・wuwa-lounge

[barren drift]

more dps..

[neat robin]

Zhezhi weapon wtf?

Also if xiangli is all liberation dmg is there even anything somewhat okay on him? Most of them buff skill%

[night mantle]

charcters?

[ashen geyser]

They're saying bp gauntlet is good on him

[night mantle]

yinlin

[ashen geyser]

Thank god we don't have to cope for calculator

[night mantle]

we have to

moonlit vs electro set yinlin 🙂

[ashen geyser]

I mean

The guy is literally free

[neat robin]

I dont want to farm a new set for yinlin
And yet… cals leftovers are so bad I need to farm a full new set anyways if xiangli really ends up free

Its a toss up between wanting to finish all the pssive stats in talent trees vs farming tacet to actually get everyone (mainly my 3 dps) on solid builds

Since the echos can just be shuffled to any new dps who wants that set

[ashen geyser]

Well I'm kinda thankful I used cal as my main dps before jinhsi

[edgy cobalt]

glad I didn't pull him

[neat robin]

I got cal from the initial banner

Hes still fun but losing dmg to quickswap… if only yinlin outro stayed when he left field

[ashen geyser]

Welp

[night mantle]

gachagaming sub-reddit has gone crazy

mass reported and blocked any genshin teaser posted

[blissful tulip]

They really want to make that 100% rate up count

[ashen geyser]

Why what happened

[sacred mortar]

can we optimize wuwa from nvidia app?

[robust axle]

No i dont think

Its not on the games list last I've checked

[lament shuttle]

If those weapons are real I’m not sure how you get 6 stacks with zhezhi since you can only get 3?

Or is it a translation thing

[knotty fiber]

idk who put "6" there lol

[burnt monolith]

Just realized that switching between Xiangli and Yinlin would probably be more comfy than switching with Cal and Yinlin, from reading Xiangli's kit.

Because unlike Cal whose state has a duration, Xiangli's state duration is tied to him having hyper cubes present

Unless they slap a max duration on his state later on into beta

[ornate basalt]

Low roll on CD but oh well

What can you do

[cobalt apex]

nice

i should get back to echoes farming...

but echoes is...

[night mantle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1e1cj6s/instant_clear_tempest_mephis_hologram_trick/

I see

[neat robin]

😭

Maybe I should try. I feel like mobile will not let that work though

[neat robin]

You cant get its aggro from outside

Aaltos mist just bounces up and off to the side

[edgy cobalt]

mephis is the only hologram6 I gotta clear, can do it legit but lazing around tbh

[night mantle]

his 3rd or 4th BA hits if you are close to the barrier

also mephis drown sometimes and sometimes doesn't...so you might need to do it 4-5 times

Zhezhi all moves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv0TA8W90ZE

[neat robin]

Well ig its good I’m not busy today 😭

[knotty fiber]

I hate looking at PGR's kits

all text walls

new Lucia's is actually milder than I thought, but Balter leap man

hopefully WuWa isn't taking the same route

[night mantle]

also xiangli moves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbsksBmxF9A

[night mantle]

and he looks pretty cool and strong

[neat robin]

Is there a trick to dodging the heron’s breath attack?

[night mantle]

use inferno rider to run away

the recommended way is to go behind him using grapple hook

but I was still getting hit, so I hopped on rider

[neat robin]

Not that one, the one where he flies around breathing fire

After he goes midair idk how to dodge enough

[night mantle]

yup for that also you have to go behind him

you can't outrun him

[neat robin]

Hm

[night mantle]

https://youtu.be/bBHvDloxUOY?si=uRtjNtSS2GmkvCdE&t=119

[edgy cobalt]

I literally run away and jump dodge if I have to

[ashen geyser]

Just go under him

[neat robin]

He was flying backwards/sideways 🙃

Anyways

I always dodge too early specifically on heron’s attacks

[ashen geyser]

He's by far the easiest boss on there

Ape is so hard for me idk why

Skill issue

[neat robin]

They’re all hard on mobile

I can dodge the ape easier than heron

Once they start flying behind/above its really hard to keep track of them

[rotund drum]

the ape is mostly just annoying when he does the shinkuu tatsumaki senpuu-kyaku

and you have to just mash dodge like 50x or die

the hadokens are annoying too

hes basically just ryu

[weary acorn]

Hardest ones are the vfx vomit bosses

Some effects just blends well with their atk colors too

[ashen geyser]

Real

Imagine dodging the spin to win with 30fps or less

[knotty fiber]

imagine Aix in hazard

[edgy cobalt]

I just gotta beat tempest6 which is doable

then I can call holograms mid

[ornate basalt]

[blissful tulip]

Tempest 6 is the only boss I genuinely hated fighting

Everyone else had a hiccup or two but were satisfying to beat

[edgy cobalt]

I'm embracing its movesets, I genuinely believe tempest takes the most skill to beat

I cheesed crownless, aix and heron are a joke
and ape isn't bad because its moves and clones are predictable

[lilac hare]

Holy. It worked

Can’t believe I finished dif 6 with lvl 1 chixia and aalto

[hollow gorge]

just in case, you can fly over spin to win, it creates an updraft you can glide on

[neat robin]

Oh the gorilla spin is easy to dodge he moves so slowly

If you’re close to him though you can dodge the spin and then he steps on top of you and its 30k+ dmg

[lament thorn]

whats the answer

i should be ashamed considering i read 700 chapters of kingdom

[neat robin]

I think I picked rear

[ashen geyser]

Isn't flank from the sides

Or smth

[neat robin]

Yeah

[spare falcon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/s/Myapjb7ydg
Memphis cheese is crazy lol

[edgy cobalt]

people would do anything to not fight holograms lol

like that time slow glitch awhile back

[grim grove]

Thanks I just got my 13s Tempest Mephis clear

Difficulty 6

[night mantle]

[burnt shoal]

omg i did the cheese for the first time with aalto

[burnt shoal]

it's so hard to rng that spot i guess i just got lucky

[ashen geyser]

Is it true that people are getting banned for bug abusing

[lilac hare]

Same

[neat robin]

It shouldnt be unless you’re using third party or selling/buying accounts

[burnt shoal]

drowning is a legit mechanic

in wuwa

the only thing buggy there is the motorcycle

[neat robin]

Its not the players fault if they have glitches within the game that affect fights

[burnt shoal]

that allows you to go outside the area

[lilac hare]

I wonder if there are other glitches that affect fights

[neat robin]

The gun one near the beginning. They patched it, people werent banned

[burnt shoal]

it's not as ez as it looks

takes so many retries

rip

[dusk sky]

Guys jianxian or encore? Or calcharo or verina c1?

[lament shuttle]

My calchero hitting the bench asap

[edgy cobalt]

s2 verina

[wheat moon]

I kept teleporting way before on aix fight

On the branches

Idk if that was patched

[small bronze]

are weekly talents always 1 each

or is like 10 2

[edgy cobalt]

I get 2, forgot if I get 3 sometimes

[cobalt apex]

its 2-3

at least at UL 50

[small bronze]

ah nono i mean when upgrading

is the cost 1 each always

cause im at 8 now and its still 1 it looks like

[cobalt apex]

yep

always 1

[small bronze]

yo look at these rolls

for my jian

imagine if it had ER too

[night mantle]

yeah but what would you remove

[small bronze]

this good right? i only need a little more ER

[night mantle]

yeah looks good

I think at least 130 er is recommended

[small bronze]

also what i max crit rate u can get

i thought its 10?

[cobalt apex]

max cv roll is 21

[small bronze]

cv?

[night mantle]

cd

[small bronze]

yea but im asking crit rate

[cobalt apex]

crit value

10.5 cr

21 cd

[night mantle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1e254fr/echo_substat_ranges/#lightbox

[small bronze]

i wish we could see the mainstat of an echo when we collect it

somehow

[night mantle]

tell me it was weekend without telling me it was weekend

[small bronze]

its pain to go and check everytime

[cobalt apex]

i mean

just go check after uve finished the route

[ashen geyser]

I wish we can see like atleast one of the substats before rolling the echo

[small bronze]

with what did you do tower that high

can u show your main dpses stats im curious

[night mantle]

middle tower team?

[small bronze]

just the 3 dpses u used

cause its 3 teams right

[night mantle]

ahh can't say exactly

I think these 4 matter

working on yinlin skill upgrades and chixia echos

[neat robin]

The struggles of finding double crit & atk echos but you really need er subs

Everyone is suffering
At least on my jinhsi I could sacrifice a cr sub for er when I’m rolling new 3costs

[cobalt apex]

@knotty fiber man i keep getting baited into leveling things like this

😭

this is so depressing

[knotty fiber]

I've been baited for too many times now

[neat robin]

If first 3 arent from cr/cdmg/er/atk% its ded

[knotty fiber]

So I'm taking a break

[cobalt apex]

idk if er even benefit changli

since even if u can get 5 er subs

[knotty fiber]

Because if I keep doing echoes then I will be tempted to use rocks to refill

[cobalt apex]

u will ult every other rot anyways

[knotty fiber]

Which, I always succumb to

[cobalt apex]

[knotty fiber]

So yeah I'm doing forte and credits now

[cobalt apex]

what ive got going for changli

dreadmane is kinda but

[knotty fiber]

I'm still in the middle of fixing the cost 3

[cobalt apex]

ive finished prefarming changli

took roughly 52 runs

[neat robin]

I need to fix all 3costs on my 4 dps chars 😭
I just accepted double crit and whatver hp/def subs they got

[knotty fiber]

It's because I knew there's x2 so I've been delaying it til now

[cobalt apex]

ill just be farming credits

since i need a lot of it

[knotty fiber]

Pain in the add

[cobalt apex]

maybe some char and weapon xp aswell

[knotty fiber]

Cuz when I reach 60

Each character I build will cost me 2m

[cobalt apex]

i wont be reaching 60 anytime soon

[knotty fiber]

[cobalt apex]

[knotty fiber]

80 to 90 is fucking expensive

The weapon alone costs 500k

[cobalt apex]

im 1 pity away from standard weapon banner soft pity

[cobalt apex]

do i get baited...

[neat robin]

1 more roll surely

[cobalt apex]

:Clueless:

[neat robin]

It is low cdmg roll though

[cobalt apex]

not enough xp to minmax crit

[neat robin]

Do ul50 tacet fields not drop 1 costs anymore?

I dont think ive seen any this past week doing 1-2 fields a day

[cobalt apex]

NOT ANOTHER ONE

JUST GIVE ME DOUBLE CRIT ALREADY

[knotty fiber]

[cobalt apex]

decide those 2 pcs for me

[knotty fiber]

Yk

[cobalt apex]

[knotty fiber]

I'd continue both

But it's not really worth it

Assuming you win 1/9 but it's min roll then

[cobalt apex]

fuck it imma continue the 15cd one

[knotty fiber]

That's the only one worth to

But if you're desperate then both

[cobalt apex]

DEF HAHAHAHA

imma just get a new one going

[neat robin]

Finding cr cdmg as first 2 then it goes 3x into hp/def is the worst

[knotty fiber]

My Jiyan and Yinlin cost 1 have 21-6.9 and 19.8-9.9 respectively

First 2 rolls

Then they went to shit the last 3

[cobalt apex]

highest double crit rolls ive gotten in the game

[spare falcon]

It still takes so many attempts to get him on the right spot

[night mantle]

what about you guys?

[cobalt apex]

[knotty fiber]

surely

[knotty fiber]

don't even understand what this is

[cobalt apex]

hey it went... alright

got a liber% and 2 hp

[knotty fiber]

man

[cobalt apex]

ok so

after 30 minutes of echoing

[night mantle]

days till I reach the respected ul

[cobalt apex]

i went from 1.1k tuners

to 150 tuners

[knotty fiber]

so me on the first day of 1.1

[cobalt apex]

i got 4 copable pieces at least

[small bronze]

what weekly is changli

there wont be a new one right

do we know the mats

[cobalt apex]

@small bronze

[small bronze]

thanks

[lament thorn]

is this 1.1 story?

[wheat moon]

Yuh

[knotty fiber]

2.2m is fake

[blissful tulip]

The rest is accurate at least

[knotty fiber]

Char + sig

[robust axle]

Wuthering Waves

[neat robin]

What site is this?

[knotty fiber]

https://wutheringwaves.gg/planner/?

[knotty fiber]

@cobalt apex I think

It's been 2 weeks since I last got a gold drop

not even double purple

it's all min run

[neat robin]

Ive had gold drop once during this event. Rates suck

[edgy cobalt]

got my 2 golds 4 purples and then never again

[neat robin]

The only good thing so far is I got hsi and jiyan blades up to lv80

Ig I should get string 80 now

[burnt shoal]

im at 66 pity on weapon banner but still no weapon

me running out of sources of primogem

[rotund drum]

buy a few welkins

[limber imp]

We need a wuwa tc area

It’s wayyy to complicated and intricate to fit into this one channel

Like we need a jinhsi and changli tc

An Echo tc

A standard characters tc

A weapon tc

[knotty fiber]

Multiple channels?

I don't think WuWa is important enough here to have that luxury lmao

Not even ZZZ

[rotund drum]

ZZZ has its own section below

that said what are you going to theorycraft in wuwa lol

hey guys what i had more crit

i could make my number bigger

but what if you had even more crit

then it'd be even bigger

[cobalt apex]

i mean this is what i got from 65 runs

4 golds total

[cobalt apex]

leifa made zzz lounge because tc doesnt have perm to do anything in the zzz section

[dense elbow]

youre asking a lot from a hoyo server, specifically a genshin server

i made this and zzz lounge as side channels for people interested in tc to collaborate on things but im aware its not optimal

but i dont have the time to start up a ZZZ leaks TC discord

nor am the type of person to run a discord fully like that

[cobalt apex]

farming these rings manually will be hell

[velvet junco]

Does anyone know if WuWa has controller support on mobile?

[knotty fiber]

indeed

[cobalt apex]

oh yea also do u think that atk% 3 cost will be better than fusion% on changli

since ill also get sig

[knotty fiber]

Yeah, but not considerably

[rotund drum]

how much fusion% does changli get

jinhsi can get like +300% and atk still only barely breaks even

[cobalt apex]

it changes a lot during the rotation

so

[rotund drum]

im just saying that because the breakpoint for atk to pass damage for jinhsi is like 200%

40% from set bonus, 16% from jue call, lets say 30-40% from skill damage substat, 60% from sig

thats already 150% or so

s1 adds 80% and that's where atk starts to catch up

base atk in wuwa is really low compared to ZZZ so if you were looking at atk mainstats in ZZZ that's why

some chars in ZZZ get up to over 1500 base atk even with a 4* weapon

in this game you're lucky to get 1000 even with a sig

[knotty fiber]

for my Changli's setup, she has 200%+ dmg bonus with 2ele I think

at 3147 atk and 200% dmg bonus, it's the equilibrium

she has 25% atk after getting the buff from ult

and that's probably it

currently she's at slightly above 2k atk due to me not having a lot of atk rolls

[cobalt apex]

thats a lot

[knotty fiber]

so I'm guessing at 90 90 mine has 2200 atk ish

[rotund drum]

i think 140 before 2ele should be around right for the breakeven point

but if you're at breakeven might as well stick with dmg

[knotty fiber]

@cobalt apex

guess

[cobalt apex]

why ru getting baited by the first 2 stats

definitely going to roll cd

[knotty fiber]

I changed my mind

the crit rate is quite low to be worth gambling

as well as atk and ER

the piece overall isn't worth it

[cobalt apex]

is er even useful on changli tho

[knotty fiber]

uh

[cobalt apex]

i dont think even 150 er is enough for ult every rot

[knotty fiber]

on a certain level

[cobalt apex]

[knotty fiber]

nah I'm not at that level yet

[cobalt apex]

one day we'll be gambling for 42 cv pieces

[knotty fiber]

this ends here

atk ER crate
and got slapped by 6.9%

[cobalt apex]

cd will be 21

[knotty fiber]

That's some massive copium right therr

now this is real shit @cobalt apex

I kinda guessed this would have happened

[cobalt apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/972420698654003210.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=diesofcringe

[weary acorn]

Do u guys know if the name card option exist for wuwa?

[weary acorn]

Okok

[sterile swallow]

Does anyone know if there are name cards tied to our characters?

[knotty fiber]

idt there's any

[sterile swallow]

I thought we would get something for getting them to intimacy rank 5

[cobalt apex]

i wish

[edgy cobalt]

not getting namecards after reaching max intimacy rank

genshin could never

[weary acorn]

When are they gonna copy the wish from level breakpoints

[cobalt apex]

we're actually so deprived of standard wish lmao

[rotund drum]

time to get your standards in ZZZ lol

they give out a lot

[night mantle]

112 standard pulls in 2 months

[rotund drum]

most of those were giveaways or leveling stuff

it slows to 5 from bp and 7 from starlight shop after that

[night mantle]

also 58 from beginner banner - 170 standard pulls

[night mantle]

isn't that same for other games as well?

also if you have real bad luck in 50-50 then you won't need them in a year

[rotund drum]

midhoyo games give 3 per new char

star fail also gives 1 per week from clearing simulated universe (which takes like 5 minutes)

also 1 weekly of a currency which you can trade 2 of for a standard fate

so 1.5 per week although you usually want to save that currency for the other stuff in the shop

[night mantle]

this is me in genshin after 4 months with 4-5 regions

[rotund drum]

ZZZ has the 3 per char, 5 per month in shop and 1 per week from simuni plus there's a monthly simuni shop that gives 5 per

[cobalt apex]

taking genshin as the standard is 💀

also 140 is too low

[rotund drum]

so assuming you pull 2 new chars per update thats 6 + 6 + 7.5 + 7.5 roughly

[cobalt apex]

u prob havent gotten all the pulls

[rotund drum]

another 7.5 actually from monthly shop

[night mantle]

yeah haven't completed lvl20 of the region submission stuff and haven't maxed the teleport waypoint lvl in 3 regiions

[rotund drum]

genshit also comparatively starves you for standard fates as well

hsr/zzz are much better about it

[cobalt apex]

zzz has like 140 pulls in 1.0 alone

[rotund drum]

surprised they havent worked the standard fates back into genshit tbh

[night mantle]

thing to note is 170 is from 2 regions in wuwa...if we consider that we don't get anymore in 1.2

[cobalt apex]

without counting ascending pulls

if we count ascending its like 160

[rotund drum]

im probably about ready to drop genshit since it seems like mhy would rather just make a new game rather than fix any of the problems with their own games

3 mobage is enough

[night mantle]

ngl thats a lot...but the point is wuwa give a decent amount of standard pulls

[rotund drum]

it gave a lot

past tense

we're probably down to one standard 5* every year now

fortunately you can pick the weapon you want at least

so it'll stop mattering once we get all of them

[edgy cobalt]

W mans if you do

[rotund drum]

im waiting to see if emilie saves it

[night mantle]

already bored of genshin's fighting system...and now wuwa made me addicted to air dash, infinite sprint, inferno rider, grapple hook...coz of this now I can't even explore in genshin 😦

[ashen geyser]

What's the hard pity for the weapon banner again

70?

[cobalt apex]

80

[ashen geyser]

I'm cooked

When does soft pity start

[lament shuttle]

65

[ashen geyser]

Okay I'm not that cooked

[weak arch]

oh.. theres wuwa lounge now

[iron wadi]

theres a wuwa lounge now

[kind turtle]

always has been

[night mantle]

chixia 1.1 compilation https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1e2z57p/just_chixia_being_a_cutie_for_3_minutes/

[ashen geyser]

That's sick

[neat robin]

Ooh

[clear stump]

Wonder how buff will work then

Can you outro triple taoqi to have triple res skill buff for triple jinhsi?

[sterile swallow]

It would probably only affect your characters

I like the idea. Although there's not much use for co-op right now unless you want to farm more echoes from other people

[edgy cobalt]

can’t wait for 3 of us to spam quick swaps and break a boss

[drowsy bridge]

Camiliya confirmed 1.3 ?

[winged belfry]

Nothing is confirmed for 1.3

[drowsy bridge]

I mean leak wise is it trusted

[knotty fiber]

Nope

No idea if that's the pre-release ver of Tsubaki or current ver of Tsubaki

That's just audio file

And not even the leaker knows which one that is

[ornate basalt]

'Leaks' and 'Confirmed' are very different things

[knotty fiber]

Even if you have someone in beta and you ask "x character strongest confirmed?"

No one can answer it for sure cuz things can go south quickly

Not official release = not confirmed

[knotty fiber]

I fell for it @cobalt apex

[ashen geyser]

Is that for changli

[night mantle]

name pronunciation by mortefi

[knotty fiber]

yes

[ashen geyser]

Ye cause no way you're falling for a reso skill bonus if it's for encore

[knotty fiber]

wait

it lagged

big bait

and I'm gonna send

[ashen geyser]

Send it or balls

[knotty fiber]

fuck me

[ashen geyser]

It's gonna be 10% crate for the last tune right

RIGHT

[knotty fiber]

nah

not fucking with this

+25 costs too much xp

not worth the gamble

[ashen geyser]

Yeah I was joking

[knotty fiber]

only 2 usable rolls

no matter how high it is

it's a brick

[ashen geyser]

I'm guilty on believing on the 5th tune tho

[knotty fiber]

I would if I had spare exp

[ashen geyser]

Never again

[knotty fiber]

unfortunately I don't

and I'm not planning on farming echoes atm

there might be some shit going on in 1.2 and 1.3

about getting tuners or xp or both from discarding echoes

[ashen geyser]

Any leaks that mention it?

[knotty fiber]

yes

[vapid river]

[weary acorn]

Mid recycle it

[night mantle]

https://x.com/Narushioww/status/1812716119133983076

mephis water fixed 🙂

[night mantle]

[sweet coral]

Didn’t know we have a WuWa channel

Juicy nukes

[clear stump]

It's decent

[sweet coral]

I would go Crit DMG if I didn't want to make sure Jinhsi crits most of the time

[clear stump]

This is with her sig weapon?

[ornate basalt]

I would assume it's without

Which is why they have to go CR on Jue

[sweet coral]

Yeah

[sweet coral]

Nah

My Crit rate rolls aren’t high enough

[clear stump]

Damn kinda low rolled

[sweet coral]

To consistently Crit

[clear stump]

[ornate basalt]

Oof.

Mine aren't amazing either, but all of them have double crit

[neat robin]

I guess I should look at a cdmg jue refarming jue + both 1 costs for double crit though

[sweet coral]

How are you lv50 already though

[cobalt apex]

most people here are already 50+

u should get 50+ by just do daily/resin from day 1

[sweet coral]

Damn

I skipped most of my dailies from my break during Yinlin’s banner

[cobalt apex]

yoo x4 drops

🔥

[neat robin]

I think my cr jue is double crit & its 21 cdmg though

I want to keep 75+ cr on her for her nukes

Did they fix all the phantoms?
Only feilian is mentioned in the notes

[ornate basalt]

I stopped playing from the start of Yinlin banner until like 8 days ago

I only need like another 2 weeks to get to 50 according the exp calculator by just spending waves + dailies

So it makes sense that peeps here are hitting 50

[lament shuttle]

I’m 55

[ornate basalt]

Is this with refreshes?

[cobalt apex]

shouldnt be

im also 55

[ornate basalt]

Man

[cobalt apex]

should be 56 if i wasnt lazy and actually did 1.1 content

[ornate basalt]

I missed out on 10 levels by taking a break for 20~ days

That ties in I guess

[ornate basalt]

My exploration is mostly maxed out I think?

Mt Firmament is definitely maxed out

The rest are at least 80%

[cobalt apex]

i wanted to do mr firmament but too lazy

prob going to have to do that before changli comes

[clear stump]

Burned out from genshin exploration

I feel you, i just got lazy to 100% maps

[cobalt apex]

i kinda did

i was expecting to 100% the 1.0 wuwa map in 2 days

but i finished it in 5 days instead

[clear stump]

The horror needing to track it all back using interactive map

[rotund drum]

i actually think dps soukaku with lycaon support is probably at least on par with the standard 5* attackers

i dont have accurate framecounts or rotations but i just tallied up the expected damage on her NA combo and its pretty decent

and doesnt feel significantly slower than nekomata/soldier's

[vapid river]

[rotund drum]

-35% ice res and +45% dmg bonus help with that

[vapid river]

I missed out on levels cuz I rerolled 50+ times

[neat robin]

I’m so broke

Got encores string to 78/80 and now I have 2k credits left

[cobalt apex]

shouldve farmed credits

what were u farming during 2x

[neat robin]

Forgery

Got jinhsi jiyan encore weapons all ascended to 70/80
And completed jinhsi & yinlins stat talent nodes

And leveling the weapons
Both blades at lv.80 now, string at 78

[burnt shoal]

is lycaon meta

even without ellen

[rotund drum]

oh i posted this in the wrong channel lol

i wouldnt say he's meta but if you happen to have c6 soukaku it works pretty well

he'll be pretty good for any ice comp even after qingyi comes out

at least until we start getting hsr levels of buffers

[torn tapir]

I fought Scar then he left, I can skip everything else in the story now right?

[rotund drum]

yeah

i thought scar was supposed to be the leader of the threnodians or something since all the loading screen tooltips talk about how big and bad they are

but i think hes actually just some random guy who can turn into echoes same way as the mc

[neat robin]

Was encore 2 fusion or fusion/atk with string?

Mines just over 1.7k atk with lv80 now on 2 fusion

[hollow gorge]

it's 2 fusion

[weary acorn]

Scar is a fractsidus higher up

Threnodians are the big bad Tacet discords that barely appeared

[neat robin]

Thats what crownless & dreamless are no?

[gilded lance]

oh wait Im also lvl 30 in the standard banner

pity

away

from getting one

5 star

can I get w engines from standard banner?

[rotund drum]

wrong channel but yes

[knotty fiber]

@cobalt apex

[rotund drum]

the standard w-engines are a lot less impactful than in wuwa though

[neat robin]

Its always def last roll

[weary acorn]

No they are more of weaker avatars iirc

[knotty fiber]

Missing 1 ToA rotation

[edgy cobalt]

need static mist, s6 mort or just even a better build on jiyan cuz this is w/ baizhi

[burnt shoal]

how does mort work again i don't see him attacking alot like xq when i play him

[knotty fiber]

1 shot per BA, 2 shots per HA, 0.35s per proc

[ashen geyser]

Jiyan's wet dream

[limber imp]

Y’all

Jinhsi

Or changli

[ashen geyser]

Jinhsi

[limber imp]

U won’t even ask for my characters or smth-

[ashen geyser]

She's gonna get her sub dps in 1.2

[ashen geyser]

You asked

I answered

[limber imp]

Oh yeah I forgot about zhezhi

Hmm

[ashen geyser]

Plus I kinda hate changli so I'm biased

[knotty fiber]

Would Zz be vastly different from Yinlin?

Question risen cuz idk how quickly Zz can charge her concerto

And that's the only thing that really matters when it comes to Jinhsi comp

[ashen geyser]

No leaks about that yet

[knotty fiber]

I'm trying to get thru her kit

Eng ver is so fucking dumb I need to look at Chinese

[neat robin]

Yinlins problem isnt giving hsi concerto, its that yinlin spends a lot of time on field to charge her own concerto to apply the off field dmg I think

Yuanwu just drops pillar, 1 basic, bell, dips out

[knotty fiber]

I'm going thru Orie's kit

Very needy on intro it seems

Intro gives her Afflatus

And she needs it to cast the skills that are literally her everything (almost)

[knotty fiber]

Sorry my habit
That's Zhezhi lmao

[knotty fiber]

Oh-

Yaoi's kit stat has been up since forever in Chinese

I kept checking in Eng lmao

[cobalt apex]

that was a huge bait

[rotund drum]

shes cryo so she can combo with yuanwu and her outro buffs skill damage

not sure about field time

probably bad

[small bronze]

what was the site for exp planner etc

i wanted to check how much exp is 0-90

for changli

[hollow gorge]

wait, did we have the codes from the previous livestream?

[wintry heath]

there was no livestream for 1.1

person who made that basically just said theyre coping that we will get 1.2 stream since 1.1 was released earlier than og schedule

[knotty fiber]

@cobalt apex my last gold drop was UL55

my UL now:

[cobalt apex]

[opaque flume]

its ok bro i watched my friend playing genshin and remembered that those talent domains give 4 blue 4 green per with a condensed resin usually

😭

2 blue 2 green is devious bro

[opaque flume]

67 is kinda ass ngl, need more free pulls

[knotty fiber]

thing is I could still get purple quite often in Genshit

I saw friends getting 1 gold 2 purple and 1 gold 1 purple too often

that I'm starting to question my RNG

lol

[opaque flume]

i mean i havent gotten a lot of golds either but its not that bad ngl

you get plenty of purples

and its only a 3 to 1 conversion

[knotty fiber]

lol what's your point

"not getting gold isn't that much different from getting gold so put up with it" is what you're trying to say?

[opaque flume]

i mean 4 purples is the same as 1 gold 1 purple

so

[knotty fiber]

do you know

that's x2?

[opaque flume]

ya

but

[knotty fiber]

but what?

??

[opaque flume]

2x is there for a reason

you got extra mats

[knotty fiber]

for a reason?

[opaque flume]

yippee

[knotty fiber]

???????????

what are you trying to prove here

[opaque flume]

idk i dont think in the long run like

5 purple materials

that you lose to rng

is gonna be a large problem

[knotty fiber]

do I look like I care about the long run bullshit

look

[opaque flume]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-insane-gif-21702784

ok vro

[knotty fiber]

very nice of you to see someone who complains about their RNG and you go "it's not that bad in the long run"

[opaque flume]

ya

maybe you will soon get super lucky

[weary acorn]

Ur rng is just bad

[edgy cobalt]

I would take 4 purples in a double drop ngl, 3-4 times in a row I only got 2 purples

but then again I had my double yellow quad purple moment so whatever

[knotty fiber]

the whole event

I got it like twice, out of 21 runs

and ofc, no gold drop cuz I haven't seen one for over 2 weeks

[neat robin]

Ive had gold drop once this event and ive farmed every double in it so far

[ashen geyser]

Got like 3 gold drops this event

[edgy cobalt]

half of my runs were credits

this game blows I got a 10.5% crit rate
no cd after my remaining tunes

on jue

[rotund drum]

maybe the new update will save genshit

new zone

talking to some hamster statue

put it on autoplay

come back 30 minutes later

still talking to the hamster statue

[knotty fiber]

I heard Changli's E is now 125 @cobalt apex

So ER is gonna be her req stat it seems

[cobalt apex]

it would be so funny if the standard 5* er is enough for the er breakpoint lmao

[winged belfry]

It's between 150 and 170

ER reqs that is

So yeah EoG may be really good on her in some rotations

[knotty fiber]

idk if Hakush fucked up or the game rolled it back

but

Zhezhi's v2 went from 20% glac 25% skill deepen to 44% skill deepen, then got changed back to 20% glac 25% skill

[rotund drum]

its over for zzsimps

[ebon jasper]

go back to 44% skill ples

jinhsi can cook more

[clear stump]

44% the dream

[sterile swallow]

Pls just remove the glac dmg bonus and increase skill deepen to 44%

[knotty fiber]

I think I didn't mention it here but

Changli ult E requirement: 150 -> 125
Changli sig: after reaching max stack, the effect will be cleared after 10s -> 12s

[edgy cobalt]

maybe I give up building s2 sanhua and gamble changli

[knotty fiber]

It's weird

Because the 44% is the only change I could find

If it's reverted, I think there's 0 change to the new chars and weapons

[weary acorn]

Wasn't the 44% an en issue

Cuz I remember those buffs being glacio and skill on CN during the first week

[uneven flame]

Same cause I checked it first day.

[knotty fiber]

Read it again

It was 20% glac 25% skill -> 44% skill -> 20% glac 25% skill
Never did I say it was 44% initially

And no
I always check CN

Eng one is dumb shit

[ashen geyser]

The hp and low crdamage roll kinda sucked

But this is still my best jué

And that's saying something

[clear stump]

High crit is nice

[ashen geyser]

That's a max roll on reso skill too I think

[clear stump]

I have a pretty similar jue as well with the same doodoo cdmg

[blissful tulip]

https://vxtwitter.com/WutheringMedia/status/1813761611859165526

[blissful tulip]

That is quite low

[coral crescent]

They realized they were too generous

[clear stump]

We only feel we had a lot because of all the free pulls that we get due to stuttering waves. Honeymoon period is over.

[coral crescent]

Stuttering waves lmao

A mood tho. Shit ran like ass on my pc

[weary acorn]

Damn that jiggle is out of control

[rotund drum]

stuttering waves is good

i might steal that one

[robust axle]

NOO I NEED WUWA TO SUCCEED

STOP FLOPPING THIS HARD

[opaque flume]

its not i dont think

[opaque flume]

free 5* in 1.2 vro

😭

67 pulls is plenty

[coral crescent]

If you're fine with 67 pulls more power to you.

As for the free 5 star, I hate the design so it doesn't even matter lmao

[wheat moon]

Same

I like zhezhi very much so I'm fine w the pulls

They cooked with that one

[clear stump]

This is cute

Instead of fixing the values of the camera to finally fix camera zoom in during certain animations, they instead increase the max/min limit of it so when the camera zooms in it wouldn't be that obnoxious

I guess it kinda work

[small bronze]

what is changli main echo

gonna be

[burnt brook]

what date changli release?

[small bronze]

i think its on monday

[burnt brook]

ty

[cobalt apex]

@knotty fiber surely this isnt a bait right

[sweet coral]

Ngl it’s kinda fun to dodge or risk dying with low HP Danjin

Even though she ends up dying like

70% of the time

[ashen geyser]

Danjin mains are literally forced to no hit bosses

[knotty fiber]

bet

[rotund drum]

literally rigged

i dont think im getting 27/30 until another good dps who isnt jinhsi comes out

that 10/12 is me getting 1 star with jiyan lol

[edgy cobalt]

27* possible if you leave middle tower for last

jfc has it always been 48.6% crit rate on changli’s weapon

definitely a mistranslation

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxoRE4eBZtcnvMYTDjIMy08_scx2uFBvw1?si=1cdof-aqkxUpKuxj

[cobalt apex]

definitely

its 48.6 cd

[edgy cobalt]

yep thats what I remember

all good, more apologems on our way !!

[cobalt apex]

i hecking love spreading misinformation 🔥

[vapid river]

the one on top has 2.3% more heavy atk

and 64 more atk

which one should i keep?

[edgy cobalt]

bottom

10% more cr is pog

[vapid river]

kinda what i'm thinking

he'll probably be over 2k atk at 90 anyway

which is what we want afaik

[limber imp]

So guys ok I’m gonna need a lot of help rn ok so idk who to choose between changli and jinhsi I can get either one and their signature
For changli: I have her echos ready and for 5 stars I’ve got jianxin and verina on her team

For jinhsi: I have a good jue echo and verina

[edgy cobalt]

I'm on the jinhsi camp

get her and her sig, you'll have a really good shot at 30*

[clear stump]

Jinhsi easily. The dmg she does at just s0r1 is stupid af. Think of her like JL in hsr. She's gonna carry your f2p ass for a long time just like JL.

[small bronze]

also does anybody know how many boss mats is from 80-90

[weary acorn]

What's 70-80? 12?

Should be 20

[weary acorn]

For 80-90

[limber imp]

Ok does changli have any pros other than being future proof

Like how good is her damage

[weary acorn]

ngl her dmg is decent all her pros is on her getting more shit from the future that woudl work well with her

not exactly like buffer

her dmg is like encore level iirc (not sure) or atleast stronger/weaker depending on execution

[clear stump]

Big bouncy booba

[limber imp]

Damn is she fr bad?

[weary acorn]

no

decent enough

[rotund drum]

bad

well relative to jinhsi

shes like 1.0 starter tier

shes probably about on par with jiyan who was "top" tier for all of a month

if that means anything

[ashen geyser]

Is dps changli actually the best use for the char

[rotund drum]

i mean she has a deepen outro i guess?

you could use to buff calcharo or encore i guess

[ashen geyser]

Encore doesn't even use the lib deepen

[rotund drum]

i think you can generally find a better use for the slot than just a swap deepen though

[ashen geyser]

Just use sanhua

[rotund drum]

those are always kinda sus cause they dont last very long and only until swap

[ashen geyser]

Better yet just skip changli altogether and pull for zhezhi

[rotund drum]

its ok for chars like zhezi or mortefi who you'd be using anyway

its like a free bonus

but i wouldnt take it just for that

when verina exists for a universal long-duration deepen that affects the entire party and doesnt go away on swap

[ashen geyser]

They designed changli's kit very badly

[rotund drum]

its more that they crept with jinhsi really hard

so now no one cares about anyone weaker than her

although a char who can clear the side towers in toa would be nice

center tower literally easier thna side towers because of jinhsi lol

[winged belfry]

probably weaker than Jinhsi, which is mostly caused by the fact that we don't have as good characters that could work well with Changli, the same way that Jinhsi has

[limber imp]

Oh alr but changli is kinda like future proof and probs gonna be the standard best sub Dps for fusion Dps like scar probs

[winged belfry]

No idea

Right now her best teammate is probably encore

And Encore + Changli is noticeably weaker than Jinhsi + Zhezhi or Xiangli Yao + Yinlin

[limber imp]

Hmmm I’ll think about it more

Cause I prefer changlis aesthetic and theme

But I prefer jinhis numbers

[winged belfry]

So do I

Changli has great animations

and really fluid moveset

[limber imp]

Exactly

And I mean if scar is a fusion character

Or even genshu Lin

They’d probs be Dps

[winged belfry]

I don't think either is guaranateed to work well with Changli just because they could be Fusion

[limber imp]

True

[rotund drum]

jinhsi is just creep

she doesnt even have a char who amplifies her damage type

and 2/3 CAspammers are the same element as each other and the third is the same element as her

[rotund drum]

the trial midcharo you get from the event seems ok actually

i got almost as much with him as with my super whaled out jinhsi

and by whaled out i mean she has sig lol

[sweet coral]

Is WuWa crashing for anyone???

YO WUWA STOP CRASHING DAMN IT

[neat robin]

My game is fine

[wheat moon]

What's weap banner soft pity? Is it the same as genshin?

[edgy cobalt]

around 65 I'm sure

this simulacra event better rig its points idk how 24k is possible unless its mistranslation stuff like in that 1.0 event

[rotund drum]

soft pity is 66 for both char and weapon banner i think

its probably 24k total points

including replays

thats how it was for the last one too

[edgy cobalt]

I assumed it was just a typo, otherwise I'd see everyone flexing "hey I got 24k first day ez"

if anything this is a better flex

no s2 verina no jiyan sig

[rotund drum]

i really need to build up jiyan since im not planning to build any other dps for a while

he just feels so shit though

maybe ill build the lion fuckboy instead

for the memes

[edgy cobalt]

bigiftrue

honestly he gets carried by his sig and having s6 mortefi really helped against aix cuz I couldn't do it at s5 back then
also brought his HAs and liberation lvls to lvl8 so my ult ticks for 5ks when I run some crazy quick swap rotation

[rotund drum]

hopefully genos saves electro

[edgy cobalt]

hope so too

but then I gotta go for the 5 star standard gauntlets

[rotund drum]

he looks kinda shit just from his mvs but i guess they're okay by 1.0 standards

[edgy cobalt]

if he beats calcharo then

good enough

[rotund drum]

i mean thats not hard lol

i have enough meme chars to mess around with in overworld

i need someone who can actually clear f4 in toa

i guess it doesnt really matter that much since its only 60 primogems

[edgy cobalt]

you don't have encore right

she was a godsend for my heron clear

[wheat moon]

Damn

Guess I got unlucky

Wtv I got it on 71

[edgy cobalt]

pretty normal

[rotund drum]

my midcore doesnt seem that good tbh

probs need 5* weapon

i feel like jiyan with jinhsi sig should at least be better than her

but i guess it really needs to be his own sig

[edgy cobalt]

yeah she needs stringmaster 😹

encore that is

fraudhsi I missed like 2/5 nuke crits

[rotund drum]

mine has 95% crit

i got grabbed at the end trying to mash harder and almost missed the 3m mark too

[sweet coral]

Zhezhi looks like she has potential for Jinhsi

[sweet coral]

Cosmic Ripples’ not her BiS?

[edgy cobalt]

naur

[sweet coral]

I’m surprised

Anyways

Jinhsi Zhezhi Verina?

[edgy cobalt]

how are you surprised a weapon with 36% crit rate and 12% dmg bonus is better than ripples

and 24% atk if you use skill twice ig

but yeah zhezhi exists for jinhsi pretty much

idk if I should pull her cuz I'm happy with using yinlin

[sweet coral]

What would be the damage difference if you decide to forego Verina for- Idk, someone like Taoqi

Verina literally juggles between my Jinhsi and Havoc Rover

[edgy cobalt]

you'll probably take minimum 15 seconds more on avg ig

verina is too broken

[sweet coral]

(Assuming Taoqi is on Turtle and Rejuvenating Glow)

[sweet coral]

Damn

😭

Hopefully we get a second Verina

[edgy cobalt]

I'm wishing for that too

[sweet coral]

I mean the closest we have to a second Verina is literally Baizhi

And girl’s just a 16% DMG bonus(?) for like 6s times 3

[edgy cobalt]

ok now I can call the game mid

not sure if enemy lineup will change next reset for changli, think it does but we'll see

[rough brook]

wooooooo jinshi wep but no jinshi life is great‼️‼️

[rotund drum]

rigged rates

[rough brook]

she’s gone in one day I have no motivation left to keep exploring

I was so looking forward to her

this is why you should never get your hopes up in a 50/50 💔

[rotund drum]

why did you pull the sig before the char

[rough brook]

I used the random free weapon banner 10 pull they gave us

and got it

[rotund drum]

consider it a freebie then i guess

[knotty fiber]

skull

[rotund drum]

the ar scaling in this game is pretty wild

they probably figured it would be fine since you can farm echoes anytime

imagine if you had to wait 2 months to farm disks in zzz

[edgy cobalt]

yeah after you reach UL60 it takes 2 months and a bit to reach UL70 lol

but it’d be fine anyways since UL60 is max drops for like almost to all farmable content

[rotund drum]

wait till they lock db22 to it

[edgy cobalt]

if a db22 exists

it better increases ur base chance drop

otherwise it’ll prolly exist for random lil rewards

[rotund drum]

i think echo farming mostly just needs to not force you to check for echo drops every single kill

if it autopickuped like every other mat in the game it'd be a lot more chill

there's a few high density zones that would be fun to just blitz through and nuke everything in sight

[edgy cobalt]

we’ll see that feature in db25 I bet

[edgy cobalt]

still haven't gotten crit subs on heron since day1

[cobalt apex]

man...

great

[ashen geyser]

How do you even run out of tuners

[cobalt apex]

how do u not run out of tuners

[ashen geyser]

I have like 1.5k

[cobalt apex]

do u level every echo to +25

[ashen geyser]

No only up to 20

If I don't get double crit I don't level it to 25

[cobalt apex]

if i dont get crit in the first 3 subs its a throw

[ashen geyser]

Saves me a lot of exp

[cobalt apex]

or no good sub in the first 2

[ashen geyser]

That too ig

[cobalt apex]

so u always end up spending 50 tuners for 1 echo

that u will level up to +20

then it become shit

so u waste 80 tuners for nothing

and move on

[ashen geyser]

[cobalt apex]

so u'll always be missing tuners

instead of xp

unless u level super coped pieces but thats like

hell nah

[edgy cobalt]

I currently have 900 tuners but no echo exp

[cobalt apex]

i also have 50 +5 echoes and like 20 +20 echoes

that are just there

[cobalt apex]

i mean usually do u level echoes past +10 if it got only flat atk and a useless stat

[ashen geyser]

If they're trash echoes then just use them to level up

Tf they doing sitting there

[edgy cobalt]

usually stop at +10 or even cope for a +15

[ashen geyser]

How close am I to hard pity bro

I know it's so close

I NEED JINHSI SIG

[edgy cobalt]

9 pulls away

[ashen geyser]

fuck

I won't make it

Unless it's early

[edgy cobalt]

you should be getting sig in a pull or two

[ashen geyser]

[edgy cobalt]

just do holograms and toa or exploration, anything

[cobalt apex]

yea