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small bronze
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wat

barren drift
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phrolova is the girl who was with scar, camellya is the girl who stalked us, geshu lin is the past general of jinzhou

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if phrolova is confirmed im getting her

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and then camellyas

blissful tulip
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Honestly better than Yinlin's c1

night mantle
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you were building pity?

blissful tulip
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Sort of, I wanted to go for Taoqi and Yuanwu sequences

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And he came early

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Good god now I need to build 3 characters

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Sanhua, Ling Yang and Taoqi for Chixia

wheat moon
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verina's sequences any good?

blissful tulip
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Painful A_HuPensive

blissful tulip
wheat moon
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alr bet

blissful tulip
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Her s4 is alright as well for spectro teammates

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Her other sequences are very poor

wheat moon
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unfortunate

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looking forward to s2 tho

blissful tulip
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Best of luck

wheat moon
rigid shore
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i fuckin love wuwa

wheat moon
analog cliff
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genshin could never A_HuPensive

barren drift
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yeah thats the thing

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its only sus leaks though

limber imp
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Is changli good

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Also why isn’t there a tc for wuwa and HSR

oak copper
analog cliff
small bronze
oak copper
analog cliff
oak copper
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his illusion was already weird anyway. Its supposedly playing out past events, but at the end of his appearance it felt like he was actually talking to the current Jiyan, rather than just replaying a past conversation

analog cliff
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he made a big deal out of "freeing their souls"

oak copper
analog cliff
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but maybe it was all just a superstition, and there was no correlation between these echos and the real people that they echo

analog cliff
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which allows even tiny memories of the past to materialize

oak copper
uneven flame
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Retroact Rain I think is a natural occurrence in their world cause when the Threnodian uses it the illusions become real. But otherwise it's just illusions of the past

analog cliff
night mantle
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ohh we are theroycrafting for the first time C_HutaoYEP

cobalt apex
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lorecrafting yes

analog cliff
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not that im all that deep into the lore of this game, most of what they say still sound like jargon to me

oak copper
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explanation was quite muddy though, so there is room for interpretation for now

analog cliff
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i lowkey hate wuwa's "magic" system flavor. Its flavored on sound and frequencies and whatnot, but at the end of the day it doesn't feel any different than handwavy magic, they do not lean into this system and it ends up feeling so ambigious and vapid A_NotLikeHu

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compare that to the element system in genshin, which feel coherent and mixed into the every day of the world they inhabit

oak copper
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I think it has a bunch of cool ideas, but they are not presented in a concrete way, its all very "well, we dont know how it actually works" which takes away some of its character

analog cliff
oak copper
analog cliff
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it's not magical and mysterious, nor is it coherent and relateable, its in no man's land

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just, jargon

oak copper
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but tbf its also 1.0 and we may get a better picture soon enough

kind turtle
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there's descriptions on how some of the resonance stuff works, specific notes in the frequency align to different attributes which create the resonator's ability profile

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but none of it actually means anything

analog cliff
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exactly E_OMEGARAZOR

oak copper
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the scientific stuff is whatever

kind turtle
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my favourite magic system is mahouka, which is a very hard magic system so NilouKEKW

oak copper
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They gotta explain some things about the Etheric Sea and why there are Resonators. We don't need pseudo-scientifc gibberish on their details

lilac hare
oak copper
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We dont know how the hell pathstriders work in HSR, but we know where their powers come from in terms of world building

analog cliff
oak copper
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I find the ideas themselves intriguing enough to give them the benefit of the doubt for a start, but at some point they need to give more insight on how the world works as a baseline

analog cliff
# oak copper I find the ideas themselves intriguing enough to give them the benefit of the do...

mhm, i think a big issue as you say is a lack of baseline. magic systems that rely on understandable concepts, like the elements for example, have years and years of context, which makes it easy to hop on and understand what's special about that specific flavor. But when you want to build a new system from the ground up, you gotta actually start from the most basic and simplified building blocks of how it behaves. They drop musical themed words at us and expect us to reassociate it as if we are familiar with their world for years E_pepelol

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writers brainrot thinking we live inside their brain A_HuPensive

oak copper
analog cliff
oak copper
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so now they gotta put some substance behind the fancy words

analog cliff
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like, think of zelda BOTW, It has all of these Sheikah technologies that were left behind. The actual way they all work remains a mystery to some degree, and they still manage to explain it gently enough to not overwhelm, and leave room for wonder

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imagine if every time we interacted with something related to the sheikah, an npc will dump on us an essay with words we never heard before to explain how it works E_OMEGARAZOR

steady knoll
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so more lore dump dialogue

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it's now fuck around to find out

analog cliff
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they make it harder and harder for me to ignore the skip button A_HuPensive

lilac hare
limber imp
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Ngl genshin needs a skip button

lilac hare
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How is jinshi looking btw?

limber imp
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Cause aside from AQs And SQs I really dgaf

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Like world quests bore me so much

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But they have good primos

limber imp
cobalt apex
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changli doesnt look too hot

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i mean she looks hot

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but isnt hot

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ok that was so bad

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she looks hot but her kit doesnt look too hot

analog cliff
blissful tulip
cobalt apex
graceful jetty
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second try gladge

olive osprey
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Anything that's not acrhon quests and character stories of units I like is just skippable yapping

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Wuwa alrdy has a skip button

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Now it just needs actual endgame content and auto/sweep for stamina usage

ebon jasper
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No go read that 1 million pages of bee movie script and facebook minion memes

neat robin
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I feel like I need a cr dreamless on rover
Idk

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I’ll only have 66-70 cr in the end with current pieces

lament shuttle
neat robin
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Ah. True

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Isnt that s6? How long before they give us that though 😔

lament shuttle
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No clue but 70% crit rate is good nonetheless

blissful tulip
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Do we know if the healing sonata stacks with two teammates?

blissful tulip
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It does not A_HuPensive

dense elbow
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More free shit

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Nice

kind turtle
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LETS GOO

blissful tulip
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Because if so, neat

dense elbow
burnt shoal
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woa july 4

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they really timed it so that wuwa players won't quit for zzz

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rip

outer jetty
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2x TC drop barely allow single 25+ while dropping 2x more echo garbage. I will take it I guess A_smolhutao

kind turtle
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a single +25 per day hoo boy

kind turtle
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my updated data on tacet field drops

fickle kernel
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what is U540

kind turtle
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fuck

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ul50 but only smarter people can read it

fickle kernel
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just admit ur a whale

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dirty refresher

kind turtle
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😭

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it's stolen from fobm4ster's streams

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i'm still 45

fickle kernel
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im stuck at 16 stars in tower

kind turtle
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im on 15

fickle kernel
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echo gated but no way im farming before level 21

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is there an eta on 1.2 drip marketing

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i forget when 1.1 dripped

kind turtle
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jinhsi may 17th, changli may 18th

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5 days before release, so expected drip on the 23rd and 24th

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assuming they keep it

fickle kernel
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god i hope it's 2 flops

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gonna be so poor for 1.2

kind turtle
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camellya will be there so no flopping at all

fickle kernel
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if it's really camellya i maybe need to skip jinhsi T-T

cobalt apex
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at least UL 60 can reduce it to 6 runs

night mantle
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what's the point if none of them has same main stat and set

cobalt apex
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thats the neat part

opaque violet
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Got this from tacet field today A_HuPray

cobalt apex
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its alright

kind turtle
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is it dropsx2 or 2 drop chances

opaque violet
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Drops x2

kind turtle
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the cringe method

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unfortunate

cobalt apex
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x2 the xp at least

opaque violet
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Just doing it for echo xp and tuners

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Also union xp

night mantle
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Flat atk seems to be better then %bonus dmg

cobalt apex
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dmg% was never that good unless its like 80% of ur char dmg

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for split dmg% like hrover any dmg% is worse than flat atk

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and flat atk itself isnt even too far behind atk% for it to be irrelevant

olive osprey
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It's not that flat atk is good, but specific dmg% substats are bad

cobalt apex
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its because most of the options we have are awful E_pepelol

olive osprey
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Nobody has a specific dmg% as 80% of their dmg

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True

cobalt apex
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closest is calcharo i think?

cobalt apex
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which is just enough rolls for an echo

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lets just hope we wont get a bennett so atk stays good

olive osprey
edgy cobalt
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forgot if I logged in today cuz hsr 2.3 grind

signal nebula
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wanna ask about jihnsi and changli but not surege

barren drift
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u can

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their kits are in the pins kekw

signal nebula
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LMAO just saw thanks!! not sure which one to pull bc theyre both main dpses

barren drift
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ay

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19 mins ago

tawdry sapphire
signal nebula
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Though the dialogue when it does appear is sometimes still rough

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why has yahtzee reviewed this game first before genshin

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hearing normal older western gamer fanbase play these games is really funny. like it highlights just how shite the average gacha is bc all the critiques are rooted in the fact that its a gacha game

cobalt apex
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people who dont play gacha games have a very bad impression about them

signal nebula
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and its frankly well-deserved

fierce tinsel
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fossilized brain

cobalt apex
fierce tinsel
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idk, if game's good, genre wont matter at all

cobalt apex
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thats true

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also u can hate the games all u want but dont take your anger on players

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dont like something is an opinion after all

signal nebula
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I think criticism of gacha as a genre is deserved but I also feel like ppl miss out on the fact that these games get popular, esp in asia, bc they're free. Countries like the ones in Southeast Asia often don't have the income to justify big triple A titles nor the time to invest in indie titles, so gacha is like the monkey paw deal in between

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Its predatory and probably needs like 800 ratings but thats just the reality of it. I think you kinda have to accept that fact when viewing any gacha game of any kind. Theres a ton you can criticize about wuwa but the basic gacha mechanics of it is the least of its problems

fierce tinsel
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the thing is

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that's not how westerners argue

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westerners argue that genre = quality

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most of the time

cobalt apex
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sadly

fierce tinsel
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like, they legit think triple AAA+++/COD = peak

neat robin
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Ew

cobalt apex
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also i hate how players being seen as the games they played

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thats so screwed

fierce tinsel
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I agree, but if you're a tectone fan, you are clearly mentally ill

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just as a sidenote

neat robin
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Hes annoying af I hate when his videos pop up

fierce tinsel
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look forward for the day his credentials

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get hacked

cobalt apex
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my timeline doesnt even have him

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luckily

barren drift
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ive gotten 2 electro onsets 2 fusion onsets 2 spectro onsets but no aero onsets

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...

fierce tinsel
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deserved

barren drift
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my god

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3 fusion onsets

cobalt apex
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i have like 6 fusion onset havoc dreadmane

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tho that prob will be useful since im getting changli

neat robin
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How do I get in this place
The npc keeps kicking me out and I want the chests

cobalt apex
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its a quest and even tho ive done it i have no idea where u get it

neat robin
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I have no quests in my list stressedcat

night mantle
neat robin
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Ooh

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Will go check there

olive osprey
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Ppl (me included) play these games to look at hot anime waifus or husbandos

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WHy is that bad

signal nebula
olive osprey
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~440K subs counts as one of the most popular reviewers huh

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What kind of marketing did kuro do in the west kek

blissful tulip
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He used to be part of a larger channel before he disbanded and went as a solo reviewer

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Was one of the main reasons for the escapist retaining its popularity for as long as it did

ebon jasper
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Any1 got s2 r1 verina variation?

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Wat her rotation looks like

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Cause w variation

Swap > Basic 345 > skill echo jump cancel > mid air forte > outro

Wondering if s2 removes basic 345

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That is from 0 concerto tho

rigid shore
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wat tacet field do u guys recommend farming

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@blissful tulip halp

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here my charas

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havoc and charcoal are mostly built 44111

blissful tulip
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I'd recommend pulling Yinlin for Calcharo if you can, but if not, you can build Mortefi or Yuanwu for Jinshi if you're willing to pull her

rigid shore
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alright

river pasture
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I have 35 standard pulls and a 5 star selector with me.. what should I do? Use them on standard weapon banner or standard character banner?

rigid shore
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recommended to use standard pulls on weapon banner

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since you'll lose 5050 on event banners and get standard charas

lilac hare
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What characters want Moonlit clouds?

barren drift
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sanhua can use it

lilac hare
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Alright, I do have some good pieces

barren drift
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any character that wants to buff the next character ig

cobalt apex
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mortefi

keen jackal
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NUCLEAR ENCORE PIECE THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING.

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ANOTHER NUCLEAR PIECE (i ran out of exp)

uneven flame
blissful tulip
uneven flame
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Just like me frfr whenever I get double crit it low rolls to oblivion

keen jackal
cobalt apex
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6.3 tho E_pepelol

keen jackal
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my encore pieces have been shit this entire time and i havent played her that much but now ive been farming for her

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i just do the tacet field everyday

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with fusion and electro

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cuz yinlin

cobalt apex
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not like we have anything else to do

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and its more efficient to just farm bosses at UL 50 so

keen jackal
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i dont really need to lvl up anyone now

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other than verina but like shes good at lvl 60 who care

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jiyan, yinlin, hrover, encore are at lvl 70

cobalt apex
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its just tacet fielding until UL 50

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then u farm bosses/talent mats until ur done with ur all carries

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and back to tacet fielding

keen jackal
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i swapped my encore to cdmg main stat thanks to that piece

cobalt apex
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👏

keen jackal
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im using bp weap on her so i just need a few decent crate rolls and ill be good

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i need to swap my hrover to cdmg main too

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now that i got standard weap

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nuclear dmg this changes everything

kind turtle
cobalt apex
small bronze
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we get nothing out of getting 140+ survey points right

blissful tulip
small bronze
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also the upcoming exploration mechanic with turning into the ice thingy

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i hope they will really make use of all the echo

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so many cool ideas can be implemented

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to make exploration more fun

small bronze
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4350 exploration is max right?

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cause it shows 4350/4500

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but i have 100 everywhere A_smolhutao

cobalt cobalt
edgy cobalt
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I keep getting electro on set heron in tacets

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I have a double crit er electro heron already

clear stump
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This piece of shit just never goes double crit

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My 5th +25 flautist where it's missing one of the crit

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Triggered af

knotty fiber
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only 5th A_smolhutao

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it's still fine

neat robin
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Every single piece on my cal has rolled crit & def now 😭

knotty fiber
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has he reached 1.4k def?

neat robin
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Not yet

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I think I got him down to 1.2k with a flat def instead of 10% def piece 😭

outer jetty
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All my team has +20 gold echo because lack of echo exp C_TaoHehe C_TaoHehe

neat robin
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Jiyan is full +25
Cal & Yinlin are a mix of +20-25
Hrover +15-25
(Mostly got the 4costs to 25 first)

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Mort and verina are solid +5 sets

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And I think my encore is about 65/170 ratio rn with only +10 echos
String too good

opaque violet
opaque flume
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what is yinlins off field damage counted as

floral bone
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skill, coordinated atk

opaque flume
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like does it fall under a dmg%

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would it be resonance skill dmg then ?

floral bone
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skill dmg yea

rotund drum
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180/240 daily resin on tacet field lmao

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might as well call it taceting waves

cobalt apex
rotund drum
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i like how 90% of the chars have some super useless bs on their passives like "get 10% dmg bonus for 5 seconds when you do a plunging attack from out of combat" then yuanwu's is just "automatically win whenever you swap out"

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mandatory passives lmao

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in ar-gated game

burnt shoal
rotund drum
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too old

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hes probably 9.5 for jinhsi comps if you dont have yinlin actually

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which most nonwhales probably dont if they save for jinhsi herself

wheat moon
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9.5 out of what?

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Yuanwu is free from ToA though A_HuTaoDerp

night mantle
rotund drum
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well the reason you want him specifically is the high-uptime CA

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he gets it for free just by swapping off

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literally dont even need to field him

night mantle
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yeah, but is it better then some 20-30% dmg bonus on your dps?

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coz others give that

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He can only pop off we get a 5* def scaling dps resonator

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He might directly jump to B or maybe even A if that happens coz of his S6

wheat moon
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Ow

night mantle
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also if we are talking about useless passives, then this is the worst one

winged belfry
opal venture
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This is the same dude said Dreamless was a hard boss with complex moveset or such, so I stop considering him seriously after that E_pepelol

rotund drum
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thats gonna be hard to beat

winged belfry
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It's not hard beating dealing next to zero damage

rotund drum
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90% per second from offfield on top of his usual CA is pretty good

opal venture
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90% of what

rotund drum
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jinhsi's attack

opal venture
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Are we still talkin about jinhsi

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And where even u get the calculation

rotund drum
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thats what we've always been talking about

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they megabuffed her

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2 stacks per CA lol

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at 45% per stack

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is wild

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mortefi and yinlin work too ofc

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all three of them are busted now with jinhsi

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mortefi uptime gated by being ult though

opal venture
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Verina has coordinate atk too just saying

rotund drum
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verina is spectro so she doesnt work with jinhsi

opal venture
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Lmao what

winged belfry
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Yeah

rotund drum
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read the kit

winged belfry
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It has to be different element

rotund drum
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she doesnt want damage of the same element

winged belfry
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They call elements attributes now

rotund drum
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this guy talking mad shit about coordinated attacks when he doesnt even know what they do

winged belfry
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What?

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Who?

opal venture
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Dont see it anywhere

rotund drum
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its right there dude

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last sentence

opal venture
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“Damage of the same attribute can provide up to 1 incandence…” means u gain stack with 1 element each time, meaning when she is on field and do atk with coordinate atk with verina, she wont get stack

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But when she is off field and others do it still works

rotund drum
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yeah so you take jinhsi and take 2 coordinated attackers

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3 stacks per second

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tbf

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i dont see the line about coordinated attacks giving 2 stacks on hakushin

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so that's either sus translation or nerfed

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3 x 45% per second still hella good

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you know who else does 145% per second on top of the support's actual damage just by mashing buttons randomly

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literally no one

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people coping over calcharo getting like 1000% damage once a year

winged belfry
rotund drum
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cruisewing or dodge

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if you need a heal then its just a dps loss

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either way

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you're just gonna have to cope

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you cant expect to have 33% of your team be sustain and still get full dps

winged belfry
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Man relax

cobalt cobalt
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Tbf I heard having supports at all is a dps loss

rotund drum
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quickswap is very good in this game

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its not like star fail where you just build one hypercarry and 3 supports

opal venture
rotund drum
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not having the option to switch to the quickswap nuke is a dps loss

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with almost every char being able to dump 3 skills worth of damage in 3-4 seconds

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and cooldowns generally being pretty short

cobalt cobalt
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Tbf tryharding too much on this is an IQ loss A_HuPensive

rotund drum
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eh its 1 E R Q 2 E R Q 3 E R Q repeat

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its like gbf

cobalt apex
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if u have 250 er yea

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good luck doing that

rotund drum
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you press R and if nothing happens you get Q instead

night mantle
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supports which take too much on-field time and don't give a significant dmg bonus are bad

cobalt apex
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q also has cooldown

rotund drum
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then you get swap instead lol

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just press them all

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its not guitar hero, there's no penalty

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didnt pay $50 to stare at icons etc

cobalt cobalt
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So just button mash

winged belfry
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I need to remind you, that there's this thing called Concerto, and that you usually want to fill that if you want your buffs or whatever your characters do

cobalt cobalt
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Truly the worst of fighting game players

opal venture
cobalt cobalt
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TELL ME WHY MY AUTOPLAY JUST USED THE BUFF ULT AFTER THE NUKE ULT WHEN THEY WERE BOTH AVAILABLE AT THE SAME TIME

night mantle
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Also her S2 makes all this discussion obselete

cobalt cobalt
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Anyway

rotund drum
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that only works once per fight

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we have this convo every day lol

winged belfry
cobalt apex
opal venture
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The game is more about good timing than button smashing

rotund drum
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out of combat =/= swapped out

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it literally means no mobs aggroed

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and you have infinite stamina

night mantle
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it should be lol, otherwise whats its use?

rotund drum
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that s2 would be outrageously broken if it didnt

cobalt apex
rotund drum
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you think they gave her an s2 that gives her a free 2000% nuke every 4s for doing literally nothing?

cobalt cobalt
winged belfry
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It's so you can start first rotation with a nuke

cobalt cobalt
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That’s all

cobalt apex
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game wants u to pull for s6

rotund drum
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its probably good in overworld echo farm

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depending on the size of the nuke itself

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run up, mob ded

cobalt apex
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thats just 2 mech abom but cost u 300 wishes instead

night mantle
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so other than that S3 is the only one which gives it?

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coz S6 is dmg multiplier

winged belfry
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Just triple dreamless for overworld farming

rotund drum
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that s6 looks actual memes though

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probably get s6 jinhsi instant clear tower vids

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(45 + 71)% x 50 opener

winged belfry
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Or you can maybe use jue depending on how well it'll preform as Echo

rotund drum
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jue looks pretty good too

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they removed the stupid multicast skill to stack the dot too

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now its just standard dot on skill use

night mantle
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I wished jue could help us in exploration and stuff like rider

rotund drum
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im actually not sure if hakushin is 100% up to date because it has like half the updates

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of the leaked post in pins

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like it has the update to jue damage but not the update to the stacking mechanic

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at any rate dot isnt gonna help that much for echo farming but jue should be op by default just because its a summon type

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and not a transform type

night mantle
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yeah maybe

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we can use this guy as flying rider lol 🙂

rotund drum
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the damage isnt actually that great but anything x 0 seconds is still infinite dps

olive osprey
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All the leaks website had mismatched EN texts during day1 of post buff jinhsi iirc

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Gotta read the CN text to make sure

cobalt apex
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yea

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changli sig's passive was written +12% cr in EN instead of +12% atk like in CN

burnt shoal
night mantle
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not motorcycle but a riding a flying dragon would have been cool

night mantle
wheat moon
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I'd like it if the motorcycle didn't actually just have an uptime

rotund drum
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it probably just walks around in the air

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like narkakos

cobalt apex
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i can finally uninstall the game now

blissful tulip
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This is his aim attack

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Calcharo's dmg reduction comes in use when you're forced to stay on him in Yinlin teams

burnt shoal
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always
once every 30 seconds

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rip

hollow gorge
#

ok, I will never again pull a main DPS that needs Crit Rate and Energy Recharge more than anything else like Jiyan. That fucker is an echo exp guzzler

#

like you need him to get CR CD and ER on all his echoes, or the guy is bricked

small bronze
#

but these are like stats that every character needs?

#

from dpses

hollow gorge
#

no, you need 115-120 ER on DPSes, not 140-150 ER like Jiyan

#

basically you must have ER subs on him

small bronze
#

idk mine is 130 and feels fine

hollow gorge
#

can you 3* floor 4 ToA?

#

if your rotations are longer, you need less ER, because he gets more off-field energy, If you get his warm up rotation to 10s or less, he needs more ER

#

he could probably do with 135-140 ER, but that is still 4 ER subs

small bronze
#

i dont do more than 18 as of now i cba to be honest

night mantle
#

Hmm, if we can 3* floor 4 at lvl 70, then what's the point of lvl 90? 🤔

night mantle
#

what's the point of grinding 3-4 hours and wasting tuners for 75 astrite

blissful tulip
night mantle
#

so getting 3 stars, but this time instead of 200s remaining I will have 220-240s

hollow gorge
hollow gorge
cobalt apex
#

otherwise its just a daily 15 mins game A_HuTaoShrug

night mantle
#

ohh okay

dense elbow
#

not sure if ppl have posted them yet

#

but theres some more beta changes apparently A_HmmTao

dense elbow
#

looking now

cobalt apex
dense elbow
#

only numbers i have are the raw source code of wuthering wiki so

cobalt apex
#

so prob no

dense elbow
#

gimme a bit

#

apparently a couple jinhsi nerfs and some changli changes

cobalt apex
#

changli changes A_HmmTao

dense elbow
#

21st June Changli Changes

Resonance Skill: Tripartite Flames

  • Can be cast in mid-air
  • True Sight - Capture DMG: 67%*3 + 133.99% > 81.88%*3 + 163.76%

Resonance Liberation: Radiance of Fealty

  • Can be cast in mid-air

Forte Ciruit: Flaming Vow

  • When casting Flaming Vow, DMG Recieved is reduced by 20% > 40%
  • Flaming Vow DMG: 32.42%*5 + 378.23% > 39.25*5 + 457.85%

Resonance Chain

  • S2: [Enflamement] increases Changli's CRIT DMG by 30% > Crit. Rate by 25%, lasting for 8s.

21st June Jinhsi Changes

Resonance Chain

  • S6: DMG Multiplier percentage for Resonance Skill Illuminous Epiphany is increased by 45%. The multiplier increase brought by Incandescence is additionally increased by 71% > 45%.
cobalt apex
#

C_KEKTaoWait actual changli buffs

kind turtle
#

we're changliback

cobalt apex
#

~20% MVs buff

#

for skill and heavy

#

not bad at all

blissful tulip
#

The mid air casting is very nice, reduces her clunk by a fuck ton

dense elbow
#

hmhm for sure

kind turtle
#

hang on i got 7 echoes...

#

so the xp mats are on pure double drop but the echoes are on two drop chances?

cobalt apex
#

weirdge

kind turtle
#

or there's some other weird interaction with 4* echoes

cobalt apex
#

are the 5* ones also double?

kind turtle
#

it was 7 5*s and 1 4*

#

that was the first time i hadnt got an even number of gold echoes during 2x

dense elbow
#

i imagine it doubles the echo drops but doesnt double the rarities

kind turtle
#

yeah

dense elbow
#

i got several 3 purples today

#

would make the most sense since the drops it shows are just echo drops, not guarantees

kind turtle
#

so that means the drop is of X echoes, then the rarity is determined seperately
rather than x-y golds and x-y purples

cobalt apex
#

most likely

#

they prob just slap 2X in

dense elbow
#

damn my bag telling me what we all knew

#

😔

#

dont need to confirm it for me tho

kind turtle
#

wait fuck i meant to claim the havoc set

cobalt apex
blissful tulip
#

On-sets drop so often in tacet fields for me A_LOLTao

#

It's absurd

cobalt apex
#

ive gotten 4 fusion% on the electro flautist

dense elbow
#

mfw i got 4 havoc dreadmanes with fusion mainstat but havoc set today

cobalt apex
dense elbow
#

i wanted to cry

#

😭

kind turtle
#

😭

dense elbow
#

coz i said fk it lets go gear hmc

#

rather than encore

#

😔

kind turtle
#

i got 0 havoc 3-costs today

#

literally 0

dense elbow
#

tbh

#

if u got atk% 1 costs i wouldve taken that

#

i rolled all mine and got jack shit

#

😭

blissful tulip
#

I've been getting nothing but glacio atk sets, good for someone I suppose as I'm building Ling Yang

kind turtle
#

true i do need to upgrade my 1-costs

forest dome
#

tryna stock on spectro bonus

dense elbow
#

tbf my yinlin is kinda the only well built char i got E_pepelol

#

next would be encore and the rest is just shit

#

😭

kind turtle
#

does it just like

blissful tulip
#

My HMC and Chixia are very well built, the rest are average

kind turtle
#

are the higher rolls actually in the game?

forest dome
blissful tulip
#

Taoqi, Sanhua and Ling Yang just got started A_HuPensive

cobalt apex
#

game favors low rolls afaik right

dense elbow
#

low rolls and high rolls are the same chances E_pepelol

#

except the top high roll

kind turtle
#

doubt

dense elbow
#

highest chance is direct middle roll

#

then it spreads out evenly from there

kind turtle
forest dome
#

got double crit 3 cost for my encore yesterday but like 6.3 crate n 12.6 cdmg PEPELA

dense elbow
#

but coz its uneven doing that, highest top roll gets reduced

forest dome
#

cannot do anything besides putting up with it

dense elbow
#

so lowest roll = 2nd highest roll basically

forest dome
#

me when i found those that rolled 10.5 n 21

cobalt apex
#

my only max roll so far

forest dome
#

i can only get 9.9 crate at most

kind turtle
#

my highest crate roll is 8,1

blissful tulip
#

My highest crit rate roll is also a 9.9

kind turtle
#

oh nvm, i've got a 8.7 on my sanhua's 4* moonlit heron

#

:/

cobalt apex
#

noway i have xp

forest dome
#

idt i even have 1 cost on double crit

cobalt apex
#

time to gamble

forest dome
#

i just ignore them

#

im saving up to roll jue PEPELA

cobalt apex
#

prob a bad idea

kind turtle
#

if i get an upgrade for my encore's saurian then i will have 100% crate

lament shuttle
#

Tf

dense elbow
#

from a friend, changli changes are about 6% increases over before with the current rot
Intro Echo ULT HA N1 E N1 E N1 HA N3-4 N1 Outro

kind turtle
#

no NilouKEKW

cobalt apex
#

nice i rolled 9 1 cost and none of them even went pass +15

dense elbow
#

rot may change later on but thats what we working with rn for 2 fortes and max concerto

kind turtle
#

when stringmaster is fully upgraded i'm at 93% CR

dense elbow
#

ok with a different rot shes not looking too terrible A_HmmTao

#

actually kinda nice ig

#

think of her as a more frontloaded yinlin i guess??

#

with the ability to play some onfield if you want

cobalt apex
rotund drum
#

is it over for the JSSIMPs

small bronze
#

i havent touched genshin exploration since fontaine came out, i 100%ed wuwa for now and now i dont even wanna touch genshin again C_HuCryge

#

1.1 waiting room C_HuCryge

#

and i got lucky enough to get both arlecchino and clorinde as f2p yet they are so boring after playing wuwa im all in wuwa simp now

cobalt apex
#

personally im already kinda burnt out of wuwa

#

prob going to do dailies until 1.1

neat robin
#

I’m taking it easy on exploration
Use stam once a day, do dailies

Ive already stressed over 100% genshin map

#

Want to keep wuwa happy for the combat

cobalt apex
#

i also want to do combat but theres no content to do

#

other than tower which is impossible to go further for now since dps locked

#

thats why i 100% the wuwa map (another reason is that ive already used all my pulls on yinlin so not really any other options E_OMEGARAZOR )

small bronze
#

i didnt play genshin on launch but it was probably dry too i assume

neat robin
#

It was

small bronze
#

when all my friends played genshin i would hate on it to play it a few months later

#

and then i stayed and they all gave up on it C_TaoHehe

neat robin
#

The early events were also.. ehh

#

I think some could be refined and brought back tbh
But spending resin to claim event rewards was bad

small bronze
#

lmao was that a thing

cobalt apex
cobalt apex
small bronze
#

genshin exploration is nice but idk the characters seem so simple now maybe im overreacting but like me getting arlecchino and clorinde they are cool but too easy?

#

also clorinde being another keqing ult

#

seems so cheap

cobalt apex
#

i feel like clorinde was very well designed kit wise and power wise

#

not the most unique but theyre not badly designed at all

small bronze
#

i regret pulling even though i won 50/50

#

i opened genshin and just wished after long time

neat robin
#

Needed an atk-only electro
Tired of everyone needing dendro unless you’re raiden hypercarry

blissful tulip
#

This game's defining aspect over Genshin for me is the more interactive combat

#

I like Genshin's combat as well, but Waves' is more traditionally hack n slash

neat robin
#

For sure

blissful tulip
#

But I'm already worried after seeing the Changli vs Crownless footage

#

Feels like PGR all over again

neat robin
#

I didnt play pgr. Whats the issue? Just duplication?

blissful tulip
#

No, just the combat being non-interactive to me
It's a personal issue I have with the action gachas available besides Waves and upcoming ZZZ

neat robin
#

Ah where you just spam atk and kill stuff

blissful tulip
#

In other words, iframe spam

neat robin
#

I want more of the parry and dodge counter mechanics
But time limit restricts that.. need to dump out dmg fast instead of actually using combat mechs

blissful tulip
#

I don't fully mind this, it just comes with being a gacha A_HuPensive

lilac hare
#

I just hit ul 45 A_GaspTao don’t know which weapon to get

#

I’ll pick the sword

#

Though no idea if I’ll change the selected weapon from the banner to gun

#

Since I picked sword there too

lament shuttle
kind turtle
#

Right now before I have it, it's 199% Vs 207% as well

edgy cobalt
#

meanwhile I'm at 75:180
or I can go 50:240

#

stringmaster encore gang rise up

#

goal is 70:240 and I can chill tbh

hollow gorge
#

well, except for Alpha, but she wasn't always the best choice

blissful tulip
hollow gorge
blissful tulip
#

It only really started around Stigmata imo, anything earlier was fine

hollow gorge
lament shuttle
kind turtle
#

I used (crate*(cdmg-1))+1 to make it equal to the genshin formula

lament shuttle
#

Like in the screenshot in game

#

Unless I’m misunderstanding?

kind turtle
#

Yeah?

#

You don't remove the base crate for crit multi comparisons

lament shuttle
kind turtle
#

250

lament shuttle
#

ok yeah

kind turtle
#

Wuwa includes the base damage

#

So more annoying but whatever

#

It's just different

lament shuttle
#

It’s confusing

neat robin
#

Wuwa dmg is just dmg * cdmg%
Genshin dmg * (1+cdmg%) no?

floral bone
#

ye wuwa just shows the +1 already added

blissful tulip
winged belfry
#

You are worried that she does so much atakcs that she almost auto counters Crownless?

blissful tulip
#

Not that, Jiyan's also capable of doing so and I find him just fine

But the way the VFX are handled, the way the animations look overly flashy makes me worried for combat depth in the future

winged belfry
#

you got be joking

blissful tulip
#

I could be entirely wrong once we actually get Changli on our hands, of course

#

I am not, it's just a personal gripe of mine, I completely understand that this sort of combat is fun to many

winged belfry
#

I mean, no one forces anyone to play spam style units

#

You can do the Calcharo route of careful animation cancels and all

#

of less hits, but more powerfull ones

#

Some people enjoy that spam. I personally like Spectre Rover over Havoc Rover because of that

blissful tulip
#

I am worried regarding Iframes and ignoring general combat mechanics in favour of said animations, I do not mind spammy playstyles if you still have to pay attention to the enemy

#

But yes, some enjoy it, and that's perfectly fine, I just elaborated on what you asked

winged belfry
#

You just said Jiyan is fine

#

And you cannot parry everything

#

So while Crownless is parry heavy, she won't be able to parry enemies that don't have a lot of pariable attacks

blissful tulip
#

Think we may be misunderstanding eachother's points

Either way, we'll have to wait and see for more footage to develop a more conclusive answer, it's why I said I was worried to begin with

winged belfry
#

Yeah, we'll see how she'll turn out

#

I'm pulling her regadless

blissful tulip
#

Best of luck, I'll go for Jinshi

#

Hopefully first half pulls are enough

sterile swallow
#

Next week cannot get here fast enough

#

Ready for Jinhsi banner E_worryGibPrimogems

rough brook
#

which ones do I pick for calcharo?

rotund drum
#

people are generally recommending lingering tunes for calcharo now but if you've already built thunder set just go with that

rough brook
#

I just came back to the game I literally have nothing on him 😭

#

so um which one is the thunder set

outer jetty
#

Void set, the one with electro damage+

rough brook
#

but which one of them gives me that?

#

or is it randomized

kind turtle
#

check the description of the item

#

it tells you all of them

outer jetty
#

You can search and filter set by clicking on the bottom

#

Filter "void" set

rough brook
#

thank you for the help!!

#

as soon as I come back to the game I did one pull

#

can I use her with calcharo?

#

or do they have no synergy

outer jetty
#

Yinlin work as a subdps and has outro skill buffing Calc

#

So yes

blissful tulip
#

Calcharo's best teammate is Yinlin

#

Does force Calcharo into a slightly more rigid playstyle due to the way her outro works

stuck wharf
#

outro is bait

#

quickswap is the way

kind turtle
neat robin
#

Thats just bad luck damn

clear stump
#

It's a feature

cobalt apex
#

i love rng

karmic crag
#

what activity gives the most world exp

#

as in the equivalent of whatever the adventure rank level thing is

cobalt apex
#

dailies and resin spending E_pepelol

karmic crag
cobalt apex
#

they all give the same

#

7.5 xp/resin

karmic crag
#

ah

cobalt apex
#

world quests and exploration dont give much

karmic crag
#

ive already done all my world quests and i cbb exploring anymore

cobalt apex
#

u can prob get like 1-1.5 level by 100% the world

karmic crag
#

im tryna get as many primos as i can for yinlin sig

night mantle
#

yeah dailies give 2k and 240 resin gives you 1.8k, so total 3.8k daily. Although we have 2x exp rn so add 1.3k more to it

cobalt apex
#

im pretty sure ive done all the xp sources in the game

karmic crag
#

my exploration is liek 80-90% for most locations too

night mantle
karmic crag
#

tyty

cobalt apex
#

ill need another 8 days to reach UL 50 so until then im just chillin

karmic crag
#

i just hit lvl 44 and im praying i can hit 45 before patch ends

#

i need the 1k gems from lvl 45 to get yinlin sig

cobalt apex
#

should be easily

#

the patch is in 6 days

karmic crag
#

i thought it was 3

#

or was it 4

night mantle
#

yeah prob 10k exp needed...you will get there in 2-3 days at max

karmic crag
#

ah sweet

#

thanks alot

cobalt apex
#

the 1.1 patch is on 28th

karmic crag
#

oh also i wanted to ask, how good are jinshi and changli lookin rn

cobalt apex
#

jinhsi is goodge changli isnt as goodge

night mantle
#

check pinned msg for their details

winged belfry
#

Raw numbers are mostly meaningless

cobalt apex
#

tho kuro is pushing out changes like once a few days rn

#

so who knows whats going to change

karmic crag
#

ah cool

winged belfry
#

As for Jinhsi and Changli, they don't really have best teammates

cobalt apex
#

3 supports in the entire game moment

winged belfry
#

So I wouldn't be surprised if they end up like Neuvillette before Furina

cobalt apex
#

Yae pre dendro C_TaoHehe

winged belfry
#

Strong, but since they don't have any synergistic teammates, their output would be limited

#

Both deal majority of their damage as skill damage

#

And if I'm not mistake we don't have any skill buffers

#

Nor fusion or Spectro buffers

winged belfry
#

That requires using Taoqi

#

Who's running in for the worst unit in the game

opal venture
#

38% deepen is no joke tho

#

I will

cobalt apex
#

let them cook

opal venture
#

Especially after buff all her dmg after incarnation changing to skill dmg

winged belfry
#

Taoqi gains concerto at snails pace

opal venture
#

I know that

winged belfry
#

To get outro you need concerto

opal venture
#

But we will see

winged belfry
#

How will you get over that?

opal venture
#

Discord and fast rotation i suppose

cobalt apex
#

we will never know until we test it E_pepelol

winged belfry
#

Because ideally, Jinhsi's teammate needs to gain concerto twice per 25s rotation

cobalt apex
#

tho im not pullinh Jinhsi so whatever

winged belfry
#

Yes, Jinhsi wants split rotation

#

But right now, only two characters have concerto build up fast enough for that rotation

#

Sanhua, who can be usable

burnt shoal
#

what if the team runs fav weapons

winged belfry
#

And Verina who's not recommended because she's Spectro

winged belfry
cobalt apex
#

i give up on upgrading echoes

#

ill just stock up my xp until changli comes

neat robin
#

Like me

#

I took the first pieces that rolled cr and kept them

outer jetty
#

If dev listen so much, complain until they add specific substat reroll. A_BaldTaoO

karmic crag
#

are devs listening cause they have to or are devs listening cause they care

burnt shoal
karmic crag
#

not really

night mantle
#

ahh we are getting free 30 pull (10 each) in 1.1 though

keen jackal
#

wtf

#

its already been a month of wuwa

#

my monthly abt to expire in 2 days

#

feels like game launched like a week ago

keen jackal
#

holy shit new device is calling my name i cant beat lvl 80 monke hologram cuz i keep lagging

cobalt cobalt
#

Lolol

#

“Take this and stop complaining”

karmic crag
#

ong

upper flare
#

do i just buy wishes

#

i tried getting yinlin wep but i am running outta time

#

currently at around 60 ish wishes

opaque violet
#

Go for it

upper flare
#

aight bet

#

i got nothing wtf 💀

outer jetty
#

But like, how much pity now?

#

70+ should be near guaranteed

upper flare
outer jetty
#

Wtf, that is so unlucky

upper flare
#

yea....

outer jetty
#

Should end by 26,maybe just enough 4 more pity to guaranteed if you daily

upper flare
#

i have a bunch of unfinished and low exploration

vapid river
#

are tacet fields broken?

#

i'm only getting lingering echoes and healing set

#

regardless of which one i go to

dense elbow
#

💀

#

I've not done my fields today

#

I'll check later

cobalt apex
#

wha A_WheezeTao

#

idk i just did one

#

and it was normal

vapid river
#

and now

#

i get spectro

#

and the fusion/electro one

#

???????

#

hello?????

cobalt apex
#

o7 wuwa classic

vapid river
#

WTF

cobalt apex
#

lemme try rq wait for me 2s

vapid river
#

this is an outrage

opaque violet
#

Another report issue E_OMEGARAZOR

vapid river
#

yeah

#

i just clicked on the tacet field thing in the menu

#

it highlighted the wrong fucking tacet field

#

?????

cobalt apex
#

so its not tacet field giving wrong sets but menu giving wrong tacet fields?

vapid river
blissful tulip
#

Has anyone gotten luckier echoes with Tacet fields?

#

It feels like that's the case A_LOLTao

cobalt apex
#

uh no not really

#

i got 2 on set echoes

#

from 5 days

vapid river
#

feels about the same?

#

idk

#

and no it could have just been me being dumb or something

#

but ik i clicked the electro one and it sent me to lingering tunes/spectro

blissful tulip
#

Unfortunately will have to skip two days, I'm 2 days away from UL50 and my mora count is dangerously low

Need 1m just to level up rover, Chixia and their talents to UL50 level A_GaspTao, let alone investing in the other 6 characters I like

cobalt apex
#

o7

blissful tulip
#

God mora costs are expensive, and you do not get much outside of the domain as well

cobalt apex
#

1.1 will save us

#

trust

cobalt apex
vapid river
#

ye it works for me now

#

but i clicked on the electro/fusion one

#

and it took me to this one

cobalt apex
outer jetty
#

I just gonna wait till 1.1 reduced cost before further echo gacha

rotund drum
#

is it even possible to max the superturtle in SU

#

i dont think there's enough cryo blessings

neat robin
#

Ive done it once

#

Somehow

#

Never maxed any echo again

#

I think you need to get lucky with the ‘unknown’ people they can give the keys for +3 blessing points

midnight bloom
cobalt apex
midnight bloom
#

where

#

source

cobalt apex
#

in the official page they posted like 3 weeks ago E_OMEGARAZOR

midnight bloom
#

in CN and JP it's translated to echo events

cobalt apex
#

thats the echo yield

#

theyre different statements

midnight bloom
#

which point

cobalt apex
#

2

#

4 was the mistranslated one

midnight bloom
#

2 is about shell credits

cobalt apex
#

yes

midnight bloom
#

oh you guys were talking about shell credits

cobalt apex
#

thats what they were talking about

midnight bloom
#

nevermind then

cobalt apex
#

we're running low on both sources tho

#

both credits and xp/tuners

#

sadge

midnight bloom
#

farming shell credits before ul50 is the best value

#

waveplates wise

cobalt apex
#

yea but tuners for gamble

midnight bloom
cobalt apex
#

my 1.3m credit will prob get nuked when i reach UL50

edgy cobalt
#

yea I probably need like 5m

upper flare
#

what weapon type is changli

#

and jinhsi

#

think jinshi is greatsword

sterile swallow
#

Changli is sword, Jinhsi is broadblade

opal venture
#

So close A_DedTao

grim grove
#

What set and mainstats for pure shielder Jianxin?

hollow gorge
#

probably the healing set with either ER or ATK

#

Moonlit set should be fine too

clear stump
#

First try on a havoc piece. Meanwhile void thunder have been shit despite farming it for a month. C_HuCryge

limber imp
#

Rq who are changlis best teammates

#

And do those possibly include calcharo or jianxin

clear stump
#

First dreamless cdmg

#

Fuck void thunder

neat robin
#

Got 2 lv25 and 3 lv20 echos now
and lv70 sword

clear stump
#

I can't believe I spend a month for void thunder and get shit

#

Even when I get double crit for void, it low roll as hell

grim grove
neat robin
#

Need a double crit rider for encore next

keen jackal
#

NUCLEAR ENCORE PIECE THIS CHANGES WVERYTHING

#

1 more piece and my encore is done

#

My 2nd 3 piece has NO CRIT

#

😭😭

#

I just need a high roll crate and ill reach 74 crate

#

Iirc

#

PLS KURO GAME DOUBLE CRIT WOLF 3 PIECE FUSION DMG ER BADIC ATK DMG SKILL DMG

#

I need to lowk stop using stringmaster on my encore more than yinlin

blissful tulip
#

Heartbreaking that I'll only reach UL50 when ToA resets

edgy cobalt
#

I’m only at 46 idk how much astrite refreshes you’re doing

blissful tulip
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More than a few

edgy cobalt
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definitely a shit ton from what it looks like

cobalt apex
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im at 47.5 no refresh

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so like 50 refreshes?

edgy cobalt
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I misread my UL, so we're on the same boat

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still a ton of refreshes to be at 49 though

barren drift
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they need to add excess xp rewards though

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maybe some echo/reso/weapon xp reward

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would benice

small bronze
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they already added the 20 extra tiers i think its enough tbh

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not everyone can play hard daily so they give extra time for other people

cobalt apex
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cant expect something even decent for f2p

cobalt apex
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so it makes sense

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for non-refreshers like us it will be like the first day of 1.1 for us to reach UL 50

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which isnt that bad tbh

small bronze
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noway tacet field gave me the correct thing for once