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cobalt apex
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i got 3 havoc dmg% on the electro% set flautist today

small bronze
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do we think geshu linn will be playable character?

grim grove
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I think the unknown god will be playable character

edgy cobalt
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sensible if they do it since day1

weary acorn
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It's their mascot I'd be damned if her edgy version won't come first tho

small bronze
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are we not getting a wuwa section on the discord

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just the lounge C_TaoHehe

weary acorn
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Just this one idt we have enough staff to cover more channels for this section of wfp

small bronze
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also has anyone experienced crashes on mobile or is my phone too bad

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cause framerate is okay it just randomly closes sometimes

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without any error

cobalt apex
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i crashed once on pc

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a few weeks ago

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it just randomly decided to not going anymore and closed

karmic crag
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whats like the best standard weapon?

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rn i got cosmic ripples and that it

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probably a bad choice but we move

cobalt apex
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sword for now

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but its still 1.0 so like

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who knows in the future

karmic crag
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ah sweet

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i got a c6 danjin too

hollow gorge
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this game is just pain. Two of those flautists are on set electro dmg bonus. If devs weren't adding 100% gold drop in next patch, I would have quit by now, since I keep getting on-set purples

cobalt apex
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feel you

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the echo system on paper doesnt sound that bad

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but when actually using it

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it feels so shit

small bronze
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but why min max so bad

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just enjoy the game

cobalt apex
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theres no content left

small bronze
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then grind or just wait A_smolhutao

cobalt apex
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thats the neat part

small bronze
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its supposed to be rng

cobalt apex
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when u roll shit

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ur 1 hour u put into grinding the echo

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went to the trash can

small bronze
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well you are aware now that its like that so you are either ready and prepared or just take a break

cobalt apex
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its like evolving backwards

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for a system like genshin

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u dont feel that way because u barely spend any time for the artifact

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so the echo system just feel worse in practice

small bronze
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na i did spend some time multiple days i grinded whole map for jiyan

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and i ended up with 63/230 so far

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and 130 er

cobalt apex
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yea i also spent the last 4 days grinding flautist

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5 on set electro%

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none went pass +10

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so i just waiting for 1.1 now

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dont have the motivation to continue rolling sadge

small bronze
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idk thats the "neat" part you gotta grind and its much more satisfying and a bragging right to show the juicy artifact

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nothing pushing you to play if u gonna have the best shit imo

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that system makes u wanna improve your character everyday

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MMO style

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grinding raids whole day A_smolhutao

cobalt apex
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if the whole day at least give me an improvement for my characters yea

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and not set me back -100000 echo xp and 150 tuners

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now i wish i can spend my resin on the domain that give talent mats

small bronze
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maybe they could tweak the odds somehow or give an element guarantee weekly or daily just to get the one u need idk but mostly thats the system and whole point of it

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i farmed 5 cyan birds

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and they all went shit today C_TaoHehe

cobalt apex
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~250 havoc dreadmane drops

small bronze
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its like trying to get an element goblet in genshin with the correct set

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and good substats

cobalt apex
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u dont spend time for that

small bronze
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i would think there are good paths to farm echos now to make it faster

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on the internet

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here they give you a choice and you can even farm the whole day, genshin you open use up your condensed and leave

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thats what i did today C_TaoHehe daily 4x clorinde arlecchino set and leave

cobalt apex
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thats why i said it feels worse to roll a bad echo than a bad artifact

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just my opinion

small bronze
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yea i get it everyone thinks different to me its crazy to read all the tc here with the characters that are not even out yet

cobalt apex
small bronze
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oh i guess true A_smolhutao

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oh also daily question whos banner is gonna be first do we know for certain now? C_TaoHehe

cobalt apex
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nothing is really certain until the version livestream

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but most likely Jinhsi then Changli

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we got banner leaks a while back

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lemme find

small bronze
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i think last time i counted i need 10k ~ astirite for a 50/50 im 5500/10000 and one day i want her and the other i question whether she will be fun

cobalt apex
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ill get Changli because she seems more fun and i like her more

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hope i wont lose another 50/50 C_TaoHehe

small bronze
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i like her more definitely too but then question is whether to wait for leaks for 1.2

cobalt apex
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drip marketing should be soon (?)

hollow gorge
# small bronze but why min max so bad

because that's the difference between 24 stars in ToA and 23 stars. If I can't push myself in the game to what I perceive my overall best, then I don't enjoy the game

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luck is also a skill, because you can often improve your odds in some ways. But when there are too many layers of gambling involved, it's just not worth it. And the current system is way too many layers

outer jetty
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Finally 100% in map, with few that I knew missing. If 1.1+ didnt grab me then I guess just gonna quit it till console version A_smolhutao

kind turtle
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E_OMEGARAZOR double crit but complete flunk on the rest

small bronze
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everyone building the havoc

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and i didnt even see what the mc havoc does

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idk how to even switch it (?)

blissful tulip
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Next to their name should be a small icon

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You switch elements that way like you would in HSR

blissful tulip
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Thought it was going to be much more expensive

cobalt apex
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its expensive tho

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on the mora

blissful tulip
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Same with the mora costs tbh

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Considering that it takes 50-60k to level up an echo to 25

small bronze
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did toa refresh

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or tmrw

blissful tulip
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Tomorrow

blissful tulip
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Level 80 Chixia and her weapon alone managed to edge out 21/30 A_HuPray, those with Encore or Jiyan should be breezing through

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Levelling up weapon + character to 80 costs around 530k mora total

cobalt apex
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talents will rip our credit wallet apart

blissful tulip
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Only 80k from level 6 to level 8

cobalt apex
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oh?

blissful tulip
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However, as in Genshin, they require 2 weekly boss drops

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Which will very likely increase to 2 per talent level from 9-10

cobalt apex
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what about the 2 sub trace top left and right

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how much are they

blissful tulip
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Identical costs to the ones unlocked at level 70

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3 5* talent materials, 3 5* enemy drops, and 1 weekly

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Not worthwhile in the slightest until you've built everyone else at a baseline

cobalt apex
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so its roughly 700k to get a char full build from 70-80 (without touching the subtraces)

blissful tulip
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Around that price, yes

cobalt apex
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and assuming only 2 talents from 6-8

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since the others arent worth it at all

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maybe 3

blissful tulip
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If you're focusing on a core of 4, you'd need around 2.8m mora, which at UL50 level is around 35 runs, 5.5 days including the daily reward of 20k mora

cobalt apex
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hmmge

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how much talent mats for a talent to go from 6-8

blissful tulip
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5 4*, 2 5 star

cobalt apex
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do we have infographic about talent mats drop chance for each UL phase?

blissful tulip
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Don't think so, not now

kind turtle
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i've only got UL40 rates

cobalt apex
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ig i can keep track of UL 50 rates when i get there

blissful tulip
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I can tell you the baseline min rolls, rest I just don't have the astrite or resin for

cobalt apex
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thats fine too

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i want to know how much time it will take to fully build a char from 70-80 resin wise

blissful tulip
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Around a week give or take

cobalt apex
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thats quite a while...

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rip ig

blissful tulip
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Seems that our main source of income regarding resources next patch is only via the exploration event

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The rest should give around the same as the fetch quest event we had a few days ago

cobalt apex
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will prob have to spend a few days on credits too

blissful tulip
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You definitely will, you get 80k mora per 40 resin in UL50

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They may give out more resources via devs listened bugs that will inevitably come with 1.1's earlier release

burnt shoal
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i just got jianxin how are you guys building her

blissful tulip
hollow gorge
burnt shoal
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i heard bell has healing bonus set and er set

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i think

blissful tulip
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It does

hollow gorge
burnt shoal
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ohhh

knotty fiber
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Fair chance of getting purple
Very low chance of getting gold

blissful tulip
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Was it? Idr it being this low

knotty fiber
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Because I farm everyday

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Getting min run is my specialty

cobalt apex
blissful tulip
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Thank you then, looks like UL50 is a decent improvement

kind turtle
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yeah my results

rotund drum
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oh tower resets today

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hopefully jinhsi saves the next one

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well resets tomorrow

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end of today

lilac hare
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Is jinshi good

rotund drum
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she looks op yeah

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they might nerf her though

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still one update left before live i think

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one beta update i mean

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they made her stack multiplier too high in the last update

small bronze
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you know this stuff just from the numbers

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without playin her yourself?

small bronze
rotund drum
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yeah

opal venture
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Just in time C_HuPepeSmile

rotund drum
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the game is literally like two buttons lmao

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its not rocket science

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i dont have to play the char to be like wow i pressed X and it did a lot of damage

vapid river
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ignore these

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my cal isn't fully built

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just comparing stats rn

keen jackal
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This game is sooooo shit

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blame the game not the player

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ive been attempting this for so long

ebon jasper
neat robin
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Is there any word on when we’ll actually get more hrover cons

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Id like s6 for that cr pls

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Summary of the whole x2 echo eventTevorLeWeirdo

high spindle
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litterally all

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from the entire thing all i could manage was a double crit droping +1 echo A_WheezeTao

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rest were full of either flat subs OR useless for the character dmg bonus subs

dense elbow
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GAME STOP

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I DONT NEED CRIT RATE ON THIS MF ANYMORE

neat robin
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Holograms on mobile suck so bad

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I hate this

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Half the time when I hit dodge its delayed by like 3s and I get oneshot

spare falcon
neat robin
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Got 21* before reset at least

karmic crag
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is there any point in keeping off set dmg bonus pieces

neat robin
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Nah

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Onset dmg%, or the atk/moonlit sets dmg%

karmic crag
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sweet

winged belfry
cobalt apex
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or just go atk set E_pepelol

edgy cobalt
rotund drum
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imagine if lion fuccboi was as cool as the elden ring guy

edgy cobalt
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at least lil bro has the best traversal ability next to the inferno bike and verina heavies

knotty fiber
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I kinda don't wanna go back to the ToA hell again Copium

cobalt apex
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ToA is so bad

neat robin
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Is this just a refresh or new tower for jinhsi /changli

cobalt apex
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tower for jinhsi/yinlin

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tho i dont get why they hate havoc so much

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like stop putting havoc res enemies into the tower please

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i swear to god

edgy cobalt
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wuwa gonna be so boring till 1.1 lol

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(we speedran the map)

neat robin
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Aint there only 2 days left of yinlin banner

edgy cobalt
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last time I heard of the patch release date its 29th but could be wrong

neat robin
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Her banner ends before patch end?
Or I misread 12 days as 2 days somehow. Which still wouldnt match up

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Jiyan-hrover was way more fun in tower though than mort was. Just quickswap between everyone except during jiyan ult

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I got 60k hrover ult which was satisffying enough for non-maxed echos

cobalt apex
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1.1 is 28th

outer jetty
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Other than 1st day code, Wuwa really dont have more code? A_smolhutao

burnt brook
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1.1 26th or 27th?

blissful tulip
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Could have been much worse

karmic crag
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how good is danjin

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i picked up the 5 star sword from the selector so i have a decent weapon option

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my danjin is also c5

opal venture
karmic crag
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ah i see

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would i rather build her or calcharo

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i find them both pretty fun to play

opal venture
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I’m calcharo main so not the best one to ask the question

karmic crag
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ah, lmao

opal venture
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Personally I find danjin playstyle is pretty average

karmic crag
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fair enough

night mantle
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Anyone waiting for 1.2 drip marketing?

forest dome
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jinhsi need to drop sooner

blissful tulip
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3 more days A_HuPray

burnt brook
weary acorn
cobalt apex
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surely camellya 1.2

weary acorn
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Ice actually needs an actual dps

small bronze
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guess how many birds were aero

night mantle
fickle kernel
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i wonder if thats an intentional 4minute reference

forest dome
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s6 danjin n jinhsi pray come home

hollow gorge
forest dome
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idk if they gonna change but thats the reliable info afaik

vapid river
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leifa is there a hard cap for energy regen?

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my verina is like 250er

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and that's probably so much more than she'll ever need

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yeah?

dense elbow
knotty fiber
vapid river
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err 218*

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bet

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not that she needs anything other than atk and er

grim grove
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For the realm is the final boss always resistant to the character you picked?

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Like when I used Yinlin it was always Thundering Mephis

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When I used Spectro Rover it was always the Mourning Axe

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Or was I just super unlucky

knotty fiber
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unlucky

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it was never beringal for me

keen jackal
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Holy shit finally

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i kept dying on the spin attack

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figured out by accident u can actually glide over it..

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3 days of attempts holy

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20 astrite this changes everything

lilac hare
cobalt apex
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surely one of them is correct dmg% E_pepelol

lilac hare
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They were all wrong

wheat moon
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😭

rotund drum
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i always thought jianxin was wearing a hat but its actually just her hair

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shes like jotaro joestar

night mantle
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3 days to goooooo

cobalt apex
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24 days left until i pull

fickle kernel
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sigh

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i want her but shes so scuffed

blissful tulip
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Please be good A_HuPray

knotty fiber
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I missed an ult cuz it jumped up

cobalt apex
knotty fiber
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I'm alr UL50

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and I can up my Jiyan to 80 now

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but I wanna try at lv70

hollow gorge
cobalt apex
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im kinda benching wuwa atm E_OMEGARAZOR

opal venture
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Im waiting to get Jinhsi to complete the tower, they changed first chamber of hazard tower to mephis which my calyinlin comp is scuffed C_TaoHehe

cobalt apex
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im getting tired of the 4 layers rng echoes

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ive rolled 15 flautists and cant even get an upgrade

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for my 2 good subs flautist

knotty fiber
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fusion set

hollow gorge
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I see

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do you have a 5* gun on him?

knotty fiber
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if I had an ER set as good as my fusion set then ez

hollow gorge
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maybe I should try a fusion set on him too

hollow gorge
knotty fiber
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5*

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lol

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I'm talking about ER set because of the ATK and dmg buff

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not the fact that I can't charge

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S2 Mortefi

hollow gorge
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I was asking more for myself, coz I don't think building dps mort is reasonable without a 5* gun

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and I don't have it

knotty fiber
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might as well just keep him as an outro buffer

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his dmg might be more sufficient at S4

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I'm only S2 atm so he's currently weaker than HRover for me even in Jiyan comp

ripe pollen
knotty fiber
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Copium 5-2 too hard

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andddddd there's still grouping here

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nice

cobalt apex
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kuro can we have venti or kazuha?

knotty fiber
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and then ppl who said Jiyan was weak cuz "we don't need grouping, endgame is just bossing"

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yeah we definitely don't

opal venture
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Whoever said Jiyan was weak is not trustworthy at all

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He alone making the game being easy mode

weary acorn
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Whoever said that undervalues the qol of starting a gacha game with a dpsE_pepelol

ripe pollen
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ease of use + aoe grouping + still top tier dmg output

cobalt apex
tawdry sapphire
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They went way too hard on this 3 cost echo E_OMEGARAZOR

ripe pollen
cobalt apex
grim grove
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When Changli walked in…

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Bruh

neat robin
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Finally cdmg rider with cdmg sub for encore

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But my 3 costs are pain

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60/225 crit with lv70 string rn

forest dome
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new patch drop soon pls

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hitting ul50 with poor resources

ebon jasper
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Thinking about yuanwu as coor slave for jinhsi
Bro can have perma up time of coor

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He use 3* heal glove + bell + heal set then verina go moonlit

cobalt cobalt
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Lol Jué

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Truly revali’s gale

dense elbow
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for reference lampy is 667.2% total but has slight dmg% buffs

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if that 500% is swap cancellable instantly thatd be pretty nice

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depends on cast time tho still

blissful tulip
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As well as constant, permanent off field uptime

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His damage leaves a little to be desired of course, but you can make him do around 3-5k+ at max potential per bolt I believe

opal venture
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Because you want to start your dmg rotation with Verina before going to sub -> core dps

ebon jasper
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yuanwu just there to spam E for coor uptime
verina outro spammer for moonlit

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theres no use for yuanwu outro
no need to give him uptime A_GaspTao

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maybe subdps at lv 90
cause someone is cooking yuanwu at lv 90

opal venture
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There are many reasons that will not be optimal

  1. Verina has ulti to bring coordinate atk, which gives 2 forte stack to Jinhsi. But she is same element with Jinhsi so she wont gain it if she is onfield most time when ulti is on. Meaning you want to ulti very soon so you can get more stacks early
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  1. Verina buffs stay very long and in line with healing set, also her outro stacking is quick at pre rotation, hence u want to use it soon as well
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For yuanwu, as quickswap sub he will work well with moonlit

dense elbow
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unfortunately yuanwus concerto takes ages to build

opal venture
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Actually no, only around 10s with 3 swaps

dense elbow
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imo youd kinda have to use verina on moonlit just coz she can reasonably get her concerto back

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do you have a combo you can list/show? A_HmmTao coz spending any decent length on time on yuanwu is kinda deadge imo

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we have concerto values so i can calc it out if u have a combo for me

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just looking at his data tho, yeah you aint getting this concerto easily 😭

opal venture
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I dont do calc i actually play the gane

dense elbow
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ok but concerto energy isnt affected by ER so if you give me a combo itll generate the exact same amount of concerto energy each time E_OMEGARAZOR

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so what you see on the sheet is what youll get in game

opal venture
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You start with yuanwu E -> Jinhsi BA 4 E -> Verina ulti -> Yuanwu ulti E echo -> Jinhsi echo -> Verina echo outro -> back to yuanwu and he is full

blissful tulip
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Neat, officially confirmed

opal venture
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If u are quick enough all this take 10-12s to perform

blissful tulip
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But I sincerely hope they fix a lot of the issues in 1.1

dense elbow
opal venture
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Its absolutely how it works when u can swap more and let them do dmg

dense elbow
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er

opal venture
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U can refer to Zajef video on how it works

dense elbow
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concerto energy only fills up when youre on field

opal venture
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Yes hence we do swapping alot to gain concerto

dense elbow
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and his coord attack only generates 1 concerto energy per hit

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thats not a lot

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😭

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actually thats not even his coord attack

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thats the detonation

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if you mean his forte gauge

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sure

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not his concerto

opal venture
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Do u have the gaunlet with concerto regen ?

dense elbow
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which can be used once every 20 seconds but it is nice

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you still need 100 concerto to outro

opal venture
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Im not on my PC now to show u but it works

dense elbow
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at s1 it gives 8 concerto

opal venture
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Since i used him in tower

dense elbow
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s5 thats 16

opal venture
dense elbow
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im not saying you cant clear with him E_OMEGARAZOR

opal venture
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Im referring that it works thats all

dense elbow
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i mean if taking a while to get concerto up is fine with you i aint stopping you

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but for a smoother rotation verina on clouds and yuanwu on rejuv would be nicer imo

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like verinas concerto values are a lot nicer on her basic talent

opal venture
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Fine just pick what is best for u

dense elbow
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if jinhsi frames are relatively long it should work out but not necessarily quickly? A_HmmTao

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assuming you can do like

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Intro E R B4 E Forte

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the B4 is kinda annoying but you need to do smth waiting for skill CD and without s5 concerto weapon youd need to anyways

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im not sure where yuanwus intro accelerates him to coz if it puts him at 4th BA already thatd be amazing

opal venture
# dense elbow Intro E R B4 E Forte

U need to split them into 3 swaps since this helps with gaining concerto -> energy on all chars as you can cancel more moves for more dps time

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And yea need to punch a bit after going from outro verina to him

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But as said it should work

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Or even better, if jinhsi has short framws, u can swap to jinhsi and build to her 3rd form with unison, then swap to yuanwu to do another intro and get concerto

dense elbow
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its a lot easier if we consider extreme evasions

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but obviously would like it to be consistent without that E_pepelol

opal venture
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Jinhsi kit most special part is that she can outro twice in short time

dense elbow
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unfortunately yuanwu intro doesnt accelerate is BA combo which is sad

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wouldve been nice to accelerate to B4

opal venture
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I have him at s3 so his atk spd is pretty quick already

dense elbow
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i have s6 + 1 dupe give me someone else E_OMEGARAZOR

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and no not more chixias shes also s6

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tbf main thing holding yuanwu back is 1.2s coord attacks E_OMEGARAZOR

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over time it stacks up vs other chars

opal venture
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Im thinking to play yinlin taoqi instead with taoqi healer set

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Taoqi concerto regen

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Now that is dog shit

dense elbow
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ok yeah taoqi is another breed of slow

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😭

blissful tulip
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Jinhsi Official Gameplay PV | Wuthering Waves
From their CN Official Account titled "正如岁主所说,你我会在此相遇" or
"As the Lord of the Year said, you and I will meet here."

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knotty fiber
kind turtle
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11pm to 6am 😔

opaque violet
ruby rune
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one day i'll reopen my wuwa smoge

night mantle
kind turtle
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UK

night mantle
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date might be bugged

kind turtle
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what a suprise

night mantle
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ohh wait

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isn't that good?

kind turtle
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well the servers will actually go up around 5 probably

night mantle
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maybe but banner won't

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its 3hrs after the yinlin banner time

kind turtle
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i'm not pulling so A_smolhutao

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i'm saving for 1.2

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need camellya

night mantle
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I am also thinking of waiting for 1.2 drip marketing before pulling

kind turtle
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the 1.1 drip was 5/4 days before release, so they arent on the same schedule

cobalt apex
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drip marketing schedule

kind turtle
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it will appear randomly

cobalt apex
night mantle
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I will wait 1 week and see....if nothing comes then jinhsi reviews will decide

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they haven't introduced any new character so camellya might be certain to appear

outer jetty
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ZZZ gonna take so much time by then A_smolhutao

kind turtle
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true 😔

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though i get to skip every story cutscene having already done it

night mantle
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many content creators are saying ZZZ lacks content is that true?

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I didn't got the chance to play the beta

kind turtle
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i guess it's just like HSR?

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there's no exploration for chests but there is a metric fuck ton of domain equivalents

night mantle
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will watch some streamers play it....if it turns out good then I will surely make space for it A_smolhutao

neat robin
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We winning

cobalt apex
dense elbow
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Clarification on Jinhsi Incandesence Stacks

Not sure if its helpful to anyone but for the few it is, enjoy.
TLDR: Coordinated Attacks trigger both the Elemental DMG 1 stack and Coordinated Attack 2 stacks at the same time, resulting in 3 stacks.

Long version: The conditions for each Elemental hit and each Coordinated Attack Elemental hit are all separate but can have multiple triggered on the same attack, allowing for Mortefi's Ultimate to count for Fire Elemental DMG and Fire Coordinated Attack DMG at the same time, granting 3 stacks every second / 3 seconds depending on if Outro is active or not. Because of this, you don't need to swap out for extra Elemental hits if you already have a character doing Coordinated Attacks.
(Oh and for people who were confused on the wording of her Outro, it applies to both the Elemental DMG and Coordinated Attack CDs, making both of them every 1 second)

rotund drum
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lel

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powercreep much

molten hazel
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So Mortefi best friend for her?

dense elbow
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Baizhi looking a bit better actually for healer slot too

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coz her coords are a buff applied to teammates

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giving her 4 / 6 if s4 guaranteed coords

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meaning 12 or 18 guaranteed stacks for jinhsi

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verina mark lasts 12s but buffs arent paused during ult timers

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so she gets like 8-9 coords which would be 16 to 18

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mortefi and yinlin stonks up for 2nd slot

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yuanwu still kinda deadge coz 1.2s coord attack rather than every second

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😭

rotund drum
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sounds like the coord cooldown is separate anyway

blissful tulip
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Level 80 gave them a nice boost A_HuPray

rotund drum
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so you only need one coordinator

dense elbow
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so you can run a fire coord attacker and a spectro coord attacker

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and get +2 from fire coord +1 from fire atk
and +2 from spectro coord (+1 from spectro atk would already be jinhsi)

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its not that it checks for each element then just if one of those was a coord as a 7th different thing

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so more coord attackers still better

rotund drum
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i guess its time to build cruisewing mortefi then

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hopefully they add a 4-cost healing echo in the future

night mantle
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I am sorry Changli, but I think I have to put my everything into jinhsi and her weapon E_OMEGARAZOR

clear stump
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Farmed void thunder since forever for this 🚮

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3 days into hrover

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I'm livid

dense elbow
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even though they have time slow

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buffs will still tick down

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so if you bellborne into ult you waste bellbone time

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verina mark only lasts about 8 seconds as a result rather than the 12 listed

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😭

opaque flume
dense elbow
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real

opaque flume
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ngl they might fix that

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seems like a glitch

dense elbow
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not smth thats listed as a glitch

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just seems like how they designed and feels like an oversight they aint gonna fix

opaque flume
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it wouldnt be super difficult to just add the same time slow to buffs

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ngl

dense elbow
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id hope it isnt

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but idk their buff system is kinda weird ig?

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well not weird

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but jinhsis outro doesnt just set her CDs from 3s to 1s

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she has 24 individual timers

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12 for 3s
12 for 1s

dense elbow
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which are then split into
6 for element
6 for coord element

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so when she outros it just disables the 3s ones and uses the 1s ones

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rather than edit the 3s duration to be 1s instead

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so mayb something with durations on that they couldnt do or didnt deem important enough if they did think about it?

opaque flume
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lmao

dense elbow
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if they didnt think about it then its simply just an oversight that probably wont change

opaque flume
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mid game moment

dense elbow
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genshin could never or smth (they definitely could and do)

dense elbow
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@vapid river finally got a good cdmg mainstat 🔥

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it low rolled to shit!!

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but sheeeeesh

vapid river
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all the cdmg

dense elbow
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and i still have 5.6% CR to get from fortes

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so 73.3%

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88.3% CR after passive

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im happy here for now other chars need the investment more

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wait i just realised i can still improve that final piece with a CR roll lol

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but holy low rolled to shit

vapid river
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i had a piece give me 10.5%

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cr

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then 3 flat stats in a row

dense elbow
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i had the same with a 21 cdmg...

vapid river
dense elbow
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but then it went to shit on the other rolls

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technically max CDMG you can get on a build

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5*21 + 44 mainstat

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+150 base

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lowest with mainstat

vapid river
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leifa... why are you using a calc to add these numbers

dense elbow
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quicker

vapid river
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what?

dense elbow
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i have like

vapid river
dense elbow
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3 tabs of the calculator open at all times

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as well as excel

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coz i just open it then dont close it lmao

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unfortunately i am on the low end of rolls

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😔

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its unfortunate how low roll i got

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😭

kind turtle
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😭 i use google sheets for everything

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i've just got a mega sheet with all my dumb numbers on

cobalt apex
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u should color those 😭

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or split them into different sheets please 😭

kind turtle
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Like 40% of it's stuff that I only use once, but I just remember where stuff is on the sheet

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Plus it's on the same sheet as my actual nilou calcs

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So A_smolhutao

neat robin
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Mid building encore
I realize now, that if I pull jinhsi she’ll be benched for at least a full week while Im rolling shit fusion pieces

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I havent even levelled encores string yet I barely finished hrover echos

opaque flume
lyric cargo
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How big is the update for 1.1 would be

dense elbow
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i can do a nice build without it tho

opaque flume
dense elbow
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just change weapon and 1 piece

opaque flume
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are you guaranteed the weapon on the weapon banner

cobalt apex
opaque flume
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or is it 50/50

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idk

cobalt apex
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guaranteed

dense elbow
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always guaranteed weapon

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if u get a 5 star

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you get it

opaque flume
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i might actually pull on weapon then ngl

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we get 10 free weapon pulls right

cobalt apex
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yea

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then 7 from the version shop

opaque flume
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when does the update come out

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i forgor

cobalt apex
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28th

opaque flume
cobalt apex
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7 in 1.1

opaque flume
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oh crazy

dense elbow
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they buffed it

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🔥

opaque flume
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W

cobalt apex
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ill have 28 weapon pulls in 1.1

opaque flume
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you are only what

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50 away?

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i forgot

cobalt apex
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roughly yea

opaque flume
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does soft pity work like genshin

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cause i got like a 78

dense elbow
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yeah its at 65

opaque flume
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which means it doesnt

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i didnt count tho

dense elbow
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altho feels less generous

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😭

opaque flume
cobalt apex
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i dont think we can confirm the soft pity system?

opaque flume
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interesting

dense elbow
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considering they give us the cumulative rate

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we technically can

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alongside pull aggregate sites

opaque flume
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i got a 78 which should be physically impossible if its 8% per pulls

dense elbow
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once enuf data is collected

opaque flume
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i think

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btw i think it was 78

dense elbow
opaque flume
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not like

dense elbow
opaque flume
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hard count

edgy cobalt
cobalt apex
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weapon in genshin is what

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7% per right

opaque flume
opaque flume
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it might be 7% tho

cobalt apex
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its 7% yea

dense elbow
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wuwa has higher base rates tho

cobalt apex
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since the base chance is 0.7%

opaque flume
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i just remember they fucked it up so 80 pity is impossible

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lmao

dense elbow
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0.8% for 5 star in wuwa right?

cobalt apex
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yea

dense elbow
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idk what cumulative rate is tho i aint on the game

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😔

cobalt apex
opaque flume
cobalt apex
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its 1.6% in genshin (char)

opaque flume
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hmm

cobalt apex
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so the pity system in wuwa is def less generous

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wait

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hsr and genshin have different system?

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i never knew that

dense elbow
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mhm

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same for zzz

cobalt apex
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lemme recheck everything

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genshin:
char: 0.6% (1.6%)
weap: 0.7% (1.85%)

hsr:
char: 0.6% (1.6%)
weap: 0.8% (1.87%)

wuwa: 0.8% (1.8%)

opaque flume
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im too lazy to check i just threw it into a simple binomial distro

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honkmimimi

opaque flume
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i mean it was worse

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but thats like

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race to the bottom

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r3 skyward spine having ass

cobalt apex
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yea C_TaoHehe

opaque flume
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i fucking hate skyward spine

cobalt apex
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the fact that u can lose twice is already shit (we dont talk about losing infinitely)

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and then on top of that

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u have the desired weapon being 37.5% rate

tawdry sapphire
opaque flume
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🤓

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bro is the hyperbole hater

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the embellishment extinguisher

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the magnification murder

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the amplification annihilator

tawdry sapphire
outer jetty
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There is a single 79 pulls lol

cobalt apex
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i sure hope theres something good E_pepelol

knotty fiber
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bring forth your data

opaque flume
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game isnt open

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sorry vro

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i just counted in my head

knotty fiber
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I pulled a couple pities on weapon and never reached that high anyway

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same with char

opaque flume
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this was with the standard weapon

knotty fiber
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char and weap have the same pity system

opaque flume
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i think it was pretty high

opaque flume
opaque flume
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interesting

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my luck was pretty good tho for other stuff i cant complain

cobalt apex
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outer jetty
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Oh just realized yinlin banner is gone

karmic crag
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dayum

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lucky i got her sig right before it went

fickle kernel
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no banner for like 2 days?

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weridge

rotund drum
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hopefully monthly shop reset saves wuwa until jinhsi does

blissful tulip
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Ready for Jinshi

cobalt apex
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ur ready for camellya

blissful tulip
#

60 pulls in first half should be enough

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Thank you Ling Yang for the early 50/50 loss A_HuPray

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What would I do without you

outer jetty
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76 gold and 232 purple echo exp only enough to 25+ 6 echoes A_GaspTao

cobalt apex
#

tho tuners and credits are bigger problems than xp tbh

outer jetty
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I just wait till 1.1 to continue echo gacha

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Got like 2.9m credits

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That i know isnt enough for UL50 char upgrade and echo C_TaoHehe

cobalt apex
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i only got 1.4m

blissful tulip
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I have 20000

forest dome
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same

karmic crag
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i got 28

kind turtle
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please....

cobalt apex
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A_HuPray gacha

weary acorn
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It's sucks checking for good rolls here it feels like I'm drowning my disappointment from getting glacio shit for my 3 cost spectro set then the stupid ass spectro decided it wants to roll flatsC_TaoHehe

dense elbow
cobalt apex
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genshin has like over 12h no banner yea

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since asia server has to wait for na server banner to end

dense elbow
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more commonly 71

blissful tulip
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Hologram Mephis is horrible, genuinely the worst designed boss in this game A_GaspTao

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Dif 6 changes make parrying Mephis not affect the Respawn time of the clone, but it disappears if you parry Mephis while it is on field at least

upper flare
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if i have yinlin wep would you guys reccomend me tryna get encore or go for jianxin

opaque violet
#

Changli stats

knotty fiber
#

my Changli minus weap

cobalt apex
#

i just have an infinite amount of unleveled on set fusion echoes E_pepelol

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im just waiting for the 1.1 credit cost reduce

blissful tulip
#

Same here but with the Spectro set

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Think I may abandon Calcharo entirely once I get Jinshi

clear stump
#

The 80:20 experience

knotty fiber
#

I ran out of credits and tuners

#

but have a decent amount of xp

cobalt apex
#

i currently have 70 gold xp and 300 purple xp

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need to use them somehow

neat robin
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I have nothing. No credits no tuners E_OMEGARAZOR

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Broke af

cobalt apex
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also the tuner/xp rate is so bad

#

i only have 350 tuners

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and infinite xp

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like what?

knotty fiber
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can't say I'm surprised at this point

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wait

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wrong channel lmao

cobalt apex
outer jetty
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Understandeable

knotty fiber
#

this happened in another server too

outer jetty
#

Same cope

knotty fiber
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cuz I'm too lazy to switch over and over

neat robin
#

I might just level whatever crap I have on encore rn
And then wait for jinhsi otherwise I’ll never be able to finish building them

knotty fiber
outer jetty
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BP should give 3* onset damage bonus A_GaspTao

cobalt apex
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BP is such a scam lmao

neat robin
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I thought it did
Then you get a bunch of random stuff

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I honestly got bp just for the cr blade

knotty fiber
#

BP also doesn't give a lot of credits

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which is a scam

neat robin
#

Though weapon banner is nice, i wanted to keep pulls for chars instead

knotty fiber
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cuz echo leveling uses just a fuck ton of credits

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dunno how much they're decreasing it

blissful tulip
knotty fiber
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but it uses way too much creds and xp

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and tuners

blissful tulip
#

800k to level up a character and their talents to UL50 level

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Wonderful

neat robin
#

Didnt they say they’ll refund credits when they change echo cost

knotty fiber
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nope

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Idts

cobalt apex
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o7 our credits

knotty fiber
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would have been nice

neat robin
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Mm

knotty fiber
#

but I don't think they mentioned that anywhere

neat robin
#

Maybe I just remember the one they already sent out from a couple weeks ago lol

knotty fiber
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that's the experience compensation

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1m

outer jetty
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I just checked BP, they do give 3* onset bonus damage but only 2 pieces from what I see, on premium side C_TaoHehe

neat robin
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I’ll read the notes when I open the game in a bit

outer jetty
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Just give us 5m credits then we gucci

knotty fiber
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did they really

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was it pre50

neat robin
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Need to start farming for ul50 soon
Halfway through 48 rn

cobalt apex
#

what are the chosable ones called?

knotty fiber
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malleable

cobalt apex
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lemme check

knotty fiber
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morphable is random

blissful tulip
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I bought BP and idr obtaining any 3 cost selectors

knotty fiber
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yeah

blissful tulip
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There are 11 random ones

knotty fiber
#

only from event

outer jetty
#

Oh yeah malleable

blissful tulip
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Judging from what we've seen in events it seems that we'll be getting 4-6 per patch E_think

cobalt apex
#

yea no seletor

blissful tulip
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2 from exploration
2 from the "combat" event
And 2 from Illusive Realm update

outer jetty
#

Terrible rate

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All goes to def or HP

knotty fiber
#

the amount of tuners isn't great either

outer jetty
#

I think only one of malleable I got is double crit

knotty fiber
#

compared to the amount we need to spend and what we got from refund

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30% refund is deadge

blissful tulip
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Or not

cobalt apex
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i have so much xp compare to tuners its actually sad

blissful tulip
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We're getting 4 A_GaspTao

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Assuming they keep the two malleables per event that has them

cobalt apex
#

theres no way this is legal

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i will run out of tuners 1/3 of the way into the xp

knotty fiber
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they said they would increase echo yield from events

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hopefully there would be more malleable or

cobalt apex
knotty fiber
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might as well delete all the morphables in BP and give us creds instead

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morphable is the most useless shit ever

cobalt apex
#

random shits A_CryLaughTao

blissful tulip
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Hopefully we get more shell credits from events

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It feels like we get none A_GaspTao

night mantle
#

No 1.2 drip marketing yet

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oh wait

kind turtle
#

camellya?

cobalt apex
upper flare
#

if i have yinlin wep would you guys reccomend me tryna get encore or go for jianxin?
i only use 2 teams atm, calch yinlin verina and hrover danjin sanhua

lament shuttle
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Encore can use it really well for a 3rd team

rotund drum
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hopefully camellya saves whatever element she is

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hopefully cryo or electro

clear stump
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Camel quick swap electro pls Copium

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Let scar be fusion

hollow gorge
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ffs, I was so happy, until I noticed Main Stat. Idk how this echo happened to get locked by me A_smolhutao damn it, playing this game is so much pain

clear stump
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When you cope so hard you forgot about main stat

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Havoc healer when Copium

hollow gorge
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nah, I lock echoes with main stats I use when I get them. So I don't look when I upgrade echoes. But this somehow happened to get locked

sterile swallow
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DPS havoc healer C_KEKTao

hollow gorge
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I am tempted to full send it to 25 to see if it's a perfect echo with ATK% and Liberation DMG and then leave the game for good C_HutaoYEP

sterile swallow
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No don't. That echo EXP too precious

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Just leave it there until they do actually release a havoc healer who also functions as a subdps

sterile swallow
#

At least they'll make good use of all stats Copium

hollow gorge
#

I just find echo upgrading experience so much worse than Genshin, that I am utterly not enjoying it. At least in genshin if your first two rolls didn't go into crit, you can already trash the artifact. Here you need to go to 20 or 25 to be sure, that you won't get a second crit, especially considering that the last roll is a decent 11% chance to get second crit. Add resource scarcity, and this is basically a system designed for torture

lament shuttle
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Also actually getting artifacts in genshin with the correct main stat is super tedious (try getting VV em pieces)

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It feels bad to roll now in wuwa but the game is pretty new, so our resources are scarce but echos being shareable between units is a big boon imo

clear stump
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Then there's the fact genshin have other ways to do dmg while wuwa it definitely looks like it'll be crit build all the way.

rotund drum
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they'll probs nerf/creep crit like they did in star fail

blissful tulip
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Not C0 but not C6

sterile swallow
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Why are these graphics potato A_GaspTao

blissful tulip
#

Reposted too many times

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Slightly higher quality

sterile swallow
#

Definitely at least c2?

vapid river
opaque flume
#

Are there wuwa codes

dense elbow
#

😭

vapid river
#

leifa

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finally something usable for cal

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idc if it has two flat stats

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😭

#

although

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this isn't terrible

dense elbow
#

its better than the dmg% rolls you got on the 2nd piece

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😭

vapid river
dense elbow
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whilst you also got double crit and some ER still

vapid river
#

but the er is pretty high

#

yeah

dense elbow
#

yeah it depends on if u need that energy

vapid river
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new piece is good

dense elbow
#

or if u can find it elsewhere

vapid river
#

nah he's good on er

dense elbow
#

but its most certainly a better flautist than the one u had before

vapid river
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i expect it from my 1 costs

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which aren't leveled up

dense elbow
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🙏

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60 CR prayge

vapid river
#

i need a new bird too

opaque flume
vapid river
#

like

opaque flume
#

Ez

vapid river
#

why basic/heavy/resonance

dense elbow
#

i think i sent my build the other day?

vapid river
#

you did

dense elbow
#

i got a new piece earlier tho

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1 sec

vapid river
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it's a nice bird

dense elbow
#

i got double crit on everything now thankfull

opaque flume
#

Does wuwa have like patch codes

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Or no

#

Btw

vapid river
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it was supposed to have 3 codes

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at launch

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but only 1 worked

opaque flume
#

Ya

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I know that

dense elbow
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ah i dont have a pic of the current build 1 sec

dense elbow
#

couldve just been fake

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😭

vapid river
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true

dense elbow
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sheep'd around

vapid river
#

though you'd think there would have been an official thing to have more codes

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like from livestream

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or something

dense elbow
#

yeah

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idk

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current build 🔥

opaque flume
#

Whale

vapid river
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i've done nothing

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since i got that one echo

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my cdmg main

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4/5 stats

dense elbow
vapid river
dense elbow
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my pieces have hella low rolled

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😭

vapid river
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it be that way sometimes

dense elbow
#

real 😔

vapid river
dense elbow
vapid river
#

ooooo

dense elbow
#

new on left, old on right

vapid river
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ye