・wuwa-lounge

[dense elbow]

is so nice to play

[vapid river]

and jianxin?

or is 3rd a flex

[dense elbow]

i use verina 3rd slot if i can

otherwise baizhi

jianxin has very limited use for me

paired with havoc rover just for her ult at the start of a fight to group enemies

then she almost never sees the field again coz her damage and concerto gen are so low

😭

just turtle buff and leave

[vapid river]

rip

[edgy cobalt]

I want muh s1 encore

12% fusion dmg bonus will surely make a difference right

😂

[dense elbow]

😭

+1 2pc set bonus

[vapid river]

more dmg is still nice

[dense elbow]

i find it funny xiangli if ur not doing swap combos (idk if he has any that are meaningful) prefers lingering to electro set

coz his outro dmg is so high

and 2pc lingering 2pc electro is on par with 5pc electro assuming mech echo

as he has quite a bit of dmg bonus in his kit that 22% ATK is competitive

[vapid river]

i saw that with lingyang too

[edgy cobalt]

I alr have him prefarmed for 5pc electro with thundering lmao

lingyang def wants lingering

[vapid river]

is atk increase actually that much better

than glacio

[dense elbow]

lingyangs issue was that he didnt have a good active echo

not that 5 ice was bad on him

[vapid river]

so he just needs a new area

[dense elbow]

he just didnt have an echo he could use coz 90% of echoes cant be summoned in midair

[vapid river]

with a better 5* echo

[dense elbow]

but he got 2 good ice echoes last patch

[vapid river]

[dense elbow]

the lumiscale construct

[vapid river]

i forget you don't have to summon a 5*

[dense elbow]

and the ice dog

are very good

lumiscale on zhezhi is very good too

[vapid river]

i've just been using the bird

[dense elbow]

altho ice dog is kinda eh since it eats into lingyang field time

[vapid river]

imp heron

[dense elbow]

yeah if ur on clouds youd use heron 100%

im talking for 5pc glacio

[vapid river]

ah

true

[dense elbow]

coz before the only option rly was lampy and that thing was ass

[vapid river]

and zz's attacks also kinda make her float

[dense elbow]

and they had no good 3 cost alternatives

[vapid river]

lampy is so fucking goofy

it kinda fits lingyang's attack style

[dense elbow]

cant be swap canceled
stacking buff
long ass animations

[vapid river]

right?

[dense elbow]

he has no time to use it

😭

[vapid river]

all jumpy and shit

[dense elbow]

its so ass

[vapid river]

well yeah

but it's got stilts for legs

design wise i think it pairs well

[dense elbow]

like u still wanna farm it coz u need a 4 cost but u dont use it

[dense elbow]

fairs

[vapid river]

just not applicable

[dense elbow]

electro also doesnt have a good 4 cost active

but they have flautist

which is just

very very good

[vapid river]

i thought flautist got nerfed tho

3 attacks

instead of 10

[dense elbow]

its 10

[vapid river]

or w/e it was

oh?

[dense elbow]

hold the button it goes for longer

[vapid river]

[dense elbow]

[vapid river]

i don't want to do that

let me quick swap

and just let it stay on field

fs

[dense elbow]

you dont have to

hold the button as you swap

and it swap cancels

sticks around for all 10 hits

xD

[vapid river]

oh that's good then

[dense elbow]

about on par or better dmg than the 4 costs, generates concerto, and can be swap cancelled immediately

its great

my issue is getting a 2nd one with double crit now

otherwise imma have to run 2pc 2pc on xiangli and off piece my 2nd electro 3 cost with a 2nd bird

😭

[vapid river]

fuck those birds

the worst thing in the game to farm

after flautists

[dense elbow]

may run 2pc 2pc anyways just coz mech insta cast is so nice

but the concerto may be nice to outro on since xianglis outro skill is so good

[vapid river]

ye, is it worth swap cancelling zz

or actually getting her outro

i have 0 idea on how to play the pretty lady

[dense elbow]

she wants her outro

[vapid river]

i just swish the brush

[dense elbow]

its massive skill amplify

[vapid river]

res skill?

ig i could read what it does

[dense elbow]

mhm

its yinlin outro

but for skill and glacio

[vapid river]

[vapid river]

so wouldn't she pair really well with yinlin?

[dense elbow]

yinlin wants to swap around a lot so not necessarily

her main value rn is jinhsi

[vapid river]

oh true

that 150k crit

[dense elbow]

coz she has off field dmg which is considered coordinated attacks

[vapid river]

turning into 175k crit

[dense elbow]

187.5k*

[vapid river]

and jinhsi doesn't give a fuck

about being swapped

when where or however

[dense elbow]

well she has rly cool swap combos with yinlin

but when paired with zhezhi you dont swap

coz u want that amplify

[vapid river]

well for 14s

[dense elbow]

"or until they are switched out"

[vapid river]

yeah

you wouldn't switch

for 14 seconds

is the point

[dense elbow]

on jinhsi??

[vapid river]

this is jinhsi's wep

yeah

so regardless you'd stay on her till this was over

it's def more than enough time

to get the big hit off

too

[dense elbow]

you have more than enuf time for that yeah

there was talk of doing a full stack nuke immediately into a smaller one

[vapid river]

i really wanted to go all in

[dense elbow]

just coz the amplify will still be there

[vapid river]

on jinhsi

[dense elbow]

but

i havent been doing those rots

i do the one big nuke, immediately swap back out for a few stacks, then come back with another big nuke

[dense elbow]

idk if the double ft is worth it

[vapid river]

i like how easy it is to throw jue

[dense elbow]

didnt see ppl dig into it too much

[vapid river]

like a pokemon

and do your own thing

[dense elbow]

coz its so easy to just setup again

[vapid river]

true

[dense elbow]

real

[vapid river]

idk

i might actually bench my jiyan

[dense elbow]

i open my fights with jue into E1 then swap to verina lol

[vapid river]

and play around with jinhsi/zz

i haven't done much tower

but overworld stuff

is just

ult

[dense elbow]

neither i dont have the teams for it rn

[vapid river]

jue

[dense elbow]

😔

[vapid river]

e if things are still alive

[dense elbow]

my encore build isnt awful but fuck me 4 star weapons are

[vapid river]

ye, that's why i'm glad i have the 5* weps i have

the gun from standard

[dense elbow]

i have stringmaster but

[vapid river]

should be good enough

[dense elbow]

i cant use that on yinlin and encore at the same time

[vapid river]

just means they'll never get to play together

[edgy cobalt]

they share stringmaster for me yeah

[dense elbow]

but then ill never use one or the other

[vapid river]

should have got 2 stringmasters

[edgy cobalt]

or if I ever pair both (not gonna happen) then yinlin uses jinzhou

[dense elbow]

should have bought em for me

🥺

[vapid river]

i gotta buy my own

[dense elbow]

i need to get a cdmg 4 cost for xiangli too

coz his sig is CR

[vapid river]

[dense elbow]

💀

leave?

[vapid river]

it's my only good 4 cost

mephis

[dense elbow]

istg the roll chances do not feel like its highest for average roll then gets rarer the further on each end of the scale you go

[vapid river]

this is my other one

[dense elbow]

coz my pieces low roll

so fucking much

its so ridiculous

[vapid river]

i feel that

well with cr

[dense elbow]

i have almost nothing avg roll

[vapid river]

my cdmg rolls are usually pretty good

[dense elbow]

its all on the low end

[dense elbow]

yeah

its mainly the CR

[vapid river]

6.3

is my friend

😭

3 of my jinhsi's pieces have 6.3

fml

[wheat moon]

Gg

[dense elbow]

i think all my builds have minimum 6.3 CR on 3 pieces

[vapid river]

one is 8.1

and the other doesn't have any

[dense elbow]

chars like encore are 6.3 CR on all 5 fucking pieces

💀

[vapid river]

but idk

[wheat moon]

😭

[vapid river]

trying to get another piece

with 17.4cdmg

and cr

[wheat moon]

Cope

[vapid river]

idk if that's worth the headache

ngl

only 1 dead stat

surely they let us change 1 stat

[wheat moon]

How desperate are u for cr

[vapid river]

in the future

[edgy cobalt]

good ol 12.6cv rolls yes

[vapid river]

[vapid river]

on my jinhsi? not that desperate

i think she's doing okay

[dense elbow]

hey theyre useful at least

[wheat moon]

How ab others

[vapid river]

jiyan is okay

yinlin decent

[edgy cobalt]

I'm content with my 60:190s on jiyan and jhsi lol

no sig gang

[vapid river]

i think i'm going to trash my cal though

he's just a fucking headache

[edgy cobalt]

they buffed electro in right tower just for him

[dense elbow]

may as well keep the pieces

xiangli

[vapid river]

well yeah

i'll keep his echoes

even though they're kinda mid

okay ig it's just a 1 cost that kinda sucks

he's got pretty decent echoes actually

[edgy cobalt]

is he running verdent summit

[dense elbow]

u got a good flautist and 4 cost at least

[vapid river]

with these stats yeah

this is on age

which is dogshit

[edgy cobalt]

and you already got the crit dmg nodes right

I would be so content with a ratio like that ngl lmao

[dense elbow]

i mean ur missing 3 crit rolls on ur echoes so

[vapid river]

nah, he's missing 11.2

cdmg

so with the nodes

[edgy cobalt]

mine midcharo is just goated

[vapid river]

he'd be solid

[edgy cobalt]

who needs levels

[vapid river]

true

[dense elbow]

id load up and screenshot but

gone 3am and im boutta go to bed

😭

[vapid river]

i fucking hate

how his last inherent skill

is so dogass

[dense elbow]

thats fucking useless

like

[vapid river]

dmg reduc for 5s?

[dense elbow]

give him IR at least

[vapid river]

why even bother

GIVE HIM MORE DMG

that's his fucking job

[dense elbow]

like

[edgy cobalt]

[dense elbow]

if you got hit

you already took dmg

[vapid river]

^

[dense elbow]

the dmg reduction doesnt do anything

coz ur gonna get knocked back

then by the time ur fighting again

the dmg reduction is gone

[vapid river]

so dumb

i won't get that one

unless they rework it

[dense elbow]

waste of mats

[vapid river]

100% waste of mats

like

if it didn't cost a bell

[dense elbow]

i mean i havent even levelled my healers

[vapid river]

maybe

[dense elbow]

40/50 just for 1st passive

my verina is 46/50 just from natural exp

😭

coz i dont need the healing rly

just buffing

[vapid river]

i need credits

zz isn't going to talent up on her own

lazy artist

[dense elbow]

😔

aight eepy time now lmao

nini

[vapid river]

nini

[dense elbow]

need to stop watching UBW abridged lol

[vapid river]

i've been told that's the best season though

[dense elbow]

ubw goes hard

and the abridged version is great as well

[burnt shoal]

artist need funding rip

[queen hollow]

Don’t have a single atk sub

[neat robin]

Danjin so fun
But man the constant low hp

I’m not good enough at parrying

[spice finch]

I have skill issue. What ways can we parry? Is it only thru basic attack, char switch, echo skill?

Can reso skill parry?

[edgy cobalt]

sub 10, maybe I can go faster

[edgy cobalt]

yes, and ult too

some outros can parry like jiyan's as well

[uneven flame]

Though some characters like Zhezhi can't parry with basics at all. Encore unable to parry with her first few BA outside of burst as well. Rectifier skill issue

[neat robin]

Pistol basics dont parry

Some rectifiers can

[uneven flame]

I forgot pistols were even a thing.

[neat robin]

Chixia is boring
Aalto is fun but not as good damage

[edgy cobalt]

you mostly want encore in ult state anyways since you'll be quickswapping with sanhua and baizhi/verina outside of it

[opaque flume]

I use uh the wind woman

And she’s pretty good

[rotund drum]

danjin is pretty op in this event

zhezhi looks pretty much exactly the same from what i can tell

the premium 5*s are always the worst

kusogames doesnt want us having fun things

[blissful tulip]

I had really thought you were allowed to press E infinitely

[neat robin]

I wanted a trial yao

But they said have no fun

[edgy cobalt]

early september it is

[marble charm]

Still find it funny how bad void is for xly

[edgy cobalt]

need to see more sheets cuz I'm locked for void on xly

if we're really going lingering tunes then lmfao

[burnt shoal]

domain so tough

[marble charm]

Lingering has lower dpr but much higher dps

Since void's rotation is 2 seconds longer than lingering

As you need to activate the echo buff and also use a heavy attack

[edgy cobalt]

you got the calcs?

can only find sig comparison and noticed 30% between standard and sig when running lingering apparently

[marble charm]

Here's one in whivh the void set just takes advantagw of the phantom thundering bug

and here's the one just normally using tempest

[neat robin]

Thats not different enough to care about refarmibg an entirely new set

[marble charm]

its around a 6 - 10% difference

[clear stump]

I'm already cooked idk how some people have over 500 of these. Same goes with exp.

[dense elbow]

are ppl still not using flautist for calcs?

considering it can be swap cancelled immediately whilst getting all 10 hits

[queen hollow]

Lvl 65 pack

[neat robin]

Did they fix flautist?
It used to hit like. 3 times, maybe

[dense elbow]

They just changed how it works

If you only tap the button it does 3 hits

If you hold it it does more till you let go

But if you hold it whilst swap cancelling it does all 10 hits

[neat robin]

I see

[dense elbow]

Ill take better dmg than the 4 costs whilst being immediately swap cancellable on top of generating 10 concerto on a dps that does a lot of outro dmg

[edgy cobalt]

looks like we’re going lingering tunes instead of void

[lucid pebble]

I still have 1k+ of these.

Where are you finding echo xp to level enough echoes to spend them all?

[clear stump]

Finding? I'm out for both.

[burnt shoal]

https://youtu.be/jj9fLFkE03E calcharo is real

[dense elbow]

funny enuf mech on 2pc 2pc seems to be about equal to void without any rotation issues either so im on that cos its the 1st cdmg 4 cost i could get lol

[edgy cobalt]

I already have a build on void… could use flautist as my main instead of thundering mephis

[dense elbow]

i have a 5pc void too but my flautist is the only one without double crit 😔

plus wouldnt work for his sig coz CR 4 cost

[edgy cobalt]

mine isn’t double crit too but I’m honestly content with 50:210 w/out sig

just gonna be something like 75:226 when I actually finish building him

since I’ll probably pull sig

[neat robin]

My yinlin was 70/250 on void I think?

Yao sig is 36 cr like string?

[dense elbow]

24% i believe

[neat robin]

Hm

I really dont want to farm a tunes set

Any preference on atk mains instead of electro with sig?

Void set ^

[opaque flume]

I’m so fucking poor dawg

💀💀💀💀💀💀

I legit have 4 shell credits

[wheat moon]

Also poor

2344

😎

[neat robin]

So for yao
Void is total 40% electro after 4pc stacks
Tunes is 30% atk after stacks

Could you not go void with atk% and electro% 3costs and it basically the same thing overall?
Or is the mech just that good

[dense elbow]

also need to factor in mech abom gives 12% atk and has an instant cast echo skill, whilst being both good damage and outro dmg so it benefits from 5pc lingering

and lingering gives +60% outro dmg bonus

which is quite huge for xly

mech taking 0 extra field time to cast is what makes it quite huge

but 2pc 2pc is pretty equal afaik

and has no bs stacking

[neat robin]

Mech summons like jue?

[dense elbow]

yeah

[neat robin]

Idk why my brains been thinking mech acts like lampy

[dense elbow]

its instantly summons a piece of trash on top of each enemy in range

so if u clump enemies together it hits all enemies several tiems lmao

its a VERY good echo just limited to what usually isnt a preferred set

[neat robin]

Tunes for sure would be electro 3costs > cr + cdmg 44111
?

I want whatever is best but brain says my current void options are already good (cr & cdmg mephis) this is with plain 1* weapon & no crit talent nodes

[edgy cobalt]

I heard some people are poor for shell credits?

I'm fine with everything else I got my 800+ tuners back and I'm set for reso and weapon exp now
its always echo exp I keep running out because of my minmaxing shenanigans

and now that lingering tunes might be a viable option for xy I think I'm gonna start sticking with tacet fields rn instead of farming random mats for fun

• wanna farm more crit for jhsi cuz she keeps missing crits

[neat robin]

hsi + yao tacet farming at the same time

[edgy cobalt]

exactly since both sets are on the same field

[neat robin]

Ah. Yao sig is cdmg…
Anyone know if his talents is cr or cdmg?

[edgy cobalt]

its crit rate wdym

cd forte

[neat robin]

I swear I just saw a post of it with cdmg sub

[dense elbow]

24.3% CR

[neat robin]

Mm. 80/208 (+cdmg fortes)
I guess

Still unsure if I’ll pull it. Need to see how much I have closer to shorekeeper release

[edgy cobalt]

as a professional zheshit skipper I am set for gauntlets and skeeper

[neat robin]

I’m sitting at 30 pity on weapon banner and I think I’ve got about 100-110 pulls

The problem is

I havent won a 50/50 yet idc they’re basically all early

[clear stump]

I wouldn't risk it. Having a better verina with skeeper sounds comfy af. Definitely can't skip her at all cost.

[neat robin]

Yeah

Still 4 weeks left? I’m waiting to see next patch pull estimate

[opaque flume]

Does anyone use er or atk sets

[dense elbow]

Clouds yes almost every subdps in a team will to give more atk to your dps

I say almost coz in yinlin teams she actually like 5pc void but chars like zhezhi or sanhua like clouds

[opaque flume]

Oh ok

I’ve been putting the

[dense elbow]

Lingering the best example rn is xiangli yao

[opaque flume]

Other tuning

Also what should I put on the shield woman

[dense elbow]

Taoqi?

[opaque flume]

Nah the other one

Wind

[dense elbow]

Oh jianxin

[opaque flume]

Ya

[dense elbow]

The 3 star gauntlet that heals on NA + rejuv and turtle

[opaque flume]

3* gauntlet? Damn

[dense elbow]

It heals on NA

So she can swap in, n1, turtle, leave

Lmao

And the n1 healing procs rejuv

[opaque flume]

Turtle?

You mean use ca?

Well

Heavy attack

Same thing tho

[dense elbow]

Bellborne turtle weekly boss

[opaque flume]

Oh ok

[dense elbow]

Her hold basic takes so fkn long lmao

[opaque flume]

Wait she’s useless then

You can do that with anyone

[dense elbow]

Well done LMAO

[opaque flume]

https://tenor.com/view/pls-god-strike-this-individual-down-strike-down-god-kanye-kanye-cat-gif-9334290556842141514

[dense elbow]

I like her for her ult at the start of lower floors

Immediately group with jianxin then nuke with havoc mc

Her grouping is her value but takinf any extended field time with her is

You can build her dps but like

[opaque flume]

I mean she doesn’t do terrible damage

Idk

[dense elbow]

I wouldnt personally recommend it

[dense elbow]

Ehhhhhhh

Compared to a dedicated dps

[opaque flume]

I have her on atk gaulent with rejuv set

Like 4 3 3 1 1 normal

[dense elbow]

You arent proccing rejuv consistently then

Coz u need to heal for it

And her forte takes 10 years to fill up

😔

[opaque flume]

It’s not that bad

I feel like I can usually do it in like 3 hits

[dense elbow]

If i could then use that forte instantly sure

[opaque flume]

I mean she is pretty forte efficient I feel like idk

[dense elbow]

Nah time to sit there for longer than a jinhsi combo for basically nothing

😔

Idk ever since 1.0 we've been looking for a way to play her that doesnt use that fkn hold basic

[opaque flume]

Am I missing something

Oh ya I mean sitting there takes a while

But it does not terrible damage idk

Her last hit does like a giant aoe 15k

For me

[dense elbow]

15k is....

Pretty terrible damage....

😭

For that long of a charge

[opaque flume]

Ur doing damage

During it tho

[dense elbow]

Barely

I mean im not telling you to not use her but i dont see any merit in her offensively personally

Compared to a dedicated dps

Altho im also someone who doesnt need the defensive utility and just uses healing as a trigger for rejuv

So if my healer cant just build their concerto instantly and gtfo then deadge

[opaque flume]

Wait how tf are you getting enough concerto @dense elbow

[dense elbow]

On jianxin?

[opaque flume]

Ya

Or even havoc rover

[dense elbow]

I dont coz i run havoc mc + danjin + jianxin

And danjins concerto charges much quicker and is more beneficial

[opaque flume]

Missing out on ult deepen

fr

[dense elbow]

Danjin has full havoc deepen 😭

[opaque flume]

Also on changli is there a way to go straight from dodge to true sight conquest

[hollow gorge]

JX charges concerto rather quickly with her heavy attack, especially if you are hitting multiple enemies

Ok, NVM, I backread the chat

[dense elbow]

The issue is her heavy attack

[midnight bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/emolty-wuthering-waves-shorekeeper-black-shores-gif-1561967757802234911

[edgy cobalt]

ok guys fun question cuz why not
I have one more selector
missing jianxin and lingyang and I have my goatrina at s2

shall I keep saving it till may 2025

[lyric fjord]

There is 0 reason to get lingyang

[ashen geyser]

S3 verina

[queen hollow]

Jianxin my beloved

[neat robin]

Hmm. With sig or bp the two sets are basically same dps? 🤔

Still waiting … has anyone checked ele+atk 3cost on void vs ele+ele?

[marble charm]

already calc'ed that a while ago

[neat robin]

Ooh ok. I havent seen that. Ty

gonna roll either I find and take whatever gets double crit & atk/er first ig

[neat robin]

Hmm. Got a double crit glacio for zz
But idk if dropping to 120 er is enough

[rotund drum]

She builds meter pretty fast so it's usually fine

They may nerf it though

Like they nerfed xiangli yao

[neat robin]

They arent gonna nerf zz when shes already released lol

[edgy cobalt]

no one will understand the doompost grind

inb4 lingering tunes is a scam but whatever

imagine new one tap boss that boosts lib (bye bye mr 5 seconds thundering midphis) and LT will remain fradulent on anyone but lingyang

[rotund drum]

its funny that the simps will write long essays about how calcharo could be good if he just had this one thing etc but in the meantime no one cares about the lion fuckboy

[lucid pebble]

I hate that guy.

Ruined all my early pities.

[edgy cobalt]

at least he’s moral support (you’re guaranteed spotlight unit next)

[opaque flume]

is there a stat that increases how fast you build concerto energy

btw

[timid sierra]

dan jin in illusive realm fun

go shing shing chaoscleave all the time

[edgy cobalt]

nah only some weapons do that

and jhsi auto maxing her concerto

[dire river]

Was there ever a conclusion if jinhsi wants to go 44111 or 43311?

[rotund drum]

its still 43311 unless e1s1 iirc

[dire river]

I have s1 but no dupes

How big is the difference?

[rotund drum]

Very

E1 is 80% more damage

It's what lets you drop the dmg mainstats

[dire river]

Well then

I have work to do

Just to double check. She wants both ele% on the 3? Or mix ele % and atk%?

[clear stump]

Ele/ele if sigless. Ele/att with sig.

[rocky oak]

he ruined my 1 pity and it already felt bad... but THREE times, that's just outright cruel

[hollow gorge]

Both ele, if just Jihnsi, Ele Atk if you have a sig or her sequence. And 44111 in superinvested cases

[dire river]

so 44111 is fine even without sequence?

i'm confused

[dense elbow]

its fine

its not the best option

but if ur clearing its fine

[dire river]

I'm short 10 seconds

for side tower

middle one I'm off by entire minute

[rotund drum]

iirc if e0s1 your dmg% is too low

if e1s0 your crit and base atk are too low to justify taking crit or atk% mainstats

so it has to be both

its pretty close at that point though if you have good atk/crit pieces that you can sub in then the one with the better subs will likely win

[dire river]

i do have some 3* lying around

just need to farm exp and tacets again

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/jinshi-jinxi-wuwa-wuwa-jinxi-jinxi-wuwa-gif-6888474920101217135

[edgy cobalt]

currently on VT/LT hybrid for this xly build without sig & 16% cd

[neat robin]

… can I have a cdmg heron please

[rigid coral]

We should be getting shorekeeper gameplay leaks today hopefully

[neat robin]

Cdmg main, rolled min cr
Leaving it at +20 til I find a new one

[neat robin]

So pretty

[midnight bloom]

jiyan rerun

1.2 Char Element

Source: Wuthering Wives
Youhu: Glacio
Shorekeeper: Spectro

Both are Healer

Black Shore

[edgy cobalt]

[neat robin]

Wonder what they’ll do for her sig

Since the 4* is er and concerto
What else do you want

[edgy cobalt]

I'll make her dps and run stringmaster

[dusty crown]

favge moment

(well the equivalent of sort of i guess, not exactly)

[neat robin]

Til its a sig that gives full team ult energy

[dusty crown]

or green donut moment

[edgy cobalt]

guys

10% crit rate

are we saved

[dusty crown]

it dropped ?

just following on wwleaks on reddit

[edgy cobalt]

I lied 20%

I'll definitely take it

[neat robin]

All I’m hearing is yao wont get his sig

[edgy cobalt]

no clue what her sig does

I just saw 77% ER 💀

[dusty crown]

are you looking on telegram

i was ready for bed but saw the leaks starting to pour 😦

[edgy cobalt]

hakush but I can check telegram

[dusty crown]

oh everything is already up there

[neat robin]

77??

[edgy cobalt]

@neat robin Outro Skill
Binary Butterfly

The Shorekeeper summons one Flare Star Butterfly and one Dim Star Butterfly. The butterflies circle all nearby team members, which present for 30s.
When the Flare Star Butterfly is present, tapping on the Dodge Button when a nearby team member is being hit or juggled will allow them to successfully dodge and safely land on the ground. This effect can be triggered up to 5 time(s).
When the Dim Star Butterfly is present, all nearby team members' DMG is amplified by 15%.

you're gonna want this

[neat robin]

Wtf

I’m at 110 pulls and on 50/50 rn

[edgy cobalt]

zhezhi skipping successful, return to skeeper

zheshit

[neat robin]

30 pity on weapon banner if I win shorekeeper/get her early

[dusty crown]

guaranteed perfect dodge is pog

for bad players like me

[neat robin]

Mobile lifesaver

[edgy cobalt]

so if I get hit and press dodge
I assume I get my hp back

high ping players are gonna want to pull her lmfao

[neat robin]

I play on 30ms and half the time my dodge button doesnt even work

But that might be a hud thing
Cuz it always warns me I have overlap

Idk it doesnt tell me which buttons are overlapping

[dusty crown]

When nearby team members use Intro Skill within Elementary Stellarealm, it evolves into Sophisticated Stellarealm. In Sophisticated Stellarealm, for every 20% increase in the Shorekeeper's Energy Regen, all nearby team members in the domain gain a 1% increase in Crit. Rate, up to a maximum of 10%.
Sophisticated Stellarealm involves all the effects of Elementary Stellarealm.

does that mean she wants 200% ER to max out

or 300%

[neat robin]

20% increase would be 1% cr per +20 er

[edgy cobalt]

100% is your base line
you want 200% more ER

[dusty crown]

ok so 300% total

meep moment

[edgy cobalt]

so on your screen you must see 300% yes

[neat robin]

Sig plus 2 er mains is like. +150?
I genuinely havent maxed a er echo at all yet

[edgy cobalt]

I think its time I finally max out my r5 variation 💀

[dusty crown]

so she provides 30% crit rate basically if i read everything correctly

[rotund drum]

borekeeper

hopefully youhu saves it

[neat robin]

Alri doomposter

[edgy cobalt]

Released Stellarealm involves all the effects of Sophisticated Stellarealm.

you're right so 30% max crit potential

[neat robin]

Me with 86 cr jinhsi

[dusty crown]

verina can stop working overtime

[neat robin]

Thankfully not 98 cr zz now

[edgy cobalt]

you have the right to call her shit

[neat robin]

Wdym

She still gets 250k nukes

[edgy cobalt]

what do you need 30% crit rate for duh

should've prayed she buffs crit dmg instead

[neat robin]

I hate farming jue

[dusty crown]

non crit weapon moment

[edgy cobalt]

I'm a professional 60:190 jhsi/jiyan main

no one can hold a candle to me except this one account who cleared with lvl1 weapons

[neat robin]

I should
probably level jinhsis skills more

I think I left her at lv6-7

[edgy cobalt]

idk about skill but circuit and lib is a must

[dusty crown]

there are too many butterflies in this kit

[edgy cobalt]

When the Shorekeeper is in the team or when Stellarealm is active, or if the team is within the Black Shores area, the Shorekeeper's Energy Regen increases by 10%. If Rover is in the same team, their Energy Regen also increases by 10%.

weirdchamp passive

[dusty crown]

underwhat situation can stellarealm be active when shorekeeper isn't in the team

i feel it should be a "and when Stellarealm is active, or if the team [...]"

[neat robin]

Fortes. Wahtevr they’re called
Her everything is at 6-7

[edgy cobalt]

push forte to lvl10

I run no sig so at lvl10 I still nuke close to 200k

you can easily hit 300k

[uneven flame]

It's just bad EN translation CN is more clear even with google translate.

If the Shore Keeper is in the current formation, the Shore Keeper's resonance efficiency will increase by 10% during the Star Region or when the current formation is in the Dark Coast environment. If the Drifter is in the same formation, the Drifter's resonance efficiency will increase by 10%.

[dusty crown]

the first part is just so useless though

why does it need to say when shorekeeper is in the party 😭

[neat robin]

Cuz people are dumb and think it’ll work forver

[dusty crown]

i was going to say maybe that's way

[neat robin]

Dont underestimate stupid

[dusty crown]

"i pulled for her thinking it would work just for having her on my account, i demand a refund!"

[neat robin]

After the translation mess on jiyan sig they making real sure to specify things

[frosty escarp]

Wuwa leaks are fucking insane

[dusty crown]

The incoming Resonator has their Coordinated Attack DMG Amplified by 100% for 28s.

for youhu

do buffs like these stay when you switch out ?

[neat robin]

Usually no

I think theyve been good about specifying if its cancelled when they swap though

[dusty crown]

that's very not pog if it goes out if switching out... for a character that uses coordinated attacks 😐

i guess you can onfield them too

[uneven flame]

In CN it lacks the "If you switch to another character, the effect will end early." but they might of just forgot it we shall see.

[neat robin]

I think they’ll say it if its cancelled. Snagged morts outro

[dusty crown]

good to know

[neat robin]

Idk if theres any currently that dont get cancelled

[edgy cobalt]

these sequences are actually decent too

even at s0 I am somewhat convinced my s2 goatrina will have competition

[uneven flame]

Her Forte seems to have a pull effect I wonder how strong it is.

[midnight bloom]

1.3 Banners

Hakushin

Shorekeeper
Youhu, Yangyang, Chixia

Jiyan
Mortefi, Taogi, Sanhua

overworld mechanics

[neat robin]

Time to get shorekeeper and 0 youhus with 10 chixia

[midnight bloom]

Illusive Realm

[rotund drum]

jiyan rerun already lmao

guess they cant keep up with the content

[neat robin]

Or they arent rushing out new chars

Which is good

[uneven flame]

Wait Youhu is on Shorekeeper and not on Jiyan to bait people? Been playing genshin for so long that it is hard to believe.

[neat robin]

These devs like people

[dusty crown]

i mean there's been a few 4-stars that debuted alongside a new 5-stars !

[uneven flame]

In CN Shorekeeper's Liberation provides 20% ATK on the last stage instead of 20% Crit.

[neat robin]

I guess I’m skipping yao sig. will give him bp guantlets so I can get shorekeeper + sig instead

[dusty crown]

makes more sense

do we even know what the shore sig does

i'm waiting for that

we just know insane ER

[uneven flame]

HP increases by 12%. When the Variation skill causes healing, it restores 8 points of Concert Energy to itself and increases the attack of nearby team characters by 10% for 30 seconds.

[edgy cobalt]

oh my god what

[dusty crown]

not even hiding it just being variation on crack

[dusty crown]

girl isn't beating the bennett allegations

[midnight bloom]

She's not caesar

[uneven flame]

I thought I was in ZZZ lounge when I read that

[midnight bloom]

She's basically verina v2

[uneven flame]

[midnight bloom]

Lol

[rigid coral]

Omg it's happening

Black shores is coming?

[midnight bloom]

1.3 Banner

[neat robin]

Ok

I just need to win my first 50/50 on shorekeeper

Surely will
1/4 wins right

Very 50/50

[rigid coral]

Omg

[frosty escarp]

Difference between genshit impact and a wuwa

Holy shit

[midnight bloom]

shorekeeper animations

[clear stump]

Omfg she's broken af

Wow

[midnight bloom]

[QOL] FPS Auto Adjustment

Enable Auto Adjustment

When turned on, the maximum frame rate will be automatically adjusted to control the temperature when the device is overheated

[frosty escarp]

Insane

[marble charm]

so, what is the current consensus here on shorekeeper

[uneven flame]

She doesn't give 30% crit that was an EN mistranslation. CN text says 10% crit and 20% ATK

[clear stump]

Motherf...

Oh well 10% crit is 10% crit

[lyric fjord]

Isnt it up to 20% crit rate if she has 300 ER?

[marble charm]

No, thats not even close to how it works

[lucid pebble]

20% CR after two intro skills during her ult.

And also needing 300 ER.

When her kit gives none.

[dense elbow]

right this char is insane for one reason and one reason only

[dense elbow]

also no shorekeeper gives 10% CR and then up to 20% ATK

[dense elbow]

people dont read the CN 😭

its better than verina as they both have the 15% amplify

[lucid pebble]

You right.

I can’t read CN.

[dense elbow]

GTL

😔

GTL CN is better than any EN text

😭

[lucid pebble]

Verina is much easier to use.

[lucid pebble]

Who does coordinated attacks?

ZZ and electro mommy?

[dense elbow]

zhezhi, yinlin, yuanwu, mortefi, verina, baizhi (and technically jiyan and calcharo iirc)

[lucid pebble]

Got it.

ZZ and electromommy.

[queen hollow]

So jinhsi zhezhi and shorekeeper

Pretty women team

[dense elbow]

not liking that too much rn based on the concerto discussions im having with ppl atm

😭

shorekeeper wants her intro and her concerto generation looks like ass

whilst not having coord attacks like verina

[rotund drum]

boresleeper

[dense elbow]

concerto looks fine after 1st rot coz of her intro

but

to start off shes missing a lot which r5 variation helps with

otherwise youre stuck on her for quite a bit before you can get going

[neat robin]

Hmm. So hsi zz verina
Yao yinlin shore / jiyan mort shore

[dense elbow]

kinda interested by jiyan mort youho too but

we'll see

[lucid pebble]

Shorekeeper seems mid.

Verina downgrade fr fr.

[lament shuttle]

Maybe they buff her concerto Gen

The rest of the kit looks good

[dense elbow]

dont think they will when her sig has concerto on it lmao

[lament shuttle]

isn’t it only 8

[dense elbow]

except its not enough to start her combo without r5 lmao

yeah same values as variation

[lament shuttle]

Yeah so fuck that

[dense elbow]

which is why r5 variation

[lament shuttle]

I only have r2

🫠

[dense elbow]

r0

😭

[lament shuttle]

Yeah so they’ll buff if surely

[dense elbow]

dont expect it

coz shes fine for all rots except first

[lament shuttle]

Doesn’t that just mean you don’t play her with jinhsi

[dense elbow]

idt u play her with jinhsi period

😭

but no in all teams the 1st rotation is gonna be ugly as you need to make up 16 concerto out of nowhere

and if u dont have r5 variation good luck

2nd rot onwards she has her intro skill which gives 20 and fills that

[neat robin]

I mean isnt that relatively the same for any support?
They all rely on variation for 1st rot

[lament shuttle]

Verina doesn’t seem to need it

As badly as?

[neat robin]

And a lot of people only have r1-2 variation to start with

Idk

I’m still pulling

Unless they do some crazy nerfs in test

[dense elbow]

she doesnt no

it makes her setup a tiny bit quicker but

she doesnt require it

taoqi requires R5 of her concerto weapon to even function rly lmao

imo they just didnt wanna have a verina moment coz its actively detrimental to use verinas intro rly whereas shorekeeper actively wants to intro

shes definitely good dont get me wrong

just she doesnt completely wipe the floor with verina funny enough

a bit more buffing but not straight up universal in all teams

[lament shuttle]

If a sub dps can proc her intro fast it would be good then

Just you scuff the sub dps dmg early

[neat robin]

I’m sorta okay with that
They also picked the same element as verina so its good she does diffeeent things

[dense elbow]

ik ppl that play changli and rly rely on double intro to her which wont rly be possible without wasting a lot of time if ur introing into shorekeeper already

[lament shuttle]

Don’t we only have glacio and spectro healers

[dense elbow]

yeah lmfao

even youho is glacio still lol

[lament shuttle]

Anyway she sounds like a good pull

[dense elbow]

shes good im just not sure if imma go for her

[lament shuttle]

Then I can leave verina with jinhsi

[dense elbow]

a lot of her value at least to me is because we have such a lack of supports rn

[lament shuttle]

And not have to field what’s her face

[dense elbow]

but big time wasting at the start of tower rn

cri

[lament shuttle]

Well tower meta now is 2 teamsright

[dense elbow]

sig isnt as crazy as i thought either

[lament shuttle]

1-4+2-1 and 2-2+3-4 combination

[dense elbow]

i mean u need effectively 3 if ur doing middle tower too

[lament shuttle]

Well you need two and the other floors can be handled by less invested teams

Like one team for last floor of tower 1 and one of the middle ones, 2nd team for other middle floor and last floor on the right

[lament shuttle]

I saw tentens vid on xiangli Yao he said with yinlin cn calcs say dps similar to jiyan teams

[dense elbow]

i mean thats still more than 2 teams

[lucid pebble]

Ideally, I’d need 3 main DPS’s.

[dense elbow]

no clue what tentens been saying no one ik interacts with him

😭

[lucid pebble]

Best one for middle tower.

[dense elbow]

coz 4+2/3 means you cant use that team in middle tower either

[lucid pebble]

And then one for 1 and 4 on both sides, the third worst dps does both 2s and 3s.

[lament shuttle]

Well if my shitty calcharo can clear the others I still won’t count it as a fully invested team

[dense elbow]

yeah

[lucid pebble]

With the best supports.

[dense elbow]

well yeah you dont need a max investment team for the middle floors but you certainly cant get by with just 6 chars

[lucid pebble]

I like solo Changli on floor 1’s because I can just ult into forte and it’s joever.

[dense elbow]

unless youre taking less than 3 chars into floor 4

[neat robin]

I want yao sig but idk if his dps is worth it
Or I’ll be stuck waiting for another gauntlet 5* who knows how long away

[lament shuttle]

I’ll get his sig and just keep shorekeeper on variation

[lucid pebble]

keeper needs buffs.

[dense elbow]

id like his sig as its a big increase but my chances of shorekeeper are kinda doomge lmao

[neat robin]

Still waiting on 5* pistol dps
Aalto is fun but I need more dmg

[dense elbow]

shes good but her combos make no sense to me lmao

[lucid pebble]

How likely is shorekeeper kit being changed at this point?

[dense elbow]

a friend was doing calcs on aalto the other day

and good god

😭

[neat robin]

Hes got one of the most fun kits but hes really not designed as a dps

[dense elbow]

wym "changed"?
because the extreme changes id like to see is her forte meter and eggs being lowered to 4 max rather than 5 and her egg butterfly concerto upped to 1.25 from 1 to make up for it lol

since that fits her B4 string better

rather than needing 5 BAs

[dense elbow]

yeah 😔

[lucid pebble]

As in do different things.

[neat robin]

I’m gonna waffle about yao sig vs shore sig until I get my yao and immediately break and pull I already know it

[lucid pebble]

Or even numbers buff.

[dense elbow]

i mean im not expecting them to swap out the buffs entirely

[neat robin]

No whaleee

[dense elbow]

but she buffs 10% CR 20% ATK and 15% all type team amp

the CR is new already vs verina and more ATK so

[lament shuttle]

I’ve never lost a 50/50 yet so maybe this will be the one that costs money 😐

[dense elbow]

they cant rly change the all type team amp as thats the main value here lol

unless they made it 20% lol

[neat robin]

I’ll have enough for shore and one sig by the time she runs

I’ve just been farming the fusion/electro field trying to fix encore and collect better void stuff

[dense elbow]

same ive not gotten anything rollable in days

not even getting electro flautists to roll

😭

had like 2 and neither got double crit

thanking the lords 2pc 2pc is viable on XLY lol

[neat robin]

I might end up with 4 void and atk+ele

Depending on what I find first

I havent really levelled much. Was being hella picky about what I kept after +10

My void flautist sucks

[lucid pebble]

What’s so good about Flautist?

[dense elbow]

Instantly swap cancellable, high damage, autolocks onto enemies with long range, and generates 10 concerto

[lucid pebble]

A summon that isn’t DPS loss?

[dense elbow]

Its a transformation not a summon

But yeah

Summons are always good generally0

[lucid pebble]

The only Q that I like pressing is Jue.

0 animation commitment.

Man can do 0 damage and I’ll still smash that button.

[dense elbow]

Mech abom moment yet its also high damage lol

[lucid pebble]

But mech abom is locked to shit set.

[dense elbow]

Not for XLY

[lucid pebble]

Who is XLY?

[dense elbow]

Xiangli yao

[lucid pebble]

Male.

Skip.

[dense elbow]

Free

Cant skip

[dense elbow]

But yeah 2pc2pc with mech is about equal to 5 void iirc

[lucid pebble]

Why not 5 ATK?

[dense elbow]

And 5 lingering is slightly better

Altho i like 2pc2pc as it means no fieldtime commitments for lingering and no conditionals for void

So i can free swap with yinlin

God net in here is bad sorry

[lucid pebble]

Bri’ish net.

Brexit issue.

[dense elbow]

Blame aldi

[lucid pebble]

Blame all deez

If I can clear next towers without XLY, I’m probably not going to build him.

Wait for Shorekeeper.

And hopium she gets buffs.

Healer is only required for middle tower anyways.

[dense elbow]

Ill take a 3rd dps since swapping weapons on encore is annoying whilst my fusion pieces still low rolled af

[dense elbow]

Healer required for rejuv buffs unless ur using healing weapon

[lucid pebble]

Rejuv buffs.

Isn’t that only middle tower?

[neat robin]

The gamble payed off

I’m too broke to+25

[dense elbow]

Rejuv gives extra atk% to all teammates and turtle which is more dmg bonus, IR and dmg reduction

So its a nice increase

[lucid pebble]

I have Verina for middle tower.

And ZZ can run turtle if I absolutely have to have turtle on another team.

[dense elbow]

I mean theres more than just verina

Since we still using baizhi atm

And shorekeepers gonna run rejuv as well

[dense elbow]

Nah better to use heron on her

Youho showing me my 5 glacio zhezhi wasnt such a bad investment lmao

[lucid pebble]

I kinda want to switch to glacio with ZZ.

Lampy actually smashes.

[neat robin]

I want a glacio onfield that can properly use the parry sword

That echo is fun

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-wuthering-waves-kuro-kuro-games-gacha-gif-6933653638663701354

[neat robin]

I cant use her hold properly

[lucid pebble]

Actual skill issue.

[neat robin]

I always get interupted