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ashen geyser
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And just get her S1

neat robin
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3/5 of my dps are all broadblades…
Took the free 5* sword for hrover instead and got jiyan/jinhsi sigs

ashen geyser
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But getting a crit rate broadblade would be nice too

neat robin
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Still thinking of putting cal on the tunes set with mech
Not sure I feel like making a new echo set but thats 3 pieces that could go on any dps & just swap the dmg%

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Hes benched until I either farm better electro sets or switch to tunes

knotty fiber
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where my Verina

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fuck lingyang

rotund drum
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finally got danjin

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s2 lingyang and s1 jinhsi lol

ashen geyser
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Unlucky

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If they buffed his dmg a little bit and gave him super armor in the liondancing form he could've been good

rotund drum
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he does get superarmor at s1 i think

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but hes just bad and looks dumb

ashen geyser
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His animations are very clean

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What could've been a great design got ruined by terrible balancing

ashen geyser
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Drake victim buff

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Anyways

rotund drum
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being a fuccboi doesnt help lingyang any

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no one has a problem with getting 5* nekomata or soldier 12 in zzz

ashen geyser
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I like encore her rotations are braindead

rotund drum
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even though they're also technically B tier

ashen geyser
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Isn't zzz just upgraded HI3

rotund drum
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yeah

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it has dialogue skip though

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so its already better than genshit

ashen geyser
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Is it better than pgr

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They're the same genre right

ashen geyser
hollow gorge
ashen geyser
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Wuwa is also a dps check but atleast you actually have to dodge to not get oneshot

cobalt apex
ashen geyser
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Yeah I play the game

cobalt apex
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even the lvl 100 one doesnt one shot

ashen geyser
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It's an exaggeration

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Chill

cobalt apex
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ur original comment doesnt even sound like an exaggaration...

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smh

ashen geyser
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That's your problem if it doesn't sound like an exaggeration to you

cobalt apex
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if that comment sound like an exaggeration everything is exaggarated E_pepelol

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kushi wrong lounge

hollow gorge
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lmao

quasi sable
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forgor this

ashen geyser
cobalt apex
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me when oneshot shouldnt be taken as one shot

ashen geyser
edgy cobalt
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I may have s2 verina now but there’s no way in hell I can get 27 stars before reset because my builds are so bricked

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gonna have to chill with 24/30 like practically everyone else kneelgeta

rotund drum
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we're getting 10 free weapon fates tomorrow so if that gets you jinhsi sig you can probably do 3 stars on first floor of center tower

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then you just need to have one other team that can do 3 stars on the 4th floor of one of the side towers

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that should get you 27

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i cant beat the super mourning aix and im still stuck with an ER 4* on jinhsi so im coping at 24

knotty fiber
sterile swallow
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Holograms 1 shot but that's your fault for getting hit. Good thing they're a one and done deal

knotty fiber
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I mean "your fault for getting hit" is literally any content

sterile swallow
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Actually you probably will get hit regardless until you're so familiar with the attack patterns, then you become a dodge god

knotty fiber
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For ToA tho

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Normal stuffs can't OHKO you

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Cuz monkee grab and Aix's swirl

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they definitely can kill you from max HP

sterile swallow
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Good thing both attacks are predictable

knotty fiber
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Yeah

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Unless you have turtle on

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Only then you can tank monkee grab

sterile swallow
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Turtle is the Zhongli of WuWa

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Free damage and damage reduction

knotty fiber
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I think it's intentional at this point

wheat moon
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what's that supposed to mean

knotty fiber
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Kuro is known for making typo every fken patch

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no typo = not Kuro

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the name in pic is read as "Lucia"

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the main girl of the game

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and they fucked that up

rotund drum
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hopefully 5* lucia in wuwa soon

hollow gorge
spice finch
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When can we get 1.2 character leak?

rotund drum
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the final boss of this tower is the camera lol

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hopefully they fix the zoom bug before the abyss ends

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i cant beat the super mourning aix because the camera keeps zooming all the way in so i cant see whats its doing in

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i have to adjust my dps rotations so i have time to zoom the camera back out between rotations

neat robin
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That bug E_OMEGARAZOR

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I find its so much worse with encore
Jiyan seems fine

rotund drum
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the strat seems to be use jianxin so you can channel her shield

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which gives you time to zoom out

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figuring out when to start the channel when you cant see the boss is the hard part though

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i've started it during laser twice and died as a result

edgy cobalt
rotund drum
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not enough apparently

edgy cobalt
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tell you what I was 15 seconds off 3 starring mephis so its possible with my shit builds but I need all my nukes to crit

rotund drum
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s2 fuccboi stole all my rolls anyway so my account isnt that good

edgy cobalt
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feelsbadman

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could've been me with s2 veriners (broken)

rotund drum
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s1 jinhsi is the only real thing i have worth using on this acc

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i might simp out her sig when we get the free rolls tomorrow

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it'll put me in soft pity

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idk how much i wanna spend on this game with ZZZ out though

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i havent even paid my rent for the month yet

edgy cobalt
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really glad I'm skipping out on zzz

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its just hi3 for zoomers after all

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but at least it has a story skip so that's a plus

rotund drum
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it seems good so far

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better than wuwa jank at least

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although the combat system is a bit simplistic

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seems really hypercarry focused

edgy cobalt
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wuwa is just a genshit clone at the end of the day

rotund drum
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better than mashing swap for cds though i guess

edgy cobalt
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and my cope game because I quit genshit long time ago

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I see zzzsimps coping over their game being like 50gb but when I saw the gameplay I kinda understand why

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they go ham with every little detail

edgy cobalt
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that's kinda nuts

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@neat robin ik this is super duper late but hopefully it doesn't hurt inquiring about the new phantoms you were asking about week or two ago, this is where I found my phantom

neat robin
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Yeah ive found the other spot down by the red tree

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Thank you though

edgy cobalt
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np

neat robin
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Guaranteed drops when phantoms at least

edgy cobalt
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actually you know what this is not even the spot I got it from

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I also got it from the tree LOL

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more you know anyways

neat robin
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The phantom ice cube is inside the dragons mouth

edgy cobalt
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thanks, was slacking in exploration cuz I got lazy with the game

neat robin
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He blue

edgy cobalt
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bluey

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I never tried crownless hologram either too lol

rotund drum
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still ok though

edgy cobalt
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maybe you can opt in for the funnyxd 44111 build with s1

rotund drum
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need sig for that i think

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otherwise the flat atk loss hurts too much

edgy cobalt
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usual consensus is sig letting you run % and atk 3costs

rotund drum
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i think if you have sig and s2 you go double atk mainstat instead

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honestly she probably kills fast enough that it doesnt matter that much atm

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if i want 30 stars i need to get my other teams high enough that i can kill the mourning aix without being able to see it

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the command grab does too much

knotty fiber
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Because of the amount of skill dmg bonus she has

edgy cobalt
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so its not 80% but 80%

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?

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unless you meant to reply to my "that's kinda nuts" message

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which would've made a lot of sense and there's no need to continue the convo lmao

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because her stacks give her nuke dmg anyways so an extra 80% is the equivalent of having a couple more stacks

knotty fiber
edgy cobalt
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all g

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when I first saw jx kit I was wondering how she deals nuke dmg on skill if the multipler looks low, then I saw how the stacking work and I was like "oh" lol

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if I can get her weapon then I'm chilling otherwise I'll cope with the lustrous razor blade sharing between her and jiyan

knotty fiber
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She was massively buffed during meta

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It's basically taking some of the E6 power to base

edgy cobalt
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glad I pulled her

neat robin
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Idk if I want her s1 🤔

candid plume
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As much as it is great that we are all pogging over Jinhsi rn, if Wuwa ever reaches the Genshin point, where we're killing shit in 20 seconds

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Jinhsi stonks will go down

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But ofc at that point, it hardly matters either way who ur playing cuz shit would die 10s later, u still getting the 3 stars on the floor

knotty fiber
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hard to get 1 min with the current setup Copium

neat robin
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I’m clearly doing something wrong with my builds or rot idk

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I havent even tried middle tower, cant even do both lv90 bosses

rotund drum
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since aix is 40% res to jinhsi

neat robin
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I wasnt using jinshi vs aix, imagine that

rotund drum
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yeah i gave up on it

edgy cobalt
burnt shoal
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did u guys spend starglitter on wishes

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or will buy c1 char

rotund drum
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the c1 is way better value than wishes

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its like 50 wishes worth of glitter iirc

burnt shoal
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ohhh

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i only have 2 weeks to get jinshi weapon

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im thinking if i should just spend starglitter to get weapon

rotund drum
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how close to pity are you

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we're getting 10 free fates tomorrow

burnt shoal
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30 pity on weapon banner

rotund drum
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yeah you probs wont make it

burnt shoal
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is there really no more event after the login pulls

rotund drum
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do you have standard gs or r5 helios

burnt shoal
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rip no more primos

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no

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i got discord while pulling

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the fav claymore of wuwa

rotund drum
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yeah i have a bunch of those lol

burnt shoal
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is it worth levelling

hasty karma
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Damm lost the 50/50 no dragon girl for me

rotund drum
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not if you're gonna get the sig

hasty karma
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Time to not pull anymore raaaah

rotund drum
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no one really needs the ER except maybe jiyan but jiyan would still rather have jinhsi's sig

night mantle
neat robin
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^ I used the corals to get sigs

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Have jiyans yinlins and jinhsis so it worked out

forest dome
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coped hard since seeing that crate first roll

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still no crate on 2 echoes...

night mantle
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I am out of echo exp with 1k+ tuners

cobalt apex
night mantle
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Event + shop reset gave a lot of them

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plus after 1.1 I got a little more lucky

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I have one question

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Which support do you use instead of verina in TOA?

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as a main buffer with healing set

cobalt apex
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no one

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thats the neat part

night mantle
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so verina on middle tower and no verina in left and right tower?

cobalt apex
night mantle
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idk I am too weak to clear middle 2nd floor E_OMEGARAZOR

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plus I hate that shielding mob who just jumps around A_HuCry3

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my calcharo and yinlin can't group them E_OMEGARAZOR

lilac hare
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Do I just give ywanwu full healing Def echoes + Originite: Type IV weapon? For jinhsi

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Or can I give him moonlit clouds?

ashen geyser
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Is yuanwu better than yinlin as a jinhsi subdps

night mantle
night mantle
ashen geyser
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Ah so it's yinlin

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Thanks

rotund drum
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he does ok damage if you build him for it

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its about half of what yinlin gets but with a much faster rotation

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most people dont have the rsc to build chars for marginal increases though

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so just give him a couple of leveled 1-costs so he doesnt die and throw whatever extra pieces you have on him

ashen geyser
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So just throw RS down and switch?

rotund drum
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yeah

ashen geyser
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Or do I fill up his forte first

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Oh

rotund drum
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you dont really need to use his forte

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just E > bell/heron > swap

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NA > E so he procs originite healing and gives rejuv buff

rotund drum
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s1 jiyan with jinhsig or s0 danjin with s4 commando

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for super aix

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i dont have enough time or resin to build both

lament shuttle
rotund drum
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kinda

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i have the echoes

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i can move jianxin's old aero damage echoes to jiyan too

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i just need to level the traces

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and ascensions

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i know jiyan was mid without his own sig in 1.0 but idk how he stacks up with jinhsig

lament shuttle
rotund drum
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since that also has crit but the passive doesnt benefit him

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maybe i just wont bother

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i was thinking to try to push 27 with them but they would need to be able to 3-star the aix

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i cant even clear it with encore atm

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that one is definitely the hardest fight this rotation

lament shuttle
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My encore + havoc mc team 2 starred it but I didn’t really optimize for it

rotund drum
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i waste a lot of time zooming the camera back out i think lol

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i can probably do it next rotation if they ever fix that bug

lament shuttle
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That’s def annoying

night mantle
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hrover with S4 sanhua or S2 danjin....which one would give higher dps?

lament shuttle
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Idt hrover does BA dmg ? So Danjin

night mantle
night mantle
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incase of outro danjin seems good

lament shuttle
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So you’ll get more value out of Danjin since her buff is way better

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I forget the term but it’s a separate multiplier

night mantle
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ohh okay

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time to build danjin then A_smolhutao

knotty fiber
night mantle
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idk how wuwa sub-reddit mods allow these type of post to exist

winged belfry
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Unlike Genshin and ZZZ subreddit mods

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HSR sub mods don't have any association with Hoyo

rotund drum
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man kusogames either has their shit locked down or no one cares about 1.2 lol

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i just want to know if either of the two new chars are worth simping for or if i should try for more danjin cons

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inb4 s2 jinhsi

dusty crown
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give me one jinhsi in exchange for my s9 danjin

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(whom i don't use T_T)

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(yet, but probably should)

rotund drum
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just be like me and get multiple 5*s for every danjin con

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then your s9 danjin will be worth like s20 jinhsi

dusty crown
winged belfry
rotund drum
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thats probably intentional

winged belfry
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they have less or smaller teams than hoyo so they do shorter dev cycles

neat robin
rotund drum
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the zoom is the biggest problem

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one-shot dodge mechanics but you cant see the boss half the time

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its like the divine dragon dancing lion all over again

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fromsoft had to nerf the fight because game journos couldnt beat it

neat robin
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They fixed camera sensitivity and bugged camera zoom

rotund drum
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did they

neat robin
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I mean yes?

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1.0 camera was slow as fuck to look around

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1.1 its properly fast now, except you get that stupid zoom in when swapping chars

rotund drum
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thats the zoom bug lol

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it zooms all the way in when you swap so you cant see anything

neat robin
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Yes thats what I said…

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They fixed sens but messed up the zoom

rotund drum
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i'd take the sens over the zoom

kind turtle
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you just said they fixed the bugged camera zoom

rotund drum
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at least i can see shit when sens is low

neat robin
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I missed a comma

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They fixed sens, they bugged zoom
Better?

kind turtle
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that is a different sentence but its better

neat robin
kind turtle
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i never had sens problems ngl

neat robin
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I think it was more a mobile issue

kind turtle
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probably

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but i'd also never want to play wuwa on mobile

neat robin
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Like swiping from center (where char is) all the way to the edge of the screen on 100 sens wasnt even a 90* turn
Was awful in fights

rotund drum
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the zoom issue on pc was mostly just that if the game was still loading in the sens was low

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wasnt a big deal in most cases

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just a bit annoying

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now its just constantly in the boss's ass so you cant see shit

winged belfry
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lmao

neat robin
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1.0 mobile had zero zoom issues
Camera distance was locked to whatever it was set in settings
1.1 made it zoom in on char swaps

winged belfry
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if you are complaing about camera here, please don't play any of souls games

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particialy the dragon fights

neat robin
winged belfry
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the camera moves so much that you get motion sickness

neat robin
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Oh idc about that

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But if my zoom is set at 100 I expect it to stay at 100, not zoom in on my own char for no reason

rotund drum
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google up "elden ring camera dancing lion"

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the boss has a move where he stands up and spins around breathing lightning or poison gas

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and you have to dodge through it as the breath passes you

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but when he stands up the camera goes up after him

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and you cant see the ground or where he's breathing

neat robin
rotund drum
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also if he pushes you into the wall the camera clips inside of him and then you literally cant see him anymore

neat robin
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I like how its not even the actual boss thats the issue. Just camera display

rotund drum
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hes already a relatively difficult boss but the camera makes it a lot harder than it needs to be

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they had to nerf it lol

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you basically had to play around the camera

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like if he was going for the breath move you had to be ready to run really far back so the pan up wouldnt fuck you

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but not towards the wall or he might push you into it and you get the second clipping problem

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dark souls of elden rings bosses

winged belfry
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Seneax or whatever his/her name was

rotund drum
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you probably fought him post-nerf

winged belfry
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And Bayle

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that's the other can of worms

rotund drum
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they nerfed him and rellana of the full moon iirc

winged belfry
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rellana is base game

winged belfry
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it's scadutree scaling change

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total buff stays the same, is just more frontloaded

rotund drum
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they copypasted renalla into the dlc and swapped the letters around and called it a new boss

winged belfry
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ok, you are trolling

rotund drum
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yeah its frontloaded to when you fight the bosses lol

blissful tulip
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Is Dif V scar meant to be an HP sponge for whales?

rotund drum
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divine dragon is like the first boss you fight

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renalla is usually the second

winged belfry
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it's not sekiro

rotund drum
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so you'll be fighting him with 2-3 fragment levels usually

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and they like tripled the value of those

winged belfry
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no divine dragon here

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and you clearly have no idea what you are talking about

rotund drum
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so you go from getting like +20% damage bonus or whatever it is to like +100%

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ofc its gonna be a lot easier

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i literally died like 20 times on renalla then the patch dropped

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and i did it in one try

candid plume
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I played Jinhsi Yinlin, ended up with
First rotation:
Verina b3-5 Lib E
Yinlin EE
Verina echo jump b1-3
Jinhsi intro echo E Lib E b1-4
Yinlin plunge echo
Jinhsi E
Yinlin intro b4
Verina b3 E
Yinlin E H.forte Lib E
Jinhsi intro Ed E b1-4 E

Second rotation:
Yinlin intro b4
Verina Lib E
Yinlin EE
Verina echo jump b1-3
Jinhsi intro echo E Lib E b1-4
Yinlin plunge echo
Jinhsi E
Yinlin intro b4
Verina E
Yinlin E H.forte Lib E
Jinhsi intro Ed E b1-4 E

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The interesting things that I want to point out are that

  1. Yinlin needs to be swapped in to do her echo only in the first part of the rotation. If you do it in second part by mistake, Yinlin will do her intro, which is not optimal. This swap opportunity benefits Yinlin but not Yuanwu, thus if ur not doing it, Yuanwu would have the upper hand here
  2. Verina can be swapped into after Yinlin intro b4 swap cancel, saving you 2s of fieldtime on her. This is something that if u don't do, worsens Yinlin rotation but doesn't even come up in Yuanwu rotation since u have to build Verina's outro primarily anyways
  3. This Verina fieldtime shortening is achieved by her doing 2E's per rotation
knotty fiber
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I never follow a strict rotation

winged belfry
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like way too much swaping imho

knotty fiber
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It depends on what stage

rotund drum
# winged belfry

i used to make fun of the star citizen defense force for shilling their shitty game but the elden shills honestly arent much better

rotund drum
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if you say anything bad about elden ring they will lose their minds

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its hilarious

knotty fiber
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And I'm never playing like this on 2nd half

winged belfry
knotty fiber
night mantle
candid plume
rotund drum
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i remember the game running at like 5 fps day 1 because of shitty GRRM code and shader caching issues

knotty fiber
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Yes

rotund drum
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and if you pointed out the port was terrible they would freak out

knotty fiber
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It's quite different

rotund drum
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and write you essays about how the port is akshully very good

candid plume
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The AOE?

knotty fiber
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2-2?

candid plume
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Monke floor

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2nd tower, 2nd floor

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2-2

knotty fiber
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I always call it 5 cuz it's last tower

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5-1 and 5-2

knotty fiber
candid plume
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Yeah Aoe Yinlin is always different

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U can just E Lib E dash H.forte iinw

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And continue with the rotation, just offset by half

knotty fiber
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Forte or 2nd E depends

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Cuz on the run above

night mantle
knotty fiber
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I need to forte first then 2nd skill later cuz I need to minmax the forte bar

candid plume
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Yeah

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That's a fine choice as well

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In any case, I think I pointed out some interesting swap cancel opportunities that save time

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That can be used dynamically as u wish

knotty fiber
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For some reason my friend thinks it's better to max stack on hsi rather than using it more often

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I don't think so

candid plume
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Doing Yinlin echo in Jinhsi b4 swap cancel time
Verina E in Yinlin intro b4 swap cancel time
Yinlin EE right after Verina liberates and E's so Verina's E generates energy

knotty fiber
knotty fiber
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Cuz stacking is only a part of the nuke, there's base dmg as well

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So I'm more likely to swap in more often

candid plume
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It may be optimal in some situations

knotty fiber
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More swapping = more energy too

candid plume
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I.e. in AOE or a phase where u can't deal dmg anyways

knotty fiber
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At 120% ER I can use ult once per 2 nukes

knotty fiber
candid plume
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Like when bosses have high resistance phase or have a dmg cap phase like Kenki in genshin

knotty fiber
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If you can only deal dmg momentarily, then yeah

candid plume
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So it IS an idea for situations, just not right now anywhere really

knotty fiber
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For my rotations

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There's only 1 cycle that has max stack

candid plume
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I never get max stacks
I get like 90-95% on second rotation's first part

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Then 50-60% on second part of rotation depending on how many things actually hit the enemy

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Which is a great thing

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That means when bosses stall, we dodge, parry etc, it's gonna be less of a dps loss as we'd be gaining stacks

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Jinhsi's stacks partly act as a safety net meter

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U can't lose toooo much dps till u start capping the stacks

rotund drum
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the crowndoken is annoying

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idk how they expect nonwhales to deal with it

knotty fiber
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If it caps it's unintentional

candid plume
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Yea

rotund drum
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i cant tell what the super felian beringal is hitting me with either lol

blissful tulip
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The hologram mini monkeys have weird timing

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Always expect the first one to mistime and shoot much earlier

rotund drum
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seems like certain moves summon hadokens at higher diffs

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literally out of nowhere

blissful tulip
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Dif 6 exclusive, yeah

rotund drum
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i dodge the swings then the hadokens get me

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i cant even see where they're coming from

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guess i just gotta trial and error till i memorize all the summons

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or just tank them with yuanwu i guess lol

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yuanwu is funny for these non-dps check fights cause his high def and attack speed makes it so he cant die and parries everything

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so you can just sit as him and parry stuff until you knock them down then do jinhsi rot

blissful tulip
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This new illusive realm is a good improvement, unfortunately every run feels identical A_GaspTao

rotund drum
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ill wait for divergent realm

blissful tulip
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I feel that half of the 3* relics aren't worth bringing at all

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And the ranking system feels tacked on

rotund drum
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yeah they just copypasted SU

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ZZZ has it too

blissful tulip
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Not SU

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But either way, it's a shame that the improvements don't really fix the mode's main issue

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Already feels like 4* are falling behind in the mode A_LOLTao

rotund drum
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the 5*s are actually the ones who are bad tbh

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except jianxin

knotty fiber
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It's not the PGR's roguelike feeling

rotund drum
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midhsi is ok if you have her whaled out i think

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jiyan is cope

knotty fiber
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In PGR there's some fun lore too

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IR feels monotone

knotty fiber
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Only Jiyan Yinlin Jinhsi

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Jiyan still the best for me I think

blissful tulip
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I've tried Chixia, Baizhi and Jinshi in Dif V

knotty fiber
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Too easy to play with him

blissful tulip
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Jinshi cleared with 0 problems, the other two struggled severely

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Especially against Scar

knotty fiber
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I heard Baizhi stonks af last ver?

blissful tulip
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Could be the turtle, tbf, it's the best echo in the mode

sterile swallow
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I did Sanhua/Jiyan/Jianxin/Srover/Jinhsi, all were pretty great

knotty fiber
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None of them get anywhere close to bellborne

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The reason why Jiyan is better than Jinhsi for me is because he can use echo skill more frequently

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Hsi can't

sterile swallow
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Jinhsi needs the training enhancements that lets her start at BA3, and also the other 2 that enhances the forte gauge+increase forte gauge when she BAs + uses skill

knotty fiber
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It's disabled on air

sterile swallow
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Yeah not being able to turtle in midair C_KEKTao

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Totally unfair to Jinhsi

knotty fiber
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For Jiyan he needs cost down at the beginning, and -3s skill CD after that

blissful tulip
knotty fiber
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Then some necessary buffs and he's le goat

sterile swallow
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You can quit at start if you don't see turtle

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Thank goodness rerolling here is quick A_HuTaoWew

knotty fiber
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In HSR you need to reach domain 2 or no extra buff

blissful tulip
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But I finished the new IR in around an hour or two with dif V being a nice idea but executed poorly, I'm sure they'll do better next time considering the improvements in 1.1

knotty fiber
knotty fiber
sterile swallow
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Hoping for them to just make IR a permanent weekly thing, or even biweekly but keep the rewards the same as right now if biweekly

knotty fiber
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I hope there's gonna be a permanent one that's as interesting as Cursed Wave or Derive to Matrix

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Better make a whole new one rather than making IR permanent

sterile swallow
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Keep expanding on it

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For diff v, is the "abnormal activity detected" a normal occurrence where Scar spams AoE circles on the ground

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I only saw it on diff V and nowhere else A_HmmTao

dusty crown
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the enemies just randomly going back to full health because they are 1 inch away of their spawning point is annoying af

rotund drum
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if you think that's bad you should try fighting the dragons in elden ring

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spend like 5 minutes hitting its foot

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it flies up and lands on top of a cliff

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cant reach it

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sits up there for the rest of the fight spitting fire at you

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game decides you got too far away so it resets

neat robin
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Save me E_OMEGARAZOR

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Why is atk so hard to get

candid plume
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That is a spectacularly underpowered build yea

neat robin
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If he borrows jinhsi sig its still only at 1.5k atk …

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When I finish the stat talents
Jiyan- 2k atk, 70/255
Jinhsi- 2k atk, 82/225
Encore- 1.7k atk, 64/232
Yinlin- 1.5k atk, 65/236

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The stats progressively get worse as I get to my 2 electro sets ohmy

night mantle
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this is mine with her sig weapon

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get 64% atk and 80 flat atk from echos

knotty fiber
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the decipher is correct but the hint

rotund drum
ashen geyser
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Did he tho

rotund drum
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would you write a super asspained blogpost like this if you didnt

ashen geyser
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Guess you won't

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I also lost the 50/50 to jianxin but that's at like 40 pity so I still have a chance

edgy cobalt
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jinhsi pretty good but toa bias 100%

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god they need to make another verina

rotund drum
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copeposters aside

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jinhsi is good despite not having any super busted dedicated support

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if they add a CA-spammer with a skill damage boosting outro she'll be 9.5

edgy cobalt
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goodhsi to peakhsi

knotty fiber
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Though I would say

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Without the buffs she would still be slightly stronger than my Jiyan

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provided I'm not done with Jiyan build yet

rotund drum
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lol i did too many ults at the same time on scar and it froze

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good code

weary acorn
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Ngl I wish the next unit is a coord atk skill buffer

neat robin
night mantle
ashen geyser
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Tf he mean jinhsi is hard to use

cobalt apex
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hard to use A_WheezeTao

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also cal has been demolished since the change from cbt 2 to launch

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the team was too good

spice finch
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Any1 with changli infographic for prefarming. Thanks

spice finch
#

What is that sword thingy?

ashen geyser
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Jué's drops

spice finch
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Thaanks

rotund drum
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it was more along the lines of jiyan with mortefi is super good too but jinhsi doesn't have any dedicated buffers so she's only damage per screneshot and changli will probably be op too

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so its totally fine if you pulled and didnt get jinhsi btw that wasnt me i totally got her

burnt shoal
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cause i still don't have her sig

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and it cleared easy

knotty fiber
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We don't talk about anything lower than 4

burnt shoal
#

rip me not geared for endgame

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im at 52 pity on weapon banner now

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can i make it

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before banner ends

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trying to scrape so many primogems

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open world running dry

night mantle
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What about you guys?

night mantle
burnt shoal
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ohhh me see if can cook ore

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cook more

clear stump
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Is there enka for wuwa

rotund drum
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theres hakushin

kind turtle
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thats a different site 😭

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wuwa doesnt have a character display

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so there's no enka

clear stump
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Damn can't flex easily

edgy cobalt
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25 or 26 is whatever since no rewards

night mantle
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Reached 26...got 1 more star on left tower

edgy cobalt
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aix floor tanky for some reason

rotund drum
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i gave up on trying to beat the aix

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easily the hardest boss this rotation

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idk how they expect nonwhales to clear two tanky waves of spaced out adds then a full hp boss

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while the other half is literally just the boss

clear stump
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Don't we deal lesser damage if the lvl is far enough

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Should probably be fine once everyone max lvl their units

rotund drum
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tiny bit

night mantle
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I got 2 stars on aix with hrover, chixia and jianxin

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to clear the starting wave -> jianxin echo + ult + basic -> hrover ult + skill + echo -> chixia ult + echo (on 2 low hp mobs)...after this the shielding mob is left at half hp and the others are dead

rotund drum
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i tried using jiyan with jinhsi sig but that wasnt enough

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need to actually level him up a bit more i think

dusty crown
hollow gorge
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now the question is, do I sweat this for 27 stars or not. I have a built team for Monke, and I have a mediocre Jihnsi for Thundering, but I was off 2 stars only by 10 seconds on mephis without even trying

rotund drum
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the super thundering mephis is basically just a health sink

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if you're only at 1 star on it you would need to whale pretty hard to push it to 3

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you would also need to push the last star on aix floor which is pretty rough

hollow gorge
hollow gorge
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but Monke... seems like I will need to really sweat it to get 2 stars

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Jianxin Encore Hrover rotation is so fucking complicated lmao

rotund drum
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even with 2 you would still need to get 3 on aix and at least 1 on monke

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i had to whale out e1s1 jinhsi for memphis

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anything less than that and you'll probs need an invested yuanwu and/or really good echoes

neat robin
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Who do I even use as third
No jianxin

I guess I can put together rejuv yuanwu, then have verina ofc.. moonlit instead of rejuv for 3rd team or do I actually build baizhi

rotund drum
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moonlight verina is ideal i think but if shes on some other team then you may have to just yolo without taking damage

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you can use tether exploits if you're worried about dying

neat robin
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I have moon mort for jiyan
Rejuv verina, and a lv0 rejuv set on baizhi for now

rotund drum
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grapple exploit

lament shuttle
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Cuz he can’t even hit jinhsi half the time and she eats most of the field time

hollow gorge
hollow gorge
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it really wouldn't be a problem, if I get used to swapping from heron. Shouldn't take much time, except I really can't be bothered

neat robin
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Jiyan mort baizhi
Hrover encore verina
... jinhsi yinlin/yuanwu taoqi? I think the 4*s are both at s4 now

lament shuttle
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If yinlin is built she’ll out do yuanwu

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Otherwise yuanwu

neat robin
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Yeah then I lose rejuv & bell though

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Unless yinlin’s own dmg is more than those buffs on jinhsi

lament shuttle
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Depends how invested each character is

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Doesn’t hurt to try both

candid plume
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Hey chat

hollow gorge
candid plume
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Would you be willing to test a Jinhsi Yinlin rotation?

neat robin
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Yuanwu over yinlin even with verina there?

hollow gorge
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with verina I think Yuanwu is better than Yinlin in most cases

neat robin
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Hmm

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Will need to farm a moon set for verina then 😔

neat robin
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Have kept rejuv this whole time since I have moon mort & wanted rejuv>moon in jinhsi yinlin

candid plume
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Is the Jinhsi in question S3R1 or smth?

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Yinlin Verina tend to have 25 stacks on one E and 45 on other

neat robin
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I have s0r1 jinhsi & yinlin. s1 verina

candid plume
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The Yinlin dmg makes up for the missing stacks a couple times over

knotty fiber
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huh tfw I'm sweating for F123 more than 4 and 5

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cuz of the restrain on units I can use

candid plume
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Unless ofc your Jinhsi has nodes or a massive ToA blessing

hollow gorge
knotty fiber
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I haven't tried Yuanwu yet

candid plume
knotty fiber
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not sure if I can cook a 1 min run with him

candid plume
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U essentially have ways of saving time with specific swap cancels on Yinlin

knotty fiber
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cuz I can 1 min with Yinlin despite Yinlin being in a massive disadvantage

candid plume
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Yinlin intro b4 can be swap cancelled to Verina b3E
That Verina E then makes 2nd rotation have 2 less seconds of setup

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This is not possible in Yuanwu's rotation since u need Verina outro 2 times per rotation. The 2nd Verina E gets used up by the outro

knotty fiber
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I think Yuanwu is only good as a budget component

neat robin
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I’ll finish getting main talents to lv8 and the 3 main weapons to lv80 then and add yuanwu to the list
I dont think I’ll need 3 teams really that time soon

knotty fiber
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and the tests with him showing he's better or equal to Yinlin is biased

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cuz they test with 0 gear on Yinlin

neat robin
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Hopefully we get to see 1.2 stuff soon

knotty fiber
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the difference between geared and ungeared Yinlin vs Yuanwu is big

neat robin
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I thinkkkk my yinlin does 3k off field tics with an ok build

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And lv5 skills

hollow gorge
neat robin
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Which talent even increases yinlins off field dmg

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Skill or forte?

knotty fiber
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ungeared Yinlin has as much dmg as Yuanwu

candid plume
knotty fiber
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when you gear Yinlin like mine

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it's not even a contest

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I hate parrying and breaking in ToA

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cuz it's a dps loss

candid plume
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Yeah Yinlin privides 2.5x as much damage as you lose from the missing stacks when ur doing a simple enough swap cancel rotation

knotty fiber
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there's animation lock

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the clock keeps ticking but my rotation is slowed down

candid plume
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So ur still gaining roughly 3/4ths of a fully stacked Jinhsi nuke when u play Yaunwu instead of Yuanwu

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Which isn't an earth shattering difference ofc, that's simply the amount that S2 by itself provides in the first rotation

candid plume
knotty fiber
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yeah everything keeps ticking and you're slowed down

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I hate it

candid plume
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Same

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Btw I was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to test the following out:

First Rotation

Jinhsi echo E
Verina b3-5 Lib E
Yinlin EE
Verina echo jump b1-3
Jinhsi intro E
Yinlin plunge echo
Jinhsi b1-2 E
Yinlin p b1-2
Jinhsi b3-4
Yinlin plunge b1-2
Jinhsi E
Yinlin intro b4
Verina b3 E
Yinlin E H.forte Lib E
Jinhsi intro echo Lib E
Yinlin p b1-2
Jinhsi b1-2 E
Yinlin p b1-2 or intro b4 idk
Jinhsi b3-4 E
Yinlin p b1-2 or intro b4 idk
Jinhsi E

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Second Rotation

Yinlin b2 H.forte (maybe possible? Maybe u have to do something else? Maybe skip Yinlin forte this segment of the rotation anyways since it's too far?)
Verina Lib E
Yinlin EE
Verina echo jump b1-3
Jinhsi intro E
Yinlin p echo
Jinhsi b1-2 E
Yinlin p b1-2
Jinhsi b3-4
Yinlin p b1-2 (ur at 99 concerto. Worth asking, then, whether Jinhsi intro buffers the ability to go into incarnation state without outright replacing the Illuminous Epiphany skill or not i.e. the nuke)
Jinhsi E or Jinhsi intro E (if it works with a buffer)
Yinlin intro b4
Verina b3 E
Yinlin E H.forte Lib E
Jinhsi echo Lib E (oh shit, Yinlin gave her outro to Jinhsi earlier so no deepen. Oh well)
Yinlin p b1-2
Jinhsi b1-2 E
Yinlin p b1-2
Jinhsi b3-4
Yinlin p b1-2
Jinhsi E

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Cooking a way to potentially get 100% Yinlin coordinated uptime but it looks like this

neat robin
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2.4k off field, unbuffed (lv70 string)

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Idk but I dont think yuanwu is doing near that much when hes got rejuv build to buff jinhsi

candid plume
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Like Verina level damage

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What happens when Jinhsi has yet to unleash her nuke but gets an intro

burnt shoal
#

i find it so silly that i never spent starglitter

candid plume
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If the Illuminious Epiphany doesn't get replaced with Overflowing Radiance, do u get to do it after ur done nuking?

burnt shoal
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when i can only buy equivalent of 30 pulls

candid plume
#

For how long is it available?

burnt shoal
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when c1 limited is 40 pulls

candid plume
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Does it stay even if you swap?

burnt shoal
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and c1 standadd is only 30

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it means only ones that can use starglitter to buy cons rn are whales

rotund drum
#

just call it skill, superskill and supersuperskill like everyone else

candid plume
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Or does it allow you to nuke?

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And then wait 5s before skill'ing

burnt shoal
#

are we getting one more event before jinhsi banner ends

candid plume
#

What happens if you swap out after gaining intro

burnt shoal
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cause im 52 pity in

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on weapon banner

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and no more primo

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theres like 2 weeks left

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but zero events from what i know

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unless i forgot to read somerhing

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wuwa ded now

rotund drum
candid plume
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Oh that's not the thing I'm saying

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I mean Jinhsi yet to nuke> swap > Jinhsi intro

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What happens

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Does she lose ability to nuke?

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Jinhsi intro E b1-4 > Swap > Jinhsi intro then what?

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E = nuke?

rotund drum
#

iirc she keeps nuke but it'll go back to superskill after the nuke

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but it'll likely be on cd

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since superskill cd is longer than stand mode

candid plume
#

Will u retain the ability to superskill

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When u come back 5s later

rotund drum
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you can superskill after its off cd yeah

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but you have to wait anyway

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so no real point in swapping midway to try to gimmick the intro

candid plume
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Yeah but that means the insane dps rotation I cooked could potentially work

rotund drum
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i aint reading that

candid plume
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Ye

rotund drum
#

summarize it in 5 words or less

candid plume
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100% Yinlin coordinated attack uptime

rotund drum
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yinlin CA should be 99% uptime anyway

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if you're gimmicking shit to try to squeeze out one second it wont matter in practice anyway

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since you still have to dodge shit

knotty fiber
candid plume
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Oh

knotty fiber
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Once she's in incarnation

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You need to nuke

candid plume
#

Uh no

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U can swap

knotty fiber
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Once swapped out she's out of incarnation

candid plume
#

And still nuke

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No

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U are just plain misled here

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I swapped her incarnation, still nuked

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Have it on video

knotty fiber
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Misled?

candid plume
#

Happens to everyone

knotty fiber
#

I don't think I've seen any video of that

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Cuz I experienced it on my own

candid plume
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Well, it has a 5s limit

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Once u b4

knotty fiber
#

Well then that's not incarnation anymore

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That's the nuke

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Incarnation is the state during which she's allowed to do EBA combo

candid plume
#

Wait u mean b1-4 has to be done?

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No swapping?

knotty fiber
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Yes

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Yes

candid plume
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Then her E stays

knotty fiber
#

Yeah

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The nuke stays even after Incarnation

candid plume
#

I seeee

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My bad for misunderstanding earlier

knotty fiber
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It's okay

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I misunderstood earlier too

candid plume
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Ok so the rotation needs changes

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How about when u've done b4

knotty fiber
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Tho it's kinda not worth swapping out when you can nuke right away, since I wanna use every intro opportunity as a nuke

knotty fiber
#

You don't need to complete it

rotund drum
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huh

knotty fiber
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So you can swap as soon as the skill button lights up I think

rotund drum
#

she stays in stand mode after swapping

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i do it all the time to reposition yuanwu spike if she supersuperskills out of the circle

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she'll just reappear on the ground

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but still stand mode

candid plume
#

But I meant

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What if u swapped, came back and Jinhsi intro'd

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Would you have overflowing radiance or nuke as her E?

rotund drum
#

her skills have a priority i think

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even if its on cd it'll replace the lower level version

knotty fiber
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Lemme see what happens but probably the overflowing radiance

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The one that sends her into incar

candid plume
#

And intro makes E be the 2nd level

rotund drum
#

its basically the order in which you would normally do them

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nuke > supersuperskill > superskill > regular skill

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you're probably overthinking it

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the char isnt really rocket science

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shes literally babby's first dps

knotty fiber
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ok the nuke is up if you swap within 5s @candid plume

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and radiance is available after that

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oh also yea I tested again

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incarnation is kept even after swapping out
my previous cases was probably because 10s was up

candid plume
#

Oh I see

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So my rotation could technically work

candid plume
#

Jinhsi E
Yinlin p b1-2 in isolation would already be a great thing to test

knotty fiber
#

what's p again

karmic fox
#

I think I caught them all, but I'm still stuck at level 20 305/350. What's happening?

karmic fox
#

thank you!

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uh.. how do I unlock here?

outer jetty
#

Had game crashed during Jue fight, then daily quest 3 turtle respawned to max HP after defeated.

Yeah no I am waiting till they sort this all out A_GaspTao

ashen geyser
#

Alone in the abyss

cobalt apex
#

Jue is the most annoying fight in the entire game

#

the auto target makes me miss every single of my attack

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every time i try to attack it targets the head and in the middle of the attack switch to the body???

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so i end up not hitting anything

candid plume
limber imp
#

How much damage does changli forte do

rotund drum
#

a lot less than jinhsi's nuke lol

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maybe they'll buff her at the last minute

clear stump
#

That's just cope

weary acorn
#

Otherwise it's gonna be a warcrime

knotty fiber
edgy cobalt
#

frauded jiyan cratio on me

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his sig would've easily fixed it but I lucksacked stringmaster instead which I'd definitely take over it if I had to choose

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how does one cook a 36% crit rate weapon on the very first patch already

neat robin
#

I noticed its got lower atk

edgy cobalt
#

you have a point it has the same atk as cosmic ripples, both having the lowest base atk for a 5*

neat robin
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24.3 cr / 48.6 cdmg with 587 atk
35.9 cr with 500 atk

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Ig thatd put it around 72 cdmg with 500 atk..?

edgy cobalt
#

crit still more favourable imo you can easily inflate atk stats with 5p glow & verina/baizhi atk buffs anyways

neat robin
#

Yeah

edgy cobalt
#

genshit only started cooking high cv weapons in 1.3 iirc when I played awhile back

neat robin
#

Id say the big cr is better but rolling 12% cdmg subs is so pain

neat robin
#

Thats 33 cr?

edgy cobalt
#

yeah and stringmaster has 36cr

neat robin
#

Which is one of the ‘midrange’ crit weapons

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Wonder if wuwa will keep only 2 crit options

edgy cobalt
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like the only crit weapons I remember from that time was jade spear and sacred prayers

neat robin
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Yeah but they added 44 cr weapons later

edgy cobalt
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with jade cutter yes I've been there

neat robin
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Sry thats what I meant by midrange
22/33/44 cr or 44/66/88 cdmg

edgy cobalt
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thx for clarification I didn't really last long to see them add those high ranges

rotund drum
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high atk low substat is fine in wuwa too since the diff in base stats between 4* and 5* is so big

neat robin
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We have 24/36 cr and 48/~72 cdmg I honestly wouldnt see another value unless its in the middle

edgy cobalt
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I and always will be the hsr man

neat robin
#

Like 30 cr / 60 cdmg option

#

Turn based have always been less engaging for me
But like. Probably adhd I love the chaos

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Give me turn based I set it on auto and go do something else on my phone

edgy cobalt
#

hsr is the easiest turn based game anyone could get into tbh

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also being able to auto for a hoyo game is huge

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and less exploration

neat robin
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I ‘play’ 3 turn based games and have wuwa genshin for open world and proper combat

edgy cobalt
#

balancing gi and wuwa sounds like hell lol

neat robin
#

Nah

edgy cobalt
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at least with hsr you're prolly chilling especially with e3 acheron(?)

rotund drum
#

i mean the average wuwa/genshit char has like two buttons

neat robin
#

If I’m busy I just do dailies and condense resin for another day in gi
Wuwu dailies. I’m not letting myself stress over capping stam

rotund drum
#

you just do the rotation and if it does too much you reduce the mvs

edgy cobalt
neat robin
edgy cobalt
#

deadass I play wuwa on laptop and then I run up r1999 and hsr on my phone

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and afterwards I just uh
head to work or watch youtube

rotund drum
#

wuwa and genshit arent too bad except for the camera controls

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swipe to pan camera is dumb

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floating joysticks would also be nice

neat robin
#

How else would you look around on mobile except swiping…

edgy cobalt
#

I do have wuwa on my phone but my cracked mobile gaming days are over
I cannot replicate what I can do on laptop w/ rotations but on my 13

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only if I have to run up dailies I'll hop on it

neat robin
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Wuwa on mobile is why ive accepted just 21* reward in tower
But I dont have any computer to run games

edgy cobalt
#

trust me if you're pc master race you can easily get more stars than me

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petition to fundraise a pc for ninjy

neat robin
#

Lol

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Its fine its not even one wish I’m losing from no 24*

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Nothing else I play needs better controls anyways

edgy cobalt
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yea I don't think there's ever a time where I was one pull off soft pity before banners expiring

neat robin
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If I was legit 1 pull away id just refresh the welkin thing

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Whatever its called in wuwa

edgy cobalt
#

omg monthly

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don't even know the name either lol

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think I technically broke f2p status in hsr when I bought a code off someone in 1.4 to get the chef wallpaper/pfp collab
wuwa and r1999 will just be pennyless runs for now

neat robin
#

r99… just impatiently waiting for isolde rn

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I dont mind getting monthly/ bp for games I’m playing daily
Hate shopping so only other thing to waste money on is food lol

edgy cobalt
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I used to be a “omg f2pbtw and whale shame” kinda guy but then I realize what’s 10 or 20 bucks gonna do especially if you like the game enough then its fine

neat robin
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No different than people spending money every month on tv or spotify

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Just a different form of entertainment

edgy cobalt
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yeah I literally run up yt premium rn

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also completely forgot I run yearly nitro too lol

dusty crown
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i need to learn rotations and all that

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(and learn to dodge)

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(mostly learn to dodge, these enemies hit like absolute madlads unlike genshin)

knotty fiber
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tfw I had more trouble clearing 4L than everything else

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fuck the trio and fuck Aix

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@cobalt apex holy shit

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redemption incoming?

dusty crown
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even when i was OUT of his beam

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they really need to fix hit boxes and the dumb as hell respawn

knotty fiber
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it's not the beam that's the issue cuz there's only 2 impact frames

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the drill is the biggest issue

dusty crown
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i had the tankier enemy of the trio near the edge and she went back to the center and went back to full health

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like why does this happen on this stage 😵‍💫

dusty crown
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maybe there was some lag on my part that i didn't notice though

forest dome
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low roll asf

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😭

night mantle
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these all are cr....got when I am farming for cd

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another cr

knotty fiber
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someone mentioned cdmg?

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I was farming for crate

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and I used half of those cdmg

night mantle
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bro, exchange with meeee

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take my cr give me cd

knotty fiber
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I just completed mine earlier

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took too long

night mantle
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out of 15 got 8 cr and no cd

ashen geyser
weary acorn
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Still no drip?

forest dome
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yesterday no

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check again in 4 hours

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funny how info but no drip

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zhenyi model nowhere

neon frost
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hey y'all, how would you make three teams from this?

I kinda don't want to play Cal anymore though, those rotations are way too tight.. I'm thinking Jinhsi-Yinlin-Verina, HavocRover-Danjin-Baizhi, and then dps Jianxin-Mortefi-Sanhua

or maybe swap Sanhua with Taoqi and keep Sanhua with HavocRover?

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as a follow-up, I should go for the standard 5* broadblade if I don't get Jinhsi's weapon, but if I do, should I go for another sword for Sanhua, gauntlets for Jianxin, or pistols for Mortefi?

night mantle
candid plume
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And u can do 1-2, 1-3, 3-2 and 3-3 with Calcharo Sanhua Yangyang. Those floors are easy enough

dense elbow
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Finally lmao

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She's cute

night mantle
copper flicker
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xiangling yao oppa

night mantle
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am I crazy or does this guy has marks on his hair????

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we will zoom to his hair now C_HuPepeSmile

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or maybe robo arm

clear stump
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Gun healer pls

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With coordinate attack

weary acorn
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Ngl yeah we need another sustain option that has buffs

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I'm tired of not having another verina

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Baizhi is a patch A_GaspTao

blissful tulip
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My boy

neat robin
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These are the 1.2 chars?

robust axle
night mantle
night mantle
blissful tulip
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If there's one thing I really appreciate about Waves is just how short ToA takes

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It takes 10 minutes to get 21/24 stars

neat robin
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I want a new glacio. That doesnt take 99% of field time

blissful tulip
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For those who take the game more seriously though it'll lead to complaints about the lack of content quickly A_HuPensive

neat robin
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Or a new guantlet

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Id like a non-lingyang basically

neat robin
weary acorn
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Xiangling Yao free?

neat robin
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I do hope they progressively add more like how hsr did
Without making tower n such more difficult

dense elbow
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😭

cobalt apex
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😭

dense elbow
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imagine being so uggo you free

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😭

weary acorn
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Lee bros

cobalt apex
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free 5* limited on the 2nd update

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😭

weary acorn
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It's joever

hollow gorge
dense elbow
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free Xiangli if youre Union 42

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real

weary acorn
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Ok imma be a crackhead here

kind turtle
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Free 😭

cobalt apex
weary acorn
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Both chars are supports