・wuwa-lounge

[karmic fox]

Any news on iOS controller support 1.3?

[clear stump]

Skeeper ulti range is huge

Just imagine nahida ulti range.

[lilac hare]

Fr

[edgy cobalt]

r5 variation is same value as skeeper sig?

I’m livid

got r5 casually on my first week of playing

🫵

verina is gonna cope with an r1 dud I pulled one time

[hollow gorge]

Dude has s2 Verona and r5 variation, says the game is easy smh. Though it's easy

[edgy cobalt]

its still fairly easy tbh

but with those two
SUPER easy

[hollow gorge]

I was 27 stars on Android last iteration. Give me a controller support and I get my 30

[dense elbow]

Oh you use the sword one not lampy lmao

[edgy cobalt]

ninjy get good

I commend mobile players beating tower, even tho I had a cracked mobile phase I don’t think I could ever touch tower on my phone or tablet

[hollow gorge]

I am not really a mobile player, my PC died, so I had to play somehow. Was really annoyed too, since I would have gotten 30 stars on the first light/pyro iteration if not for that

Btw, it died not because of wuwa xD

[edgy cobalt]

lmao

MY GOAT IS BACK https://youtu.be/htCHaERKM24?si=6ZYNQwH68S4AJ-RN

[neat robin]

I just need to farm talent mats

Its so boring

[lucid pebble]

But I don’t wanna parry.

[dense elbow]

you dont have to

you activate it then swap out lmao

if it parrys smth then bonus

[lucid pebble]

But I don’t have any glacio swards with glacio damage.

[dense elbow]

womp womp

lampy active echo is

[neat robin]

I’m pretty sure I have all good enough builds, I just need to level talents and fix rot for tower

[lucid pebble]

Good AoE.

[dense elbow]

[edgy cobalt]

s1 extending the range even further is kinda kek

[lucid pebble]

That range better extend to the other two towers.

[lucid pebble]

Who the fuck made these multipliers?

[rotund drum]

that was back when there was no cryo dps

so they probably figured it didnt matter

[edgy cobalt]

dps sanhua real

[dire river]

Ppl running glacio sanhua cause they refuse to make her a moonlit bot

[edgy cobalt]

best I can do with lvl1 3* weapon on jiyan rip

oh not even just flat out 1* weapon lol

[astral osprey]

OMG I JUST JOINED THERES A WUWA CHANNELLLL LETS GO

who here is on america server :3

[burnt shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/emolty-wuthering-waves-ling-yang-gif-1555757847035214690

[spice finch]

Which team do you guys plan to put shorekeeper?

[neat robin]

Prob jiyan or yao

Keep verina in jinhsi with the coords

[spice finch]

I only have changli/chixia/yinlin/verina built currently

Then baizhi ongoing build

[neat robin]

And free yao next half

[clear stump]

Yao with yinlin would be nice

[edgy cobalt]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1N2stekEFi/?share_source=copy_web

8.5s to hit jiyan ult while it takes me 12-13s

• 37s clear

[lilac hare]

How is xiangli yao without yinlin?

Even if she reruns, I’ll be saving for shorekeeper

[edgy cobalt]

good question, sounds like cope to me cuz idk who else you're to pair him with

she gives 20% electro deepen and 25% lib deepen on outro which is what he wants

[burnt shoal]

I should have listened to the devs listened yinlin meme

rip

[edgy cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/mrpokke-gif-5189420829856872386

[ashen geyser]

My goat mrpokke frfr 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[weary acorn]

You'll be coping with the anemo lady

[quasi sable]

What role is shorekeeper?

[knotty fiber]

Sustainer

[burnt shoal]

shorekeeper powercreep verina?

[quasi sable]

Can she buff too?

[edgy cobalt]

verina is still faster (2-3 seconds) but I feelscraft she deals ok dmg and takes ok field time w/ fast hands (6-7 seconds)

she buffs 10% crit rate and 20% atk max

but the real question I’m trynna confirm is if you need 200% or 300% energy on stat screen to max out

[quasi sable]

That's shorekeeper?

[edgy cobalt]

Ya

[quasi sable]

So shorekeeper need 200%-300% er on her?

[edgy cobalt]

like I said I’m trying to confirm

because when the kit mentions •for every 10%/20% increase in energy• I am not sure if it includes the base 100% or you have to start from scratch
it would be solid if it’s the former which may be likely because 300% sounds like cope for majority of players and incentivizes sustainer build without room for dmg

[lucid pebble]

What else are you going to build?

[edgy cobalt]

I heard the words “50k crit intro” in another server and its a tiny neuron activation moment for me

gatekeep waves tho, practically zero pservers for us to confirm any findings

[quasi sable]

Idk.....

[clear stump]

Should be 200. You can only get 313 er or something so it's unrealistic if it's 300.

Also on cn side they're saying skeeper is getting a buff

[weary acorn]

Should be or it's doa for the whole game

[hollow gorge]

Damn, Sustainer taking a vacation break from Genshin

[leaden moat]

So since zhezhi been out for a while now …is she a must if you have a well invested zhezhi. If I pull zhezhi may not be able to guarantee shorekeeper …and xiangli yao weapon

[blissful tulip]

Her potential in freeing up Yinlin for future characters and being a much more comfortable character to use is valuable despite the small overall team damage difference between the two in Jinshi teams

If your Jinshi is S0R1, skipping Zhezhi for Shorekeeper and Yao's weapon is worthwhile

As she will be more than strong enough for quite some time

Speaking of Shorekeeper, do we know if her enhanced intro has the same issue as Calcharo's?

[burnt shoal]

we won't be getting glacio dps for a while maybe

unless the 2.0 glacio main dps leek is real

[edgy cobalt]

me who’s s0r0 and skipping for skeeper and xly fists

[opaque flume]

I’m so mad I got verina s1 instead of zhezhi

I’ve won 1 50/50 in this whole game bro

https://tenor.com/view/pls-god-strike-this-individual-down-strike-down-god-kanye-kanye-cat-gif-9334290556842141514

[edgy cobalt]

s2 is the goal

[opaque flume]

I don’t want standard characters

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

[edgy cobalt]

not even the goatrina

[lilac hare]

Same

[edgy cobalt]

same

I’ll send my history later

[neat robin]

Ive won none

[edgy cobalt]

you practically have every limited character and their sigs

and I thought I was decently lucky overall (72/80 pulls for s2 verina and 65 pulls for 5* sword)

[neat robin]

Mm. Yes
Tbh not doable if I didnt buy welkin

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/jinshi-jinxi-wuwa-wuwa-jinxi-jinxi-wuwa-gif-6888474920101217135

[edgy cobalt]

changli doesn’t exist she is truly fraudli

[neat robin]

I didnt like playing her

Love the animations
Did not like how the basic / skill buttons changed depending on her combo

[lucid pebble]

I like Changli.

Fastest farmer.

Forte is AoE nuke.

R is AoE nuke.

Refreshes nuke.

Nuke nuke nuke.

https://tenor.com/view/changli-wuthering-waves-wuwa-wuwa-changli-wuthering-waves-changli-gif-4082976246969266850

[winged belfry]

Yeah, she is really good in overworld

[dire river]

can equip rider for fast travel too

[queen hollow]

I pulled her and never play her

Jinhsi with zhezhi just feels superior idk

[edgy cobalt]

it is superior

and then skeeper will just creep everyone for movement

[queen hollow]

Also look how cute she is

How could that not be better

[edgy cobalt]

I like yinlin more

https://tenor.com/view/yinlin-wuwa-wuthering-waves-kuro-kuro-games-gif-6872745150005387563

[neat robin]

Does she need skill too?

[dense elbow]

Not rly her skill is just the initial cast

Then everything else is under forte

[burnt shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/mrpokke-gif-5189420829856872386

[dire river]

did i just waste all my stam getting that to level 10?

[dense elbow]

😭

skill dmg =/= skill talent

otherwise zhezhis basics would be stupidly important when its also all her forte and ult

[dire river]

it's ok... she's my wife. I'll max out her basic and intro too.

just to clarify though... when she does those attacks after skill... are those BA or...?

[dense elbow]

skill dmg but basic attack animation

[dire river]

i mean are they affected by her basic attack levels or?

[dense elbow]

no, forte

[dire river]

i already leveled skill, forte and ultimate to 10. does that mean she's done?
Still can't clear middle tower though. pairing with yuanwu and baizhi they just don't do damage

[lucid pebble]

Aren’t they basic damage but skill forte animation?

[dense elbow]

no? she deals full skill dmg during her aerial basics

which is why they dont trigger mortefi nor the battle pass claymore

[lucid pebble]

She deals basic attack damage.

[dense elbow]

???

this is zhezhi

not jinhsi

😭

the convo was on jinhsi i used zhezhi as an additional comparison coz all her dmg is basic attack dmg

[lucid pebble]

[clear stump]

Ain't no way camellya uses sword

[knotty fiber]

You technically only need BA and Skill at lv1

Those are useless (most of the time) thanks to this game being so heavily dependent on forte

[dire river]

[torn tapir]

Who should I build

[dense elbow]

if u want a full team for encore, sanhua

if u want a full team for havoc mc, danjin

both can use 5pc moonlit clouds + impermanence heron main echo

just one prefers havoc 3 costs and the other prefers ice 3 costs obviously

atk bit worse but universally usable

[rotund drum]

we're getting camellia as havoc soon apparently so might as well build danjin

[dense elbow]

yeah her original kit was havoc sword so

[rotund drum]

reception to boresleeper and flophu was probably bad

if they're rushing her out early

[queen hollow]

What’s the consensus on shorekeeper build?

[edgy cobalt]

no consensus yet

[queen hollow]

Imma hold onto this then

[torn tapir]

I'M NOT READY FOR 🐪 LYA

[midnight bloom]

Did anyone notice any change?

[dense elbow]

havent gone looking

wuthering.wiki hasnt updated so

annoying for me to look thru changes

[hollow gorge]

LYA - Ling Yang arrival

[torn tapir]

I'm guaranteed

[edgy cobalt]

need that lingyang uninstall gif again

[opaque flume]

My whale friend is asking what the best BP weapon is

Guys

[edgy cobalt]

the ones that have crit

[dense elbow]

they all tend to be the best 4 star weapon for characters unless ur jinhsi so

[sweet coral]

Gonna overcap when S6 is avaliable

I should probably farm a Crit DMG Dreamless

[marble charm]

Seems its just a bunch of translation fixes

[midnight bloom]

there was a change in c5 of sk it seems

[marble charm]

Bruh, they buffed her second most useless sequence

Also they still havent fixed the crit rate error in the liberstion

Also I think they changed youhu's s2

[quasi sable]

@ornate basalt

Prepare the savings

[ornate basalt]

Yeah I saw that last night

[quasi sable]

Ah damnit

I was late

[marble charm]

Lol

[opaque flume]

sorry guys i slept on yuanwu

hes actually a crazy buffer

what weapon should i use on hiim

[winged belfry]

Originite: Type IV - 3 star weapon

[opaque flume]

why?

[winged belfry]

because his damage is completely irrelevant

and that weapon heals

so it allows him to proc healing set

[opaque flume]

isnt the energy regen set

just as good

[winged belfry]

you usually want both

[opaque flume]

unless im tripping

ya im running baizhi yuanwu rn or verina yuanwu with jinshi

[winged belfry]

and you'll go sustainless anyway

[opaque flume]

its outdamaging my one with yinlin

which is cool

[edgy cobalt]

kinda hardge to fill his concerto bar to make use of the moonlit set

[opaque flume]

?

you just

e then ult

[edgy cobalt]

because it would mean more field time using him

[opaque flume]

takes like 2 seconds

ult lowers defense anyways no point in not using it

[winged belfry]

it's more than 0.5s it takes to proc healing set

[edgy cobalt]

you said, "isn't the energy regen set just as good"
I say, it is not because it means using his outro

to take advantage of the set

and that would mean
longer field time to fill his concerto

[winged belfry]

yup

[edgy cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-do-you-understand-jojos-bizarre-adventure-anime-slime-gif-17398513

[opaque flume]

i mean dont you want to use his outro anyways for lower defense

on

stuff

[winged belfry]

and usually people aren't building him at all

so he has like 1k HP

[edgy cobalt]

again, longer field time to get to his outro

[winged belfry]

so he dies if he stays for longer than that absolute minimum on field

[edgy cobalt]

oh yeah and I keep yuanwu at lvl1
takes 20 seconds longer in my jhsi team but if it means freeing up a slot then I'm chilling

with glow set you just do the usual pop E and Q and then rotate out of him and you get your atk% buff from the glow set easily

do you get me?

[opaque flume]

ya but impertinance heron + er set is 12% dmg and 22.5% atk

• defense reduction from outro

so idk

i feel like the amount of buffs you get outweighs it at some point

[winged belfry]

you can put it on your healers

[edgy cobalt]

your rots w/ yw would usually be
jhsi -> yw pop E and Q -> verina rot w/ Qheron to outro -> back to jhsi and repeat

[opaque flume]

ya but with maracato anyways he gets his concerto pretty quick

if you e then q

[edgy cobalt]

mmmm if you wanna work it around like that then sure

so I'm assuming you'll do jhsi -> verina -> yw -> back to jhsi if you insist on yw moonlit

[opaque flume]

ya

cause verina outro is teamwide

no reason to do her last

[neat robin]

Gimme xiangli yao rn

Ive been prefarming some upgrade stuff for him already

[edgy cobalt]

I'm not a marcato truther so I've just been doing what I originally did whenever I use yw for fun

[hollow gorge]

Phew, got my 30 on Android. Not that hard after nerf of the Scar

[frosty escarp]

based mobile player

[edgy cobalt]

first one I've seen did a 30 star

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/jinshi-jinxi-wuwa-wuwa-jinxi-jinxi-wuwa-gif-6888474920101217135

[opaque flume]

Do y’all think they will ever add individual rewards for each UL

[edgy cobalt]

probably not because that's what the level bundles are for

what they could hopefully add are pulls for ascending characters

[opaque flume]

I mean but it’s kinda lame how you legit just get nothing for all the non mod5=0 levels

lol

[edgy cobalt]

because it gets made up for you with those bundles

[opaque flume]

I mean the bundles are decent

[edgy cobalt]

would be broken if we get a bundle every UL

I don't mind it
that we get it every 10 UL in the beginning and then for each 5 UL at the end since it takes a lot of exp to lvl up at the end

those last 3 give 5 limited pulls each so I'll take it

[opaque flume]

5 whole pulls

Yippee

[edgy cobalt]

wuwa is stingy with pulls now because its doing the genshit strat

[opaque flume]

Ya it’s lame

Fr

[edgy cobalt]

getting into the reruns this early
whereas hsr has to justify its influx of double characters by giving more pulls

and now 2.6 will have its first one limited 5 star

[neat robin]

Id like to see more chars. But when you technically dont need many at all, idk
Its not like theres as strict element requirements in wuwa

[edgy cobalt]

just don't fight enemy with same element
or havoc & spectro against scar

and you're good

the comps we have should last us a year so it comes down to fortifying it or introducing more comp possibilities
like with xly I'll have 4 teams to choose from now

[neat robin]

Gives us time to go for weapons too

[edgy cobalt]

damn I already got this like like 20 ULs ago so it wasn't even impressive

[hollow gorge]

Tbh, the whole system is not great. And it's not great in Genshin, wuwa devs took it and didn't improve it in any way

[neat robin]

Wuwa ul is 15 more limited pulls than genshin gave us
I dont really see the problem

[edgy cobalt]

ninjy I don't wanna poke on you again for fun but
I see two people beating toa on mobile now
when will you be the 3rd 😔

[neat robin]

When I decide to lv10 the important fortes

[hollow gorge]

The system is pointless, it doesn't really have a lot of relevance to the game, you could take it out from either genshin or wuwa and it won't change much

[edgy cobalt]

max out jhsi circuit for sure

[neat robin]

I have a grand total of 2 chars with 2 lv10 fortes, eveyrone else in under lv6s

[edgy cobalt]

went form 190k -> 230k

no sig and bad build btw

[neat robin]

Nah, with those tuners? Its helpful

500 tuners is what. 250 tacet runs? Give all the free ones

[edgy cobalt]

250 tacet runs? do the math again

aka remove the 0

[hollow gorge]

They could give it away through any other means. This whole "progression" doesn't really have any import

[neat robin]

No I’m trying to figure out the stam required and brain is adding zeros

[edgy cobalt]

mmmm

[neat robin]

1500 stam

[edgy cobalt]

25 x 60 yep

[hollow gorge]

Except maybe to give an illusion of progression

[edgy cobalt]

they should just give us another selector at UL80

[neat robin]

Does it matter? Its free shit

[edgy cobalt]

I'll take s3 verina pls and ty

[neat robin]

Always something to complain about

[edgy cobalt]

just need s4 and nothing else matter

if it's genshit I will be a d1 hater
if it's wuwa I will be a d3 hater

[neat robin]

I’m on s1 verina rn

[edgy cobalt]

s2 means skeeper is lowkey skipper (I will still pull her)

[hollow gorge]

It's just one more menu that takes your attention away from actual gameplay

[neat robin]

No?
You play the game. You progress. Milestone? Oh lookie free bonus

[hollow gorge]

In Genshin it made sense, because the game had zero gameplay after initial exploration

[edgy cobalt]

ye I really don't think it's supposed to be the main motivation to keep playing the game

[hollow gorge]

It's just a bad gamedesign derived from mobile gaming

[neat robin]

I have guaranteed skeeper too
If only so I can stop using baizhi with jiyan

[hollow gorge]

You can do milestones and progression in a better way

[neat robin]

Its literally free stuff. They could have done nothing

This is hardly the first game that adds bonuses on certain levels. Fairly common thing

[edgy cobalt]

[hollow gorge]

They could have given that free stuff in any number of engaging ways. Like, for example data bank progression is decently made and integrated with the game process

[neat robin]

Okay and you level up no matter what you farm

Its a bonus for just playing their game

[edgy cobalt]

I personally wouldn't change anything drastic with the level bundle pack, I don't really care about it being improved

[hollow gorge]

The whole system is a crutch for multi tiered rewards and world levels which is why it's not great

It's like saying that Battlepass is a good system, because it's just free stuff, but the system is bad in multiple ways

[neat robin]

The level bonus is fine
What they needed to improve was going from sol6 -> 7 basically added no extra rewards except things are harder

[edgy cobalt]

you're a game dev for kurogames, say you dislike the level bundle and battle pass system (personally I don't mind it cuz its the shitty standard for gacha gaming that I'm used to it), what would you do to improve it?

or change it altogether?

[hollow gorge]

Well, I would put more attention to data bank system for starters. It 8nvolves echo collection and exploration and a natural extension for it

[edgy cobalt]

good starting thought I do like the data bank system when starting out

unfortunately its dead to me after maxing it out though so it comes down to waiting for future patches that expands on it

[hollow gorge]

Yeah, because devs put it into the game as an afterthought it feels

If you do these collection systems properly, they are engaging for a long time

[neat robin]

It felt a bit of an introduction to the game
But they could expand on more challenges

[hollow gorge]

Like give echoes some parameters that have cosmetic value, but people will still enjoy getting a unique echo

Then put systems around these parameters, like gathering echoes within a certain parameter window

And so on

Then extend the way you use echoes in overworld

[neat robin]

Hit a 290k nuke with max forte

[hollow gorge]

Devs are already doing it, but it would be nice to have a separate echo usage for exploration that triggers a different cool down or has no cool down at all

So you can have multiple active echoes for exploration purposes

Let ppl level up exploration effectiveness of echoes through data bank progression for each echo individually.

So you can level echo duration, range, or even discover new echo modes etc

That's what I call a decent progression system that is integrated with gameplay. So it benefits from you playing the game and you improve your gameplay through it

[neat robin]

Still missing cr on one of her 3costs but didnt want to drop er any more than it is

[hollow gorge]

My ZZ is doing great so far. I wish I was as lucky with my Jiyan echoes, I think I spent 5-6 times as much echo xp and farm on him, and he is worse

[edgy cobalt]

W

[hollow gorge]

It's funny how my earliest characters (Jiyan and HMC) for whom I spent as many resources as for all other characters combined still have bottom echoes.

[neat robin]

I’m proud of my jiyan

Still has a but of space to improve but I’m happy

[hollow gorge]

Farming for my Jiyan was such a miserable experience I think I will never get a main carry with big ER requirements in this game

[edgy cobalt]

xly who’s free:

[hollow gorge]

I will skip the dude probably. Don't have resources for his sig, don't have a good weapon for him otherwise, don't really like an electro set

[edgy cobalt]

you would run lingering tunes if you have his sig 👀

[hollow gorge]

Oh, yeah, I forgot. Lingering tunes is the best set in-game tbh. Mech echo is so good

[neat robin]

I’m getting sig but aint refarming a whole tunes set

Sig with void is gonna be better than any 4* weapon anyways

[edgy cobalt]

I just need a 3 cost and then its minmaxing

because god knows how much ER I really need so I'll try to push 120% and then call it a day

while maintaining a 70:270 crit ratio

[lucid pebble]

I've been trying to get double crit CR lumen for 2 weeks.

[neat robin]

Wow I love using jinhsi in tower 😃

[neat robin]

24/30 tower I just. My encore sucks

I hate fighting scar 😭

[edgy cobalt]

no your encore looks fine? just copy yumi rotation

I even ran baizhi lol

[neat robin]

What do I do with all my 20 riders

When I already have a perfect one

I’m supposed to be saving mats for xy and here I am upgrading other things

[wraith steeple]

how?

[neat robin]

String, 4pc moonlit

[wraith steeple]

what's the best way to get mats for artifacts????

[neat robin]

Farm too many tacet fields

Also only put +5, if its not a crit at start, its garbage

[neat robin]

And ul65 (I think) was 500 tuners

And buy them from tower & realm shops

[wraith steeple]

oh ok so I've been doing that

[neat robin]

You can break down useless +5 or higher

Instead of hoarding them until feeding off

[wraith steeple]

wym?

[neat robin]

When you ‘trash’ upgraded echos it’ll just give you back the partial tubes & tuners back and get rid of the echo

[dire river]

I need a sub dps for jinhsi she's not strong enough to carry yuanwu and baizhi to 30* tower

[edgy cobalt]

yuanwu is fine, where is your verina

[dire river]

Stuck with jiyan and mort on the other side

Waiting on shore keeper

[wraith steeple]

oh shit....ty i did not know that

[lament shuttle]

29/30 this week and last

[edgy cobalt]

which one is missing a star

[lament shuttle]

Scar. I’m like 10 seconds off

[hollow gorge]

Try running Jihnsi+ZZ+yw, was good enough for me, and leaves Verina open for Encore

[neat robin]

Yeah I could try

[neat robin]

This specifically is a visual glitch when breaking a toughness bar and then everything goes all goopy

Too much input at once idk

Mobile things

[lament shuttle]

Xiangli yao free tomorrow for me

Weird we get him before his banner or his sig banner

[marble charm]

changli yao or xiangli?

[lament shuttle]

I really wanna ban you rn

🫠

[lament shuttle]

@solemn robin thoughts

[marble charm]

lol

[solemn robin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-stare-stare-animal-funny-gif-21869355

[dense elbow]

xiangli-ng

[hollow gorge]

Wuthering waves lore is cooking, actually correct physics /j

[edgy cobalt]

sounds like u could clutch it

[lament shuttle]

Maybe but tbh I’ll retry with xiangli yao and I think it should be good

[edgy cobalt]

sounds like a plan

[burnt shoal]

xiangling yaoyao

[lucid pebble]

Jinhsi solo carrying the middle tower with a level 40 electrodad and level 40 Baizhi.

https://tenor.com/view/jinshi-jinxi-wuwa-wuwa-jinxi-jinxi-wuwa-gif-6888474920101217135

Meanwhile Changli, ZZ, tall Xiao, and Yinlin all struggling in the base 2 towers.

[rotund drum]

who is tall xiao

just call him lancer like everyone else

[lucid pebble]

Who the fuck is lancer?

I’m sorry, I don’t speak weeb.

[edgy cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/lancer-fate-gif-22161477

[lucid pebble]

[edgy cobalt]

definitely much more recognizable than tall xiao tbf

[lucid pebble]

He’s not even green.

[edgy cobalt]

green or diff color but lookalike

[rotund drum]

you cant tell from that clip but he has the same anime man-ponytail thing that jiyan does

[hollow gorge]

Tall Xiao, lancer. Just call him dragonboy

[rotund drum]

and also summons dragons

its a pretty blatant ripoff

[hollow gorge]

Tbh, Jiyan has typical Chinese design of a fantasy hero

[edgy cobalt]

generic general

[rotund drum]

automod lol

klee b&

[neat robin]

I cant wait for xy

Gonna use him overworld nonstop

4 more days..

[hollow gorge]

Why is he good in ow?

[neat robin]

Punchy

I honestly dont like jinhsi

Normals suck, and way too overkill with her skill nuke

Love her for bosses. Where shes meant for
Not for just running around

[hollow gorge]

Lmao, you need to play xy+yw, XYW team, or boondocks brothers

[neat robin]

I’ll have xy and yinlin

[hollow gorge]

I like playing Encore in ow. She shreds enemy packs with a single E. The only problem - short legs, but fine if paired with HMC

Honestly, who thought it was a good idea to make liliputs bad at exploration. If MHY needed realism, that was not a great way to go

[lament shuttle]

we get him tomorrow

[neat robin]

It says claim from sept 7-28 in the event notice

[lament shuttle]

oh ur right the event starts tomrorow but u can noly get him on the day his banner is out

[sweet coral]

Damn Xiangli Yao’s VA did great on his combat lines

[rotund drum]

what even is xiangli yao supposed to be anyway

is he a knight or a scientist or what

his design is all over the place

[hollow gorge]

Both, seems to be a self styled scientist-knight so an on spot design

[neat robin]

Isnt he like a military scientist

Or something

He works somewhere near mortefi I think

[rotund drum]

mortefi is clearly just a nerd though

xiangli yao looks like he's wearing some interpretation of futuristic knight armor

like gacha vane's outfit but sci-fi

but then he's always holding cubes and other sciencey stuff

i assume the cubes are for science since i cant think of any other reason for a straight man to carry a cube around in public

[hollow gorge]

He leads some RND division concerned with tacet research,if I remember correctly

[rotund drum]

oh so he's just another nerd

with a fancy outfit

sales might be approaching negative this banner

maybe the fujoshis will save it idk

[hollow gorge]

He also seems to be doing "heroing" on his off days.

[rotund drum]

at least mhy had the sense to make dr ratio kinda goofy looking so he wouldnt be just some incredibly bland nerd

[neat robin]

He sucks

I’m getting xy guantlets

[rotund drum]

he does but he still has more appeal than xiangli yaoyao

xiangling yaoyao

[hollow gorge]

The dude is basically a 4 star, what do you want from him.

At least he has 5 star stats

[sweet coral]

Scientist

[sweet coral]

Nah bro has proper 5 star budget

Look at his convene animation

[neat robin]

I loved his trailer

[sweet coral]

His is probably one of the best ones rn

Maybe second to Jinhsi

[hollow gorge]

Let's be honest, just look at Jihnsi or Changli and tell me they have the same budget as this guy

[sweet coral]

Jiyan and Yinlin’s looking like 4 stars compared to everyone after them 💀

[sweet coral]

Yes

[neat robin]

All xy budget went into the attack anims

[hollow gorge]

Kuro is so good at animating movesets they don't need budget for it, they do it in a sleep

[sweet coral]

Okay even though the actual animation is boring- the background Zhezhi’s is

So

Pretty

[neat robin]

The pull animation?

I love her attacks

[sweet coral]

Yeah

[rotund drum]

most of his animations are just generic lasers while he teleports around doing punching animations iirc

if you told me he was the starter story 4* for people to cope with in early game i would have believed it

[sweet coral]

I mean

What else are you supposed to do with fists and lasers

Chop your hands off and throw them at your enemies?

[rotund drum]

wukong has good fists and laser animations

also a chinese dev so no excuses there

[sweet coral]

Or cook them a medium rare stake with laser hands or something

[sweet coral]

Wtf is Wukong

[rotund drum]

the best selling game in the world

[neat robin]

Lol

[rotund drum]

unironically

it even beat banana

[neat robin]

Thats not number 1

I’ll believe you if the green bar doesnt continue to steadily drop

New game hype is always there

[sweet coral]

What

[rotund drum]

its a single-player game so its gonna drop

retail sales were good though i think

it outsold elden ring pretty easily

[neat robin]

So not best selling

[rotund drum]

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/09/black-myth-wukongs-sales-top-18-million-in-two-weeks-on-ps5-pc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

we'll have to see where it ends up but it's probably gonna be up there

that list starts at 23 million for lifetime sales and wukong is already at 18 million in 2 weeks

[neat robin]

Why are we also comparing a mobile game to a pc/console only one

[sweet coral]

Oh it’s the Chinese monkey

[neat robin]

You complain about wuwa animations but they need to work on mobile devices

[hollow gorge]

While Wukong is good, it's not really that good. There is a lot of Chinese buying the game because finally a Chinese standalone game is making waves

[rotund drum]

there's a swamp with poison spiders

[neat robin]

??

[hollow gorge]

Just to see how popular the game in the west check twitch popularity. 35k viewers total rn is good, but not great

Elden Ring currently has 28k viewers, with a new DLC that released almost 3 months ago

[rotund drum]

well yeah they even got GRRM specifically to appeal to the western market

if they had gotten benny lava or something it'd be all indian players instead

[hollow gorge]

I mean... GRRM won't carry the game beyond initial sales and couple of weeks

People are watching and playing ER not because there is GRRM (not) involved

[rotund drum]

i actually know a lot of people who dont play video games but got elden ring because of grrm

or they play video games but only casually

madden tekken etc

[hollow gorge]

Yes, and if the game was bad it wouldn't have had player staying power that it has

And I think Wukong doesn't have that

[rotund drum]

it has about as much as any souls game i think

the number of players who keep playing souls games for pvp is relatively small

its not like an infinite grind game where they keep trickling in new gear and raids to keep people farming

like monhun or w/e

so its expected that it'll drop off

initial sales is what matters

[hollow gorge]

Initial sales is what matters? Only if you are an investor or sitting on a board of directors

Hopefully, the studio will use this money to make an actual great game, they have potential

[rotund drum]

you seem butthurt that wukong is doing well

are you an elden shill

[hollow gorge]

Not really

[hollow gorge]

No, I am Gothic 2 shill, and Elden Ring just happen to have the same energy, which I enjoyed.

[rotund drum]

theres a lot of elden simps out there

you can point out the bad framerates and recycled bosses and nonsensical plot and they will rage and write you essays about how you're wrong

there being 5 different dungeons that are just the rearrangements of the same generic catacombs tileset with the same two godskin bosses in different configurations is peak game design let me tell you why

[hollow gorge]

If anything, I was always a FromSoftware hater, because they never make KBM support and are being obstinate about having their ugly console UI

[rotund drum]

this 2022 game ran fine for me after i upgraded to a 3090 and tripled my shader cache buffer size skill issue

the lore behind the random village full of dancing women that has nothing whatsoever to do with anything else in the game is actually super deep did you even watch mattjestic's video bruh

[hollow gorge]

Apparently you missed all the good things in ER, but I don't blame you

[rotund drum]

there were some good parts but the filler open world stuff wasnt it

a lot of the random settings just felt like them trying to come up with random spooky stuff for a zone and throwing it in with no context

like the random dancing women village or the village of flies or the frenzied flame village

you just go in and everyone's evil and you're like wow this is spooky

then you pick up the talisman at the end of the it and it has absolutely nothing to do with anything else

[hollow gorge]

If you didn't come out from the first castle, saw the breathtaking view of Liurnia Lakes and thought that this world is great, your gaming is lacking

[rotund drum]

iirc i saw the view and was like this looks like a new zone i better go back and clear the rest of the current one first

then i went to castle morne and the npc was like the beastmen are attacking

we must kill he beastmen

and you're like ok and you kill the beastmen

and thats the end of that plotline

"castle under attack by monsters" is a pretty standard trope in fantasy rpg games at least

its the areas where they're clearly just throwing in random stuff so users will make zanzibart videos about it that stand out as low effort

[hollow gorge]

Well, it's a sandbox, you make your own story. You didn't apparently, move on. FromSoftware will keep making great games with non-existent story, shitty UI and troll design. Eventually one of them will get you. Or maybe not

[rotund drum]

ok shill confirmed

[hollow gorge]

Sure. But you could do better

[rotund drum]

like wukong

[hollow gorge]

If you like Wukong, good for you. It's enjoyable game, which does a lot of things right

[rotund drum]

the only gripe i have with wukong really is that the framegen is really buggy and you get framegen artifacts even when it doesnt need to gen frames

and the weapon moveset options are too limited

[hollow gorge]

But it doesn't have a longevity of a truly great game. Maybe with a next game from that studio. They did make a good introduction for themselves

[rotund drum]

there are areas that are really intensive and the fps drops so you need to turn the framegen on but other areas where you're already getting 60 with it off and turning it on just adds artifacts

[winged belfry]

Yeah, the same village that has a heretical flame hidden there, and a cult discipline sent to get it.

Why do I even bother explaining lore to so someone willfully blind

There are dozens of zanzibart moments in Elden Ring

Dominika village isn't one of them

[rotund drum]

how do you explain the crazy murder women then

or the random dungeons full of pot monsters in the dlc

or the village full of mutant fly men

or the village in the middle of nowhere that just has a bunch of guys shooting yellow frenzy lasers at you

or the guy who literally goes forgive me zanzibart and becomes dormamu

and then is never heard from again

[winged belfry]

Godflaying disciple converted them to godflaying cult. But instead if demigods, they've turned to flaying local nobles.

[winged belfry]

That's is actually one of most important points of DLC. Hornsent culture had a belief that men can become become something and achieve godhood

[rotund drum]

i dont see how either of those things are relevant in any way to the main plot or any side plot other than that they're spooky villages

and spooky villages need spooky things

[winged belfry]

They've done so by flesh rituals. Putting people in jars was the predominant way. It was supposed to turn them to "saints", that would become something greater

In fact the high priestess of hornsent were made that way

And whole of Enir ilim was build upon heaps of flesh, melded together into spiral

[rotund drum]

this is like peak zanzibart

[winged belfry]

But to do so, they needed a glue to meld bodies together

And Shaman people were perfect for that

[rotund drum]

they literally put a mob in a pot and you're writing essays about saints and shit

[winged belfry]

So they've killed all of Marika's people for that

If you've read some item descriptions or listened to some dialogues, maybe you too would have understood that

[winged belfry]

Entire 3 located of the dlc are dedicated to lore line

There are some zanzibart moments

Mostly about Midra

But pot/shaman/hornsent plot line is like one that's by far most developed in entire DLC

[rotund drum]

do the fire head zanzibart guy next

he literally goes zanzibart forgive me

[winged belfry]

Nope, there is very little to go about Midra. Like there is nothing concrete. Which while technically can be a fitting excuse "hornsent inquisition just purged all records of how this came to be" we literally have just some lines that point to some things.

Midra is closest thing to zanzibart moment there is in game. Rest of DLC seems to be at least partially connect with each other, without too much of holes

[rotund drum]

thats actually still pretty zanzibart for a guy whose entire in-game exposure is that he lives in the woods with a bunch of monsters that can only be killed by parrying and he goes forgive me and powers up to ssj4

if you want actual peak writing in a souls game there's zhu bajie

that guy is hilarious

he just shames you constantly for being bad at video games

if you miss a parry he tells you to time it better

and tells you you deserved to get hit

if you get frozen he calls you the great sage equal to frozen

and if you use the clone summon he laughs at how weak your clones are

[winged belfry]

Wukong isn't a Souls game

[rotund drum]

this is what souls players actually believe

[knotty fiber]

my friend told me that's every Japanese game of the genre

some a certain Yakuza game even put "real yakuza use a gamepad" in the intro of the game

[knotty fiber]

the funny thing is DLC's main story is actually so bad and it's the small info pieces that are interesting to read

[rotund drum]

imagine being a yakuza and not even using a gamepad

all your anikis would laugh at you

[edgy cobalt]

black mid wukong

[small bronze]

do stories of the featured character actually dissapear with the character?

i always saw timers on them but thought its just to show when the character itself is gone

[edgy cobalt]

not at all, pretty sure it's common for gachas to spotlight those permanent additions and set those timers

[small bronze]

im doing zhezhi story quest cause i was scared its gonna dissapear tomorrow

and i wanna punch her

also i thought yao's c1 would be better considering they giving him out for free

to boost actual sales

might just get his sig

[rotund drum]

wait till you get to XY's

they literally make you interact with a thing, press skip, interact with another thing, repeat 50x

then his final boss fight he has like no attack and does like 2 damage per hit in order to drag the fight out while dialogue plays

[small bronze]

i dont mind the story quest outside zhezhi i just despise her

[rotund drum]

zhezhi's is kinda funny cause its just classic clueless protag

it looks like the victim was killed with a giant paintbrush

who here has a giant paintbrush

cant think of anyone better ask some painters they might know

[edgy cobalt]

same

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1208158914223542292/1281450446019362877/image.png?ex=66dbc33a&is=66da71ba&hm=3b2ae265f99c16cbcb84e22e606e1c278468235879d89466f628cf130b9c0c3c&

[small bronze]

we ever getting any improvements to 3 cost element farming

i got lucky with changli id say

but while i love jiyan the 3 costs are so annoying to farm

[small bronze]

damn i suck i cant beat the aix in tower

[edgy cobalt]

mhm with those stats you should be beating aix lol

[small bronze]

i use changli on that floor with yinlin

i barely fail

like 10 seconds short

for 3 stars

[edgy cobalt]

ye ngl idk anything about changli cuz I skipped her

should be cakewalk with jiyan if you know how to rotate with him and mort

[small bronze]

skill issue i suppose

i didnt try jiyan

[edgy cobalt]

if you know your rotations then should be fine

esp for changli
like I see people run her literal solo just fine

[small bronze]

yea idk i feel like i was utilizng most stuff

my changli is juiced shes c1 with sig too

[edgy cobalt]

https://youtu.be/tlE05NMpSS8?si=ACA49hayOe4L-z5p

middle tower

[small bronze]

dafuq my changli is better than his on that vid

and he does that

i gotta watch the actual fight lol

[edgy cobalt]

I see that person around on stormy and chokke server

[small bronze]

but like idk its not that i die

i just run out of time

welp ill try again soon

[hollow gorge]

Yeah, but Yakuza is beatem up, they don't require precise input for a proper experience

I didn't have issues with Yakuza UI either. Considering that ER still has UI issues that are simply the result of no adaptation to mouse after so many years of developing games, I find it pure obstinacy on the side of FromSoftware not to have a proper KBM support

[hollow gorge]

Pretty sure they target c6 spenders who would skip the guy otherwise. And when you get him for free and maybe like his movesets you think: hey, maybe I should get his c6 after all

[lament shuttle]

Finally xiangli Yao tmr

[lament shuttle]

I think they know this is a low sales patch and the next one will be $$$

Two banners this patch with lesser popular characters

[rotund drum]

zhezhi was probably thrown in last minute to compete with emilie

then they upgraded xiangling yaoyao to 5* so the giveaway would seem more generous

im guessing they probably fell asleep for a while after yinlin salvaged their numbers a bit and zzz's initial revenue flopped

then freaked out when zhuyuan banner rocketed it back to the top

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/jinshi-jinxi-wuwa-wuwa-jinxi-jinxi-wuwa-gif-6888474920101217135

[small bronze]

geshu lin when

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-nonono-wuwa-вува-вузеринг-gif-9481277465090594494

[marble charm]

so is no one gonna talk about the fact that the new beta patch for wuwa came out today?

[small bronze]

i dont even know how to check this

[lament shuttle]

Notable changes ?

[marble charm]

Just to tldr the changes:

1. Shore's sig had the concerto generation passive moved to only need you to cast the liberation
2. The liberation's stage 3 buff got changed to up to 20% crit dmg
3. At s1, using the enhanced intro no longer destroys the liberation field
4. S2 was changed to give 20% atk whenever the liberation field is up
5. S3's condition was changed from intro to liberation

[lament shuttle]

I recall Leifa saying she had mega concerto issues on first rotation and needed like r5 variation or r5 sig to make it smooth idk if this first change helps ?

[dense elbow]

its the amount of concerto generated she needs

not how its obtained

she needs that 16 concerto still afaik

[small bronze]

what role is shore

also didnt they say we gonna get more male characters

when is that happening

[lament shuttle]

She’s a 5* healer

That buffs atk and crit rate (based on her ER)

[edgy cobalt]

thanking god every day for giving me r5 variation on the first week

[small bronze]

what is mystery dreamland door

[lucid pebble]

To truly understand something.

You must put it in your mouth.

Go lick the door.

[neat robin]

Go in

They’re good. I think

I had it once

[lament shuttle]

@dense elbow does xiangli Yao need 30% er?

[dense elbow]

last calcs i saw he didnt rly need any??

pieces i have for him have some ER tho

[lament shuttle]

tenten vid said he needed 30% whats why

[dense elbow]

idk what tenten does anymore hes kinda just

there

doesnt hurt to have some but the yinlin teams i was looking at with some ppl needed negative ER on both of em

😭

[lament shuttle]

negative ER ?

my yinlin is running 5pc electro

[dense elbow]

as in they gained more than they needed for the rot

[lament shuttle]

o

[dense elbow]

idk if his energy values changed but idt they did

ill just be experimenting when i get in game

coz i have s1 zhezhi and depending on my rotation the energy doesnt always work out still

[lament shuttle]

youre gonna use her and yinlin with him ?

yeah I have no ER rolls at all

[dense elbow]

nah yinlin + verina

well

baizhi or verina depending on the tower rot

[lament shuttle]

yeah ok same

[dense elbow]

2pc 2pc 🤝

[lament shuttle]

until shorekeeper

[lament shuttle]

Farming the electro set is pain

[dense elbow]

electro set anoying anyways

[neat robin]

I have a full electro set
No 2pc 2pc…

Though I have a double crit mech so idk

5 void or 2/2 with his sig?

[lament shuttle]

You need to heavy atk it’s not so bad

At least on yinlin

[dense elbow]

afaik theyre pretty equal

with lingering being a tiny bit better assuming youre taking the field time

[neat robin]

Hmm. I need to check his cr after I get sig done

[lament shuttle]

I heard 5pc lingering is best (??

If you don’t swap out

[dense elbow]

mhm

[neat robin]

If I only have 60 cr on void I’ll see what I can do on 2/2

[dense elbow]

id just rather not have any restrictions like that and use 2pc2pc personally

[neat robin]

I was wondering about using 5 void and swapping a 3cost to atk%

[lament shuttle]

65 crit rate is enough surely

[dense elbow]

im planning for his sig anyways so

CR should be fine for me

[lament shuttle]

Hopefully he feels much better than cal

[neat robin]

I liked his little trial

I think
5 void build (with cdmg fortes) I have 64/256 crit

About 2.1k atk (tested it on r1 jinhsi)

I can sorta mix n match and see whats the best build + off piece

Both flautist suck…

[edgy cobalt]

even rexlent says 30% too

can prolly get away with less tbh

[lucid pebble]

Whel echoes.

[dense elbow]

wait @lament shuttle how do i get popularity i havent been playing

[neat robin]

…

Play the moon event

[lament shuttle]

just do the event lmao the moon one

[dense elbow]

ah

i thought the popularity thing was like

a worldwide thing

[lament shuttle]

6k i s super fast

like < 1 day

[dense elbow]

where everyone chips in and everyone gets him

[dense elbow]

ok not too bad then

[neat robin]

I gotta wait til after work tomorrow to claim him 😭

[dense elbow]

surely the timer doesnt mean its ending and just means thats when you can claim him

remaining is very misleading

[neat robin]

Maybe

Do the event before timer ends

Just in case

[wraith steeple]

wait what!?!?!

oh shit I gotta do the event

[rotund drum]

lol gl it takes like ten years even with skip

and its timegated anyway

[dense elbow]

ok we safe

wouldve taken about an hour maybe less if i wasnt talking on discord

[edgy cobalt]

yeah its ez just a bit boring

[lament thorn]

did u skip dialogue?

[dense elbow]

yeah i saw a bit of the event from a friend and just wanted to get it done coz i dont have much time

😔

[weary acorn]

The timer is for the Midli Yao release

[lament thorn]

ah

[tired zodiac]

is it better to go 44111 or 43311 on xiangli yao?

[edgy cobalt]

43311 will always be superior

[tired zodiac]

I see

[small bronze]

if my teams are jiyan mortefi baizhi /// changli yinlin verina any ideas who to put as a sub for yao?

do i just swap yinlin and put chixia in changli

or i guess encore?

[edgy cobalt]

changli encore is good
yinlin xyao is good

[small bronze]

i cant be farming all those fusion echoes god help me

mortefi changli encore

[edgy cobalt]

mort runs moonlit lol

[tired zodiac]

changli encore verina is good

verina outro, changli rotation, outro to encore, ult na E spam, switch to verina

[small bronze]

oh true i forgot i meant chixia too

i see zhezhi put in some teams too but im skipping herr

[barren drift]

W?

[frosty escarp]

yeah

only cdamage is low roll

thats a good piece

[dense elbow]

75 for his weapon good fucking god

😭

[wheat moon]

💀

[weary acorn]

Midli Yao indeed

Wuwa make a fucking event weapon

[small bronze]

time to open the game and try his weapon banner myself

0 pity since changli sig

les pray

yuanwu looking like he gonna use it

[small bronze]

i had to do 70

also who do people put as a third team healer slot

jianxin??

[dense elbow]

verina or baizhi

jianxin is my mob floor clearing healer

[small bronze]

i mean as third team as in that first is verina second baizhi

and then who

[dense elbow]

well yeah thats where i use jianxin but specifically only on floors 2 and 3

coz shes not rly an alternative for verina baizhi in the buffing department

but she gets the job done just for wiping adds

[small bronze]

xiangli should go one 3 cost ele% and one 3 cost atk?

[dense elbow]

afaik double ele% but atk% is viable

[small bronze]

on prydwen it says second atk but idk if thats a good site ive been using it

[dense elbow]

depends what set ur running ig

5 lingering is gonna have more ATK% than other builds

whereas 5 void has more dmg%

2pc 2pc is kinda a mix of both

[lament shuttle]

Is he out for NA yet

[small bronze]

free

perfect i was missing for a 10 pull

[neat robin]

So tunes + 2 ele%
void + 2 ele% or ele%atk% depending on subs

Assuming sig

[small bronze]

i didnt even think of trying lt

i will see if i get any good pieces on it

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/jinshi-jinxi-wuwa-wuwa-jinxi-jinxi-wuwa-gif-6888474920101217135

[leaden moat]

What’s xiangli Yao power level ?

[lucid pebble]

2

[neat robin]

I’m stuck at work another FOUR HRS

I just want xy

[lament shuttle]

Out now?

[dense elbow]

should be

was 10am EU server time

[neat robin]

11am on NA

If the banner starts right after zz ends

[lament shuttle]

Well I get to lay in bed for a bit longer then

[marble charm]

Lol

[rotund drum]

hopefully they buff him before 11am

[lament shuttle]

If he does similar dmg to other top comps it’ll be nice

[neat robin]

I dont know how trustworthy pwydwen calcs are

But s0 xy = s0 encore
s6 xy = s6 jiyan

His sequences more than double his dps

[rotund drum]

double for s6 is kinda bad honestly

oh danjin is on his banner

should i risk it

[lilac hare]

Is his weapon worth it? I only have s1 bp

…and no yinlin

[clear stump]

With lvl 60 stonard.

Skeeper please save this boy crit rate

[rotund drum]

man i was not expecting much from this guy but his energy regen is memes

this is worse than jiyan

[neat robin]

Ah yes. Doubling like changli & jinhsi dps is bad
Meanwhile encore goes from 32k s0 to 44k s6

[rotund drum]

jinhsi mostly peaks at e1 as well iirc

[neat robin]

@lilac hare they just posted different weapon dmg earlier
s1 to sig is pretty significant

[lilac hare]

Pity is 54 in the weapon banner

Can’t risk shorekeeper though, he will use s1 stonard unfortunately

[spice finch]

How to use xl yao?

[lucid pebble]

Build ER.

Press Q.

Go ham.

[spice finch]

After Q what do I click?

Basic attack?

[edgy cobalt]

iirc during ult its like
skill > ba > enhanced skill (skill + ba for input)
ba3 > enhanced skill
skill > ba > enhanced skill
for the 3 cubes

can always watch rexlent guides https://youtu.be/VYYVEEvATc4?si=6JWT3geNf0SvOeDw

he reiterates the same rot

[spice finch]

Thaaanks

[neat robin]

63.8 cr on my xy once this sig is maxed 😔

Gonna check 2/2 options
But I have to use a shitty flautist either way

66.2 cr on 2/2 build

[hollow gorge]

Encore is already good as is tbh

[neat robin]

Oh ik thats my point

Saying xy is bad for doubling his dps from 0-6

While encore is like.. 25% extra dps?

And shes still one of the best options

[hollow gorge]

Mind you, that's without a proper sig weapon for Encore. Like Stringmaster is very good, but not on a level of a tailored sig

[neat robin]

I just spent almost 1m credits and xy sig is only at lv71 rn

[edgy cobalt]

thank god 130% ER is just for noobs

115% is good enough with yinlin and baizhi/verina

but with my investment he barely 100s'd

so def a superior calcharo

[neat robin]

I have 110% I need at least one more er roll

[hollow gorge]

Calch is better drip though

[edgy cobalt]

it sucks, calcharo is just a sephiroth clone (so cool by default)

[edgy cobalt]

fosho look into one more er roll

but 130% is probably a noob/mobile player thing lolol

we are not that bad at the game I hope so

[neat robin]

I havent even used mine yet

Just got home

Pulled sig & started levelling it. Went broke

Hes lv1 with 1.2k atk and 62/235 rn

went with 2/2 build for now

[edgy cobalt]

we have similar stats I think for crit ratio because I went goofy ahh fodder

[rotund drum]

the male electro simps are funny

[edgy cobalt]

prolly everyone since xly is free

[rotund drum]

i have a bunch of 5*s i havent built

i threw some shit on jiyan so he can clear low TOA floors but thats about it

[neat robin]

24% skill & 18% lib dmg too

80/80 sig rn

Gonna farm the spectro & tunes tacet field after I get xy fortes done

[edgy cobalt]

cal forever lvl1

[neat robin]

My lv70 calcharo looking at me using a lv1 xy :

Lv50 xy, lv4 lib right now
(Lv90 scar weekly boss, not the realm one)

[hollow gorge]

My lvl60 Calch to XY: 👊? XY: 🤜🤛. Then both sit down on the bench

[hollow gorge]

Hmm, not bad. I wonder if he can replace HMC as ultbot in encore team

Though you do have his sig, likely not going for it

[neat robin]

I mean he actually benefits from yinlin outro too

But yeah. I like how he plays so went for sig

[hollow gorge]

Tbh, Calch is fun to play. But T cancel should have been part of his kit KEKW

Like all standard characters are well designed (even LY) but suffer from being underpowered. Except Encore who was buffed on release

[neat robin]

It also sucks because hes meant to quickswap with his clone too but

Then yinlin outro got nerfed

[limber imp]

Anyone have a shorekeeper guide

[hollow gorge]

They made his movesets too tight. Like to get 3 deathmessengers you need close to perfect exec. If you don't get 3 messengers you lose 20-30%dps (which you do if you dodge). Make his animations shorter, change 2-3 DMs per ult to 3-4 DMs, and Calch is a great fun unit

[hollow gorge]

There isn't much of a guide anywhere, since there isn't much to build on shorekeeper. She only needs ER on her healing set, that's all

[neat robin]

Or should have at least kept the high dmg multipliers when its so strict on rot

[edgy cobalt]

too early for me to find some, but you can always search yt vids for guides

[limber imp]

So rejuvenating glow with full ER and maybe healing bonus/hp?

What about weapons

[hollow gorge]

Sig or Variation afaik

[limber imp]

Alr ty

[queen hollow]

Is the BP weapon good for XY? I cannot be bothered to get his weapon with pretty women coming next patch

[neat robin]

Yeah its best 4*

[queen hollow]

Aight bet

[neat robin]

Unless you plan on getting the 5* standard

[queen hollow]

I haven’t used any of the BP boxes yet

I have the 5* standard gauntlets but they’re on jianxin

[neat robin]

Bp gauntlets give cr at least

And xy forte is +cdmg

[queen hollow]

Mhm

Time to use my boxes

[wraith steeple]

@neat robin how do you delete echoes into mats?

[neat robin]

If you go to the trash bin, select whatever garbage echos (have to be levelled) & then ‘remove’
This was a lv10 I scrapped (12.5k exp in the tubes)

Generally want to do it if you barely upgraded the shit echo to next level

Doesnt transfer any exp from partial level

[edgy cobalt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1208158914223542292/1282108903550619698/image.png?ex=66de2877&is=66dcd6f7&hm=af8142fea2db4653daa8e3cbcb02e58bf6a6178836607f1be8014249ee261033&

is it camellyover

[edgy cobalt]

ok

[wraith steeple]

for XY is it crit/the rest attack or crit/electro/atk atk atk/

and ty btw

[neat robin]

Tunes 3cost is 2 electro
Void 3cost is 2 electro or 1 electro, 1 atk if the subs are just really good on the atk%

[neat robin]

Lv70 xy with lv6 lib now
Out of wave boxes so gotta ascend for 80/80 tomorrow

[neat robin]

I wanna do this but I keep getting dreamless & no bell

[lament shuttle]

my XLY is doing 150k vs scar in tower good free unit

[hollow gorge]

Damn, unlucky. Would have been such a great Jiyan piece with CDMG

[hollow gorge]

Lmao, is it me, or XlY sounds like a pinball machine?

[marble charm]

How so?

[hollow gorge]

His lasers sound like bouncers in pinball

[dense elbow]

lvl 90 sig for +2% more crit rate

[lament shuttle]

It’s odd they gave such a good unit so early for free

[dense elbow]

real

bros very fkn good lol

[neat robin]

Maybe its just me

But that atk looks really low

Ngl I’m mostly just happy this means I’ll be able to farm both jinhsi & xy echos at the same field

[lament shuttle]

shes 80/90 weapon

[neat robin]

I have the same atk with a lv70/70 xy
80/80 weapon

I think my hyperfocus on jiyan at the start ruined my opinion on whats good
2.3k atk with 2 ele% 3costs

[lament shuttle]

mines at 2k

[neat robin]

Thats satisfying

After cdmg fortes I’m gonna be at 66/252 crit, and still missing cdmg on two echos

[lament shuttle]

Id have 2 crit rolls on each echo if i didnt need to sub some out for ER

[neat robin]

My mech rolls make me sad, had 9.3 cr and 11 lib%, but lowest roll cdmg and double def

Its always the last roll

[dense elbow]

lvl 80 without the atk forte so

[neat robin]

Echo looks fine at +15, send it to +25 and its def/hp rolls

[dense elbow]

also not many atk% rolls sadly

[dense elbow]

god i feel that 😭

[lament shuttle]

I yolo sent this from +10 ...