I'm guessing it wasnt meant to be released yet
#・wuwa-lounge
marble charm
knotty fiber
apparently they have testers for other langs too
dense elbow
accidental rollout ig
knotty fiber
I'm guessing it wasnt meant to be released yet
yep
dense elbow
knotty fiber
not done formatting and shit yet
all 3 languages of 1.4.4 have about the same changes
so I don't think "EN and JP are outdated" or so
dense elbow
apparently they have testers for other langs too
ik they have the CC server like a week before release but im not aware of a global beta server
i wouldve had the PTR launcher for that already if so
dense elbow
no like
theres a fucking bot that tracks every update wuwa push out
so unless it was sent over like google drive to 10 people
it wouldve been tracked there
knotty fiber
idk but they have been kinda confidential with the beta testing shit
dense elbow
if it was that confidential they wouldnt have their CN beta client open to download to anyone even if they cant login 
they make 2 massive posts about how theyre gonna tackle leaks but keep everything in the client whilst making it easy to access 😔
idk kinda backwards
yeah havent updated but can grab the client if i wanna
kuro been weird with this stuff
knotty fiber
they make 2 massive posts about how theyre gonna tackle leaks but keep everythin...
they only care about it cuz story was leaked
and they put story in beta
dense elbow
for some reason
knotty fiber
both midog and kudog don't really care about kit leaking much
dense elbow
even genshin dont put the full thing atp and replace chars with keqing 😭
knotty fiber
it's just story leaking that triggers them
dense elbow
mhm
knotty fiber
midog isn't putting a lot of stuffs in beta anymore
just some small pieces to bait ppl
dense elbow
yeah coz they dont have to tbh
dense elbow
altho ZZZ are annoying to the point of removing way too much
😭
makes sense if theyre this far back on dev time but
marble charm
If I remembered correctly, the main leak which initially made kuro take action was the banner change discussion leak
dense elbow
i just find it weird that they could shut things down if they wanted to but instead choose to write a 2nd post about " 🥺 please dont post leaks"
marble charm
I was talking about wave 1
dense elbow
dense elbow
i find it funny how the only reason we have some form of global testing before launch is because a bunch of CCs were mad at the CC program being useless and sent in demands for early access and better communication
knotty fiber
hoyo just did it a couple times without even warning a word
dense elbow
they got time anyways
just their beta processes are kinda weird sometimes
these two were straight up missing values in the first couple weeks despite them being in the display
coz for some reason they handle them separately 😭
knotty fiber
maybe they actually don't care that much about WW and just using it as a cashcow for PGR
dense elbow
small bronze
skippin jenshin quests and what is this shorekeeper wannabe 
lucid pebble
Me when people violate NDAs and gamers blame the party trying to protect their intellectual property.
limber imp
skippin jenshin quests and what is this shorekeeper wannabe <:A_smolhutao:795081...
Ur Joe king
vapid river
average of 24.8 pulls for every jiyan i've pulled
jiyan slated account fr
and i just wanted the new 4*
of which i only got 2 cons
lucid pebble
average of 24.8 pulls for every jiyan i've pulled
vapid river
had i actually been playing i wouldn't have even had to swipe roo
it was only 100 pulls
edgy cobalt
lament shuttle
Damn that’s lucky
lucid pebble
it was only 100 pulls
To be fair, I got 4 Jinhsi’s in the span of 60 pulls, I’m in no position to complain.
wraith steeple
She doesnt do crazy dmg on moonlit
makes sense
camidya and her weapon are guranteed
les go
neat robin
I’m 50/50 on camy
Prob skipping sword idk
Too close to a 2nd eog to care for a limited sword rn
wraith steeple
thats fair
i just got the gunns for morti
so
no going bacc now
danjin will have to be a havoc dmg deepen bitch for camidya for now
until 2.0 ofc
neat robin
Unless camy has changed from being almost all basic dmg type
lucid pebble
i'm 11/13 on 5050s
Perish.
vapid river
knotty fiber
Unless camy has changed from being almost all basic dmg type
Right now only her ult and intro/outro are not basic
Her concerto skill is considered basic
small bronze
not that it matters but just noticed you can read the things on the tacets and i think someone messed up the colors
also what we thinking about yao weapon on jianxin
blissful tulip
I like the idea with Youhu and Mortefi
Likely only great in ST though
Do we know if Youhu will appear on standard banner post 1.4? I assume she will but idt it's been mentioned yet
small bronze
if u want c0 she is in the shop for 80 corals for 70 days
unless u want cons
so even if no corals u can wait for camelya banner and use em
blissful tulip
Not pulling for Cam 
only chance left is to either gamble standard pulls post 1.4 or hope I get Youhu over the next 3 weeks
small bronze
well 70 days is still past camelya i suppose but depends if u pull after her
do we even know what is past camelya
blissful tulip
Yinlin's rerun
With Lumi
I'm coping that Youhu will remain available for 100 corals after 1.4
small bronze
i already risked it to like 65 to get her even though i dont like her so im fine with it not even sure if i will buy her for 80 when i pull for camelya
but lumi i want bad
and i have yinlin already
soo i hope to have low pity at that point
im still coping for geshu linn as a character
neat robin
I want lumi more than youhu
Saving my 360 corals for s1 of somebody I think I dont wanna buy 4* if I dont need them
blissful tulip
I want Youhu personally because I want to increase Mortefi's potential
torn tapir
Not pulling for Cam <:A_HuPensive:807551025942495274> only chance left is to eit...
Finally
Someone who isn't a SHEEP
neat robin
I dont like camy but I love what they did with her animations
blissful tulip
Someone who isn't a SHEEP
Not fond of her playstyle, looks stiff even if dodging during that phase is possible
I prefer more traditional styles like Chixia's
neat robin
Traditional: gun
I like yaos the most rn
Jinhsi is great but midair stuff sorta eh sometimes
limber imp
Shorekeeper is def my fav
I love the like space black hole vibe
Yet still the sort of lifecycle of the butterfly style they got
And how fluid her animations are
frozen summit
2.0 chars will clear all
hollow gorge
Likely good. Considering that we have HMC, Camellya should be the only limited havoc DPS for some time
lucid pebble
neat robin
Damn
rotund drum
oh youhu banner is up
i didnt even notice
looks about right
c3 now
im not even mad about it anymore
edgy cobalt
building pity for a shit healer only to pull a shit 5 star unit
at least ur guaranteed cammy
blissful tulip
Seems about right
Wonder why they still include the livestream codes and incomplete ToA cycles
opaque flume
Wonder why they still include the livestream codes and incomplete ToA cycles
What are the livestream codes
blissful tulip
None
1.1 and 1.2 had no livestream, 1.3 had a livestream, it's unlikely that 1.4 will
dusty crown
55 pulls and no youha, I've lost all my 50-50s but it's getting risky now t_t
hollow gorge
55 pulls and no youha, I've lost all my 50-50s but it's getting risky now t_t
Please stop and just buy her with coral. It's only 10 pulls ToT
hollow gorge
1.1 and 1.2 had no livestream, 1.3 had a livestream, it's unlikely that 1.4 will
Why unlikely?
blissful tulip
Reserved for larger patches usually, 1.4's smaller
2.0 will likely be a trademark livestream for Kuro, and an opportunity to gather the players they lost after launch
1.1 could have also counted, but it was a dire period at the time
As patches last 7 weeks rather than the traditional 6, with 1.1 coming 2 weeks earlier
hollow gorge
Reserved for larger patches usually, 1.4's smaller
2.0 will likely be a trademar...
Reasonable. But Kuro is not being consistent with codes, which is not good. I'll be fine if they don't have any codes altogether
dusty crown
Please stop and just buy her with coral. It's only 10 pulls ToT
implying i have saved coral
knotty fiber
Wonder why they still include the livestream codes and incomplete ToA cycles
That's so blurry
But well by default you should still have 3 ToA cycles
Unless it's not a 6-week patch
small bronze
the tower bosses have resistances? like does my yao deal lower dmg to the last 2 floors
to the memphis
small bronze
kinda annoying first time i wanna try 30/30 but first floor is perfect for jiyan cause aero bonus, second fusion for my changli and third i was about to use yao i suppose i need to do yao on first
small bronze
i just did the last last one on 2.59
welp at least i know i can do it
had to do some hard mixing but i barely did it
lament shuttle
Gz
knotty fiber
neat robin
I forget, was camy cr or cdmg forte stats and was it bonus cr in her enhanced state ?
knotty fiber
Cdmg forte
No crate boost
Neither her base kit nor resonance chains have crate boost
Only cdmg on S1
neat robin
I’m missing cdmg on the 1costs STILL
neat robin
Yeah
neat robin
I have a cdmg dreamless I dont wanna farm a cr one
knotty fiber
That's why it's a good placeholder rn
Also skill dmg roll is useless for her now it seems
neat robin
Give me cdmg not er pls
knotty fiber
All her skills are now basic dmg
knotty fiber
Man
Thanks to the complaining
Now I can only get cost 3 in tacet
Cost 1 is nonexistent
I have too many havoc dmg% and 0 atk% cost 1 now
edgy cobalt
I wanna gamble another 1 cost with double crit hoping for atk and ba% subs as well
lyric fjord
Cost 1 is nonexistent
Same, farming for 1 cost is so annoying now
And still no way to farm efficiently for lingering tunes
knotty fiber
Like holy fuck
Pity of 8
And each has 3 elements to gamba for
And cost 1 from tacet field might as well not exist at all
hollow gorge
Pity of 8
And each has 3 elements to gamba for
They are often in packs of 3 or 4, so farming is better than 3 cost
opaque flume
Same, farming for 1 cost is so annoying now
I mean ngl you get a shit ton and they are like way easier to get the right ones
Especially like
From the little echo things
Whatever the items
1 cost echos are a super common
Event drop
lyric fjord
and no selector for lingering tunes/support set
knotty fiber
Cost 1 being abundant in number only solves the issue of high pity count
It doesn't solve the 1/3 gamba
opaque flume
It doesn't solve the 1/3 gamba
I mean a 33% chance is barely gambling if you get like 100
Also I’m ngl
You only need like a couple good 1 costs for each element then ur done
Forever
Basically
what are you saying
neat robin
Its be cool to have main patch events give a real selector - pick any set, and whatever mainstat 3cost from that set
Like maybe I needed a fusion% but the 3cost box only gives a wolf 3cost which is one I dont want to replace. Sucks
opaque flume
That's also cost 3 <:topkek:883610158645780500> what are you saying
True actually
I don’t think a 1 cost selector would do anything
I’m ngl
Like
You get 20 one costs from a couple minutes of exploration
knotty fiber
I call that cap
opaque flume
I call that cap
I was doing some shores exploration yesterday and over about an hour I got 48 echos+ a bit (I know cause I started getting the horribly annoying notifications)
edgy cobalt
I get a lot more 3 costs because I cba to just
kill enemies nowadays
opaque flume
I get a lot more 3 costs because I cba to just
kill enemies nowadays
I mean I honestly enjoy the combat so I just kinda fuck around and kill the little miner guys
A lot
Or the exarats
Or whatever
Bro midkeepers auto pickup feature is so nice
I’m ngl
edgy cobalt
I like the whole combat system but ig not that much to just spend an hour in the game during its downtime
opaque flume
I like the whole combat system but ig not that much to just spend an hour in the...
I mean I was enjoying a little exploration
edgy cobalt
I maxed exploration from my end so that's that
opaque flume
Spending an hour on a weekend is pretty chill for me I barely play
opaque flume
I maxed exploration from my end so that's that
Ya see
edgy cobalt
since day 2 lmao
edgy cobalt
just not enough catering to speedrunners lol
opaque flume
just not enough catering to speedrunners lol
Live service doesn’t cater to speedrunners bro
The whole genre
I can’t imagine being a Genshin or any other gacha game speedrunner
Shit sounds ass
My friend plays like 16 hours a day for 2 days then is done with an update
edgy cobalt
yeah its a pepelol moment
opaque flume
yeah its a pepelol moment
I mean you can just idk
Play normally
Nothing is stopping you
edgy cobalt
speedrunning is how I normally play so
we'll just suffer from being lazy to farm 1 costs
and personally I'm fine with that
opaque flume
They need to give more echo xp tho
@edgy cobalt Do you get more xp back than in Genshin when you use an upgraded echo
edgy cobalt
both xp and tuners, mostly tuners
I wouldn't know, I quit genshit when chasm released
edgy cobalt
y'all still have the
2x and 5x bonus when foddering artifacts right
edgy cobalt
hsr and wuwa does not have that so genshit has that advantage in y'all foddering shenanigans
opaque flume
hsr and wuwa does not have that so genshit has that advantage in y'all foddering...
By having a gacha?
edgy cobalt
well I guess yeah
opaque flume
well I guess yeah
More gambling 🔥
knotty fiber
150 gold 150 purple atm
opaque flume
And no xp
knotty fiber
It never runs out
Compared to my 0 tuner
So you get it
Lmfao
Just imagine your tuners completely gone
opaque flume
?
knotty fiber
20
knotty fiber
Do you know what's the difference?
opaque flume
What
knotty fiber
That's the very issue
knotty fiber
1000 tuners
Then you also get a fucc ton of tubes too
opaque flume
Then you also get a fucc ton of tubes too
Ok but idk I run out of tubes
All the time
I used 106 golds and 336 purple yesterday
And got like
Nothing
I keep hitting the echo cap so I spent like 30 minutes upgrading like 140 echos
knotty fiber
The only explaination I can think of is that you have a lot of +25 echoes
I also have a good amount
Probably 40? Idr
opaque flume
The only explaination I can think of is that you have a lot of +25 echoes
I have +25 on 5 echos for prolly 7 characters?
Idk
I have a ton of +20s
Tho
knotty fiber
Try salvaging what you don't use then
opaque flume
Try salvaging what you don't use then
I use the characters
Like sanhua and baizhi and shit
Have +20s
Mortefi
Jiaxin
knotty fiber
I have like
HRover
Tsubaki
Jiyan
Hsi
Yaoi
Yinlin +2pcs for Mortefi
SK
Verina
Changli
Those ones have full +25 each
How many is that
knotty fiber
1.4
opaque flume
Dawg is inventing characters
opaque flume
I have cal, changli, jinshi, hrover, verina, shorekeeper, xiangli, yinlin +25 i think
Then like chixia, sanhua, yuanwu, baizhi, danjin, mortefi, +20 I think
Idk
neat robin
I have jiyan jinhsi yao yinlin zz skeeper hrover encore mort calc all fully +25
Verina baizhi +15-20
Broke af in tuners and tubes
Trying to minmax builds. (Unsuccessfully)
midnight bloom
lucid pebble
lilac hare
I wonder if we’ll get info on the next new character during camellya’s banner
dire river
wait, does camy even want havoc set or lingering? <:think:709945601810366515>
Hoping it's havoc cause I ain't got a single havoc dmg 3 cost on lingering
spice finch
What app do you guys use for pull/pity history?
small bronze
also does it work back? or only since you start using it
or as far as your history goes
sweet coral
wait, does camy even want havoc set or lingering? <:think:709945601810366515>
I think Havoc?
Yeah definitely Havoc
The effect stacks even only with Basics
Idk if she wants Dreamless or Crownless though
Probably Crownless cuz it helps with her own damage
Unless they wanna make a new Echo for Cam
small bronze
is the wuwa pity wish thing on wuwa tracker? or other site
cant find it myself
where you see in how many pulls you got each
okay i think i got it 
knotty fiber
wait, does camy even want havoc set or lingering? <:think:709945601810366515>
She's dps
knotty fiber
Idk if she wants Dreamless or Crownless though
It kinda doesn't matter but you generally still want Dreamless
I can see how she works with Crownless tho
Since Crown doesn't require full chain to give the buff
Just tap and you alr got the buff
I'm just not sure if 12% havoc dmg is worth it with the amount of dmg bonus she has
sweet coral
I think it just means she can go ATK 3 cost
Imagine if they just make Dreamless’s 50% DMG bonus available to Cam’s RL too
vapid river
She's dps
yeah and both of those sets are for dps
It's me asking "is the atk bonus from lingering tunes going to be better than the havoc bonus"
knotty fiber
oh wait yeah I forgor it's atk set
idt it's worth it
it might be better but I don't think it's worth the trouble of refarming another set
neat robin
Might be like yao where extended field time + having sig for huge dmg% buff makes tunes better
But if you have a havoc set from hrover may as well put it on camy
burnt shoal
why there score limit
neat robin
Cant tryhard every reward on first day
burnt shoal
overcapped again but only a bit
vapid river
oh wait yeah I forgor it's atk set
my hmc doesn't have a good set to begin wtih so it'd just be farming a set 
but i do have 2 really good 1 cost havoc echoes
so i'd rather build that and have a set that 2 people could use
frozen summit
okay i think i got it <:A_HuTaoHeart:803337674819764254>
no Jinshi smh…
small bronze
no Jinshi smh…
only the dadas & the cannons for me no flat justice
knotty fiber
my hmc doesn't have a good set to begin wtih so it'd just be farming a set <:KEK...
You can also offset the difference by just get 1 cost 3 atk%
Or 2 even
vapid river
ye, since her havoc dmg is increased by atk% i wonder if atk% will be better
she's like, dps in the purest form yeah?
cr/cdmg/basic atk/atk%
does she even need er?
knotty fiber
Idk about the frequency of her ult tho
vapid river
guess i gotta level sanhua
knotty fiber
knotty fiber
Nah not sure if I'm going s6
vapid river
but only level 40... that should be fine right
knotty fiber
Only if my luck doesn't suck ass
vapid river
no i mean my sanhua is s6
knotty fiber
She has atk boost at S6
knotty fiber
Yeh
knotty fiber
ye, since her havoc dmg is increased by atk% i wonder if atk% will be better
At equal numerical value they're equal
Which has more is less valuable
Convert your flat atk rolls into % too
vapid river
yeah idt her atk% buffs scale with anything anyway
and it's not like she's there to do dmg
neat robin
Glacio if you have a zz build like me
Sanhua has like 130 er, including eog er, and ults every rot
neat robin
I like this event
Got a 750k ult out of yao
vapid river
what does he normally give you?
neat robin
Mm. 200k open world
Ive had over 300k in tower depending on the buffs
s0r1, 2/2 build
opaque flume
My damage is legit ass
I’m ngl
On yao
Idk why he’s lvl 90 and has good 4/3/3/1/1 lingering echos
With a lvl 90 weapon
timid sierra
my xiangli yao can hit like 114k on a good day with all buffs active in a changli yao shore team with 90 abyss surges
opaque flume
my xiangli yao can hit like 114k on a good day with all buffs active in a changl...
In a what team
opaque flume
Missed out
timid sierra
so i just shoved him in there
opaque flume
I have yinlin
timid sierra
his xly and yl team that good?>
i kind of want to get encore and yinlin so that my changli and xly arent holding hands in their cope team
well i got verina s2 just now though so i have easy time with her now right
knotty fiber
his xly and yl team that good?>
not really
she buffs his dmg by a lot only if you stay on him for the whole 14 seconds
but her dmg is not a lot
and it disables quickswapping
timid sierra
hmmm
yeah i dont know if i really want yinlin then especially since my rectifier game is weak as fuck
i do still want encore though... but that's because she's a standard who i can lose to kek
knotty fiber
I still prefer Changli unless your Yaoi somehow does like 50% more dmg
timid sierra
yaoi
knotty fiber
but since my Changli is stuck with Hsi so I use Yinlin on Yaoi
timid sierra
i married my jinhsi and zhezhi and verina and now they're a thruple
that seems cool though
knotty fiber
I didn't pull Zz and I don't want her
timid sierra
becuase my experience with xly and changli is really weird
knotty fiber
so Changli is with her
timid sierra
i dont know how to properly rotate it and both of their echos are annoying to fully prock
honestly i was just pepegapulling and got zhezhi as a surprise
my jinhsi can do like 330k in the middle hazard zone tower thingie with full stacks and all buffs active though so its decent
knotty fiber
I honestly just
don't care about big number
I don't wait til max stack for hsi
I cast whenever I can
it's better to do multiple rotations than just getting 1 big shot
timid sierra
i just bulldozed the tower so i have no real incentive to learn anything proper tbh
can only do 11/18 and i have massive skill issue and cant do almost all the level vi holograms
but its still chilling
neat robin
Yinlin yao is also different builds than quickswap changli yao
Yinlin moonlit heron > outro into Yao > you run him on tunes (ideally) > outro off into skeeper’s enhanced
Void and tunes 4pc dont work when you keep swapping off
vapid river
Mm. 200k open world
Ive had over 300k in tower depending on the buffs
what wep?
you pull his sig?
cuz i don't really like using cal anymore
his dmg doesn't feel good either
was thinking about leveling him
surely cal's echoes will work on him just fine or does XY want double 2pc?
edgy cobalt
should be fine
neat robin
what wep?
Yeah r1
I just went 2 void 2 tunes cuz I had such bad 3costs
And wanted to use mech boss
vapid river
that's fair
is it even worth leveling verina's talents
/gen
lvl 60 with r4 variation
sweet coral
is it even worth leveling verina's talents
I suppose you can level them for some more healing
Most importantly would be the first ascension for the ATK buff
You can get the second one too if you somehow get low HP often
(Especially if you’re a Danjin main)
sweet coral
Then no need
sweet coral
Dragons, Yinlin and Rover
vapid river
ye i kinda of regret investing into hmc
should have just waiting for camy
my hmc is dogshit
sweet coral
I skipped Jiyan
vapid river
i got him s4
sweet coral
Lost 50/50 on Yinlin
vapid river
oof
sweet coral
Got Jinhsi, skipped Changli, lost then got Zhezhi, didn’t get enough pulls for Shore
uneven flame
Idk I found a comment with this picture linked. Idk if its fanart getting passed as a real leak or a real leak getting passed as fan art cause no one else even noticed this.
knotty fiber
Already, you missed her in Black Shores
This doesn't exist in WW
hollow gorge
They mean Ku-Nami
Yes, Bananami at home, in black shores
small bronze
when you are in shore butterfly form you also auto collect flowers that are on the ground when u hit em wot
neat robin
Skeeper butterfly sprint auto-picks any plants you fly over yes
dusty crown
does Cam want dreamless or crownless
lucid pebble
Dreamless much quicker to farm.
neat robin
Jinhsi with low cr is just making me mad now
63% but she misses more than she crits
opaque flume
Jinhsi with low cr is just making me mad now
63% but she misses more than she cr...
I hope you realize this is statistically
Impossible
frozen summit
Is this real?
yes
they call it ''fanart''
its flower themed she gets pink skills and flower effects i think
was leaked a while ago
neat robin
I hope you realize this is statistically
Impossible
If I miss crit on 2 of the 3 nukes I do in one floor
Math says otherwise
vapid river
Jinhsi with low cr is just making me mad now
63% but she misses more than she cr...
mine has like 53% and she almost never misses her E crit. i'm convinced it can't not crit
neat robin
Unfair
neat robin
I had to reset three times cuz 110k noncrit was just not it
neat robin
Mm
vapid river
are you able to show stats? i wanna compare. b/c mine has pretty low cr/cdmg but has 46% res skill dmg
neat robin
410-420k ish in tower
vapid river
and mine has hit close to 400k
neat robin
I’m not home rn
s0r1,
spectro atk% 3costs
neat robin
neat robin
I dont have any ss of her dmg% rolls
vapid river
i can trust
those who know know
you watch those numbers
now check for res skill dmg bonus
i have it on every echo
neat robin
atk + spec mains is better for r1
spec + spec for standard blade
Assuming similar subs
vapid river
is it?
i might have to level an atk% then
she's also only got 1 double crit echo
if we ever get to change a single stat on echoes
i have so many that will be top tier
shitty that it's lowest cr
but this is her best echo by far. everything else is just... meh
neat robin
Her sig just gives a lot of dmg%, so she likes atk 3cost
neat robin
Yeah. Tons of dmg buffs
I wonder if she reruns soon. I might use my coral for her s1 hmm
vapid river
i just got lucky on a 10 pull after losing 5050
i wasn't trying for s1
so is zhezhi better with her compared to verina?
b/c i like running her with yinlin
but yinlin doesn't really... help buff her dmg in anyway
torn tapir
Wait are these Shorekeeper's or Cameylla's
vapid river
yes
torn tapir
Did I just royally mess up
torn tapir
do you have 60 nova?
What's a nova
vapid river
uhh it's a flower
in the new area
there's a bunch of 'em
~25 you can get every day
torn tapir
They're so pretty
vapid river
ye so you've got enough
if you're trying to insta level 90 camy
you should be good
torn tapir
Should I use these or save
torn tapir
if you're trying to insta level 90 camy
I can level 90 her, but I don't have enough of these things 😔
So I can't max traces
vapid river
if you want to max her talents i'd suggest using them
oh
then ig just keep farming
and save them
the whisper cores you should 100% be able to get more of
knotty fiber
mine has like 53% and she almost never misses her E crit. i'm convinced it can't...
mine has 70% and in some runs I use it 3 times and crit wasn't found
torn tapir
if you want to max her talents i'd suggest using them
I already prefarmed the blobs
vapid river
go synthesis
knotty fiber
torn tapir
go synthesis
I did, still not enough 😔
torn tapir
you legit get them from just killing things
😭 EVERY ONE KN MY ACOUNT WANTS THEM
knotty fiber
isn't blob the sword forte mat
torn tapir
so you have none of these?
I have some, just not enough for max 😭
vapid river
the metal ooze things and the whispers
knotty fiber
yeah cuz when you say blob I can only think of those
vapid river
these look so cool though
knotty fiber
I have excess of everything except rings
torn tapir
nah these is what sword wants
I haven't even prefarmed sword because I don't have enough pulls to guarantee it
vapid river
I haven't even prefarmed sword because I don't have enough pulls to guarantee it
hmm if she comes early and you win your 50 you'll be good
torn tapir
you legit get them from just killing things
Can I buy from a noc
vapid river
you've got like 150 pulls
torn tapir
Npc
torn tapir
Uh
vapid river
oof
torn tapir
I've missed so many 😭
vapid river
vapid river
oh then you can get both
torn tapir
torn tapir
I gotta prefarm weapon tho
torn tapir
I'ma raise my ul to make it easier
vapid river
but yeah you have to kill/farm echoes to get the whispers and other things
torn tapir
Problem is my characters don't deal damage 😔
I've been saving my echo things for Cameylla
neat robin
I started to prefarm sword, realized I’m on 50/50, so decided to max out yao tree instead
torn tapir
Hopefully I can get a decent build for her
vapid river
so what i'm hearing is you're a camy simp
oh
i now actually read the rest of your name
torn tapir
so what i'm hearing is you're a camy simp
😭 I am
vapid river
i see the ( and just stop
torn tapir
I might pull Shorekeeper on rerun tbf
neat robin
I just like camy animations. Idc about her herself
vapid river
i desperately need fusion damage
actually
do i?
i've been finei haven'twithout it 
i skipped changli
though it's kind of annoying that both fusion dmg dealers are sword users
like wtf
torn tapir
Her sword is the red spring right
vapid river
maybe
idk the name of it
why couldn't she have been pistols
we don't have any 5* pistols
3 rects, 2 broadblades, now 2 swords, 1 gauntlet
neat robin
though it's kind of annoying that both fusion dmg dealers are sword users
??
Encore is rectifier
torn tapir
get better echoes
Should I risk using my echo things on her building Encore and Danjin echos
vapid river
i don't have encore
and confused havoc for fusion
both of which i don't really have dmg for
cuz my hmc is dogshit
neat robin
Havoc will both be sword. Hrover camy (and danjin)
vapid river
Should I risk using my echo things on her building Encore and Danjin echos
encore is fusion so that's a different set
but if you want to try and level echoes for camy rn just keep in mind she wants basic skill dmg
on top of the normal cr/cdmg/atk%
afaik all of her abilities lead back to basic atk dmg
torn tapir
but if you want to try and level echoes for camy rn just keep in mind she wants ...
I was gonna wait until I could get someone to echo manip for me
vapid river
torn tapir
Because I don't know how to do it myself 😭
vapid river
if it's the wait till xx:x7 thing
you just do it as it hits xx.x7.00 then xx.x7.15
30 45
torn tapir
torn tapir
There was one in the google doc
torn tapir
that's how i got this though
I don't want to waste my resources by rolling randomly and get a crappy Cameylla
I did that in Genshin and HSR and it took months to get 1% builds
I can't waste time grinding again
🤮
neat robin
You dont. You +10 and if no crit subs its fodder
vapid river
^that's what i do now
cuz it's so time consuming waiting for the x7 thing
literally 1 echo every 10 minutes
6 echoes an hour
ain't got time for that
neat robin
If I +5 and see def sub I also fodder they make me mad
I had +400 def on hrover at one point cuz every piece rolled def%
vapid river
yeah i rarely take first roll def subs unless i foddered something into it and got cr/cdmg after or something
vapid river
I don't want to waste my resources by rolling randomly and get a crappy Cameylla
i think it's easier in genshin/hsr though no?
you just wait for pieces that are top loaded cr/cdmg
b/c it's supposed to go into those stats right?
like
cr
cdmg
hp%
em
most of those rolls should go into cr/cdmg
yeah?
if you auto +20 it
from 0
torn tapir
most of those rolls should go into cr/cdmg
Yuh
Afaik
I don't know how to do it there either
Which is why my account is bricked
torn tapir
Which doesn't really matter in genshin
1% and 50% build will still clear abyss
It makes HSR much harder for max content completion when you aren't close to max effective subs
vapid river
@dense elbow when are we getting a 5* pistol character?
i can't kkona properly w/o guns
dense elbow
<@280016643558604800> when are we getting a 5* pistol character?
I hope never but wasn't chun repurpose meant to be glacio pistol?
vapid river
no clue
you tell me
you're the one with a better chance at getting insider information
opaque flume
you just do it as it hits xx.x7.00 then xx.x7.15
Wait that works?
I thought it was fake
vapid river
Wait that works?
some say it does
some say it doesn't
from all the data the people have been putting on it it's hard to say
a lot of it is weighted on the x7 time
like a lot of it
opaque flume
from all the data the people have been putting on it it's hard to say
Interesting
vapid river
there aren't equal upgrades on every other minute of the hour
so it could just be inflated
opaque flume
you just do it as it hits xx.x7.00 then xx.x7.15
Centiseconds are out of a hundred I thought
Oh hour minute seconds
I see
vapid river
i mean
you should also go to milliseconds
but i'm not trying to be try hard
and atp i can't imagine there's any real accuracy
top is 0 bottom is 9 minute
edgy cobalt
wtf
edgy cobalt
time to get my first 10.5% and 21% surely
vapid river
have i gotten a few good echoes from it? yes
edgy cobalt
have i gotten a few good echoes from it? yes
out of how many attempts
vapid river
3.7k
they only upload accurate results*
or something like that
like verified by people who are actually doing this right
there's a thing on github you can get to help
as well
i'm surprised this wasn't shared here earlier
vapid river
is this your first time hearing about it @edgy cobalt @opaque flume ?
edgy cobalt
no
opaque flume
What kinda crackpot
vapid river
but that jue i shared above was done like this
vapid river
Milliseconds
yeah it's a bit of copium
opaque flume
is this your first time hearing about it <@301504448620920834> <@358261742574370...
Nah people have been talking about it in chat I thought it was fake tho
vapid river
Well there are 1000 milliseconds
if you scroll further to the right you can find these
in case you want to cope in genshin/zzz
edgy cobalt
bigboipinoy
opaque flume
if you scroll further to the right you can find these
Imagine if these people worked in science or smth
This is a decent data science question I’m ngl
hollow gorge
Most of it (if we exclude 5% one) is within one standard deviation. Basically the error in distribution could be attributed to human error
opaque flume
Most of it (if we exclude 5% one) is within one standard deviation. Basically th...
I mean there are ways to find whether it’s outside of human error or not idk
vapid river
that's cool and all, but don't tell me, tell the people who believe in it
opaque flume
I’m not a data scientist
opaque flume
i'm just showing it to cat b/c he hasn't seen it
Ya it’s interesting
neat robin
How much is driven by people just mass testing on these .7 times
Are the .0-.6 and .8-.9 times tracked equally?
How do you know someone didnt just get a double crit and push it forward so everyone tests that specific time
vapid river
Ya it’s interesting
it's just mathematical coping
vapid river
How much is driven by people just mass testing on these .7 times
Are the .0-.6 ...
they talk about who/how people can send in data
time stamp/proof of you doing the rolls at those times
but there's a way larger sample size for x7
by like 2.5x
neat robin
Yeah so whos to say if you dont get another time up to the same sample size, that it wont just balance out
vapid river
you could just open it
afaik they're pretty strict about the data they take in
but it's still overwhelmingly x7 for "valid" entries
again, if you want to talk more about it just go to the actual link and take al ook
neat robin
Well duh if thats what people are specifically rolling on x7 to test and submit
neat robin
Obv if sample size is that much larger, theres not so many submissions on non x7 times
You have to have equal sample size on each minute to actually test it
vapid river
again, i've called this copium many times and i'm in no way trying to support/back up any claims made by this
i just wanted to show cat cuz he hadn't seen it yet
hollow gorge
I ll say let them do this. At least we will get a decent stat roll distribution from this
vapid river
true, but only as long as they maintain strict requirements for submissions
it still sounds like copium
opaque flume
I ll say let them do this. At least we will get a decent stat roll distribution ...
Yes and no cause if the theory is true the large sample size on some numbers would make a roll distribution not helpful
neat robin
Needs to be equal sizes across each time to see distribution
edgy cobalt
so every xx:x7 I'll just +25 ez
neat robin
Double def each one go
edgy cobalt
100%
neat robin
That was me this morning I opened the 2 ele% morph from event and both went double def
vapid river
so every xx:x7 I'll just +25 ez
you have to do it on the 7th minute and at 5/10/15/20/25/30/35/40/45/50/55 seconds
even the millisecond accounts for something(apparently)