yeah I got greedy and lucky, 2 liners being pure crit rolls isn't good to me anymore
#・wuwa-lounge
edgy cobalt
edgy cobalt
I only did the 3 cost route I just auto track it
I got my godly 4 cost rolls on my 5th try 💀 and I naturally got my 1 costs while exploring
winged belfry
And link to route? On map or on video?
edgy cobalt
the game can track it for you that's what I did
go to data bank go to the 3 cost you wanna farm and when you kill the echo it tracks the next one until there's no more
edgy cobalt
gives you a code to redeem 30 astrites and some mats
just like those giveaway codes some ccs gave out one time
winged belfry
I got my godly 4 cost rolls on my 5th try 💀 and I naturally got my 1 costs whil...
My 3rd try. I don't think I'm getting anything better than that for months
edgy cobalt
see I would keep it because its a 4 liner but the crit rolls are depressing
can be a good idea to see where the other echoes will take you and then decide what to do afterwards but most ppl would be happy for a 4cost like yours
winged belfry
Yeah, but it'll take months to get better one. So in the meantime I'll focused on nightmare variant so other echoes. Camellya needs her Crownless. That 4 liner for Carlotta is perfectly works for my needs
vapid river
I have to ask if you're using that one method for rolling subs 
/j
She's looking monstrous though
shut isle
I have to ask if you're using that one method for rolling subs <:PepeLa:90032096...
what method
vapid river
.>
It's kind of a pain to explain
But basically level an echo to like 15 or 20
Wait till it's xx:x7 on your clock
And then at the 0, 15, 30, 45 second marks you want to tune it
It gets even deeper by trying to hit at certain tenths of a second
edgy cobalt
I have to ask if you're using that one method for rolling subs <:PepeLa:90032096...
nope I completely ditched that
vapid river
what method
Some nerds thought they found a pattern to when the game gives you sub stats
Like it's tied to the clock
winged belfry
WTF
Is not pokemon
While yes, functions that are tied to randomness are sometimes tied to clock
It's usually done in a different maner
You take clock as input, then hash it, then use hash a seed for pseudo RNG function
neat robin
What site is this ?
winged belfry
What site is this ?
It's in top rights corner
neat robin
Ok its done manually
Which ig makes sense no char showoff like what enka uses
burnt shoal
pain game needs 75% for book puzzle
hollow gorge
Never getting that
hollow gorge
pain game needs 75% for book puzzle
Tbh, the reqs are insane to have 95% for achieve on all books. Like I got 93% once. I guess mobile users get shafted once again
neat robin
No
Ive had 100% on two of the puzzles at least
You can follow the gold line for like half the time anyways then just check for landmarks to change direction at
cobalt apex
almost all of mine so far go more than 95%
lyric fjord
There are some bugs sometimes though
Had to redo one once because it gave me 35% despite following the track. Got 100% after doing the same thing 2 min later
neon falcon
who is zhezhi good for other than jinshi/carlotta? 
cobalt apex
@knotty fiber oh yea i just remembered why i have basically no limited chars its because i lost 50/50 on every limited i did
im 0-3 rn
cobalt apex
<:E_pepelol:792804369749377024>
every single one of them hit soft pity too
so im at 370 pulls spent and 2 limited chars owned
knotty fiber
That hurts
rotund drum
they'll probably nerf zhezhi soon anyway
i doubt they were planning as far ahead as carlotta when they gave her two different amps that stacked on her
vapid river
who is zhezhi good for other than jinshi/carlotta? <:A_HmmTao:791093641565306888...
pretty much just jinhsi and carlotta
an argument could be made for lingyang
but he's a waste
neon falcon
outer jetty
cobalt apex
lmfao
vapid river
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1069079762850566206/1326225362098720820...
ain't no way
knotty fiber
I told you
She's so short she uses a midget animation
Verina's, Encore's, Youhu's
cobalt apex
this is so funny
rotund drum
idgi
neat robin
Is that how you’re supposed to get into that spot?
vapid river
no
iirc it's the cirlce maze
when you're playing with the guy in the middle, you set your piece in a spot
and it's a hidden-ish area in one of those rooms
you drop down
winged belfry
they'll probably nerf zhezhi soon anyway
WTF do you mean nerf Zhezhi?
At this point Zhezhi is unit that's by far in highest demand
Because she has no replacement whatsoever
2nd best option for Carlotta is Yangyang
And that's a bit cringe
2nd best unit for Jinhsi is Yuanwu, who's beyond cringe
rotund drum
sounds like ag ood reason to nerf to me
vapid river
2nd best unit for Jinhsi is Yuanwu, who's beyond cringe
i'd much prefer using yinlin over yuanwu
binwu
winged belfry
i'd much prefer using yinlin over yuanwu
Yinlin has long field time requirements
winged belfry
Maybe it's the same, but Yinlin feels slow
vapid river
she does
her animation is a bit much
it's good that the timer in tower is paused during it
rotund drum
youhu's ult animation is also way too long
rotund drum
im already alt-tabbing during CMLY's ult animation and youhu's is like twice as long
vapid river
that's why i don't use yuhu
she feels bad to play
same with lumi
sadly
i liked yumi
but that gameplay isn't worth using
neat robin
Missing one cr sub & its on a glacio 3cost.. can I find an atk main anywhere tho? Apparently not
lament shuttle
Missing one cr sub & its on a glacio 3cost.. can I find an atk main anywhere tho...
I heard atk and glacio is sub1% diff
neat robin
Id prefer atk
She gains like 100% more skill dmg in fight
This isnt even at 2k atk cuz I dont have atk% subs to cover for it
rotund drum
I heard atk and glacio is sub1% diff
for whales maybe
sig is like +50% damage
its the same sitch as jinhsi where she gets like +80% damage from c1 on top of a bunch more from her sig
except CLT doesnt need s1
lament shuttle
for whales maybe
According to prydwen it’s not that diff
lament shuttle
yeah thats with sig
Sig would make atk much better but it’s still within a single percent so it’s kinda minimal
And idk if sig is whale territory in this game considering it’s guaranteed weapon banner
rotund drum
atk isnt really worth without her sig i think
+50% more damage bonus is a pretty big increase but she already gets a ton of dmg bonus and the standard gun actually has higher base atk
albeit less substat value
but base atk makes a big diff in this game since the stat diff is so huge
rotund drum
i didnt mind spending on JH's sig as much since all the 4* and standard 5* suck but there's already a crit 5* gun
albeit the passive kinda sucks
rotund drum
well her sig's gotta be better for her than a standard lol
although its not a very good general use sig either
if i were a nonwhale i'd probably prefer to save for a crit fist or catalyst
or broadsword
edgy cobalt
it should be bis for chix
most of the sigs is basically 48% specific dmg buff to the desired char along with a crit main stat so far
rotund drum
tbf getting JH's sig as a "general use" statstick broadblade hasnt really paid off either
given that we got exactly 1 broadblade DPS in 1.X
one real one i mean
calc/jiyan dont count
neat robin
Why jiyan doesnt count cuz its actual dps and not zero to a hundred like jinhsi skill nuke?
rotund drum
just in terms of overall powerlevel
technically fists got xiangli yao so the only weapon type that needs dps representation is catalyst i think
after that kusogames can do a midhoyo and just make every char the same weapon type
4 anomalies in a row lmao
edgy cobalt
I like how roccia trial used xly sig
neat robin
just in terms of overall powerlevel
Literally everyone except jinhsi in 1.0 were roughly same dps at s0
rotund drum
yeah JH set the new standard
placid holly
i get within 1% for her liberation between glacio/atk and 2glacio with static mist too
my numbers roughly match aznvasion's sheet though he doesn't seem to ever get two stacks of 4pc frosty
and his defensive multiplier formula is a bit too fixed for my tastes
neat robin
I have sig not mist
placid holly
i mean i do too
neat robin
Ik but comparing atk vs glacio when sig gives dmg% isnt really as accurate
placid holly
this is glacio/atk with static mist vs glacio/glacio with static mist
neat robin
Yes the question is atk-ele vs ele-ele , with sig
placid holly
my impression was that was a solved question and whether or not the same idea extended to non-sig weapons
neat robin
I’m not looking at mist builds
It depends on the char & the weapon
Some want ele-ele on standards, a lot want atk-ele only if sig
Some want ele-ele even with sig
The thing is most sigs give huge dmg%
So it pushes those to want atk-ele
placid holly
yes, i'm aware
given that i built the damage calculator i used above
neat robin
These are all also very close numbers at s0 chars if I have an s3r1 carlotta I’m not looking for more dmg% from echo mains
I’ll roll if I find one
placid holly
sure by virtue of the am-gm inequality
neat robin
But ive had 4 glacio 0 atk 3costs in.. 5 days shes been out?
winged belfry
These are all also very close numbers at s0 chars if I have an s3r1 carlotta I’m...
I'm pretty sure none of Carlotta sequences up to S3 add any DMG%
edgy cobalt
I had some atk but no double crits
winged belfry
But the again, she already has a metric ton of it via weapon and set
neat robin
Not really
winged belfry
Like 70% from set buff alone
neat robin
S3 bonus outro is atk scaling & adds dmg multipler
winged belfry
40 or 50 from weapon
neat robin
Set buff + sig buff
winged belfry
Yeah, but it's a pure MV
neat robin
My carlotta likes leaving skeepers field
Id like an atk buffer for carla (also lets me keep sk with xy or camy)
winged belfry
So as long as it takes the same buffs, it doesn't changes what you want
neat robin
S4 adds skill% which I’ll prob get on rerun
winged belfry
Technically outro becomes a mini nuke that's isn't considered a skill DMG
neat robin
I just wanna see new chars before I go all in for s6 carla lol
winged belfry
So general Glacio might be slight more beneficial
neat robin
See. If I had atk subs maybe
winged belfry
Does S6 even changes her rotation or something
neat robin
I have uh . 1 atk% sub
And 55 skill%
neat robin
Shes not even at 2k atk
winged belfry
But mine is on 2pc Glacio 2pc ATK
Because I don't have any good 3 cost or 1 cost of new set
neat robin
Unless i hyperfocus carla to build 2.3k atk on double ele like I did with jiyan 
neat robin
I need to cook more echo dish to go kill more bears
neat robin
I ran out of all the abyssal ones
I killed both types & the knights and got 1 single glacio no atk mains
winged belfry
Do bears even drop new set?
neat robin
The teddy bears
winged belfry
Oh these teddies
neat robin
Site isnt mobile friendly this is what shes got rn
winged belfry
Bear implies it's an animal one
winged belfry
Site isnt mobile friendly this is what shes got rn
Just use PC
neat robin
Ah yes the pc I dont have
lament shuttle
Tbh I wouldn’t fuss over the atk/ele
Just take whatever rolls better atk and crit 2x
winged belfry
Ah yes the pc I dont have
How are you playing WuWa on mobile?
neat robin
ipad
placid holly
Just take whatever rolls better atk and crit 2x
this is correct
winged belfry
It cannot be comfortable, unless you also have controller
vapid river
Yes theres a reason I’m looking for an atk main
haven't you explained why you want an atk% 3 cost like two or three times already?
neat robin
Its fine I’m not getting these sub 60s tower runs but ive got 30* down for many rots now
placid holly
a high roll on just one of the substats will outperform the difference
neat robin
It cannot be comfortable, unless you also have controller
I play everything on mobile its fine
placid holly
like 2% more crit damage
neat robin
haven't you explained why you want an atk% 3 cost like two or three times alread...
If I had double crit + atk% subs on every piece I could be less picky
I need to rebuild yinlin though
Which sucks ass, I cant give her set to anyone else
Well the heron & 1s ig
Cant use the electro% on anyone unless I want moonlit yuanwu which. Ew
vapid river
just uhh
hold onto them ig?
just put them on yuanwu without any expectation to use yuanwu
neat robin
I did this one with xy / carla / camy teams
Lemme tell you camy vs aix, without sk
Terrible
neat robin
I used carla in middle
vapid river
this is why jiyan is the goat
he performs well even with mort and verina
leaving my lotta to enjoy the benefits of sk
that and he's always good for at least one fight in middle tower
vapid river
but you wanted to torture yourself with camy vs aix
that fight sounds ass
knowing you have to use sanhua
neat robin
vapid river
does she gain concerto if her skill/liberation don't hit?
neat robin
Not really 😭
neat robin
You need to hit enemy with her detonate
vapid river
that sounds like rng could just tell you nope
do you?
damn
yeah sanhua vs aix sounds awful
neat robin
Thats where her concerto mostly comes from
And I need xy 3cost…
And the mephis, thats gonna take a while
Needs er cr cdmg to replace mech
vapid river
that shouldn't be hard
i'm working on jiyan's monke
which will also need those three things
sadly it has 9.9%cr
though it low rolled cdmg
vapid river
the first day i farmed i got 3 cr main stat to drop since then nothing
neat robin
Stam for carla field
Nm thundering for bosses (then hecate for yinlin)
Overworld carla & xy 3cost
neat robin
i think i'll hold off on switching yinlin for now
Switching xy before I start on yinlin
But keeping all cdmg hecate & electro% empyreal echos I find
lyric fjord
Did anyone try spectro rover since the update? Does it dish out good dmg now?
rotund drum
isnt it pretty much the same
the new set only works if you can frazzlespam i think
its pretty obvious the new sets are for whatever new 5*s are upcoming too so the next spectro dps will probably be a frazzlespammer
rotund drum
we're already pretty overloaded on glacio
neat robin
She looks more Spectro than Glacio, which is what people say she is
Most likely,
Phoebe spectro dot yet
Brant er=dmg set
placid holly
actually
atk/atk 3-costs looks pretty competitive too.
i get higher death knell damage with r1 tld+team on atk/atk over glacio/glacio
within high roll/low roll crit difference range
pretty close in other setups too except like... static mist solo (no ally buffs)
i need to test if 4pc frosty gets two stacks on death knell casts past the initial cast
neat robin
Huh so atk/ele or 2 atk are both better than 2 ele with sig carla?
placid holly
these are single-instance damage calcs with normalized substats that should apply to the lion's share of carlotta's damage
but due to the presence of skill dmg% buffs the relative rankings will change if you factor in her intro/outro, echo, aerial, and any normal attacks you need
i'd still expect everything to be within ~2% though, which is basically the difference between a high and low crit roll (like 5% crit damage or something).
basically pick the arrangement with the best substats
vapid river
Huh so atk/ele or 2 atk are both better than 2 ele with sig carla?
i hate
how this is useable
neat robin
3/5 at least high rolls
neat robin
Atk% is fine tho
vapid river
ye
neat robin
And better crit on nm
neat robin
Yeah well 2 hp vs 2 def
Same thing
neat robin
I just need a double crit nm crownless so I can go back to ignoring camy
neat robin
I wanna swap xy
Like he cleared tower without electro bonus just fine
But I need moreee
vapid river
missing cdmg
neat robin
Ow
neat robin
Extra ow
I think her regular dreamless (already step down from crownless buffs)
Cr cdmg er .. def hp? I think its only 2 or 3/5 subs
So whatever nm crownless will be fine
vapid river
i do enjoy being able to throw out the nm echoes like they're pokemon though
vapid river
I think her regular dreamless (already step down from crownless buffs)
Cr cdmg e...
ye it's kinda nice when the 4 costs are dogshit and easily replaceable
neon falcon
dayum
neon falcon
she's so tiny 
vapid river
she uses the child animations
or something like that
like jump then dodge in midair
then do it on encore
or verina
then do it on rover
she doesn't backflip like rover
neon falcon
neon falcon
i just saw it too 
edgy cobalt
will be doing it solo lmao
neon falcon
@vapid river 
vapid river
it's probably going to take me like a week
can you do this event yet?
actually no it's not this one
there was one that was giving out like 15k
the milestones
neon falcon
can you do this event yet?
ya
vapid river
neon falcon
oh the missions
vapid river
ye f2 then all the way at the bottom
neon falcon
im stuck in one that needs me to get 6 stars at the new tower i unlocked
idk if i can do that yet
im gonna try
vapid river
ah, good luck
i can't remember how easy/hard those towers were
i was grossly over leveled
well they were easy
but had i done them when i could i probably wouldn't have been able to
dawn willow
Didn't realize I haven't unlocked nightmare tempest and nightmare crownless for the data bank
Time to farm nightmare tempest for XLY then
knotty fiber
@cobalt apex wer ye
knotty fiber
bottom one still somehow doing 1k less than top
cuz you lost cdmg and atk
cdmg and atk are being more effective than dmg bonus with that stat
vapid river
but heavy
knotty fiber
yes
vapid river
so atk is actually more valuable
knotty fiber
and when you reach 300% cdmg, that's when cdmg = those 2
vapid river
yeah i could get maybe an extra 15% cdmg but idk if he'd ever reach 300%
knotty fiber
even with his passive buffing atk and cdmg, dmg bonus is still somehow ~200%
vapid river
if i got max rolls idt it'd even get there
vapid river
ye
knotty fiber
so his atk and cdmg should be somewhat less competitive
vapid river
his heavy gets 25% buff
cr/cdmg go up 16/32
atk goes up 28%
s4 jiyan kinda goated
vapid river
ye
i forget about the 16/32 cr/cdmg boost
so he's over 300% cdmg
and almost 90cr
this is him after just doing a single e
knotty fiber
29.3% heavy
you're at ~100% atk bonus here
201% dmg bonus
168.8% cdmg bonus
+10% atk and +12% cdmg from passives
both still less than dmg bonus
vapid river
both still less than dmg bonus
wdym? from heavy atk%?
vapid river
so then do i even need to worry about heavy atk% atp?
feels moot
feels like i'd be better off hunting atk% subs
vapid river
knotty fiber
yes
that will push your atk and dmg bonus closer to equilibrium
and atk will still be better than both of those
knotty fiber
9% atk + 12.6% cdmg is better than 21% cdmg, just in case
knotty fiber
lmao that's 13% atk
vapid river
knotty fiber
below
vapid river
the car?
knotty fiber
you need some ER%
knotty fiber
you're at the mininum req right now lmao
knotty fiber
loses a bit crate but you are past the cap anyway
vapid river
is insane
makes me want to reroll a 1 cost
replace this one
b/c the other 1 cost has er
knotty fiber
yeah
vapid river
knotty fiber
can expect higher cdmg and atk
high cdmg + whatever crate + ATK% + either heavy or flat atk if possible
vapid river
after skeeper/mort buffs
almost 4k atk
his big nuke just hit 121k in overworld
bonkers
knotty fiber
right I forgor Morty and SK has atk buffs too
but that's fine
you're more likely to get dmg buffs than atk buffs in ToA anyway
knotty fiber
I think with this, dmg bonus is the better one 
with no ToA buff accounted ofc
300% atk boost and 240% cdmg boost
with 215% dmg bonus boost ish I suppose
vapid river
oh yeah, idk if i'll ever go ele/ele ever again on mdps with sig
knotty fiber
I stopped that
vapid river
oh you think i should go for heavy%?
knotty fiber
atk is too scarce
knotty fiber
oh you think i should go for heavy%?
with that stat probably
but most ToA buffs will cancel that
without ToA's big dmg boost then yeah use the aero one
vapid river
i haven't been getting anything good in the 1 cost category
i'll try two more
and then call it for the night
yeah that was not as good
as the 3 cost
vapid river
i feel that
knotty fiber
I spent way too many tuners for her
vapid river
she is kinda worth it
big damage on start of ult
good dmg on the 4 hits
big dmg on the last
like mine can almost 1 turn in tower
with atk% 3 cost she probably will
knotty fiber
I feel salty cuz a certain someone here got a set as good as mine if not better in just 1000 tuners
when I spent 4k
vapid river
ye i try not to worry about how many tuners it cost other people to level echoes
i have shit luck
knotty fiber
I didn't even realize I spent that many tuners
vapid river
yeah that made jiyan even more comfy to play in tower
anyway time for honk shoo
good luck with echoes 
knotty fiber
surely
tawny junco
cobalt apex
<@694499784509358120> wer ye
im here 
winged belfry
Which enemy is efficient to farm for carlotta
Teddy bears are viterum dancers, and abyss gladius and mercator
Teddy bears are better IMHO because they drop polygon drops
And Carlotta uses thrm
While dancers, knights, mercators, gladi, drop tideum- or something
quasi sable
I need pulls too
knotty fiber
quasi sable
Still no sign of carlo
cobalt apex
after i get carlotta sure
cobalt apex
me go farm alone then
ill get her before weekend dw
also can i have tldr carlo build
and has anything changed with changli build since 1.1
knotty fiber
and has anything changed with changli build since 1.1
nothing
cost 4: sentry crate
cost 3: atk glacio
cost 1: usual
sub: crate cdmg > atk > skill dmg > flat atk, the rest is useless
cobalt apex
sweet coral
sub: crate cdmg > atk > skill dmg > flat atk, the rest is useless
A little energy regen is also fine without Zhezhi
neat robin
Time to farm nightmare tempest for XLY then
Dont
Thundering is electro+ lib for yao
Hecate is apparently better for empyreal yinlin than tempest
neat robin
and has anything changed with changli build since 1.1
Pretty sure changli wants nightmare rider instead of normal one, no?
Skill fusion instead of basic fusion?
dapper oar
do they change the wish animations? i used to be able to differ between 5 star pulls and not because of that extra trail on the meteor
neat robin
do they change the wish animations? i used to be able to differ between 5 star p...
No? Are you talking genshin pulls or wuwa
neat robin
The colour change is pretty immediate
dapper oar
there used to be a circling mini light around the center one
neat robin
Maybe its the graphics I had to play on
Never saw anything different
dapper oar
maybe? because i do play in a way better graphics now
but it's kinda weird that it affects the wishing animation
because now it's harder for me to tell early
neat robin
Special & visual effects will change things
One of my other games has insane difference on the pull animation on low vs high settings
molten hazel
Is Zhezhi signature a must or the 5* standard is good?
blissful tulip
Unless you want to use Zhezhi as a main DPS, standard is usually more than good enough for its intended role
Roccia and Changli may be exceptions due to their higher multipliers as sub dpses
dawn willow
Dont
Thundering is electro+ lib for yao
Hecate is apparently better for empyreal...
Oooh I see, I don't have Yinlin (but have 2 dupes of her weapon, funnily enough), maybe in the future gonna get her if there's no other XLY support in the future
Oh yeah, any tips for S0R1 Camellya build? I think I have the havoc weekly boss as her main echo
Oh right, just remembered saw there's a code earlier
Twitter
neat robin
Oooh I see, I don't have Yinlin (but have 2 dupes of her weapon, funnily enough)...
Havoc set, nightmare crownless
Atk ele 3costs
Lost 21 cdmg & was still almost equivlant
I’m so annoyed that bear didnt get even a 12% cdmg sub
Had cr atk% atk subs
neat robin
holy shit i need to switch
this has s3 & the middle tower buffs
Also when yall do this palette challenge theres a glowing blue butterfly ontop of this log
Hidden achievement
vapid river
this has s3 & the middle tower buffs
maybe i should push for s3
i have enough for a waveplate
i could hope to get lucky on another 50
surely
spice finch
What reso chain is this?
neat robin
maybe i should push for s3
I got encore at 20 pity seeing if I could get an early s4 
neat robin
What reso chain is this?
S3r1
spice finch
Crate echo4?
spice finch
Me who still doesnt have her but guaranteed
No primo to pull. Will wait until last day to decide if i will top up 🤣
vapid river
also i'm going to guess ninjy has cr 4 cost
if not that lotta would be over 300% cdmg
neat robin
Cr 4cost yeah
Technicallyyyy s1 + sk is 25 extra cr if I could get like
55 cr on paper
I wont be refarming sentry though til I get xy nm thundering done
vapid river
good luck
neat robin
Tf they need to stop doing this without being skins we can use 
vapid river
nice
neat robin
Brant & phoebe
vapid river
praying i don't need them
neat robin
Sk sig
spice finch
Brant & phoebe
Woooooah
neat robin
Then zani
vapid river
well i won't be pulling brant
i have no fusion that would even work with him
regardless of how his kit is
spice finch
I want dps from each element. So far I only have xy, camellya, and carlotta (soon)
spice finch
For me, i dont like jihnsi and jiyan playstyle
So waiting for other dps of that element
neat robin
Ngl jiyan and camy are very similar
Set up then hold basic
I need brant to be changli team so I can ignore him
If his ‘support’ ends up being like. Atk buff? Idk
vapid river
neon falcon
neat robin
Ive had two and both had atk% and one crit sub then turned to shit
lilac hare
neat robin
Always keep atk & onset ele 3costs
neat robin
Sig + echo set give so much dmg%
Until we get an atk buffer most chars with sig will want atk/ele
spice finch
I use elem/elem akways 😅
neat robin
Its not end of the world
neon falcon
what's the wuwa pull tracker everyone uses?
neat robin
Google sheets, manually
neon falcon
cobalt apex
peak
vapid river
what's the wuwa pull tracker everyone uses?
wuwatracker
neon falcon
thanks
lyric fjord
i just noticed, why does nightmare mourning aix only give 12% spectro dmg as passive? other nightmares give 12 + 12 no?
knotty fiber
Normally it doesn't matter much (to some people)
But it has always been the case for dps that atk ele gives the closest result to equilibrium
To me it does
neat robin
More dmg good
spice finch
Whats zhezhi echo and weapon to support carotta?
neat robin
Whats zhezhi echo and weapon to support carotta?
5* standard/string/her sig with moonlit + (normal) heron
edgy cobalt
yes
hollow gorge
Feels blasphemous deleting 30+ CV echoes
Surely there will never be HA fire damage user
lyric fjord
:O
knotty fiber
just her drip
quasi sable
https://x.com/WW_JP_Official/status/1877188545988771936
this splash art is kinda fire ngl
burnt shoal
is she 2.1?
neon falcon
most likely SK rerun
yeah i think im saving my guarantee for her
shut isle
i want SK so bad
neon falcon
shut isle
neon falcon
she's so peak
vapid river
roccia kinda moot
everyone already used to using free s6 sanhua
why bother replacing for camy when camy already shits on everything?
i have a feeling the people pulling for roccia, other than whales, are going to be people who like her design and that's it
fringe case would be idiots
b/c there's 0 reason to pull her
winged belfry
I'm pretty sure Roccia is a designed ahead of the DPS she's supposed to buff
winged belfry
Yeah, I'm mostly thinking about this
winged belfry
it might have synergy with Hecate
vapid river
that helps everyone
but this
is catered to camy
for them to release another basic/havoc mdps after her
would be insane
not that it's not out of the realm of possibilities
it'd just be such a weird move by kuro to do it
winged belfry
I mean she also buffs ATK, which is pretty rare as far buffs go
vapid river
I'm pretty sure Roccia is a designed ahead of the DPS she's supposed to buff
and though you say this jiyan doesn't have a heavy/aero specific buffer and jinhsi also doesn't have a res skill/spectro buffer
almost all of the 4* currently used in comps give atk% at s6
20%
it's not really that rare
winged belfry
Jinhsi would much rather have her support be of different element
We've already been though this
vapid river
just have an actual support, like verina, that gives teamwide res skill and spectro
and keep yinlin/zz as your sdps
the sdps doesn't have to be the one to give the buff
the sdps can stay the coord
winged belfry
Verina/sk buffs whole team
vapid river
but not spectro and res skill
zz and roccia are both specifically designed to buff one type of unit
can their buffs work elsewhere? sure
but they both are far more effective on lotta and camy teams
that's my whole point
if they're going to make sdps that buff like that then wouldn't it make sense for other mdps to get the same treatment?
and again, it doesn't have to be sdps, it could be a whole new support character that does it for jinhsi or jiyan
winged belfry
Eventually
winged belfry
At this point only main DPS without dedicated 5 star support is Jiyan
But imho, it's not that big of an issue
Mort is pretty good
winged belfry
not as good as Sanhua, because no 4 star is
vapid river
even his name is gross
burnt shoal
what element weapon is phoebe
vapid river
spectro
winged belfry
And Jiyan isn't as good as Camy
vapid river
most likely
winged belfry
what element weapon is phoebe
Spectro and most likely rectifier
burnt shoal
is jiyan going to get powercreep
vapid river
my jiyan is solidhe's already been powercrept
burnt shoal
Spectro and most likely rectifier
like shorekeeper?
vapid river
jinhsi was already out damaging him
well when skeeper came out
idk about with verina
winged belfry
is jiyan going to get powercreep
He technically already was, even in AoE niche by Camy, but actual difference ain't that big
vapid river
they were probably pretty even atp
winged belfry
like 10%?
vapid river
probably about that
my jiyan hits like 38k x2 and 120k for his "big hit"
then it's like 8x 17k?
or 6?
i can't remember how many hits his ult gets
it's only 3?
that feels wrong
winged belfry
yeah, powercreep in WuWa is very minimal, and spread between best and worst of the proper 5 star teams ain't that big. And even then, you will get far better DPS if you go sweaty quickswap teams then even best hypercarry one
like most speedruns are actually Changli+XY
vapid river
ye cuz they can qs
rotund drum
are we pretending jinhsigate didnt happen
or are we talking about post-jinhsigate only
winged belfry
the what?
vapid river
idk my jiyan still doing ~600k throughout all of ult dmg
39k x2 + 117k
then ~8x 3x 17k
if i can get 8 attacks off during ult
they all hit for 17k
and it's more if he's with skeeper
vapid river
cuz verina/mort doesn't come close to skeeper/mort
winged belfry
I don't know
I honestly prefer Verina in some cases
SK has much longer field time reqs
Not to mention that I don't use healers aside from middle tower and floors 4 on side ones
edgy cobalt
the real ccs are the ones with little subs
vapid river
ye i'm watching rn
guy doing work
can't wait to see the builds
doesn't even have nm monke
i wonder if this would have been possible pre spectro buffs
nah i take back what i said
normal people won't be able to replicate this
i didn't say it out loud but i thought it in my head
1 hit against aix
is crazy
timed intros to counter too
and echo counter on chixia
and it's not as though these things are hard
but he does them so consistently
i think they got hit like, 8 times throughout all of tower
maybe 10
this is nice
just click the purple and it takes you to the quest
dawn willow
Dang Phoebe for 2.1 first half
I wonder if this means we're getting Brant or Zani in the second half
Either way, have to choose one of them, cuz my savings are abysmal lmao
quasi sable
leak said 2nd would be brant
winged belfry
I wonder if this means we're getting Brant or Zani in the second half
Brant is confimed for 2nd
neat robin
Ngl
Having enough teams for tower is sorta nice cuz I can just ignore chars I dont like for now
Hopefully they dont powercreep anything quickly id like to be able to get chars I want and not need
neat robin
2 glacio if you’re hitting 130+ er
burnt shoal
woa
burnt shoal
sanhua so op
rotund drum
hopefully roccia saves havoc
i appreciate that the impermanent heron takes so long to get up after spawning that you dont actually have to fight him
crownspam was a pain in the ass by comparison
had to dodge his stupid aoe that doesnt match up with the animation every time
hollow gorge
I need to learn how to play Carl. Either that or she is clunky as hell. Ultimate targeting latching to random mobs is a bane of this game
rotund drum
you can switch the targeting mode in options
dawn willow
Brant is confimed for 2nd
Ugh...time to pick which one and get the other on a rerun like always then 
neat robin
I need to learn how to play Carl. Either that or she is clunky as hell. Ultimate...
Shes smooth
She is designed more for single target though, or you have to have target set on whatever main mob you’re trying to kill
burnt shoal
how many levels are there
rotund drum
way too many
hollow gorge
you can switch the targeting mode in options
I know. The one I am using is not working well with her apparently. Not sure if I wanna change
hollow gorge
For now I just use her to jump onto the mobs with skill and land Camy on top of their heads
Unfortunately I am thoroughly not enjoying the jerky motions of Carl when she is shooting
rotund drum
eh its just skill > ult > hold lmb until she's done ulting
neat robin
how many levels are there
10
neon falcon
does anyone know how much space wuwa takes up on mobile?
dapper oar
ive been farming her boss for like two days ive finally completed a full set with all double crit rolls
i got the lowest crit rate rolls imaginable alongside the highest crit dmg rolls
spice finch
does anyone know how much space wuwa takes up on mobile?
22GB
robust axle
dapper oar
im boutto BUST
lucid pebble
ive been farming her boss for like two days ive finally completed a full set wit...
I’ve spent over 60 energy cubes and don’t have a single usable 3-cost.
rotund drum
if you think that's bad wait till roccia
hollow gorge
Sanhua is so good
Kuro, gimme the concerto sword. I have 7 concerto broadswords, can I Smith it into a smaller one
hollow gorge
Unless you needed roccia cc just take sanhua on-swapoff
Tbh, I think Camys own CC is enough, doesn't look like Roccia add much to that
hollow gorge
I mean ngl sanhua does it so fast she doesnt need that sword
I wanna go faster. Often I don't see forte at all due to FX, so have to go by the feeling
rotund drum
i didnt really get to see how far roccia's succ reaches
jianxin's and the other anemo chick's are both pretty bad
and moving more than like two feet with CMLY is pain
hollow gorge
and moving more than like two feet with CMLY is pain
Carl is her legs She brings her majesty Camy to where she needs to be
edgy cobalt
roccia also has a gadget succ too in her kit when you press T at some points
hollow gorge
roccia also has a gadget succ too in her kit when you press T at some points
Gadgets are not working in ToA anymore, right?
edgy cobalt
you can still use gadgets in toa wdym
rotund drum
i thought they nerfed them after jinhsigate
edgy cobalt
nah, people still tapped in with the camera method
rotund drum
and people were just grappling to the top of the stage and nuking from where the boss couldnt reach
hollow gorge
Lmao
edgy cobalt
I still grapple in toa w/ jhsi yea
rotund drum
good balancing
hollow gorge
and people were just grappling to the top of the stage and nuking from where the...
It was nerfed. I got kicked once to the ledge on the top, you don't deal damage from there it seems
opaque flume
i didnt really get to see how far roccia's succ reaches
It’s p good just mostly on small mobs
rotund drum
Do I need to have full substance when using burst?
no
it stays forever until you use burst again so it only really matters for the first burst of moc
so its safe to spend it on superheavies
theres actually a buff icon that appears over your hp bar when you have it
looks like an hourglass or something
not sure what its supposed to be
spice finch
Ohhh so there is a timer for the 80% even if I use it before burst
Makes sense
So basically the rotation is fill forte then use heavy attack then burst
spice finch
Ohhh i thought it was a timer. It looks like a perma hourglass indicator
rotund drum
yeah idk why its an hourglass
they probably ran out of time to draw a real icon so they just use a filler
spice finch
It will be removed once you use burst
rotund drum
also kinda dumb that using ult removes all your substance and you dont get anything out of it
they probably couldnt figure out how to have it remove the bar on the ui and bring it back afterwards
so they just made it a "working as intended" mechanic that it deletes the bar
rotund drum
yeah but its awkward because sometimes it means you have to just hold your ult while manually charging heavy
rotund drum
its fine in theory but it gets awkward esp with some off the buffs that give op energy regen
edgy cobalt
when you spawn in, skill w/ clt -> run your supp rots -> intro and skill w/ clt then HA w/ full forte and ult rot afterwards
ig if you have the dmg you can just go straight to her ult and hell you can even cancel out your 4 shots with dashes lol
quasi sable
What's verina rot combo
edgy cobalt
s0 you’d swap into her and do 3BAs -> skill/turtle and 2 mid airs
if you have ult you replace 3BAs
if you have s2 w/ r5 variation you don’t need either
quasi sable
Do you have to use heavy attack too
edgy cobalt
she never uses HA
unless you wanna traverse quickly in OW when you can’t use your glider outside of rinascita
edgy cobalt
yeah I just spam it and I save a few seconds going from point A to point B back then
quasi sable
If your team has turtle already
Is it ok to change turtle to heron in sanhua
edgy cobalt
sanhua always uses heron
quasi sable
Huh
edgy cobalt
who told you to run turtle in sanhua 💀
quasi sable
who told you to run turtle in sanhua 💀
Someone from pokke server
quasi sable
So what's the rot for sanhua
edgy cobalt
Is it echo, ult, skill then hold ha?
echo should be last once you have outro.
I usually do ult -> skill -> forte -> swap out to ver/sk -> swap back to sanhua and do some attacks to fill concerto then I heron and swap out
thats what I was typing out but when you said pokke server I was actually smoked 
quasi sable
echo should be last once you have outro.
I usually do ult -> skill -> forte -> s...
Wait is it sanhua or verina in first rot
In camy team
edgy cobalt
for you, use verina first
quasi sable
Then sanhua > verina again?
quasi sable
Oh just that
edgy cobalt
verina outro buffs everyone
sanhua outro buffs the next resonator which should be cammy
quasi sable
How'd you check stats that got buffed?
edgy cobalt
some of the buffs like sanhua outro don’t show you in game you gotta press the char menu for those ones 💀
edgy cobalt
healer -> yinlin -> xy and repeat
knotty fiber
ain’t no way
I do use turtle on her
Because heron is annoying at times
2% dmg bonus is negligible, and SH charges quickly by herself
quasi sable
2% dmg bonus is negligible, and SH charges quickly by herself
What if someone in the team already has turtle
knotty fiber
Then heron
quasi sable
Got it