・wuwa-lounge

[rotund drum]

so its only a 10% increase

and most of the time you hit pity rather than the natural droprate anyway

i dont remember the actual math on it but iirc it only increases your actual droprate by about 5%

[neat robin]

I use the food cuz I have a bunch of the mats to cook it

[vapid river]

whale

imagine buying premium ingredients for 10% echo drop rate

couldn't be me

[cobalt apex]

its 16.5%

[neat robin]

Look idk why I had 20 in my bag
But I did

[vapid river]

oh there was a point where i made a bunch

but soon stopped

yeah i have 15

but feel 0 reason to use

[neat robin]

I’m using them speedrunning carla farming

And nothing is rolling nice

[burnt shoal]

how does this work

oh and is there an indicator

if your food is active

can't see anything if there is

[cobalt apex]

wdym

[burnt shoal]

idk how math there work

[rotund drum]

5% overall droprate increase i mean

which is about right going by that

5.5% or so to be exact

[neat robin]

Yes above the forte bar

[rotund drum]

there's an echo drop pity so if you dont get anything after 3 kills the 4th is guaranteed

[burnt shoal]

ohhh it's that icon

[rotund drum]

each cell is the average % of the time you'll get a drop on that specific kill

so 20% of the time without food you'll get a drop on the first kill, and 16% of the time you'll not get anything on the first kill and get it on the second, etc.

and since you're already going to pity more than 50% of the time anyway the droprate buff doesnt make that much of an overall diff

[vapid river]

it's still dogshit 😭

[burnt shoal]

why is 2nd and 3rd so low

[rotund drum]

because its the chance to get that exact outcome

so 3 is you lose 1 and 2 and win 3

imagine you flip a coin

the first flip is 50% chance to get heads

the chance for the first flip to be tails and the second to be heads is 50% x 50%

[burnt shoal]

oh so the sum of those odds has to be 100%?

the 1 2 3 4

[rotund drum]

basically yeah

[burnt shoal]

how is average computed then

[rotund drum]

its the average droprate per kill after factoring in the fact that the drop is guaranteed on 4

so if you killed 100 mobs you would get 33.88 echoes on average

[burnt shoal]

don't know how to do math on that

[rotund drum]

thats literally what the chart is showing lol

[cobalt apex]

the number of the kill muliplies by their respective chance

[rotund drum]

in layman's terms there's 4 possible outcomes that result in you getting a drop so he totaled the chance of each one occurring and averaged it out

[cobalt apex]

add all 4 and u get the average kills per echo

1 divide that and u get the average chance

[burnt shoal]

isn't it just 100% if you add all 4

[rotund drum]

its 100% because the 4th is guaranteed

[burnt shoal]

still don't know where 39.48 came from

[burnt shoal]

woa

last one became atk%

[cobalt apex]

thats one decent piece

[vapid river]

one thing that's bothered me

if zani is the montelli's best employee

why didn't she recognize carlotta?

shouldn't she know the family and what they look like?

[knotty fiber]

lmao Fibi's S2 is funny

[rotund drum]

let's say its a gacha with a base rate of 20% and 100% hard pity at 4 rolls

20% of the time you will spend 1 ticket to get the echo or .2 tickets

16% of the time you will spend 2 tickets or .32 tickets

etc

in total you will spend an average of 2.952 tickets to get each echo which is 33.88% rate

do the same math but with 30% rate and you get 39.48% rate

[neat robin]

Something carlotta isnt main branch
Idk if you did companion story

[vapid river]

not yet?

does it unlock after all of main story is finished?

she is the 2nd daughter

[rotund drum]

arent the montellis basically the NOL

its a big organization

[neat robin]

Ah yeah after main story you get carlottas

[vapid river]

and she made zani receive rover

so she knows who zani is

idk

[neat robin]

How many of them prob only speak over the phones tho

[knotty fiber]

I don't know if Kuro fucked something up

[vapid river]

ig organizations of that scale can be weird

[knotty fiber]

but Fibi's S2 is crazy

[burnt shoal]

ohhh i see 1 echo / 2.952 tickets

[knotty fiber]

her outro popped from 1.3k to 3.2k

[vapid river]

that is quite the jump

[knotty fiber]

outro base dmg is 528%

forte increases its multiplier by 2.45 times

and S2 amps it by 2.5 times

2 different multipliers

[neat robin]

Ult nuke, ring forte whatever & swap off?

[knotty fiber]

they are onto something istg

[neat robin]

Also her ring thing confuses me
Phoebe gets enhanced basic when inside her ring
Does it have to be her hitting enemies inside, from outside. or can any teammate hit enemies in there and get the extra coord hits

[knotty fiber]

she has to be standing inside

and the ring is pretty small

[neat robin]

The outside part

Inside is pretty clear its only changing her own basics

[knotty fiber]

I don't get your question then

[vapid river]

that ring is smol

though i wonder how quick the swap will be

after doing ring

going confession

then swapping

will 30 be enough to fill her concerto?

surely after you've already worked through some of her rot yeah?

i only worry enemies like rider/mephis/crownless/aix

will just fucking ignore that and run away

like they normally do

although, does the res shred drop if they leave the cirlce or do they just need to be in it once?

[knotty fiber]

that's what I'm concerned about

[vapid river]

b/c if it persists even when not in the ring

[knotty fiber]

she will be useless against a lot of bosses

[vapid river]

then that's actually good

[knotty fiber]

lol

[vapid river]

yeah if the debuffs are locked to only enemies in the ring

she will be lowkey dog shit

mobs actually move around in this game

[knotty fiber]

actually maybe not that useless

because her skill CD is 1s?

[vapid river]

now if the rings were double to 2.5x their size wouldn't be too bad

yeah she can move them

but once you swap

it's like

painge

[knotty fiber]

I'm interested in her S2 now

I wanna know if it actually works how I think it does

[vapid river]

though ig she can be qs?

her outro doesn't actually buff

[knotty fiber]

yes

[vapid river]

what's her 4 cost echo even do?

which one will she want

rather

[knotty fiber]

she can do hyper too

but have to pick

[vapid river]

nm aix?

[knotty fiber]

her dmg right now is spread all over

if you run frazzle set

then nm aix is your only choice

there's no frazzle cost 4 other than nmaix

[vapid river]

yeah

does her dmg count as coord?

would coord set be viable?

[knotty fiber]

no

[vapid river]

welp there goes that

[knotty fiber]

I don't think her dmg is coord

her dmg is basic, heavy and lib

all spread

lmao

[vapid river]

idk, with her kit revolving so heavily around frazzle it would be counter intuitive to put anything other than frazzle set on her

i thought a lot of it got converted to basic no?

[knotty fiber]

it's not that heavy

her dps mode requires only 1 stack of frazzle to work

which her intro can provide

[vapid river]

okay half her kit

revolves around frazzle

[knotty fiber]

it's her dot mode that is made heavily revolving around frazzle

[vapid river]

which you don't necessarily have to even use

yeah

seems like a waste when she's the first one to actually use it

spectro mc doesn't count

who uses smc

[knotty fiber]

do you know

[neat robin]

This part
Is only phoebe able to trigger the refracted dmg ?

[knotty fiber]

SRover can clear F4 Aix

[vapid river]

yeah i saw

[lucid pebble]

Wait.

[vapid river]

i'm going to say that means only phoebe can trigger it

[lucid pebble]

Phoebe kit outge.

[vapid river]

since this morning

at like 6am

maybe earlier?

[lucid pebble]

Gib link.

[vapid river]

it was posted here

but no pin

mods care not for wuwa lounge

[knotty fiber]

I don't know
I looked at CN phrasing and it looks like all BA can

[neat robin]

Phoebe & brant kits

[vapid river]

smh

wish i knew cn

[neat robin]

They need better translators

[cobalt apex]

shouldve learnt chinese

[neat robin]

I’m skipping phoebe until I know zani kit

[vapid river]

b/c that skill reads "When phoebe is outside the ring" which should mean when phoebe is both on field and outside the circle

[neat robin]

‘a basic attacks’

Idk if they cant even use proper grammar

[vapid river]

yeah

when phoebe outside
a basic attack that hit the mirrors

idk

it's probably better to wait till officially released

for nuance like that

[knotty fiber]

If you are asking whether or not Zhezhi's coord dmg can proc it

no

most likely not

[neat robin]

More like

Jinhsi

[vapid river]

if anyone's basic attacks can

[knotty fiber]

Jinhsi is skill

[neat robin]

Antares brought it up earlier

[knotty fiber]

[neat robin]

Jinhsi uses basic attacks while midair tho?

[knotty fiber]

nope

it's skill

not basic

if you ask why I know

she doesn't proc Mortefi's coord

[neat robin]

Morts coord is from heavies

One sec I need to go read her kit

[knotty fiber]

heavy gives double the amount of coord

not that only heavy can proc

[neat robin]

Ive used hsi and get mort coord before

[knotty fiber]

I haven't used the combo again

but when I was using them

which was 1.1

never got morty's coord during aerial mode

same with my friend

[vapid river]

i think jinhsi's very first set of basic attacks count as basic attacks

no?

[knotty fiber]

yes

[vapid river]

yeah

[knotty fiber]

it's the normal set

[vapid river]

but after you e

[knotty fiber]

not the enhanced set

[vapid river]

ye

[lucid pebble]

Air combo power creep.

[neat robin]

These are basic attacks

Skill dmg type
But basic attacks

[lucid pebble]

She can cook.

[knotty fiber]

just go do it instead of reading

[neat robin]

I cant rn

I’ll try tomorrow

[burnt shoal]

are people still using the old sets for mort and zhezhi etc

or going to move to the new coord sets

[knotty fiber]

I am

[burnt shoal]

once have good pieces

me just on old sets for now cause that's where i have good substats in

idk if i should move them too or not

[neat robin]

if hsi has basic type attacks and anybody can hit phoebe ring for the coords
Like antares was saying earlier today it should be good for hsi team without zz

[neat robin]

Moonlit zz mort
Yinlin new best is empyreal with hecate

[vapid river]

i'll farm new sets when i can't 30/30

until then they stay with what they have

except the nm echoes

and xy getting back to vt

[burnt shoal]

ohhh ic

[neat robin]

Same xy onto void again is first goal

Second goal after carlotta

[lucid pebble]

Her higher resonances seem really weak.

[knotty fiber]

people think I was spewing nonsense when I was testing a lot of Hsi comps during her day

[neat robin]

But need an atk 3cost that rolls well is gonna be death

[burnt shoal]

is her s1 worth buying in shop

[lucid pebble]

S1 looks good.

[knotty fiber]

her S4 is better than a lot of S4 out there

[burnt shoal]

compared to like say jinhsi s1

[knotty fiber]

probably everyone lmao

[lucid pebble]

You can insta max spectro frazzle.

Whatever that does.

[burnt shoal]

me going to think now if i should save my s1 shop for phoebe if i get her

or just max out jinhsi

[lucid pebble]

Less time in stacking stance, more time in dps stance.

[burnt shoal]

ohhh it sounds mechnically better

[knotty fiber]

Fibi's S5 is literal garbage

[burnt shoal]

jinhsi s1 i think is just alot of dmg bonus

[knotty fiber]

similar to Klt's S5 prebuff

lol

and her S6 is just bad

[vapid river]

what does 10% res shred equate to dmg wise? if the hit does 100 dmg is it now going to do 110?

[knotty fiber]

yes

[lucid pebble]

Feels like S1 and S2 were swapped with S5 and S6.

[knotty fiber]

others are like 20% or 25% dmg bonus

[cobalt apex]

whats the res formula in wuwa

[knotty fiber]

which is diluted

same old

[vapid river]

that's actually pretty fucking good

[cobalt apex]

ah

[neat robin]

Ok so its basic type while transferring into midair (which is prob why I remember getting mort coords) but then is not considered basic hits after being in the air

[vapid river]

my 550k nukes with jinhsi turning into 605k nukes

[burnt shoal]

would you guys say phoebe weapon is worth pulling for

[vapid river]

unless her dmg is on par with mdps no

[knotty fiber]

if you plan on playing her dot form later down the line

yes

[burnt shoal]

if u already have standard rectifier

[vapid river]

but it's hard to know atp

[knotty fiber]

because it has friggin 50% amp for spectro dot

[vapid river]

oh...

[burnt shoal]

or zhezhi

[knotty fiber]

she is mdps

[neat robin]

I guess you can cope hsi phoebe.. taoqi? Either get skill outro or bring yuanwu or someone for nonspectro coord

[knotty fiber]

she has double roles

[vapid river]

and her dots also benefit from the spectro shred

[knotty fiber]

she can play as DoT

but she is indeed a dps

[neat robin]

Phoebe feels more like changli role
Goes wherever you have a open spot

With luck we get 2.2 leaks so soon into 2.1 that I’ll be able to know if zani’s dropping and if I need phoebe

[burnt shoal]

does wuwa have a dot 4 star

[knotty fiber]

her dot form has 10% spectro shred at base

but currently she probably doesn't work really well in dot form

[knotty fiber]

fibi is the first dot unit to be released other than SRover

[vapid river]

ye and she gains another 10% from sequences

[burnt shoal]

ohhh

[vapid river]

well, that is s4

that's a little steep

i def won't hit that

[burnt shoal]

i remember when i entered the new region they introduced spectro frazzle tutorial

[knotty fiber]

I won't be aiming for her S4

[burnt shoal]

did they put something else too

[vapid river]

i won't be aiming for her at all i don't think

[burnt shoal]

me already forgot tutorial

[knotty fiber]

just saying her S4 is better than most S4 out there

if not every

[knotty fiber]

playable units will have access to dot

every element has dot

[burnt shoal]

ohhh

[neat robin]

Aero dot and spectro dot are similar

Havoc and fusion stack up then explode

Glacio is lampy freeze stacks

[knotty fiber]

it's more like

elemental status

[neat robin]

All with their own differences but you run into the effects from enemies

[knotty fiber]

if you fought Aix and Beringal during the hard times

spectro and aero dot would be your acquaintance

[neat robin]

You know what would be funny
That spectro stack that aix holo gives you

Not dot

The slow/ cant dash jump swap

[burnt shoal]

oh when aero comes back meta hoyo won't powercreep jiyan directly

hoyo will just make aero dot a thing now

maybe

[vapid river]

hoyo?

[neat robin]

Yeah theres an aero echo set

[vapid river]

genshin brainrot

[neat robin]

Kuro

[burnt shoal]

oops

[neat robin]

The spectro frazzle set
Aero dot set does the same thing

[knotty fiber]

currently none of the sdps unit work very well with Fibi

[neat robin]

Maybe they’ll adjust before release

[neat robin]

Prob why leaks say phoebe+zani

[knotty fiber]

so yes she's more like a quickswap unit

[vapid river]

there's one that buffs basic dmg pretty well

and she swaps in and out pretty quick

[knotty fiber]

but her dmg is more of heavy

[knotty fiber]

lol

[burnt shoal]

me find it funny kuro is copying their old patterns

[neat robin]

Mort

[vapid river]

is it?

[knotty fiber]

heavy takes the majority

but it's not like

[burnt shoal]

new arti set 2.0 , havoc + energy recharge pair

[knotty fiber]

70%

[vapid river]

okay but mort is stinky

[burnt shoal]

1.0 also had the same pair

[knotty fiber]

yeah

his kit doesn't fare well with Fibi

[neat robin]

1.0?

That was jiyan and yinlin

[burnt shoal]

i meant the domain

the ER set was with the havoc set

[knotty fiber]

tacet field

use the right term or ppl won't know

[neat robin]

Ah

[cobalt apex]

[knotty fiber]

I think it was glacio + spectro too

[burnt shoal]

me forget terms

[knotty fiber]

and 2.0 also has glacio + spectro

[burnt shoal]

sometimes in genshin just call things eidolons too

cause star rail

[neat robin]

No spectro & tunes
Aero & glacio

[burnt shoal]

glacio + electro too

[knotty fiber]

oh

[neat robin]

I got way too many glacio shit from farming for jiyan

[vapid river]

idt i ever used aero tacet fields for jiyan farm

[neat robin]

Hsi + xy at the same time except now xy doesnt want tunes

[vapid river]

i spent weeks killing monkeys

and aero chickens

[knotty fiber]

lmao chickens

[neat robin]

My jiyan has a car

Or robot thing

Whatever it is

[knotty fiber]

carapace

but yes it is a car

[vapid river]

monke chicken

still mad that i just replaced the hp%/hp rolls for def%/def from my normal to nm

[burnt shoal]

do u find those rainbow echoes in the overworld

haven't seen one yet

[vapid river]

ye

you have to uhh

do all the fighting puzzles?

well idk if you have to actually do them

or just find them

i think two of them need a quest to unlock?

[burnt shoal]

i see

are they better than the old echoes

[vapid river]

yes

[burnt shoal]

ohhh

what's the max level

[vapid river]

10 probably?

i'm at 9 rn

[burnt shoal]

is it 100 points per level

[vapid river]

just go

and level it up

[burnt shoal]

ok i check later

[vapid river]

it's literally just clicking to collect things

😭

[spice finch]

Will there be a SK rerun next patch?

[vapid river]

strong belief there will be

not sure if confirmed though

[spice finch]

Im thinking of getting her S2

But better if no SK since my fund is low after getting carly

[knotty fiber]

no confirmation

but people are predicting SK yes

the rerun cycle is pretty short anyway

[cobalt apex]

im cooked i need so many chars

prob just skip zz after getting carlo sig

[knotty fiber]

who told you to quit

[cobalt apex]

😔

[knotty fiber]

didn't even get Yao smh

[cobalt apex]

i should have enough for skeeper anyways so

its all good

[burnt shoal]

omg cruise share

[cobalt apex]

the only problem is my 2nd team

[burnt shoal]

it's rover

so big

[vapid river]

welp

did a thing >.>

pulled another and bought the waveband in the shop

[lament shuttle]

3 more to go then

[vapid river]

nah

s3 off of just buying the bundle things in the shop

like 60? 80?

i'll fuckin take it

plus her sig

wtf happens from s1 to s3

that makes her ult go from like 280k to fuckin 710k?

and her outro

this shit broken

[knotty fiber]

[vapid river]

i just beat aix

in 37 seconds

????

1 rot

is all it took

the only reason i got this

is b/c it died

while only getting a chance to attack me one time

scam

thought i could upload and it'd just play through dc

[knotty fiber]

welcome to my world I guess

(been there since S2 Tsubaki)

[vapid river]

okay but mine is also s2

she's not well built though

i'll admit

i think she's missing 2 cdmg subs

250 cdmg

is super low

[cobalt apex]

ill be happy to receive one from u

[vapid river]

yeah two cdmg rolls are the lowest roll possible and two echoes are just missing cdmg rolls

[dusty crown]

huh

dafuk

i finally managed to do the tempest mephis hologram at difficulty vi

with s2 carlotta

the probolem

my best at difficulty v was 1:43 (a while ago)

at vi it died in 0:36 😂

[lyric fjord]

yeah carlotta is life changing for holograms

[dusty crown]

monke is still **ing annoying

[lyric fjord]

my only issues are the sentry and the ape's ghosts

yeah had to retry a dozen times the ape

(i'm in the no skill club, getting carried by main carry meta)

[dusty crown]

no skill club too

monke's vibration reset when it randomly teleports even if it's down is annoying

[hollow gorge]

Ok, Wuwa did something I never thought would be possible. It went from honest SciFi to fantasy and I didn't even notice it. Like it did 180 on all worldbuilding aspects and it didn't break my suspension of disbelief. Somehow all my alarms stayed quiet through whatever Rinascita is, including flower-induced fever dreams tubpups and stuffed toy echoes. Good job Kuro, what can I say.

[vapid river]

2.0 story just that good

[hollow gorge]

Well... It has its own measure of facepalm moments, like ||the trope with Carlotta turning the gun on MC and saying "Sorry"||. But the amount of attention to detail is staggering

[hollow gorge]

Devs nerfed Mephis too. He isn't targeting airborne units with some attacks anymore. And some attacks that would one shot you that required a well-timed dodge became parryable. So that gives both visual que for incoming attack and wider timeframe to counter it.

Also you can stun(deplete vibration) his clone now, which I don't think was possible in early 1.x

[dusty crown]

don't need to do that when carlotta one cycles it

monke jumping on top of his tower right after carlotta's first liberation hit is annoying

for some reason the first shot after always hit

[hollow gorge]

OG Mephis would probably spam kill Carlotta during her ult tbh, because he wouldn't be staggered out from his attacks as easily as nowadays

[dusty crown]

but the following ones, even if i'm closer than the first shot, don't

[vapid river]

100%

og mephis does not care

https://tenor.com/bvaHL.gif

such a pain

[hollow gorge]

Yeah, enemies that have infinite poise is always an annoyance

Especially when a sneeze towards you will send you flying

[vapid river]

okay but why is roccia kinda fun to play

[robust axle]

Brant and changli

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-dange-the-simpsons-ralph-wiggum-meme-gif-17180214

Also

Chat

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/s/YkYmuElEUj

WHO IS THIS

[dusty crown]

https://tenor.com/view/boing-ball-bounce-sproing-cute-gif-27523964

[knotty fiber]

Havoc woman

[blissful tulip]

Best combat archetype in a gacha, bouncing

Genuinely think she'll end up being the best character for echo grinding due to her forte's ease of use

[vapid river]

exactly

[vapid river]

she just generally feels good to play and it's painful

i don't want to pull for her

my camy is fine as she is

but this stupid dumb idiot

jumps up and kills everything

she even juggles

[blissful tulip]

Look at it this way, you'll pull Roccia to make echo farming easy and because she's generally very fun

Unless you're saving for Zani/Others

[vapid river]

i'd prefer to save for zani

[knotty fiber]

even tho I hate her outfit and model

but her face is pretty

way better than Klt

I might pull her for that

zzz

[vapid river]

she's so sweet too

[burnt shoal]

omg what happened

[vapid river]

you went past the border

[burnt shoal]

what border

i just climbed this and it gave that message

[vapid river]

the border of the game

as in you went out of bounds

???

[vapid river]

her jp va is fucking chika from kaguya love is war

[knotty fiber]

guess what

I'm not there yet

[vapid river]

i'm sorry

[knotty fiber]

I have been too busy with limbus and re1999 lately

nah it's fine

I'm just

immersed in their story

[vapid river]

in r1999?

[knotty fiber]

and limbus

[vapid river]

ah

but yeah, great jp va

en va is... not so well known

which seems to be a trend

for a lot of their en cast

[knotty fiber]

I rarely like EN VAs

but some of them really are head and shoulders above

not strictly to WW

[vapid river]

ye en vas in general

some are definitely better than others

[burnt shoal]

how are you supposed to enter this door

violet light leading me to it but closed

finally

[neat robin]

There were 4 doors only 1 is open

I didnt figure out his puzzle though I fought him at 100%

[burnt shoal]

ohhh

[spice finch]

Hello. Do we have enka site but for wuwa?

To see stats/echo summary

[tawdry sapphire]

Hakushin

Is there any Brant or Phoebe calc yet ?

[jade trout]

hakushin is a database, enka is an account overview. not the same thing.

[tawdry sapphire]

oh

[jade trout]

idk if wuwa has that. or if there is anything that even reads accounts/characters in the game.

[spice finch]

I saw wuwaflex but you have to enter everything manually from character weapin to echo stats

[cobalt apex]

@knotty fiber

hahahahah...

[quasi sable]

Geez fucking cheese

Go touch some grass smh

[cobalt apex]

nah it said 13h because i didnt feel like closing the game midway

its like half of that

[quasi sable]

Oh.....

Sorry.......

Cuz I often do that too

[cobalt apex]

i watched some movies midway and wuwa was just running in the background

[quasi sable]

Also congrats on pulling Carlotta

[cobalt apex]

140 pulls tho

[quasi sable]

Hahaha

Took me 110 for me I think

Now I need more for her gun

I might pull zhezhi on next rerun

[cobalt apex]

at least im 52 into weapon pity

so like 15 away

[quasi sable]

I'm at 40

So 27?

Yea I don't think I'll make it in time

[robust axle]

Chat are there any good 4* weps

[quasi sable]

For who?

[robust axle]

Anyone 😭

Mostly for my carries

Jiyan and jinshi

I heard the new rinastica craftables werent complete dogshit

[blissful tulip]

Could be better, but DPS Roccia's doing well

[dapper oar]

is roccia like a good unit to pull

or is camellya fine on her own with sanhua

because i really want brant but that means i have to in good faith pull for his daughter

[blissful tulip]

Sanhua's that good

[quasi sable]

I remember the difference between sanhua and roccia in camy is like

20%+ in someone's calc

[dapper oar]

what is the 4 cost boss for the empyrian set

[blissful tulip]

Hecate Weekly or Tempest

[dapper oar]

thanks

tempest boss cant spawn for some reason i did the quest

[lament shuttle]

You. Need all the dreamscape challenge thingies to be attempted

[dapper oar]

dream patrol?

[rotund drum]

b&

oh i was scrolled up

[limber imp]

What’s changlis best 4 cost now?

[lucid pebble]

Gayge rider?

[neat robin]

Nightmare rider

[rotund drum]

looks clunky

[lyric fjord]

?? no it doesnt

[neat robin]

He complains about everything

The loadout looks fine

Thats gotta be 20 total saves right

[lament shuttle]

Tbh I’d only swap out load outs on healers, sub dps that use heron or empyrean so 20 is en masse

[neat robin]

Healers most likely
Atk builds vs hp builds

Rn unless you build your moonlit as two atk 3costs you still need a different slot for every char (except zz/sanhua)

[lilac hare]

It looks clean tbh

[lament shuttle]

yes and no u can re-use all the 4 costs and 1 costs just swpa the 3 costs across the diff presents

presets*

[neat robin]

Yes thats what I mean

You need a different slot for every moonlit char still

If you have generic atk 3costs you just use 1 slot

[dusty crown]

finally did the monke with like 128910923 revevils lol

only sentry left but it resists glacio 😦

[winged belfry]

When I'm in "being grumpy and complaining about everything" contest, and my opponent is @rotund drum

[edgy cobalt]

say whatever you want about echo loadouts, its a useless feature to me

is there even a way to select teams in one go for toa/events? that’s what I want them to implement if ever

[rotund drum]

if the loadout doesnt save to the team comp its pretty useless tbh

[neat robin]

What attacks does carlotta parry with

I’m struggling

Every time these dream patrols ask for counterattack stuff I have to switch to camy or jiyan team

[knotty fiber]

intro, ult

she can parry with all the ult shots

I don't rmb if EHA can

[rotund drum]

i just mash NA until the circle appears then do outro

for those quests

you usually have to wait for it unfortunately

[neat robin]

Sounds painful

Swords can just do by basics I’ll keep swapping to one of them

[lucid pebble]

I parry with first attack.

But she steps/slides forward before the shot.

So there's a delay.

[neat robin]

Ok how do I get inside here

[neat robin]

Nvm was lifer puzzle stuff

[edgy cobalt]

yeah there’s just one door and then you can figure out the rest

[rotund drum]

the doorspam takes a while and finding the first door takes forever

[lyric fjord]

hello, how do i pass synthesis level 5 please?

sry dumb question, it was in the potion crafting interface

[neat robin]

@vapid river I beat your jiyan
Idk what I did

[shut isle]

when she uses her shotgun

intro, skill, ult, and her basics when she has the stacks to use shotgun

[neon falcon]

which changli cons are significant power spikes ?

[shut isle]

bia... what is this whale talk

[neon falcon]

I must do whatever it takes for my queen

https://tenor.com/view/cat-speech-bubble-cat-drinking-water-stupid-stupid-cat-gif-12327862702270255434

I'm 72 guaranteed pity it's not impossible

[vapid river]

418 cdmg is fucking wild
Did you have food buff?

[vapid river]

So you're not going to get lotta?

[neon falcon]

nah

[blissful tulip]

SS rank on a challenge stage in Rinascita, gives 100% crit dmg I believe

And 100% CR

[vapid river]

External buffs

Scammed

[neat robin]

No I was just doing the dream patrols lol

I didnt realize the scores increase stats

[blissful tulip]

Did you use SKeeper or are your echoes perfect

[neat robin]

I think my jiyan is missing one single cr sub

Double ele 3costs

[blissful tulip]

[vapid river]

That's a lot of attack for double ele

Must be nice

[neat robin]

Yeah and zero def subs

[vapid river]

Mods ban this individual

[rotund drum]

its an AR-15 i think

but yeah GL actually parrying with carlotta unless you just happen to get lucky

her parryable moves have like a full second of startup

[neat robin]

Yo

Leaks are phoebes sig is a 36 cr

Brants sword 70whatever er (like sk er sub)

[neat robin]

Its funny both my male mains are (happily) allergic to def subs

I need to replace jiyans car

Has to have better cdmg & er rolls at minimum with atk%/cr

[rotund drum]

if they were going to just let us fly everywhere they should have added a car too

or at least a plane

instead of the stupid genshin wings

[neat robin]

Genshin didnt create wing gliders

[hollow gorge]

Welp, my 1 in 10 chance didn't proc to get a 1 in 10000 echo

[vapid river]

true your jiyan needs another er roll

mine couldn't live on the er i had

i was hella coping

[neat robin]

Wait

Just saw a video

Lumi on the new wings with her hamster gun

[shut isle]

ace combat ahh gameplay

[vapid river]

that shouldn't even work

why does that work

[neat robin]

I need to try this

[vapid river]

she kinda has that pilot vibe going too

pilot suit

plus jacket

she was made for the skies

[neat robin]

Will be back in 5

[vapid river]

good luck soldier

[neat robin]

If it works or they used a glitch to get it

Wtf

Ok this is really difficult on mobile but

[vapid river]

does it work?

[vapid river]

kek

wtf

air fighter lumi

dropping packagesbombs

[neat robin]

Need my dash button on the other side so I can fly upwards

I cant hold all 3 buttons on the right at once

[quasi sable]

The only bomb she's dropping is those cheeks on landing top of me

[vapid river]

https://tenor.com/view/smash-bros-yoshi-hammer-hit-smash-gif-16289952

[cobalt apex]

[vapid river]

did you finish the story?

not the companion quest

just the main story

i have some speculation about rococo and brant

and by speculation i think they're like, very very very old

[neat robin]

Main story & carlotta story are done

I only have 2 side quests left

[vapid river]

okay

||so brant and rococo both talk like they were at bardolino's performance||

||when he got kicked out
when he was younger
and he's old asf now
rococo saying it took a downpour to remove all the flowers||

||brant also saying stuff about old memebers leaving new ones joining||

||also rococo saying something like "maybe it wasn't death they wanted for us but for people to forget instead"||

it all just seems sus

or maybe i'm reading too much into it

||but brant also made a comment, almost affectionately, about remember how he used a wingray to spread flowers||

i forgor one oh seven hasn't done story

i'll spoil for now

[lament shuttle]

source: mapleaf

Cantarella Havoc Healer, Phrolova's team mate
Phrolova Main DPS
New Aero DoT Echo Set: Sky of Fleeting Clouds (To be released in 2.2 with Aero Rover)
Name subject to change.
2.3 First half: Zani
Second half: Ciaconna (Aero Sub-DPS, pairs with Carthethiya)
Carthethiya possibly 2.4

[vapid river]

so phrolova is coming out

scam

i hope they incorporate something into the story

otherwise i'll be upset

[lament shuttle]

Look at all these healer and

Sub dps

With no main dps wtf

[vapid river]

yeah i'm down for it

jiyan+cart+ciaconna

👏 GET👏 MORT👏 OFF👏 MY👏 TEAM👏

[lament shuttle]

But mort is good

[vapid river]

mort is stinky

he needs to go back to the lab

and figure out how to not be stinky

[neat robin]

So 2.2 havoc patch?

I wanted to see zani leaks before deciding if I spend pulls on phoebe 😔

[vapid river]

go read my spoilered stuff

[lilac hare]

Damn carlotta already getting a skin

[neat robin]

Stoppp

I need sk sig

[vapid river]

i'm guessing lotta has made them some money

[neat robin]

I can t a have zani and sk and elf all in one patch

[vapid river]

if they're already making her a skin

[cobalt apex]

fuck me

i want her skin

[vapid river]

are skins going to be limited/fomo bait?

[cobalt apex]

but skins are so fucking expensive

[vapid river]

or do yall think they'll come back?

[cobalt apex]

wdym i have to buy 9 welkins for a skin

😭

[neat robin]

Ngl I would hope at minimum the skins come back whenever the char’s banner reruns

[lilac hare]

I thought it’d be like genshin? They will have a discount at first then be available at the shop but with the original price

[vapid river]

ah

[lilac hare]

Is that not the case here?

[vapid river]

that might be why it has discount price rn

[cobalt apex]

most likely yea

[vapid river]

i have no idea if it is or isn't but that makes sense

[cobalt apex]

11 welkins no discount

[vapid river]

i see a lot of "discounted offers!" in gacha and go "yeah it's been that price for 4 years, such discount, much savings. wow. 🙄 "

[cobalt apex]

since it does have an end time

its probably will go to no discount

[vapid river]

so when i see discounted prices in gacahas that's the normal price to me

true

idk how kuro operates though

never played one of their gachas

[cobalt apex]

doesnt make sense if it just gone imo

[lilac hare]

125 > 75 since 2020

[cobalt apex]

that one is peak yea

[neat robin]

Yeah I’m not sure. Id like more in game info
Carlotta voicelines dont really add anything to brant/roccia

[vapid river]

yeah, such discount, much savings. wow

[vapid river]

ye we'll have to wait, but i'm thinking there's more to them than just goofy pirate troupe

[neat robin]

Ah well

[vapid river]

also who tf is ciaconna????

[neat robin]

||the church kicked them out. Cant remember why for roccia, but brant was sent away cuz he questioned about the sentinels purpose or sum||

[vapid river]

data miners? where you at? give us crumbs or something

[neat robin]

Canterella is the pastel purple lady right?

[vapid river]

||i don't think rococo tells us why she got excommunicated, but i have a feeling her eyes and ability to literally feel frequencies has something to do with it||

[neat robin]

Its religious cult
I’m sure theres so much other stuff we need to learn still

[vapid river]

wait

fuck

when rococo is in your party

can't you go look at the in game menu

where she has voicelines and stuff?

i should have looked at that

could have been clues

[neat robin]

Pretty sure I checked and there werent the background info tabs

[vapid river]

smart

[neat robin]

She was definitely missing a whole section when I went in there

Had xy sig lol

[vapid river]

WAIT

I'M STILL DOING THE STORY BUT

[vapid river]

||WHAT IF THEY THOUGHT ROCOCO WAS THE MAIDEN!!!||

in other news look at this overdramatic dweeb

[rotund drum]

im out of dennies again

did they ever add any better ways to get them

[vapid river]

bp >.>

i'm at like 6mil?

[rotund drum]

i had a lot before 2.0 but they're all gone now

might as well spend resin on it

its either that or echoes

[rotund drum]

they call it a flight challenge but as far as i can tell its just streets of simcity

[edgy cobalt]

2am at Denny’s

[quasi sable]

Sir, this isn't zzz

[neat robin]

I spent the 3.5m credits or whatever to 90 carla and her sig
And have earned 3m again since 2.0 started

Idk how you run out

[rotund drum]

echoes and prebuilding stuff for roccia too

[neat robin]

Also kinda wondering if I should start pathing for either standard pistol or sword to start refining one

I dont see ever needing the blade or rectifier
Got stringmaster & jiyan/hsi blades

[rotund drum]

can probably use it on a support

[neat robin]

I have sword on hrover and sanhua(which is the one id refine) or pistol on mort

But also if leaks are suggesting the 2 aero chars in 2.3/2.4
idk if I want to just wait til we get more info in 3 months or wtvr

Not like r1 vs r2 on a support’s weapon will change much

[vapid river]

just pull on standard banner for more verina dupes

surely you won't get cal/lingyang

[lucid pebble]

What is Roccia?

[vapid river]

rococo

sadly

this is the only gif

i could find

https://tenor.com/view/roccia-wuwa-wuthering-waves-rococo-gif-14414117116942169579

[lucid pebble]

What's her team role?

[knotty fiber]

sdps for red head bitch

[vapid river]

camy's bis sdps

[rotund drum]

sovetskaya roccia

[vapid river]

basic atk + havoc dmg buff

gives her a succ gadget in case you were unable to hit mobs with her hold attack

[cobalt apex]

hello

i got carlo

[knotty fiber]

how many tuners you got now

[knotty fiber]

also gratz
sorry this is not my thing, I'm not very used to this

[lucid pebble]

Sanhua retirement?

[knotty fiber]

yes

[rotund drum]

carlo clover

[knotty fiber]

she's like 20%+ better than SH in dmg, but with QoL

[vapid river]

tell people "grats"?

[knotty fiber]

yes

[vapid river]

kek

happens

oh do i play lotta s3 any differently than at s1?

[quasi sable]

What QoL in roccia?

[vapid river]

should still be same rot wise yeah?

[knotty fiber]

gathering

[quasi sable]

Oh

[cobalt apex]

[quasi sable]

Actually that helps camy alot

[cobalt apex]

its echoes time for me now

[vapid river]

do i play s3 lotta any differently than s1 or no? guessing rots stay the same yeah?

[knotty fiber]

I think the best rotation now is

ult immediately on entrance

[lucid pebble]

What set does Roc run?

[knotty fiber]

then quickswap other supports

then 2nd ult is full setup

[vapid river]

???

what

[knotty fiber]

applies for S1 too

but you need a certain amount of ER

[vapid river]

so start of stage

go through full ult

[knotty fiber]

no

[vapid river]

then through supps?

[knotty fiber]

you swap out during ult

[vapid river]

don't you lose it though?

[knotty fiber]

you shoot one, then swap to other 2 supports to do their shit

do that 4 times

you don't lose ult

you lose the EHA buff

but it's raw ult so doesn't matter

[vapid river]

[rotund drum]

sounds sweaty

[vapid river]

wait wdym do that 4x?

are you trolling me?

[knotty fiber]

what you're doing is basically utilizing your support onfield time

[vapid river]

i'm so confused

[knotty fiber]

do the 4 bullets lol

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

she fires 4 times

[vapid river]

OH

i was like

[knotty fiber]

each time she fires a bullet, you swap cancel it

[vapid river]

cycle through supports

4x

oh

wtf

[knotty fiber]

it's hyperswap

[vapid river]

this feels troll

[knotty fiber]

no

[vapid river]

idk how that can possibly clear faster

okay so let me get this straight

[knotty fiber]

it's in fact what I'm using for other quickswap comps too

[vapid river]

it's

[knotty fiber]

"How", you ask?

I didn't understand it at first too

[vapid river]

ult first shot
swap to supps GO THROUGH FULL ROTS
swap to lotta to SHOOT ONCE
swap to supports and DO FULL ROTS AGAIN

[knotty fiber]

but it's basically

[vapid river]

and do that

[knotty fiber]

no not full rot

[vapid river]

until boss is dead

[knotty fiber]

the ult will run out if you do full rot

you just do barely enough stuffs

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

so that she can fire all 5 in 10 seconds

[lucid pebble]

But you lose the ult buff.

[vapid river]

so i'm not trying to intro/outro

[lucid pebble]

Literally negative dps.

[knotty fiber]

you don't have the buff to begin with

so you don't lose anything

[vapid river]

can't lose what you never get

ig

[knotty fiber]

yes

[vapid river]

i would have to see a video of that actually clearing faster