・wuwa-lounge

[opaque flume]

Ok

[dense elbow]

idk how good changlis quickswap potential will be tho coz we dont have swap frames

coz encore is VERY good at that

like changli dmg is good but idrk what teams id personally put her in

just general carry stuff

idk if changli yinlin has any place or not

[naive basin]

btw i just checked

[dense elbow]

and just swap between em quite quick

[naive basin]

the configs are all saved

[dense elbow]

but changli CDs are quite long

[opaque flume]

Ya I restarted the game

Now it’s fine

[blissful tulip]

Oh, they reduced exploration requirements

Some of my areas are 100% now

[opaque flume]

Also the motion blur was off

[opaque flume]

??? How does this work

What

[naive basin]

yeah same here

my central plains was like 88%

now it's 99%

reduced requirements for chests

[opaque flume]

I thought 100% would be like

All chests

Ngl

[cobalt apex]

it was never 100%

[dense elbow]

yeah my tigers maw is at 100% with these stats now lmao

[cobalt apex]

since rounding problem

[dense elbow]

it used to be u needed everything and still didnt get 100% on some areas

[opaque flume]

Ok but 99.5 is pretty close

[dense elbow]

now they pulled a genshin

[opaque flume]

Ngl

[dense elbow]

where 100% isnt true 100%

[cobalt apex]

i couldnt get 100% jinzhou for some reasons

[dense elbow]

this is a nice feature tho

[cobalt apex]

[blissful tulip]

I'm not really seeing any significant improvements in optimization unfortunately

[cobalt apex]

i literally CANNOT find the last one

[opaque flume]

Skill issue

[opaque flume]

My shit is more laggy

So

[cobalt apex]

at least it round up to 100

so whatever

[opaque flume]

I think the restart fixed it

Tho

My game was fucked before the restart ngl

[naive basin]

lagging stopped (but still happens when you tp somewhere) and loading times have decreased somewhat

i had multiple hard freezes fighting the mech abomination

60-1-60 fps type freezes

[opaque flume]

Ya I’ve been having some of those too but not many

[forest dome]

what is the rot for jinhsi

in mortefi/verina

[burnt brook]

how good is jinshi?

[rotund drum]

op

her BA chain actually isnt as bad as it sounds for starting combos since her standard swap attack starts her at the third hit

it might actually be a bit faster than her intro skill for starting her ken combo

[opaque violet]

so the bp weap is good for her?

[weary acorn]

Did they fucked with cam sensitivity?

[blissful tulip]

Is Crownless Hologram not meant to have a vibration shield?

[small bronze]

they really just said the word "cringe" in the game

[robust axle]

Which is fitting because it describes the story just fine

[small bronze]

[clear stump]

They fucked something up

Man game was fine before this patch

[small bronze]

what is wrong? works all fine for me

i even reinstalled the game from ssd to hdd and it works fine

[rigid shore]

anyone that was stuttering before still stuttering after the update?

[weary acorn]

i had a few stutters on trial

[rigid shore]

im getting less after the update

and loading is quite fast now

[weary acorn]

i didnt have this issue before

[rigid shore]

icant

[weary acorn]

loading on mobile is still the same when opening for the first time

[blissful tulip]

I feel that it hasn't changed at all for me

Slight improvements here and there

[rigid shore]

before i stuttered every like 5 seconds

like game would freeze the frame a bit

now not so much

[cobalt apex]

its also the same for me

barely any stutter at low graphics and very hard to play at high graphics

[blissful tulip]

Unironically fantastic Hologram design

Such a shame it's one-time

[cobalt apex]

not the worst i suppose

[lilac hare]

How is jinhsi for those who got her?

[weary acorn]

Fine I'm considering sig now

[forest dome]

still lv40 at ul50

broke af

[cobalt apex]

deadge

[sterile swallow]

She is a broken character

s0r1, can casually dish out 100k+ damage at max stacks, even more with buffs

You do need to level her Forte talent to max though for bigger numbers

Forte>Liberation>>>>all else

[kind turtle]

Knew it ez

[small bronze]

do we know anything about 1.2?

[cobalt apex]

dont think so

[small bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-leek-gif-25666292

any

im glad i got jiyan and yinlin i dont really like jhinsi

hope everyone gets her though!!!

[weary acorn]

Ok mobile cam sensitivity is absolutely fucked

Hopefully this gets fixed soon since it's all over discord and their sub

Surely

[small bronze]

OH DAMN

||you get to play changli already in the story||

[cobalt apex]

[clear stump]

Yeah camera randomly does a full 180 for me when fighting. Even set all the sensitivity to 0 and it does nothing.

Kuro definitely break something for mobile players

People are already gaslighting you for saying this

Just wait kuro comes out tomorrow with apologems

[blissful tulip]

The camera does feel weird this time, yeah

[small bronze]

im surprised we not getting any codes since launch

[outer jetty]

Just 2k more till UL50

Tommorow then

Also camera in mobile is much more sensitive

And for some reason less optimised

I see more framedrop than previous version

[lilac hare]

I just want controller support for mobile/tablets

[terse oak]

hmm, so the optimization for the users w/ mid-quality devices are still not occured after this patch?

[blissful tulip]

Not for many

For some it has gotten better

Same as before essentially

[terse oak]

not lagging at open-world exploration?

[naive basin]

it is not going to happen anytime soon

unless they change the framework of the game

which is pretty much a whole rewrite of how the game loads/unloads

and they have to do it for both mobile and pc

[blissful tulip]

Different for everyone

[naive basin]

if your computer is very much above the recommended it will run completely fine

via brute force

[terse oak]

ok then, thanks for the update

[naive basin]

lmao real

if you are on pc and have an igpu

just add the engine command for UE4

that preloads shaders

should remove a bit of the stuttering

and igpus have essentially unlimited storage for textures

cant really fix framerates being low though

just the stuttering

[terse oak]

well then, but thanks

hoping for everyone to enjoy that game

and get suffer

[outer jetty]

I am gonna ditch the game till it has console release after 1.1 at this point

[naive basin]

console release would sort a lot of things out

[terse oak]

when for nentendo switch

[naive basin]

can anticipate a port with switch 2

*cope

[small bronze]

the new act is a lot of yapping

but not good kind of yap

[dapper oar]

i didn't even get a single 4 star what the fuck

bro these are back to back

[forest dome]

good thing skip button exists

[small bronze]

yea i skip everything but not the mainstory but this act is just like genshin, certified yappers making 10 word sentence into 100

jiyan and yinlin were more fun imo

[hollow gorge]

hmm, did they remove some of Jihnsi animations? Her transition from b4 to b1 is non existent.

[rotund drum]

being able to skip everything is super good

midhoyo simps seething

[forest dome]

can we get s4 havoc mc this patch?

or s3 max

[karmic crag]

what do i do with windchimers

🗿

[clear tartan]

Bruh did anyone see the food that increases Echo drop rate

[hollow ravine]

Has anyone tested Mortefi if he works with Jinhsi? Just wanted to ask

[clear tartan]

Does it change the drop rate from 20% to 30% or 20% to 70%

The latter sounds insane

[clear tartan]

He should but haven't tested

[cobalt apex]

to 30%

[clear tartan]

I see thanks, still good

[cobalt apex]

i mean what does it increase the actual chance to

let me calc

[clear tartan]

I'll test it out when I manage to get the recipe

[hollow gorge]

where do you get the recipe from

[weary acorn]

wind chimes

u need like 30

[cobalt apex]

if u dont abuse pity its roughly a 7% increase

[rotund drum]

btw has anyone tested if cruisewing procs rejuvenating glow

thinking rejuvglow yuanwu

[cobalt apex]

well 16% but yea

[cobalt apex]

it does

[hollow ravine]

Happened to me too on novice banner

So I checked astrite.gg, and found out that actual hard pity is 78, and not 80

[clear tartan]

Wha so why do people say it doesn't

[cobalt apex]

i just check

rover atk went up

[clear tartan]

Welp good for all the Yuanwu users for Jinhsi

[still cypress]

Certified halal Jianxin milk 😋

[rotund drum]

they'll probs nerf it but it wont kill me to build rejuvglow then i guess

[cobalt apex]

[rotund drum]

can always give it to verina IL in the future

[small bronze]

lesgo

[dense elbow]

he works yeah

[dense elbow]

not just gonna use him on originite?

so you can use bellborne?

[hollow ravine]

Which one? Her basic or skill with C1?

[dense elbow]

he works to make stacks at s0

[hollow gorge]

lmao

[dense elbow]

s1 is a big increase tho for him

[hollow ravine]

For Mortefi right?

[hollow gorge]

Jianxin flavor...

[dense elbow]

yeah mortefis s1

[weary acorn]

how big is the diff of jinshi's sig from the standard one?

[dense elbow]

calcs will be up on prydwen soon

will let ppl know and pin again once theyre up

[weary acorn]

okayge

[lament shuttle]

Her dmg is out of this world wtf

I feel like she does 2x what others do

[weary acorn]

uh actually she deals normal dmg as I shred this spectro resistant enemy

normal dmg of the highest nuke my other chars can do

[cobalt apex]

sounds broken

[blissful tulip]

Jue as a boss is rather meh

Thought they'd do more with her

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/so-i've-heard-gif-1899418861963210299

apparently very annoying fight

😔

[cobalt apex]

[blissful tulip]

She likes to fly around everywhere

[cobalt apex]

its very annoying as a fight

[blissful tulip]

And as a boss she deals next to no damage

Also surprisingly low hp

Good to farm, bad to fight

[weary acorn]

music is aggressively mid to imo

[blissful tulip]

It's grand at least

The snowboarding challenges have the exact same issues as the dragonfly challenge

Going through rings just doesn't give you the points sometimes

[rotund drum]

he does enough that its probably worth keeping him on the def gloves

def scaling is really good relative to atk scaling

in this game

thats probably why his base scaling on his CA is like 5% lol

if it was like 50% like in genshit he'd be outhitting yinlin

[dense elbow]

imo the buffs from bellborne would outweigh his personal dmg for jinhsi but

coz the originite gauntlets have cdmg substat too

so its not like hes losing dmg

since hes def scaling he doesnt care for the base atk

[rotund drum]

the def scaling on his sig gloves is better than the crit dmg on originite i think

plus verina is already on bell so if im not using a healer i probably wouldnt mind the top-off from cruisewing

its not a huge heal but its pretty low cd

its like 1k partywide every 8s

with no animation

[dense elbow]

yes but then you lose out on the buffing from bellborne as well as its dmg reduction

[dense elbow]

if shes already on bell do you just

not have a heron user?

coz if shes on clouds she should be using heron

if shes on rejuv then rejuv yuanwu is useless coz it doesnt stack

[rotund drum]

what does heron do

[dense elbow]

+10 resonance energy to the user
+12% DMG to the next character after using outro skill

and then clouds set bonus gives 22.5% ATK to the next character after using outro skill

[rotund drum]

oh

too much effort imo lol

[dense elbow]

?

you need to intro into jinhsi anyways

😭

[rotund drum]

nah im just smashing buttons with jinhsi

her regular swap in might actually be faster than her intro

[dense elbow]

you dont get in her state without her intro tho unless you do her grounded basic

[rotund drum]

since it starts her from ba3

[dense elbow]

so you literally cant do her combo without wasting time on her normal basics

[rotund drum]

so she just needs to do the uppercut into divekick

[dense elbow]

it doesnt start from B3 unless you intro into her

which atp

the intro already gave her her Skill 2

[rotund drum]

nah it starts from ba3 if you swap in without intro

or you get instant skill on intro but the intro itself takes a bit longer

so you lose maybe like one second tops

if even that

[dense elbow]

should be worth using intro regardless imo

coz u need to use outros on chars like verina anyways

[rotund drum]

i definitely wouldnt spend charging verina outro if the buff is already up

just to get jinhsi intro

verina outro buff lasts 20s iirc

you dont need to spam it

[cobalt apex]

30s

the atk buff from passive is 20s

[rotund drum]

even better

anyway i was mostly expecting jinhsi to be a quickswap but you can actually just mash constantly on her

her uptime is pretty good

just do her nuke combo > swap out > immediately swap back in > nuke combo again

if you have chars like yuanwu or verina who use little field time its even better

yuanwu literally doesnt need to do anything since he resets his spike on swapping out

and his other buttons are kinda sus anyway

you can literally just plink him

[small bronze]

im getting there just a lil more er

[rotund drum]

just do like jinhsi stuff > 2~3 > verina stuff > 1

although you need to drain yuanwu's forte sometimes

[kind turtle]

holy what are these new achievements 😭

[cobalt apex]

[dense elbow]

depends on if ur using bellborne or heron on her coz of yuanwu

heron and clouds buffs are only 15s

[night mantle]

so jinhsi owners

is it me or you guys all feel that her atks are too much flashy?

[dense elbow]

they are very overthetop

but i like it

[night mantle]

like I can't even see whether the boss is attacking me or not

is there a setting to reduce the flashiness?

and also its not only jinhsi's fault

[dense elbow]

could maybe try turning this down

[night mantle]

since we have to do coordinated atks, the atks from yinlin, verina and mortefi together with jinhsi completely hides the boss

[night mantle]

okay

it was already on low 🙂

[dense elbow]

[blissful tulip]

Very important question, how are the Iframes

[dense elbow]

more like how does it feel to get hit out of your fancy animations coz she has 2 of them whereas other chars have 1

[night mantle]

exactly

[dense elbow]

using intro skill or ultimate and then getting hit by an attack feel so fucking shit coz theres like

nothing you can do about it

😭

[cobalt apex]

calcharo intro

love it

[night mantle]

have to give her verina treatment ...wait for a window to use 🙂

[blissful tulip]

I'm happy to hear it isn't Iframe fest at least

Although it sure felt like it when I fought against Jué

[dense elbow]

well her animation attacks do have i frames

or at least you wont get stunned out of them

but then u have the issue of getting hit as you come out of them so

[cobalt apex]

[weary acorn]

Gotta love getting ur big shit getting canceled

[rotund drum]

jinhsi has a teleport at least so its not that bad

she has wanderer exploits so a lot of mobs just miss her

[barren drift]

btw chat

how did tacet field rewards change

[neat robin]

I forgot we can fuse tuners nowwww

Finally

No more 1k+ stack of blue and purples

[barren drift]

oh

i remb

LESGO

[opal venture]

We can also craft echo exp too

[rotund drum]

hopefully they nerf that

i dont want to farm shit for it

[rotund drum]

its the same, they just removed the dumb animation

[barren drift]

[rotund drum]

does anyone know where to get the new echo superfood btw

[opal venture]

Jinhsi eating good

[neat robin]

Atk over spectro?

[opal venture]

It is good since her signature has plenty of dmg bonus

I use spec/atk tho

[neat robin]

Changli trial was sorta fun

But too many chars to build already and I wanna save for a new support

[rotund drum]

i think the biggest problem with midhsi is that its hard to see whether the mob dropped an echo after you nuke them

hopefully they add an autopickup option for echoes soon

i get all their loot automatically but i still have to check the area after every fight for echoes anyway

[vapid river]

i'm just glad the mouths and words are synced

😭

[neat robin]

27k forte and its still only with lv1 talents… 😭

[opaque flume]

nah fr i did cal ult and then got smacked like 100000 meters away and was so mad

[dense elbow]

[dense elbow]

dmg/dmg is very close to atk/dmg but double dmg still beats out most of the time

its close with sig

[opaque flume]

wheres that like "go away" gif with the giant hand

[dense elbow]

just use the better substats rly

[opaque flume]

it was like that

lmao

[hollow gorge]

how her 50 stacks are counted though? If that goes into DMG% multiplier ELE/ATK might win over 2xELE

[dense elbow]

theyre raw MV

at T10 she gets like

2000%+ MV from max stacks lmao

[hollow gorge]

was that tested? Because it reads like it might go into DMG%

[dense elbow]

1. yes it was tested
2. the kit literatlly says "additional multiplier"

"additional multiplier" refers to additive MV

they wouldve specified DMG Bonus for all Attributes or smth like that if it was DMG% and the numbers we r seeing would be nowhere near as high

[opal venture]

Its not actually about her forte but is that she has 20% spectro bonus in ascension, including big dmg bonus from her signature

[dense elbow]

mhm it puts atk/dmg very close

much closer than on most other chars

[opal venture]

And there is not many atk buff to cap the value of a cost 3

[dense elbow]

if ur on something like

[dense elbow]

the standard 5 star tho

you got enuf atk% there lol

[opal venture]

This is her bonus with 1 spec

Not even any buff

[neat robin]

Is there a material tracker thing
So I can see how much more shit I need for my chars

Like seelie for genshin

[knotty fiber]

Doesn't even need testing

If it says multiplier, it's MV

Simple as that

Same thing in HSR and PGR too

[night mantle]

do you guys have the total dmg calculation formula?

I wanna do the math for different combinations

[dense elbow]

in pins

should be part of the 1st pin as one of the links

[night mantle]

thanks 😉

[rotund drum]

should be the same as genshit i think

stat x mutliplier x bonuses x res x def x other stuff

not sure about the exact def formula but i dont think anyone in this game actually applies def down

also it seems JS's normal swap attack only replaces the first BA but it makes the whole thing considerably faster

i guess her BA1 is just that slow

greatsword chars...

[night mantle]

so this is correct right

and if we talk about
atk% then it will go into bonusATK%
and elemental dmg bonus will go into bonus elementaldmg

If above is true then total dmg for both atk% and dmg% echos should be same

the only other thing I can think of is "this move deals dmg as elemental dmg" might change the above formula

[vapid river]

ik her sig buffs elemental dmg

but yeah, in instances where elemental dmg isn't being buffed they'd be the same

[neat robin]

The last 2 spectro rover cons from lv3 & 5 of the new areas casket submission

Or windchime submission rather

[dense elbow]

missing dmg reduction and elemental reduction

https://bsky.app/profile/leifachan.bsky.social/post/3ksyxdl3bxi24

and theres also the TC document from LP

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IEa9FUXLI8EzT20q0NdvSbK8UY7yntw9/view

both of these in pins already

[night mantle]

hmm I see, but both of these will be constant for atk% and dmg% right?

[dense elbow]

currently idk where theyre used

so

they exist tho

same for Special DMG

not used anywhere but it exists

[night mantle]

formula here shows that both of them depends on enemy

[blissful tulip]

Good map , step up from what we've had previously

[dense elbow]

yeah dmg reduction stuff would be part of enemy stats but not sure of any enemies that have it

[night mantle]

maybe then this uses special dmg bonus in some away

[dense elbow]

oh this?

this just changes the damage type from what it would be normally

so like how Jue's DoT specifies "deals dmg as skill dmg"

it just changes the damage tag from Echo to Skill

so it now benefits from Skill DMG Bonus

rather than Echo DMG Bonus

[night mantle]

ohh

[dense elbow]

and will trigger effects that Skill DMG would do

[night mantle]

then the dmg is actually same in theory unless we are missing something

[dense elbow]

i mean idrk what ur looking at lol

i just saw a dmg formula and u asked if it was right

[forest dome]

so i can save my mid ratio...

[dense elbow]

Prydwen Jinhsi information is now available, enjoy

https://www.prydwen.gg/wuthering-waves/characters/jinhsi

[forest dome]

[hollow gorge]

lul

wait, why there is no Baizhi in the potential teammates category

[vapid river]

farming was never the same

[vapid river]

i think any team that has verina, baizhi could be used instead

[hollow gorge]

yeah, but in this specific matchup verina is the same attribute as JS, so it loses stacks gain frequency a bit

[neat robin]

Get to hit things with a instrument

[vapid river]

[vapid river]

ah i didn't think the same element would matter if that's the case shouldn't we use smc instead of yuanwu/yinlin for hybrid?

[opaque flume]

Imagine if it was good

[opaque flume]

Whale

[vapid river]

i may have spent money, but not for the wep

[opaque flume]

💀

[vapid river]

after i lost to lingyang

i rage swiped

[rotund drum]

pretty much everyone i know has lost 50/50 to lingyang actually

i remember when 4chan was saying lingyang rates were rigged and shills were in denial about it

because chinese companies are always fair and honest and would never lie about rates etc

[forest dome]

when higher base drop...

[forest dome]

why do i feel like i have seen this chat before

im having dejavu

[vapid river]

i posted it yesterday

in tclounge

unless you also had this luck

[vapid river]

fuckin never

[forest dome]

no like i seen it last year... also i havent went into tc lounge for a year or so

real dejavu

[vapid river]

but wuwa wasn't out a year ago

[forest dome]

exactly

wel

stuffs happens

congrats anw

[neat robin]

Time to farm for a cdmg jue I guess

Pretty sure cal is immediately benched now with jinhsi except for cal+yinlin vs spectro bosses

[forest dome]

atk% it is then

🔥

[edgy cobalt]

so illusive realms ain't released yet or

[forest dome]

yea not yet but smh bp mission have it

[edgy cobalt]

was wondering

[forest dome]

the rest rolled badly all defensive

cursed

[dense elbow]

shes fine just verina is quite noticably better given how short jinhsis rots are

[dense elbow]

not rly

verina hits more times

baizhi hits less but gets the extra stack from ice

and is more staggered

if you take a lil bit longer than average theyre about the same

otherwise verina tends to still edge out

[neat robin]

Jiyan & hrover are lv80, gonna do encore next then jinhsi & yinlin
So much farming, I have no credits

[rotund drum]

if jinhsi is just some feeble scholar but she can already summon dragons and stuff

why do they even need jiyan

[blissful tulip]

That's that for 1.1

[dapper oar]

is s1 jinhsi worth?

[rotund drum]

probably not but if you happen to get her while going for danjin i dont see why not

[neat robin]

Very first jue drop is a cdmg time to watch it go double def/hp

[vapid river]

tyty

[neat robin]

The hotsprings heal you

[vapid river]

they do

[hollow gorge]

what I meant is that there is lesser gap between Baizhi and Verina in JS teams than with other main dps chars

[rotund drum]

these banners are unironically rigged

[blissful tulip]

https://x.com/Narushioww/status/1806747603318497763

Narushio (@Narushioww) on X

Two new top-up items were added to the Wuthering Waves top-up page

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• 32400 Lunites + Extra 8000

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Twitter · Jun 28, 2024, 5:52 PM

[forest dome]

😭

its real

smh

[neat robin]

Every time I try to fight this stupid red wolf thing my camera zooms in

Only fighting it though its normal for anything else open world

[rotund drum]

actually not surprised

i can confirm lion fuccboi rate is boosted and danjin doesnt actually exist

[dense elbow]

yesnt tbh lol

[dense elbow]

jesus fucking christ

[kind turtle]

what the fuck

[neat robin]

I stole your danjin clearly mines like s10 by now

s1 cal & lingyang
s0 verina encore jiyan yinlin jinhsi

s6 mort danjin chixia
& whatever low resos on my other 4*s

[blissful tulip]

I got two Yuanwu's while pulling on Jinshi's banner

Although I'm not too unhappy about this

E6 Yuanwu can enable an extremely gimmicky Taoqi Yuanwu synergy

[rotund drum]

im out of primogems now anyway so w/e

hopefully they leak some fuccboi for 1.2

so i can skip

[outer jetty]

Lingyang the new qiqi is rigged

[rotund drum]

idk why he even exists

[outer jetty]

Also still no new 1.2 leak/drip

[rotund drum]

he has like the lamest fuccboyest design of any standard 5* lineup i've ever seen

at least yanqing is actually cool

[burnt brook]

lingyang or the new 5 star 1.2 character?

[rotund drum]

i havent seen the other one

i meant lingyang

if they wanted some dumb lion they should have at least made it the divine beast dancing lion

instead of some cat eared fuckboy

[clear stump]

It's weird how the camera doesn't reset back to how you set it up to be. I wish they would revert camera movement back to 1.0, it's really fucked on mobile.

[neat robin]

I’m just glad the camera is actually fast now 😭

[clear stump]

They need to just give us controller support.

[neat robin]

It sucked so badly at max sens before update
But now, awesome speed but weird glitches sometimes

[limber imp]

Changli gameplay is so cool

Especially at max forte

[rotund drum]

hopefully she saves pyro

[karmic fox]

has anyone been able to enable vibration on PS5 dualsense controller?

it finally let me customize controller setting in 1.1, but I still don't have vibration

[fickle kernel]

jinhsi havers can i get some reviews

[dense elbow]

very stupid

[fickle kernel]

is it bc shes like this game's version of an archon or is changli gonna be just as stupid

[neat robin]

Has anyone found one of the new shinies yet

[oak copper]

working on that Eula cosplay

[edgy cobalt]

yeah

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897418126294155284/1256329257563590777/image.png?ex=66805f4c&is=667f0dcc&hm=4202205dc78b5f9292f868fa6debe7ea9d6e77556763212baa7545a16ba0dbbe&

[neat robin]

Any chance you remember where it spawns at?
I killed all of my worlds cats and had none today

[fickle kernel]

does the shiny version do something different?

[dense elbow]

who knows how changli will do

but imo jinhsi plays infinitely nicer than jiyan does lmao

[edgy cobalt]

I casually got the cat when attending to one of the photo spots but I forgot

[neat robin]

Nah shinies just look different

[grim grove]

archon what?

isnt that Jue?

[neat robin]

Well I may have jinhsi sig but i guess keeping cr main isnt that bad… if I get cdmg subs everywhere instead

[rotund drum]

spectro archon

its funny cause jiyan is supposed to be some famous flying general like lu bu

and jinhsi is just some rich girl

[neat robin]

Anyone know why rover shows up here
Pretty sure its only on the 5 echos I have equipped to hrover rn too

But none of the other chars show

[rotund drum]

i just tested it btw and jue's dot does give jinhsi stacks

so she can still build stacks while off-field

thats probably why its a dot lol

they'll probs nerf it

[dense elbow]

yeah its because it deals skill dmg

any damage type that isnt Echo or Typeless can make stacks for her

the DoT specifically deals Skill DMG so it makes stacks

same for mech aboms hits being considered Outro DMG

[uneven flame]

So does Tambourinist work too? I heard it does but I haven't actually tried it. Not sure if it would be more efficient at building stacks than Mech even if it does work. Thinking of just giving Yuanwu one and bringing Verina on healing set so I don't have to switch her to moonlit.

[dense elbow]

it shouldnt do

its Echo DMG

https://wuthering.wiki/monster_320000050.html

Jue's hits that are Echo DMG also dont stack it still

its specifically only the DoTs which are Skill DMG

[uneven flame]

[rotund drum]

damn it costs 13k to make one of the echo droprate foods

guess ill just grind the hard way

17k even

[forest dome]

addicted n want more danjin

e1 jinhsi jumpscared

[forest dome]

😭

i keep gettin yangyang

prob gonna grind more n build pity

if e2 worth going for

[rotund drum]

probably not

you're gonna get spooked by lion fuccboi

[forest dome]

been hitting 72-73 pity almost everything

losing would decimate me

[rotund drum]

i dont think ive seen anyone not get lion fuccboi while losing 50/50 on this banner

[weary acorn]

I have not

But later surely

[night mantle]

[winged belfry]

When to drop Jue in Jinhsi rotation? At the beginning or at the end?

[rotund drum]

ideally at the beginning but it doesnt matter that much

you want it ticking off field but the dot last 15s and her rotation doesnt actually take that long

so you can just spam it

[night mantle]

jue buffs apply instantly or after whole animation?

[rotund drum]

we may never know

it says casting it though

should be easy enough to cast the summon then immediately cast a skill and see if a dot got applied though

but i dont have the game open atm

[knotty fiber]

@cobalt apex

[cobalt apex]

what did u cook

[knotty fiber]

no

just wanna ask for your spectro ones

been getting garbage ytd

[cobalt apex]

sure

[knotty fiber]

I moved on from Yinlin

[cobalt apex]

rn i dont have any char that i want to get echoes for

[knotty fiber]

ironically the only good one I have got for spectro

[cobalt apex]

so

[knotty fiber]

and that was my first Jué

[night mantle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/927934352464150609/1256471599570223156/Screenshot_2024-06-29_at_10.19.20_AM.png?ex=6680e3dd&is=667f925d&hm=397b649b04ed394559548a0c4f20303eb383f6c45d92bfe8d97ae4a654a280b4&

[cobalt apex]

got updated and restarted

[night mantle]

they gave us 1 extra assesnion material?

[cobalt apex]

[cobalt apex]

lvl 100 real

btw @knotty fiber do u know if s4 hrover is possible this update?

or we cap at s3 rn

[knotty fiber]

idts

should be 3

[cobalt apex]

sad

[knotty fiber]

S3 is fken useless

[cobalt apex]

that 10% res shred is so good

[knotty fiber]

[night mantle]

srover gets its S6 this patch

[cobalt apex]

srover

[cobalt apex]

u can join now

[grim grove]

what happened to the depth of illusive realm?

[night mantle]

prob 1 week later

[cobalt apex]

no emerald of genesis

[knotty fiber]

one bit

[cobalt apex]

[knotty fiber]

the other friend lets me sweep their world

gotta do it quick

[cobalt apex]

my hrover is going to be so good

the only non double crit piece

[knotty fiber]

I gave up on trying to improve HRoverr

for now

cuz I have too many to bui;d

[cobalt apex]

i only have 3

[knotty fiber]

I build HRover, Jiyan, Changli, Yinlin

and now Jinhsi

[cobalt apex]

well

i have 30 locked fusion dmg% piece

[knotty fiber]

speedrun going broke any %

[cobalt apex]

that i havent raised

lmao

• ive also considered a possibility of atk set on her

so ive prepared like 40 fusion dmg% on atk set

[knotty fiber]

@cobalt apex

your world turned into minecraft

[cobalt apex]

wtf

average wuwa experience

[knotty fiber]

wtf

[edgy cobalt]

I have the exact same bug

[forest dome]

kuro 🔥

[cobalt apex]

pixelated png tree

[outer jetty]

I swear optimization is getting worse

Have 1st crash ever in mobile

I also got texture missing/black face during Yinlin ult early patch

[cobalt apex]

phase 6 coop farming...

the monsters have so much hp...

do we know the hp multiplier of monsters in coop

[outer jetty]

Talk of the devil new patch address some crash

[night mantle]

apparently loot mapper is bugged

before https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/927934352464150609/1256483786426683524/Screenshot_2024-06-29_at_11.06.51_AM.png?ex=6680ef37&is=667f9db7&hm=5bf505c1dc56675e045735d32b365362a85a09130c1be266995ee4165a288fa0&

after reusing it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/927934352464150609/1256483787420860450/Screenshot_2024-06-29_at_11.07.28_AM.png?ex=6680ef37&is=667f9db7&hm=38b1ed7ae9a137fe3584ee6548c9e378a5166b5995a94f1bbe89d40f2c3b2a72&

they disappear randomly sometimes 1 sometimes more as time passes

here I teleported and some disappeared

[rotund drum]

ok i just tested it and its instant

you can actually cast it after pressing the skill but before the last hit

[naive basin]

a good amount of the trees have super low LOD

idk if this is because of time cutting or to reduce the load on devices

[rotund drum]

that reminds me, werent they supposed to implement dlss3

[rotund drum]

that reminds me, i should build that calcharo i got during danjingate

dont have a broadblade for him though so he'd have to use taoqi katana

[knotty fiber]

ogey I'm done @cobalt apex

thanks

[rotund drum]

is it over

[cobalt apex]

[opal venture]

The mapper is bugged again

[naive basin]

dlss3 is already in game

just not the framegen part

[grim grove]

why couldnt it be resonance liberation dmg bonus

[small bronze]

my game updated and now its stuck on loading 75%

cant even get into the game on pc

[barren drift]

LOOKING

[small siren]

heya would i rather get changli or jinshi
i like them both a ton but cant decide

so out of the two who would be conisdered better

[neat robin]

Just off personal opinion, jinhsi
Since I already have encore already built, and jinhsi is putting out big numbers already and only lv50 still with shit echos

But idk numbers if you’re looking for whichever has better dps

[weary acorn]

Changli has some few buffs for her element

Jinshi has yet to see a coord atker with skill buff

[cobalt apex]

we dont really have someone that works well with changli no?

[night mantle]

yup https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1dr4bkd/lootmapper_is_bugged_on_mobile_atleast/

[weary acorn]

On top my head I prefer jinshi cuz might last like 1-2 years imo

But in terms of longevity changli might just have her on edge

[opal venture]

Changli can take off her coat at max forte

Nuff said

[blissful tulip]

I'd like for others to test out and confirm whether this bug is true

In ToA, using Spectro Rover's outro may end up slowing the time for much longer than intended, switching him back in restores time to normal

Happened to myself when I experimented with SRover

[weary acorn]

Wasn't there like a bug like this on 1.0

But for everything?

U should look up some old clips from before too if it's like that

[neat robin]

With the pistol chars wasnt it?

[blissful tulip]

Yes, but that was patched

And worked in every mode, not just ToA

To clarify, I mean his outro skill time slow, time in ToA passes as normal

[burnt shoal]

omg they said those words

[night mantle]

lvl 50 rewards are goooooooood!

[cobalt apex]

surely u get a gold every run

[night mantle]

let me live in peace dude

[cobalt apex]

u have to face reality

[neat robin]

I havent got any golds yet from ul50 farming

Tbf havent done too much, was ascending jinhsi instead

But I see I need 8 golds for the weapon ascension

[cobalt apex]

this is what ive gotten so far

i would like to find out the avg

but i dont refresh so

[boreal oasis]

I kinda see it

Is yinhsi a scam

[blissful tulip]

Honestly willing to use Spectro MC + Jué and support Yuanwu

[small bronze]

was this here before

[blissful tulip]

New additions

[cobalt apex]

thats kinda pog

[small bronze]

60 greenies

[forest dome]

its new

goodge

i hope we get more everytime new hologram comes out...

[cobalt apex]

thats 2 runs of mats!

[dense elbow]

do u have a clip at all?

[blissful tulip]

I do, may take some time to download, please bear the sound quality as well

[night mantle]

wait a second yinlin takes too much time??? huh???
her skilll + ult + 1 boosted = full gauge
how is that a lot???

[boreal oasis]

Well yuanwu is like 1 sec ig

In comparison

And jinhsi doesn’t rly have downtime

[dense elbow]

been speaking to alec quite a bit, i think shes good but i definitely see the potential of yuanwu
the more invested your jinhsi is the more you just wanna be on her at all times

[boreal oasis]

It’s probably fairly comparable and at that point u prob want to free up yinlin for another team

[dense elbow]

hmhm thats my thinking

like youd get slightly less stacks overall but you get more uptime on jinhsi herself

whilst freeing up yinling for her more quickswap oriented stuff

and once u have yuanwus 2nd passive, you literally just need to swap into him and immediately leave to put his turret down

so you just B1 for rejuv set then swap into verina

do 3s concerto combo and then heron on her to jinhsi

[boreal oasis]

I do wonder if yuanwu team is workable without verina tho

[dense elbow]

coz u wanna intro into jinhsi at all times for both her set bonus and her stance

[dense elbow]

i dont think so personally

[boreal oasis]

Yeah so that’s kind of another consideration

Unless u run yuanwu as ur sustain

[dense elbow]

baizhi does not build up her concerto in nearly the same time as verina

[blissful tulip]

Only at S4

[dense elbow]

even tho verinas buffs last a long time, you just need a concerto, like quite literally just any concerto to get intro into jinhsi

and with yuanwu hes not bad for that but doesnt rly have any reason to do him over another char when hes proccing rejuv better than verina does lol

and the only option for yuanwu in the sustain slot is mortefi + yuanwu

and mortefi isnt bad at concerto gen but not as good as verina

yuanwu + verina kinda perfect coz u never have to intro in on verina so she always gets to accelerate to B3 and B3-5 gives her a stack

so you B3-5, Skill, Jump Mid Air combo, max concerto lmao

if you intro into verina she doesnt get to start from B3 and wastes a lot of time

[blissful tulip]

https://streamable.com/e2mtp4
35s mark

I recommend lowering the volume slightly

[dense elbow]

o7 internets being slow af updating wuwa so ill watch in a sec

[blissful tulip]

SRover's a lot better than I thought he would be, even in non shilled sides

[boreal oasis]

Yeah that was my concern

[boreal oasis]

Yeah I have s6 so it might not be impossible

But seems a bit rough

[spice finch]

For those with decent/gaming phone, how do you configure these settings?

Coz I dont know what each does 😁

[ebon jasper]

my lv 70 talent 5 jinhsi just 10s short vs my maxed jiyan

[blissful tulip]

Holograms really do become much easier

[oak copper]

early game issue of Sub DPS wanting good gear to be worth their salt and especially when your Main DPS is the newest Top Tier DPS its just gonna be a lot easier to go full Hyper.

Ofc Sigs also matter, when Yinlin's Sig is almost 40% ahead of R1 BP as the next best 4* option. So if you have R1 Jinhsi but no R1 on Yinlin its gonna be much more difficult to make an argument for Yinlin aswell.

[dense elbow]

ngl

when my yinlin looks like this

and i still feel itd be better for me to try out yuanwu

that says a lot

in comparison my jinhsi on 5 star standard weapon

[boreal oasis]

It’s still a rough trade off tho bc if the team is non functional without verina then ur screwing ur other teams

[oak copper]

WuWa Yae being unveiled as just being Yae and on the train home to the bench

[blissful tulip]

Already regretting pulling for Yinlin

She feels rather weak without her Sig

[boreal oasis]

We will get a proper 5* for her one day

[dense elbow]

tbf i like yinlin a lot

encore yinlin feels really strong to play

[oak copper]

I'd still give Cal a shot if he wasn't so adept at getting himself killed

[dense elbow]

just the more invested your jinhsi gets, the more i feel she just wants to have

as little downtime as possible

so i can see the merit in yuanwu

but ive not personally tried him myself yet coz i havent got the resources to build him

[limber imp]

I’m so excited for changli after using her in the quest

[oak copper]

question is if Jinhsi stays a stand-out for now or if thats what we can expect from Limited DPS in general from now on

[dense elbow]

yeah no clue

[limber imp]

Like 4 different models

[blissful tulip]

I'm very close to just giving up on Calcharo entirely and using his echoes as fodder on someone else

[dense elbow]

but at least rn

id say jinhsi is fucking stupid

[blissful tulip]

His playstyle feels wonky and stiff, especially in his ult

[dense elbow]

if the sets good id keep it around personally

like

if im comparing this section

[oak copper]

I already had these vibes with Jiyan, where he just did all the damage so investing into Mortefi felt like improving a rounding error

[blissful tulip]

They aren't the best , and the only character I can really use 5pc atk on is Ling Yang

[dense elbow]

i think calcharo is a pretty clear cut above dps danjin

[limber imp]

Guys how much better is changlis sig compared to emerald of genesis

[dense elbow]

but i dont think hes on par with encore or havoc rover

i think he sits inbetween T0.5 and T1

if this was me id personally move danjin to the hybrid slot given sanhua is there but idk lmao

[limber imp]

Calcharo is acc pretty good

[dense elbow]

i aint saying hes bad at all

[oak copper]

Cal's problem isn't damage but how he does it

[dense elbow]

just hes not pulling his weight as much as people expected him to

[blissful tulip]

Calcharo isn't bad in the slightest, I just despise how he plays in this sort of game

[dense elbow]

hes very skill dependant and has little room for error or even dodging

[dense elbow]

latest numbers i saw were about 11-15% ish, take with a grain of salt tho coz i cant share the sheets

[lament shuttle]

I think they’re underestimating chixia on this

[dense elbow]

😔

[blissful tulip]

Actually, Leifa, you're likely better at judging this than I am regarding echo foddering

[dense elbow]

i dont think they are at all ngl

[blissful tulip]

Let me get his set

[dense elbow]

lingyangs kinda shit and i still think hes better than chixia

https://www.prydwen.gg/wuthering-waves/tier-list

if u want the whole thing

[boreal oasis]

Yeah I like encore yinlin

[dense elbow]

very nice team, barely even need to use encore ult honestly lol

[limber imp]

Btw what are changlis best teams

[lament shuttle]

Maybe it’s enemy design but her dmg uptime being near 100% is feels good ok the mobs that yeet 1000 m away

[boreal oasis]

I can do either yinlin/jinhsi encore/sanhua or yinlin/encore jinhsi/yuanwu rn

But not rly sure which angle to take

[limber imp]

And should I get encore or verina for changli

[dense elbow]

generally hyper setups i feel but taoqi concerto is stupid to get up so that may be too annoying to do 😔

[dense elbow]

verina if i had to say one

[boreal oasis]

It rly depends on how to allocate the sustains I feel

[dense elbow]

changli + encore doesnt rly pair well together

[limber imp]

Hmmm alr

[karmic crag]

won 5 50/50s in a row

[dense elbow]

changli + chixia may have some merit

[karmic crag]

[boreal oasis]

Idk where baizhi is not copium

[dense elbow]

shes just worse verina in every scenario rly

like

[boreal oasis]

I feel like it’s only rly yinlin jinhsi where she might not be

[dense elbow]

shes fine

with jinhsi i dont like her tho

[boreal oasis]

Too much ft as well?

[dense elbow]

theres a reason shes not even mentioned on prydwen

[dense elbow]

mhm

takes too long to get concerto imo

verina 3s combo is just too good

[boreal oasis]

Ig I could try her with encore yinlin?

But idk

[dense elbow]

and her coords are too spaced out

[boreal oasis]

It’s hard to find a place for her

[dense elbow]

yeah should be alright there once u get ur buffs going

[boreal oasis]

And that’s not even thinking abt my 3rd sustain

[dense elbow]

but its not coz shes better than verina

[boreal oasis]

It’s just that Verina doesn’t rly need to carry that team w concerto gen I feel

[dense elbow]

with jinhsi verinas insane concerto gen and on par if not better stack gen is just

enough for me to outcast baizhi

lmao

[limber imp]

Fr? Ppl always said it was good

[boreal oasis]

I still dk what to do abt third sustain for jiyan mortefi tho rn

I was using baizhi for jiyan but it feels kinda awful

[dense elbow]

they nerfed changlis outro duration so it doesnt affect all of encores dmg anymore

on top of changlis kit just being not synergistic with encore at all

both are main carries rly

[limber imp]

Oh alr

[dense elbow]

idk how much potential changli has for quickswap though because we dont have swap frames

gonna do some more cooking in the coming weeks

[boreal oasis]

I was hoping srover would work as a 3rd sustain but

[dense elbow]

no ones rly looked at her coz of jinhsi

[boreal oasis]

Doesn’t look like it

[dense elbow]

for jinhsi??

[boreal oasis]

Yeah

[dense elbow]

theyre fine for other teams

[boreal oasis]

But the stack gen

[dense elbow]

for jinhsi its griefing

[boreal oasis]

Is just like non existent

[dense elbow]

you lose half ur stack gen

lol

you rly need 2 coord attackers

[boreal oasis]

Rn since no jianxin my 3rd sustain options r grief asf

[dense elbow]

😔

sidenote

[boreal oasis]

I could try a yuanwu sustain setup but idk how fun that’ll be

[dense elbow]

theres no way i just saw someone in a comment on yt say "forte and liberation over skill?? everyone knows her skill is her main source of dmg like 70%"

do people not know how talents work???

😭

[boreal oasis]

No

[dense elbow]

if ur using yuanwu ur only other option is mortefi if ur not using verina

[kind turtle]

wuwa doesnt help that 😭

[dense elbow]

and mortefi yuanwu is 💀

[boreal oasis]

Yea

[dense elbow]

i mean they didnt read the kit at all they just go "oh skill dmg = skill talent" 😔

[oak copper]

same level of reaction to Yinlin S1 and someone going "omg 70% more skill damage is insane"

[dense elbow]

😭

[boreal oasis]

Basically rn I’m kinda griefed until sustain 3 comes out

Or I get jianxin

[kind turtle]

i mean her skill does do skill damage, and her alternate skill does do skill damage, but then her forte gives her an alternate alternate skill damage that scales on forte

[dense elbow]

most of us are tbf lol

i have jianxin but

she only rly feels alright with hrover

[boreal oasis]

Not good w encore yinlin?

[dense elbow]

yeah and skill 1 and 2 are just kind alright

skill 4 is the fucking nuke

😭

[dense elbow]

not tried it but i dont see a need for her there personally

her selling point for me is the grouping

[oak copper]

I haave 1 sacrificial Team that only does 1-2+3 and 3-2+3, so one good Team does both Bosses on the left and right and a second good Team will eventually do middle

[blissful tulip]

Jianxin feels very slow to actually sustain with

In comparison to Verina

[dense elbow]

yeah

shes no sustain for me

xD

shes just support

[boreal oasis]

Yeah that seems to be what whales r doing rn too

[oak copper]

and that sacrifical Team runs YangYang for grouping at the start of each waave and thats it

[dense elbow]

idk if i could clear aix with my jinhsi tho the res is fkn stupid

i need to invest more in my hrover tho

anyone other than my yinlin is kinda shit

then my jinhsi is fine

[blissful tulip]

I may just focus on two teams for now

[boreal oasis]

Oh I forgot if I do run yinlin jinhsi I can give stringmaster to encore

[blissful tulip]

Jinshi-SRover-Yuanwu, Chixia-Taoqi/Flex-Verina

[oak copper]

did this at UL41, now once I get my Jinhsi Team going I hope middle will be a thing I can do aswell

[boreal oasis]

Slightly feels like a dealbreaker when I think abt it now

[blissful tulip]

Jué's DoT counts for Jinshi I believe

[dense elbow]

my issue is having nothing for 1-4 😔

[blissful tulip]

And SRover's concerto regen is quite fast

[dense elbow]

no chars built enuf to tackle the other chambers to save some vigor

and my jinhsi aint doing it when its aix

[oak copper]

I did Yinlin+Cal+YangYang for 1-2+3 and 2-2+3 so Jiyan was doing both 1-4 and 3-4

[dense elbow]

no jiyan sadly 😔

maybe i start investing in sanhua as well

so i can do encore + sanhua / jinhsi + yinlin

[boreal oasis]

I think I may end up doing this

[dense elbow]

then hrover + danjin for a 3rd if needsbe

[boreal oasis]

Yuanwu sounds appealing for comfort but I want to give stringmaster to encore

[dense elbow]

yeah

being able to share it around would b nice

[boreal oasis]

And it’d be nice to run a jinhsi team that doesn’t necessarily need verina

[blissful tulip]

I may end up investing in a Ling Yang or Danjin team as a third

Ling Yang seems a little better

[dense elbow]

oh my jinhsi would keep verina at all times for me

😭

encore + sanhua + baizhi

then hrover + danjin + jianxin

[boreal oasis]

Oh ig that’s probably not a bad angle either

[dense elbow]

if i build mortefi i could play encore yinlin but

idk

cant share stringmaster then

[boreal oasis]

I kinda like Verina for jiyan tho

[oak copper]

if I give Verina to Jinhsi I need to figure out what to give to Jiyan

[boreal oasis]

Feels like any other sustain just takes too much ft and jiyan doesn’t love that