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Was gonna say I’m doing something wrong if I’m supposed to get gold drops every couple runs lol
I still dont think weapons past 70 are worth it quite yet
Idk
Thatd be 300+ stam just to go 70->80, I think?
thats not that much
and you can move them around
better than spending tons of rsc leveling up jinhsi only to have her be crept in 1.2
I am at 61 pity waiting for 4th july for weapon 
Yeah sure thing
70-80 5* weapon
Maybe nobody cares. I’m levelling the cares I actually want to play
there's a reason people call PGR Powercreep Gotham Racing
PGR's powercreep isn't fast individually, though, characters can last over 1.5 years
~300 stam for the gold drops, and 160 for the credits
And however much more for the xp…
And you do get enough BC in order to obtain every newcomer
Flautist or heron as main echo for yinlin?
I have tempest which works for cal team but its too slow gaining concerto for jinhsi
I think botht he electro 3costs give concerto at least..
lumiscale imo
That thing can be electro set?
Btw for duplicate how many starglitter you get
yeah its cryo and electro
Oh 3 for 4* and 15 for 5*
Hmmm would need to find a double crit to replace a current echo….
I’ll just toss on flautist main for her in jinhsi team atm
Busy hunting a spectro echo I need one with cdmg and er
Some can last longer as well but well, 2 games have different ways of operating
For games like GI and HSR which WuWa is based off, the powercreep is quite false
It's mostly the stage and buff that give the "powercreep" feel
No new character is even 1.5 times stronger than any early released unit
They're arguably inferior in some certain contents too
Well except for the new Hutao vs Arlecchino one 

Based on accumulated percentage need 570 ish pulls to get a limited waveband from shop using corals 
That is like 7 patches of saving I guess.
What
Nahhh I didn't even pull that many
And that's without any S6 4* too
I did probably 200 lims and 100 std for 360 corals
No offrate
Currently have like 130 corals for just 1.0 164 pulls
Offrate gives extra 30
Also the current pace is 100 pulls/patch as f2p
For whether or not they're staying this way, idk
I guess beginner banner and freebie help give a lot corals
1 gold gives 15 coral regardless of being first acquisition or not
Beginner 1, beginner 2, free pick, and weapon banner
those 4 alr give you 60 corals from gold alone
Not even accounting for purps
I checked astrite.gg history and yup that track with my current corals. But after early freebie pulls the rate gonna slow down.
Around 468 pulls on limited banner then, assuming no S6
Huh close enough to my corals rate
I feel like in about 2 patches, Blue wishes will be kinda worthless compared to now
A combination of having only 2 good standard 5 stars characters (that you can guarantee), Generous premium weap banner, and the free standard weap selector.
And also you can freely switch weapons between characters in Tower
you're still going to need like 300 blue fates
if you want all the 5* weapons
assuming you dont sack super hard
Why would you need all the standard 5 star weaps if you wanna go for premium weaps anyways
Especially the 5 star standard weapons that have ATK mainstat
I guess it would help tho if your subdps has the same weapon type as main dps
Like Yinlin Encore
not everyone's a whale who can afford every sig
crit sub is always nice but eventually you'll want stuff with a matching passive
Eh maybe, Jiyan's weap rn is p good for Jinhsi even if 16% or so off from the calcs I've seen
some of the e6 standard eidolons are pretty decent too
e6 jianxin looks pretty worth if you can get it
it basically turns her into korwa
Guess so, and Verina S2 is a nice boost as well
they never actually fixed lingyang rates being rigged either i think
so eventually everyone will have e6 lingyang
he seems like he might actually become an ok dps at e6
well there's response bias i guess
when i was rerolling i got him like 4 or 5 times i think though
and i got him twice while rolling for danjin
so i believe it
For me of my 10 rerolls I only got him once, rest was Encore with a smattering of Verina or Jianxin
Zamn Yuanwu Taoqi
That's my dream team too for Jinhsi
What's your refinement level on Taoqi's Discord?
R1 only
hopefully the new simulated universe saves whoever they added to it
if jiyan is any indication jinhsi will be mid for it
I'm pretty sure at some point it'll approach HSR school of weapon creation: "If you cannot get a Sig LC/weapon for your DPS, you might as well don't roll for them"
Kinda
For example Acheron gets like 53% jump from F2P BiS to Sig S1
Bruh
Tho surely its not needed to clear whatever they have
If so well uh yea then its a problem
And it appears like Yunli straight up doesn't work consistently without her Sig
Hows the banner rate for Lightcones?
80, 75:25
Yikes
Welp Im just happy weap banner here is guaranteed lmao
I remember rolling for Grasscutter and getting Aquila
Feels so bad
its because lightcones in hsr dont have substats
its just the base atk and the passive
so if the passive isnt good its literally a dead cone
acheron in particular is dumb because she has incredibly specific requirements to work that arent part of her base kit
so she has to get cons + sig to compenate
Give me your offrate Chixia, I want to build her one day fr
need 1 more for s6
Only at S1 rn 
All those parries are 100% planned and calculated.
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The sub is on the effect itself
i think is more fun that way
is so funny seeing niche effects already at 1.0 in star rail
like bronya lc buff only works for the following ally making a turn after skill
wonder what genshin would be like if effects were already like that from the start
oh wuwa lounge so ig wuwa more like genshin rip
Nah I'm talking about them having the crit rate/crit dmg/ehr/ BE listed on the effect

It's not even interesting it's just there
We literally get free pulls because they rigged it and cn players found out about it
???
Can you send a source
Literally haven't heard of this ever
Like unless im super lucky I never noticed it ever when rerolling
If anything I should be asking if Encore was rigged cus I got her 8/11 rerolls
I would think rigging a Gacha system would have made way more waves
But I haven't even seen this in r/Gachagaming
Yeah that's what im thinking too
honkai producer
source is "I pulled this out of my ass"
50% of my rerolling was Encore but I still don't think it's rigged

I didnt reroll but I had s1 calcharo before getting any other standard
i also dont have lingyang
The lingyang thing is confirmation bias 
Ur obviously gonna be getting him at ur early beginner since it's literally what 5 of them there?
Help why is my wuwa account acting like my genshin account
First five star I thought I wanted (yinlin=Hu Tao) but lost 50/50
Then found one that I actually liked
(Yae miko and changli)
And they kinda switched elements
First one I wanted was pyro but I got an electro after that that I wanted
First one I wanted was electro but then getting a fusion that I want
my account is so rigged got 1 gold in 22 runs
FUCK I ACCIDENTALLY ASTRITE REFRESHED

Well spent
At all or 3 dorito
at all
although i havent tried
you dont get anything for non-dorito i think
unless you have non-dorito on a different floor too
im waiting for the free fates to see if i can get at least a helios cleaver or a lustrous razor before i decide whether to go in on the sig
right now im still using the craftable ER greatsword and i dont want to waste any more mats on it
it was good enough for 3-dorito on the other side though so its really just aix being dumb
It’s doable with lvl 70 calchero yinlin comp I’ve seen it on YouTube
My calchero isn’t invested enough to do it but it’s definitely possible
i dont have yinlin and my calcharo isnt built
i could try it with encore but its probably more productive to just bruteforce it with jinhsi
Otherwise I did it with havoc mc + encore
rather than spending rsc on mid
But only 2 dorito
I’m curious to see the c6 spectro mc tech on right side, haven’t seen anything about it
iirc super aix has 40% spectro res so jinhsi needs to be considerably beefier to compensate vs other elements
although its jinhsi so she can likely make up that diff
just need to finish leveling her up
i dont think her BA, skill or minor traces are really worth leveling all the way but ult might be
Her atk% and crit% are definitely worth it and other than that, forte > lib > intro imo
i think r5 craftable gs is actually not tha tmuch worse than r1 helios since the better passive somewhat makes up the diff
and cubes are easy to get in this game it seems
intro is less worth than skill i think
it deals like 150% damage lmao
crit is fine but its a lot of mats
for like a 5% overall increase
It is a lot of mats yeah but she’s a hyper carry
still gotta prioritize since its early game
i think they're giving away a bunch of free fates starting tomorrow so i'll wait and see what i get
if i can get a helios i'll build that, otherwise i may consider spending primogems on the sig
i still have the selector box too but i'd rather save that for the sword or pistol
is the standard weapon banner guaranteed on the one you pick or is it still a 50/50
Guaranteed
I’m close to second pity on it not. Sure what to pick between pistol, a second sword or a broadsword
the sword and pistol will be decent for anyone who can actually use it in the future although maybe not worth holding out for right at the start
broadsword is probably fine fi you want to pick it for free but its basically just a base atk statstick
the passive and substat are both kinda bad
Yep
tbf midhsi also gets way too much dmg bonus so her sig isnt actually as good as it looks either
other than having crit substat
skill damage is generally safe though and its a lot of skill damage so it should be close to bis for any other broadsword dps in the future
high base low sub is probably better than vice versa in this game since base on weapon contributes a considerably bigger percentage of your stat total than in genshit
the standard rectifer is mega ass lol
No her sig is so good it lets her build atk spectro instead of double spectro
who the hell said jinhsi's sig is not good?
Jinhsi's signature and best in slot weapon granting an exceptional amount of Crit Rate, Resonance Skill DMG% and DMG% all stats that amplify Jinhsi's damage tremendously. This weapon handily beats out all of the competition without trouble. One thing to note when using this weapon is that due to the sheer amount of DMG% Jinhsi has from her kit, echoes and this weapon it means she can comparatively gain higher value than usual when stacking ATK %, specifically on her 3 cost echoes instead of Spectro %.
I don’t think this is a good argument to justify sig > standard 5*, to me the crit main stat is already a good enough claim
the crit mainstat is the big sell
the dmg bonus is fine but overall less important
crit mainstat and high base
the latter being why the standard 5* is also good
iirc atk mainstat echo is still only very slightly better than dmg mainstat even with all those things though
It’s only better at like c4 or c6 iirc
the fact that she has too much dmg bonus is never a good reason to

bro acts like atk% cost 3 doesn't exist
Is this suggesting double crit echoes ? Huh
at s6 44111 can pull ahead yeah
she gets a lot of everything rly 
assuming sig anyways
It’s the first calc I see saying this all the others have it 10% worse
it's ironically good, 44 that is
i can ask her later if u want
I don’t have. C6 but it’s still curious
I don't think it's better than 43311 atkatk tho
grim is tcing wuwa ?
at least pre S3
he does the prydwen stuff
oh
thats prydwens numbers for her
this is S0 or S6?
S0 it seems
I they only show s0
for Maygi calc she says 44111 better even at S0
then she also says that
which I think is
nah

it can be better if you have like max rolls on dmg and atk but shit roll on crit
well if you have doubts, then go to her calculator and figure stuff out
I've had enough of Maygi since ToF
I have heard she is really good with these kind of things
so unless she goes absolutly crazy I think I can believe her
Idk who these ppl are at all
back in ToF she was a, well, comparatively big CC for mathing stuffs
but at the end of the day not many top rankers use her stuffs 
neither did I
This is rivineous
But also didn’t do any past c0 calcs
It’s like there’s Swiss cheese here
Everyone has parts of the photo but no full picture lol
I would say it depends on how they calculate things
like maygi numbers depends a lot on the rotations and performing everything at precise time
also this assumes that your echos have 4/5 good dmg sub-stats - atk, atk%, skill%, cr, cd
hers and prydwen rotations are quite different
in prydwen you do jinhsi complete combo first to trigger outro and then swap
she doesn't do that
I don’t feel like I’m any closer to making an informed investment decision
I guess in the end it doesn’t actually matter for 1-4% gap since good sub stats are much more important
does anyone has some Changli calcs that don't include Encore?
S0R1 Jinhsi with good build BARELY being able to clear lvl 100 monke is crazy.
Really shows how Kuro never envisioned standard 5-stars or even Jiyan / Yinlin to be able to clear it.
Considering how strong Jinhsi is by comparison.
Too hard to get the 4:45 monke spawn so I didn't bother getting a cleaner run. Also, the boss is bugged, sometimes it just runs away to the other side on spawn.
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that's not a good build. That's acceptable build
Of course I would never build Chixia, but that person did 
the fact that he could 3* Monke with such mediocre echoes says a lot
the game is simply a question of luck. Having 2 effective sub echoes vs having 4 sub echoes is like 40-50% DPS increase. That's insane, if you consider it
holy shit he ends all of them with 1-2 seconds or less to spare
I can't imagine using Hrover+Danjin in center tower vs. that monkey
But he does have solid echoes on Hrover so there is some investment
Also talent Lv8 for Hrover's forte/skill/liberation, plus all stat nodes maxed
That's fine considering Danjin's outro buff
I was wondering how he was 65/316
it's HRover's hazard tower currently, with immense Liberation DMG bonus
True, center tower supporting both Jinhsi's and Hrover's nukes
also Calcharo 

S2 Verina 💀 no wonder the rotation is too fast
why does UL50 rewards sounds less than UL40 
Even with this dogwater echo still
Basically 4/5 pieces only
even less than what I got when I was 40
I might just spend my guarantee'd 5-star on S1 verina
she's just that useful
i heard that for jinhsi double atk goblet is better than double spectro is that true
cause tc says jinhsi has too much dmg bonus
It depends on weapon
And subs
Without sig you’ll prob want double spectro
Maybe atk spec if you have great subs
With sig youd want atk spec
Unless having two really good spec%
Depends on what subs you have
And also what she has a lot is just skill dmg bonus, ult dmg and intro dmg not so much
For me it's probably most optimal with 1 spectro 1 atk, cuz I alr got a lot of atk subs
Buffers also provide her atk% buffs
tired of everything
yeah
Anyone have a mining route for the echo xp crafting?
44111 clearing toa pog
I didn't realize it until now, but Jue makes an updraft
Time to try out Midair Jue + Grapple and see just how far up Jinhsi can attack enemies from 
Just gonna pretend my cal doesnt exist
is your jiyan double aero?
thats a lot of atk, im jelly
damn
All of them have lv70 5* weapons actually so I got that extra crit
I basically spent the entire first month just farming aero stuff
lol center tower is easier than left tower
still one dorito short though
may need to spend money
That's insane Mortefi
You'll get like 20% more DPS by going to level 90. Also, it's effectively one character team. It's not going to preform as well as 2dps 1 support.
Fair enough.
Jiyan can clear the middle tower though?
But yeah once we get to UL60 and unlock lvl 90, 30* all the towers will be ez
At that point i want other endgame content
We are getting roguelikes every patch
But it's not enough
Can only wait and see what combat events/endgame modes kuro will cook up later, and hope they actually require player skill
Hmm lets see lvl90
I watch a CC he will be ul60 today...he has 27 stars I think
chixia and jiyan are the main dps for him
lets see how much increase he gets
Even with money?
@lament shuttle if this non-limited units can do this, i dont see how limited that is stronger cant do it
he doesnt benefit from the tower buff at all
The monkey has 40 res against jiyan
Is this fucking real lmao
is it calcharo
Random NPC Xunwei
In German
If it can do 70 seconds on thundering memphis, why not 120 seconds on monkey
Because the monkey takes way less dmg from jiyan due to its resistance to same type dmg
I mean that was the case last rotation when the buff in left side helped him a lot too
But maybe 10 extra lvls will let him clutch it up
70 seconds and 120 seconds, 10% dmg res and 40% dmg res
Ill try to find a vid later on bilibili when i have the time
Not sure if a Lv80 s0r1 Jiyan can clear the center tower monkey fast enough thanks to its innate aero resistance? He would easily sweep the initial set of mobs though, but rip his damage once Ape spawns in
i cant even beat superaix with jinhsi thanks to its spectro res
doubt jiyan is clearing shit
The buffs also don't benefit him since its 60% resonance/liberation damage bonus, and his damage scales off Heavy Attacks
maybe whale jiyan
I can ask my c6 jiyan friends if it’s doable
lmao
Iirc the dmg formula for 40% and 10% res is still the same, enemy just receives 60% dmg instead of 90%?
s1 verina instead of s1 jinhsi 
Solid 0/4 5050s won my average 5* pity is like 40 though
I also think I want a cr dreamless on rover for now (until we can get s6 havoc) 60 cr is not enough. Miss too many ults
oh bitch plz
my Yinlin went from 8k/hit to less than 4k per hit from monkey to mephis

also
grouping stage is always harder than single boss stage
rather than asking why they can't do it, why not try it for yourself

what is this? i cant seem to interact with it
it's the exploration quest
the green one
ah.. got it thanks
man free pulls are too late

I am at 64 pull on weapon banner need those 10 pulls

when are we getting them?
4/6/10
yeah 4/6/10th of july
Is the quest in Mt. Firm "Lores Beyond the Ranges" playable or did I just somehow miss it after clearing the entire map besides one frostbug I have to find later.

I may wanna look for a CD Inferno Rider 
Is this 44111?
4-3-3-1-1 Stringmaaster
ah ok
and yeah you desperately need cdmg
and also atk
Took them quite some time
I was wrong, couldnt find S0 Jiyan tower 3* clear on monkey lmao
Aero dmg res was too much
As expected yep
Looks like i cant just hyperinvest in 1 unit yet
F
Once an enemy with taht dmg res comes out ill get fucked
If i could only invest in 2 main dps and easily clear endgame content

Taoqi
if u have Discord
I don’t
Havoc Rover, then
Wouldnt calcharo then be better?
Considering he’s my current highest investment Dps
And I have the standard weapon
I don’t have good swords
When she comes out, it'll be easier to say if she works well with Calcharo
right now, I can say that Hrv Changli should be a safe bet
that it will work well
she's definitely an option, but Changli's damage is benefited by skill bonuses
not liberation bonuses
if u wanna play Jianxin Changli though, go ahead, the grouping is worth it when against aoe
Alr tyyy
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Here's a question: Can this possibly be worth doing. Is it a worthwhile trade to go from 30s rotation to 35s rotation to get 100% uptime on Yinlin coordinated attacks
obviouslsy I'm subtracting the time the boss stalls by moving away and attacking
at 38:20 on the ingame timer (0:31 in the video) she already has 70% of her forte
so she could possibly do it 2 times every rotation
if my Jinhsi was built I'd be able to check if it was worthwhile but she's lvl 40 and I want to get 27 stars before I even think about building her
these rotation values might help https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vTbG2HfkVxyqvNXF2taikStK-vJJf40QrWa06Fgj17c/edit?gid=1003421045#gid=1003421045
there's 2 factors here that could justify the rotation extention right? More stacks and more Yinlin dmg
forgive me for doubting the validity of a 23.3s Jinhsi rotation
that seems absurd to me
I haven't played her a lot but I cannot grasp how any rotation with her can be less than 16 + 12 = 28s long
hawt
for me, a single Jinhsi uptime takes about 8s
are you including the time it takes for yinlin herself to rotate
you could precharge her mark i guess but lol
which message are you asking this about?
regarding the video I showed or my disbelief about rotation time in that sheet?
What's this
illusive realm prob
1.1 IR
reminds me of the fact that we should get compensation for Monke running away in 1.1
that is a huge bug
12s I assume is jinshi combo what is 16s?
8s (jinhsi damage window) * 2 is 16
12 is the setup time
they should add compensation for characters targeting yuanwu's spike
5s for Verina, 7s for Yinlin
yeah I assume *2 means the starting combo to build her outro and then the final combo with all the buffs....the rotation I gave is different, there is no outro building
albeit kinda short duration
good enough for stuff like moc though i guess
atm jinhsi uses the healer as her buffer anyway so shields arent as important but that may change
though I would say her rotations are exactly pin point on time and definately hard to perform ir.
are you suggesting that the 23.3s rotation is achievable ingame?
like against a dummy
definately hard to perform ir. - No I am not!
I get that it won't actually happen
but like theoretically if we had a dummy
that it could be performed at all
from my undertsanding, unless Verina is with Variation, which sadly mine is not, she cannot possibly rotate faster than 5s
then add 5s to every rotation of her 
fuck this game
Yinlin even with all the swap cancels cannot possibly do 2 double E's, cancel her echo and build her forte in less than 5s
and from my testing a Jinhsi intro E E N4 E takes about 8s
I say about, but it's exactly 8s in the video I presented
I HATE THESE
low roll but its okay
...
yup their value totally depends on the resonator
so like can it possibly be shorter than 8 (Jinhsi) * 2 + 5 + 5 = 26s?
oh and fuck you at the end
yeah maybe, around 26/27s
good yuanwu piece
oh i was scrolled up
discord not defaulting to newest message is sus
you should have stopped at this point already
and no, atk% is a good roll
it's only below crit
it means i dont get double crit
which is why
you don't continue when you see 2 useless rolls on 1st and 2nd rolls

sure
could have had more if I didn't do yolo rolls
cuz most of my yolo rolls went wrong
just ebay your yolo rolls
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isn't that supposed to be 10, 25 and 15 instead?
25 because 1 electromagnetic blast is 5 extra on top of the 20 that Lib gives
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source is wuthering wiki
i cant beat the super mourning aix
guess im continuing to build midcore
40% spectro res lol
i cant use jinhsi for all the hard stages anyway so i need to have at least one more dps
center tower is actually relatively easy so if i can get one more dorito that'll be enough for this week i think
not gonna try autismoing for 27 or 30
huh...that is wrong
but S6 yinlin is correct
strange

I need a havoc wolf or tamborinist
And with cr cdmg/atk%
Gonna take forever
Hmm..she said she just fixed it
what does swap mean here
switch to next character prob
What are good supports for changli
I love RNG 🤤
I tested both rotations and it's 28s vs 34s roughly
one has 18s uptime on Yinlin forte, other has 100% uptime 
the weird thing is that there's a 4s downtime between Jinhsi dmg windows (since her intro takes about 1s off the 5s cd her E has when her first dmg window ends) where ur kinda left doing nothing
sure, u can Yinlin intro E Lib E dash forte in the 28s rotation
but that takes less than 4s
can't swap into verina too cuz then swap cooldown comes into the picture
Want 100% Yinlin uptime?
For more stacks and more Yinlin dmg
The problem is it extends rotation
Imho the 34s rotation might have more dps
Is Jue good for spectro rover?
better than aix
its funny cause aix is actually one of the better echoes
its fast, deals high damage and be canceled instantly
but its already crept
It's an op summon
So ye
Jue has 0 cast animation, does big aoe dmg
Oh hey the free 10 pull
Ok talents are actually done for now
Cdmg x2aero x2atk (and sig)
140 er wer? 
With my er cyan instead
50% rate
i remember when people were acting like lingyang being rate up was a conspiracy theory
u can buy from shop
nah im good
whats her s1 and s2 again
S1 80% dmg bonus for her nuke
S2 recovers full stack after staying out of combat for more than 4s
ohh
Isnt a limited copy worth 360 coral things
Maybe I’m thinking of something else
360 corals = about 50 rolls (45 by price but you get more coral refund from pulling as well)
meta wise and longetivity wise, is changli a better pick than jinhsi
Good question
changli has a buff outro i guess
while jinhsi is straight dps
they will probably both be crept pretty quickly though so i wouldnt worry too much about "longevity"
i thought i saw calcs where changli out-dpses encore in encore+changli comps and it made me wonder lol
As long as you clear tower I dont think it really matters yet
In another year when we see if tower enemies are 30% stronger or same stats, and jiyan hsi etc cant clear anymore … who knows
well encore's a standard
jinhsi is pretty obvious top for dps atm though
yeah i guess
Did you get cons or s0r1?
S0R1
Otherwise, just so you know, S2 works only when whole team is completely out combat
For ToA it'll only work for the starting rotation
IMHO, hyperfocusing on outro skill makes you lose sight of other things
idk what that means but sure
Meta-wise Verina is the best
im sure i know how hyped u were when u saw that 21 cdmg
IKR
I was like "plz just let me get 1 more crit I'd take it even if it's min"
but no

look at this 10.5 cr 
I mean the rider one was usable but not long term
this is so 🔥
this bitch

gimme echo luck
tbh
I wanted to prefarm for Changli
but like
rider keeps giving me cdmg
crate not found
and the rare crate ones are all trash at +10

I had more but I trashed some
also do u know who works best with changli

probably Encore
mine

I stopped fusion awhile ago tho
but ykw
I might
get atk% for her
cuz Changli seems like hsi
has too much dmg% on her hand
I need to offset it with atk

nah

echoes rolling moment
im halfway done for changli
(tho this is only for lvl 80)
the amount needed for 90 is insane
Man atk buffs make crazy difference
Jinhsi yinlin and best I got was 124k nuke
Tried jinshi mort (who has moonlit and 5* pistol) to free yinlin for first half tower and got to 154k nuke instead
Also though lv70 hsi with lv5 talents
Can actually farm for her now that jiyan is done
if you have S6 mortefi then that gives another 20% atk buff from his alt
I calculated this to see which team gave how much buffs
S6 Mortefi - 12% dmg (echo) + 22.5% atk (echo set) + 20% atk (lib) = 12% dmg + 44.5% atk
S0 Verina - 10% dmg (echo) + 15% atk (echo set) + 20% atk (passive) + 15% amplfy (outro) = 35% atk + 10% dmg + 15% amplfy
Total Buffs to Jinhsi after rotation - 79.5% atk + 22% dmg + 15% amplfy
Ah yeah
verina with bell and rejuv
s6 mort with moonlit heron and pistol
Though I guess it ends up being
Yinlins personal dmg vs mort buffing Jinhsi dmg
doesnt mortefi only buff HA
You still get his moonlit heron & s6 atk buffs regardless
thats his outro
hey anyone here gonna pull Changli? i dont have much info over her so i was wondering .. how is her playstyle? like is she basic atk kind dps? heavy atk? from echos what am i supposed to aim? 
Basic with her skills weaved in?
You can try her out in the 1.1 story
most of her dmg is skill dmg
well issue was .. enemies died too fast for me to try .. i didnt realise that would be all 
basically u want to get her forte to 4 stacks
and then heavy attack
which can be done in 3 ways
crit rate? but doesnt she gain some insane CR from passive? or something?
ult (gives 4 stacks), skill (gives 1), chain of basic (gives 1)
depends on which weapon
if u use the standard 5* use cd
if u get sig/ use 4* use cr
i got standard 5* yea 
Not at s0
Passive talent cr is 8% total from the 4 nodes
She gains a bunch of fusion dmg off her skill(or ult? idk)
if u use cr with standard 5* u might even overcap which is 
Standard sword is 24%, passive cr is 8%
Cdmg rider if you have cr on 4/5 echos should get you to ~65 cr easily
frigin hell i m pretty sure i saw %36 c.rate increase for 4?6? seconds or something somewhere
wha
what character even get 36% cr 😭
She has cr on s2
mh from genshin 
But I think 25%
Hrover s6? But thats also 25% cr
yea
frigin hell i m tripin i guess

getting too old that i started to imagine kits that doesnt exists
i m cooked fr

Lol
poor soul
How much fusion% does changli gain off skills?
I wonder if she’ll want fusion atk for 3costs like jinhsi can use
Dependant on subs ofc
bdw what team would be more ideal for Changli atm? 🤔
Morfeti? as she buffs fusion dmg nd burst dmg but that effect dissapears when that character is switched off as well afaik 
ok i got Encore built to some degree nice 
also am i the only one that hardly ever uses Encore in her burst mode? 
i use her more of a quick swap sub dps like chara man
Cant wait to get a second support
Every team is like
2 +verina


like whatever team i end up using Verina always there 
alternate is goofy for me 
i gonna slap whatever i got at hand but ngl my fusion pieces are kinda 🚮
frigin hell getting good pieces are frigin hard and costy asf
as you have to roll on everything till they are winners 
just dont lose fr 
i dont know how in the world ppl gets good pieces bru
how to not lose 
omg how did i not think that
biggest enlightenment of my life

You just roll 100 echoes instead of farming talents
I may have lv4-5 skills but at least I have 60-70/230 ratio on all 5 of my used dps chars 
thats what i been doing man 
not been farming talents much at all
only Yinlin has her talents upgraded .. a bit on Encore nd Verina
When I’m actually looking for echos though
If I dont have 2 subs from cd cdmg + atk% atk er by lv15 its over
ive been doing talents ever seen i reached UL 50 lol
at 35 runs rn
Also yeah I didnt want to farm talents pre ul50 too
I’ll wait for ul60 to go for lv80 weapons tbh
Farm talents (and the credits for em) til then
weapon levels give more stats than characters 
I can level 3 talents with the gold mats required to get 1 weapon from 70 to 70/80
I’m already at ul53 or something
And have 5 chars to finish talents on
usually only 1-2 matters on each char
atk% nodes are shit
ass value wise
3 golds for 2.4% atk

i'd rather roll echoes
- weapon upgrades are permanent
u can stop using the character
but weapon can just be passed on
which is goodge
i cant beat the feilian beringal king
well i beat it as sanhua
got bopped as yinlin though
i m still not UL50 yet .. close to it tho
Echo farming in this game is a grind
hell noooooo
they gave 1/2 pull for main quest bug
I demand a 10 pull for quest and an additional 10 pull for the damage they caused with the 1/2 pull
I love sanhua
But I am not skilled enough to use her weird forte things in realm
Was fun for lower difficulty though
Yinlins realm plunge skill buff & thundering mephis can pair really well
Can spam between mephis skills and it puts yinlin just high enough in the air you can plunge between each mephis
just get the one where she spams autodetonate
How is the new illusive realm for everyone?
About the same or significantly improved?
Little unfortunate, will have to see the mode for myself then
Could be missing something
Yeah purely onfield jinhsi sorta sucks in realm
But its mostly the same as before just new buffs & thundering instead of bell
We still only have three echoes?
Or rather, long enough they could be worth cancelling
danjin assist is op at least
Ive only seen rider crownless & thundering so far
Ive been unlucky then in almost 10 runs
Though I wouldnt be surprised if thundering has higher rate since its the new one & has a quest to max it
If they update it patchly with new buffs, echoes and characters it'll end up being a decent mode to pass the time
Seems that the repetitiveness is here to stay though
I like the xp we can buy
Just give me more
I already bought all the echo xp from realm shop
the trick is probably just to abuse jianjin
Jianxin was fun for sure
her crack counter becomes spammable and charges her assist instantly so you can just do counter > danjin assist > ult > spam counter + danjin assists
Her with bell too
Or rider
Maybe I dont get the right buffs but I hate crownless & thundering
You’re in soft pity now at least. Have you bought the gems from new realm shop?
Thats 6 pulls or so
i want an option where I let jinzhou gets destroyed
the town aint that beautiful anyw
what good is exploring 100 gonna do if he doesnt have gems
or jinhsi
is he gonna press calcharo or jiyan ult every time he runs into a boar lol
i was talking bout the picture
genshit has this problem too
chars needing ult to deal damage being shit in open world game
at least in star fail they added qol by having those chars usually have autocharge ult
like firefly
so you always start the fight with an ult
instead of press ult to kill a slime then you have 0% for the next fight
cal has mech abom so those mobs arent a problem
ok i cringed a little when she yelled
power of friendship
This is why Yinlin is truly T0, she AoE kills everything in the overworld fast af 
Add Havoc Rover and Dreamless and ur chilling
Okay jinhsi with rider/bell and the skill effect that makes her basics start from #3 is much better in realm
I like the one that increases her forte gauge during her BAs in her enhanced state too
My electro set is absolutely suffering from lack of atk subs 
IR is so enjoyable with all these buffs
Poor yinlin at 1.3k atk (string) while encore hrover at 1.6k & same crit ratios
Jianxin is really fun in IR with bell
I wish they made the rewards reset weekly
I managed to get maxed bell and was smacking scar for 200k+ glacio dmg lol
Yeah I managed to get Jinhsi doing 300k+ damage with all those buffs
Srover was doing 100k dmg with his ult
Used Sanhua/Jianxin/Srover/Jiyan/Jinhsi to fulfill mission requirements
the problem si that it doesnt change her superskill cds
so you still have to afk or do stupid echo shit
jianxin is the best of the bunch imo
hopefully changli saves it
Nah I had jinhsi going so it was just skill echo ult ult then into her special skills
Barely touched verina or danjin intros
Just use jianxin
I almost afkd Diff V scar with that lmao

Like, I didn't even move
Oh is she strong in the new game mode
they'll probably nerf her for divergent realm
yeah shes probably the best char for it
Rn I'm debating
one of her things is to make her channel almost instant
Dragon lady or horny bait
so she can just spam shield
Yinlin was nuking but I haven't done the last difficulty
But my actual yinlin is built
I don't use the given one
I think it effects all because I had more hp
Then the trial one
And we were the same lv
And I'm 99% sure yinlin sig doesn't give hp
thats weird
Go to sleep. You need it!
Jinhsi is bait she's weak in illusive realm
i hit scar in illusive realm V for 500k with jinhsi and he didnt just instadie
this is so messed up
pepega
Nah of course not, bigger buffs for you meana bigger HP for the enemy in IR
how do i even get tier 4 thundering mephis in IR
i literally cannot get enough fucking green points even at lvl 5
this is so staged
You have to break open the rocks
did their frequency get nerfed since last ir
Sometimes it will have a cat = extra metaphors
i swear theres so few rocks now
I always find at least 1-2 in memories of fierce struggles
maybe ive been going to the wrong doors
Also if you're lucky, you might get a Scar encounter early and he has a chance to drop an op buff
This one, basically every time you a pick a buff from the cat, you have a chance to get another one
its a small chance and its random so it often doesnt even help
nice to have if you can get it though
the free points one too
so you can buy out the shop
right after these sets of messages i got the buff
i dont think i ever got a bonus aero thingie though
but i got lucky with the other things and rock spawns and i finally got the lvl 4 thundering mephis
thank god
I caved in and used one of my selectors, now my verina rotations are just braindead
I don't think I ever had to use her ult LMAO
edit: exaggeration
aside from iframes
It builds enough for outro just E J NA NA ?
yeah because I have r5 variation
actually whenever that gets downtime I can ult and E J NAx2 to outro
so I alternate between rot to outro, then ult -> rot to outro, then repeat
Can't wait to get my jinhsi and RC1 her with the 360thingy
If I don't get her in 17 days I'm spending it all on pulls

I used all my coral on pulls for her sig lol
Was worth s0r1 over s1 imo
I’m hoping we get to see leaks of 1.2 kits before I decide on using guaranteed on hsi s1 or waiting 🤔
Skipping changli, praying 1.2 has a new support
Hmmmmm I'll think about that
The 5* weapons just have so much more atk than 4*s and you can pass them around for tower easily








