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neat robin
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I see

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Was gonna say I’m doing something wrong if I’m supposed to get gold drops every couple runs lol

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I still dont think weapons past 70 are worth it quite yet
Idk

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Thatd be 300+ stam just to go 70->80, I think?

burnt brook
rotund drum
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thats not that much

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and you can move them around

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better than spending tons of rsc leveling up jinhsi only to have her be crept in 1.2

night mantle
night mantle
neat robin
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Maybe nobody cares. I’m levelling the cares I actually want to play

rotund drum
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there's a reason people call PGR Powercreep Gotham Racing

blissful tulip
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PGR's powercreep isn't fast individually, though, characters can last over 1.5 years

neat robin
blissful tulip
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And you do get enough BC in order to obtain every newcomer

neat robin
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Flautist or heron as main echo for yinlin?
I have tempest which works for cal team but its too slow gaining concerto for jinhsi

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I think botht he electro 3costs give concerto at least..

rotund drum
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lumiscale imo

neat robin
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That thing can be electro set?

outer jetty
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Btw for duplicate how many starglitter you get

rotund drum
outer jetty
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Oh 3 for 4* and 15 for 5*

neat robin
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Hmmm would need to find a double crit to replace a current echo….

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I’ll just toss on flautist main for her in jinhsi team atm

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Busy hunting a spectro echo I need one with cdmg and er

knotty fiber
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For games like GI and HSR which WuWa is based off, the powercreep is quite false

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It's mostly the stage and buff that give the "powercreep" feel

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No new character is even 1.5 times stronger than any early released unit

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They're arguably inferior in some certain contents too

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Well except for the new Hutao vs Arlecchino one E_pepelol

outer jetty
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Based on accumulated percentage need 570 ish pulls to get a limited waveband from shop using corals A_smolhutao
That is like 7 patches of saving I guess.

knotty fiber
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What

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Nahhh I didn't even pull that many

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And that's without any S6 4* too

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I did probably 200 lims and 100 std for 360 corals

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No offrate

outer jetty
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Currently have like 130 corals for just 1.0 164 pulls

knotty fiber
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Offrate gives extra 30

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Also the current pace is 100 pulls/patch as f2p

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For whether or not they're staying this way, idk

outer jetty
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I guess beginner banner and freebie help give a lot corals

knotty fiber
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1 gold gives 15 coral regardless of being first acquisition or not

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Beginner 1, beginner 2, free pick, and weapon banner

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those 4 alr give you 60 corals from gold alone

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Not even accounting for purps

outer jetty
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I checked astrite.gg history and yup that track with my current corals. But after early freebie pulls the rate gonna slow down.

night mantle
outer jetty
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Around 468 pulls on limited banner then, assuming no S6

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Huh close enough to my corals rate

clear tartan
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I feel like in about 2 patches, Blue wishes will be kinda worthless compared to now

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A combination of having only 2 good standard 5 stars characters (that you can guarantee), Generous premium weap banner, and the free standard weap selector.

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And also you can freely switch weapons between characters in Tower

rotund drum
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you're still going to need like 300 blue fates

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if you want all the 5* weapons

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assuming you dont sack super hard

clear tartan
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Why would you need all the standard 5 star weaps if you wanna go for premium weaps anyways

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Especially the 5 star standard weapons that have ATK mainstat

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I guess it would help tho if your subdps has the same weapon type as main dps

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Like Yinlin Encore

rotund drum
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not everyone's a whale who can afford every sig

clear tartan
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Just need 1 of each weapon type

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And you can swap them around

rotund drum
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crit sub is always nice but eventually you'll want stuff with a matching passive

clear tartan
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Eh maybe, Jiyan's weap rn is p good for Jinhsi even if 16% or so off from the calcs I've seen

rotund drum
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some of the e6 standard eidolons are pretty decent too

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e6 jianxin looks pretty worth if you can get it

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it basically turns her into korwa

clear tartan
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Guess so, and Verina S2 is a nice boost as well

rotund drum
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they never actually fixed lingyang rates being rigged either i think

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so eventually everyone will have e6 lingyang

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he seems like he might actually become an ok dps at e6

clear tartan
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lingyang rates are rigged?

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ngl he is the only standard 5 star I don't have

rotund drum
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yeah he was like 50% of the total 5* pool at launch

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some people were tracking it

clear tartan
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Lmao I don't believe that

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More likely Lingyang is just the most "Memorable" to get

rotund drum
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well there's response bias i guess

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when i was rerolling i got him like 4 or 5 times i think though

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and i got him twice while rolling for danjin

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so i believe it

clear tartan
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For me of my 10 rerolls I only got him once, rest was Encore with a smattering of Verina or Jianxin

opal venture
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Very soon A_smolhutao

clear tartan
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Zamn Yuanwu Taoqi

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That's my dream team too for Jinhsi

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What's your refinement level on Taoqi's Discord?

opal venture
rotund drum
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hopefully the new simulated universe saves whoever they added to it

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if jiyan is any indication jinhsi will be mid for it

winged belfry
clear tartan
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Is it really like that?

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In HSR

winged belfry
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For example Acheron gets like 53% jump from F2P BiS to Sig S1

clear tartan
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Bruh

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Tho surely its not needed to clear whatever they have

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If so well uh yea then its a problem

winged belfry
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And it appears like Yunli straight up doesn't work consistently without her Sig

clear tartan
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Hows the banner rate for Lightcones?

winged belfry
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80, 75:25

clear tartan
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Yikes

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Welp Im just happy weap banner here is guaranteed lmao

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I remember rolling for Grasscutter and getting Aquila

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Feels so bad

rotund drum
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its because lightcones in hsr dont have substats

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its just the base atk and the passive

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so if the passive isnt good its literally a dead cone

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acheron in particular is dumb because she has incredibly specific requirements to work that arent part of her base kit

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so she has to get cons + sig to compenate

forest dome
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smh 4 off rate chixia and 1 danjin

clear tartan
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Give me your offrate Chixia, I want to build her one day fr

forest dome
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need 1 more for s6

clear tartan
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Only at S1 rn A_GaspTao

ripe pollen
weary acorn
grim grove
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Is Jue worth farming for Spectro Rovee?

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Or is Mourning Aix still best

burnt shoal
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is so funny seeing niche effects already at 1.0 in star rail

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like bronya lc buff only works for the following ally making a turn after skill

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wonder what genshin would be like if effects were already like that from the start

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oh wuwa lounge so ig wuwa more like genshin rip

weary acorn
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It's not even interesting it's just there

clear stump
clear tartan
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???

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Can you send a source

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Literally haven't heard of this ever

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Like unless im super lucky I never noticed it ever when rerolling

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If anything I should be asking if Encore was rigged cus I got her 8/11 rerolls

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I would think rigging a Gacha system would have made way more waves

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But I haven't even seen this in r/Gachagaming

robust axle
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Its not rigged

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Ppl just mad they got lingyang

clear tartan
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Yeah that's what im thinking too

knotty fiber
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50% of my rerolling was Encore but I still don't think it's rigged

cobalt cobalt
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I haven’t gotten Lingyang once on the beginner pool

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80% was jianxin though

neat robin
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I didnt reroll but I had s1 calcharo before getting any other standard

cobalt apex
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i also dont have lingyang

weary acorn
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The lingyang thing is confirmation bias E_pepelol

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Ur obviously gonna be getting him at ur early beginner since it's literally what 5 of them there?

limber imp
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Help why is my wuwa account acting like my genshin account

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First five star I thought I wanted (yinlin=Hu Tao) but lost 50/50

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Then found one that I actually liked

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(Yae miko and changli)

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And they kinda switched elements

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First one I wanted was pyro but I got an electro after that that I wanted

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First one I wanted was electro but then getting a fusion that I want

night mantle
cobalt apex
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my account is so rigged got 1 gold in 22 runs

kind turtle
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FUCK I ACCIDENTALLY ASTRITE REFRESHED

outer jetty
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Well spentA_BaldTaoO

rotund drum
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i cant beat the super mourning aix

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spectro res lol

lament shuttle
rotund drum
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at all

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although i havent tried

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you dont get anything for non-dorito i think

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unless you have non-dorito on a different floor too

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im waiting for the free fates to see if i can get at least a helios cleaver or a lustrous razor before i decide whether to go in on the sig

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right now im still using the craftable ER greatsword and i dont want to waste any more mats on it

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it was good enough for 3-dorito on the other side though so its really just aix being dumb

lament shuttle
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My calchero isn’t invested enough to do it but it’s definitely possible

rotund drum
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i dont have yinlin and my calcharo isnt built

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i could try it with encore but its probably more productive to just bruteforce it with jinhsi

lament shuttle
rotund drum
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rather than spending rsc on mid

lament shuttle
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But only 2 dorito

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I’m curious to see the c6 spectro mc tech on right side, haven’t seen anything about it

rotund drum
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iirc super aix has 40% spectro res so jinhsi needs to be considerably beefier to compensate vs other elements

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although its jinhsi so she can likely make up that diff

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just need to finish leveling her up

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i dont think her BA, skill or minor traces are really worth leveling all the way but ult might be

lament shuttle
rotund drum
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i think r5 craftable gs is actually not tha tmuch worse than r1 helios since the better passive somewhat makes up the diff

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and cubes are easy to get in this game it seems

rotund drum
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it deals like 150% damage lmao

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crit is fine but its a lot of mats

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for like a 5% overall increase

lament shuttle
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It is a lot of mats yeah but she’s a hyper carry

rotund drum
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still gotta prioritize since its early game

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i think they're giving away a bunch of free fates starting tomorrow so i'll wait and see what i get

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if i can get a helios i'll build that, otherwise i may consider spending primogems on the sig

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i still have the selector box too but i'd rather save that for the sword or pistol

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is the standard weapon banner guaranteed on the one you pick or is it still a 50/50

lament shuttle
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I’m close to second pity on it not. Sure what to pick between pistol, a second sword or a broadsword

rotund drum
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the sword and pistol will be decent for anyone who can actually use it in the future although maybe not worth holding out for right at the start

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broadsword is probably fine fi you want to pick it for free but its basically just a base atk statstick

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the passive and substat are both kinda bad

lament shuttle
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Yep

rotund drum
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tbf midhsi also gets way too much dmg bonus so her sig isnt actually as good as it looks either

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other than having crit substat

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skill damage is generally safe though and its a lot of skill damage so it should be close to bis for any other broadsword dps in the future

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high base low sub is probably better than vice versa in this game since base on weapon contributes a considerably bigger percentage of your stat total than in genshit

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the standard rectifer is mega ass lol

knotty fiber
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Rigged

cobalt apex
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soon enough ill be hitting 0.01 gold per run ratio

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😭

neat robin
night mantle
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who the hell said jinhsi's sig is not good?

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Jinhsi's signature and best in slot weapon granting an exceptional amount of Crit Rate, Resonance Skill DMG% and DMG% all stats that amplify Jinhsi's damage tremendously. This weapon handily beats out all of the competition without trouble. One thing to note when using this weapon is that due to the sheer amount of DMG% Jinhsi has from her kit, echoes and this weapon it means she can comparatively gain higher value than usual when stacking ATK %, specifically on her 3 cost echoes instead of Spectro %.
edgy cobalt
rotund drum
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the crit mainstat is the big sell

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the dmg bonus is fine but overall less important

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crit mainstat and high base

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the latter being why the standard 5* is also good

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iirc atk mainstat echo is still only very slightly better than dmg mainstat even with all those things though

lament shuttle
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It’s only better at like c4 or c6 iirc

knotty fiber
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the fact that she has too much dmg bonus is never a good reason to

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bro acts like atk% cost 3 doesn't exist

lament shuttle
dense elbow
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she gets a lot of everything rly omegalul

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assuming sig anyways

lament shuttle
knotty fiber
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it's ironically good, 44 that is

dense elbow
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i can ask her later if u want

knotty fiber
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cuz crit is a huge stat in this

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there's not a lot of crit sources

lament shuttle
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I don’t have. C6 but it’s still curious

dense elbow
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idr it being so close at s0 tho

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but id have to check grims sheets again

knotty fiber
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I don't think it's better than 43311 atkatk tho

fickle kernel
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grim is tcing wuwa ?

knotty fiber
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at least pre S3

dense elbow
fickle kernel
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oh

dense elbow
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thats prydwens numbers for her

lament shuttle
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Well it never points out 4/4/1/1/1 as being better

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Unless I can’t read

night mantle
knotty fiber
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S0 it seems

lament shuttle
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I they only show s0

knotty fiber
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for Maygi calc she says 44111 better even at S0

knotty fiber
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which I think is

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nah

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it can be better if you have like max rolls on dmg and atk but shit roll on crit

night mantle
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well if you have doubts, then go to her calculator and figure stuff out

knotty fiber
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I've had enough of Maygi since ToF

night mantle
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I have heard she is really good with these kind of things

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so unless she goes absolutly crazy I think I can believe her

lament shuttle
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Idk who these ppl are at all

knotty fiber
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back in ToF she was a, well, comparatively big CC for mathing stuffs

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but at the end of the day not many top rankers use her stuffs kekpat

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neither did I

lament shuttle
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This is rivineous

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But also didn’t do any past c0 calcs

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It’s like there’s Swiss cheese here

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Everyone has parts of the photo but no full picture lol

night mantle
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I would say it depends on how they calculate things

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like maygi numbers depends a lot on the rotations and performing everything at precise time

knotty fiber
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yes

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every CC has a different result depends on their rotation and stuffs

night mantle
night mantle
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hers and prydwen rotations are quite different

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in prydwen you do jinhsi complete combo first to trigger outro and then swap
she doesn't do that

lament shuttle
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I don’t feel like I’m any closer to making an informed investment decision

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I guess in the end it doesn’t actually matter for 1-4% gap since good sub stats are much more important

knotty fiber
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@cobalt apex I got to 30 runs no gold

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damn

winged belfry
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does anyone has some Changli calcs that don't include Encore?

ripe pollen
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S0R1 Jinhsi with good build BARELY being able to clear lvl 100 monke is crazy.

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Really shows how Kuro never envisioned standard 5-stars or even Jiyan / Yinlin to be able to clear it.

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Considering how strong Jinhsi is by comparison.

sterile swallow
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We finally beat wuthering waves lol
I summoned only using the free currency they gave us, and i spent all of my standard pulls on the weapon banner. As for astrites, i spent them on stamina everyday.

Do you guys want me to make a rotation guide for the teams used in the harder floor of this run? Comment down below!
Enjoy!
#towerofadversity #wut...

▶ Play video
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Meanwhile

hollow gorge
sterile swallow
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Of course I would never build Chixia, but that person did A_HuTaoWew

hollow gorge
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the fact that he could 3* Monke with such mediocre echoes says a lot

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the game is simply a question of luck. Having 2 effective sub echoes vs having 4 sub echoes is like 40-50% DPS increase. That's insane, if you consider it

lament shuttle
sterile swallow
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I can't imagine using Hrover+Danjin in center tower vs. that monkey

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But he does have solid echoes on Hrover so there is some investment

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Also talent Lv8 for Hrover's forte/skill/liberation, plus all stat nodes maxed

lament shuttle
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its on 4/4/1/1/1 tho

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they are solid

sterile swallow
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That's fine considering Danjin's outro buff

lament shuttle
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I was wondering how he was 65/316

hollow gorge
sterile swallow
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True, center tower supporting both Jinhsi's and Hrover's nukes

hollow gorge
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also Calcharo A_GaspTao

sterile swallow
knotty fiber
cobalt apex
knotty fiber
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it has guarantee purple

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and that's it

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the gold rate is garbage

neat robin
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Even with this dogwater echo still
Basically 4/5 pieces only

knotty fiber
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even less than what I got when I was 40

ripe pollen
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she's just that useful

cobalt apex
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i also got more golds in UL40

burnt shoal
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i heard that for jinhsi double atk goblet is better than double spectro is that true

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cause tc says jinhsi has too much dmg bonus

neat robin
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It depends on weapon
And subs

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Without sig you’ll prob want double spectro
Maybe atk spec if you have great subs

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With sig youd want atk spec
Unless having two really good spec%

knotty fiber
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For me it's probably most optimal with 1 spectro 1 atk, cuz I alr got a lot of atk subs

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Buffers also provide her atk% buffs

frank timber
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tired of everything

neat robin
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Looks nice though

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Double crit?

frank timber
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yeah

neat robin
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Anyone have a mining route for the echo xp crafting?

edgy cobalt
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44111 clearing toa pog

frank timber
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21/30 for now

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we do be progressing

clear tartan
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I didn't realize it until now, but Jue makes an updraft

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Time to try out Midair Jue + Grapple and see just how far up Jinhsi can attack enemies from C_HutaoYEP

frank timber
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80/230 is possible if only i have one crit on 1 cost

neat robin
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Just gonna pretend my cal doesnt exist

frank timber
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thats a lot of atk, im jelly

neat robin
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Yeah

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With lv70 sig

frank timber
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damn

neat robin
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All of them have lv70 5* weapons actually so I got that extra crit

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I basically spent the entire first month just farming aero stuff

rotund drum
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lol center tower is easier than left tower

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still one dorito short though

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may need to spend money

winged belfry
winged belfry
olive osprey
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Jiyan can clear the middle tower though?

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But yeah once we get to UL60 and unlock lvl 90, 30* all the towers will be ez

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At that point i want other endgame content

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We are getting roguelikes every patch

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But it's not enough

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Can only wait and see what combat events/endgame modes kuro will cook up later, and hope they actually require player skill

night mantle
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Hmm lets see lvl90

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I watch a CC he will be ul60 today...he has 27 stars I think

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chixia and jiyan are the main dps for him

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lets see how much increase he gets

lament shuttle
olive osprey
rotund drum
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he doesnt benefit from the tower buff at all

lament shuttle
outer jetty
rotund drum
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is it calcharo

outer jetty
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Random NPC Xunwei

lament shuttle
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In German

lament shuttle
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I mean that was the case last rotation when the buff in left side helped him a lot too

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But maybe 10 extra lvls will let him clutch it up

olive osprey
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70 seconds and 120 seconds, 10% dmg res and 40% dmg res

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Ill try to find a vid later on bilibili when i have the time

sterile swallow
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Not sure if a Lv80 s0r1 Jiyan can clear the center tower monkey fast enough thanks to its innate aero resistance? He would easily sweep the initial set of mobs though, but rip his damage once Ape spawns in

rotund drum
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i cant even beat superaix with jinhsi thanks to its spectro res

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doubt jiyan is clearing shit

sterile swallow
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The buffs also don't benefit him since its 60% resonance/liberation damage bonus, and his damage scales off Heavy Attacks

rotund drum
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maybe whale jiyan

lament shuttle
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I can ask my c6 jiyan friends if it’s doable

rotund drum
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jiyan would be mega cope if he cant clear at c6

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even with aero res

winged belfry
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Whale doesn't mean good skills

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Or proper builds

olive osprey
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Iirc the dmg formula for 40% and 10% res is still the same, enemy just receives 60% dmg instead of 90%?

neat robin
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s1 verina instead of s1 jinhsi bceCry2Sad2

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Solid 0/4 5050s won my average 5* pity is like 40 though

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I also think I want a cr dreamless on rover for now (until we can get s6 havoc) 60 cr is not enough. Miss too many ults

knotty fiber
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also

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grouping stage is always harder than single boss stage

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rather than asking why they can't do it, why not try it for yourself

keen aspen
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what is this? i cant seem to interact with it

knotty fiber
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the green one

keen aspen
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ah.. got it thanks

knotty fiber
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you need to meet the NPC first

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she's here

night mantle
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man free pulls are too late

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I am at 64 pull on weapon banner need those 10 pulls

keen aspen
night mantle
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4/6/10

burnt shoal
night mantle
uneven flame
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Is the quest in Mt. Firm "Lores Beyond the Ranges" playable or did I just somehow miss it after clearing the entire map besides one frostbug I have to find later.

oak copper
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I may wanna look for a CD Inferno Rider A_ThinkTao

dense elbow
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definitely if you can get CR sub on it at minimum

oak copper
ripe pollen
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and yeah you desperately need cdmg

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and also atk

night mantle
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they fixed mephis perry bug

blissful tulip
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Took them quite some time

olive osprey
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I was wrong, couldnt find S0 Jiyan tower 3* clear on monkey lmao

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Aero dmg res was too much

olive osprey
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Looks like i cant just hyperinvest in 1 unit yet

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F

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Once an enemy with taht dmg res comes out ill get fucked

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If i could only invest in 2 main dps and easily clear endgame content

limber imp
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So what teammate should I add for changli and verina

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Here are all my characters

candid plume
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if u have Discord

limber imp
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I don’t

candid plume
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Havoc Rover, then

limber imp
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Wait rlly?

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She she a main Dps tho

candid plume
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yeah play double dps

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it's good

limber imp
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Wouldnt calcharo then be better?

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Considering he’s my current highest investment Dps

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And I have the standard weapon

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I don’t have good swords

candid plume
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When she comes out, it'll be easier to say if she works well with Calcharo

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right now, I can say that Hrv Changli should be a safe bet

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that it will work well

limber imp
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Alr

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What ab jianxin btw

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She gives 38% burst damage

candid plume
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she's definitely an option, but Changli's damage is benefited by skill bonuses

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not liberation bonuses

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if u wanna play Jianxin Changli though, go ahead, the grouping is worth it when against aoe

candid plume
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@dense elbow #・tc-bot-spam message
Here's a question: Can this possibly be worth doing. Is it a worthwhile trade to go from 30s rotation to 35s rotation to get 100% uptime on Yinlin coordinated attacks

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obviouslsy I'm subtracting the time the boss stalls by moving away and attacking

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at 38:20 on the ingame timer (0:31 in the video) she already has 70% of her forte

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so she could possibly do it 2 times every rotation

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if my Jinhsi was built I'd be able to check if it was worthwhile but she's lvl 40 and I want to get 27 stars before I even think about building her

candid plume
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there's 2 factors here that could justify the rotation extention right? More stacks and more Yinlin dmg

candid plume
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that seems absurd to me

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I haven't played her a lot but I cannot grasp how any rotation with her can be less than 16 + 12 = 28s long

knotty fiber
candid plume
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for me, a single Jinhsi uptime takes about 8s

rotund drum
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are you including the time it takes for yinlin herself to rotate

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you could precharge her mark i guess but lol

candid plume
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regarding the video I showed or my disbelief about rotation time in that sheet?

burnt brook
night mantle
knotty fiber
candid plume
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reminds me of the fact that we should get compensation for Monke running away in 1.1

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that is a huge bug

night mantle
candid plume
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12 is the setup time

rotund drum
candid plume
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5s for Verina, 7s for Yinlin

rotund drum
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im thinking shielder yuanwu actually

#

his s4 gives him a really fat shield

night mantle
rotund drum
#

albeit kinda short duration

#

good enough for stuff like moc though i guess

#

atm jinhsi uses the healer as her buffer anyway so shields arent as important but that may change

night mantle
#

though I would say her rotations are exactly pin point on time and definately hard to perform ir.

candid plume
#

are you suggesting that the 23.3s rotation is achievable ingame?

#

like against a dummy

night mantle
#

definately hard to perform ir. - No I am not!

candid plume
#

I get that it won't actually happen

#

but like theoretically if we had a dummy

#

that it could be performed at all

#

from my undertsanding, unless Verina is with Variation, which sadly mine is not, she cannot possibly rotate faster than 5s

night mantle
#

then add 5s to every rotation of her A_HuTaoShrug

kind turtle
#

fuck this game

candid plume
#

Yinlin even with all the swap cancels cannot possibly do 2 double E's, cancel her echo and build her forte in less than 5s

#

and from my testing a Jinhsi intro E E N4 E takes about 8s

#

I say about, but it's exactly 8s in the video I presented

kind turtle
#

I HATE THESE

barren drift
#

low roll but its okay

kind turtle
night mantle
candid plume
#

so like can it possibly be shorter than 8 (Jinhsi) * 2 + 5 + 5 = 26s?

kind turtle
#

oh and fuck you at the end

night mantle
rotund drum
#

good yuanwu piece

#

oh i was scrolled up

#

discord not defaulting to newest message is sus

knotty fiber
#

and no, atk% is a good roll

kind turtle
#

its a good roll

#

but

knotty fiber
#

it's only below crit

kind turtle
#

it means i dont get double crit

knotty fiber
#

which is why

#

you don't continue when you see 2 useless rolls on 1st and 2nd rolls

kind turtle
#

i usually dont

#

but i want to cope sometimes

knotty fiber
#

waste of tuners and xp

#

see

#

your own fault

#

put up with it

kind turtle
#

i've got 620 purps and 100 gold

#

im ok

knotty fiber
#

sure

#

could have had more if I didn't do yolo rolls

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cuz most of my yolo rolls went wrong

rotund drum
#

just ebay your yolo rolls

candid plume
#

@night mantle #・tc-bot-spam message
isn't that supposed to be 10, 25 and 15 instead?

#

25 because 1 electromagnetic blast is 5 extra on top of the 20 that Lib gives

#

#・tc-bot-spam message
source is wuthering wiki

rotund drum
#

i cant beat the super mourning aix

#

guess im continuing to build midcore

#

40% spectro res lol

#

i cant use jinhsi for all the hard stages anyway so i need to have at least one more dps

#

center tower is actually relatively easy so if i can get one more dorito that'll be enough for this week i think

#

not gonna try autismoing for 27 or 30

night mantle
#

but S6 yinlin is correct

#

strange

candid plume
neat robin
#

I need a havoc wolf or tamborinist
And with cr cdmg/atk%
Gonna take forever

night mantle
#

Hmm..she said she just fixed it

rough brook
night mantle
opaque flume
#

What are good supports for changli

opaque flume
candid plume
#

I tested both rotations and it's 28s vs 34s roughly

#

one has 18s uptime on Yinlin forte, other has 100% uptime A_HmmTao

#

the weird thing is that there's a 4s downtime between Jinhsi dmg windows (since her intro takes about 1s off the 5s cd her E has when her first dmg window ends) where ur kinda left doing nothing

#

sure, u can Yinlin intro E Lib E dash forte in the 28s rotation

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but that takes less than 4s

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can't swap into verina too cuz then swap cooldown comes into the picture

winged belfry
#

Why would you want that?

#

For double Yinlin ult per rotation?

candid plume
#

For more stacks and more Yinlin dmg

#

The problem is it extends rotation

candid plume
rotund drum
#

hopefully these new fates get me danjin

#

inb4 another fuckboy

#

yangyang lol

grim grove
#

Is Jue good for spectro rover?

rotund drum
#

better than aix

#

its funny cause aix is actually one of the better echoes

#

its fast, deals high damage and be canceled instantly

#

but its already crept

ripe pollen
#

So ye

#

Jue has 0 cast animation, does big aoe dmg

neat robin
#

Oh hey the free 10 pull

neat robin
#

Ok talents are actually done for now
Cdmg x2aero x2atk (and sig)

neat robin
forest dome
#

lingyang early jumpscared

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ig no s2 jinhsi then

rotund drum
#

50% rate

#

i remember when people were acting like lingyang being rate up was a conspiracy theory

burnt shoal
forest dome
#

nah im good

burnt shoal
#

its only worth 30 pulls equivalent in shop

#

ig u can get it some other time

knotty fiber
#

her S2 is trash

burnt shoal
#

whats her s1 and s2 again

knotty fiber
#

S1 80% dmg bonus for her nuke

#

S2 recovers full stack after staying out of combat for more than 4s

burnt shoal
#

ohh

knotty fiber
#

S1 is okay, you can change your build accordingly

#

but S2 is nuh uh

neat robin
#

Maybe I’m thinking of something else

knotty fiber
#

360 corals = about 50 rolls (45 by price but you get more coral refund from pulling as well)

dusty crown
#

meta wise and longetivity wise, is changli a better pick than jinhsi

lilac hare
#

Good question

rotund drum
#

changli has a buff outro i guess

#

while jinhsi is straight dps

#

they will probably both be crept pretty quickly though so i wouldnt worry too much about "longevity"

dusty crown
#

i thought i saw calcs where changli out-dpses encore in encore+changli comps and it made me wonder lol

neat robin
#

As long as you clear tower I dont think it really matters yet
In another year when we see if tower enemies are 30% stronger or same stats, and jiyan hsi etc cant clear anymore … who knows

knotty fiber
#

1:03 run

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hmmge

rotund drum
#

jinhsi is pretty obvious top for dps atm though

dusty crown
#

yeah i guess

neat robin
knotty fiber
winged belfry
# burnt shoal ohh

Otherwise, just so you know, S2 works only when whole team is completely out combat

#

For ToA it'll only work for the starting rotation

winged belfry
rotund drum
#

idk what that means but sure

olive osprey
#

Meta-wise Verina is the best

knotty fiber
#

@cobalt apex failed cooking

#

I needed crit rate the most cuz it's cdmg cost 4

cobalt apex
#

im sure i know how hyped u were when u saw that 21 cdmg

knotty fiber
#

IKR

#

I was like "plz just let me get 1 more crit I'd take it even if it's min"

#

but no

cobalt apex
#

i mean...

#

is this for encore?

knotty fiber
#

yeah

#

not for Changli

#

ain't no way Changli is using cdmg main

cobalt apex
#

changli would be cooked with a cdmg one C_KEKTao

#

im just prefarming atm

knotty fiber
#

I used half of the tuners I got from event

#

and haven't got anything usable yet

cobalt apex
#

look at this 10.5 cr C_TaoHehe

knotty fiber
#

I mean the rider one was usable but not long term

cobalt apex
#

this is so 🔥

knotty fiber
#

gimme echo luck

knotty fiber
#

I wanted to prefarm for Changli

#

but like

#

rider keeps giving me cdmg

#

crate not found

#

and the rare crate ones are all trash at +10

cobalt apex
#

i have prefarmed 0 rider

#

i hate that dude

knotty fiber
#

I had more but I trashed some

cobalt apex
#

i have 15 fusion wolves

#

7 salamanders and 6 vheron

#

(hopefully enough Copium )

knotty fiber
#

I'm kind of done with Changli cost 3

#

not for Encore tho

cobalt apex
knotty fiber
#

probably Encore

knotty fiber
#

I stopped fusion awhile ago tho

#

but ykw

#

I might

#

get atk% for her

#

cuz Changli seems like hsi

#

has too much dmg% on her hand

#

I need to offset it with atk

cobalt apex
knotty fiber
#

@cobalt apex

#

AGAIN facepalmcri

#

fuck me man

#

this feels like such a huge bait

#

am I biting

cobalt apex
#

u will win

#

trust

#

believe in urself

knotty fiber
cobalt apex
knotty fiber
#

huge bait

#

that couldn't have been a bigger bait

cobalt apex
#

echoes rolling moment

knotty fiber
#

now it keeps giving me def and hp

#

lmao

#

out of creds

cobalt apex
#

now farm cred

knotty fiber
#

nah

#

I'm camping tacet til next week

cobalt apex
#

im halfway done for changli

#

(tho this is only for lvl 80)

#

the amount needed for 90 is insane

night mantle
#

2 more days for weapon pulls

neat robin
#

Man atk buffs make crazy difference

#

Jinhsi yinlin and best I got was 124k nuke
Tried jinshi mort (who has moonlit and 5* pistol) to free yinlin for first half tower and got to 154k nuke instead

#

Also though lv70 hsi with lv5 talents
Can actually farm for her now that jiyan is done

night mantle
#

I calculated this to see which team gave how much buffs

#
S6 Mortefi - 12% dmg (echo) + 22.5% atk (echo set) + 20% atk (lib) = 12% dmg + 44.5% atk

S0 Verina -  10% dmg (echo) + 15% atk (echo set) + 20% atk (passive) + 15% amplfy (outro) = 35% atk + 10% dmg + 15% amplfy

Total Buffs to Jinhsi after rotation - 79.5% atk + 22% dmg + 15% amplfy 
neat robin
#

Ah yeah

#

verina with bell and rejuv
s6 mort with moonlit heron and pistol

#

Though I guess it ends up being
Yinlins personal dmg vs mort buffing Jinhsi dmg

night mantle
#

yeah you can say that

#

mortefi works for me coz my yinlin goes with calch

rotund drum
#

doesnt mortefi only buff HA

neat robin
#

You still get his moonlit heron & s6 atk buffs regardless

night mantle
high spindle
#

hey anyone here gonna pull Changli? i dont have much info over her so i was wondering .. how is her playstyle? like is she basic atk kind dps? heavy atk? from echos what am i supposed to aim? A_HuTaoSip

neat robin
#

Basic with her skills weaved in?
You can try her out in the 1.1 story

cobalt apex
#

most of her dmg is skill dmg

high spindle
neat robin
#

Oop

#

Fusion set, cr x2fusion x2atk

cobalt apex
#

basically u want to get her forte to 4 stacks

#

and then heavy attack

#

which can be done in 3 ways

high spindle
cobalt apex
#

ult (gives 4 stacks), skill (gives 1), chain of basic (gives 1)

cobalt apex
#

if u use the standard 5* use cd

#

if u get sig/ use 4* use cr

high spindle
neat robin
#

She gains a bunch of fusion dmg off her skill(or ult? idk)

cobalt apex
#

if u use cr with standard 5* u might even overcap which is A_HuOmegaLOL

rotund drum
#

the new danjin assist is pretty busted

#

in SU

neat robin
#

Standard sword is 24%, passive cr is 8%
Cdmg rider if you have cr on 4/5 echos should get you to ~65 cr easily

high spindle
#

frigin hell i m pretty sure i saw %36 c.rate increase for 4?6? seconds or something somewhere

high spindle
#

am i mistaking it with another char's kit

#

smh

#

😭

cobalt apex
#

what character even get 36% cr 😭

neat robin
#

She has cr on s2

cobalt apex
#

mh from genshin A_WheezeTao

neat robin
#

But I think 25%

neat robin
high spindle
#

frigin hell i m tripin i guess

#

getting too old that i started to imagine kits that doesnt exists

#

i m cooked fr

neat robin
#

Lol

cobalt apex
#

poor soul

neat robin
#

How much fusion% does changli gain off skills?

#

I wonder if she’ll want fusion atk for 3costs like jinhsi can use
Dependant on subs ofc

high spindle
#

bdw what team would be more ideal for Changli atm? 🤔

#

Morfeti? as she buffs fusion dmg nd burst dmg but that effect dissapears when that character is switched off as well afaik A_HmmTao

cobalt apex
#

encore or chixia afaik

#

but not sure

high spindle
#

also am i the only one that hardly ever uses Encore in her burst mode? A_WheezeTao

#

i use her more of a quick swap sub dps like chara man

neat robin
#

Cant wait to get a second support
Every team is like
2 +verina

high spindle
#

like whatever team i end up using Verina always there C_TaoHehe

#

alternate is goofy for me Copium

cobalt apex
#

my changli might want atk% fusion% 3 cost

#

but im too lazy to calc anything A_HuSadge

high spindle
#

i gonna slap whatever i got at hand but ngl my fusion pieces are kinda 🚮

#

frigin hell getting good pieces are frigin hard and costy asf

#

as you have to roll on everything till they are winners C_TaoHehe

cobalt apex
#

just dont lose fr C_TaoHehe

high spindle
#

i dont know how in the world ppl gets good pieces bru

high spindle
cobalt apex
#

by rolling good

high spindle
#

biggest enlightenment of my life

neat robin
#

You just roll 100 echoes instead of farming talents

#

I may have lv4-5 skills but at least I have 60-70/230 ratio on all 5 of my used dps chars C_TaoHehe

high spindle
#

thats what i been doing man A_GaspTao

#

not been farming talents much at all

#

only Yinlin has her talents upgraded .. a bit on Encore nd Verina

neat robin
#

When I’m actually looking for echos though

#

If I dont have 2 subs from cd cdmg + atk% atk er by lv15 its over

cobalt apex
#

at 35 runs rn

neat robin
#

Also yeah I didnt want to farm talents pre ul50 too

#

I’ll wait for ul60 to go for lv80 weapons tbh
Farm talents (and the credits for em) til then

cobalt apex
neat robin
#

I can level 3 talents with the gold mats required to get 1 weapon from 70 to 70/80

#

I’m already at ul53 or something
And have 5 chars to finish talents on

cobalt apex
#

usually only 1-2 matters on each char

neat robin
#

The last atk% nodes alone take 6 gold mats

#

Plus weekly drops

cobalt apex
#

atk% nodes are shit

#

ass value wise

#

3 golds for 2.4% atk

#

i'd rather roll echoes

neat robin
#

I’m pretty sure its 4% atk each

#

At least on 5* chars

cobalt apex
#
  • weapon upgrades are permanent
#

u can stop using the character

#

but weapon can just be passed on

#

which is goodge

neat robin
#

Stop using logic I dont like seeing empty spots on my talent pages

cobalt apex
#

the first one ill be maxing out

#

is changli

#

the amount needed is so absurd tho A_smolhutao

rotund drum
#

i cant beat the feilian beringal king

#

well i beat it as sanhua

#

got bopped as yinlin though

high spindle
ashen geyser
#

Echo farming in this game is a grind

night mantle
#

hell noooooo

#

they gave 1/2 pull for main quest bug

#

I demand a 10 pull for quest and an additional 10 pull for the damage they caused with the 1/2 pull

neat robin
#

I love sanhua

#

But I am not skilled enough to use her weird forte things in realm

#

Was fun for lower difficulty though

neat robin
#

Yinlins realm plunge skill buff & thundering mephis can pair really well
Can spam between mephis skills and it puts yinlin just high enough in the air you can plunge between each mephis

rotund drum
blissful tulip
#

How is the new illusive realm for everyone?

#

About the same or significantly improved?

rotund drum
#

still rigged

#

otherwise mostly the same i guess

blissful tulip
#

Little unfortunate, will have to see the mode for myself then

#

Could be missing something

rotund drum
#

jianxin is op at least

#

jinhsi kinda mid since her buffs dont do that much

neat robin
#

Yeah purely onfield jinhsi sorta sucks in realm

#

But its mostly the same as before just new buffs & thundering instead of bell

candid plume
#

Which reminds me

#

What basics of Jinhsi are swap cancellable?

blissful tulip
candid plume
#

Or rather, long enough they could be worth cancelling

rotund drum
#

danjin assist is op at least

neat robin
rotund drum
#

the others are still there

#

i did a bell run earlier

neat robin
#

Ive been unlucky then in almost 10 runs

#

Though I wouldnt be surprised if thundering has higher rate since its the new one & has a quest to max it

blissful tulip
#

If they update it patchly with new buffs, echoes and characters it'll end up being a decent mode to pass the time

#

Seems that the repetitiveness is here to stay though

neat robin
#

I like the xp we can buy

#

Just give me more

#

I already bought all the echo xp from realm shop

rotund drum
#

the trick is probably just to abuse jianjin

neat robin
#

Jianxin was fun for sure

rotund drum
#

her crack counter becomes spammable and charges her assist instantly so you can just do counter > danjin assist > ult > spam counter + danjin assists

neat robin
#

Her with bell too

#

Or rider

#

Maybe I dont get the right buffs but I hate crownless & thundering

rotund drum
#

they take too long yeah

#

i need to go back and do copelin

neat robin
#

Thundering can weave echo+plunge/skill use

#

But crownless sucks

burnt shoal
#

I'm like at 67 and guaranteed and I still don't have jinhsi

#

game is cruel

neat robin
#

You’re in soft pity now at least. Have you bought the gems from new realm shop?

#

Thats 6 pulls or so

barren drift
#

i want an option where I let jinzhou gets destroyed

#

the town aint that beautiful anyw

small bronze
#

explore 100 first though

#

cant waste all that

rotund drum
#

what good is exploring 100 gonna do if he doesnt have gems

#

or jinhsi

#

is he gonna press calcharo or jiyan ult every time he runs into a boar lol

small bronze
#

i was talking bout the picture

rotund drum
#

genshit has this problem too

#

chars needing ult to deal damage being shit in open world game

#

at least in star fail they added qol by having those chars usually have autocharge ult

#

like firefly

#

so you always start the fight with an ult

#

instead of press ult to kill a slime then you have 0% for the next fight

cobalt apex
#

cal has mech abom so those mobs arent a problem

barren drift
#

ok i cringed a little when she yelled

rotund drum
#

power of friendship

clear tartan
#

Add Havoc Rover and Dreamless and ur chilling

neat robin
#

Okay jinhsi with rider/bell and the skill effect that makes her basics start from #3 is much better in realm

sterile swallow
#

I like the one that increases her forte gauge during her BAs in her enhanced state too

neat robin
#

My electro set is absolutely suffering from lack of atk subs E_OMEGARAZOR

sterile swallow
#

IR is so enjoyable with all these buffs

neat robin
#

Poor yinlin at 1.3k atk (string) while encore hrover at 1.6k & same crit ratios

#

Jianxin is really fun in IR with bell

sterile swallow
#

I wish they made the rewards reset weekly

neat robin
#

I managed to get maxed bell and was smacking scar for 200k+ glacio dmg lol

sterile swallow
#

Yeah I managed to get Jinhsi doing 300k+ damage with all those buffs

#

Srover was doing 100k dmg with his ult

#

Used Sanhua/Jianxin/Srover/Jiyan/Jinhsi to fulfill mission requirements

rotund drum
#

so you still have to afk or do stupid echo shit

#

jianxin is the best of the bunch imo

#

hopefully changli saves it

neat robin
#

Nah I had jinhsi going so it was just skill echo ult ult then into her special skills

#

Barely touched verina or danjin intros

ashen geyser
#

Just use jianxin

#

I almost afkd Diff V scar with that lmao

#

Like, I didn't even move

rotund drum
#

yeah her shield spam is busted

#

shes in counter animation like half the time too

hasty karma
#

Oh is she strong in the new game mode

rotund drum
#

they'll probably nerf her for divergent realm

hasty karma
#

Well I guess it's not new

#

I've just been using Yinlin

#

For it

rotund drum
#

yeah shes probably the best char for it

hasty karma
#

Rn I'm debating

rotund drum
#

one of her things is to make her channel almost instant

hasty karma
#

Dragon lady or horny bait

rotund drum
#

so she can just spam shield

hasty karma
#

Yinlin was nuking but I haven't done the last difficulty

#

But my actual yinlin is built

#

I don't use the given one

rotund drum
#

i think it only affects the weapon and cons

#

and level ofc

#

it removes your echoes

hasty karma
#

I think it effects all because I had more hp

#

Then the trial one

#

And we were the same lv

#

And I'm 99% sure yinlin sig doesn't give hp

rotund drum
#

thats weird

hasty karma
#

Yeah idk or maybe I'm crazy

#

I haven't slept it 25 hrs

sterile swallow
#

Go to sleep. You need it!

ashen geyser
#

Jinhsi is bait she's weak in illusive realm

hasty karma
#

I agree

#

Thank you google

ashen geyser
#

Yeah bro just sleep

hasty karma
#

Can't fireworks

#

With my gf

#

In like 20

#

Mins

timid sierra
#

i hit scar in illusive realm V for 500k with jinhsi and he didnt just instadie

#

this is so messed up

#

pepega

sterile swallow
#

Nah of course not, bigger buffs for you meana bigger HP for the enemy in IR

timid sierra
#

how do i even get tier 4 thundering mephis in IR

#

i literally cannot get enough fucking green points even at lvl 5

#

this is so staged

sterile swallow
#

You have to break open the rocks

timid sierra
#

did their frequency get nerfed since last ir

sterile swallow
#

Sometimes it will have a cat = extra metaphors

timid sierra
#

i swear theres so few rocks now

sterile swallow
#

I always find at least 1-2 in memories of fierce struggles

timid sierra
#

maybe ive been going to the wrong doors

sterile swallow
#

Also if you're lucky, you might get a Scar encounter early and he has a chance to drop an op buff

timid sierra
#

i got that once in like level 1

#

where it was least useful E_OMEGARAZOR

sterile swallow
#

This one, basically every time you a pick a buff from the cat, you have a chance to get another one

rotund drum
#

its a small chance and its random so it often doesnt even help

#

nice to have if you can get it though

#

the free points one too

#

so you can buy out the shop

timid sierra
#

right after these sets of messages i got the buff

#

i dont think i ever got a bonus aero thingie though

#

but i got lucky with the other things and rock spawns and i finally got the lvl 4 thundering mephis

#

thank god

edgy cobalt
#

I caved in and used one of my selectors, now my verina rotations are just braindead

#

I don't think I ever had to use her ult LMAO
edit: exaggeration

#

aside from iframes

lament shuttle
edgy cobalt
#

actually whenever that gets downtime I can ult and E J NAx2 to outro

#

so I alternate between rot to outro, then ult -> rot to outro, then repeat

ashen geyser
#

Can't wait to get my jinhsi and RC1 her with the 360thingy

#

If I don't get her in 17 days I'm spending it all on pulls

neat robin
#

I used all my coral on pulls for her sig lol

#

Was worth s0r1 over s1 imo

#

I’m hoping we get to see leaks of 1.2 kits before I decide on using guaranteed on hsi s1 or waiting 🤔

lilac hare
#

I’m waiting for 1.2 leaks as well, before getting her C_HutaoYEP

#

Hopefully we get them soon

neat robin
#

Skipping changli, praying 1.2 has a new support

ashen geyser
neat robin
#

The 5* weapons just have so much more atk than 4*s and you can pass them around for tower easily

ashen geyser
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Changli kit is more dps than encore

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Her outro is like the only one that's not dps-like

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Oh yeah I forgot I have lustrous razor

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Yeah I'll prolly skip on the weap