains 20 Concerto compared to standard 10

rotund drum
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did we ever figure out the spectro frazzle formula

winged belfry
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There are some speculations

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but I haven't seen any rigorous testing with spectro rover

neat robin
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So r5 variation still looking better than r1 sk sig.?

winged belfry
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I mean not really

neat robin
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I’m hearing sk isnt rerunning in 2.1 now. Not sure who the ‘good’ leakers are though
Might just use guaranteed char on phoebe if 2.2 is a havoc patch

winged belfry
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You will get one proc of each once during 30s rotation

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So concerto gains are fairly minimal

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it's +8 concerto vs +16 concerto, when you need 200 concerto over 30s

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And ATK buffs on SK sig is always welcome

knotty fiber
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Fibi does not have coord

winged belfry
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well, she does

knotty fiber
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So she doesn't provide any secondary source

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DoT isn't considered coord

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Different things

winged belfry
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I was thinking about her ring of mirrors

knotty fiber
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Basic Attack

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Not coord either

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Her Ring of Mirror stuffs are all skill or BA

winged belfry
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Zhezhi's ult is also considered Basic attack

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And yet it is also a coordinated attack

knotty fiber
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It's stated to be both

winged belfry
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I'm not 100% certain of this as well

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mainly because we haven't had any proper showcases

knotty fiber
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Anyone that has coord is stated to "perform a coord"

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If they change the wording in v2 then yeah it will be coord

winged belfry
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clear calling of DMG type have never been Kuro's strong suit

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Yinlin's Coordinated are considered Skill DMG, but they never mention it

knotty fiber
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That's specifically for dmg type stuffs

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Not for coord

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And only for 1.0 units

knotty fiber
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Forte counting as skill, same as Yinlin

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For coord, they have a very specific wording

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"Perform a coordinated attack"

vapid river
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i'll just post this

knotty fiber
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Yinlin's is stated now

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winged belfry
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I'm pretty sure it wasn't there before

knotty fiber
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Sanhua too

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So there is no exception anymore

knotty fiber
vapid river
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that's why i went with the one from in game and not from the website

knotty fiber
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1.0 overlook

winged belfry
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have they updated it?

vapid river
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they might have?

winged belfry
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interesting

vapid river
knotty fiber
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I don't look at prydwen for ww

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Just hakushin

neat robin
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Jinhsi doesnt need ‘coordinated’ specifically no?
It considers other sources of dmg
Unless they changed her wording too

knotty fiber
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She doesn't "need" coord

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But she wants coord

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Because coord is a whole different source

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Different element + coord = 3 stacks
Only different and not coord = 1 stack

winged belfry
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cord is a different sources with separete ICD

knotty fiber
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Same element as hers and not coord = 0 stack

neat robin
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Well like coord vs dot

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Does dot count

vapid river
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this is how she gains incandescence

knotty fiber
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Shouldn't

vapid river
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1 every 3 seconds from non-coordinated

knotty fiber
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DoT is like system effect

winged belfry
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Well if, Jinhsi attacks herself and triggers Zhezhi Cord, she'll gain 5 in total

vapid river
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if it counts as attribute damage she'll gain incandescence

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just at a 1 to 3 ratio

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no?

winged belfry
#

1 Spectro
1 Glacio
3 Glacio Coord

vapid river
#

if it counts

knotty fiber
#

Hsi specifically ask for other resonators dealing dmg

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But if DoT works like other games

winged belfry
#

these are all separete things with separete icds

knotty fiber
#

then it's not gonna be their dmg

winged belfry
#

I mean, if that's going to be the case, then SK is off the table

vapid river
#

i'm reading dot damage as still being a damage source coming from another resonator

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but i could be wrong

winged belfry
#

But Verina is back

edgy cobalt
#

whats yapping

vapid river
#

at least with phoebe specifically

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b/c it comes from her little circle thing

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and it still counts as her damage

winged belfry
#

We don't really know how her skill works at all

vapid river
#

ye

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so for now that's how i understand it

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but i could be wrong

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it's very possible i am

edgy cobalt
#

I’m just gonna wait till she actually releases

winged belfry
#

yeah, I also have some assumptions, but it can be very wrong

knotty fiber
#

It's still early anyway

edgy cobalt
#

none of these leakers can cook up actual rots from now till the end of 2.0

knotty fiber
#

You can also test with SRover

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Cuz SRover does use DoT

winged belfry
#

IMHO, wait till 2nd Friday of 2.1, that day we'll have 2.2 beta data

winged belfry
#

BTW, what's the best training dummy in the game?

lyric fjord
#

I've seen ppl say at base SF is 4600 dmg every 3s at 10 stacks on hardest TOA

vapid river
lyric fjord
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So double that dmg with confession phoebe without sig

vapid river
#

easily avoidable attacks

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still a fair amount of hp

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doesn't move at all

winged belfry
lyric fjord
#

??

winged belfry
#

only source is SRover Liberation

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And that only applies 6

lyric fjord
#

Skill + ult is 10 stacks no?

vapid river
#

skill gives 2 stacks

lyric fjord
#

I watched a video of it yesterday

winged belfry
#

they updated skill as well?

vapid river
#

ye

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shimmer prevents SF stacks from reducing over time

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but it doesn't say by what degree

winged belfry
#

oh, shit it does apply sf now

vapid river
#

but it at bare minimum lasts 9s

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so 6 from ult

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2 from skill

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you also need 50 forte

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not sure if you can gain 4 from having 100

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just know that you can gain 2 from having 50 or more

winged belfry
#

yeah, you should be able to

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but getting to 100 forte on Spectro Rover

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Man

lyric fjord
#

Spin can hit twice no?

winged belfry
#

I'd assume it has ICD

lyric fjord
#

I need to test when i get home

vapid river
#

yeah idk well enough about spectro rover in general much less about new changes

neat robin
#

Need to see phoebe in actual teams

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Otherwise skippable til zani then phoebe on rerun

knotty fiber
#

They need to convert her chamuel's star to heavy attack

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It's so annoying to have 2 types of dmg

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zzz

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Just liberation is already annoying enough

vapid river
#

in other news

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can't wait for a pink alt jue

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praying my cn brothers rage hard enough at kuro to make it happen

neat robin
#

They need to make a phantom jue & its pink yes

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I wish she didnt have those flowers in her hair ngl I’d have prob got the skin without them

winged belfry
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Phantom Jue would be the best way to solve it

rotund drum
#

they'll probably nerf coord after empyreangate

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120% coord damage lmao

winged belfry
vapid river
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i'm convinced evlsimp isn't a real person

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some hate fueled ai

lament shuttle
knotty fiber
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I got ww funds

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won a gibaway

vapid river
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hell yeah

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getting that jinhsi skin or pulls?

knotty fiber
#

I got lotta lunite, but I'm gonna save for Fibi

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I don't like Hsi's skin

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I don't like it as much as I thought I would

neat robin
#

Canterella though

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Need to wait for leaks

knotty fiber
#

Healer sounds like an issue because it's gonna be a must lol

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Cartethyia sounds interesting

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that's if the dual element is true

neat robin
#

Ciaconna could be useful for jiyan too

knotty fiber
#

at this point

neat robin
#

I’m too broke for this
Everyone but phrolova between 2.2-4

knotty fiber
#

I don't associate units with the same elements

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because we know SK does absolutely nothing that's specific for Hsi

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and Verina is not at 100% with Hsi cuz of same element

neat robin
#

Oh idc about healer element unless they have coord for hsi

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If canterella has heal + better buff than verina

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I also kinda just want a heal/buffer that isnt rectifier

knotty fiber
#

atp I'm fine with "healing"

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but please

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no more rect

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I don't wanna switch Variation over and over lmao

neat robin
#

3/4 heals are rectifiers

knotty fiber
#

My bingo for her would be:

  • No rectifier
  • No broadsword (sorry I have no faith in this line)
  • Crit buff(s)
  • Easy/fast rotation
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small bingo

neat robin
#

Brant is more dps than healer I think
But like an actual sword user for buffing would be nice

vapid river
vapid river
#

1 preset for all your healers

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ez

knotty fiber
#

there's no set preset

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only echo

vapid river
#

oh

knotty fiber
vapid river
#

oh

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you won a giveaway

knotty fiber
#

I lost all the $5 ones and won this one

vapid river
#

won the one that mattered

knotty fiber
#

I remember

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last year's new year I also won a giveaway

vapid river
#

only giveaway for a gacha i've won was diluc skin

lucid pebble
neat robin
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Zani been spectro for a while

lament shuttle
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guess i can get camellya in 2.2

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since i had pre-farmed all the mats and didnt paly during her patch lmao

knotty fiber
#

what I think is Zani might be spectro DoT dps specifically

lucid pebble
#

Phoebe support, surely.

knotty fiber
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utilizing Fibi's DoT form

lucid pebble
spice finch
#

Good thing Im not having issue with burst bec of zhezhi

neat robin
#

I got 4 glacio% and not. Single had any crit sub

spice finch
#

I had decent amount of glacio echo at first but only 3 (including 2 equipped) got the crits substat 🤣

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With SK, I realized with that build I have 0.1% of not hitting crit

burnt shoal
#

phoebe and zani are both spectro dot?

neat robin
#

Phoebe is dot

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Zani will be somehting related. Nothing about if shes inflicting more dot or has the increased dmg vs enemies with dot etc

#

All I know is kuro needs to stop cooking
I’m looking at every new char except phrolova rn

lucid pebble
neat robin
#

Finally

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Idec what this finishes with

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Wait no it might actually suck

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I dont think 6 cr is worth losing a skill sub when I have 25 cr for free

neat robin
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I need an atk main my subs suck

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Needs cdmg cr er sub though, gonna take a while
Or I lose 7 cdmg and have a spare glacio 3cost with er

lyric fjord
# knotty fiber what I think is Zani might be spectro DoT dps specifically

imagine if they make something like Kafka, to trigger Dots without removing them. Or trigger them, removing them but allowing them to crit or something.
Unless they do this, the SF will remain as a simple "flag" effect to allow more effects to proc since its dmg is not high enough and can't crit/scale

lyric fjord
#

4136 dmg on lvl 100 enemies per tick at 10 stacks, confirmed just now on all enemies of hazard tower 2

neat robin
#

The bears are dead

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No more double crit pieces

lucid pebble
#

Does Phoebe want crit?

neat robin
#

Probably

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If frazzle is just a set amount you’ll want her doing her own personal dmg

neon falcon
wheat moon
#

fact

neat robin
sweet coral
#

Oh wow I got Carlotta on accident

#

Oh well

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That’s okay too who even wants to play Lingyang if they want a Glacio DPS E_pepelol

neat robin
#

Nobody

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Glacio didnt exist before

sweet coral
#

Besides Carlotta looks kinda fun

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I have to farm Frosty Resolve for her though ew

#

I was too busy farming Anthem for Zhezhi

knotty fiber
#

Fibi does only 1 stack of Frazzle in dps mode

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She is a normal dps in dps mode

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Crit

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But she wants crit dmg

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Because her sig gives 36% crate and eternal radiance gives extra 15%

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Or you can just use the old spectro

sweet coral
#

Why did my first instinct was to read “Fibi” as “F-i-bye”

rotund drum
#

feeb

knotty fiber
#

I got bored

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neat robin
#

Thats me tomorrow

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After I farm my 15 hb/hp/def mephis ofc

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Though I do need cdmg hecates for yinlin SuS

rotund drum
#

skill has decent scaling

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NA is mostly optional though

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probs save the weekly mats for roccia

wraith steeple
#

so question

#

wth is all attribute dmg?

rotund drum
#

its just generic dmg bonus

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kusogames cant figure out how to just say dmg bonus apparently

wraith steeple
#

lmal

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lmao*

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so tiebreaker is just 30% dmg bonus

#

when reaching 250% ER?

#

ok

rotund drum
#

yeah

wraith steeple
#

what if I put him the fusion set and built ER?

#

hmmmm

wraith steeple
knotty fiber
wraith steeple
#

oh actually?

#

whats the SD?

knotty fiber
#

thing is if you want the high number of dmg bonus from rider

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then you have to use the old one, which is annoying

#

new one has skill dmg bonus instead of basic

#

but less annoying to use

wraith steeple
#

hmmm

knotty fiber
#

but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter much

wraith steeple
#

whate the perent diff between the two?

knotty fiber
#

less than 5%

wraith steeple
#

like 5-7%

#

oh

knotty fiber
#

tiebreak is the easiest to use

#

because it's nonconditional

wraith steeple
#

thats true

knotty fiber
#

but you have to like

#

farm

wraith steeple
#

ofc

knotty fiber
#

if you built Encore before then you won't need to do much for Brant's fusion set

wraith steeple
#

now his whole attack buff

#

is it actually good or no?

knotty fiber
#

probably energy regen cost 3

#

yes

wraith steeple
#

is it always up?

knotty fiber
#

but I don't know if the ult's conversion shares with forte's

wraith steeple
#

or downtime?

knotty fiber
#

he has 2 conversions written in the kit

#

in forte and in ult

wraith steeple
#

mhm

#

the forte one activates for 12 seconds right?

neat robin
#

Can I

knotty fiber
#

forte is perma

neat robin
#

Hsi + brant

knotty fiber
#

ult is 12s

#

oh

#

it's replaced

wraith steeple
#

?

knotty fiber
#

not stacked

wraith steeple
#

oh

#

ok

#

forte is perma!?!?

#

well damn

neat robin
#

Every whatever stacks of forte he auto heals team right?

wraith steeple
#

every 25 bravo

#

and then he continues to heal through his ult right?

knotty fiber
#

Forte's Stage moment is replaced by Ult's My moment

#

My moment gives higher conversion

wraith steeple
#

right

neat robin
#

Fuck phoebe could I actually do hsi brant quickswap & idk yuanwu for coord ig

wraith steeple
#

sure why not

neat robin
#

Brants outro is skill% isnt it

wraith steeple
#

mhm

#

you could do mortifi tbh

#

if you. Have c4

neat robin
#

And he heals so no verina needed SuS

#

I have c6 basically every 4* except lumi yuohu

#

So 20% atk buff on morts c6

wraith steeple
#

id say morfi

#

tbh

neat robin
#

I want to see canterella first

#

Just to see what kind of healer she is

wraith steeple
#

you gon be waiting a while for that 1

neat robin
#

Nah we’ll get those leaks partway through 2.1 1st half

#

Idc about phrolova

wraith steeple
#

a month away

#

not too long

neat robin
#

It was gonna be phoebe for spectro shred

#

But since frazzle prob wont count for hsi forte I either end up triple spectro (ew) or healerless

neat robin
wraith steeple
#

you and me boyh

#

both*

#

brant and chang li finna be too fun

#

got damn i can't wait

neat robin
#

Dont have changli which is why I was sorta eh about actually getting brant

#

But never really thought about it. he fills skill outro + heal role

#

Id assume you want to outro out just before jinhsis final skill nuke or the last couple hits

#

That sounds more fun than phoebe (I was really only gonna want her for zani duo later anyways)

wraith steeple
#

yeah

#

is wuwa on a 6 week schedule still?

knotty fiber
#

yes

wraith steeple
#

is the difference between changlis weapon and the standard weapon that much different?

lyric fjord
#

i regret pulling it, it doesn't change much and i now need to keep in mind the stacks of passive, on top of my forte mechanics

wraith steeple
#

regret pulling her weapon?

#

damn

#

wait

winged belfry
#

Around 10%

#

For Broadsword, Gauntlets, Rectifier, standard banner 5 stars have ATK subs

#

Which is obvious not ideal

#

And as such, Jiyan, Jinhsi, Yinlin, Xiangli Yao see around 25-30% difference from going form their Sig, to a standard banner 5 star.

#

Carlotta also Camellya see around 15% damage difference because standard Banner weapons they can use have CR sub

#

But they are unable to utilize passives in as well

#

Changli both likes the CR, and is able to use the passive rather well

rotund drum
#

carlotta sig is a bit better since static mist has a really bad passive

#

although her sig is also really specific to her so unless you really want to minmax you might as well just hold it

lyric fjord
#

chixia can use it too :D

rotund drum
#

the passive just isnt very good for anyone other than carlotta herself

#

honestly its not very good for carlotta either since the new cryo set gives so much dmg bonus

#

its only like a 20% dps increase iirc

#

15-20% since you wont even have it up all the time

sweet coral
#

I mean your next best option is a support weapon so uh

#

Pulling Last Dance should still be fine

#

Especially since they are very stingy on Pistol characters

#

Besides can’t Carlotta run Glacio/ATK 3 costs to compensate for the over saturation on DMG Bonus?

knotty fiber
#

Atk ele is her main one lol

wraith steeple
wraith steeple
#

now I heard that wuwas starting crit dmg is the same as genshins crit dmg but I don't think that's true bc vape melt exist in genshin and starting out with 150% would go dumb right?

vapid river
#

Are you new to wuwa? >.>

#

But yeah, the starting value is 150 but that's bc the equation for cdmg is different compared to genshin

#

Or rather genshin just hides the value?

#

Idk, the result is the same but the equation is slightly different

#

They both still work out to a 1:2 ratio being better in the long term

winged belfry
wraith steeple
#

dam it sure doesn't feel like that in genshin

wraith steeple
#

and thanks yall

vapid river
#

Forgot about that

dapper oar
#

I have the standard weapon complete

#

what should i choose next?

#

im thinking the rectifier since there's like 50 characters that needs rectifier

vapid river
#

You have both sword and pistol?

#

EoG and SM

#

Though the pistol is really only for mort

rotund drum
#

pistol is ok for carlotta too

vapid river
#

but it's not good

#

every mdps wants their sig

#

it's ridiculous how much more damage they get out of them compared to standard 5*

rotund drum
#

its about a 15-20% increase over the f2p option which is pretty in line with most sigs

#

kusogames doesnt make really busted general use sigs anymore

#

the only thing the sig actually gives over standard is the damage bonus which is heavily oversaturated for cryo already

dapper oar
vapid river
#

oh

#

.>

#

uhh you could go for dupes?

dapper oar
#

yeah its why im asking which dupes would be best

vapid river
#

or pull standard characters and hope for verina

#

probably for EoG

dapper oar
#

true

rotund drum
#

probably doesnt hurt to get one of every standard in case the support needs them

#

or get dupe swords/rectifiers

vapid river
#

yeah they have 1 of each for standard weapons

#

EoG probably the best though

#

lots of active sword users

#

then probably rectifier yeah

dapper oar
#

true but also so far i have every sword sig somehow, so i dont really need it, im going to go for rectifier for the time being yeah

vapid river
#

yeah if you have camy/changli sigs you probably don't need EoG dupes

limber imp
#

I wonder what weapon cartethiya will be

#

She seems like a rectifier tbh

#

Or a sword like jinhsi

#

Where she levitates it

vapid river
#

i hope she punches shit

lyric fjord
#

The recent questionnaire scared me, i'll save all my permanent wishes in case a new weapon type is released A_GaspTao

vapid river
#

surely they just give another free selector at anni or something

lyric fjord
#

Since i have verina s2, eog and SM i really would have no use for another standard

burnt shoal
#

at least u can share sigs in wuwa

burnt shoal
#

genshin doesn't have the signature weapon share thing

winged belfry
#

We'll see

#

Apparently new endgame mode might have different restrictions

rotund drum
#

they're already nerfing sigs so they dont do anything for anyone other than the char they're for anyway

neon falcon
dusty crown
#

At least

neat robin
#

I dont think you know what nerf means either

dusty crown
#

But atp I'm not really willing to commit to dps characters without having their weapon (unless I have decent alts)

neat robin
#

The signature weapon is customized for the character it belongs to
Thats why its a sig

rotund drum
#

the older sigs had a bunch of stuff that was relatively easy to proc for everyone though

#

like stringmaster is basically just atk buff

quasi sable
#

What Brant role is?

rotund drum
#

he's a healer with some quickswap damage and pyro outro buff

quasi sable
#

So what team he's excels at?

rotund drum
#

atm its just changli lol

#

they'll probably add a new pyro dps though

winged belfry
#

Will it be easy? Fuck no

#

Will it be possible and possibly fun as well, hell yeah

vapid river
#

i think they were talking about weapons

winged belfry
#

Oh

quasi sable
#

Is Changli still good unit

vapid river
#

she was never good

winged belfry
#

If you are a quickswap god, then Changli XY team is by far the best team in the game

quasi sable
rotund drum
#

she was heavily overshadowed by JH at release and powercreep since hasnt helped her any

winged belfry
#

Generally speaking yes

#

But there are other QS teams that are also good

rotund drum
#

brant is ok for her but his amp being skill isntead of lib isnt ideal

winged belfry
#

You have your classic Calculator stuff

quasi sable
#

I see

winged belfry
quasi sable
#

Hmmm

rotund drum
#

him being able to fill healer slot while still buffing her is good though

winged belfry
#

Majority of Changli damage is skill

quasi sable
#

What about Phoebe
Is she good unit

vapid river
#

i would say "generally no" but "specifically for qs yes"