・wuwa-lounge

[vapid river]

i hope every x.0 will be like that

[knotty fiber]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664700831198871605/1320298552001429576/image.png?ex=67691758&is=6767c5d8&hm=ac6c2cc06f6f6531cd44011465b1a9f4fcd272ee46a25415561f4bb7c74f17eb&

Updated

They typo'd

So got the calc wrong

The one above is the new calc

[vapid river]

so it's still 229 pulls with moon+bp

nice

[opaque flume]

Are these the two new characters in 2.0?

[vapid river]

yes

well

carlotta/zz then roach/jinhsi

will be how the banners go

[lilac hare]

phase 1

Phase 2

[neat robin]

I have all the 4*s on carla banner s6 already, sorta nice

Better refunds that way

[vapid river]

same, but i'm a 10 pull away from getting a guaranteed 5* so >.>

idk if i'll pull on any of these

[neat robin]

I’m around 50 pity from getting my s0 lumi…

Good though we get so many pulls in 2.0 I should be fine to guarantee (though hoping I win carla ofc)

[vapid river]

i'll send you some of my luck

2.0 is early january right?

like the 2nd

ye

i hate waiting for content

[neat robin]

Yeah

[blissful tulip]

Honestly the more footage I see of Roccia the more I want her

She looks fun

[vapid river]

that would be the worst

b/c i don't need her at all

i hope lotta isn't fun to play

i hope they all feel bad

i don't want any reason to pull for them

give me my final support/buffer

shoo these dmg/subs away

[rotund drum]

its funny that you dont really think about bad the camera is for the hellborne geochelone until the game makes you fight it in illusive realm

hopefully they nerf it in wuwa 2

[vapid river]

i've never enjoyed the camera for the turtle

that's why i stopped farming for it

fight is still bugged

even in illusive

there's a 50% chance i end up INSIDE THE FUCKING TURTLE

????

why is this still a thing kuro

[rotund drum]

they got their money from the CMLYSIMPs so they dont care anymore

[hollow gorge]

Totally Elden Ring vibes it also has a bell that reminds me of ER, so I am just switch my brain to dark souls jank mode

[hollow gorge]

Well, it took a year for MHY to fix falling through Dvalins neck. And I think that battle still had jank for a year more...

Not sure if they fixed it, I stopped doing Dvalin during Inazuma

And compared to Geochelone, you couldn't damage Dvalin from inside, so you were toast. That was pretty gamebreaking imo

[lyric fjord]

A third of the cast cant kill dvalin due to bugs, they clearly have given up on this boss.
As long as they dont put the turtle in tower i'm fine

[neat robin]

I think theyd have to shrink the turtle to fit in tower

Which tbh would prob solve some issues of the characters fitting underneath it

[vapid river]

it only happens on swaps and on ult

well, jiyan ult

idk about anyone elses

[hollow gorge]

Anko also gets under the belly often

[vapid river]

xy is too good of a unit for them to give us for free

2nd tower in a row i didn't need jinhsi

[lyric fjord]

woah the new hazard tower, feels like both hazard and echoing towers are made for carlotta and none can fit for changli :(

[spice finch]

What resistance does scar have?

[lyric fjord]

havoc and spectro

but none of the buffs help any of changli's teams

guess i'll wait for carlotta to clear hazard tower

[vapid river]

no jiyan?

[lyric fjord]

nope, only changli skeeper xy chixia havoc rover and lingyang

[vapid river]

if your lingyang is built i'm sure right side would be okay

[lyric fjord]

that's what i'm doing but then changli can't clear hazard

[vapid river]

that sounds tough

have you only been playing since changli?

[neat robin]

Ohh I forgot the combat event is out rn

[spice finch]

How would I know this? Ive been using cam on that tower 😅🤣

I cant clear

[neat robin]

Also idc if its technically a waste I want a second r5 variation for verina
I dont like having to quit tower to swap from sk to veri every time

[edgy cobalt]

it tells you scar’s elemental immunity in the enemy lineup

[lyric fjord]

playing since day 1 :( but i'm fine, i have faith in carlotta

(and my pulls, 270 in stock)

[spice finch]

Okaaaay 😅🤣

I thought my cam is not critting 🤣

[vapid river]

that's what you hit him with jiyan

and clear in a minute

[lyric fjord]

resistances in tower are really harsh, they pretty much divide your dmg by 2

[neat robin]

Hmmm can I brute force the havoc enemies in middle before rider using camy

I wanna go xy / camy / jiyan teams

[vapid river]

i hate how rider takes 5+ seconds of time off the clock before you can even hurt him

asshat

[edgy cobalt]

I also ran jiyan but I’m filthy s0r0 player

[vapid river]

[spice finch]

Now my goal is to have dps from each element.

I only have xy/yinlin, changli/chixia and camellya

[vapid river]

i just got lucky

[edgy cobalt]

if you have zhezhi then carlotta should be gucci

[lyric fjord]

i'm hoping i can pull zz carlotta and carlotta's gun

[quasi sable]

Will that be even enough

[neat robin]

Gl

[lyric fjord]

i couldn't find any pull calculator for wuwa so i just pray to a statue on my desk every morning instead

[neat robin]

Someone shared, its like 200 pulls in 2.0

[lyric fjord]

150 yes

[neat robin]

Cant remember how many are in first half tho

[quasi sable]

@edgy cobalt What team zz and roccia excels at?

[vapid river]

my jinhsi still clears rider faster than xy

[vapid river]

zz with lotta

roccia with camy

you can swap sk or verina for each team

[neat robin]

Zz with jinhsi too, if no carla

[vapid river]

maybe baizhi for lotta/zz

idk if baizhi actually buffs glacio at all

[neat robin]

Camy feels better with sk, jinhsi with verina

[edgy cobalt]

she does but baizhi is just ass

[lyric fjord]

her s6

baizhi feels aweful to play

[neat robin]

^

[quasi sable]

I see

[vapid river]

ye

12% glacio

[quasi sable]

So I should pull all of them?

[vapid river]

for baizhi

not sure if worth

tbh

at least it's glacio for all characters

zz benefits from it

[neat robin]

No tbh, camy + sanhua is already so strong
Roccia will be better ofc but not necessary

[vapid river]

i'd rather use s4 lingyang

20% glacio for 30s

[quasi sable]

Man there's too much chars

[vapid river]

ye i'm not pulling for roach

s2 camy slays

[neat robin]

Sanhua was free

[vapid river]

she doesn't need help

[quasi sable]

This is what happen when you ditch for 3 patches

[lyric fjord]

that would imply having a full lingyang rotation for the s4 buff as it procs on outro lol

[neat robin]

.. did you not claim the sanhua from the start of game? Was just from logging in

[quasi sable]

I played from day 1

[neat robin]

You could technically give lingyang the concerto guantlets if you just want his outro buff

[quasi sable]

Sanhua is 5 now

Also how good Chixia at 6

[vapid river]

idk if you really need a rot

just e a few times

ult

e a few more times

honestly i'd just slam him with er

[quasi sable]

Also I just watch the trailer

[vapid river]

support lingyang fr

[quasi sable]

I like the music

[vapid river]

actually what is his ult cd

20s

[lyric fjord]

20s

[edgy cobalt]

im only missing lingyang from the standard pool

[lyric fjord]

125 cost good luck

[edgy cobalt]

and I still have my selector

[vapid river]

just give him 150% er

ez

[quasi sable]

I don't have Encore

Only thing that I missing of

[vapid river]

i have this

so that'll help

[edgy cobalt]

stringcore is so peak… 🙂‍↕️

[neat robin]

I hate encore

Ive tried

[vapid river]

i also hate encore

i can understand not wanting to use her

[neat robin]

She was super fun in illusive with the huge sheep skills but I dont like her normal gameplay

[vapid river]

i didn't enjoy her even in illusive

also the lingyang suggestion was a joke

i'd never consider building him

he will rot on my account

unless he's buffed

[quasi sable]

How good are

Chixia and Morte at dupe 6?

[vapid river]

idk about chixia don't use her

mort at s6 is nice

20% atk increase

[quasi sable]

Who's that 4* blue girl?

[neat robin]

Yuohu? The little one?

[quasi sable]

Yea her

What's her role

[neat robin]

Shes a healer

Atk scaling instead of hp like baizhi

[quasi sable]

That's it?

[neat robin]

I mean yeah? Shes got the rng enhanced skill but

Skill for heal. Outro buffs coord

She can hold rejuv+turtle thats good enough for a 4* support

[neat robin]

Wow I love watching jinhsi miss her crit 3x in a row

Made me restart tower

[quasi sable]

What's her crit

[neat robin]

77?

[quasi sable]

Typical not 100% moment

[neat robin]

Oh 74%

[vapid river]

Just pair her with skeeper

Get mad when your almost 90% crit misses

Over 90%*

It's 16% bonus cr yeah? 16 or 12 I can't remember

[knotty fiber]

By 3 times

[vapid river]

^

yeah

[knotty fiber]

You should feel lucky about it then

[vapid river]

he'd have to have some huge number changes

[knotty fiber]

I got both the ice furry and the ice fuck from std banner as my most recent ones

😭

S2 furry E3 yankshit

[vapid river]

yankshit?

[edgy cobalt]

yanqing

blud is an ice main in both games

[vapid river]

ah

i don't play hsr

[quasi sable]

both ice dps are twinks too

[burnt shoal]

what is this achievement

woa night voyager

[wide wing]

any idea on charlotta ascension mats??

[vapid river]

yeah, just scroll up a bit

[neat robin]

I got my new ipad omg

What a fucking jump in quality. I didnt even max everything

[vapid river]

i would hate playing on anything other than kbm

but that does look pretty

can you use a kb or mouse? bluetooth

[neat robin]

Man I got excited then realized you’d be giving up fast outro

[vapid river]

healing 4* wep

no thanks

[neat robin]

Cant beat variation

Unless you dont have one ig

[vapid river]

actual bricked account atp

unless you've only been playing for like 2 banners

[neat robin]

If I hadnt pulled jiyans sig idk if id have variation ngl

[edgy cobalt]

meanwhile I didn’t pull jiyan sig and I got r5 variation before the first week of the game’s release

[quasi sable]

Real

What team Lumi excel at

[neat robin]

Overworld

Idk tho she can be skill buffer for hsi team (her vs taoqi)

[vapid river]

okay i actually struggled with this one a bit

i think in order to get tech points from a boss you can't just nuke them with camy e

you have to dodge like at least one attack

b/c i was getting 200 or 220 a lot

but not actually getting hit by much

[edgy cobalt]

I got 170

should use the dodge boost actually

[edgy cobalt]

cheese the ape and mech with dodges and you should be good

[burnt shoal]

wait they reduced the score requirements for the event?

me knew it wasn't just me that found the scores too high

i thought you needed whale to clear

[burnt shoal]

can't clear last stage fully too hard for me

[neat robin]

Those are the tryhard stages like sometimes genshin with the platinum medals
But primo/astrite rewards stop before that score req

Just nice bonus if you can hit that score

[burnt shoal]

they didn't before they lowered the requirements

it was too hard to get the last primo tier

now devs listened

https://vxtwitter.com/Legend0777/status/1871868361841533136

[neat robin]

Ohh I see

[vapid river]

I was looking forward to trying to get 4k points on the last one too

[lyric fjord]

I swear the highest gor stage 6 was 3000

[vapid river]

It was

They lowered it

[spice finch]

How's carlotta C1/C2?

[knotty fiber]

some people think they're good

I think they are average

if I ever pull for her sequences, either S3 or S6

no below or inbetween

[vapid river]

i hope you double hit s3 into s4

[opaque flume]

what does this number mean

is this like

my position

[knotty fiber]

your coordinate yes

should be

[opaque flume]

oh y

a

[opaque flume]

where is 0,0

[knotty fiber]

idk

I don't really care about this stuff

I just know it's there

[vapid river]

go back to where you first woke up

[opaque flume]

is that 0,0

crazy

[vapid river]

no clue

just a suggestion

[opaque flume]

i closed the gane

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1e0xvw7/the_closest_you_can_get_to_coordinate_000/

oh heres a reddit post

[vapid river]

tragik

they have bonus to dmg for everything EXCEPT AERO

??????

fuck jiyan ig

camy too strong

[opaque flume]

Imagine having cons

Whale

[vapid river]

the bonuses can get anyone to crit for crazy amounts

just be good

and now you just have to kill all the bosses

and you get the end rewards

[vapid river]

skeeper only needs 250% er right? if you have her weapon max level that puts her at 227%

instead of er 3 costs

wouldn't it be better to do hp?

or atk, idk if she actually scales off of hp or not

but you can get 23% er from subs

pretty easy

just get 3/5

yeah?

like i have 26% er from my 4 cost and two 1 costs

i could just change

[neat robin]

I have both hp 3costs with variation
Just need 230% before fallacy & her ult brings her to 250

[vapid river]

well shit

ig i should change her 3 costs

[neat robin]

Its overkill

[vapid river]

oh that's right

[neat robin]

She revives for 22k rn

[vapid river]

i always think her forte needs fuckin rover

the er buff or w/e

[neat robin]

Way too much already, if you want just more dmg you’d go cdmg fallacy with hp 3costs

Or hp fallacy with spectro/hp 3 costs

[vapid river]

you think spectro would be better than atk%?

[neat robin]

She doesnt need atk

Her heal & her enhanced intro are hp scaling

Er til 230+, then hp & cdmg
And I think intro is lib dmg?

[vapid river]

weird

i have 1 spectro hp set

i usually don't get unless it's on er

[neat robin]

I usually only keep er rejuv stuff too

[vapid river]

i have 0 hp even

[neat robin]

But farmed for sk

I wanna get rid of that 1 cr sub

[vapid river]

her weapon is only level 70

[neat robin]

Yeah… swap at least one 3cost to hp or spectro

[vapid river]

yeah i switched to a spectro

gained a little hp

but that's all

er is at 230.1

b/c it also rolled more er

😭

[neat robin]

Good enough

[vapid river]

now should i level a cdmg fallacy

[neat robin]

You have like no cdmg subs so maybe

[vapid river]

all that hp

at wep max level

it won't be an issue

but idk, 36k hp?

feels like a huge loss

[neat robin]

Idk up to you

You need to hit 230 er though

[edgy cobalt]

game is so ass they are catering to the kurobots 😔

I hit a 4k flick first try only to realize they lowered it to 3.6k LMAO

[vapid river]

speak for yourself

i did take 2 tries

i ran outta time

[edgy cobalt]

I got like 4080

just spammed dodges as usual w/ ape and mech

had like 10 seconds to spare after nuking fallacy

[vapid river]

i even cleaned up

like 400 echoes

[vapid river]

ye i think people were misunderstanding(like i was for awhile) that all you need to do is spam dodge and it's easy points

tho i only realized it after killing bosses too fast and just not getting any points

which is dumb

if i take 0 dmg from a boss i should get more tech points

[edgy cobalt]

yeah it went from being challenging to being really trivial

[shut isle]

just hit UL 40, are the top statbonuses worth getting or are they a bit too resource intensive

[neat robin]

worth for your main dps

[shut isle]

also is there any particular reason to save these or should i just be using them whenever i get them

[vapid river]

i use when i need

though i've only maxed 5 units on forte

verina, skeeper, mort, zz, sanhua i haven't but might later on?

i've given up entirely on cal and rover

jiyan, xy, jinhsi, camy, yinlin(#DoItForHer) are the ones i've maxed

so 4 dmg and 1 support that didn't really need it

[neat robin]

Yeah I just use em when I dont have stam to finish farming

[vapid river]

i just saw these

this is such a scam

6 substats for half a 5* waveband

oh nvm, it's x20

so 12 substats

[spice finch]

When are we getting 2.1 gameplay leaks?

I wonder who will be next

[lyric fjord]

hello, is there a place to see how many weapon xp cores i need to upgrade a weapon from 1 to 90?

ok, it's 2692k apparently

[ornate basalt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A55QDK6LRj0

[placid holly]

https://wutheringwaves.kurogames.com/en/main/news/detail/1810

[vapid river]

still not gonna buy it

[vapid river]

thought to give it a try with yinyao

cake walk

[knotty fiber]

Ppl actually bashing kudog for tagging the skin with such high price

[edgy cobalt]

isn't it 21 bucks

which is fairly standard for kuro pricing
and iirc cheaper than genshit skins?

[vapid river]

i think it's 30 usd?

the 1980+260 bonus one

here

3280 full, 2680 with discount

[knotty fiber]

2680 discounted so about $37 if you are out of x2 and go the lunite packs, $45 if you go 9 monthlies, and $20ish if you have x2

[vapid river]

figures it's vins

[knotty fiber]

It is standard kudog pricing

[vapid river]

standard if you have 2x

[knotty fiber]

No

Standard without x2

[vapid river]

they're skins are normally that expensive

holy shit

[knotty fiber]

Because that skin is the mid-tier gacha skin

[vapid river]

it doesn't even make her hit harder though

😭

[knotty fiber]

Skin + weapon + avatar + namecard (frames in PGR)

[lament shuttle]

Spend on more cons instead

[vapid river]

^

[knotty fiber]

Their paid skins in PGR are $30 for skin weap skin and avatar

Skins aren't meant toward low spenders though

[vapid river]

thankfully i don't want jinhsi skin

[knotty fiber]

I don't either

[vapid river]

sanhua skin looks nice

glad that one is free

[lament shuttle]

If you come from like cs or valo it looks cheap

[knotty fiber]

But it's not a price that makes me unwilling to pay for

[vapid river]

ye

[knotty fiber]

If you compare it to Genshin skins it will be cheap

[vapid river]

oh for sure, if it was a good skin i'd buy it

[lament shuttle]

I got super busy irl and missed this whole patch

[vapid river]

not that i dislike pink, i just don't like how it makes her look like changli's little cousin

[lament shuttle]

Farmed for camellia and missed the banner lmao

[vapid river]

oof

that's tough

she's really good

[lament shuttle]

I’d she better than jinhsi

Is

[vapid river]

i have s1 jin and s2 camy(s2 jin doesn't add any real dmg imo) and i'd say they're about the same?

550k on nukes from mine

in tower that is

my jinhsi with skeeper/zz hit 550k

[lament shuttle]

I think I’m at c3 but I’ll save for the gunner girl

[vapid river]

and camy with sanhua/skeeper hits 550k

[lament shuttle]

Who looks fun

[vapid river]

ah, your jinhsi probably hits harder than mine then

50% more atk

well, if you can intro twice in 20s

otherwise it's just 25% which is still a lot of atk to gain just from doing a thing you were already gonna do

i kinda hope they increase rewards from tacets, bosses, and forgeries

for either ul70+ or 80+

it doesn't feel like the chances of getting that extra drop are very high

[knotty fiber]

Yes

[vapid river]

shh let the low investment jinhsi havers cope

[knotty fiber]

[vapid river]

but yeah, at s6 it's not even a competition

[knotty fiber]

Above S1 is where Hsi loses

She wins at S1

But that's about it

[vapid river]

unrelated but wtf has happened to the euro?

[knotty fiber]

Carlotta

[knotty fiber]

Euro?

[vapid river]

usd to euro conversion is like 1 to .96

[knotty fiber]

Ah

Euro is... inconsistent

[vapid river]

it was like 1 to .80 awhile ago

[knotty fiber]

[lament shuttle]

The us pumped billions to keep the economy strong

[vapid river]

some people would have you believe we're experiencing inflation

which will eventually lead to something bad happening

.>

[lament shuttle]

I mean having to pay back the debt

Is gonna suck

[vapid river]

we should just wipe all debt from all countries at the start of the new year

#NewYearNewMe

[lament shuttle]

The power houses in the euro zone are also not doing great

[lament shuttle]

China and other bond holders would very much not like that

[vapid river]

their debt with us will also get wiped

it's like a 6-8% difference

they can eat it

b/c yes

china is also in debt with the usa

for a little less than what we owe them

iirc

[lament shuttle]

Nowhere near as much

[vapid river]

what they owe us on the top and what we owe them on the bottom

though from what i've read they've lessened the amount of total debt held by a fair amount, i can't find any actual numbers for 2024

[lilac hare]

I wonder if there will be materials conversion in 2.0

Probably not

[shut isle]

does the difficulty effect the echo drops rewards

[warped willow]

im so ready

[neat robin]

1 more week

Cant come fast enough

Cant even level carla right away cuz we need new enemy drops but thats fine

[lilac hare]

Save the fragiles

I have 65 now

[neat robin]

Those wont help

Its overworld drops

[lilac hare]

Ah then yeah, she does need a new boss too as well as new overworld drops

Can’t max her out immediately unfortunately

[blissful tulip]

I hope she has different lines as well

[lilac hare]

The weapon projection can be for any weapon right?

Not just sig

[warped willow]

when im in a jinhsi glazing competition and my opponent is kuro games

[wheat moon]

huh, I kinda don't like this but that's fine

[neat robin]

Hmmm a couple new echos I can pick between

I really wanna go with the 2nd but thats only 78 cr after sk buff

Give me jiyan rerun so I can get s3

[vapid river]

can i justify spending this much for just a sigil

[vapid river]

the one on the right is better

+11.6% heavy atk, +15% cdmg for -8%atk and -4.2%cr

[neat robin]

My jiyan really likes skill subs

But 0 def subs so thats nice

[vapid river]

ye i'm ignoring the basic/res skill

cuz that's not where the meat and potatoes are

but even still the right side has more

10.1+24.4 > 33

honestly can't believe you're still working on your jiyan

left side i'd be happy with

[neat robin]

I’m bored waiting around

Cant prefarm carlotta echos

[vapid river]

that's fair

you could just save the tubes and tuners though

[neat robin]

I only roll to +5 if no crit or er for jiyan I trash it

[vapid river]

he doesn't need that much er

two echoes with at least 8% is fine

[neat robin]

I needed a couple subs lol

[vapid river]

ye

like 2 echoes with er is good

[neat robin]

If that new 3cost I just rolled hadnt had er it would have been at 108 int he right build

[vapid river]

108 is a bit low

that'd be kinda bad

[vapid river]

are we going to have to refarm jiyan's 4cost?

will the nightmare monke even work with that set?

[neat robin]

Idk

[vapid river]

[neat robin]

Theres that new aero set in 2.1 or later

[vapid river]

true but i thought that'd be aero support

i have no idea what it is though

[neat robin]

Idk where mpnkey is going

[vapid river]

wait the shield one?

[neat robin]

Its aero dot

[vapid river]

aero dot

sounds like sub dps?

[neat robin]

Theres a spectro & aero dot set

Would. Aero dot work for jinhsi stacks?

[vapid river]

If they count as coord attacks i don't see why not?

[neat robin]

Since zz is meant for carla
Still dont have a dedicated hsi sdps

[vapid river]

pheobe or zani

i would think

it would

if it counts as attribute dmg

it would hit the 1/3s proc

Jinhsi gains 1 Incandescence anytime Resonators in the party inflict Attribute DMG. This effect may be triggered by damage of the same Attribute for up to 1 time(s) every 3s. Additionally, Jinhsi gains 2 Incandescence when Resonators in the party damage the enemy with Coordinated Attacks. This effect may be triggered by Coordinated Attacks of the same Attribute for up to 1 time(s) every 3s.

[neat robin]

If zani actually is spectro we need a new buffer to replace verina in hsi team

[vapid river]

tbh i rarely use verina/skeeper with jinhsi

but i tried last night

550k crit in middle tower against rider

i didn't think my jank ass jinhsi could hit that without spectro and res skill buffs

like genuinely midhsi

the multipliers for res skill dmg must be carrying this

maybe i just go for s2 jinhsi and never have to worry about coord attacks ever again though

like this basically makes coord attacks worthless

[shut isle]

stupid question but i coudlnt find an answer, ik carlotta's ult is "considered as skill dmg", so does liberation dmg bonus% on substats do anything

[neat robin]

Nah the dmg% subs are for any type of talent thats causing that dmg

Ex. Jinhsi does ‘normals’ but its all skill dmg so you only need skill% subs

[shut isle]

so for her would basic dmg bonus subs just be actually a dead stat

or does it affect it at all if even a little

[neat robin]

I havent read her most recent kit wording ngl

I think you use some basics but the enhanced ones are skill%

You want cr cdmg atk% skill% er (idk how much to ult each rot) prob on most pieces

[placid holly]

Probably already know this but re: Jinhsi S2, "out of combat" =/= off-field. So it's a one-rotation per combat thing.
Still made TOA a lot easier though though by maxing out her first rotation (not that she has any trouble clearing at S0).

[vapid river]

ah i was using the two interchangeably

that's such a dogshit s2 then

ig my mind just goes "she's not currently in combat"

but ig if it's just your team being in combat in general then yeah

[placid holly]

It's not that bad because of all the one wave -> boss chambers and Jinhsi usually doesn't get max forte in her first rotation.
And it's pretty funny in overworld, since you can prep Incarnation and nuke every camp as you walk past.
But the more rotations you do per combat, the less valuable it is for sure.

[knotty fiber]

it doesn't
it's one-time

being off-field doesn't count as "out of combat"

[vapid river]

it'd be a lot cooler if it did though

[vapid river]

the only problem is overworld just isn't an issue enough to have an entire sequence dedicated to it 😭

just seems like overkill for no reason

though if it worked the way i thought it did that would defeat the purpose

since her kit is designed around coord

[knotty fiber]

there's a reason why I said other than S1 mark, Hsi is no match for Tsubaki

she loses at sigless, she loses at S0R1, she wins at S1R1, she loses the rest

[vapid river]

i can't wait to see s0 lotta with standard 5* gun hitting for 700k+

[knotty fiber]

she doesn't have any nuke

[vapid river]

oh?

[knotty fiber]

her dmg is spread

[vapid river]

[knotty fiber]

it's mostly skill dmg but there's no concentrated hit

[vapid river]

i wonder if that'll make people more likely to pull for her or not

[knotty fiber]

her skill is multi hits
her HA has only about 700% mv
and her ult's biggest hit also caps at 750% or so

[vapid river]

cuz big number make monke neuron brrs

[knotty fiber]

it's just her dmg in burst mode is big af

[vapid river]

https://tenor.com/bTFH6tz9f4E.gif

[knotty fiber]

she probably does like 5000% counting 1 skill usage

[vapid river]

how many hits are we talking about?

[knotty fiber]

just know it's about 4000% mv or so

oh wait actually less

since they nerfed her ult to buff her skill

[vapid river]

i just hope she's not fun to play

but it seems like she'll do a lot more dmg than camy

[knotty fiber]

more is likely

but a lot? idts

[vapid river]

even with new sets?

[knotty fiber]

yep

given they both have best supports

[vapid river]

isn't she getting a glacio set catered to her kit?

[knotty fiber]

Zz and Roccia

[vapid river]

are the buff values the same for both?

[knotty fiber]

the Tsubaki you are looking at right now is coping with Sanhua

[vapid river]

is it really that much of a cope though

[knotty fiber]

Roccia is gonna make a different story

it's cope compared to Roccia

[vapid river]

so if my camy is hitting 550k with sanhua how much of a difference will roach make?

600k?

650k?

it can't be that much of an upgrade

from s6 sanhua to s0 roach

[knotty fiber]

just look it up yourself if you say so

[vapid river]

+20% havoc and +25% basic vs +38% basic

meh

[knotty fiber]

you make it sound like 5* support's sell point is only to buff the dps

[vapid river]

okay roach's kit

aside from buffing

does look pretty cool

[neat robin]

Does roccia tornado thing suck enemies in

[vapid river]

yes

which is awesome

and when you outro the next resonator's utility turns into a cube that can be thrown

that does the same thing

[neat robin]

Eh

I’m gonna see what 2.1 leaks are

I want jiyan s3 and zani & maybe elf lady

[knotty fiber]

as good as her kit is

I don't like her

and my Tsubaki is S6

She is not in the need of power at any point in the game

[vapid river]

- When Roccia's Crit. Rate reaches 300, every 100 additional Crit. Rate increases all team members' ATK by 100 for undefineds upon casting Basic Attack Real Fantasy Stage 3. This effect can provide up to undefined additional ATK.```

okay

wtf is this nonsense all about

how is she reaching over 300 cr?

[knotty fiber]

typo as always

[vapid river]

fuckin hell

b/c nothing in her kit says that imagination gives her crit rate

[knotty fiber]

When her crit rate reaches 50%, for every 0.1% additional crate, increases the whole team's atk by 1, caps at 200

[vapid river]

ah

[knotty fiber]

that 300 is the imagination value

[vapid river]

that makes more sense

[knotty fiber]

they are known for misplacing numbers

here and there

all over beta versions

[vapid river]

ig her kit seems kinda nice

[knotty fiber]

lmfao

[vapid river]

but i still don't think it's worth to pull

10 dmg

fuego

[knotty fiber]

She is not lacking any power to begin with

and that's S0

[vapid river]

having double suck sounds kinda nice

[knotty fiber]

I'm considering pulling Zz but I also heard she's not Klt's final support

[vapid river]

but only for mob management

[knotty fiber]

so I'm reconsidering

[vapid river]

i'm still on the fence about zz

am i glad i pulled her? meh?

she's just there for heron

really

and anyone can do that

her ult dmg is laughable

but to get a glacio dps to buff properly is nice

[knotty fiber]

I hope they're cooking Fibi

She might get the S2 stamp from me

[opaque flume]

Ngl my one really big complaint about wuwa is the audio mixing is kinda dogshit

Also the music could be better idk

[edgy cobalt]

idk about audio mixing (don’t really care too much for it) but music isn’t anything crazy so I get that sentiment

[burnt shoal]

she does ult dmg?

[vapid river]

yeah you ult and swap and you see her drawings do dmg

it's not a lot

[edgy cobalt]

how come?

[vapid river]

i used to like her gameplay, but now it's just not doin it for me

[edgy cobalt]

ok yeah thats whatever to me

[vapid river]

she's still good for jinhsi, playing her is just eh

and she'll be wonderful for lotta

[edgy cobalt]

I don’t like how she plays and her character but I’m pulling her for jhsi AND lotta

[vapid river]

20% glacio and 25% res skill(or vice versa i can't remember)

you can't really go wrong with that + coord for jinhsi

idk if lotta will need that or not

[edgy cobalt]

yeah with those buffs for whole lotta jhsi its like
I don’t care if she’s the ugliest character I’ll pull her for those 2

[vapid river]

keep in mind, 107 knows something i don't

there might be peak coming

[edgy cobalt]

I mean

zz fits both jhsi and lotta so

and it means I don’t have to yinlin slave for jhsi 😂

I sure as hell ain’t gonna raise taoqi

[opaque flume]

I mean volume mixing is the biggest problem ngl

Some stuff is too loud

Some stuff is too quiet

I swear it changes every update

Is Carlotta or roccia good

[neat robin]

Both yes
Carla prob has more value just because camy+sanhua is already so strong (though camy+roccia will be even better)

[winged belfry]

Her total damage is thee best out of all off coordinated attack users

And it's going to be very hard to make a better support for Carlotta that ZZ

ZZ offers 3 things on outro.

Glacio DMG
Skill DMG
And Energy

Carlotta uses all 3

Not a single thing is wasted

Carlotta also needs to be played in a Hypercarry team, with no swapping and some hard downtime

So ZZ fits the best she can

[languid summit]

Carlotta 2.0.6

Base Kit
S0

• Ult multiplier buff changed from enhanced forte cast to having a full forte gauge. No longer have duration, only gone if swapping out during ult state, or ult state ends.

Sequence Changes
S1 (changed)

• Casting r.skill +30% glacio dmg Crit rate 12.5% on enemy with Disassociation debuff (previous S2 but half)
  S2 (new)
• Ult2 multiplier +126%
  S3 (buff)
• R.Skill multiplier +70% +93%
  S5 (buff)
• Multiplier change +40% +47%
  S6 (buff)
• Ult shot multiplier +169% +186%

Echo Set Change

• 5pc : casting r.skill +22.5% glacio dmg for 15s. Casting r.lib +18% r.skill dmg for 5s stackable 2x.

Pull Priority :

• S0 > Sig > (Zhezhi) > S1 > S2 > S3
  Forte Priority :
• Lib > Forte = Skill > Basic = Intro
  Team :
• Hypercarry : Zhezhi, Lumi, Taoqi, Sanhua, Yangyang
• Dual DPS : Changli, Yao, Jinhsi

In case you wanted some Carlotta buffs for Christmas.

[knotty fiber]

not ult2, ult3

[languid summit]

I didn't type this.

And I think most people consider Finale as 2nd ult.

If people need a visual aide.

[knotty fiber]

and that is just weird

[winged belfry]

Finale is last attack in sequence of her enhanced basics past liberation

[knotty fiber]

Era of the New Wave and Death Knell fighting over ult1 spot

lmfao

[languid summit]

I literally don't care what we call it.

[knotty fiber]

ok wait up

Now this multiplier thing is getting on me

Will S2's multiplier increase be additive or multiplicative to forte's buff?

I'm pretty sure from what we have had so far

it's all additive

[languid summit]

I don't know.

Finale is either 1900% MV or 2600% MV.

[edgy cobalt]

s0r1 over zz is erm

a move

[quasi sable]

how good is Carlotta gun

is it worth to pull or no

[vapid river]

i think every sig is ~15% increase in dmg or more so you do with that what you will

granted this is prydwen

but for your main dmg you should get the sig

[winged belfry]

Sig is usually 15% over standard is standard is Sword or Pistol, so crit weapon, and around 25% for Broadblade Gauntlets and Rectifier, since they have ATK has substat

[vapid river]

however if you have standard but no zz you should probably get zz

but if you're out here using a purple gun b/c you don't have static mist

i feel for you

damn there isn't another pistol that gives cr main other than static

that's tough

[winged belfry]

Meanwhile I have 4 standard weapon and probably will get 5th in 2.0

[vapid river]

i have 2

but i have a few sigs

by a few i mean 7

[winged belfry]

Oh, that's along 2 sigs

Jesus

7 sigs

[vapid river]

camy, jinhsi, skeeper, jiyan, xy, yinlin, zz

sword sig for sanhua and pistol for mort

[burnt shoal]

what me like in wuwa tho is that u can swap weapons in different teams in abyss

like i just use jinhsi weapon on jiyan

[winged belfry]

My XY, Yinlin and ZZ are without sigs

[burnt shoal]

me pulling for that 2.0 havoc gauntlet

[vapid river]

ye swapping is nice. i do that with cal to clear 1-3 for a side in tower

[burnt shoal]

so i can use it on new char

[winged belfry]

Changli as well, but I don't use Changli outside of Floor 1 and 2

[burnt shoal]

and xiangli yao

[vapid river]

i don't even have changli, didn't want her

[winged belfry]

Changli for me was a waifu pull

[vapid river]

what does it buff?

ye, i have a friend who s6r5'd changli cuz waifu

[winged belfry]

Definitely not worth meta wise

[vapid river]

they don't even play anymore

[winged belfry]

But she's top tier waifu wise

[burnt shoal]

do u think they will come back if u tell them changli will get a new skin

[vapid river]

nah

they lack space on mobile

not sure why they don't play on pc though

think they had it on an external and it broke or something so they can't be bothered

[languid summit]

Sig over Zhezhi for Carlotta specifically is assuming you have Lumi (I posted that info, but I didn't write it).

There's other factors for Zhezhi, though. If you have Jinhsi and you're also pulling Carlotta---pull Zhezhi.

[lyric fjord]

Its also assuming you already have static mist?

[languid summit]

Also that.

Lots of assumptions made.

[lyric fjord]

Is it possible to do her aerial combo, but actually not do the mid air attacks, to keep the invulnerability debuff? Like trigger this move just to dodge a long attack?

[neat robin]

Ew I just realized the update is thursday evening

I work friday I cant even play til fri afternoon

I’ll pull carla before I go to work & be sad I cant use her til after ig

[lament shuttle]

can you prefarm anything except the tears

[neat robin]

I have to wait for boss & overworld mob drops

[neat robin]

Tears exp & tuners

[vapid river]

[neat robin]

I dont think I have enough exp tubes but we usually get lots for free

[vapid river]

we usually get a fair amount

[neat robin]

I should have enough tears for carla + her sig

And I think I’m at 3.5m credits

I need to use my 2x drops for weapon xp now

[winged belfry]

Wtf is tears?

[vapid river]

these are tears

if i had to guess

[winged belfry]

Is it that hard them to call them pistol mats?

[vapid river]

idt difficulty has anything to do with it. probably easier to call them "tears" over "pistold mats". fewer characters

though i could be wrong about what tears are, i'm only using the picture ninjy sent as context

[neat robin]

Yeah those things

I can also call them phlohistons as the actual name but idc

[warped willow]

i have never seen those in the game before

[neat robin]

Only ever needed them for mort & standard gun before

Who you dont build if you didnt pull jiyan

[opaque flume]

I think this might be enough

[neat robin]

Should be

It was around 85 ish of the gold ones

[rotund drum]

arr rook same

its not as bad as the genshit gems at least

i literally cant tell them apart and the names dont really help either

[dusty crown]

Didn't follow the beta tc at all but how's carlotta looking in terms of dps

Relatively to cam and hsi

(I know she's mostly ST)

[vapid river]

higher

[neat robin]

I cant wait to nuke bosses

Carla is perfe t for this current tower with 3 waves of 1 enemy each

[vapid river]

oh do you mean for middle?

was gonna say glacio was just scar

but yeah for inferno

[neat robin]

I suffered with jinhsi

She decided she didnt wanna crit that day

[vapid river]

happens

[vapid river]

do you know

if these chests come back randomly?

or if these do too?

b/c ik i've gotten that chest before

and i've done this trial

[wintry heath]

the trials have multiple difficulties

[vapid river]

ye i've done the advanced before

it's the same one as i'm doing now

[wintry heath]

you mustve misremembered idk

genshin used to have a chest respawn rumor as well

i strongly doubt wuwa would do it for real

[vapid river]

well i beat the challenge again but no chest

[wintry heath]

well yes thats how it works

[vapid river]

i thought those were supposed to disappear after you've done them

strange

[wintry heath]

nope u can redo all of them infinitely

maybe ur thinking of the limited time parkour event trials, cause those disappeared

[vapid river]

yeah ik those ones disappear

ig the bug ones don't disappear

so that makes sense

nah something weird is going on

i've fished this guy's shit outta the water before too

[wintry heath]

do u have multiple accounts?

[vapid river]

not that i actively play on no

i rerolled a lot

like 50+ times

but none of them, except for one other, would have gotten even close to that

and i haven't been on that one in months

[wintry heath]

i think ur just misremembering lol

i just refuse to believe theres renewable premium currency in any gacha tbh 😔

[vapid river]

surely the time is now

[wintry heath]

considering that 2.0 will allegedly give f2p players 160-180 pulls, I dont think its necessary

but i hope ur right i guess, would be nice

[vapid river]

it's like 189?

189.1 or something dumb

[wintry heath]

that was an incorrect total

it was updated to 156

[vapid river]

oh

wack

scam

well 189.1 for me

cuz i have welkin and i'll get bp

[wintry heath]

ill be getting 9 months of welkin once 2.0 drops, idk about the bp

although.. crit rate gauntlets would be nice..

[vapid river]

you mean these?

[wintry heath]

yes..

[vapid river]

should have just pulled for these

[wintry heath]

oh no the passive is too good for xiangli yao

[wintry heath]

im f2p at the moment, i tried

[vapid river]

ah

happens

[wintry heath]

yeah

the only limited weapon i have is jinhsis

camellya was the first time i won a 50/50

if i had won one more i wouldve been able to get xiangli yaos weapon but idk if i wouldve been willing to spend astrite tbh, i just spent the free weapon pulls for it

[vapid river]

it definitely helps his dmg

i managed a 321k nuke

the only downside is i can't clear with yinlin on heron set even if my xy is doing more dmg

[neat robin]

Panda guy spawns randomly in a few locations with mini quests

[lilac hare]

Freetrite when

[quasi sable]

What's the duration of the patch

[winged belfry]

Probably standard 7 weeks. Since 1.1 all patches were 7 weeks long.

[blissful tulip]

It's 6 weeks, they want to speed up to 6 months per major update

https://vxtwitter.com/Legend0777/status/1872270639001960628

[burnt shoal]

is wuwa and genshin updates going to be around the same day from now

[warped willow]

i love hsorekeper

[rotund drum]

wuwa about to get buried by mavulka

[neat robin]

Carlotta is so much better than mav

And also a whole new region

I’m playing genshin on the 1st then right back to wuwa after update on the 2nd

[barren drift]

anybody knows what carlotta will scale on?

like

b attack, h attack or just plain atk cr cd?

the once in a blue moon piece 🔥

[sweet coral]

Bro I’m still not getting good echoes for my XLY

At least he’s now critting now that I got his signature

[neat robin]

Cr cdmg atk, some er to ult, mostly skill%

Afaik

[sweet coral]

I think some liberation could be good for her two nukes

[winged belfry]

I don't know. among the people that play both, I've generally seen more excitement towards Wuwa 2.0 then Genshin 5.3

[sweet coral]

Yeah a whole new area is more exciting than just a playable character

[rotund drum]

i think the char matters more than the area tbh

genshit also added a new zone in the last update i think

but no one played it because the banner char was so boring

probs not unrealistic to expect people to be waiting for mavulka before doing it

i am

[neat robin]

I liked the new area I had it complete in the first couple days

I literally have nothing to do in 5.3 except burn stam until lantern event starts halfway thru

[winged belfry]

Then WuWa has really good characters in 2.0

Carlotta is highly anticipated

[neat robin]

Carlotta >>>>> mavuika agreed

Then brant & zani after? So good

[winged belfry]

And a lot people talk about her constalations/sequence

[rotund drum]

carlotta is cute enough i guess but shes also kinda generic

gun girl with an ar-15

[winged belfry]

So they will either pull a lot, or drop the coral on them

[rotund drum]

i can just play blue archive if i want that

[opaque flume]

You don’t know yet

We haven’t really met her

In riniscita yet

It might be good

Idk

[rotund drum]

it also doesnt help that wuwa kits are short novels so no one wants to try to parse then pre-release

[winged belfry]

it's more like smoothbore

[rotund drum]

or post-release even

[opaque flume]

Ngl I have no clue what my characters do