・wuwa-lounge

[neat robin]

I use turtle sanhua cuz sk has fallacy

[vapid river]

i use heron sanhua cuz i'm too lazy to get a turtle for her

[neat robin]

Turtle good while beyblading

[vapid river]

ignore all these turts

and yes some of them are cdmg

and cr

and healing

b/c young cucumber wasn't sure which turtles would be good in the future so he kept all of them

[neat robin]

Ew I guess I’m gonna need a cdmg fallacy if I get sk sig

Was gonna say my sanhua is mid af

[vapid river]

no, mine is mid asf

[neat robin]

3 of her echos havent been tuned at all

[vapid river]

[neat robin]

Ok

You win

[vapid river]

i gave up

[vapid river]

oh wait

i should get her more er

shouldn't i

[neat robin]

If you ult every rot you have enough

[vapid river]

then nvm

she's good

[neat robin]

Mine is 141 with the 12% sub on eog

So 10 from moonlit, 20 from subs and done

[vapid river]

eog really carrying sanhua

eog is actually sanhua's sig

and you can't change my mind

ice sword for an ice queen

i can't wait

[neat robin]

Same

[neat robin]

Whys your screen so bright btw

Game looks better when you adjust it

[vapid river]

hdr probably?

[vapid river]

or nvidia settings

i turn brightness up a bit

ye

digital vibrance has some impact as

well

[neat robin]

I went to tower to see

[neat robin]

Too pale

[vapid river]

that's digital vibrance at 50%

i'd have to lower contrast and brightness for it to look better

or just ramp it back up

[neat robin]

One of the first things I did was drop brightness setting down to almost lowest

Just the ingame brightness

[vapid river]

100% digital vibrance

idk is that better?

i prefer brighter images

as far as games go

[neat robin]

Can I just say
I want these glowing trees everywhere

Its cool watching them show up every night

[vapid river]

honestly i need to fixreinstall windows on my good pc

low settings are killing me inside

[rotund drum]

they should just call it the hell-borne geochelone since thats what it feels like to farm it and watch the waking up animation every time

[vapid river]

i wonder if they fixed getting stuck inside of it or not

that's true hell

[rotund drum]

'hey you know how we're trying to compete with genshin and they have that super annoying respawn timer between world bosses"

"what if we did that but also added a 30-second waking up animation that you have to sit through every time"

[neat robin]

Ah yes maguu kenkii

[vapid river]

the tracking on turtle is still dog shit too

they just need to make it smaller

or something

[neat robin]

The tracking tries to have you break the ice on its legs thats why

[vapid river]

it also takes 30 seconds to die

if it doesn't drop an echo

[neat robin]

But its unnecessary mechanic after you can brute force it

Annoying tracking locks onto the sea bunnies

[rotund drum]

i actually killed it and teleported to kill a different boss then teleported back and it was still doing the dying animation lmao

[vapid river]

it legit takes forever

like brother

just fucking die already

[rotund drum]

they should do what they did in gbf and make him into a cute girl

people got bored of fighting the six dragons every day so they made them into cute girls

and hot guys

[lament shuttle]

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[neat robin]

Sword

[lament shuttle]

fusion support dps sword user ?

[rotund drum]

male 5*...

its a bold move

[lament shuttle]

now that yinlin going to new empyrean set this guy gets full voidthunder looks good

[edgy cobalt]

meanwhile your screen was dark

asl

[edgy cobalt]

this def a bit brighter tho

[vapid river]

almost really good

if it wasn't for that flat def

like, do i really need 6.9% cr?

he do be lacking in er so it might honestly be worth it

actually he doesn't need the cr

[lament shuttle]

is cv the same

[vapid river]

i have s4

he gains 16%

from just existing basically

and 12.5 from skeeper

it'll be fine

he goes up to like 94 with buffs

i can live

yeah after doing an e/intro/ult

but honestly it comes down to how he feels in tower

b/c by rot 2 he's suffereing for energy

[lament shuttle]

im stuck in empyrean farm for the next few weeks

[vapid river]

good luck

[lament shuttle]

for ZZ and Yinlin

[vapid river]

[lament shuttle]

i realized my jinhsi is missing 2 crit rolls too fuck

farming the old sets feels so bad lmao

[vapid river]

so he's got ult on 2nd rot but not third

[lament shuttle]

just kill everything in 2 rots then exz

[vapid river]

okay yeah

this is so much better

i was lowkey struggling to clear mephis

like 1:50

but that one echo with er gave me a solid 3 ults this time

[lament shuttle]

the one in middle chamber?

[vapid river]

cleared in like 1:25

yeah

though this is with verina

who i usually have him with

i imagine it'd be much faster with skeeper

121k crit

on his ult's big hit

didn't even look at the other two smaller ones

but probably over 40k

yeah this is so much better

even with the loss of cr

[vapid river]

did they increase hp for middle bosses btw?

idk how/where i'd even look to see that

[lament shuttle]

it feels like they did def but maybe the buff is just worse too

[vapid river]

could be

now to try with skeeper

ult hit against the first mob

ult hits against boss

must have gotten more of a floor buff here

125k + 82k

i'll fuckin take it

18k on autos

skeeper too good

buffed jiyan

[vapid river]

ye i changed contrast and brightness a bit

[finite shale]

At what UL a newbie should farm for echos ?

[vapid river]

whichever ul gets you level 20 databank

35?

40?

[lyric fjord]

What on earth? Are all your echos 10cr 20cdmg?

[vapid river]

he has mort and skeeper buffs

i can show them in a second

[lyric fjord]

Is it eidolons buffing his cv?

Sry i meant sequences

[vapid river]

this is him when he's not being buffed

i'm missing a cr on an echo too

to take an er sub

[lyric fjord]

Oh ! Ok thats very close to my carlotta stats with atk+dmg 3 costs

[vapid river]

he was struggling in tower so i fixed his issue

[lyric fjord]

Where is the crit dmg coming from then?

[vapid river]

i've still not found an atk% 3 cost for her

he gets 32 from s3

and 28% atk from s2

[lyric fjord]

Damn ok and 25 from sk

[vapid river]

ye, plus the 12.5% cr from skeeper

[knotty fiber]

12% cdmg from passive

[vapid river]

figured i could afford to lose one cr roll

oh true

inherent skill also gives 12%

damn, he just gets stacked with cdmg bonuses

and another 10% atk from inherent skill

[lament shuttle]

5 patches of a jinhsi healer wut

[sweet coral]

WHY DID NOBODY TELL ME ABOUT BRANT DRIP

Brant Fusion Lib DPS for Changli to finally use her full Outro

[vapid river]

is phrolova actually confirmed or is this some feelscraft leak shit

[lament shuttle]

Heck if I know I don’t read Chinese maybe fox or leifa who follows leaks more would know

[vapid river]

i hope certain things are wrong

[dapper oar]

why would you farm there when you can just do it overworld

[vapid river]

b/c he's a whale that lacks patience

could he wait a week and possibly farm the same amount of echoes? sure

will he? no

[dapper oar]

the most annoying thing was her boss

since it's one every 6 minutes drop

i got some pieces for roccia alongside it and I'm probably even not gonna pull her

[lucid pebble]

What else would I spend resin on?

[dapper oar]

i have more problems with the tuners so most of the time i farm those tacet fields for them and the echo exp

[lucid pebble]

So the same place I spent mine?

[dapper oar]

yea but not for the echoes

always got garbage from those

still madge they made that one quest that allowed us to only farm the echo exp

then removing it after the quest

[neon falcon]

[dusty crown]

i hate this game

i didn't care one bit about roccia

||and they protrayed her as the most precious thing ever||

[winged belfry]

Beta is out

New story, new area, new echoes confirmed

Now we just wait for dataminers to get kits and talent tables

Should happen in like few hours

But it'll all be in Chinese only

It'd be great if we could get some Mandarin speakers to translate it

ML translations of CN to EN are atrocious

[neat robin]

Yeah I like it better. I dont like when brightness turned up & it looks washed out

[outer jetty]

What is the symbol mean again

I know rectifier and sword

[lilac hare]

Phoebe

Brant

[neat robin]

Ok well I dont like the look of phoebes kit

But brant is indeed heal & shield support
Changli duo with that outro too

[rain briar]

have yall experienced bugs doing coop?

[neat robin]

I dont have changli… want brant but I might skip so I can guarantee sk sig

[winged belfry]

why?

[neat robin]

Idk it looks like she’s going to need a lot of field time
And I dont like the ring

Enemies move around so much in this game

[winged belfry]

What field time

If you play her as sub DPS, you just pop the ring a swap back

[neat robin]

Her entire forte?

[winged belfry]

Her outro is a nuke

Her Forte has two modes

If you want her on sub DPS duty, you swap to her once every 30s for like 2s

[neat robin]

Sdps for who
(Dont say zani shes not in game yet)

I dont see where you’d want her yet

I might change my mind once videos start coming out
But for now? Nah

[winged belfry]

We'll see

[neat robin]

If they’d stop dropping 5* spectros itd be nice

[winged belfry]

I want to know if you can get on field mode, get outro, get big debuff for Spectro res for all enemies in the area, and then pop normal, unbuffer mirror for coordinated attacks

If that'll be possible, she'll be great for Jinhsi

Spectro Res down will be by far the most valuable buff in Jinhsi team

[neat robin]

Eh idk

[winged belfry]

It's multiplicative

[neat robin]

Oh not for the shred sry

Sent that right after you said shred

[winged belfry]

Yeah, res shred is insanely rare

[neat robin]

For coords
You’d have to give up either your support buffs or choose between a skill buff outro or a non-spec coord

Unless you skipped carlotta in which case you have phoebe zz jinhsi

[winged belfry]

Her res shred is effectively an outro buff without being an outro buff

If we can make it work

[neat robin]

I can see this easily

Problem is I dont think s0 carlottas want to lose zz

[winged belfry]

Also, be being Spectro coordinated, she'll allow for SK to be used in Jinhsi teams instead of verina

[neat robin]

I’ll wait to see videos of phoebe
I dont like her design but if she has good combat thats more important

Triple spectro isnt good for hsi’s forte

Its not til. s2?

[winged belfry]

S2 doesn't change anything about it, aside for filling up once at the start of fight/ToA

Just once, that's all

[neat robin]

Ah onetime
I knew there was one reso that let her go mono spectro

It’ll be how much forte stacks you’re losing vs dmg you gain from spectro shred

[winged belfry]

IMHO, she's much less field time intensive

[neat robin]

I kind of want to see how the mirrors work
And how like

[winged belfry]

You mighty just want to stay on Jinhsi for like two skills

[neat robin]

Screen space? If the mirrors are obnoxious I’ll genuinely skip

[winged belfry]

Biggest issue would be probably uptime on buffs from her Sig and 5pc Celestial

[neat robin]

Yeah I guess shes enough personal dmg she wants dps set
How long does 5pc last?

[winged belfry]

I'm talking about Jinhsi

As for Pheobe, she would use DoT set

Which has free 25% Spectro and 20% CR

Make no mistake

[neat robin]

I’m looking at the wrong aix

[winged belfry]

Her off field damage will be probably double of what Zhezhi has

[neat robin]

Hsi should have full set time
15s after intro is her entire rot

Unless you wanted to intro in and be swapping back to phoebe

[winged belfry]

Yeah, you would do 2 15s mini rotations

[neat robin]

I’m gonna sound really dumb but ive never checked hsi stats mid fight

[dawn willow]

Oooh he can heal, I was wondering why his weapon has energy regen

[neat robin]

Does her sig stack? It doesnt say it does like xy does

[dawn willow]

Hmmm Brant or Phoebe....

[neat robin]

Cuz if her sig just refreshes after skill use she can effectively have 24s of 48% skill

[winged belfry]

Who's?

[neat robin]

Jinhsi

Intro gives buff. Skill gives buff
Most of the sigs that can stack dmg% say they stack

[burnt shoal]

omg

my first time getting this echo too

[neat robin]

Now hope it rolls good for the rest

[dapper oar]

who is phoebe good for

[burnt shoal]

didn't get another crit again

but it looks ok

[neat robin]

Debating that rn
Leaks are saying she’ll pair well with zani

Maybe jinhsi for now

[dapper oar]

yeah but brant is number 1 priority rn for me

jinhsi if you dont have zhezhi or?

[neat robin]

Dont know. We dont have more info than kit wording yet

I just want videos

Cool animations can change my mind even if I dont like the char design jinhsi

[quasi sable]

FINALLY

now the gun left

[winged belfry]

Ok, I've misunderstood the Pheobe's forte

[burnt monolith]

4 second skill cooldown

[winged belfry]

She will have Spectro res shred in there DoT form without issue on Outro

We are going mono Spectro with that

And if my calculator are correct, Jinhsi will be getting 45 Forte instead of 50

Oh man

My happy

My Carlotta is happy because she'll be able to keep Zhezhi

Jinhsi is happy because she's getting SK and Pheobe

And won't need to use Yuanwu

Peak

Now Question is, how good her on field form will be

But that'll be all based on animations

[vapid river]

I'm just wondering how good 10% spectro shred will be

And if she's with jinhsi I'm guessing you'll always want to go confession

Apply shred, gain 30 concerto and it lasts 30s which is more than enough time to swap someone else in to buff jinhsi further

Like zz >.>

Or taoqi for res skill

[winged belfry]

My prediction is that Jinhsi damage will be lower, but as long as Pheobe is property build, total team damage will be higher, because Pheobe will have highest off field damage in the game

[vapid river]

Possibly

And if that's the case I'll skip

I'll still probably skip anyway

[winged belfry]

Also, now you will be able to use SK with Jinhsi

And that'll already be an upgrade over Verina

[vapid river]

Ngl we need another sk

Also I rarely run jinhsi with a healer

[winged belfry]

Previously you had to use Verina to max out forte

[vapid river]

It's usually zz and yinlin

[winged belfry]

Now Phoebe provides Spectro coordinated attack

So gain from Verina is much smaller

[vapid river]

I think losing to lingyang and getting 0 verina dupes has made me dislike her

She could be so good on my account but instead I have this bricked lion twink

[winged belfry]

I've been running S6 Baizhi as Carlotta healer recently.

It preforms above expectations

How? You might ask

Her buffs are based on skill

Not outro

No need to fill her outro fully

If there is no need for healing you just swap in, skill, swap up

It's 15% ATK, and 12% Glacio

[burnt shoal]

ohhh it's like the aalto encore dynamic except they were just made to look bad cause of society rip

[opaque flume]

Wrong photo

Are phoebe and Brant op?

[neat robin]

This is only reason I may consider phoebe
If shes fun to play and also works for both hsi & zani

Gonna be like emilie. Dont like her but kit is good enough I’ll pull

Ive been holding all these frazzle set echos I find while farming for carla too

On guaranteed char too it’d depend on pulls if I still want to get sk sig

[lyric fjord]

Does spectro frazzle scale on anything?

[neat robin]

Atk

I dont know if it crits actually

[opaque flume]

When are we getting anims

[lyric fjord]

we already have them, except for forte's

which is 99% of phoebe's stuff

[winged belfry]

That's half of reason I'll be pulling for her

I would hate to see all these echoes wasted

[dusty crown]

does brant seem to have any added value to non-changli (and future fusion main DPS) teams compared to Verina

[sweet coral]

Omg Brant looks awesome

[lyric fjord]

He doesnt necessarily use the healing set though

[sweet coral]

Brant is a support???

[lyric fjord]

With sig, the new ER set seem much better

[sweet coral]

No way

He looks like a DPS

But hey, male healer

Too bad I don’t have Changli

[burnt shoal]

avenger

[dusty crown]

he does look like a support that does dmg at first glance, but i'm completely unaware of how much damage he deals

due to how his ER increases his atk

[sweet coral]

Tbh I kinda hoped he was a Main DPS

That deals mainly Liberation damage

So you get a really hardcore Fusion team with Brant and Changli

High skill ceiling but looks absolutely fire

[rotund drum]

oh 5* roccia is a fist user

i may have to simp her sig since its not like im getting brant lmao

[lament shuttle]

https://streamable.com/6nwh5n
https://streamable.com/zlhg43

https://wuthering.wiki/character_1206.html Brant
https://wuthering.wiki/character_1506.html Phoebe
https://wuthering.wiki/weapon_21020036.html Brant Sig
https://wuthering.wiki/weapon_21050046.html Phoebe Sig

[sweet coral]

Fusion and Res Skill?

Makes me question why Changli has a buffing Outro in the first place

Instead of a healer though, Brant seems more like a Sub DPS that also has heals

So like unless we get another Sub DPS with an Outro that doesn’t go away on switching then I think we’ll see both Brant and SK/Verina

[rotund drum]

brant looks like ez skip

phoebe doesnt look that good either though tbh

[neat robin]

Brant changli +someone

[sweet coral]

Changli please tell me why tf you have a buffing Outro

[outer jetty]

That ring size

[neat robin]

Huh brant outro is skill dmg

[outer jetty]

[neat robin]

Changhsi brant

[rotund drum]

zani is probably pyro skill damage

i dont see what the point of brant is otherwise

[jade trout]

I mean, ZZ is made for Carlotta basically, no? she wasn't particularly great before that from what I can tell. So who knows.

[sweet coral]

Changli

Changli Brant SK/Verina

[rotund drum]

i think ZZ was made for JH but she happens to be good for CLT

or they tweaked CLT to work with ZZ

[sweet coral]

Possibly

[rotund drum]

after the fact

[sweet coral]

Changli is so fucking weird bruh

[rotund drum]

there's no mdps on that comp so idk about that

[sweet coral]

Changli

[rotund drum]

you'll be autoattacking with changli like 50% of the time

[sweet coral]

Quick swap

[rotund drum]

quickswap to who

brant?

[sweet coral]

Wait nvm I don’t get why Brant’s outro is another one of those then

[sweet coral]

Yeah

I mean he looks like a DPS too

[rotund drum]

he's a healer who builds ER so idk about that

his nuke is like 500%

although so is changli's lol

1.1 things

[jade trout]

I'm assuming there's probably another fusion char we dont know about in 2.3? Idk too much about how changli works, but is she rly skill dmg focused??

[sweet coral]

Yeah

[jade trout]

[sweet coral]

Her Forte and those slash/bird things also count as Skill damage iirc

[limber imp]

Yep

Changli/Brant/Shorekeeper seems to be both changli and Brant’s BiS team

Changli also buffs liberation and fusion damage

Brant needs a lot of er to cast liberation a lot

They buff eachother

[jade trout]

oh interesting...

[limber imp]

It’s a dual Dps team

[jade trout]

are we expecting a changli rerun...

[sweet coral]

Definitely yeah

[limber imp]

I think so yeah

[sweet coral]

Maybe Changli and SK

Sorry Roccia

[jade trout]

I dont have enough

[limber imp]

I think it’s shorekeeper first half Changli second half or smth

Also how’s phoebe looking

[sweet coral]

Who knows

Maybe mid

But who cares if she breaks the game or not

I need my Brant

[lyric fjord]

We havent seen phoebe outro dmg multiplier and forte animations

[limber imp]

We have

For both

Here

https://youtu.be/VKyjY6f4o44?si=e87HRCwvFd4PTjkW

It says Brant but it starts w phoebes

[rotund drum]

phoebe seems kinda bad too since her MVs are low

[limber imp]

Hers looks rlly cool

[lyric fjord]

Oh ty sir

[limber imp]

She flies like a witch on her staff lol

[rotund drum]

she seems like a spectro debuffer but atm the only spectro dps is JH and JH wants coords

[sweet coral]

The only thing I need breaking is my bac-

[limber imp]

Maybe zani

[rotund drum]

idr what spectro frazzle actually does or what the mv on it is

[lyric fjord]

Her mv are fine, spectro frazzle dmg calc seem weird tho

[limber imp]

Isn’t it like Spector DOT

[sweet coral]

Dot basically

[limber imp]

Wuwa black swan…

[rotund drum]

maybe if the DOT is huge

[opaque flume]

Phoebe has a bird

[rotund drum]

its probably sometihng memes like 50% per tick though

[opaque flume]

Cool

[limber imp]

Also what are all these roles

He’s really meant for Changli isn’t he

How many pulls can we get this patch?

[opaque flume]

Ya

He’s perfect for her

[jade trout]

I will pull changli for him

🫡

[limber imp]

Changli also buffs him

[jade trout]

I will try anyway...

[opaque flume]

I might unironically pull him he looks really cool

[limber imp]

Liberation plus fusion dmg bonus

[jade trout]

I'm 100% getting him

[sweet coral]

I’m a Brant simp

[jade trout]

but I dont think I have enough for him + changli

unless I get lucky

[sweet coral]

Please

I need him, Changli AND SK

[limber imp]

Thankfully I skipped jinhsi for Changli…

[opaque flume]

Lock in choc

[jade trout]

oh I am skipping SK

[sweet coral]

And I’m very certain both Changli and SK are rerunning next patch

[limber imp]

I think it’s smth like shorekeeper first half and Changli second

Also phoebes second half right

[lament shuttle]

Did jinhsi already rerun

[jade trout]

brant is 2nd half I think. based on their drip, they showed phoebe first. so I assume she's first?

idk

[sweet coral]

Not yet

[jade trout]

idk how they do things in wuwaland

[sweet coral]

She’s next phase this patch

[lament shuttle]

Ohh

[hollow gorge]

From the 2.0 teaser it seems that Zani is some sort of Light shielder

[lament shuttle]

All we know is she’s got a shield

[hollow gorge]

Well, it's also pretty clearly light, so quite likely she is Spectro

[opaque flume]

My friend says the anims suck so

Sorry guys

I can’t say they are cool now

I must go with the tide

😔

[lament shuttle]

Likely however it’s possible it’s glacio since both of those styles have that color scheme

[opaque flume]

No I think in like 12 days

She reruns

[opaque flume]

I mean look at brant

[limber imp]

Guys are any of the events over

[hollow gorge]

Ehhh, not really. It's yellow-gold

[opaque flume]

What if it’s yellow gold aero

[lament shuttle]

I don’t really care which one it is in the end

[hollow gorge]

Well, yeah, the guy is a mess. But he is male in harem gacha, so that's expected

[hollow gorge]

Yeah, Zani Jiyan main 5* buffer please. Simps will riot

[opaque flume]

Brant is cool

[rotund drum]

male 5*

[limber imp]

Yeah but purple fire existed in the game for a while now

[rotund drum]

male 4* support would have been fine

[limber imp]

The former general guy

[rotund drum]

yuanwu is ok since i dont have to look at him

[hollow gorge]

Not enough Kaeya in him to be cool, tbh

[opaque flume]

Completely different characters

https://tenor.com/view/144x144catgif-gif-8199854347018114408

[rotund drum]

jiyan?

[hollow gorge]

Wdym, both are clowns

[rotund drum]

jiyan banner nearly killed wuwa before it even started

yinlin saved it

[limber imp]

No before him

[opaque flume]

Bro I keep saying you gotta talk in tcl

I need to see you there bro

[limber imp]

The guy that like fought the threnodian or smth

He had purple fire

He used to be general

He has a black fit

White hair

And black bead necklace

[hollow gorge]

Yes, Geshu Lin. Amen

[limber imp]

Yeah him

He has purple fire

[lament shuttle]

Looking at their kits, those multipliers look.. bad ?

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/phoebe-wuthering-waves-phoebe-wuwa-wuwa-wuthering-gif-17427240854026907269

[rotund drum]

i barely even play genshit anymore so i dont have anything to complain about really

[shut isle]

Should I build any of the chars (mortefi and below) for ToA

[lament shuttle]

Who are your carries

Hard to tell otherwise

[rotund drum]

sanhua if you have CMLY and dont plan to get RCA

[shut isle]

carlotta and havoc rover

3 chars u cant see above are carlotta zz and verina

[rotund drum]

you're probably screwed for TOA i think

maybe build danjin and get RCA

or just wait for reruns/powercreep

[lament shuttle]

Hmm

AFAIK mortefi is tied to jiyan

[rotund drum]

theres only like 3 good mdps in this game atm, 4 if you count copeli yao for electro weak content

maybe you can build mdps RCA

[lament shuttle]

The brat is good iirc as a coordinated attacker/healer hybrid but still worse than 5* healers but prob worth building

To be fair you can complete all content with basic non gacha units

[rotund drum]

whos the brat

youhu?

she doesnt have a coordinated attack iirc

she mostly just healbuffs zhezhi comps

you can build her and put her on CLT/ZZ comp and use VRN for the other comp

and give up on center tower in TOA since that's not likely to happen with your current teams anyway

most nonwhales werent touching it in 1.0 either

[lament shuttle]

I didn’t hit 30 till jinhsi

https://youtu.be/F1VXQBqjKPM?si=37QfJfPE4Hbgh_nj but it’s doable still today without any 5* exclusives

[rotund drum]

those are hyperinvest memeteams

where you just dump all your rsc into 4*s

its like the people clearing shiyu with billy in 1.0 by using all their gems on refreshing resin instead of pulling

[lament shuttle]

She buffs it so good for any team with zz or yinlin

[lament shuttle]

Are you pulling for Jinhsi or any other characters soon

Idk about new ones how they fit so I can’t help there

[shut isle]

not particularly. was just gonna save for zani.
lowkey do kinda want jiyan if he ever reruns

[lament shuttle]

Hmm I’d say like havoc mc + sanhua can do good on one side

[shut isle]

yeah thats what ive been doing currently. at 21 stars atm

[lament shuttle]

The rest idk if I’d spend resources building them till we find out if the new 5*a have good synergies with rn

[lament shuttle]

12-0-9?

[shut isle]

i think its 9-0-12

[lament shuttle]

The “cheese” to toa with only 2 teams is to have lvl 70-80 characters deal with floor 1-3 on left and right side

You could build chixia to handle that

She can use carlottas gun

[shut isle]

yeah. thats why i was wondering if i should bulid any of the lvl 1 units i have

to clear the low lvl floors

[lament shuttle]

Ya chixia good for this esp since you have a reusable gun

[lament shuttle]

There’s a 3 cost gauntlet you should save too that provides healing when attacking

Good to put on jianxin with 5pc healing set

She can prob turtle + group up mobs and then it’s easier to clean up

[shut isle]

yeah my chixia is S3

guess ill lvl her up

[lament shuttle]

👍

[limber imp]

What does Brant’s sig do?

[neat robin]

Fuck phoebes attacks do look good
I dont want her 😔
I’m gonna end up getting her this is how it goes

[shut isle]

4pc molten rift or is a 2pc2pc okay

[neat robin]

Everyone I dont like the appearance of has good attacks and I pull them anyways

[lament shuttle]

You lose >10% not being 5pc but if it’s lower floors idt you need it

I’d go with whatever has double crit on it + nm inferno rider

[shut isle]

oh yeah inferno rider has a nightmare now

[neat robin]

Normal rider for basic dmg
Nightmare for skill dmg

[shut isle]

would it still be okay to use the normal one since im just building chixia for lower floors

[neat robin]

If you already have a good one

You lose.. 12% skill? Both have fusion buff

[lament shuttle]

Use whatever you have already

With good subs

Crit subs are like 6% dmg each assuming 1:2 ratio so they’re better than full sets in a lot of cases

[neat robin]

Some chars can prob cope with 2 ele% 2 frosty for skill%

Or 2 tunes 2 frosty

[lament shuttle]

Echo wise ppl who pulled Carlotta and farmed her tacet field prob want to build either spectro rover or phoebe too

[neat robin]

Ive kept anything onset spectro% and atk 1 costs
Even though original plan is ignoring phoebe

[lament shuttle]

Well maybe spectro rover is worth it now

Idk how the math works out with the new set

[neat robin]

Kuro cooks with attack anims

Phoebe ‘mirrors’ look cool af

[shut isle]

3 cost pieces are pretty whatever but what I managed to scrape together for now

[hollow gorge]

Her idles are also super cute

[neat robin]

I like the wings thing
Looks fun to run around with

[shut isle]

how many chars would i have to build for this

would just chixia and like jianxin or something be enough

[lament shuttle]

1/3 takes like 6 stam on each side

So you need 2 teams of shitters

[lament shuttle]

Jianxin doesn’t do dmg xd she’s a grouper that you can put heal set on if you have the gauntlet that heals

[lucid pebble]

Is Rover the only spectro with the razzle dazzle mechanic right now?

[lament shuttle]

Your 2nd best bet would be Danjin or yaoyao I think but I’m not too sure

[opaque flume]

No one in tcl does

[lament shuttle]

I think so till we get phoebe

[lucid pebble]

Imagine releasing a set that only works with one character.

Still, sets precedent that Kuro is willing to adjust older kits.

[neat robin]

Theres a lot of sets that are only for one char

Or like the 1.x glacio. No chars

[hallow kestrel]

Who here has got a link to the official discord?

[rotund drum]

the 1.0 cryo set is supposed to be for midyang i think

its actually one of the better ones iirc

iirc the electro one is the one that sucks since it requires you to actually do both types of attacks

the cryo one just needs you to attack a few times

[neat robin]

Its not he uses atk set

[quasi sable]

That's actually crazy

[dusty crown]

is there a community somewhere that TCs to the same level people TC about genshin here

like overall team DPS

prydwen only has single char DPS over their DPS window if i understood correctly

like i'm curious about camellya + roccia vs camellya + sanhua

[rotund drum]

there might be a wuwa discord but im not sure anyone cares enough

there might be a jstern or tectone kinda guy who does vids or sheets but idk if there's gonna be anything like KQM library where people just put stuff up

[lament shuttle]

https://www.youtube.com/@Maygi this youtuber puts calcs out and shes pretty consistent

idt the ycover leaks tho so uhh

[neat robin]

Id like this too
Like whoever shared the xy + yinlin dps when its void/moonlit/empyreal yinlin

[lament shuttle]

the youtuber i just linked above most recent vid is o nthat

[lucid pebble]

I mean, wuwa is not a spreadsheet game.

Enemies aren’t static punching dummies.

[rotund drum]

depends on the team obv

i dont remember the last time i dodged with CLT or CMLY

or JH for that matter

[dusty crown]

thanks will check

[neat robin]

No but its nice to see how much different teammates / sets are affecting damage

[dusty crown]

i'm aware

especially with rinascita's fast moving mobs

they also seem to knock out my camellya far more easily 😭

(skill issue thanks)

[languid summit]

This person gets it.

But Maygi is a good resource for those that want that info.

[lament shuttle]

I mean calcs are still possible

[languid summit]

Yeah they are.

You can mostly translate what works and what doesn't just by play testing.

Maygi is good because she typically puts it into a 2 minute DPS window.

So performance within the 3 Dorito range.

[dusty crown]

i am in a situation where i probably want kartetixya or whatever her name is and phrolova

but roccia is precious

and i finally saved and can buy a const so i'm contemplating going for carlotta's s1 and then buying her s2

[languid summit]

I think a few of us have her S2/3 here.

[dusty crown]

but then we'll probably get skeeper sooner than later and with how these enemies move i always end up outside her dome, or just having to dodge makes it impossible to do her big intro in time 😭 so her s1/s2 is also tempting

[languid summit]

Sounds like you're going to need a line of credit to keep playing.

[iron wadi]

the sentry construct is pretty wacko

always flying off to the other side of the planet whenever u do reso liberation on sk

[dusty crown]

i already used 50% of my non-subscription budget allocated to video games for 2025 !!!

(thank you hoyo)

[languid summit]

At least it wasn't Genshin, right?

[tawny junco]

What's the set for Carlotta? I haven't gotten to Rinascita yet but I'd like to know so I can focus on that once I do get there

[lyric fjord]

The skill dmg set

Its made for her and only her. Discard any hp, crit dmg or def pieces you find

[tawny junco]

No crit dmg?

[lyric fjord]

She wants crit rate. Unless you are using static mist i guess

[tawny junco]

Oh nah I did pull her weapon today

So much grinding

[lyric fjord]

Gg

[tawny junco]

Can you get CR main stat on anything btw? Or is it cost related, I just started last week and haven't really looked up a lot but it seems like it only shows up on 4 cost

[knotty fiber]

You can get crit main on cost 4 echoes

Which are obtainable from overlords and calamities

[lyric fjord]

Cr and cdmg main stat only on 4 costs
%ele dmg only on 3 costs (or ER or atk or def or hp)
Hp or atk or def on 1 costs

[knotty fiber]

Cost 3 has everything cost 1 has plus elemental dmg bonus, healing bonus and energy regen

Cost 1 has only atk def hp

[lyric fjord]

No healing bonus on 3 costs @knotty fiber

[knotty fiber]

Oh

Yeah

I forgor what else

[tawny junco]

Okay that's about what I thought

[dusty crown]

(it was)

(aka me buying all the top ups with double bonus)

[neat robin]

Everything can have atk%/def%/hp%
4 cost includes cr cdmg heal
3 cost includes elemental% and energy

[languid summit]

[languid summit]

Oh nice you got her?

[tawny junco]

Yuh after losing to shitty Yangling (early thank god) I also got Carlotta somewhat early

Iirc 30 pity 50/50 loss > 40 pity Carlotta > 70 pity weapon

[languid summit]

Very nice.

[neat robin]

Yangling

[tawny junco]

Now I'll try to get Zhezhi I guess, but I don't want to burn myself out on rushing everything

[tawny junco]

I got him twice in 1 day I was not happy

Not even a waifu smh

[neat robin]

Lingyang

[tawny junco]

Oh that's his name lmao

[neat robin]

I was wondering if you spelled it backwards on purpose lol

[tawny junco]

No actually

I have a hard time remembering his name for some reason

Even tho it's easy

[languid summit]

That's a problem with this game for sure. They don't give you any banners off.

I've pulled and built a character every banner (and 2 this banner).

[tawny junco]

That's some crazy whaling

Surely

[languid summit]

Well every banner since Shorekeeper's since that's when I started.

[tawny junco]

I want Shorekeeper so bad

[languid summit]

Honestly? Not really.

[tawny junco]

Shorekeeper and Changli

[languid summit]

I haven't spent that much at all.

[neat robin]

They give enough pulls you can get a lot of chars

[lament shuttle]

The game gives a lot of pulls

[tawny junco]

Exploration very important yeh?

[neat robin]

Ignoring my spending for wavebands
Just buying the login pass ive had almost every char s0

[lament shuttle]

I think f2p might lose 50:50s and miss a few rate ups but generally you can get a 5* per patch right

[languid summit]

I did spend on this banner because Carlotta is ridiculous and I wanted S3.

But I got one of the sequences from corals.

[tawny junco]

I'm definitely not spending, at least not for a while

[languid summit]

Which is such a nice quality of life.

[tawny junco]

Want to make sure I stick with the game before I spend anything

[neat robin]

Same. Got s0, spent for s2, coral for s3

[languid summit]

I've got 80 pulls for Jinhsi so far.

[tawny junco]

Is s3 that important? I felt like when I saw at least some 4* sequences they didn't feel as important as cons do in Genshin

[lament shuttle]

This game also gave us

Free 5* electro

Guaranteed weapon banners

Pick a 5* standard too

[languid summit]

S3 isn't necessary, no.

[neat robin]

Carlotta s3?
Yeah its her biggest jump from s2->3 except s5->6

But basically every 5* dps can clear tower at s0

[lament shuttle]

But you don’t need any cons for end game right now

[languid summit]

They don't create a problem in their kits and sell the solution at C1 like Genshin does.

[tawny junco]

[tawny junco]

I have really started hating this

Chiori being the biggest offender to me, since I need c1 to put her with Navia and I don't want to pull for c1 so I just skip her completely

[languid summit]

This game has shone the brightest of lights on Genshin for me.

[neat robin]

(And now navia wants xilo not chiori)

Rip people who pulled c1

[languid summit]

Sequences in this game are mostly just little power boosts that make them feel stronger than base. That's how it should be.

[tawny junco]

Yeah but Xilo is now stuck in other teams so I would maybe still use Chiori with Navia if I had Chiori

[neat robin]

Wait

I just watched brants full attack anims

[tawny junco]

Good to know I don't have to feel forced to go for any

[neat robin]

Why is he giving camy

[languid summit]

Lol.

That's been a common response about his kit.

I like Phoebe's animations so far.

[neat robin]

Ngl

Give phoebe the invisible rectifier skin

[rotund drum]

that circle is like two inches wide

[neat robin]

So she just has her cane

[rotund drum]

i guess it isnt hard for her to move it though

literally anything that moves is going to be CMLYgate 2.0 though

even yuanwu's field already feels too small and its like 3x as big as that circle

[robust axle]

Close enough, welcome back lux

2.1 seems to be league of legends update

Lux and gangplank

[languid summit]

They probably know the crossover is real.

[neat robin]

I’m so looking forward to future chars

Carlottas glass ice

Brant purple fire

Glad to see they dont force one colour for the entire element

[lament shuttle]

Survey asked us if we want new weapon types

I put bows scythes spears

[lyric fjord]

Are you willing to pull multiple new weapon types even though they can make weapons fit in the existing 5? I'm not.

[rotund drum]

i just wrote gunblades

i dont think they actually gave me anything though

literally a scam

[neat robin]

Tf is this game character thing

Do we basically pick a char and try to describe them with the model & behavior & colours?

[neat robin]

No same. Different chars can use whatever weapon and its just classified as one of the 5

Like jiyan using spear

One of these questions is legit just ‘is a furry ok’

[lament shuttle]

Plant and furry I said 0

[lyric fjord]

Im fine with wood, but camellyas plant whips are not my cup of tea

[neat robin]

Just a few spectro/atk% 3costs

And got rid of her 1cost that had a cr sub

Though I need a cdmg fallacy if I get her sig

[lyric fjord]

"Dmg dealt is amplified by 160%" means x2.6 or x1.6?

Oh its x2.6, nice

Phoebe has nice mvs then

[lilac hare]

How is brant looking? I don’t have changli

[rotund drum]

typical male 5* i think

[lyric fjord]

He meant meta wise i think...

[lucid pebble]

Typical male 5* I think

I’m glad they added more rewards for parrying certain enemies in addition to getting a chunk of stability break.

[blissful tulip]

Unfortunately in most cases you'd end up killing the enemy prior, but 2.0 has been an all-round improvement in enemy design as well

Only problem being the giant stuffed bear's Iframes

[neon falcon]

https://vxtwitter.com/Legend0777/status/1877716121136279565

[lucid pebble]

[rotund drum]

but will it have actual content

[vapid river]

damn, presets before gta6?

echo storage going from 2k to 3k

[rotund drum]

cant wait to farm 3k echoes

||none of them will be on-element||

[burnt shoal]

woa

omg can havoc rover use this

[rotund drum]

i was in the middle of the msq in genshit when you fight the fatui king or w/e when wuwa came out of maint last week

and i was afraid to quit out cause i didnt know if it was going to make me redo the entire thing if i did

took like 3 hours lmao

[burnt shoal]

ohhh

genshin quests so long now yes

[neat robin]

Hrover wants dreamless

[edgy cobalt]

2.1 units look like whatever
its wuthering saves

phoebe is a maybe but she has to creep jhsi by like 1.5x minimum

[neat robin]

I’m getting her if shes meta
But that might just be waiting til zani drops then taking phoebe rerun

[sweet coral]

No

Cuz they still want Dreamless

[spice finch]

What is an echo loadout?

[vapid river]

i'm imagining you equip all the echoes you want. save it as a preset. then instead of swapping individual echoes back and forth between say camy and hrover, you can just equip that "loadout" or "preset" and all of them get swapped at the same time

or cal and xy

[spice finch]

Okay makes sense. Equipping a 5pc echo itstead of individual. Nice

[vapid river]

any vt set that's good for cal is gonna be good for xy so it's nice to be able to quickly swap between them

honestly not sure why that wasn't just in the game at launch

but i'm not a coder/game dev

[spice finch]

Why genshin can't do that 😅🤣

[vapid river]

maybe that was asking too much of them at launch

does genshin have presets?

it's been ages since i've played

[neat robin]

No

And its annoying af

Onfield and off field builds & different buff sets depending on which team

No loadouts

[burnt monolith]

If anything, I'd argue Genshin needs presets a lot more

Since a lot of the cast of characters we have many build paths

[burnt monolith]

She doesn't need to powercreep Jhinsi to be good imo.

Being on the same level as other characters is fine.

It's not like she's a carbon copy of her anyways. Alternate forms of dealing damage and playstyle is enough to set a character apart.

[spice finch]

Yes agree

[rotund drum]

i need to see phoebe's sig

wuwa gaps you really hard if you dont whale for sigs

4* weapons might as well not exist

[vapid river]

i'd love to see a cc of average skill level beat 2.0 tower with no sigs

even with s0 limiteds

all the ones doing 4* or extremem states of poverty f2p are all cracked at the game

i wanna know it's like for the average gamer in tower rn

has to be a struggle

b/c as much as i would like to say "nah 4* weapons are manageable!" i honestly don't know and personally doubt they're enjoyable at all to use

[lucid pebble]

Shrimply pull sig.

[vapid river]

yeah that's the overwhelming consensus

like

[lucid pebble]

100% guarantee go brrrrrt.

[vapid river]

if my jiyan was doing 30% less dmg

fuckin hell

b/c autumntrace is the bp weapon

it's not f2p

and waning redshift came out in what 1.4?

[cobalt apex]

early 1.x was like sig or bust yea

or u just reset 200 times for a perfect floor

[vapid river]

that's what i'm saying

the vids i've seen of all 4* teams clearing toa

they get hit once, maybe twice per floor

otherwise it's all counters and dodge counters

swap counters

echo counters

it's all very skilled play

[burnt shoal]

how do u solve this

[rotund drum]

its probably bugged

happens a lot

[vapid river]

you know about standing behind these and pulling the pillars towards them right?

if there's stuff in front of the pillars you have to clear the path first

but generally group them all together then mass suck

though it could be bugged and you'll have to relog

[rotund drum]

i had that exact same issue where the puzzle looked unsolvable then it turned out it was bugged and you were supposed to be able to move them

[vapid river]

ye but you have to be standing near one of those raised square platforms to pull a pillar

that's the part that bothers me

like where tf else would i pull it to?

why do i have to stand practically on top of it

[burnt shoal]

i already placed the two pillars together

idk what to do next

[rotund drum]

there should be a yellow energy ball somewhere

you need to pick it up in stand mode then hold E to do an AOE succ

[burnt shoal]

it's not getting everything

[vapid river]

[burnt shoal]

i tried finding a spot where it would get all 4 red things

[rotund drum]

you need to move them closer then

[vapid river]

it's usually 3 or 4 pillars

[burnt shoal]

but there's none

only 3 max

[rotund drum]

its probably bugged then

try relogging

[vapid river]

then it's probably bugged

[neat robin]

Is that the one

Check down the staircase

[rotund drum]

also iirc if one cloud has fewer orbs than the others

[vapid river]

OH

[rotund drum]

you can succ that one individually and it'll stay succed

[neat robin]

I got stuck on one for a while cuz the 4th pillar was way down at the bottom of stairs

[vapid river]

IS IT THE ONE WITH THE STAIRS?

fuck i couldn't find the spot to pull that one up

for longer than i'd like to admit

i was jumping from on top of the pillars

flying down trying to get it

[rotund drum]

its funny that the puzzle designs in this game are so shit that everyone just assumes they're all bugged

[vapid river]

no idt that's the one

[vapid river]

that's just you that i've seen

[rotund drum]

you were there when it actually bugged iirc

[vapid river]

i've personally had no bugs for any of the quests

or puzzles

you the unlucky one

[neat robin]

Drag the empty pillar away from the middle. And bring the red pillar in close

[burnt shoal]

move 1 pixel to the left and it gets the left red spot but stops picking up the right spot

[burnt shoal]

how do i drag away a pillar

i don't see any more open spots

[neat robin]

That first photo you sent had a clean pillar. Get it out of the way if you havent already

[vapid river]

you need to fuck off that middle pillar

it's not being affected by anything

no?

[burnt shoal]

ohh that was a spot?

i go check it again

[neat robin]

One sec I’ll go look at mine

[rotund drum]

i remember thinking this puzzle was bugged too cause its literally unsolvable

[neat robin]

Have you put

[rotund drum]

turns out those "green" squares at the bottom are actually blue

[neat robin]

In any survey

You need colourblind options

[rotund drum]

i dont think its just a me problem but they dont read those surveys anyway

[burnt shoal]

ok thanks it works now

[rotund drum]

i just ticked random boxes for the last one and said my favorite character was oskar from atelier ryza

got my 60 primogems

[burnt shoal]

so many echoes

i decided to select all hp% def% from a 1.0 set to batch 100

rip need the 3000 echo inventory soon

have been capped since 1.4

only reducing it bit by bit everytime i get more

[rotund drum]

ive been batching all the hp and def ones by default

all the atk 4-costs too

there's only like one char who needs def and one who needs hp iirc and they're both bad so you probably wont care

any future 5* who scales off hp or def will probably have her own set anyway

[vapid river]

it's not

[burnt shoal]

ohhh i see

[vapid river]

you turn the green yellow, then the yellow red, then the red blue

it takes 3 turns

how you got it to 5 is beyond imaginable

[rotund drum]

the green ones at the bottom are supposed to be blue i think

[vapid river]

the "green" ones at the bottom ARE BLUE

[rotund drum]

they are blue but they look green

[burnt shoal]

are you guys also spamming this food in the overworld when u grind

[vapid river]

they're just light blue. the overall image goes from dark to light blue

weird they did it like that

but it's still blue

though i'm not at all colorblind

[rotund drum]

anyway its not actually "bugged", its just a really shitty color scheme

[vapid river]

so i can see it just fine

[vapid river]

not a chance

i'll build pity or deal with low rates

i think that food is a scam

[rotund drum]

that food is way too expensive and doesnt make enough of a diff

also speedgrinding for 30 minutes is effort

[burnt shoal]

ohhh

[rotund drum]

its +50% of base which is only 20%