・wuwa-lounge

[neat robin]

Ow that zero er

[shut isle]

yeah

i was a bit short on energy during a ToA run/rotatoin. but that was b4 i unlocked zhezhi's 2nd inherent skill

so hopefully thats fixed

[neat robin]

Gotta get on-set 1costs but this is so far

[lament thorn]

elden ring vibes

[neat robin]

I’m hoping it doesnt take long to replace this

Technically any nm crownless with double crit is fine because this thing is mid

[lament shuttle]

nightmare crownless is better than dreamless now ?

[neat robin]

Technically normal crownless was already better on camy just too clunky to use

Nightmare is good

& buffs her havoc & basic dmg

[lament shuttle]

oh idont have her

not sure if any of hte other ones are worth it

[ornate basalt]

Does ZZ only need Res Lib and Forte levelled?

Or does she want a bit of everything

[lament shuttle]

I have lib and ciruit at 10 and rest at 5 lol

[neat robin]

I did lib forte & skill

[lament shuttle]

@dense elbow since Jinhsi's new coordinated atk friend is Yuanwu does he run healing set or does verina in that team ? Prydwen is kind ambiguous on it

[dense elbow]

imo id run yuanwu on healing set + the healing gauntlets and just b1 turtle swap

because his concerto is pretty ouch compared to verina

then verina runs heron

alternatively you could give yuanwu this lol

[lament shuttle]

is this better than heron

i assume verina goes back to healing set if u run that on him

[dense elbow]

2.5% less ATK but higher personal

altho requires crit so youd actually have to build yuanwu

just another option rly

id prefer healing + moonlit

since yuanwu verina is a cheap core

[lament shuttle]

ive been using him with a lvl 1 weapon so idk if he actually does any dmg when built lol

[lament shuttle]

also I read that Fallacy > turtle since buff duration longer ?

[dense elbow]

5s longer but its more permanent of a buff

altho i personally prefer turtle because it gives interrupt res

so even if you get hit and end up losing the buff

you arent gonna get knocked about

up to you imo

[dense elbow]

and yeah its not rly considerable compared to jinhsi lol

[lament shuttle]

Ok iguess the only annoying part is now verina is glued to Jinhsi unless i wanna swap echos to healing everytime...

also for Zhezhi the new set is surely better right

oh wait Heron gives also 12% increased dmg hmm

[opaque flume]

Oh I thought heron was better

Someone just told me that tho

I didn’t do the math

[lament shuttle]

Idk for sure

for her personal dmg its better but 12% on your main dps might be better than 80% more Coord

[opaque flume]

I mean heron requires outro

So

[lament shuttle]

she outros so its fine

[neat robin]

Zz needs to outro lol

[opaque flume]

Ok

[neat robin]

Carlotta likes heron buff more than zz needs coord buff

[opaque flume]

Ya I just heard that heron buff was better

[neat robin]

I think yinlin wants the coord set & nightmare mephis

[lament shuttle]

its 12% dmg + 2.5% atk vs 80% coord basically

[opaque flume]

And zz cord is ass

[neat robin]

Tempest nightmare I think

[opaque flume]

Ya

Yinlin also crits more often

[lament shuttle]

so 5 pc electro on her and yao

[opaque flume]

Speaking of which with sig is the coord set better cause I have sig on zz

[opaque flume]

Yinlin wants coord set

[lament shuttle]

wait what the new mephis is coord set to ?

[opaque flume]

I run atk on Yao

As well

Not electro

Maybe I should switch

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807809192537882647/1324731501895487519/20435b1af7e76f8f02dd8a86782c34a3.jpg?ex=677937da&is=6777e65a&hm=1f8bad3ee03141d84a23359abe739cc2d6782dcd3d4f26f792f283a011ff326b&

[neat robin]

Yao like mech & 5 tunes if with yinlin

[opaque flume]

Ya that’s what I’m using

But I thought the new echos

Made it better

The new electro echo

[neat robin]

You can do the nightmare mephis that gives lib% and go 2/2 build in a quickswap changli yao team

[opaque flume]

Where the buff isn’t ass

[neat robin]

I’m still on 2/2 even with yinlin I may test nm mephis

[knotty fiber]

oh man I love Abby

[lament shuttle]

this is what they have rn for him

[neat robin]

Sig yao wants tunes

There were multiple calcs when he was dropped

[opaque flume]

Who is they

[knotty fiber]

he uses tune simply because the cost 4 echoes sucked

[lament shuttle]

prydwen

[knotty fiber]

electro is way better if he can use the echoes

and nightmare sure did that

[opaque flume]

Ok so now we have conflicting

Thoughts here

[lament shuttle]

I mean i recall all electro echos sucking ass

[opaque flume]

[knotty fiber]

they all did

[opaque flume]

I thought that the nightmare ones are good now or smth

[knotty fiber]

yao's echoes required the last hit to land

it took too much time

[neat robin]

Yeah the lib% nm mephis will help

Some og echos are fine
Like you can cancel monkey so jiyan is fine
Offers same buff normal & nightmare version

[knotty fiber]

beringal still requires hitting

and I don't like it

it's so fucking shitmissy

[neat robin]

Yeah I’m never replacing mine tho

[lament shuttle]

ok so:
-yinlin to new set with coord with new echo
-yao to 5 pc thunder with new echo
-ZZ still on heron

[neat robin]

Yes

Sad cuz I cant just move zz moonlit onto sanhua for good

[knotty fiber]

does Yinlin really want the coord set

[neat robin]

I think

[knotty fiber]

her coord dmg isn't that big

[neat robin]

She was already either electro set or moonlit

Coord set with dedicated mephis seems more for her

[lament shuttle]

oh they updated her page too

[languid summit]

When I saw Abby at first I thought I was dealing with Paimon 2.0. Pleasantly surprised that it's not the case.

[knotty fiber]

it sure buffs her coord dmg but coord is like half of her dmg or less

[neat robin]

Oh hm I forgot the mephis is both sets again

nm tempest is yinlins
nm thundering is yaos

Shit I forgot
I’m missing one electro 3cost if I swap yao over

[knotty fiber]

I love it
It gives good vibe

[neat robin]

I wonder if new nm mephis yao wants atk+ele or both ele 3costs

[knotty fiber]

atk ele is the general standpoint

for about every dps with sig

[neat robin]

Ok. Sorta figured cuz he liked tunes atk before

[knotty fiber]

Klt is pretty inclined to atk atk

cuz of the new set lol

[neat robin]

Jiyan still wants 2 ele

See I’m never getting a nm monkey though

[winged belfry]

WTF

That's like perfect for him

[knotty fiber]

never in my wildest dream

[neat robin]

I currently only have 4 echos older than that monke

One is jiyans 1cost
Cr cdmg atk% heavy skill

[knotty fiber]

lmfao what

[lament shuttle]

oh they didnt reset the top up bonus

[neat robin]

Hmmm do I farm nm thundering for yao or nm crownless for camy first

[vapid river]

it's given me 2 i know your pain

[edgy cobalt]

he’s still the only standard char im missing

still don’t know if I wanna use my free selector on him

[vapid river]

i wouldn't

get a verina con

he's hands down the worst standard 5*

i have him s5 and he's still level 40

i have 0 interest in leveling him

maybe the new glacio set makes him good but i highly doubt it

nope he still wants lingering tunes

which is crazy since a good chunk of his damage comes from res skill

but he gains 6k dps from s0 to s6

literally the worst 5*

also

this is kinda crazy

21k jump from s5 to s6

[neat robin]

I’m at s3
Maybe I go s6 on rerun

[vapid river]

she does more dmg at s0 than lingyang does at s6

and the time is rougly the same

13.76(carl) vs 13.47(ling)

surely they do something

i actually feel bad for lingyang

he wasn't getting use before but like

this is criminal

at least s6 aalto is comparable with s2 jiyan

damage wise

to a single target

wait

wtf is this rot

r->e->na5x->echo->fuck off

are we sure this guy should be considered damage?

[neat robin]

Outro bot

[winged belfry]

Wait, for real?

[burnt shoal]

game said i need 70% accuracy to pass the challenge but i only got 69% on first try rip

[vapid river]

i mean, guy is on field for not even 4 seconds but yeah

he's like 35k dps at s6

jiyan is 33k at s2

[neat robin]

Aalto mains are scary

[winged belfry]

TF

Link me rotation or something

Anything

[vapid river]

but it's deadass ult/skill/5xNA/echo/fuck off

i just did

that's his rot

ult/skill/5xNA/echo/outro

[winged belfry]

Oh

[vapid river]

hella simple

[winged belfry]

You mean momentary DPS

[vapid river]

he's slotted as mdps

but like

should he be?

did prydwen make the right choice

[neat robin]

I wanna see more quickswap
I dont like changli but I want more

[vapid river]

and this is with updated nm monke

i suppose if he has so low of field time he needs er on 4 or 5 echoes

[sweet coral]

Damn I can’t use this without a Crit Rate weapon for Zhezhi

On the other hand, I got this beauty for Camellya

[neat robin]

Hecate sorta whatever

[sweet coral]

If it was THE best then I suppose the flat HP could be Crit Rate but I already have almost 90% Crit rate on her

[sweet coral]

If there’s a buffing Echo for Coord set then I guess

[neat robin]

There isnt

Its a mephis (for yinlin) or hecate

Moonlit + heron/turtle buffs your mdps atk & dmg

[sweet coral]

There’s a Moonlit Turtle?

Oh there is

Ngl Nightmare Crownless is kinda clunky

If only it was a summon Echo instead of a transformation one

Also I wonder why they randomly renamed the Havoc set

Sun Sinking Eclipse sounds way cooler than Havoc Eclipse bruh

[neat robin]

Slug .. dinos?

[sweet coral]

The fuck is that

[vapid river]

looks friend shaped

[neat robin]

They curl into balls when you get too close

I have found where the swords go

I have not found every sword 😔

[vapid river]

this will have to do

haven't been even getting echoes to drop

fuckin game hates me

i would gladly give up 9cdmg for 9cr

and maybe a splash of er

😭

[sweet coral]

Yinlin rerun again please I need Stringmaster

[neat robin]

Damn

Still missing 3 cdmg subs

[winged belfry]

Is that 4-4?

That has to be 4-4

[vapid river]

truly weapon diff

[winged belfry]

Best I've got was 65-303

And that was missing just a single Crit Rate sub

[vapid river]

i couldn't see ninjy going 4-4

though they might

since echoes are limited rn

rather they haven't been out long enough to farm a decent amount

the way she looks at her gun. so american

https://tenor.com/cSnHNDisqVw.gif

[winged belfry]

You cannot really farm in the same way as in Genshin. The plateau happens much faster in WuWa

[vapid river]

unless you try joining other worlds yeah

and who wants to be social on wuwa

[neat robin]

No its 4 /3/3 with sig & skeeper

[vapid river]

ew

[winged belfry]

Oh, so It's post buffs

Talk about padding

[vapid river]

might as well eat some food while you're at it

[neat robin]

Yeah I just have casual 153 skill dmg on paper

[vapid river]

i didn't even notice that

[neat robin]

This is current paper stats

[vapid river]

i was thinking about the earlier ss you had of her base

yeah which is still really good

2473 atk is wild

[knotty fiber]

she was literally last banner

[neat robin]

Atk/ele 3costs

[vapid river]

figured

[winged belfry]

Giving out buffed stats is like measuring member length from the base of the spine

[neat robin]

My jiyan is 2.3k atk on double aero

[vapid river]

you also farmed his echoes like a mad lad

so

[neat robin]

Well its buffed stats cuz thats what she had when I did 489k nuke

[vapid river]

[winged belfry]

Fair enough

S2?

[neat robin]

S3

I spent coral

[knotty fiber]

SK buff

[vapid river]

also that's 4 hits for like 4.4-4.8 yeah?

[neat robin]

I like the casual 40+50k outros

[winged belfry]

S3 worth it?

[vapid river]

100%

[neat robin]

Its free 50k (as of current build) just for leaving field ontop of her normal outro dmg

[vapid river]

tbh every sequence is worth

[winged belfry]

Wait

[vapid river]

she doesn't have a wasted sequence imo

[knotty fiber]

as I have said

[winged belfry]

S3 is outro or skill buff?

[knotty fiber]

either you go S0, S3 or S6

[vapid river]

skill

[knotty fiber]

no inbetween

S3 is both outro + skill buff

[winged belfry]

Why no S2?

[neat robin]

S3 adds an extra outro + a buff

[vapid river]

you can say that, but you can't deny her sequences are all good for her

[sweet coral]

Ay, it was more important for me to get WuWa Husband No.2 his signature first

Besides

[knotty fiber]

it's big (not really that big) but you want the S3

[sweet coral]

I have no Yinlin

Yet

[neat robin]

String is just too universal for rectifiers

[winged belfry]

I'll wait till later

[vapid river]

yeah, s2 to s3 is bigger than s1 to s2

[winged belfry]

I have like 1000 coral, and I'm thinking about buying S2

[vapid river]

but s3 to s6 is fucking insane

[neat robin]

I genuinely may just go to s6 on rerun
I need to see what zani kit is

[vapid river]

it's like 30k dmg

[winged belfry]

But I think I still have 17000 asterites

[knotty fiber]

I think they nerfed her S6

[vapid river]

30k dps*

[sweet coral]

https://tenor.com/view/xiangli-yao-xly-yao-wuthering-waves-wuwa-gif-10816692533026532722

[knotty fiber]

I don't know

[neat robin]

Either save for carla s6 or zani s3 I’m not sure

[knotty fiber]

I don't have it so I can't test

[sweet coral]

I bet she’s a healer

[knotty fiber]

but seems like it's additive with the forte's 80%

[sweet coral]

I mean what’s that shield gonna do if she’s not sustaining

[neat robin]

Have you seen the pgr ‘shielders’

[sweet coral]

No

[knotty fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-pgr-nanami-startrail-nanami-knight-nanami-pgr-gif-10150222441182588934

[sweet coral]

Do they just bash people with it

[knotty fiber]

Sword shield unit

that's from their other game yes

[winged belfry]

That's MF Monsters Hunter Charge Blade

[sweet coral]

Oh shit that’s a whole battle axe

[knotty fiber]

she's a tank

but a fucking dps at it

[sweet coral]

Zani’s accent tickles the right nerve in my brain

I like it

[winged belfry]

I was thinking about squishable cheeks on a blonde

[vapid river]

also

[winged belfry]

Phoebe looks cute

[vapid river]

does skeeper just not have a tacet mark?

[sweet coral]

Yeah

[vapid river]

does zani also just not have one either?

[knotty fiber]

She's not a resonator

[sweet coral]

I think

[knotty fiber]

Zani does

[sweet coral]

Nah

She probably does

[knotty fiber]

I think not visible yet

[vapid river]

but i thought that was the point of them

they had to be visible

[sweet coral]

Some characters’ marks aren’t visible

[neat robin]

Weee casual 180k nonbuffed 2nd ult

[winged belfry]

Well no, but you can treat what's on her chest as one

[vapid river]

that's why lumi's outfit is weird

[sweet coral]

Like I can’t find XLY’s on his damn arm

[neat robin]

I heard zani mark might be on her tail

[vapid river]

i'm not going to treat her booba as a tacet mark

[winged belfry]

It's on his knuckles

[sweet coral]

Despite the report says it’s on his prosthetic arm

[vapid river]

ik you mean the blue crystal

[winged belfry]

Have you seen Changli?

[vapid river]

okay fair

[sweet coral]

Camellya

[vapid river]

but it's not the booba

just booba adjacent

[sweet coral]

There’s one character with the boob mark

Brant

[vapid river]

true

[sweet coral]

[vapid river]

he does have his right on his pectoral

[neat robin]

Xy mark is not his knuckles

[vapid river]

kinda weird

[winged belfry]

I'll wait for the beta leaks

[vapid river]

it's like, below his shoulder

where the arm connects

that's where xy's is

[knotty fiber]

chest mark is pretty norm now

[vapid river]

it's hiding in there

[winged belfry]

I hope Pheobe will be DoT character

[vapid river]

[winged belfry]

I usually really enjoy DoT playstyles in other games

[knotty fiber]

SK is a sonoro entity so she doesn't have one

[vapid river]

also are these purely aesthetic or do they serve a purpose?

[winged belfry]

There is more need for good Sub DPSes than for good DPSes

[vapid river]

there's more need

for heal/support

not even sdps

[winged belfry]

I mean

[vapid river]

give me a third sk

these 4* really ain't cutting it

they feel bad to play

[winged belfry]

I only use Verina and SK on middle tower and floors 4 of left and right tower

[vapid river]

i could do literally 8 dmg per hit with skeeper

and i'd rather play her

than a yuhu doing 80k on NAs

[winged belfry]

I mean, I'm not complaining about Baizhi

[vapid river]

i don't use her

my 3rd team is 1mdps and 2sdps

[winged belfry]

She's competent enough at her role

[neat robin]

I hate baizhi

[winged belfry]

Fast concerto

[vapid river]

i mean yeah she gets the job done

but meh

i think she was my first s6

[winged belfry]

She's more than enough for floors 1-3

If I have to use her

[neat robin]

These randoms get an entire intro cutscene

[vapid river]

i mean, i use cal on one side and hrover on the other

but now i can use whoever i want

with 5 mdps

it wont' really matter anymore

ig 6 technically with cal

7 with hrover

yeah we really don't need anymore mdps

you right

[winged belfry]

I usually use Jinhsi on one of the F4 and one of the F on middle tower, and Camellya on the other

Xiangli Yao and Yinlin don't cut it for me

[neat robin]

Mm yeah
Jiyan XY Camy Jinhsi Carlotta Encore..
the only problem now is hsi & carla want zz

[winged belfry]

Mine are too bad for F4

[vapid river]

that's the nice thing about having jiyan, jinhsi, and camy. any of them can handle middle tower just fine

[neat robin]

I use yinyao in middle

[vapid river]

true yinyao for middle works too

[winged belfry]

Yeah, that's why we need sub DPSes

[neat robin]

I also did yinyao in middle 1st of overdrive lol

[vapid river]

yeah but in tower you're only going to use them both at most 4x. last floor on either side and 2 in middle

[winged belfry]

We have 2

Zhezhi is really good

While Yinlin is very slow on concerto generation

[neat robin]

I prob wont use hsi much at all anymore

[vapid river]

but you still could if you wanted

it's nice that she's still an option

esp on spectro floors

[neat robin]

Ive found yinlin fine
She needs to do combo to apply her coord anyways

[winged belfry]

Well, maybe Yinlin and Xiangli Yao feel bad because I didn't have either of their signatures

[neat robin]

Oof yeah

I have s0r1 both

[vapid river]

that def helps their dmg

[winged belfry]

Yeah, I'm using BP weapons on both

R3 on XY

And R1 on Yinlin

[vapid river]

stonard is great for xy

at least you're not using a f2p 4*

that would be awful

[winged belfry]

Yeah

I guess in WuWa weapon being a 5 star and therefore having high base ATK matters a lot no, and for a very simple reason

No fucking Bennett

[vapid river]

yeah this isn't genshin

this isn't hoyo

[neat robin]

** next 5* support is an atk buffer

[winged belfry]

Oh good please no

[neat robin]

Genuinely ew though
I like the crit buffs its easier to build when ik I’m using skeeper

[lyric fjord]

nah next support will be for the debuffs, to introduce a new playstyle

[winged belfry]

Don't make supports too universal

Debuffs/DoT being viable would make me very happy

[vapid river]

both skeeper and verina amp dmg

it's basically the same thing

it's all forms of dmg

[winged belfry]

I really enjoy that playstyle in most games

[vapid river]

you could just calculate that to a certain atk% and it'd be the same

[neat robin]

I want a non spectro dot/coord support
Then a spectro+skill buffer for jinhsi

[vapid river]

fuck off jinhsi

bad

jiyan needs a better support

[neat robin]

Well theres spectro dot & will be aero dot echo sets

Aero dot is for the aero+heavy buffer surely

[vapid river]

i'm hoping

[winged belfry]

Yeah, my predict is that an elf lady is a Areo Dot

[vapid river]

please don't be a man

please don't be a child

this mort/verina combo

is not it

[neat robin]

Elf yes
Shes sentinal person isnt she?

[vapid river]

oh wait

fuck

fuck

[winged belfry]

No spoilers

[vapid river]

why does that have to make sense

it's speculation

but like

[neat robin]

No thats been leaked for ages

[vapid river]

it's hard to deny how much sense that makes

[neat robin]

Elf is the hsi of rinacita or whatever

Also free 4* idk what these ones do

[vapid river]

ye

she's already been teased too

[winged belfry]

These weapons get ATK on debuffs

[vapid river]

must be the region specific 4*

[neat robin]

So I can hoard this box forever

Cool

[winged belfry]

They are High base Atk, low ATK sub, and as passive have stacking a lot of ATK% upon hitting targets afflicted by debuffs

[vapid river]

yes

i have 5 bp weapon boxes just chillin

[winged belfry]

So I expect emergence of DoT further down the line

[vapid river]

i should probably spend these

[neat robin]

Well carlotta too

[vapid river]

[neat robin]

She has her non-dot debuff

Do I remember what it does.
Absolutely not

[winged belfry]

Def down

She has another that makes enemy not move

[vapid river]

def down or attribute shred?

right?

or is the attribute shred coming later

[lyric fjord]

carlotta has a def ignore but only for herself iirc

the montellis don't get rich by sharing their buffs

[vapid river]

true

[neat robin]

I cant find the ‘near windmills’ sword enemy

Got the other 4

[vapid river]

i can't remember but you mean the guys with the swords

you put on that island yeah

in the pedestals

[neat robin]

Nvm I found him I’m just dumb

[vapid river]

was he hiding in bushes?

[neat robin]

It was one of the dreamscape challenges

[vapid river]

ah

[neat robin]

Idk where the sword itself is

I completed all 3 parts of the challenge

Unless this isnt the right knight

[vapid river]

i think you get a cutscene with all of the ones that give you a sword

so as long as you got that it should be the right one?

[neat robin]

I dont have it

I will google

I also just had abby tell me to look under the water idk what this quest is

[vapid river]

she jumped to the pillar next to the wall

then onto this thing

like it was just the natural course of action

???

have your tea

[neat robin]

I just realized we get hrover wavebands

Does this get to s6 yet?

[vapid river]

no clue

[neat robin]

Kinda really want brant

[vapid river]

why?

[edgy cobalt]

what did I miss here

[edgy cobalt]

s3 gaming

[vapid river]

finna jump if my first s6 5* is lingyang

unless they rework his kit and he becomes another glacio support for lotta

[lament shuttle]

im at s5 but maybe the collectibles get u s6 ?

[vapid river]

the ragunna sonance caskets?

[lament shuttle]

ya

[vapid river]

i don't remember seeing one at the end

nah don't see it in there

[lament shuttle]

then ig its s5 only

smh 25% crit locked behind that last one

[edgy cobalt]

I have like 1.5 more areas to max out which I'll do tmr, 6/8 of them are at 100%

[vapid river]

i fucking hate standard pulls

8 pity cal after that lingyang

fuckin hell

still no encore or jianxin

0 verina cons

[lament shuttle]

why not pull for standard weapon instead of this xd

[vapid river]

b/c i want a jianxin

i've only lost 4 50s

3 of them were lingyang

1 was cal

[lament shuttle]

wdym 50s isnt this roulette of 1/7 or wtv

[vapid river]

i'm saying overall

and wdym 1/7?

.>

there are only 5 you can get from standard

afaik

[lament shuttle]

yeah 1/5 mb

[vapid river]

the picture yeah

that's standard

but on limited

i've still only lost to lingyang and cal

[lament shuttle]

im just keeping my standard pulls cuz like

i dont have resources to lv lanother 5* weapon

[vapid river]

it might be better to go for weapon atp

that's fair

[lament shuttle]

and pulling on character is like throwing money down the drain lmao

[vapid river]

though i've only got two standard 5* weapons

[lament shuttle]

maybe as we get closer to ani

[vapid river]

like

[lament shuttle]

theyll add some chars to standard

[vapid river]

this is why

[lament shuttle]

you have more than me

[vapid river]

they'll eventually all be 90

except maybe static

fuck that gun

[lament shuttle]

its not bad

[vapid river]

it's good for mort

and i hate mort

[lament shuttle]

its the only other crit other than sword

[lament shuttle]

i use it on chixia for lower TOA floors

[vapid river]

lotta's pistol has to be better for her now though yeah?

[lament shuttle]

yeah

but i dont wanna swap gear all the time lmao

and my guns alreayd both lvl 90 so ...

idk if any of the upcoming chars are inspiring

[vapid river]

that's why i wanna 90 this

so i can just leave it on cal for tower

[lament shuttle]

cals best spot is on the bench

never to be used again

[vapid river]

he's s3

and i invested early

so

might as well use him

[lament shuttle]

oo

[vapid river]

like he's not terrible

he definitely handles 1-3 just fine

i used him before i had xy for all of one side

believe it or not

[lament shuttle]

yeah i use chixia / encore for those

[vapid river]

no encore

i wouldn't use her anyway

i don't like how she plays

i would use jianxin

she'd never see floor 4

but she'd have fun in 1-3

[lament shuttle]

jianxin is kinda doodoo

[vapid river]

she is

jianxin, cal, and lingyang

all doo doo

sadly

[lament shuttle]

its ok verina and encore carry

[vapid river]

well, cal isn't really that bad

he's just annoying to play

if you don't like quick swap

s6 cal is comparable to s2 xy

so he's not as in shambles as lingyang

[lament shuttle]

with like 10x the effort

[vapid river]

s6 lingyang is 6k dmg lower than s0 carl

actual shambles

[lament shuttle]

do we know the next characters

that willbe released

[vapid river]

you mean next banner in 2.0?

or 2.1?

[lament shuttle]

whichever

[vapid river]

next banner is roccia and jinhsi

from what i've heard

[lament shuttle]

hmmm

[vapid river]

then bran boy and phoebe?

i think?

[lament shuttle]

i dont need roccia cuz no camellya

[vapid river]

don't quote me on bran/phoebe

[lament shuttle]

idt jinhsi cons are worth it either

maybe ijust get s2 carlotta then

[vapid river]

jinhsi is s3 then s6

her s2 doesn't do shit

unlike what i originally thought

but s6 is worth if you can get there

[lament shuttle]

i think i have s2 so maybe one con

[lament shuttle]

thats insane amount of mney

even if u vpn to japan for cheaper top ups

[vapid river]

i got s4 jiyan for 135

24.8 average pulls per jiyan on my account

like i think my account was meant for a woman

[lament shuttle]

are his cons good

[vapid river]

yes

[lament shuttle]

ik s6 is really good

[vapid river]

well, all but s1

or s2

yeah his s1

is fucking dumb

a res skill charge

so i can do it 2x

but i'll def get him s6 on his rerun

hopefully i don't have to pay for it either

b/c other than 3rd healer slot i don't really need anything other than waifu pulls

not going for roach or phoebe unless phoebe buffs jinhsi in some crazy way

not pulling elf unless she replaces mort

not pulling brant b/c idt he'll help my account

will be pulling zani

cuz waifu

she could be worthless and i'll still have her

[lament shuttle]

we dont know what phoebe does right

could be a healer

[vapid river]

could be anything yeah

people are speculating dot

mdps

well someone here wants her to be mdps

but i think she'll be sdps

a changli of sorts

[lament shuttle]

atp i need a main dps fusion, sub dps fusion, a sub dps character tailored for jinhsi and a healer

[vapid river]

changli is your sub fusion

i thought you had encore?

just use her

smh

[lament shuttle]

i do but she has no sub basically

[vapid river]

i fear the elf girl will be the healer

and i'll have to pull her

[lament shuttle]

u got like 2 patches surely

before that

[vapid river]

hopefully yeah

but i'll be pulling at least one zani+sig

which i should be able to save for

by the time she comes up

[knotty fiber]

Are they really gonna release another failure

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

Idts

They must have learnt

[vapid river]

107 is the person who wants phoebe to be mdps

look

lingyang exists

they've learned nothing

https://tenor.com/9tHO.gif

[knotty fiber]

That furry was 1.0

We don't talk about it

Also

I'm with with Fibi being sdps
Just don't make another Changli

Because she's a fucking failure

[vapid river]

you know some people here went hard for her

[knotty fiber]

Kinda fun to play, but the game's direction does not go in favour for her kit

[vapid river]

surely they'll take offense to that

[knotty fiber]

I pulled her

[vapid river]

i think someone s6r1 her

[knotty fiber]

And I DO use her

My friend did

[vapid river]

actual scam

[knotty fiber]

And she had to admit it

[vapid river]

same, she spent like... 1200 aud?

s6r5

then she uninstalled

like wtf are you doing?

[knotty fiber]

They can't possibly make another quickswap unit while locking the outro with "do not swap or you lose the buff" bullshit

[vapid river]

isn't that the only change she needs

and she'd be fine?

[knotty fiber]

Yes

Change her outro

And then give her a fusion dps or sdps whatever

She'd be good

That no-swap mech just ruins it

Maybe I'm just being negative because there is still no dps that she can dedicate her kit as a whole to

[vapid river]

idk her kit and idk encore's

but it'd be surprising for a 5* limited sdps to buff a standard 5* mdps

[knotty fiber]

Nah she doesn't buff Encore

[vapid river]

though ig yinlin does that for cal

[knotty fiber]

She does but not considerable

[vapid river]

even though xy is just better cal

[knotty fiber]

Encore is better off with SH

Speaking of Yao

[vapid river]

ah, encore is basic atk?

[knotty fiber]

He would have done so much better if Yinlin's buff wasn't onfield lock

[vapid river]

and changli does res lib and fusion

[knotty fiber]

Because his ult mode animations take too long

[vapid river]

maybe brant will be mdps

[knotty fiber]

And he should be

[vapid river]

for fusion

no phoebe for you

oh wait you wanted her spectro mdps

oof

[knotty fiber]

I'm fine with either

[vapid river]

2.x kinda rough for you

whenever brant and phoebe come out

[knotty fiber]

I don't pull Brant lol

I decided to pull who I like only

[vapid river]

even if he's the mdps changli needs?

[knotty fiber]

What, do I look like I need more comps 😭

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

I can't even use all of my units

[vapid river]

that's kinda where i'm at

[knotty fiber]

[vapid river]

i'll forego all fusion comps atp

i didn't even want to pull lotta

but she's so fun to play

[knotty fiber]

I tried pulling Zz, got Jianxin, so I ditched her

[vapid river]

you went for zz first?

that's smart actually

[knotty fiber]

I got Klt alr

[vapid river]

ah

[knotty fiber]

I don't need Zz for her to work

[vapid river]

so who is your sdps? taoqi or lumi?

[knotty fiber]

Works well with Changli or Yao

Taoqi feels terrible to play

[vapid river]

she really does

[knotty fiber]

I tried and didn't last an hour

[vapid river]

she's genuinely the only slow character in the game

jinhsi attacks faster

[knotty fiber]

Yao n Changli provides way better hand feel and dmg output

[vapid river]

jiyan attacks faster

like wtf were they thinking?

"big sword means slow swing. girl can't swing fast" unga bunga noises

????

[knotty fiber]

Her melons hold her back

[vapid river]

i can feel myself getting older when she swings

maybe that's it

[knotty fiber]

I genuinely can't like her

[vapid river]

the gravitational pull is too strong

in the story she wasn't bad? but we only really saw her for that one scene

then nothing

iirc

she helped lead the charge or w/e

cal still in shambles

[knotty fiber]

I wasted some xp and 60 waveplates for her

[vapid river]

verina/jianxin both involved in main story

[knotty fiber]

And I regretted it

[vapid river]

oof

even lingyang got a character story

encore did too

[knotty fiber]

They 5*

She 4*

[vapid river]

i mean for cal

😭

[knotty fiber]

He's

MiA

[vapid river]

and of the standard 5* he's the most unique looking one imo

[knotty fiber]

He's the only std 5* to have cinematic intro

[vapid river]

3 children and wandering kung fu master

or this badass mercenary

like

why are they sleeping on him

wait is he actually MiA in the story?

[knotty fiber]

Nahh

[vapid river]

b/c he is a mercenary

[knotty fiber]

Have we even met him

[vapid river]

i found that out today

no

but

[knotty fiber]

I can't rmb

Lmfao

Anyway

[vapid river]

this is his sig dish

and if he's catering to younger merc's tastes

that means he's one himself

right?

i'm just assuming but it seems like an okay assumption

[knotty fiber]

I'm more likely to pull sequences for Fibi if she's a dps, because a dps' sequence is way better than a sdps'

[vapid river]

true

[knotty fiber]

I think it's also mentioned somewhere he's one

Ah

Wait

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

I remember he had some relationship with Jiyan

[vapid river]

was it cal or was it jiyan's commander

the og

who is dead? maybe?

hiding?

[knotty fiber]

Yeah it was mentioned somewhere he was a mercenary

Leader of the "Ghost Hounds", an international mercenary group

[vapid river]

bruh

cal

chill

leader of ghost "hounds"
won't keep dogs

pardun?

verina?

aww he's a nice guy

this is from verina's pov

[knotty fiber]

New Fed thing

[vapid river]

verina and aalto are the only two that have voicelines about cal

and i can't see aalto's cuz he'll most likely never get level 5 intimacy

this is all he has to say about cal

and it's not even about cal specifically it's all ghoust hounds

why does kuro hate cal so much

encore has one about him too

and this is it

[opaque flume]

guys i actually saved up enough to buy a con

whats the best con in the game

like a limited one

[vapid river]

depends who you have

i'd honestly just save

s1 doesn't do much for really anyone

107 will tell you it's s3 or s6 for lotta

[opaque flume]

basically everyone c0 besides jiyan? idk

[vapid river]

jinhsi is the same

[opaque flume]

jinshi s1 seems pretty good

[vapid river]

it's not bad

[opaque flume]

its like a 30% damage increase

right

[vapid river]

but her s2 doesn't do shit

[opaque flume]

i thought her s2 is good cause it allows double the nukes

[vapid river]

nah

in overworld yeah

sure

when you have different fights

and she's off field

not in combat

[opaque flume]

oh ok

i see

[vapid river]

that's why even prydwen doesn't give her a damage increase

and her rot includes 2 intros

[opaque flume]

damn crazy

[vapid river]

and jiyan s2 is also in the same boat

idk if you have him s1 or not

but his s2 is worthless

[opaque flume]

i dont have him at all

[vapid river]

or next to worthless

[opaque flume]

lmao

🔥

[vapid river]

ah that's what you meant by except jiyan

[opaque flume]

so no good s1 or s2

lmao

[vapid river]

thought that meant you had him at s1+

not really

[opaque flume]

interesting

[vapid river]

it's all like 10-15% dmg increase

[opaque flume]

skeeper s1 and s2?

[vapid river]

i'm giving no advice for non-mdps

you do what you want there

[opaque flume]

oh s2 is decent

idk

party wide 40% attack buff

[vapid river]

as long as you're in her big ass buff thing yeah

[opaque flume]

well s1 makes it 150% larger

so

[vapid river]

which surprisingly i've had to kill shit out of even in tower

[opaque flume]

😭

[vapid river]

ye

[opaque flume]

big ass buff thing becomes bigger ass buff thing

[opaque flume]

i think with s1 its basically the size of tower

[vapid river]

jinhsi gains the most from s1 as far as mdps goes

15%

oh it's jiyan's s1 that doesn't do anything not his s2

[opaque flume]

ya skeeper is prolly a better investment

ngl

you use supports more

[vapid river]

i could see the argument that it'll go longer b/c there are really only two that are even viable

sk and verina

but sk is probably the better long term investment

gives tons of crit value

[opaque flume]

i mean verina ur gonna get

by losing 50/50s

lmao

[vapid river]

nah

that ain't me

at least

i have s5 lingyang

and s3 cal

[opaque flume]

i have uh

no encore

[vapid river]

same

[opaque flume]

no lingyang

[vapid river]

no jianxin either

[opaque flume]

s2 cal

[vapid river]

i'd trade literally anything for this s5 lingyang

[opaque flume]

and s1 jiaxin or smth

[vapid river]

is that the cost of only losing 4 50s?

it probably is

[opaque flume]

jiaxin does nothing

[vapid river]

that's fine

she's better than lingyang

[opaque flume]

nah

idk

hes ice

[vapid river]

nah he's dogshit

s0 lotta does more damage than s6 lingyang

[opaque flume]

lmao