・wuwa-lounge

[torn tapir]

Context for what now?

Next main quest?

[blissful tulip]

No, for his story, depends on how much you care about Yao as a character

[torn tapir]

I didn't even know bro existed 😭

I'll get to it after the Changli story quest ig

[edgy cobalt]

the backstory stuff for him was cool ig

but I skipped everything that isn’t related to yinlin

[blissful tulip]

I didn't skip anything, until the ending Yao portion it felt like Genshin's Lantern rite/HSR's museum

With better writing

And nicer animations

[rocky oak]

[lament shuttle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1247232201511407636/1273745154825650278/a07ecc11a7810b1b8637ae3cbeb3e6a1.png?ex=66bfbb1d&is=66be699d&hm=d9dba16880ace718db1f393d3e83b21e2158cdbc6a4e4c62edb28a1cfdcb42c1&

Ayy

Didn’t build zhezhi yet but will do so since I can pair yinlin with xiangli next rotation and I’m hoping it’ll be better (?)

One things for sure I’m not pulling zhezhis weap since string master is only 5-10% worse

[blissful tulip]

Not sure whether to go for her weapon at all considering variance as her support option

But I love her playstyle enough to make her a damage dealer

Hopefully I get standard rectifier soon

[lament shuttle]

It’s always a safe bet to have a crit mainstat for each weapon type

[ashen geyser]

Tell me you don't have Hsi without telling me you don't have Hsi

[blissful tulip]

There's always the battle pass, but from what I've heard it's barely better than Keeper even with the crit stat

And idt I have the funds at the moment regardless for ZZ's weapon specifically

[ashen geyser]

Is ripples fine for zhezhi

[blissful tulip]

According to a few calcs it's around 14-20% worse than her signature

[ashen geyser]

Oh shit

[blissful tulip]

It's a good general option if you have nothing else

[ashen geyser]

All good then

Now time to save for boobkeeper

[blissful tulip]

Although funnily enough I'm not sure whether to go for rectifier or fists

[ashen geyser]

Oh shit

Isn't her sig like

The best encore rectifier now

[blissful tulip]

I'd say yes, but I do not own Encore

[lament shuttle]

Encore gonna be the new Keqing

Every new rectifier will be her best

[ashen geyser]

I might get her sig for encore

And just give zz ripples

[blissful tulip]

Do we have calcs for Yao's fists? I understand that his signature is heavily above everything else, but just in case standard isn't too far behind

[ashen geyser]

Wait nvm

Encore can only skill like 2x per ult

Or smth idk I haven't played her in a while

[karmic fox]

Still no mobile controller support?

[valid marten]

Wu when wa walks in

[edgy cobalt]

correct

stringmaster that is

if you meant zhezhi sig then incorrect

[lilac hare]

My exploration progress in the snowy area is still 13% because of this

I will properly play the game when it supports controllers

Until then it’s just dailies and spending resin

[ashen geyser]

Damn

Stringmaster op fr

[burnt shoal]

is stringmaster good for zhezhi

[blissful tulip]

36% crit rate is good on any catalyst

[edgy cobalt]

yeah lol

[lilac hare]

How good is zhezhi

I’ll probably skip her even if I have jinhsi

I want that blue healer/fuxuan-like character

[edgy cobalt]

similar niche as yinlin

[rotund drum]

she feels more comfy than midlin at least

only downside is her CA is on ult

it lasts a while and doesnt require you to attack constantly at least

[edgy cobalt]

I'm pretty sure yinlin and zhezhi gives similar clear times when pairing with jhsi lowkey

kinda why I'm thinking about skipping her and use lvl1 copewu instead

unless skeeper is glacio and would want zhezhi which is a kick in the arse for the skippers

[blissful tulip]

Zhezhi is significantly more comfortable to play in comparison to Yinlin if that helps

And freeing Yinlin for Yao will benefit long-term

[edgy cobalt]

that's what I thought at first, but with shorekeeper being around the corner and the game slowly giving less pulls

I think
the best course of action is to gamble on that unit being broken and skip zhezhi

[blissful tulip]

Considering how universally incredible Verina is, I'd say that's the right decision

They'll make shorekeeper fantastic in one way or another

[edgy cobalt]

although one thing I will always mention in my wuwa convos regarding her

can she compete with my s2 verina

[blissful tulip]

Even if she can, I'd say any team will benefit from her

[edgy cobalt]

[rotund drum]

shorekeeper might be midkeeper unfortunately

i wouldnt put your eggs into that basket

[edgy cobalt]

on another topic, I recently went s2 -> s5 sanhua and I almost got under a minute

I could play the long game and just save multiple patches if skeeper is midkeeper

[rotund drum]

xiangli yao simps were coping pretty hard too but he turned out to be just a rebranded 4*

[edgy cobalt]

he plays ok in trial

whoever says he's 5% better than midcharo are probably right

[blissful tulip]

I don't like the way he feels in combat, he's oddly stiff

[rotund drum]

does he have a trial already

i havent paid attention

[edgy cobalt]

in story yeah

[blissful tulip]

You play him during the event

[rotund drum]

oh gross

at least you can skip the dialogue

still a lot of clicking though

[edgy cobalt]

they even gave him "ok" stats

lvl80 or 90 I forgot
lvl7 fortes
lvl80 sig
80:160 crit ratio on menu screen

really gave him no cdmg and all in on cr

midyao without his sig I think

[ashen geyser]

Still better than cal fr

[rotund drum]

might as well run mdps zhezhi lol

[lament shuttle]

If he’s truly mid I’ll just use bp weapons on him ig

Free is free

[edgy cobalt]

free is free

[lament shuttle]

Calcharo is horrible so anything is prob better

[edgy cobalt]

I will build him
pulling his sig is a maybe because I have absolutely zero gauntlets for him

[ashen geyser]

Is the standard banner gauntlet fine

Or is the bp gauntlet better

[lament shuttle]

5* prob better no matter what

[edgy cobalt]

bp better

[ashen geyser]

Any calcs?

[edgy cobalt]

most of his kit wants liberation dmg and abyss surge is super cope

if I knew the calcs I would sauce them right away but I got nothing unfortunately

[ashen geyser]

Aw

[leaden moat]

Is storekeeper start of 1.3? Any idea how many pulls we can accumulate by then ?

[blissful tulip]

As of right now, around 65+ pulls as f2p

We do not know if a "devs listened" reward of 10 pulls will arrive in 1.3, so the 65+ is pending

[lucid pebble]

[blissful tulip]

You should be able to get around 90 or so by the time her banner ends

[lucid pebble]

Game knows I am stupid.

[blissful tulip]

Zhezhi's quest was great, I'm glad that Kuro's writing has significantly improved over the past two patches

[lucid pebble]

I like that the game has different skills but everything in a character's kit just does X damage.

And by like, I mean fuck that.

Alzo, Zhezhi does real goog onfield damage.

[rotund drum]

kinda hard to beat the raw base atk on 5*s in this game since its so inflated

relative to 4*s

[clear stump]

Stonard r1 looks fine tbh. Need to save pulls for shopkeeper.

[neat robin]

I might just use bp too yeah

[lament shuttle]

20-30% diff on a 5* is big

[clear stump]

Stonard having crit rate is good enough. Ease of building when compared to standard 5*.

[lament shuttle]

Definitely

[burnt shoal]

what website u guys use to save pull history for wuwa

[marble charm]

Yeah we already gotten leaks for both shorekeeper and youhu

[sweet coral]

Verina found jobless

[marble charm]

Resonance skill: summons several yellow butterflies which automatically lock onto enemies and deal damage. Damage dealt by the, will heal allies.
共鸣技能：召唤若干黄色蝴蝶，自动锁定敌人，造成伤害，伤害能为友方提供治疗(可脱手)
Forte: Every time a normal attack hits an enemy, it will spawn a bug nearby. After some time it will metamorphosise into a blue butterfly which will automatically deal damage, after dealing damage, atk% is increased. This effect can stack, and each stack lasts a few seconds. When forte energy is at max, normal attacks will spawn even more bugs, and the maximum number of bugs that can be on-field is increased. Whenever a normal attack generates forte, ...., when energy is not at max, holding normal attack will allow shorekeeper to transform into a butterfly and move around, in which in this time she can still regenerate energy, press the attack button once again to dash towards the enemy in normal form to deal damage, or hold the attack button to deal an instance of damage and immediately metamorphosise all bugs on-field.
共鸣回路：每次普攻会在敌人附近生成一个茧，若干秒后孵化成蓝色蝴蝶，自动索敌造成伤害，造成伤害后提升百分比攻击力，有层数上限，持续若干秒。当特殊能量达到上限，普攻生成更多茧，同时在场的茧有数量上限。每次普攻获得特殊能量点数，参考白芷念意，能量点未满时长按普攻化身蝴蝶移动，期间持续回复能量，能量点数达上限时，松开攻击键，冲向敌人造成伤害幻化为人形。能量点数达上限时，长按攻击键对敌人造成一次伤害，并立刻孵化周身所有的茧
Resonance Liberation: Opens a field for a fixed amount of seconds. and this field has 3 stages. Each stage requires a character to trigger an intro to proceed to the next stage. The first stage restores an amount of hp. The second stage increases crit, and the 3rd stage increases damage. (Not sure if each stage adds onto the previous stage or replaces it)
共鸣解放：展开领域，持续若干秒。领域涵盖3个阶段，每个阶段需要通过触发角色变奏入场，实现进阶，一阶回复生命值，二阶提升暴击，三阶伤害增幅(领域是叠加还是切换后前一个效果消失不确定)

Intro: Normal intro is equal to casting the resonance skill. If the intro triggers when the field is in its 3rd stage, an enhanced intro will be triggered, dealing a large burst of damage.
变奏：普通变奏相当于释放一次共鸣技能，此时领域为三阶段触发特殊变奏，造成一次爆炸伤害
Outro: Provides a dmg buff for a few seconds, and creates 2 butterfly clones. When the on-field character is staggered or knocked back, a dodge can be used, transferring the damage to shorekeeper and counts the dodge as a perfect dodge. And the next attack will become a dodge counter.
延奏：提供伤害增益若干秒，同时幻化成两只蝴蝶环绕角色周身，在登场角色受到击飞、击退时，使用闪避消耗守岸人生命值，视为完美闪避，当前登场角色下次攻击变成逆势回击

Youhu 釉瑚
Resonance Skill: Jumps back after dealing an instance of damage, and draws a slate (tldr its a lottery)
共鸣技能：造成一次伤害向后跳跃，随机幻化道具(简称抽奖)
Forte: After obtaining certain slates, which could be selected from a vase, scepter ( not really sure what this was ), tripod, chime or mask. After obtaining a slate, performing a basic will trigger a special attack. This attack is different depending on the slate, with some being able to be triggered remotely (the vase doesn't have a special effect and so might be removed). After drawing a slate it lasts for a fixed time. If not used, it will be replaced b a new tile. If two tiles are of the same type, , after using this enhanced attack, holding the normal attack button will trigger a weird beatdown type of attack? which also have special effects corresponding with the slate. Using intro, skill, forte normal attack or liberation, a tile will be drawn.
共鸣回路：在某些状态抽奖后，会从花瓶、如意、鼎、编钟、面具随机选择一个，获得道具进行普攻，将会获得特殊攻击，部分道具远程攻击，并根据道具获得特殊效果(花瓶无特殊效果，可能会删除)，抽到的道具会持续一段时间，如果不使用，会被新抽到的覆盖；如果两次抽到的相同，这一次强化攻击后，长按普攻会进行额外一次稀奇古怪的乱打？并获得额外对应的特殊效果，变奏入场、共鸣技能、特殊能量满后普攻、共鸣解放均可进行抽奖
Liberation: After creating an area of ice damage, she will enter a selector to select a slate. While selecting, time will stop (meaning the timer like the one in toa will stop)
共鸣解放：对前方造成范围伤害冰进行四个道具自选，期间时停
Intro: Deals damage and draws a slate
变奏：造成伤害并进行一次抽奖
Outro: The incoming resonator will receive coordinated attack deepen, lasting for a fixed amount of seconds (could also be a full team buff)
延奏：下一个角色协同伤害加深，持续若干秒(也有可能是全队增幅)

Lol

[ashen geyser]

It's a support for supports

[sweet coral]

Spectro or Glacio?

Oh nvm

Glacio

[marble charm]

Apparently shorekeeper is spectro and youhu is glacio

No full info on shorekeeper yet but we know for sure youhu is glacio

[sweet coral]

Coordinated attack buffer is weird

[ashen geyser]

What's the priority upgrades for zz

[small bronze]

no chests on interactive map from new update yet?

or its so little they didnt bother

[clear stump]

Can I get a link to this

[marble charm]

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9133131593

[clear stump]

Thx

[neat robin]

Nice

I think after all of 1.2 astrites o should be guaranteed shorekeeper

Anything about sig?
Will be the first support char sig, might be interesting

[clear stump]

Variation will probably still be really good

If not I'll just slap yinlin sig

[neat robin]

Everything is yinlin sig

Can we get a 5* gun please

[lament shuttle]

She fits with

Jinhsi

Thankfully she’s not glacio

[neat robin]

Yeah. Grabbing her regardless

[clear stump]

Now just need an actual coordinate support for jinhsi

[blissful tulip]

Hopefully her buffs are worthwhile enough to be worth pulling for

[clear stump]

Idk why but I have the feeling it'll be jue(human form). Come back to this comment next year.

[neat robin]

Yeah incominng triple spectro hsi team

[clear stump]

Now her outro make sense

[neat robin]

Lol

[clear stump]

Also her s2

Literally nuke first turn>outro>build up forte

[lucid pebble]

Jinhsi wants other elements, though.

[lament shuttle]

Yep

[lucid pebble]

Is shorekeeper hybrid?

[lament shuttle]

No

But it’s fine

[cobalt cobalt]

GUYS

[clear stump]

No

[cobalt cobalt]

THEY FINALLY FUCKING FIXED IT

Oh

No they didn’t

[blissful tulip]

They did, it works occasionally rather than never

[small bronze]

i want all the wuthercakes

also if anyone didnt know you can buy those here for some reason idk if the game told you but i just randomly clicked on it

[weary acorn]

[small bronze]

i dont know how to explain this but this click event is fun

its like genshin expeditions but made actually fun

[lilac hare]

How is Xiangli Yao looking?

I don’t have yinlin for him

[small bronze]

also like so many character are in the main quest and in the current events but like how come we didnt see calcharo or yuanwu ONCE

or am i trippin

[lilac hare]

We saw yuanwu for a moment in the main quest

[small bronze]

really

i dont even remember

and i didnt skip main quest

but when i look at characters yuanwu calcharo and idk verina feels neglected

[blissful tulip]

Yuanwu appeared very briefly in act 6

[small bronze]

or maybe its my alzheimer

[blissful tulip]

And you can find Calcharo and Yuanwu in the overworld during the event

Take selfies with them

[small bronze]

and i guess also aalto but he was there with encore for a second i think

in the mainstory

[blissful tulip]

Him and Encore were the main participants of act 5

[small bronze]

i guess it was longer than i remember

[lilac hare]

Here

[blissful tulip]

His relevance cannot be understated enough, same with Taoqi's

They really should release the quests for the starter trio soon

[lilac hare]

Yeah he just appeared as if we knew him and disappeared right after

[blissful tulip]

Not much we know about them beyond their minor appearances in events and other story quests

[small bronze]

im afraid my boy yuanwu will lose his electro mister fister title soon

i want yhan as playable character

im gonna swipe

i would cream

if only this was real

[small bronze]

accurate

and all these quests for the characters are like a mini story quests its really fun :) love this patch

yoo finally something better than my single crit rate changli

[small bronze]

@blissful tulip close enough

yuanwus twin cameo

[lucid pebble]

Anyone running Impermanence Heron on ZZ?

[blissful tulip]

At least he gains relevance this way

[blissful tulip]

Generally better for overall team DPS unless you like seeing higher numbers on ZZ

And the better build for f2p due to a lack of options otherwise

[lucid pebble]

I had turtle on her.

But I'm out of CR herons to roll on.

[neat robin]

Ive got bell verina & heron zz

[small bronze]

what is zz i cant figure it out

ohh the new one?

[blissful tulip]

I use bell verina and Lumen ZZ

[lament shuttle]

Zhezhi

[small bronze]

also is the shopkeeper or whatever her name is confirmed to be phase 1 next patch?

just cause we dont know the second one?

[neat robin]

So

Theres coop achievements for killing bosses

I’m too antisocial on this game

[small bronze]

||after fighting the mech abomination event, are we surprised that xiangli yao is free? (outside story) i cant tell if im tripping but he does feel like a 4*, meanwhile i also called changli before launch a diluc and i got her sig and c1 though||

[small bronze]

[blissful tulip]

They must really love that boss to use it 3 times

[ashen geyser]

It's just so peak

[frosty escarp]

imagine one of these people dies next patch
wuwa stonks

i heard 1.3 is gonna be dark patch

[rotund drum]

it'll probably be midli yao

that's why he was free

[wheat moon]

I mean, u can just ask here

[small bronze]

im not talking about dmg just his gameplay seemed to simple during the mech fight

to be a 5*

but im not special judge

[neat robin]

Ye I meant I didnt even know there were coop achievements to begin with lol

[wheat moon]

That's cool to know at least

[neat robin]

Honestly I like yao gameplay
But its also more mobile friendly then some of these other combo kits

Its more like encore than hsi /changli

[blissful tulip]

I dislike how stiff Yao feels

And his kit is very similar to Calcharos to me

[neat robin]

Calcharo should do more dmg for how difficult it can be to actually pull off his proper full combo in a fight

Actually seeing yao sig though
Skipping it

[weary acorn]

Yao with 4 star weapon is gonna be like

[winged belfry]

IIRC if you do his combos frame perfect and all the swaps, he does have very high teoretical dps

[winged belfry]

mine's going to have bp one, and he's going to be happy about it

[weary acorn]

Calcharo needs u to live in Guangdong

[rotund drum]

this unskippable xiangyao yao cutscene sequence

EOS inc

[weary acorn]

They cooked the camera again

[neat robin]

I had to set my camera distance settings after the update but havnet had issues since

[blissful tulip]

It's about the same as it's always been for me

[wheat moon]

What does this mean

[weary acorn]

0 ping

[edgy cobalt]

players with high ping cannot use midcharo to his fullest lol

without sig and the 16% cd bonus this is what I'll be rocking for xy

so I think I
might as well get the sig since I have absolutely zero gauntlets

[wintry heath]

im debating getting his sig or not too

but i want shorekeeper 😔

[winged belfry]

BP one is pretty good since it's CR and has Liberation DMG%

[edgy cobalt]

its a good contender, but I don’t wanna spend a penny on this game

[clear stump]

Shorekeeper looks really OP you're better off saving for her

[wintry heath]

i know

although i did build some pity on changlis weapon banner and we have the 8 free weapons pulls from monthly shop

so i think ill try my luck with those 8 then give up after that

[clear stump]

I would hold until we know what shorekeeper weapon does

[wintry heath]

i def dont have an interest in shorekeepers weapon unless shes a dps

but ty for advice

[uneven flame]

Cosmic Ripples doesn't stack off field right? For Zhezhi?

Edit: I was told it does stack off field but I'm wondering if anyone actually tested it.

[sweet coral]

Bruh is it just me or are people’s Jinhsi feeling a little off as well

[blissful tulip]

How in particular?

[sweet coral]

Damage seems way less than before for some reason

Idk if they did something to the Havoc/Moonlit tacet field so Ima check if it’s just some hidden effects or my Jinhsi is broken

Oh

Seems like they did something to that specific tacet field

[ashen geyser]

What do I prioritize when leveling up zz's talents

[blissful tulip]

Forte and Ult

[ashen geyser]

I just hit 260k in tower

Idk man

[sweet coral]

Liberation is probably your focus

[ashen geyser]

Seems good to me

[ashen geyser]

Alr

Is it just me or is the ult ratio really bad

[blissful tulip]

Hits 21 times, the ult ratio is just per bird

[ashen geyser]

1365% when maxed

Welp

Good ig

[neat robin]

Got her on some ok moonlit set… +15 echos rn cuz I’m broke

[neat robin]

Hm
One rot verina > zz > jinhsi, had full forte on hsi before skill nuke was ready

Definitely easier to get than yinlin was

[edgy cobalt]

think I’ll be content with using yinlin or even lvl1 yuanwu for her tbh

[blissful tulip]

Happy that Yinlin's free for Yao now

[clear stump]

I just stick with yuanwu because my jinhsi does a lot of dmg with just verina.

43311 btw

[neat robin]

Ive been way too unlucky with spectro set

2.3k atk and 85/225
hsi and sig at lv85

Hoenstly all my builds are bad. Everyone missing 2-3 double crit slots still

[edgy cobalt]

better than me even if I have sig

[neat robin]

I need IR to come back
Need those tuners in shop. Also
Phantom dreamless

[opaque flume]

Can someone send their f2p changli

I feel like mine is doing like

Incredibly low damage

[blissful tulip]

Is our second event on the 22nd?

[queen hollow]

What defines a f2p Changli?

[opaque flume]

Like c0 with 5* standard or 4* weapon

Just not sig

lol

Im just wondering about if im missing something

Mine is 66666 rn for skills and fully lvl 25 inferno echos

With the standard 5*

But I’m hitting like a wet noodle bro

😭

I can’t kill the stone thing in abyss

[edgy cobalt]

what's your crit ratio like

you need to bump up your forte tree, especially your skill, forte and liberation to at least lvl8

if you're at like 70:240 then it should be ok

[queen hollow]

She’s still missing her last 2 atk traces so that should go up a bit more

And her and weapon need lvl 90 still

But that’s with the standard 5* sword

[edgy cobalt]

yeah that's totally fine

[queen hollow]

All her pieces are double crit but most low to mid rolled

[edgy cobalt]

are you doing the proper rotations to cycle out her dmg and so forth

[queen hollow]

Im still in the process of building her

Im too broke for her traces

Money ran out

Also, this girls stats are on crack

When traces and weapon are done she’s gonna be 75/300

[blissful tulip]

Atk's quite low to compensate, curious to see how much damage you do per off field bird

[queen hollow]

Well none of her skill tree is levelled

Except the first 2 crit rate traces

And her weapon is missing 30 levels

It’s a WIP

I just need to farm Dennies

[winged belfry]

just get her Standard 5 star

[blissful tulip]

As long as you do 4k per off field bird you'll do fine

[queen hollow]

It’s gonna take a while to level her skill tree

That shit is expensive

[blissful tulip]

84k off field damage overall sounds strangely meager

[queen hollow]

Im just gonna Slave away in the dennies and skill mats mines

[opaque flume]

Ya I have it

[queen hollow]

All my characters need maxing out after account level 60 now

[blissful tulip]

Haven't been keeping up with the game as much

Can't wait to reach the level 90 materials roadblock

[queen hollow]

It is so fucking expensive

[opaque flume]

It’s horrible

Everything is so expensive

[queen hollow]

But I’m finally mildly satisfied with everyone’s echos so imma just spend the next few weeks farming only materials

[opaque flume]

But honestly artifact farming is so much better

So I’m ok with it

[blissful tulip]

I'm sure 2.1m mora is enough to cope my way through to level up 4 to level 90

ZZ, Chixia, Rover and Jinshi

[queen hollow]

It’s not

[opaque flume]

It’s not

Not even close

I ran through a mil in like 2 seconds

When I got to lvl 60

Lmao

😭

[queen hollow]

80/90 Ascension plus getting to lvl 90 is around 1 mil for 1 character

[blissful tulip]

I'm ecstatic

At least I'm only UL58 right now

[neat robin]

What am I missing
Why does onfield team have like. +16 cdmg right now

[blissful tulip]

The fortune draw gives you a passive buff for the whole day

[neat robin]

I see

I got the worst spin yesterday so didnt know there was a buff

This is only giving 1.7k birds 😔
Lv7 lib, stringmaster

Does basic% echo rolls boost her bird dmg? Because I have 0%

I feel dumb rn

I’m building 2 moonlit sets
But yinlin & zhezhi will both be on stringmaster… I only need different dmg% echos for them.. .

[edgy cobalt]

I’m more than happy to build 2 moonlit sets (ex. mort and sanhua) so I can use less brain cells switching sets for toa

[neat robin]

Mort already has a mid set

I’m just. So damn broke

I have a pile of about 20 partially levelled echos but I have no tuners for them

[small bronze]

im still glad we arent getting mats time gated like in genshin i even forgot that was a thing

[neat robin]

Somewhat time gated when its 2 tuning for 60 stam right now 😭

And I’m pretty sure ul70 doesnt increase tacit drops

[rotund drum]

are people still running out of tuners in 2024

the biggest gates imo are probably the insane amount of mats you need to level up weapons and traces then dennies lol

[small bronze]

i havent been close to run out of tuners and i didnt even synthesize them once

[neat robin]

Apparently I just have really shit echo luck

Cuz I have maybe 6 chars in the 80/220 or 70/240 range and each one has a crit weapon too

[small bronze]

best ive got is this and im not touching it more maybe for one to get more er cause my one 1cost is shiet

[blissful tulip]

Unfortunately in Waves unlike in Genshin, crit isn't always the end all be all solution

Even a double crit echo can be considered shit if the other three stats are def and HP

[neat robin]

Jiyan on er + aero 3costs. and my Jinshi is just sad (atk + dmg 3costs)

Idk yinlin should be fine once she actually gets +25 echos lol
Zhezhi in progress

[small bronze]

wish i had that jiyan stats mine is bad and i got him since day 1 c1 with sig i cant bother to farm the 3 costs maybe one day i will feel like it

this mine

[neat robin]

I have a 2nd aero for mine its just so much comfier with the extra er

He gets more dmg% from sig anyways

[queen hollow]

Didn’t pull for him so all my aero pieces are on jianxin cause she’s prettier

[neat robin]

I basically only farmed for him in 1.0
Got a decent electro set but thats gonna go on yao next half

[queen hollow]

Too bad she doesn’t have a crit weapon

[neat robin]

Shes the only standard I’m missing now

[small bronze]

i still have that guarantee banner idk who to pick i got all other than the furry i might just get c2 verina

[edgy cobalt]

s2 verina is mega godsend

if you alr have 3 teams that can beat tower then I highly rec it

[weary acorn]

That's the same for genshin even more so if we stray away from Bennett bros

[blissful tulip]

Feels worse in Waves imo

[weary acorn]

I think it's just buff sources on waves

But yeah double crit feels so bad here

[weary acorn]

Like we have lesser sources here and verina being like the best 3rd slot

Means that decent mix of pure cv + stats gaps CVs

[queen hollow]

Ngl I might save and wait for another 5* healer support character

[weary acorn]

Shopkeeper is a must pull for this game

Until they make another one for the next next patch

Then that's still a must pull

[queen hollow]

I don’t even know what she does

[weary acorn]

U don't have to

Its gonna be good

A healer with no buffs on this game is doa

[ashen geyser]

They say she's like fuxuan

[queen hollow]

She has butterflies

[ashen geyser]

They cooked too much with verina

[queen hollow]

Im sold

[ashen geyser]

Powercreep in this game is gonna hit like a freight train

[rotund drum]

how can she see the painting without her glasses

is she just drawing stuff randomly on a sheet

i appreciate that they let you skip everything now unlike 1.0 where they forced you to read the most boring parts for no apparent reason

but some of these quests still take forever

gotta click skip like 20 times because the game wants you to walk two feet to the right and interact with something before the next segments tarts

[edgy cobalt]

ngl I just watch youtube while the unskippable cutscenes play

[rotund drum]

the unskippable ones are ok since you can afk and there's no interactions

im talking about the ones that are like skip > READ THE JOURNAL > skip > READ THE JOURNAL AGAIN > skip > GO TO THE NEXT ROOM etc

[edgy cobalt]

oh that lol
should’ve been an unskippable cutscene yeah

[edgy cobalt]

I must be the only player that didn't pull sigs for jhsi and jiyan rofl

sharing the same weapon too

[ashen geyser]

Is jiyan's atk underwhelming or he doesn't have a weap

Nvm they're prolly using razor

[edgy cobalt]

I skill nuke for ~180k at max stacks for jhsi in middle tower, 90 second clear w/ yinlin or 110 second clear w/ yuanwu

[ashen geyser]

I still need to build another dps

[edgy cobalt]

lvl9 forte
I'll check jiyan I maxed his lib recently

[ashen geyser]

Jinhsi is the only good dps I have built

Well there's cal

[edgy cobalt]

having copege crit ratio is annoying especially w/out sig but game is easy anyways so
I shouldn't worry too much

[ashen geyser]

But idk if I wanna use him

[edgy cobalt]

xyao exists so

just wait for september

[ashen geyser]

Him encore and hsi are gonna be my dps

[neat robin]

I’ll have jiyan mort, jinhsi zz, yao yinlin
And encore /hrover/whoever. Sanhua could prob just borrow zz moon set

[edgy cobalt]

oh my fauci 9.2k lib ticks on jiyan

give me his sig and static mist and I can get 13k ticks like everyone else

[neat robin]

I should check how mine is

I havent used him with verina in the past couple towers so lost that atk buff

His lib cast dmg is sorta satisfying, ik its still bad but 60k numbers on screen from the charged forte

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/jinshi-jinxi-wuwa-wuwa-jinxi-jinxi-wuwa-gif-6888474920101217135

[leaden moat]

How much better is zhezhi teams for jinshi compared to other options ?

[edgy cobalt]

lets use yuanwu as a baseline for tower:
using yinlin instead saves you 20 seconds
using zhezhi instead saves you maybe 30-40 seconds and she’s easier to use

[glacial ermine]

can anyone help me with coop trophies?

[ashen geyser]

You in asia?

[glacial ermine]

i mean sea server

[burnt shoal]

zhezhi op https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1eubprr/zhezhi_can_regen_stamina_in_the_air_useful_when/

[lilac hare]

Do we know shorekeeper’s weapon type?

Is it Rectifier?

[lament shuttle]

Yes

[lucid pebble]

[sweet coral]

Bro thinks people with glasses live with them their entire life and not that she got them later on

[rotund drum]

why does she wear glasses if shes deaf etc

[neat robin]

11.4k ult tics on my er+aero jiyan
12.5k with aero+aero, but loses 25 er

Idk. I dont like having to use skill 2 extra times it messes up rot & mort verina sometimes give outro before I get jiyan ult ready again

[edgy cobalt]

if your rotations are borderline perfect like mine you only need 20% ER for mort and jiyan

[neat robin]

Mort and verina have ult back, jiyan is like halfway

[edgy cobalt]

if it’s perfect like this guy’s then drop it to 15% https://youtu.be/Tm0DJ_oQZYY?si=1X6jpQgnNBXZMXLS

but you know
can’t imagine anyone doing this on mobile

[neat robin]

Its. Not the easiest

[edgy cobalt]

gotta whip out the claw playstyle

[neat robin]

Id have to change my hud

Theres enough similar buttons I could honestly match my codm hud 😂

[edgy cobalt]

definitely should

when I used to play fort mobile it felt mandatory to change hud

to get better and keep up with console/pc

if wuwa lets you change hud then it’s your best way to improve
considering ur a codm main

[neat robin]

I wanna go for the fully maxed tree achievement but this was already so annoying

Yeah you can change hud on mobile. Thankfully

[edgy cobalt]

give it a try, can always revert

[neat robin]

I already changed it slightly but. I need more button spamm

[edgy cobalt]

I forgot if normal attack scales for jiyan’s lib since it includes heavies but I alr pushed it to lvl9 lol

[rotund drum]

it doesnt iirc

wuwa does the gbf gimmick where differnet moves are just randomly classified as whatever they want them to be classified as

instead of by the node

[edgy cobalt]

yeah its weird

[neat robin]

If they use lib for damage you want lib levelled, but if lib says ‘does basic/heavy etc dmg’ you want that type on echos

Or something

Anyways this looks absolutely cursed
I’m gonna hit wrong buttons so much til I get used to it

[rocky oak]

today my wuwa client somehow broke down

oh, i fixed it

somehow there were 2 wuwa processes running in the background which didn't end automatically even when i closed the game last time

[edgy cobalt]

if only I can convert all 28m creds into actual creds

[edgy cobalt]

man is gonna shave 30 seconds off tower with this setup 🔥

[rotund drum]

i just noticed i have a really low average number of pulls on limited banner but they're all lingyang and calcharo lol

dunno if that counts as good or bad luck

[wintry heath]

free guarantees, I guess?

[rotund drum]

actually still better on average than winning every 50/50 at soft pity actually

looking at the history it looks like i got 8 5*s in 195 rolls which is pretty crazy overall

except they're half lingyang lmao

i suspect wuwa might be rigging their gacha rates tbh

to make people think they're "lucky"

like how mhy has hidden soft pity

so people will pull 80 times and be like yay i got an "early" 5* this game is great

iirc zzz has a reverse pity too

you have slightly higher rates early on in the pity

first roll is 1% then it slowly declines to the advertised .6% then jumps back up for soft pity

makes it more likely to see double 5* rolls i guess

[neat robin]

This is just good luck

[rotund drum]

it roughly matches up with what i've seen other people getting though

idk if there's a data aggregator like for mhy games

[neat robin]

Yours averages to 48 per limited

Meanwhile even with my losses I spend 80 per limited on average

[rotund drum]

https://wuwatracker.com/convene/global kinda hard to tell since it doesnt do the math on average rates

but it does look a bit like it starts slightly higher on

[neat robin]

Pity will be closer to 65 than genshins 75 too, since hard pity is less

[lilac hare]

Same

[rotund drum]

yeah looks like soft pity at 65

66 actually

[cobalt cobalt]

I fell through a wall

[spice finch]

Whats the white/yellow bar under enemies' HP?

[neat robin]

Toughness, basically
Parries & counters & outro swaps help drop it faster, temprarily stuns enemy once empty

[spice finch]

Do we deal more damage if it's yellow?

Or it's like a timer to become white again

[neat robin]

Timer yeah

[ashen geyser]

If only this game wasn't so laggy

I'd actually complete the monkey hologram

You literally can't see the clone monkeys on low

[wheat moon]

Oof

[rotund drum]

just wait till shorecreeper i guess and bruteforce it

[edgy cobalt]

auto dodge enabling mobile players to beat tower real

[ashen geyser]

Tower is eh

But hologram is just bs

[neat robin]

Hmmmm

I’m missing double crit glacio%

But

Cdmg main without cr sub, or cr main without cdmg sub

[rotund drum]

seems like a pretty easy pick

they're adding new echoes in 1.2 anyway so may as well wait

if jue and the sword counter one are any indication they'll be op

[neat robin]

I think once I get double crit on the glacio% I’m gonna overcap with a cr main

Or itd be like 101 cr if they’re min rolls

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/jinshi-jinxi-wuwa-wuwa-jinxi-jinxi-wuwa-gif-6888474920101217135

[neat robin]

Mm. Guess I could just leave it
Cr main if everything else has cdmg and atk%

[ashen geyser]

Bro your zz is better than my jinhsi with sig

I'm fucking cooked

[neat robin]

I mean string is 36 cr for her

Thats not all echo stats

[ashen geyser]

Only rolled one atk% that's why it's only 1.6k atk

Got lucky with skill bonus though

Rolled it on every single one of the echoes

[edgy cobalt]

I run 60:190 lmao
missing crits are annoying so one time I ran 70:180...

[neat robin]

I have a feeling I had an atk moon event buff earlier

Cuz these are actual atk stats when not in team

…

Zz has 24% skill dmg
Yinlin 17% basic

🙃

[edgy cobalt]

left tower is inferno rider, right tower is aix, middle tower is scar and mech
mobs are different too but they shouldn't be a problem

looks like it's encore's time to shine in middle tower while midyan and midhsi take the rest

[leaden moat]

Just trying to decide if getting zhezhi is worth for jinhshi or just saving for shore keeper…I have yinlin and i have a decent amount of exploring but if I pull zhezhi I will have zero wishes basically (pre events tho)

[wheat moon]

Shorekeeper looks yummy but I'd wait

Until more info comes out

There's no harm in waiting

I think ur jinxi will do fine even without zhezhi tbh

[rotund drum]

borekeeper

[edgy cobalt]

insert minecraft joke about creeper here

[edgy cobalt]

forgot about this, when will they add a namecard for clearing tower lol

[midnight bloom]

Xiangli Yao Nerf (Liberation)

"Cogitation Model DMG" nerfed in 1.2.10

• 737.42% → 670.38%
• 797.89% → 725.35%
• 858.35% → 780.32%
• 943.01% → 857.28%
• 1003.48% → 912.25%
• 1073.02% → 975.47%
• 1169.76% → 1063.42%
• 1266.51% → 1151.38%
• 1363.26% → 1239.33%
• 1466.06% → 1332.78%
• 1586.99% → 1442.72%
• 1707.93% → 1552.66%
• 1828.87% → 1662.61%
• 1949.80% → 1772.55%
• 2070.74% → 1882.49%
• 2191.67% → 1992.43%
• 2312.61% → 2102.37%
• 2433.54% → 2212.31%
• 2554.48% → 2322.26%
• 2675.42% → 2432.20%

Notes :

• Ingame hasnt changed
• That's really similar to his numbers pre-buff (first nerf)
• His s5 is back to 120% (was 100%)

[clear stump]

It's joever

[wheat moon]

Bro

Wtf man 😭

[blissful tulip]

Is this ToA even harder than previously? I feel that they're increasing HP rather quickly

[copper flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/no-crying-feels-gif-11112654

[dense elbow]

is scar still in there? coz they fkn nerfed him 😭

[blissful tulip]

He's now in the middle tower

Very bulky as well

[dense elbow]

[blissful tulip]

They nerfed his attack rate but not his HP

[midnight bloom]

Difficulty Lowered in TOA

[rotund drum]

hopefully zhezhi saves toa

[lament shuttle]

Why are there so many

Isn’t there 10 tls

[frosty escarp]

We becoming genshin with this one

[midnight bloom]

oh, not that far

murmdespair

i think they'll need to cut the hp by half and enemies to move about 3x slower to match genshin difficulty

[blissful tulip]

It's so much easier now

[frosty escarp]

They cut the hp

[midnight bloom]

yea, about 15-20% approx

[rotund drum]

i remember when people asked if this game has powercreep and everyone was like "no kurogames doesnt do powercreep for at least a year" lol

[ebon jasper]

that hp nerf is understandable but not the scar moveset nerf

scar is fun

[midnight bloom]

moveset is still the same

[ebon jasper]

not as frequent as before

[midnight bloom]

hmm~4 i didn't notice anything

[ebon jasper]

i worded it wrong

he cough a lot and no longer connects combo

[midnight bloom]

lol

his attacks don't feel like 1-2 shots now at least

which is good imo

[ebon jasper]

moveset1 -> connects moveset2
but now moveset1 -> afk for 2s (cough) -> start moveset2

[hollow viper]

Is this event worth listening to

[lament shuttle]

if you like the cast and learning about them yes

[rotund drum]

its just lantern rite

its also really fucking long

so depends on how much you care i guess

there's a daily refresh though so ideally you speed it asap

[blissful tulip]

It only takes around 3-4 days to finish the event fully given that, though

[rotund drum]

takes a bit more than that if you want all the shop rewards i think

although most of the final stuff is crap anyway

[lament shuttle]

im only missing the 12 SS tier

its locked behind getting 250/250/250 on 3 chars

[blissful tulip]

I didn't need that, you mainly just need to get lucky with eurekas

[small bronze]

im rich

[small bronze]

doesent chixia do something when she fires 30 bullets? or am i trippin

i swear i read it yesterday but now i cant find it?

it even shows on the concerto bar

[blissful tulip]

Enhanced skill

When pressing M1 after 30 bullets

It lingers after being hit once and dodging before pressing M1

[small bronze]

ohh okay that was part of it

i was reading c6 yesterday and it boosts dmg when u cast it

thanks

[edgy cobalt]

that’s just the initial dmg from his ult no?

what was 24k dealt in his story trial would be something like 20-22k then

[fickle kernel]

is xiangli yao gonna giga gap calcharo

my calcharo c2 feelsbad

calcharo much hotter...

[rotund drum]

didnt they nerf him

not that calcharo is any good though

i remember when people were mega coping in 1.0 about he was almost as good as encore or jiyan if you played him right so he's fine etc

then 1.1 was just like btw have some massive powercreep

then 1.2 is just oops we forgot to creep the tower to match but we fixed that now

[midnight bloom]

WRONG, Xly is same as before

Some mf read the leak from 2 weeks ago backwards

[lucid pebble]

30/30 pre-8/19 gang.

[midnight bloom]

Still 21 gang

[dense elbow]

Was gonna say lmao hadnt heard of an update today

[lucid pebble]

Having played her some more, ZZ definitely feels more on-fielder than off-field support.

If you’re only using her for her ult, you’re losing out on 80% of her kit.

[dense elbow]

Id very much disagree

You fill her forte and consume it for 3 birb stacsk

[neat robin]

Ult > fill forte, skill basic skillx3 > outro to jinhsi

[dense elbow]

Then those buff your basic dmg which buffs ur ult

[neat robin]

Heron in there somewhere

[dense elbow]

Mhm, its not particularly long

No need to spend significant field time on her unless youre weaving swap cancels

[neat robin]

I’m assuming her birds fill her forte cuz ive finished jinshi skill nuke & zz already has 2/3 forte

[dense elbow]

She gets 45 forte from intro

[neat robin]

No point when you’d lose all that skill% on jinhsi imo

[dense elbow]

So intro + B1-3 is enough for full forte

[dense elbow]

Agreed im just used to doing it with yinlin lmao

But that's actually yinlins role so

[neat robin]

I’m so annoyed at my moonlit echos

I need yinlins free cr for her build

[dense elbow]

I conveniently had good ice pieces so mines running on that 😭

[neat robin]

But yinlin has basic dmg subs & zz has skill dmg subs

[lament shuttle]

Middle scar very tanky

Prob need encore to 90 to 3 dorito it

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/jinshi-jinxi-wuwa-wuwa-jinxi-jinxi-wuwa-gif-6888474920101217135

What was nerfed on Scar?

[blissful tulip]

His attack rate

[lucid pebble]

But muh dodge attacks.

[neat robin]

I hate the stupid aix so much

[midnight bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-dragon-ball-z-unlimited-power-over9000-power-level-gif-12316102

[neat robin]

I wanna build aalto because he looks so fun but then I’m on mobile and really how well can he actually play

[dusty crown]

be me
73% crit rate on jinhsi
in 3 attempts against scar in tower : crit just 4 times on her nuke

on like 15 or something

t_T

[edgy cobalt]

I would be happy with 73%, I'm rocking 60%

[neat robin]

I suck
21* tower rewards only again

Whats encore skill priority

I think I have all but intro to lv7
Cant even get 2* on scar
Lv83 encore lv90 string

[edgy cobalt]

lib and skill takes priority

ran my encore with sanhua and baizhi against scar and had like 15 seconds to spare

[blissful tulip]

Shame I don't have the DPS for Scar yet

[leaden moat]

What’s better : getting zhezhi and then risking xiangli Yao sig and shorekeeper or skipping zhezhi and getting guaranteed shorekeeper and xiangli Yao weapon.

I have jinshi sig yin and her sig (F2P) sitting on a guaranteed but very low pulls

[frosty escarp]

getting yao weapon + shorekeeper

[dire river]

What was shore keepers element + weapon type again?

Same as verina?

[winged belfry]

I've lost 4th consequitive 50/50 in WuWa

And it was like 76

Man

This game really doesn't want me playing it

[burnt shoal]

meanwhile i quit for a day (only cause downloading took me forever) and wuwa rewarded me with zhezhi only my 10 pull

from login new patch wishes

was 20 pity in so like 30 pity won my 2nd 50/50

guess wuwa doesn't want me to quit rip

[small bronze]

im surprised how much they juicing zhezhi

will multiple cinematics

i guess booba characters speak for themselves no need for em

yinlin is good with changli?

[opaque violet]

Yes

[dense elbow]

mfw they just nerfed tower again

😭

[ashen geyser]

I see this as an absolute win

[small bronze]

what is this tempest mephis oneshot attack

[analog cliff]

devs: "so the stats came out, and all the text says is 'skill issue', we have adjusted the gameplay difficulty accordingly"

[dense elbow]

😭

[midnight bloom]

2 more days bois

[small bronze]

i wish there was a separate button to parry

and not during attacking

[ashen geyser]

Why would you not want to parry

[dense elbow]

Parries slow down time occasionally but dont slow the timer

And you dont do extra damage when an enemy is stunned

So as long as you can still hit them, parrying can end up losing you time rather than gaining

[lament shuttle]

Again???

[dense elbow]

"best part of wuwa is the combat"

[clear stump]

If parry stunned the enemy and also give you % dmg bonus during that slow time then it'll probably be worth it. Now it's worth absolutely nothing.

[wheat moon]

Gg

[rotund drum]

zhezhi's ken combo actually does a pretty decent amount

its like 5 hits of 300%

more than midyan or midcharo at least

[midnight bloom]

nope, this is the mail from yesterday

[lament shuttle]

its dated 08/20 on her screenshot

[midnight bloom]

well timezone diff

but it's the same toa nerf we talked about

#・wuwa-lounge message @lament shuttle

[neat robin]

Well I have tuners now…

[lament shuttle]

i just hit ul63 damn

[midnight bloom]

not for long

pepela~3

[neat robin]

Yk whats funny. 1 single double crit echo on her

But its rider so thats fine. I’ll eventually go back to the fusion/electro field… maybe

[barren drift]

vroom

[neat robin]

[dense elbow]

from when i posted it, that mail arrived 2 mins before

weird it only came today when i was online yesterday

but echnically we did get 2 ToA nerfs lol

1st to scar and now in general

[edgy cobalt]

why they make the game easier 😔

I want scar to spam moves so I can spam dodge counters with encore and deal pog dps

[neat robin]

Too bad you cant use danjin counters to full effect on him

[rotund drum]

imagine whaling for a char but you cant even do combos with her

you'd be mad too

[rotund drum]

is this patch even getting content

other than the skip festival

inb4 skip festival was the content

[blissful tulip]

In 2 days we'll have Illusive realm, then two more events after

Co-op tower defense and a rerun of the 1.0 combat mode

[rotund drum]

better than zenless zone zero content i guess

[opaque flume]

Are the waves wuthered

[midnight bloom]

Yes

[lucid pebble]

Why am I always out of rings?

[rotund drum]

elden rings

[neat robin]

Hmm. Sig already pushed jinhsi to start preferring atk+spec 3costs
Think zz skill dmg outro pushes it to hsi wanting full atk%?

[burnt shoal]

i think jinhsi c1 already does that

[neat robin]

I might keep ahold of atk mains then

Not that I have c1
But if skill% boost makes double atk mains better, prob worth it for zz hsi team

[dusty crown]

how do i win the eureka (lost 9 in a row with 50% or more )

[opaque flume]

Is wuwa laggy for any of yall

[neat robin]

Nah its been fine for me

[opaque flume]

My shit is lagging even tho it’s using like 40% of my gpu

And 7% of my cpu

[neat robin]

Just keep going. Hope your actual 50/50s arent that bad

[opaque flume]

Is there like a setting I got on or smth

[dusty crown]

do you mean on the event banners

[neat robin]

Oh well
Mobile is fine idk. Its all most low-med settings and smooth

[opaque flume]

I’m on pc

[neat robin]

Yeah lol. All rng still
Eureka is just whatever chance depending on how much you spend

[opaque flume]

im tripping dawg

the average fps is 58 btw

😭

Cause I keep lagging

[dusty crown]

🙂 🙂 🙂

in genshin i'm at 16 wins vs 21 losses (for the character banner, i'm insanely lucky on the weapon banner though)

got the weapon i wanted 9 times out of 14 5-stars pulls, and 2 of the times i got one i didn't want were under 10 pulls anyways

so that balances out

[opaque flume]

@dense elbow should i change any of this

[dense elbow]

Iirc disabling fullscreen optimisations can sometimes help some games but it generally should be left enabled

Could also try turning on fsr/dlss whatever on wuwa if u dont

Or vsync

[opaque flume]

i have dlss on but vsync off i heard it doesnt work great with AMD

[dense elbow]

At least early on i had bad camera issues caused by UE4 performance issues which was solved by vsync being on altho they fixed that in the end

5600x + 2080ti tho so

[opaque flume]

oh huh i might turn it on then

[dense elbow]

Always worth a try imo

[opaque flume]

ive heard AMD software doesnt play nice with vsync

[dense elbow]

Considering the input lag imo is not rly noticable

[dense elbow]

Personally not had issues with it with an amd cpu but dont have an amd gpu

[opaque flume]

i have nvidia gpu

so

[dense elbow]

Should be alright then since its a gpu related setting

[opaque flume]

ngl wuwa legit might have the worlds worst servers

idk why i have fucking 150 ping on NA when i live in north america dawg

where are these servers

my ping the east coast of the united states

[dense elbow]

😭

[lament shuttle]

Mine is 31 on east coast you sure ur device isn’t shit

[opaque flume]

I live in sf

On the west coast

And I have 60 ping to the east coast

Is what I’m saying

My ping for wuwa is like 150

💀

[opaque flume]

When do we get free xiangli

[rotund drum]

hopefully never

[blissful tulip]

Sept 13th

[opaque flume]

Why he’s cool

In the event

[neat robin]

My fav chars all throw hands

Heizou, cyno wrio … idk about yao himself but I liked his playstyle in his trial

[rotund drum]

his thing took literally ages to charge in the trial and went away almost instantly

maybe its better with proper ER subs

[queen hollow]

First lvl 90

This shit is expensive

[edgy cobalt]

I left 4 of my characters at lvl89 lol

[leaden moat]

Is it worth getting a C6 sanhua to 70/80 ? So I can get her talents higher ?

[ashen geyser]

80 for sure yeah

[edgy cobalt]

if you have s6 sanhua she better be lvl90

[wraith steeple]

but its expensive

[edgy cobalt]

oh 100%

but she’s a really good support to consider investing her moderately

[rotund drum]

i have s6 yuanwu

literally impossible to die

[edgy cobalt]

yuanwu > zhezhi

[wraith steeple]

oh word????

I should invest in him???

[rotund drum]

you dont need to hyperinvest

just level him up a bit and give him some def echoes

so his shield becomes op

[edgy cobalt]

or be like me and use him at lvl1

[rotund drum]

def actually scales pretty high so his damage gets ok

they might nerf it even

he ends up with like twice the def as most chars get in atk even with 5* weapons

[edgy cobalt]

nerf him by releasing a better character than him in 2.x

[rotund drum]

just add bangboos that buff def

there's already a robot in the event

[vapid river]

leifa

zz's sig

gives 72% crit

at 90

what in the actual fuck

[dense elbow]

lower base atk weaapon lol

altho iirc the difference between low and high base atk on a carry wasnt actually that much

[vapid river]

by like 25 or 50

isn't it?

[dense elbow]

someone compared it on jinhsi recently iirc if her sig was lower base atk

the difference wasnt that much

[vapid river]

jiyan's is 587

[dense elbow]

low enuf you wouldnt be like "oh i want a lower base atk weapon" for example

[vapid river]

she also got more atk from flat 50 than 7.1%

[dense elbow]

😭

[vapid river]

is her base atk just dogshit?

[dense elbow]

tbf flat atk is pretty decent here

[vapid river]

like flat atk might actually be good for her

unless you can get 8+

[dense elbow]

375 base vs jinhsi 413

[vapid river]

iirc it was almost 10 atk difference

oh yeah

hmm

atk% works off of weapon and base atk

[dense elbow]

jinhsi at max is 1000 base atk with sig
zhezhi is 875

[vapid river]

right?

[dense elbow]

thats very significant

[dense elbow]

yeah base atk is char + weapon

[vapid river]

ye

[dense elbow]

altho even then if ages of harvest was lower base atk but higher crit rate

the difference on jinhsi at least is like

negligible

[vapid river]

like 8% atk at max adds 70

[dense elbow]

i mean flat atk always good imo

its much better than dmg% sources in echoes

[vapid river]

yeah ig at max 50 is ~10 less than 7% atk

true

[dense elbow]

like i wouldnt scoff if i got flat atk on a piece as long as it was double crit

[vapid river]

looking at the dmg breakdown for zz it's like

[dense elbow]

[vapid river]

why even bother with anything else?

cr/cd/atk%/atk

[dense elbow]

mhm

[vapid river]

ofc er

[dense elbow]

yeah she wants a bit of ER

[vapid river]

but like, no res skill or lib

[dense elbow]

im at 120% ER or smth with s1 and i struggle abit at times

😭

[vapid river]

she's off field and wants to stay off for so long

[dense elbow]

yeah any important dmg from her skill is basic dmg iirc

[vapid river]

like, 20% should be fine

[dense elbow]

and her ult is entirely basic

😭

[vapid river]

yeah

kinda dumb

imo

but it is what it is

[dense elbow]

they did it specifically to synergise with 5pc ice

[vapid river]

at least i don't need pure heavy atks to proc her dmg

[dense elbow]

lmao

[vapid river]

i thought she wanted 5pc moonlit?

[dense elbow]

she does for overall team dmg

[vapid river]

ye

i'm not trying to solo dmg

zz

[dense elbow]

i just mean the condition for 5pc ice requires basic or heavy dmg lol

[vapid river]

oh yeah

honestly, shouldn't this raise lingyang stonks?

[dense elbow]

my zhezhi is on 5pc ice coz i happened to get a great set stupidly quickly whilst farming for xiangli stuff

[vapid river]

i bet if he's built decent they synergize well

[dense elbow]

its not bad synergy

just

lingyang is shit

[vapid river]

i didn't have any ice built

or moonlit

[dense elbow]

neither

[vapid river]

and figured she'd be very useful in tower

[dense elbow]

just when farming for xiangli at the same time

electro is paired with either fusion or glacio

[vapid river]

ah

[dense elbow]

so i happened to get a rly gud set for zhezhi rly quickly

[vapid river]

her wep

is so dumb

[dense elbow]

[vapid river]

like

missing ~15%cdmg

[dense elbow]

i want it but xiangli sig is gonna be much more influential

😔

[vapid river]

true

ez swipe though

[dense elbow]

bro im poor af rn

💀

[vapid river]

not for you

[edgy cobalt]

nothing will raise his usage unless the game gives everyone s6r5 lingyang for free or something

[vapid river]

speaking for myself

[dense elbow]

gimme?

🥺

[vapid river]

[dense elbow]

[vapid river]

sorry leifa

[vapid river]

i have s2

which isn't something to brag about

trust me

[dense elbow]

90% of standard cons are still shit

[vapid river]

i'd rather have jianxin

[dense elbow]

s0 to s6 on almost all standard chars was like

a 30% increase or smth i swear

[vapid river]

ye it wasn't much

i think cal had the highest

[dense elbow]

good he needs it

[vapid river]

but it doesn't matter if you can't play him perfectly

[dense elbow]

encores just

[vapid river]

or near perfect

[dense elbow]

an amazing base in general tho

like

they messed up on this girl imo

[vapid river]

isn't encore kinda brain dead though?

[dense elbow]

[vapid river]

[dense elbow]

shes way too good

and way too easy to play

altho to play rly well she has some pretty tight combos

but she just works so well

[vapid river]

isn't there a quick swap team with her

that does really well?

[dense elbow]

encore yinlin

[vapid river]