・wuwa-lounge

[winged belfry]

There is no EN version so far

and there probably won't be

So we rely on homebrewed translation, either machine, or done by people who speak Chinese

[south briar]

curses

foiled again

[winged belfry]

I use this
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rXThniDCfNZ-t9U4unb0gmT_QQrnaC_NkyCARVVB8Ho/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.xoqzxn2jwqlp
Translated by someone who know both Chinese, and Wuwa terminology

[vapid river]

i used xy on the last floor on the right side and cleared it first try

he's so much easier to play than carrot

[blissful tulip]

Difficulty starting to become a bit cheaper on 2-2

Otherwise everything is about as usual

[vapid river]

@neat robin does xy want both ele% or atk/ele for lingering tunes?

from what i've seen on reddit it's ele/ele

[small bronze]

new tower

[vapid river]

lacking a bit of cr but hopefully the two other LT echoes i need give me more

[vapid river]

i'll take it

[languid summit]

If they can keep her within an acceptable range between Jinhsi and Camellya (even if she's stronger) she may just be perfection.

[neat robin]

Ele/ele yeah
For 5 tunes or 2/2 build

[vapid river]

just need 1 more tunes

[neat robin]

Ive been running 2/2 build since he dropped lol

80/245 build though I have a cdmg mech in storage
Waiting to see 2.0 echos I think

[vapid river]

the only thing i don't like about my cdmg mech is the flat atk

ignoring the flat hp

[neat robin]

I’ll be spending so much time rebuilding yinlin zz mort…

[vapid river]

i cba

[neat robin]

I guess mort does like. Negative dmg
But if coord set is better buffs than moon heron I need to farm

[vapid river]

ye, if i have to refarm sets for my dps i will

my supp/sub dps will stay where they're at

[neat robin]

It honestly depends on what buff the coord set 4cost gives

Moonlit atk buff + dmg buff echo

Song coord and slightly smaller atk buff

Yinlin will really want this one I think

[vapid river]

yeah as long as it's not necessary for tower i won't be farming them

[neat robin]

Having a 78/270 yinlin makes me cry
But shes like the only coord sdps that does significant dmg

idk about zz, my build is good but she doesnt seem to do much

[vapid river]

i think with coord set she'll be good

it's really the ult of hers that does dmg

my yinlin is 80/273

but she's so atk starved

1878

oh her wep isn't even 90

i should probably level that

[neat robin]

Her sig is lowest atk for 5* weapons anyways

Mines in 1.9k range with lv90

[vapid river]

ye that's where mine would be too

missing 61 atk

so might be pushing 2k after the increase in base atk

[vapid river]

okay this is insane

prydwen on some shit

[winged belfry]

Sanhua is just that good

[knotty fiber]

It's only because she's in the best comp rn lol

She's not even as versatile as Changli

If the expert tag indicates Changli can be higher, then it's acceptable

[languid summit]

The expert tag means if you can play her she can be one tier above where she's placed.

Which means for those capable of it she's a T0 hybrid.

[winged belfry]

Expert tag suggests that she is shit if you aren't playing her with fram perfect swap cancels

[knotty fiber]

Good

[winged belfry]

Which already means she has reached her peak, as no support will be able to buff her

unless they release a target buffer, that will be able to buff her enough to offset the MV/s loss you get when running her without swap cancels

[vapid river]

keep in mind aalto has expert tag and he's in the very last tier

also why would you want to buff changli?

she's not dmg

well not main dmg

that'd be liking wanting someone to buff yinlin or zz

seems kinda pointless

[winged belfry]

She ain't a support either

[vapid river]

she's sub dps

[winged belfry]

she has Navia problem

[vapid river]

i think you just want her to be primary damage dealer so you're holding onto hope

[winged belfry]

is that why people prefer Yae over Fischl?

Oh wait, they don't

[vapid river]

i don't play genshin

your comparison means nothing

[winged belfry]

sub-dps need appropriately low field time requirements

[vapid river]

isn't that the opposite of changli? i don't have her since her gameplay didn't really feel rewarding

doesn't she need tons of field time

[winged belfry]

She needs roughly 10-12s to charge up Concerto

[vapid river]

that's reasonable

[winged belfry]

That is a lot

Sanhua does it in 6

lower than that if you are a pro

[vapid river]

she sounds about the same as zz

at least my zz is out for about that long

like past first cycle in tower

initially she's not out for that long

[winged belfry]

like, even Jinhsi can charge concerto twice in two subrotations faster than that

[vapid river]

are changli's buffs at least compensated in some way for being on field longer? as in are they better than zz's or yinlin's

aside from echo set what does changli do

[winged belfry]

She has same buffs like Yinlin, just Fusion

Liberation and Fusion DMG%

[vapid river]

she's just slower

are her mods better for skills so she does more dmg than yinlin?

[winged belfry]

more damage? Hard to say

[vapid river]

if there's no actual edge to using her, even at expert level, why bother?

if the time loss is that impactful to clearing

[winged belfry]

She has it condesnsed in shorted time frame, not spread over entire rotation like Yinlin has with her coordinated attacks

[vapid river]

sounds like i dodged a bullet

[winged belfry]

But she has much less AoE than Yinlin

[vapid river]

i have a friend who s6r5d her

[winged belfry]

Yeah, she is a waifu pull

[vapid river]

actually is there an sX where she's good?

[winged belfry]

Nothing else really

[vapid river]

like something in her sequences that fixes her

or is she just cooked

[winged belfry]

I mean

Her biggest issue doesn't lie with her

It's in the lack of Fusion Xiangli Yao

She has no one to pair with

[vapid river]

ah, she just doesn't have a good fusion dmg dealer to battery with

shame

encore is dogshit

and other than her there's what

chixia?

[winged belfry]

concept of battery doesn't really exist here

[vapid river]

not in the sense you're thinking

think pitcher/catcher

from baseball

[winged belfry]

ok

[vapid river]

who is the new fusion coming out in 2.x?

surely there's one if glacio is getting a dps

[winged belfry]

But right now her best teammates are Encore, and Chixia

[winged belfry]

Brandt

[vapid river]

oof

honestly so glad i avoided fusion

[winged belfry]

But leaks say that he is support/healer hybrid

[vapid river]

fusion starving

[winged belfry]

Yeah

[vapid river]

zani is spectro right?

i can't wait

[winged belfry]

We don't know

most leaks mention her as Electro

[vapid river]

i hate that

[knotty fiber]

The most recent one being electro but no idea

[winged belfry]

so far we only have 3.0 and 3.1 semi confirmed

[knotty fiber]

Sussy

If she's spectro then idt she's gonna be dps

[winged belfry]

so Carlotta Glacio and Rocco Havoc

[vapid river]

brandt fusion

[knotty fiber]

Fibi spectro

[vapid river]

ah

[winged belfry]

And Brant Fusion Phoebe Spectro

[vapid river]

pheobe being spectro makes more sense

design wise

[neat robin]

Confirmed. Carla glacio, roccia havoc
Leaks. brant fusion, phoeb spectro, elf aero

I think?

[vapid river]

who is the elf?

[winged belfry]

There are like 2 elfs

[knotty fiber]

Katixiya

[vapid river]

ah

yeah not interested

easy skip

unless she buffs jiyan better than mort

[knotty fiber]

I like her face and body ratio but can't with the fucking outfit

I'm so done with the fanservice shit

[neat robin]

She like. The only one lol

[vapid river]

yinlin, changli, camy

[neat robin]

The rest of the girls are fine . Brant is more fanservice than any of them

I mean from 2.x

[knotty fiber]

Not gonna mention SK?

Lmfao

[vapid river]

sk isn't a person

[knotty fiber]

Bitch has her boobs exposed

[vapid river]

her personality is so meh

i don't even look at her when i use her

if she wasn't the only other good healer/buffer

i wouldn't have pulled

[neat robin]

I like her attacks

[vapid river]

and i can't fucking stand youhu's playstyle

yeah, the butterflies are neat

[neat robin]

Wasted space theme on a off field char

I dont even notice the butterflies ngl
I love the purple&blue

Carla yes. Roccia is a skip cuz sanhua exists. Brant is a probably skip depending on role. Zani must-pull. Phoebe skip. Elf… idk depends if she is aero support

[knotty fiber]

If I'm a betting person, she's gonna have jiggle physics with her next-to-nonexistent chest

[vapid river]

but yeah, it's not even the "fanservice" from the elf that i don't like. i just don't like her outfit

[knotty fiber]

Like Tsubaki

[vapid river]

stupid dress is stupid

does she even have shoes?

i hate it when they don't have shoes

[neat robin]

Maybe sandals

[vapid river]

nah every female character has heels in this game

wedges or some shit

well i can't speak for changli, i've never actually looked at her and i don't own her

same with lumi

but all of the ones i do have wear heels

[neat robin]

Verina with the crocs

I think chixia is boots

[knotty fiber]

Ever since Nikki's release, my playtime on HSR and Wuwa plummeted to 0

[vapid river]

oh maybe the two kid characters don't

[vapid river]

boots with heels

[knotty fiber]

[vapid river]

bro wants to collect dresses?

[neat robin]

Boots have heels yes. Thats normal

[vapid river]

nothing wrong with that

[knotty fiber]

What's wrong with a woman collecting dresses

[vapid river]

oh

[neat robin]

I tried nikki and mobile controls are ass. Wasnt ready to be released on mobile yet

[vapid river]

fair

[knotty fiber]

I mean I have a lot of male friends playing it too

[winged belfry]

All character have jiggle physics, even Jiyan

[knotty fiber]

Nikki is terrible on mobile

[vapid river]

i've heard that

[knotty fiber]

UE5™️

[vapid river]

like unbearable

[winged belfry]

well maybe aside from verina and yuku

[knotty fiber]

For people that are used to low performance settings then it's not bad

But for me it's terrible

Fps locked at 30

💀

Ultra quality worse than PC's high

[neat robin]

No its shit. And half the environment is missing

[winged belfry]

I think I'm going to build Chixia, after I'm done with Carlotta

[vapid river]

nah verina has heels too

[knotty fiber]

I tried Nikki on my iPad M4 and was like

No

I won't

[neat robin]

You know these are like. Most real life shoes?

If boots: heel

[vapid river]

yes

i'm aware

but there are shoes that exist w/o heels

is my whole point

[neat robin]

Idk then. I dont consider those heels when my winter boots have a ‘heel’
Its just cuz it goes up under your arch instead of being a solid rubber sole

[vapid river]

like does skeeper really need heels?

or yinlin

like chixia and sanhua

even taoqi

it makes sense

they're wearing boots

but who wants to fight in heels

sounds awful

[neat robin]

At least sk floats

Same as genshin and a lot of hsr females too

[vapid river]

idt i've ever looked at the feet of anyone in genshin

not sure why i did for wuwa tbh

i think i wanted to see who the taller people were

but everyone's wearing heels to some extent

[vapid river]

where are jiyan's jiggle physics? for uhh science

[winged belfry]

and where do you think it is?

[vapid river]

i've never seen his chest move

not in a jiggly way

[opaque flume]

Ngl skeepers shoes are really cool so she gets a pass

[winged belfry]

More I think about Carlotta's rotation, less I understand

[neat robin]

Dont think button mash I have no idea she just looks fun

I found a solo rot

Not sure about sk/veri zz carla team rot though
28s is long ass field time

[opaque flume]

I’m ngl this is what I was hoping for with a gun dps

This looks fire

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/oiiaoiia-doro-dorothy-nikke-gif-14611769257197171688

[quasi sable]

is there info about estimated pulls in this patch and next patch?

[winged belfry]

That thing is like 20s

And it's absurd

[neat robin]

Hmm

[vapid river]

i kinda like the second one more

~80 less atk, ~4% less cdmg for ~15% cr and ~12% heavy dmg

[neat robin]

I need him to rerun in a dry patch to grab s3

[knotty fiber]

It has 4% less crate lol

[languid summit]

Yeah I'd probably take the one on the left just for the ER/Atk. Assuming both of these are 2x Aero DMG echoes.

Coincidentally that's more or less where I'm at (but I'm Lvl 80 because I haven't quite hit UL 60 yet).

[neat robin]

Yeah aero/awro

[languid summit]

I like how he still holds up well at this stage. I know there's a perception that he got creeped, but he didn't. He's still very much in the mix.

[vapid river]

oh oops i switched those around

[neat robin]

Ik what you meant

[vapid river]

ye

[neat robin]

Left is atk cr er +
Right is cdmg heavy +

I think i’ll keep the lil extra cr until I can get s3

[vapid river]

yeah i don't really have to worry too much about cr anymore

just e once

or ult

or intro

and if i played him with skeeper

[neat robin]

Id be 93/330 or sum

[vapid river]

that's on top of skeeper buffs yeah?

[neat robin]

Yeah sk and s3

I like him with sk more

[vapid river]

mine would be over 100% cr

and 324.6cdmg

hmmge

maybe i could try with skeeper instead of verina

[quasi sable]

guys

I understand why you guys rec me get SK for camellya

shes quite vulnerable

[lucid pebble]

Actually paper.

smh my head.

[neat robin]

Yee may have lost 3cr but +20 atk +10 skill%

[vapid river]

10% skill% is worth it

[vapid river]

what does your xy ult dmg look like?

not the enhanced skills but the nuke dmg from ult

mine hit for either 190k or 209k

i'm guessing the lower hit is w/o the mech atk% buff

i rolled this just to get out of the 2/2 and just go 5 LT

so i lost 15% cdmg

and 30% electro

but i'm thinking the 30% atk counters that a little

[neat robin]

Yeah somewhere between 185-220k ive seen between tower buff sk vs verina as 3rd

[vapid river]

yeah that's with verina

haven't tried skeeper

[neat robin]

Mine is built so I can use him with either

80/245 build

Instead of like 65/270

Cuz I prefer jiyan/camy sk more than xy sk

[vapid river]

ye just got a 225k with verina

i'll probably just leave her with him

since i'll only ever be using them on one floor together

but just hit 265k with skeeper

holy shit he melts with skeeper

not even on ults but on skill/enhanced skills

6.4% res lib dmg

i really need cr on that second 3cost echo

yeah this oddly feels better with skeeper

yeah way easier to hit 248k-265k with skeeper

fucking nuts

[neat robin]

I really need to get mine onto 5tunes but I’m lazy

[vapid river]

mine needs way more er

or maybe it's b/c my skeeper

and my yinlin

both have insane amounts

and aren't on field for very long

my yinlin is at like 248

and my skeeper is 256?

[vapid river]

this

is fucking disgusting

i just left, i didn't even finish the fight

[neat robin]

Ok yinlin does not need er lol

Shes to e n4 e hold and outro

[vapid river]

it literally just got rolled on all her echoes

😭

she does get to do all that though

she just always has ult

[neat robin]

Mine is 127 er ish and ults basically every rot

Moonlit

[vapid river]

i just never cared to fix her echoes

ah

mine is on vt

damn

my xy could be doing more dmg

which is insane to think about

almost 290k crit

[neat robin]

I think highest I saw been 300k in tower but some of it just depends on floor buff

[vapid river]

ye, i timed the res skill buff

since it only lasts for four second

i kinda though hitting e right away and building up

made the first stack fall

and i think i was right

[neat robin]

I wanna test mine on my cdmg mech

[vapid river]

wait mephis doesn't even buff the next resonator

why did i ever put her on vt set?

[neat robin]

But def gonna want sk with him
I raged so much in overdrive trying 65/270 build with veri

He missed like 3 ults in a row

[vapid river]

oh tbf i'm on right side of the tower

not middle

oof

yeah, 58% really doesn't feel like a coinflip

[neat robin]

The resetting tower or overdrive?

[vapid river]

feels like it misses more than not

oh

i've already finished overdrive

i'd rather not do that again

[neat robin]

I did overdrive 3 times

Testing xy veri / xy sk / jiyan teams then after camy released

[vapid river]

my teams

and honestly

shit was easy

except for jinhsi

but mainly cuz skill issue and dying

no heals

and yinlin/zz are kinda squishy

[neat robin]

I’m

Pretty sure (I cant check rn)

I did overdrive middle with xy yinlin first floor, camy sanhua second (and veri or sk with each)

And then jiyan team first on right tower, xy team second floor

[vapid river]

i wanted to do each side with just a single team

since after getting camy i kinda fleshed out my dps

since cal/xy were just like

not good

[knotty fiber]

[vapid river]

but i'm pretty happy with my xy rn

almost 290k(even with buffs from tower) was way more than i expected to get

[vapid river]

yinlin on heron/ml set

@neat robin i'm starting to believe

[vapid river]

so the most i could get on the monkey in the middle was 266k

but i can't beat it in under 2 minutes

[lucid pebble]

Chat

I forgor doing last tower.

[vapid river]

even though they're easy

and you're a whale

[neat robin]

Ive been a firm xy believer since day 1

[lucid pebble]

[neat robin]

Lumi tomorrow hopefully

[vapid river]

prayge

[neat robin]

Only putting in. Max 20 pulls cuz I need carla and sig

Lumi just looks so fun for overworld

[vapid river]

okay so i can clear it when yinlin is on her vt set

but not when she's on zz's moonlit

i only want lumi for collector reasons tbh

she was kinda fun to play

good to know i have options though

first tower i didn't actually need jinhsi for

[neat robin]

Yeah I mean ik she can do decent dmg but my moonlit set is so invested on her

Will be refarming coord dmg & team buff for her though

[knotty fiber]

I have been letting Jinhsi do low floors lol

compared to other comps she's so boring to play

and I hate gamba crit with her

[neat robin]

Yesss

???? Shes a 4* with cr fortes

Awesome

[quasi sable]

whats lumi role

[vapid river]

fat ass

[quasi sable]

BRO NO WAY

MY BIRTHDAY MIRACLE IS REAL

[vapid river]

nice

i did a 10 pull and got the same

only it was lingyang

not that i need xy s2

but it would have been nice to get a jianxin or an encore

@neat robin do you think this is a sign to get glacio gun gal

[quasi sable]

i mean i wasnt there when xy was free

[vapid river]

s4 lingyang might make him best sub dps

[quasi sable]

a scottish mouse girl with fat ass

[vapid river]

i play with jp voice

she doesn't sound scottish at all

[quasi sable]

try listen en voice

[vapid river]

i've heard it

she's cute

[quasi sable]

she has scottish accent

reminds me Korsica

[neat robin]

You dont have zz?

[vapid river]

i do

oh wait

[neat robin]

Zz outro is literally meant for carla

[vapid river]

damn it's just a better lingyang s4

[neat robin]

Oh hey lumi is skill% outro too
I dont think her mouse attacks off field though

[vapid river]

ye

i was thinking she might be okay for jinhsi

but idt she has any coord

so probably not

[neat robin]

I’m at 40 pity and even though I really want more xy I need to save for s0r1 carla

[quasi sable]

oh

lumi is buffer?

[vapid river]

her outro is 38% res skill dmg amp for 10s

but her ult has no utility

just for dmg

[quasi sable]

I hope i wont lose on carlotta and sk

[vapid river]

it's possible

i've only lost 4 50s

well i wasn't even trying to win this one

[languid summit]

Lumi has the same buff for skill that Sanhua does for basics.

[vapid river]

i just wanted to get lumi

[languid summit]

Only her concerto gains aren't as fast.

[vapid river]

this lingyang came at like 24 pity

wasn't expecting it

[neat robin]

Lumi has decent sequences too

S1 gives her more stam for her yellow mode

There was a 100% basic buff in s4 ish range

[small bronze]

okay i did 40 pulls cause i had 0 pity lumi didnt wanna come even once im not touching the banners more

[vapid river]

surely one more 10 pull doesn't fuck anything up

[small bronze]

building pity

[vapid river]

i ended up doing five 10 pulls. got her s4

but i don't really want any more cons for xy so i stopped

[vapid river]

though 30% more cdmg on this would be nutty

[neat robin]

s4 lumi … 😔

I got 1 yuanwu 2 baizhi 1 lumi

[vapid river]

ye, all her skill dmg gets converted into basic dmg right?

[neat robin]

Wait how many xy do you have lol

[vapid river]

he's s1

i picked up a copy on his initial run

like it would have been icing to get his s2 instead of lingyang

but i wasn't really trying to get it

he came at like 24 pity

[neat robin]

I want moreeee

[vapid river]

and i would have done the same amount of pulls otherwise

[neat robin]

I need carlotta so badly though

[vapid river]

are you just going for s0r1?

[neat robin]

Yeah

I dont wanna stick her on standard pistol. Hers is so good

[languid summit]

Do we have the info for her weapon?

[neat robin]

Its been sent in here before…

[languid summit]

72% crit damage or something.

I just don't remember the passive.

Or if they ever leaked it.

Oh I see it now.

[neat robin]

Ah here

[languid summit]

Gracias.

Yeah that's a definite pull.

[neat robin]

Much better than energy and buffing next char lol

[languid summit]

I've got roughly 160 pulls saved for Carlotta/Zhezhi. I'll swipe a bit for S2R1 Carlotta and S0 Zhezhi.

I should have enough corals for one of her sequences so should only need to pull S1.

[neat robin]

s0r1 carla s0 zz before going for carla dupes though

[languid summit]

Yeah exactly.

[neat robin]

I didnt think carla had great sequences anyways

[languid summit]

First 2 are pretty solid. S5 is meme-worthy.

S6 actually immobilizes enemies so that's interesting.

3 crystals restored, 30% Glacio DMG bonus, and 30 concerto for S1 and 15% CR and 20% CD to debuffed enemies for S2.

Having almost 30% CR between her and Shorekeeper works for me.

[neat robin]

I’m getting s0 carla
I wanna see what zani playstyle is before I pick one to get dupes of

[languid summit]

Yeah that's fair. I'm all in on the gunplay, though.

[quasi sable]

This is first gun dps right

I want to pull her and sk

[vapid river]

chixia

and aalto

[neat robin]

Well first 5* gun

[vapid river]

but they're hardly worth mentioning

yeah, first 5* gun

[languid summit]

@tawny junco So I don't put this in a channel it shouldn't be in. This is the limited that's dropping in 2.0 which is the same day it launches on PS5.

[tawny junco]

Oh she looks pretty good

[neat robin]

Gun & ice

[tawny junco]

VA sounds very familiar

[languid summit]

Yoimiya's VA.

[tawny junco]

Ah yeah okay it's exactly who I thought it was

Yeh Yoimiya/Rin

[languid summit]

More than likely 2.0 is going to have a Jinhsi rerun and then probably Changli. I'd consider them the 2 prizes from the early game.

[neat robin]

Changli is whatever

You have to enjoy her playstyle

[languid summit]

Blasphemous.

But yeah he's right. She looks amazing and her play style is fun (for me).

[tawny junco]

I'll see

[neat robin]

I love her animations but couldnt get past her combat

[tawny junco]

It's nice that Genshin 5.3 doesn't have exploration so I could start WuWa when it drops on PS5 right away

[languid summit]

I only started about 2 months ago so I missed them all, too.

[tawny junco]

Still don't know if I'll stick with it long-term but we'll see o:

Depends on when Ananta releases maybe and how much I like that game

[languid summit]

Gacha GTA 6. Nice.

[vapid river]

ananta looks good

[neat robin]

1.0 story is skippable, 1.1 & 1.2 were much better, 1.4 I skipped
Encore story worth it

[tawny junco]

Playing 3 openworld gachas would be too much

[vapid river]

encore story was actually good

[tawny junco]

That's a full time job

[neat robin]

Wuwa doesnt take your time

[knotty fiber]

1.4 was a downslope

[tawny junco]

Is the exploration that short?

[knotty fiber]

[neat robin]

Once you explore you can spend 10 min a day and farm

[knotty fiber]

Man

[tawny junco]

Well yeah that's Genshin too

But once you start doing exploration on multiple of them it's a lot of time

[neat robin]

Oh no like the exploration takes a while but they also tell you to touch grass if you spend too long

[languid summit]

Lol they do.

[knotty fiber]

I quit almost everything

My friend plays Ww and HSR for me now

[tawny junco]

Oh nah I'm still enjoying? Genshin... sorta kinda

[knotty fiber]

Now I'm occupied by Nikki and Limbus

[tawny junco]

Or maybe I'd say I'm too invested to quit now, wanna see the end of AQ I guess

[languid summit]

I'm all in for the combat in these games and Wuwa clears. So that's why I'm here.

[tawny junco]

Shorekeeper is so hot, at least I think that's her name man....

[knotty fiber]

Wuwa's combat is kinda okay

But the lore flips me off

[tawny junco]

Oh yeah I believe it, Genshin combat is not very exciting. WuWa looks a lot more fun in terms of combat

[neat robin]

Ive tried hi3 pgr & aether gazer but I dont enjoy that stage combat
Gotta be open world like wywa and genshin at least

[knotty fiber]

And HSR's clothing is fucking boring now

[neat robin]

The blue veil is skeeper yeah

[knotty fiber]

They keep repeating their trademark bullshit

[tawny junco]

The outfits?

[languid summit]

Yeah having true range, gap closing, parries, dodging, etc. is very nice.

[neat robin]

Luofu girls?

[knotty fiber]

Yes

[knotty fiber]

Even herta and aglaea

[tawny junco]

Genshin has the same issue imo, might just be a Hoyoverse thing

[languid summit]

Carlotta's gap closer is so smooth. That flip over their head while firing her gun downwards is chefs kiss.

[knotty fiber]

I quit Genshit a while ago

But yes

Genshit has a lot of repetitive patterns

[tawny junco]

Carlotta looks good, gameplay seems fun from what you showed me

[knotty fiber]

Just not the HSR way

I hate the HSR way more

[neat robin]

Heres carlotta + roccia
(Carla main dps, roccia is support for camy /havoc dps)

[tawny junco]

How bad is WuWa arti farming?

[knotty fiber]

It... depends

For me

It's terrible

[tawny junco]

Will it make me want to quit the game the way Genshin's arti farming does?

[knotty fiber]

Because my luck at getting high crit roll sucks

Or the game is rigged

[neat robin]

You can farm as many as you want
The tuning part can suck
If you arent trying to max sub each one its fine

[tawny junco]

Oh actually unlimited farming?

Okay

[neat robin]

I have so many 6 cr 12 cdmg because id rather build more chars than minmax each

[knotty fiber]

Nope

[languid summit]

Not quite.

[neat robin]

Unlimited farming, limited upgrading

[knotty fiber]

You can farm for the base

But to upgrade you need waveplate

Well, resin

[languid summit]

Well that's changing.

Every 5* is going to drop at level 5.

[neat robin]

But like you could go horde 200 ele% mains to roll whenever you want to farm mats for

[knotty fiber]

Pretty sure tuner is the issue and not xp

[languid summit]

So you'll have upgrade fodder. Just need to farm the tuners.

[knotty fiber]

Xp is trivial to me now

[neat robin]

Tunes are the issue for sure

[knotty fiber]

I have way too many tubes

[languid summit]

Have to imagine they know that and will address it at some point.

They've been really good at making relevant improvements even since I started playing.

[knotty fiber]

Apparently they wanna keep the tuner refund at 30%

Lol

30% is idk

I have been complaining since day 1

[neat robin]

If fields dropped 40 instead of 20 id be much happier

Tuners ^

[knotty fiber]

Ppl thought Kuro throwing dog treats (the resource event) at them will solve it

It's just temporary

It changed nothing in the long rum

[languid summit]

It's better than needing crystal flies and being restricted to only resin farming.

[neat robin]

Yeah I get to 200 tuners and run out in like 10 mins of going through inventory

[knotty fiber]

That's why I wanted the tuner refund to go up

[neat robin]

But I like I can collect all the echos first whenever I want

[knotty fiber]

30% is fucking crazy

[knotty fiber]

Thing is

"Echo storage limit"

[languid summit]

Being able to get double drops without a consumable feels so nice but how it isn't like this everywhere is beyond me.

[knotty fiber]

[neat robin]

Scrap all your unneeded mains to databank

[languid summit]

Have to farm for flies so I can condense my resin.

[neat robin]

There is no ‘max storage’ if you dont horde useless stuff

[knotty fiber]

One day you'll realize how little 2000 is with this system

[neat robin]

Ive been below 500 this entire time
And at that point ~200 were marked to discard

[knotty fiber]

You're always gated by tuners while keep getting new echoes with even actively farming

[tawny junco]

I do hate this as well

Crystalfly trap was a joke

[knotty fiber]

It's idk

Like why

[languid summit]

Kuro had the benefit of seeing the mistakes made in Genshin and correcting a good portion of them.

Not all of them.

[knotty fiber]

I complained about it and some ppl in genshit still managed to stand up and defended it

Why?

Genshit had a lot of good things they made that became a formula for other gacha games to adopt

[languid summit]

Your artifacts in Wuwa are actually a combat or exploration mechanic, too.

[knotty fiber]

But crystalfly is definitely not one

[neat robin]

Yeah crystal trap was useless

[languid summit]

You know how you paid for Xilo and she can run up walls? Every unit can do that in Wuwa at base.

Sprinting also doesn't consume stamina out of combat.

We're going to be able to fly in 2.0.

[neat robin]

Ok I heard that leak too

[knotty fiber]

Soaring

[neat robin]

A second type of wingglider I guess

[knotty fiber]

Need an item

[languid summit]

I don't think we're Superman'ing this shit, but this is still cool.

[tawny junco]

I didn't pay for Xilo tho :( but yeah

Her wall climbing outside of Natlan is shit anyway

[knotty fiber]

Xilo 🚮

[languid summit]

You'll also be able to change your BG music.

They're adding ray tracing.

Kuro is cooking for sure.

[knotty fiber]

I don't care about RT so there's that

[tawny junco]

For the ps5 pro? lmao

[languid summit]

Lol that I don't know.

I'm on a 4090 so 120FPS/ray tracing isn't unnoticed by me.

[knotty fiber]

I'm using 4070TiS
I do use 120fps but not RT

Mine can run it but not neccessary

[neat robin]

I got 30 fps

[languid summit]

Lol nice.

[knotty fiber]

Looking at how far ww has gone with optimizing the performance makes me hope the same thing for Nikki

Nikki's performance rn is terrible
Worse than day 1 wuwa

[neat robin]

I could play on 60 but my ipad is old and angry at my settings

Mobile nikki was shit. I started crashing & just deleted it

[knotty fiber]

It's bad in every aspect

Fps locked at 30
Graphics is mediocre: ultra mobile looks worse than PC medium

And has texture issues

[neat robin]

I hate they advertise games able to play mobile but then its like ‘only if you have one of these specific 3 devices released this year lol gl’

[knotty fiber]

Mobile is literally their main target audience

But

UE5

[neat robin]

Like just dont bother
Majority of people dont have new enough phones for it

[knotty fiber]

Not only the minimum requirement is high, its optimization is also shit

[neat robin]

Wuwa at least runs smoothly
& the combat looks great which is one of its main selling points

[knotty fiber]

Wuwa went thru patches to have its today

[neat robin]

I never even had issues

I dont think my ipad is even on the minimum req list but its running it

[blissful tulip]

Hearing horror stories about Nikki mobile just makes me wait for an eventual cloud release

God knows when that'll happen my laptop would burn trying to run the game normally

[knotty fiber]

My laptop runs it kinda ok

4060 laptop running at 1080p 60fps ultra

Not any higher than that tho

[neat robin]

I’m cryong I just looked at new ipad pro prices
Ik mine is 1st gen why are the new 6th $2.2k

[blissful tulip]

One thing I genuinely hope Waves improves is its second halves being very dry

At least to me it feels terrible

[knotty fiber]

I got mine on black wednesday

It was a clutch

Got a like new M4 for 650 bucks

[neat robin]

I need to keep an eye on sales
Id go for a normal pad but they never last as long obv without as good hardware in them

[knotty fiber]

I generally don't go for anything less than pro

I need the 120hz

[neat robin]

I used mine for uni originally. Telling me to do bio & chem online on a laptop?? No I needed to be able to draw

[knotty fiber]

That's why I bought my iPad

Gaming laptop is also a menace to use on campus

I'm about to put it on sale

[neat robin]

Hmm 4th gen pros 1.2k here

I want something that’ll run my games though for a good while

I dont feel so bad the 1st gen I can see here is 1k
Adding $200 from 1st to 4th gen isnt bad

Scared to go for anything refurbished

[knotty fiber]

4th gen is M2 right

[knotty fiber]

I don't go refurb
I only go pre-owned

Either pre-owned or open box

[neat robin]

I’m trying to see the difference in normal or 5g like why

[knotty fiber]

You wanna use the cellular?

[neat robin]

No thats why

Id only be using wifi

[knotty fiber]

Cuz I'd be shocked to see someone wanting to use cellular on iPad lol

[knotty fiber]

Is this in USD or?

[neat robin]

Cad

[knotty fiber]

Oh

[neat robin]

4th gen

[knotty fiber]

Still expensive

Is this bestbuy

Looks like bestbuy to me

[neat robin]

We dont have many options here 😔

[knotty fiber]

Ebay?

Ebay is a great place to buy electronics

Hardly ever get scammed

Cuz of the money back

[neat robin]

Its a lot of money

[knotty fiber]

You can try lookimg up on ebay

Sometimes there are gonna be ppl rush selling good stuffs

I bought 2 iPads and my gpu there

for very good price

[neat robin]

So what were you saying its either new or open box, off ebay?

[knotty fiber]

Can buy pre-owned

I bought my first iPad pre owned

[neat robin]

M2 chip is above a15 right?
Idk enough about any of this

[knotty fiber]

It's above even A18 pro

lol

[lucid pebble]

Pad gamers.

[neat robin]

So 4th gen pro with m2 is more than enough for basically any mobile game rn

[knotty fiber]

Yes

Well except Nikki

[neat robin]

Yeah but they have issues

Ok see I have trust issues ordering online

I can see its selling for $240 cad + shipping but that sounds stupidly low for a 6th gen

[knotty fiber]

You need to check the seller's credibility

[lament shuttle]

If the price sounds too good to be true it likely is

[neat robin]

Anyone play any of these on android tablets over apple?

[edgy cobalt]

last time I used an android tablet was the samsung galaxy a decade ago

did not last long, was super content with my ipad mini when I used to be a mobile sweat

[knotty fiber]

iPad is just simply the best choice in tablets

I can ask my friend and my sister to test this game on their android tabs

but I doubt

[neat robin]

I’ll prob get the $1.2k one with m2 chip. I’ll wait a few days but was sorta looking online at peoples opinions on tablets
I got 7 years out of my current one and I can keep using it for drawing and less intense games (hsr r99 whatver)

Everything is so expensive here and if it was $2k for a new pro or 2k for a new galaxy plus wtvr they call them i dont want either 😭

[knotty fiber]

you were looking at this earlier right

[neat robin]

Sorta funny I can run wuwa on my current pad but not zzz

[knotty fiber]

account created this month

lmfao

0 rating

that's a scam

[neat robin]

Yeah well not preowned ones

[knotty fiber]

a lot of scam ones

[neat robin]

I’m seeing what our bestbuy has, they sell new and openbox

[knotty fiber]

there's this one but the shipping fee is pretty pricey

since from US

[neat robin]

4th gen pro, 512gb, m2 chip, brand new $1199 from bb without any shipping or delivery charges

[neat robin]

Yeah for 4x the storage id buy new and not ship

[knotty fiber]

oh you want the 512gb?

I wouldn't tbh

I would advise against 512gb

that's too much

[neat robin]

Mines over half full

[knotty fiber]

I have a 512gb pro

[neat robin]

But I wouldnt transfer my art over so. Hm

[knotty fiber]

and I can't even use half of it

a crap ton of photos and videos

with games

I can't even use 200gb

[neat robin]

Oh I just dropped under half storage after hsr let us get rid of old stuff

Game went down to only 17gb

[edgy cobalt]

512 is too much unless you’re using it for your job

like are you a graphic designer or you just like drawing or

[neat robin]

It was for school originally

But yeah digital art and stuff is more hobby now. Which this old pad works fine for it sorta just overheats now

[edgy cobalt]

128gb is usually fine but 256gb I recommend if you have 2-3 demanding gacha games imo

like say if the avg gachanerd plays zzz, wuwa, and gfl2

they’d need 256gb kek

[neat robin]

I mean… codm is 40gb thats 5 yrs of skin collection

[knotty fiber]

check this one out

850 USD for M4 is pretty good

[neat robin]

Oh m4 hm

[knotty fiber]

free shipping free returns

that's what I always go by lol

[knotty fiber]

256gb is the sweet spot I agree

128gb is very likely lacking

and 512gb is just overkill

[edgy cobalt]

I remember playing it for like one day when it was in its early days

just to 1v1 my friend with snipers

I can def see it being 40gb now

hsr goated for letting me delete previous files so its at 15gb ish and I have like close to 30gb free on 128

[knotty fiber]

[neat robin]

This feels insane to drop money on still. Can you send a link?

[edgy cobalt]

yeah holy

[neat robin]

Dm?

[edgy cobalt]

ebay moment

[knotty fiber]

tbf

amazon also has long ass links

[neat robin]

I dont like random people selling shit cuz ik its xmas and gonna be tons of scams

[edgy cobalt]

1 in 5 chance I send a long link from amazon yeah

[knotty fiber]

you need to do researches to buy on ebay

but this one looks fine to me

ebay is really tough for sellers

[neat robin]

Oh I mean bestbuy here has a m4 $1199 open box…

I dont get it 5th gen m4 is 1.2k, 7th gen m4 is 1.7k whats the point

Just save $500

[knotty fiber]

bigger screen and nanotextured screen

[neat robin]

Nty

[knotty fiber]

1.7k is definitely nanotextured

you don't have to buy it

that's for people who want it

if you can't find a cheap M2

then M4 is the best one to buy rn

[neat robin]

I’ll look over the next week see whats popping up for xmas/boxing day sales
I should have thought of this during black friday lol

[knotty fiber]

I bought mine for 920 cad and was contented

love ebay for these kinda opportunities

[neat robin]

Yeah idk if I want to wait another year. Ngl expecting prices to go up in a couple weeks

[edgy cobalt]

meanwhile I’m waiting for the new iphone SE drop early 2025 and contemplating if I should switch to it

or wait till they make an iphone 20

[knotty fiber]

Man

When will apple drop an iPhone Pro Max with pink

I don't like this titan trend at all man

[neat robin]

I usually just grab black or dark silver cuz its mostly all covered anyways

[knotty fiber]

I wanna use transparent case

I want pink or light blue

[quasi sable]

@knotty fiber what's XY good team

[knotty fiber]

Yinyao + keeper

[quasi sable]

Yinyao?

[knotty fiber]

Yinlin and Yao

[quasi sable]

Oh ok

But wait

Tower requires 3 teams right?

[knotty fiber]

yes

[quasi sable]

Then should sk in tsubaki or yinyao?

[knotty fiber]

yinyao

cuz that comp is weaker

much weaker

[quasi sable]

So Tsubaki fine without sk?

[knotty fiber]

should be

[quasi sable]

I see

How'd you build Jianxhin?

[knotty fiber]

I don't

[quasi sable]

Bruh

I don't have good healer yet atm

Only verina and baizhi

[knotty fiber]

use baizhi for the weakest comp that clears low floors

[quasi sable]

Mkay

Is chalcaro still good or cope?

[knotty fiber]

pretty cope

[quasi sable]

Damnit

Idk what team I can build on 3rd

[knotty fiber]

who do you have

[quasi sable]

I pretty much have everyone

Except hsi changli skeeper zheizhi and encore

[knotty fiber]

Changli pretty much can solo from 1 to 3

[quasi sable]

I wish I won Changli
But instead I got a dissapointed twink

[knotty fiber]

have you built Jiyan

[quasi sable]

Hahahaha
I didn't pulled him

[knotty fiber]

then you missed a lot

[quasi sable]

I mean

[quasi sable]

My excuse was saving for yinlin

Second

I was playing last week

[knotty fiber]

how much have you saved up

[quasi sable]

800?

Not pulls but currency

[knotty fiber]

[quasi sable]

And yes

[knotty fiber]

I guess use Encore for low floors then

[quasi sable]

My acc is very bricked

[quasi sable]

I don't even have her yet bruh

[knotty fiber]

oh

right

[vapid river]

i use mine to solo clear floors 1-3 on one side just for funsies

[rancid elm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1hd7kas/sorry_have_to_say_the_glider_is_region_locked_to/

[lilac hare]

What’s the consensus on Carlotta til now? Her gameplay does look very fun

[rancid elm]

???

Why you posting hsr

[lilac hare]

No it’s supposedly a wuwa character

[rancid elm]

???

I just see this girl in the tga on hsr teaser

[lilac hare]

She does look similar

[rancid elm]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-star-rail-sniff-bangboo-bang-boo-gif-3535991803875272340

[lilac hare]

Damn it’s definitely the same person and people have misinterpreted it

Let me delete it she’s definitely the same person lol

[lilac hare]

Yes she is from hsr

[knotty fiber]

apparently she got some buffs

tf is this deeck move

they nerfed her base number and buffed her S6

buffed her skill dmg

[rancid elm]

Who

[quasi sable]

who?
carlo?

[rancid elm]

Yinlin?

[knotty fiber]

Carlotta

[quasi sable]

bruh

W

[knotty fiber]

Ult base dmg nerfed
NA buffed
Skill buffed
Intro Outro buffed

[quasi sable]

whats her main dmg source again?

[knotty fiber]

S1 nerfed
S2 converted all cdmg buff to crate
S3 buffed big time
S4 changed to what it should have been
S5 still a fucking joke
S6 massively buffed

[knotty fiber]

skill dmg

Her ult is considered skill dmg

it's slightly buffed

and her S6 which buffs her ult dmg is massively buffed

[quasi sable]

i see

wait

s2 convert cdmg buff

[knotty fiber]

It was 15% crate 20% cdmg buff

now it's 25% crate

[quasi sable]

ah ic

i prefer old one

[knotty fiber]

btw

her signature echo set nerfed

[quasi sable]

wait have a question

howd you get new set

[knotty fiber]

2-Pc: Resonance Skill DMG + 12%
5-Pc: Casting Resonance Liberation grants 30% -> 18% Glacio DMG Bonus and 30% -> 18% Resonance Skill DMG Bonus for 5s. This effect stacks up to 2 times.

[knotty fiber]

farm

lol

[quasi sable]

do you switch each piece or is it based by region

[knotty fiber]

region

[quasi sable]

ah ok

that makes more sense

so its possible to get 2pc2pc glacio then

[knotty fiber]

NA:
Customary Greetings DMG [100.42%] -> [100.42%+122.73%]

Skill:
Art of Violence [85.79%+85.79%] -> [134.00%+134.00%]
Chromatic Splendor DMG [67.11%+67.11%+201.33%] -> [104.83%+104.83%+314.47%]

Ult:
Era of New Wave [708.43%] -> [674.04%]
Death Knell DMG** [323.05%+25.51%x4] -> [307.37%+24.27%x4]**
Fatal Finale DMG** [1133.48%] -> [1078.46%]**

Forte:
Heavy Attack - Imminent Oblivion is now considered Resonance Skill DMG.
Casting Intro Skill Wintertime Aria will now restore 3 Moldable Crystals.

Intro:
Wintertime Aria *[258.82%] -> [166.39%+55.47%2]

Outro:
Closing Remark [772.01] -> [794.2%]

S1: After using Intro skill Resonance Skill, gains 30% 25% Glacio DMG bonus for 15s. Added "Carlotta is immune to interruptions when casting Resonance Liberation Death Knell". "Restore 3 Moldable Crystals upon casting Intro Skill" has been moved to forte.

S2: Dealing DMG to targets inflicted with Deconstruction increases the Crit. Rate of this attack by 15% 25%. Crit. DMG increase effect has been removed.

S3: Enable Outro Skill Kaleidoscope Sparks: Deal 1 additional strike at the end of Outro Skill Closing Remark, dealing Glacio DMG equal to 779.67% 1032.18% of Carlotta's ATK. The DMG Multiplier of Heavy Attack - Imminent Oblivion Resonance Skill Art of Violence and Resonance Skill Chromatic Splendor is increased by 80% 70%.

S4: Casting Heavy Attack, Heavy Attack Containment Tactics, and Heavy Attack Imminent Oblivion grants all team members 25%** Basic Attack Resonance Skill DMG Bonus **for 30s.

S5: Trash

S6: Death Knell - Elegy's DMG multiplier is increased by 109%, and increase the amount of crystal shards fired by 1. Shots of Resonance Liberation Death Knell deal higher DMG and shoot out double the number of crystal shards, representing a total increase of 145.6% in the DMG Multiplier.

[marble charm]

There are changes to other things as well

Roccia got a few changes, and a few of the new 4 costs got changed

[knotty fiber]

the cost 4 set for her I mentioned above

and I don't care about the brat

[marble charm]

Roccia's special state gets cancelled when swapped out, her gadget's gadget is now based on the on-field character's stats, any her s1 now gives her forte attacks resistance to interruption

[marble charm]

There are 5 4 costs which got changes

Sentry construct's cooldown gets reset when fully stacked (when at 6 stacks)
Lorelei's liberation buff got changed to a basic attack buff
Nightmare heron's skill dmg buff got changed to a heavy attack buff
Nightmare crownless now has multiple charges
And nightmare inferno rider gotten its hold mode

[hollow gorge]

Wow, wth. Her sequences weren't good to begin with and they nerfed them? Ok, well, I am still not getting her copies lmao

Though it's good to see devs are nerfing her, she was kinda too strong

Well, I am getting her no matter what. I have been waiting for a gun boss killer 5* since first week

[neat robin]

I’m glad they’re trying to keep s0 power levels similar
Id be sad if they started powercreeping units already

Idc about sequences, they arent required to play the game

[hollow gorge]

I am super sus about 25% CR. I really hope they won't make her talents add CDMG

That would be kinda ugly of them

[marble charm]

Changli

[neat robin]

Cdmg sig hopefully cr talents

[knotty fiber]

That looks powercreep to me

They buffed her dmg in general

Her HA is now skill dmg