・wuwa-lounge

[rotund drum]

jue is gonna break the game probs

[rotund drum]

i like how the game says yuanwu runs a boxing gym but he actually does jeet kune do

they probably couldnt afford the rights from bruce lee's family

[tawdry sapphire]

Who pinged

[night mantle]

@tawdry sapphire

me

[tawdry sapphire]

[night mantle]

[rigid shore]

bricked again

[neon frost]

standard 5* weapon prio should be Sword > Broadblade, yea?

[night mantle]

I would say sword, gun > Broadblade

[neat robin]

Sword is good
Argueably blade if you dont plan on getting jinhsi sig and want to use cal/jinhsi… the 4* options are basically nonexistent

[night mantle]

my heart hurts seeing chixia on lvl 1 3* weapon

[neon frost]

I'm certainly gonna try, going into Jinhsi's banner with 40 pulls and a dream

[neon frost]

resource trickle is too slow, I'll build her next year

[night mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-chixia-frown-gif-17140255557794752493

[rotund drum]

im building midwu just for fun

[fickle kernel]

holy fuck

i could not beat level 5 of illusive realm all this time

finally went to youtube to look up a guide

noticed they were doing like 10x my damage

could not figure out how

[rotund drum]

its funny that no one likes lingyang because he's a fuccboi

but no one likes yuanwu because he's old

[fickle kernel]

started a run, got to the boss, still do no damage

[rotund drum]

you literally cant win

[fickle kernel]

left and came back and suddenly was doing 10x dmg

like the buffs werent applying unless i left and came back or something wtf

[neat robin]

No one likes lingyang cuz he does shit dmg for hogging so much field time

[night mantle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1247553875196641281/1252477291921936476/Screenshot_2024-06-18_at_9.47.24_AM.png?ex=66725be0&is=66710a60&hm=17bb6efca39f9e2f30af04488f8c94655120c455ba2f4e60e8c8e6ac504aeed1&

[edgy cobalt]

what are you running

I just ran jiyan on inferno build and went for as much blessings as I can stack

[fickle kernel]

no like it was bugged

i was doing 200 dmg autos stage 16

since the game released

could not even get him to half hp in the time limit i was so confused how everyone else clearing it

but when i left and came back dmg was normal and killed him in 30 seconds

[knotty fiber]

picked wrong buffs

[edgy cobalt]

game is bugged in general sometimes my mortefi ult just flies up in the sky instead of attacking the mobs when I jiyan ult

[cobalt apex]

@knotty fiber

yooo

[outer jetty]

What is substat roll variance?

It look massive

[outer jetty]

40%

Wow

[cobalt apex]

2nd lowest cr roll but idc

this is a great piece

also wuwa favors lower rolls

so

[outer jetty]

That is a shit design

They could at least introduce substat reroll.

[rigid shore]

quick swap echo user

[knotty fiber]

imagine

I enhanced all 6 of my vheron

all garbage

[cobalt apex]

😔

[outer jetty]

Relatable

[knotty fiber]

fraudist also garbage

[cobalt apex]

maybe i stole all ur vheron luck

[outer jetty]

I wish tacet field got 4x reward

[cobalt apex]

got this one from tacet field not even farming

[knotty fiber]

tfw my DEF is almost as high as my ATK

[cobalt apex]

[outer jetty]

100 er
Yinlin doesnt need it?

[knotty fiber]

she does, but not so much

but in this case, it's not me who chooses to have it or not

it's my echoes being too garbage

[cobalt apex]

my calcharo only has er rolls

[outer jetty]

That atk tho

[knotty fiber]

if only I could roll this on an electro one

I'd be content

[cobalt apex]

21 cv roll 👀

this this gets atk% this is going to be the perfect calcharo piece

but knowing how this game roll it will prob be def

[knotty fiber]

pains me when alr low rolls but can't get 4th usable line

first roll and last roll

[cobalt apex]

double def

[knotty fiber]

I wanna fix these 2 first tho

tfw 4/5 of my echoes have DEF

[cobalt apex]

why did u continue after seeing liter dmg% on the havoc prism

[knotty fiber]

lack of tuners

lack of xp

I had to cope

lib dmg is good for her

[cobalt apex]

worse than skill tho

[knotty fiber]

it's just too low and I didn't expect to not get any cdmg

[knotty fiber]

not really

if the ult is up quickly enough is about the same

her ult is really big

[cobalt apex]

but ur er

[knotty fiber]

nah

it's actually fine

like

not as bad as ppl think

[neat robin]

I just want more atk 😔
I’m at 65/200 ish cal & 60/230 yinlin but only 1.3k atk

[knotty fiber]

just like how ppl think Jiyan needs 40% ER to work

but I can make him work with 26%

[cobalt apex]

i see

[knotty fiber]

am I missing it

or her judgment strike isn't considered skill dmg

I'm not seeing it in her kit

[cobalt apex]

it doesnt say yea

[night mantle]

pin this plss

[cobalt apex]

its already pinned lol

first msg by leifa

[night mantle]

ahh sry

[cobalt apex]

dont worry it can be difficult to see since many links

[small bronze]

wait what was the sub stat table?

i thought crit dmg was 10-20

[barren drift]

ul 40 mat domains drop golds

nice

[kind turtle]

https://ww.hakush.in/

[cobalt apex]

yo this sword is kinda hot now

[opal venture]

Damn now this is a sig

[cobalt apex]

cant load jinhsi's broadsword

so no idea what are the changes

[cobalt apex]

this convinced me to pull for her sig

even as a crit stat stick this is huge

[dense elbow]

did they miss the jinhsi buffs?

[blissful tulip]

56% skill dmg%, 12% crit rate and 48% crit dmg with the highest base atk we've seen in a weapon so far

[opal venture]

Looks like they gonna go serious and make her a more proper dps

[blissful tulip]

No wonder the weapon banner is 100%

[cobalt apex]

also anyone has the old changli's stuff?

cause i cant seem to recognise any changes on her

maybe its numbers

[dense elbow]

compiling rn

[cobalt apex]

all the 5* (except rectifiers) have the same base atk

tho the amount of crit and dmg% is huge on this one

[blissful tulip]

Technically the highest by 1

The other 5* weapons have their base atk at 587 iirc

[cobalt apex]

588 unfortunately

[dense elbow]

im not seeing any changli buffs at all

[cobalt apex]

[dense elbow]

hakushin did update

coz they have the jinhsi changes

[cobalt apex]

we got scammed

[dense elbow]

Jinhsi Changes

Forte Circuit

Jinhsi can hold up to 40 > 50 Incandesence.
Incandescence additional multiplier per stack: 26.84% > 44.54%

Resonance Chain

Sequence 2 - Jinhsi recovers 40 > 50 Incandescence while staying out of combat for more than 4s. This effect can only be triggered 1 every 4s.
Sequence 3 - Gain 12 Incandesence and a stack of Immortal's Descendancy after casting Intro Skill Loong's Halo. Every stack of Immortal's Descendancy increases ATK by 25%, for up to 2 stacks, lasting for 20s.

[cobalt apex]

wait 44%?

[dense elbow]

numbers at T10

[forest dome]

wait is that like double the mv

[cobalt apex]

holy changes

[dense elbow]

[blissful tulip]

That is a 65% increase in MV

And an extra 10 to boot

[forest dome]

holy baller

we are so barrack

[cobalt apex]

what is this 👀

changli kit is in the ditch

[dense elbow]

removing the S3 changes coz it moreso looks like they bugged it out

ok yeah they just bugged it out

[cobalt apex]

[dense elbow]

well actually

they removed the incandesence gain

[forest dome]

ima get changli sig for danjin

frfr

[cobalt apex]

is jinhsi sig still updating?

[dense elbow]

ok yeah they nerfed s3

Changli Signature - Blazing Brilliance

Base ATK: 587
ATK%: 36.4% > CDMG%: 48.6%
Increases CRIT Rate by 8% > 12%. Upon dealing damage, increases [Searing Feather] by 1 stack, gaining 1 stack every 0.5s. When Resonance Skill is releases, increases [Searing Feather] by an extra 5 stacks. Each stack of [Searing Feather] increases Resonance Skill DMG Bonus by 4%, stacking up to 14 times. After reaching 14 stacks of [Searing Feather], all stacks will reset within 10s.

jinhsi sig got updated too

[cobalt apex]

i guess my hakushin is just cornge then

[dense elbow]

ok i see why its not up

its just

completely bugged lmfao

[cobalt apex]

[dense elbow]

yeah im not posting that till thats fixed

its fucked in both CN and EN

[cobalt apex]

rip

[dense elbow]

1.1.6 Changes

Jinhsi

Forte Circuit

Jinhsi can hold up to 40 > 50 Incandesence.
When characters with Eras in Unity deal Damage with an attribute, Jinhsi gains 1 Incandescence. Damage of the same attribute can provide up to 1 Incandescence every 3s. When coordinated attacks deal damage, Jinhsi gains 2 Incandesence. Damage of the same attribute can provide 2 Incandesence once every 3s.
Incandescence additional multiplier per stack: 26.84% > 44.54%

Resonance Chain

Sequence 2 - Jinhsi recovers 40 > 50 Incandescence while staying out of combat for more than 4s. This effect can only be triggered 1 every 4s.
Sequence 3 - Gain 12 Incandesence and a stack of Immortal's Descendancy after casting Intro Skill Loong's Halo. Every stack of Immortal's Descendancy increases ATK by 25%, for up to 2 stacks, lasting for 20s.

Changli Signature - Blazing Brilliance

Base ATK: 587
ATK%: 36.4% > CDMG%: 48.6%
Increases CRIT Rate by 8% > 12%. Upon dealing damage, increases [Searing Feather] by 1 stack, gaining 1 stack every 0.5s. When Resonance Skill is releases, increases [Searing Feather] by an extra 5 stacks. Each stack of [Searing Feather] increases Resonance Skill DMG Bonus by 4%, stacking up to 14 times. After reaching 14 stacks of [Searing Feather], all stacks will reset within 10s.

Jinhsi Sig - Ages of Harvest

Base ATK: 587
CRIT Rate: 24.3%
NEW PASSIVE: Gain 12% additional DMG Bonus for all Attributes. When casting an Intro Skill, you gain [Yearly Essence] which increases Resonance Skill DMG by 24% for 12s. When Casting a Resonance Skill, you gain [Blessings], which increases Resonance Skill DMG by 24% for 12s.

Jué

TLDR: Removed stacking DoT duration, lasting for 15s flat now. Added +16% Resonance Skill DMG Bonus for 15s after casting.

[blissful tulip]

We're getting weekly bosses already?

This is sudden

[clear stump]

That sword with innate crit=20% crit and 48 cdmg.

[dense elbow]

🔥

[cobalt apex]

thats fast

[blissful tulip]

I'm aware that the hp scaling may be wrong but why does Haku mention that Scar and Mephis have the same hp

[dense elbow]

ok theres more changes

Jinhsi Sig - Ages of Harvest

Base ATK: 587
CRIT Rate: 24.3%
OLD PASSIVE: Gain 12% additional DMG Bonus for all Attributes. The wielder is bestowed with divine blessings and gains 1 stack of Blessing of Ages for each Basic Attack strike, for up to 4 stacks, which is removed when the wielder leaves the field. At 4 stacks of Blessing of Ages or more, the wielder consumes all stacks of Blessing of Ages when casting the next Resonance Skill, with its DMG increased by 48% for 2.5s. This can be triggered 1 time every 6s.

NEW PASSIVE: Gain 12% additional DMG Bonus for all Attributes. When casting an Intro Skill, you gain [Yearly Essence] which increases Resonance Skill DMG by 24% for 12s. When Casting a Resonance Skill, you gain [Blessings], which increases Resonance Skill DMG by 24% for 12s.

theres another jinhsi buff that is only in CN atm

[cobalt apex]

next week changli buff surely

[dense elbow]

"When coordinated attacks deal damage, 2 stacks of Incandesence will be granted, damage of the same element can trigger this at most once every 3s"

[oak copper]

very subtle how she is intended to be played

[dense elbow]

i wonder if she wants yinlin / mortefi now

[oak copper]

guess Jiyan can still use Aalto worst case

every 3s still sounds slow though, how often does she use that nuke?

[blissful tulip]

Have to make her strong somehow

These are some huge buffs

[dense elbow]

her outro changes that 3s to 1s

[oak copper]

alright

[dense elbow]

basically gives us:
Yinlin, Yuanwu, Mortefi and Baizhi to use

[opal venture]

So in short taoqi + sanhua + jinhsi not gonna be good ?

[dense elbow]

no not rly

[opal venture]

[dense elbow]

[opal venture]

F me i was this close to stack my taoqi

[dense elbow]

if you want the specific CN wording

it implies we can get 3 stacks per element

1 from a dmg instance

and 2 from a coordinated atk specifically

[oak copper]

Yinlin is easy to conceed, Cal goes tot he shadow realm. And Mortefi is easy if no Jiyan, with Jiyan I guess gotta see if its worth conceeding Mortefi or if you just use Yuanwu/Baizhu with Jinhsi

[dense elbow]

youre gonna use baizhi in the last slot regardless imo for her

frees verina for others

and baizhi has coord atks

[oak copper]

bold of you to assume I haven't already given up on healing

[opal venture]

U can just use aalto for lower floor and morte for upper floor

[dense elbow]

i mean you dont take healing for the survivability

[opal venture]

Throw him 5p moonlit and he good

[dense elbow]

baizhi grants the same 20% ATK and 15% All Type DMG Amp as verina

[oak copper]

healing set I guess?

[dense elbow]

as well as bellborne + rejuv

[oak copper]

faair enough

[dense elbow]

35% atk, 15% final dmg, 10% dmg bonus, 50% dmg reduction

just for healing once and outroing

if coord attacks are separate from normal hits

verina is still an option

coz jinhsi will attack for the 1 stack of dmg on field
verina coords will hit for the 2 stacks

[oak copper]

That would be quite handy

[dense elbow]

added the full way its translated to pins

jue also got changed but i cant rly see how coz fucked up

also removed stacking mechanic

Jué

TLDR: Removed stacking DoT duration, lasting for 15s flat now. Added +16% Resonance Skill DMG Bonus for 15s after casting.

[forest dome]

when better option than yinlin comes out…

[dense elbow]

ok

that should be all the changes

im not seeing anything for changli

[outer jetty]

Btw does Calcharo ever appear in story or quest? I dont remember his appearance

[blissful tulip]

Danjin and Calcharo have no role in any of the game's current stories

[outer jetty]

I guess later then

[blissful tulip]

Jinshi definitely seems very good, may end up going for her for the strength alone
This early on worries me, though

[dense elbow]

doesnt look like jinhsis outro got buffed to include the coordinated attack stuff, so if it doesnt include that then it doesnt look like adding coords really changes much? 😭

however

her basic attacks during Incarnation are now fucking skill damage????

ok we got some more changes

i get to split the pin thank fuck

[forest dome]

taoqi stocks…

[dense elbow]

Jinhsi

Forte Circuit

• Basic Attacks in [Incarnation] are now counted as Skill DMG.
• Jinhsi can hold up to 40 > 50 Incandesence.
• When characters with Eras in Unity deal Damage with an attribute, Jinhsi gains 1 Incandescence. Damage of the same attribute can provide up to 1 Incandescence every 3s. When coordinated attacks deal damage, Jinhsi gains 2 Incandesence. Damage of the same attribute can provide 2 Incandesence once every 3s.
• Incandescence additional multiplier per stack: 26.84% > 44.54%

Resonance Chain

• Sequence 2 - Jinhsi recovers 40 > 50 Incandescence while staying out of combat for more than 4s. This effect can only be triggered 1 every 4s.
• Sequence 3 - Gain 12 Incandesence and a stack of Immortal's Descendancy after casting Intro Skill Loong's Halo. Every stack of Immortal's Descendancy increases ATK by 25%, for up to 2 stacks, lasting for 20s.

Ages of Harvest

Base ATK: 587
CRIT Rate: 24.3%
NEW PASSIVE: Gain 12% additional DMG Bonus for all Attributes. When casting an Intro Skill, you gain [Yearly Essence] which increases Resonance Skill DMG by 24% for 12s. When Casting a Resonance Skill, you gain [Blessings], which increases Resonance Skill DMG by 24% for 12s.

Jué

New effect:
Summon Jué to leap into the air, dealing 48.64% Spectro DMG to the enemies and bringing forth Lightthunder. Lightthunder hits up to 5 times in total, each dealing 19.46% Spectro DMG to the surrounding enemies. Then Jué spirals downward to attack the surrounding enemies, dealing 48.64% Spectro DMG two times in a row.
When casting Echo Skill, gain [Blessing of Time] for 15s. When [Blessing of Time] is active:
Resonance Skill DMG +16%;
When Resonance Skill hits a target, the target will receive 16% Spectro DMG once every 1s, counted as Resonance Skill DMG. This lasts for 15s
CD: 20s

Changli

Forte Circuit

• When casting Enhanced Heavy Attack, DMG Recieved is reduced by 20%.

Blazing Brilliance

Base ATK: 587
ATK%: 36.4% > CDMG%: 48.6%
Increases CRIT Rate by 8% > ATK by 12%. Upon dealing damage, increases [Searing Feather] by 1 stack, gaining 1 stack every 0.5s. When Resonance Skill is releases, increases [Searing Feather] by an extra 5 stacks. Each stack of [Searing Feather] increases Resonance Skill DMG Bonus by 4%, stacking up to 14 times. After reaching 14 stacks of [Searing Feather], all stacks will reset within 10s.

[cobalt apex]

ill keep coping for changli buffs

[night mantle]

I would wait for changli buffs...if she doesn't get it and jinhsi seems to be a pretty good option

[cobalt apex]

i will get changli no matter what

[dense elbow]

her sig got buffed incredibly tbf

its ALOT better than the current 5 star sword now

at least on her

[cobalt apex]

yea

the sig buff is huge

[night mantle]

I went for yinlin sig...so probably I won't be able to go for her sig unless I win an early 50-50

[blissful tulip]

Imagine the 4* options

I wonder what the percentage difference will be

[cobalt apex]

50% diff

incoming

[blissful tulip]

Possibly more

[dense elbow]

ive seen some numbers floating around the sig is now almost 30% better than the 5 star sword

when before it was equal

but take that with a grain of salt

[cobalt apex]

[dense elbow]

https://youtu.be/5_xqb416S7o

me when jinhsi buffs

[blissful tulip]

Dear god if it's a 70% difference I will genuinely be shocked

[forest dome]

so barrack

also how is her sig against other options tho

for jinhsi

[oak copper]

Trading 36% ATK for 56 CV being a 30% increase sounds wrong because 56 CV alone are 30% dmg at best and thats fairly generous to assume

[dense elbow]

thats what i was thinking

i aint the one doing the calcs tho

mayb some rotation change from before that made it pull ahead even previously i was unaware of?

but like

[oak copper]

That would be a lot more plausible

[dense elbow]

not too many ppl doing changli stuff so

im just reporting

most ppl waiting till jinhsi is out to start changli

[oak copper]

just as pretty simple example. Assuming a 70/240 ratio ->
0.7 * 1.4 +1 = 1.98
0.74 * 1.88 + 1 = 2.39

2.39 / 1.98 = 1.207 -> 20.7% increase

[dense elbow]

hmhm

[oak copper]

and thats ignoring the loss of ATK%

So its likely closer to a 10% increase, maybe less

[dense elbow]

like

compared to the 4 star options

that sounds a lot more reasonable to me lmfao

so im assuming the rot changed if it makes better use of that skill dmg bonus

[oak copper]

Yeah, it had to be a good bit better than Emerald to begin with to be anywhere close to 30% ahead

[dense elbow]

oh well ill wait for more to look at her and see what they get lmao

im hoping her base gets some buffs tho

cant be leaving her in the dirt like this lmfao

[oak copper]

ngl with how the 4*s in this game are I have little hopes for anything w/o their sig

[dense elbow]

yeah

too bad im poor af

[oak copper]

or any functional 5* atleast

[dense elbow]

yinlin and encore stuck on jinzhou keeper

[oak copper]

Jinzhou keeper dedicating half its passive to HP% for some reason

The 4*s are just so bad its not funny

[blissful tulip]

It does feel like horizontal investment won't be as favoured as a mix of both horizontal and vertical

C0 characters are heavily encouraged to get their signatures

[cobalt apex]

if they decide to make the content harder very quickly

horizontal investment is screwed

[blissful tulip]

While also having a main dps for 5 elements depending on ToA shilling/resistances

[oak copper]

You may not need every Sig but you pretty surely want a good universal 5* for every weapon class

[blissful tulip]

As ToA resistances are much higher in comparison to the overworld

[cobalt apex]

5* standard weapons may be able to push u over

so sigs arent as necessary as 5* carries

[opaque violet]

Why did they change the cr passive 💀

[dense elbow]

just praying to get stringmaster whenever tf yinlin reruns lmao

[dense elbow]

why not

more CR

+4%!

[cobalt apex]

bigger number!

well more consistent big numbers i should say

[oak copper]

I wonder if they will make the next Rectifier Sig stupid busted for their user given how universal Stringmaster is

[dense elbow]

they kinda have to lmao

surprised they didnt make it skill dmg

[outer jetty]

Def scaling rectifier sig

[cobalt apex]

in the near future s0r1 will be the norm

[dense elbow]

mhm

[forest dome]

idk how generous pull per patch will be in the future but prob

[opaque violet]

Bring back the cr passive for changli sword bruh

[dense elbow]

just pulls kinda scarce

[cobalt apex]

hp scaling broadsword

[blissful tulip]

1.1 will give around 92 pulls

[dense elbow]

yeah like

on that income c0r1 aint rly enough

you skipping chars if you want c0r1

[forest dome]

[cobalt apex]

yea

with that income its like skipping 2 chars for 1 c0r1

[blissful tulip]

Could all depend on how difficult ToA gets

But the fact that they're already adding weekly bosses in 1.1

[forest dome]

prob fine once we gettin higher ul

[outer jetty]

Did half resin cost added in 1.0 genshin?

Weekly

[dense elbow]

it was added alongside childe right?

coz they made it 3 a week to coincide with the 3rd weekly boss

[forest dome]

when they letting us to do 1 boss 3 times a week

[outer jetty]

Actually wuwa might just add 1 more possible clear weekly until a limit

[cobalt apex]

gotta wait 2 weeks for a max talent theres no shortcut

[outer jetty]

2 weeks max talent is honestly fine

[blissful tulip]

We will likely get 3-4 weekly boss materials per run

Like in HSR

And a flat 5 boss materials in UL70

[cobalt apex]

and it will still cost 60

[forest dome]

if they give more would be nicege

given 60 resin on every single thing

[blissful tulip]

That is fine

Genshin's 40 resin gives you 2-3, and in the best case scenario over the 200 resin cap, you'll get 15

Worst case 10

[outer jetty]

60 is fine when other thing cost as much

[blissful tulip]

Waves' 240 resin + the 5 flat boss materials gets you 20

Which is enough for level 90

[cobalt apex]

i dont feel the same thing about tacet field tho

for bosses the amount it gives / the amount we gain is good

[outer jetty]

Tacet field is different league in waste

[forest dome]

nah i'd waste

[opal venture]

If all Jinhsi basics dmg change to E dmg after Incarnation, Taoqi should still be good for her right ?

[tawdry sapphire]

No Changli buff sadge

[storm ledge]

I'm takin sig buff

[cobalt apex]

are you getting sig now?

[storm ledge]

yeah probably

48.6% cdmg & 12% cr + 56% skill dmg

and iirc it's cheaper cuz there's no 50/50?

[blissful tulip]

No 75/25 either

Full 100% at 80 pity

[cobalt apex]

i just hope i wont lose 50/50 on changli

[storm ledge]

Nice
Also it's just a lot more dmg than c1

[ebon jasper]

bruh her forte fucking does 66% more dmg
from 1073.6 to 1781.6 multiplier
what the fuck bro

where changli

buff

[cobalt apex]

next week

[storm ledge]

I have like 145 pulls rn (+ 11 weapon pulls), with around 50% exploration
And apparently 1.1 is like another 100 pulls
So I'm set for at least c0r1

[ebon jasper]

no change on jinhsi weap
jiyan sig stays

[dense elbow]

more than that its 50 stacks

[cobalt apex]

there are changes on jinhsi sigs

[ebon jasper]

who tf need damage reduction

changli

[cobalt apex]

well according to the thingy its 91 pulls for f2p

if u do everything

[ebon jasper]

64 pity char 40 pity weap
40 pull worth of asterite and a dream!!

[cobalt apex]

im missing 2 regions rn

so prob close to 14k with 100%

[ebon jasper]

that 64 pity on char is me trying to get danjin

s9 chixia instead

40 pity trying to get cadenza

[cobalt apex]

by the time changli is out i'll prob have like 140 pulls

which isnt that great tbf

[ebon jasper]

that 64 pity also have a chance to get s2 changli

[blissful tulip]

May I have the extra copies

[ebon jasper]

swap for danjin

[blissful tulip]

Mine is only S3

[ebon jasper]

i have 0

[blissful tulip]

Fair deal, she's quite difficult to play on mobile for me

[cobalt apex]

sequences trade business

[storm ledge]

I'm probably gonna buy another "welkin" again

[forest dome]

casually doubling the mv

🔥

[cobalt apex]

i dont know how long ill stick with the game so ill be playing with this scarce astrite resource

will prob have just enough to guarantee c0r1 by the end of 1.1

[ebon jasper]

tldr:

echo stuff:
tuner conversion 5:1
give echo exp when getting new echoes(?)
3-4 cost echoes only on dailies instead of 1-4 cost
databank lvl 21 100% chance gold
new echoes in new region
tacet field no more stupid animation
reduce money cost on upgrading echoes

misc:
cruisefly exploration adjustments for smoother and more tolerant gaming
illusive realm update, 1000 asterites on completion
new region, 800 asterites
increase number of buyable rolls with corals from 6 to 7

events:
7 day login stuff
commission event
battle event
double mat event
echo event

exploration:
added layered map for new region
treasure detector range increase

extra misc:
resonator info stuff
quest archive
lowered level req for some main quests
more variety of daily tasks
combat style tags for characters
chat moved to be half screen
controller stuff 

+1 pull

make it monthly!! devs listeneded!!

[blissful tulip]

Commission event? What does this mean?

Similar to what we've had this patch?

If so then the event quality definitely seems lackluster

[outer jetty]

why viewpoint make up 3% of exploration

[blissful tulip]

It counts as a separate bar in your exploration tab

[rotund drum]

+1 actually adds up since there are 3 different types

as opposed to genshit where you get all of 5 per month and half of them are crappy standard rolls

[blissful tulip]

Also, no tacet field reward changes? Little unfortunate

[rotund drum]

they're already buffing tuner conversions

people like to whine about tacet field droprate but they likely mathed that out from the start

i dont think they're gonna change it

iirc tacet field droprate is overall better at ar40 already than genshit is at ar60

[barren drift]

what if

food delivery

[rotund drum]

you'll get a correct mainstat piece with 3+ good subs + be able to max it in fewer total runs than i n genshit

[barren drift]

like genshihn

💀

[blissful tulip]

It may be, but we use more resources by default due to the way substats are handled in Waves, even if you perform the +10/+15 trick, the costs do add up

[rotund drum]

leveling echoes mostly just feels slow because we get the mainstat pieces for free

so we always have things to upgrade

[blissful tulip]

Peak event quality, as much as people dislike the minigames in Genshin it eases the monotony of daily commissions

[rotund drum]

in genshit you spend like a week farming for the mainstat piece with decent subs so you have a ton of fodder banked by then

[blissful tulip]

Hopefully Waves' events aren't mostly poor

[rotund drum]

i wonder if any of the casuals going "plz let us use trash echoes for fodder" realize it's going to be like farming fodder artifacts from elites in genshit

[blissful tulip]

That is what I mentioned, yeah

[rotund drum]

i.e. incredibly bad rates

then they'll all bitch because mainstat drop rate will become shit since you arent recycling the bad drops

"i farmed for hours and got one pyro dmg piece on pyro set and fed all my other eches to it to level it to +1 and now i have no more pyro dmg pieces"

[cobalt apex]

recycling would be as good as u said if they arent random

[rotund drum]

its still free stuff

whenever i want to farm echoes i also kill all the trash mobs along the way and get a few dozen trash echoes

which usually turn into a couple of extra on-set pieces

[cobalt apex]

but its barely anything compare to what ur farming for

like sure u can get 100 on set pieces and recyling prob give u like 5 more

[rotund drum]

that estimate sounds highly sus

i never really paid attention to what the merge ratio was for 1-cost vs 3-cost result

but it feels kinda like its just equal chance to get anything in the pool

[cobalt apex]

there are 41 different possible merge

[rotund drum]

so its probably around 2:1 ratio for 1-cost vs 3-cost

[cobalt apex]

so at most like 3/41 for ur desired on set

and then u have to deal with 1/10 mainstat

[rotund drum]

3-cost has 10 possible mainstats iirc and usually 2-3 diferent sets they can roll into

[cobalt apex]

so thats 3/410 for a correct mainstat on set echo of ur desired

[rotund drum]

assuming you're gunning for dmg + set matching that's 2/30 possible rolls or 1/15 chance

if you also want ER your odds become a lot better

so if its 1/3 chance to get a 3-cost and 1/15 chance to get a good mainstat you're looking at one every 45 or so worse case

which is far from bad in terms of getting free stuff while you farm other stuff

a lot of elites always come with adds

and theres some zones that just have tons of groups of 4-5 mobs together

[cobalt apex]

yes but theres no way u can even compare that with xp

when u can just farm the desired mob infinitely

[rotund drum]

i kinda wish the fatui and treasure hoarders dropped echoes since fighting them feels like a huge waste of time atm

[cobalt apex]

as long as u have worlds

[rotund drum]

but the zones filled with hilichurls or slimes are usually good

you can farm xp fodder in genshit infinitely too but no one in their right mind does that

the rates are just too shit

[cobalt apex]

because it doesnt give u anything?

what the hell ru going to do with 4*s

[rotund drum]

feed them

[cobalt apex]

artifact routes are more than enough

[rotund drum]

what are you gonna do with fodder echoes in wuwa

[cobalt apex]

no need for elite routes

thats when the tuners problem come into place

[oak copper]

If I look at my Echoes rn, they surely look better than my Genshin artifacts did after 2 1/2 weeks of playing. Think there is jsut something about Echoes that feels bad because you spend more time on them if you grind them, rather than progression being actually too slow

[rotund drum]

yeah so you'll be doing tacet fields anyway

so you're back to where you started

[cobalt apex]

yea

since making artifacts gated by 2 different things is already screwed

since u'll always be missing one of the two

[rotund drum]

in wuwa you get gated by xp and tuners

in genshit you get gated by xp and having the artifact drop in the first place

at least the tuners are guaranteed

[cobalt apex]

u "can" grind the game but it doesnt make u progress further

thats what i feel bad about

for genshin u "cant" even grind the game

[rotund drum]

if your echoes are already busted enough that you cant progress them anymore then idk

maybe build a new char or prefarm jinhsi

[blissful tulip]

I feel that the system is better but it feels worse, which creates an odd dilemma

I really like the way substats are handled, and getting artifacts and builds overall feels much easier in comparison to GI

[oak copper]

it just makes it so that after you did your tacet fields that you immediately have something to roll on. You still going to get fairly good gear faster than in genshin on average but it doesn't feel very good

[rotund drum]

the echo grind will probably become more of a problem once people start losing the motivation to clear maps daily

[oak copper]

its weird, yeah

[rotund drum]

for now its ok but i dont even bother to burn resin in genshit anymore

much less go around killing overworld mobs

[oak copper]

In 2-3 months more invested players will probably just be in a state of gambling for higher rolls, rather than actually missing double crit on their pieces

[blissful tulip]

I kill overworld mobs naturally when exploring, it's thankfully more than enough for talents for a majority of the characters I pull for

[cobalt apex]

also another thing is rolls being so varied

it will just happen very soon

[oak copper]

roll range is higher to make up for not needing to have the right stats and then roll them up multiple times on top

[blissful tulip]

I doubt it'll be really that, I feel that post-honeymoon players' patience will increase as they understand the system more

If there are going to be complaints about the grind

It'll mainly be the 4 costs in the future

[cobalt apex]

in a few months 4/5 good subs on an echo will prob be the norm

might even be 5/5

[oak copper]

I think Echo complaints will disappear over time at large and people will start complaining about having nothing to do, since they realize that grinding the map for a maybe 2% higher CR roll isn't worth their time

and Tacet Fields will largely give you the base pieces you need

[cobalt apex]

it hit the same content walls as genshin

[oak copper]

yup

[cobalt apex]

but way sooner due to how it works

the access to endgame is too early

[blissful tulip]

That is part of the reason why my opinion on the game is iffy

It feels the same as Genshin regarding endgame

[oak copper]

Thats definitely a weird one, they just drop you off at the entry to endgame at UL30

[blissful tulip]

At least right now

[oak copper]

and then massively ramp the exp reqs

[blissful tulip]

Maybe they'll add more modes in the future

[oak copper]

but Ul goes up to what, 70 or 80?

[blissful tulip]

Or do the HSR thing and add more variety of endgame rather than more of it

[blissful tulip]

80, UL70 is max drops

[cobalt apex]

80 is more than half a year away

and we're already this far into the game

[oak copper]

ToA can be fully cleared before UL50 or at the very least before UL60 but rewards scale to 70, weird choice given how long these steps take

[cobalt apex]

has someone send this?

[blissful tulip]

ToA is likely easier now due to 1.0, considering that 1.1's ToA already has Weekly bosses, its difficulty will increase considerably

[oak copper]

That depends a lot more on the HP pools than the Bosses themselves

[blissful tulip]

And weekly bosses generally have higher hp , but we won't know for sure as Hakushin does not have the correct HP values iirc

[oak copper]

Scars moveset is whatever

yeah, gotta see how the HP values change

because thats the sole limiting factor in ToA atm

[cobalt apex]

they want to push UL level even more

giving us more xp

[night mantle]

lets go

[cobalt apex]

weird choice

[oak copper]

They gotta do that, people need something to look forward to

[barren drift]

rly?

[lament shuttle]

faster ul50 it is ig

[night mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/mrpokke-gif-5189420829856872386

[barren drift]

i just feel like its for helping newbies

[cobalt apex]

https://wutheringwaves.kurogames.com/en/main/news/detail/893

[oak copper]

ToA clear at UL50, UL60 in 1 month or two, not a super exciting prospect

[cobalt apex]

yea

[blissful tulip]

Did they officially release a statement? Where'd you get this

[cobalt apex]

.

22m ago

[blissful tulip]

Oh, neat

[cobalt apex]

at this point we might even reach UL 60 in a month

if they keep pushing out more xp

[oak copper]

That was the day I hit UL40 and now I'm just waiting for resources to build a third Team. So if the DPS checks were to be the same in 1.1 with another limited unit in the mix I may be able to get a full clear before I even hit UL50

So either they will increase HP pools a good amount pretty soon or more invested players will have no progression to look forward to halfway through the progression curve

[cobalt apex]

this is really problematic

[night mantle]

that's not a bad thing though

I mean its an endgame content

[cobalt apex]

yes when we're just merely 2 months in

and most players will have beaten the game by the time we get UL 60

[oak copper]

most is gonna be an overstatement because usually stuff like ToA, similarly to Genshin Abyss, is not actively being played by the majority

but the people that really do care about this kind of content should rather easily be able to clear it before UL60 with current DPS reqs

[cobalt apex]

most non-casual players* i guess

it will be another abyss situation

where the hp pool increase as powercreep increase

but that will quickly invalidate the older units for tower since the combat system has less depths compare to genshin and more straightforwards

[oak copper]

Dont think that will be a worry because current DPS reqs are really really low and there is so much power on the table still regardless of better units releasing

[night mantle]

as per the design, yeah it will happen. The abyss/tower is not a good end game content. The idea of fighting existing enemies with 5-10x hp with a time gate of 2mins is bad.

Its just a show of fire power

[oak copper]

Its not necessarily a bad idea, its just that its a Gacha and Mobile game, so they just can't feasibly make tight DPS checks

[cobalt apex]

thats fair as of our current tower check

[oak copper]

and neither can they make overly difficult Bosses

and even if they made fairly difficult Bosses, as long as they don't also have high HP you will be able to kill them quickly enough so that their difficulty isn't gonna end up very high in practice

Also why Hologram 6 is whatever after UL50. If you can kill them in a minute you have to deal with the janky attacks and hitboxes for a lot less time

[cobalt apex]

Raikh if u were to design an endgame mode for these games what would u make?

[night mantle]

I read a good idea for endgame content on reddit.

The idea was that every week, there will be 1 hologram boss which will get additional 10-15 levels/stages. In every lvl the hologram boss will have its unique atk style and the difficulty will increase as well.

I think this is really good, scales to really high difficulty and is a fresh idea

[oak copper]

I'd probably try some infinite scaling mode that allows players to test their roster up to their respective limit.

And I'd do something like the Vagabond Events in Genshin more often or permanently, which gives players ways to have modular difficulty to test themselves.

Everything else would require more fundamental changes in the approach to the game because you can buy absurd amounts of power so there is never an even playing field. And if you force players to be a certain power level for a challenge you just invalidate their own progression efforts

[cobalt apex]

[oak copper]

you can leave the important currency rewards at a similar level to now, add some prestige rewards to a higher difficulty and from there on its just about you wanting to test your limits because you like playing the game

[lilac hare]

I’m ul 43 and I have 31 crystal solvents, do I just spend them all now?

On tacet fields

[cobalt apex]

it just depends on u tbh

it doesnt really matter when u use the solvents

since the gain from UL 40-50 is barely anything anyways

[lilac hare]

Yeah, I was saving some for the double tacet field event, but we have 3 attempts per day

So just use the normal resin there

[lilac hare]

Yeah

Time to spend them all then

Will jump from 43 to 45

[cobalt apex]

prob wont get u that much unless ur already close to 44

[lilac hare]

Oh yeah I’ve calculated it, with the 2K exp from dailies, I will have enough for ul 45

I’m a bit more than halfway 43 atm

[rotund drum]

looks like tacet field droprate increase was fake news after all

shill reddit mods in shambles

[kind turtle]

where?

[cobalt apex]

https://wutheringwaves.kurogames.com/en/main/news/detail/893 if u havent seen

[dense elbow]

changli sig had the crit rate removed in CN

😔

replaced with 12% ATK

[cobalt apex]

wait

[cobalt apex]

aint no way we got a buff and a nerf in the same update

[dense elbow]

i mean jinhsi s3 got nerfed lmao

[oak copper]

So its maybe 5% better than before, if even

[dense elbow]

ppl still have it at 15% better than emerald

id need to check myself

[oak copper]

That sounds like its where it should be based on precedent

[kind turtle]

ok i made a summary of the press release but its huge 😭

[cobalt apex]

dont worry

[kind turtle]

cancelled 😔

[blissful tulip]

That's not as bad

[limber imp]

So how goods changli

[oak copper]

walls of text are great, automod aswell

[cobalt apex]

2 messages i guess

[kind turtle]

Wuthering Waves Developer's Message Vol. 3: Version 1.1 Preview

• I. New Tuner Synthesis Feature
  Lower Grade tuners can be synthesized into Higher Grade tuners
  Current rate of 5>1

• 2. Increased Union EXP Reward for Unlocking New Echo Entries
  Union XP will be given for finding new echoes (this will be given retroactively)

• 3. Higher COST Range for Echoes Rewarded for Activity Points
  Only 3 or 4 COST echoes can be obtained from daily activities

• 4. Data Bank Level Cap Raised
  Data Bank lv.21 will be introduced, guaranteeing 5* drops from all echoes

• 5. Clang Bang
  Clang Bang

• 6. Other Optimizations
  Tacet Field Cutscene has been removed
  Lowered Shell Credit cost for Echo leveling
  Cruisewing Challenges have been made simpler

** ✦Events and Other Rewards✦**

• 1 . New [Depths of Illusive Realm] Content: Dreams Ablaze in Darkness with Raised Event Rewards
  A new Illusive Realm event with new mechanics, and the total reward will be increased to 1000 Astrites

• 2. Increased Convene Item Version Exchange Limit in the Item Exchange: Oscillated Coral Store
  From version 1.1 onwards, the Stardust store will sell 7 Radiant Tided, Forging Tides and Lustrous Tides each patch

• 3. Preview of Other Special Events
  In 1.1, the following events will appear and more:

  • 7-day login event [Gifts of Celestial Light]
  • Featured commission event [Lollo Campaign], the featured combat event [Tactical Simulacra]
  • Leveling material double drop event [Aftersound Abundance]
  • Echo double drop event [Chord Cleansing]

** ✦Map Exploration System✦✦**

• 1. New Mt. Firmament Layered Map
  The new 1.1 region Mt. Firmament will include a layered map for ease of exploration.
  Due to the volume of work, the Layered Map for the rest of Jinzhou will be released later

• 2. New Area Quest Progress
  You will be able to track current Exploration Quests in the current region via the map

• 3. Expanded Detection Range for Lootmapper
  The range of the Lootmapper will be increased starting from the 1.1 update

** ✦Quest and Gallery System✦**

• 1. New Resonator Gallery Feature
  After the Version 1.1 update, you can check all the Resonators you have unlocked and their unlocked time in Gallery - Crossing Stars.

• 2. New Story Dialogue Gallery Feature
  After the Version 1.1 update, you can check all dialogues of completed Main Quests and Companion Stories in Gallery - Main Story.

• 3. Level Requirements Lowered for Some Main Quests
  Main Quest Chapter 1 Act 4: Clashing Blades will be lowered from Union Lv. 14 to Union Lv. 11
  Main Quests Chapter 1 Act 5 and Act 6 will become available once the preceding chapter quests are completed.

• 4. More Number and Types of Guidebook: Activity Points Quests
  New Daily Activity Point tasks will be able to make it easier to complete your daily tasks

** ✦Other Experience Optimizations✦**

• 1. New Combat Style Tags
  Tags will be added onto characters to show what role they are supposed to perform in combat

• 2. New Chat System Style
  The chatbox will be displayed at a half-screen height after the Version 1.1 update

• 3. Controller Mode Interaction Optimizations
  Camera controls can now be horizontally and vertically inverted
  Changed the controller mode shortcut key: Open Chat is now Open Map.
  Playstation controllers can be remapped

[cobalt apex]

wait this is actually a lot

[kind turtle]

😭

[rotund drum]

do we still get babby tuners from tacet field

i forget

[blissful tulip]

Idts

We only got 5* tuners

[rotund drum]

just to get rid of the crap we get from chests then i guess

i figured they would do it eventually so i saved them at least

hopefully we dont end up with like 2 tuners left

[oak copper]

They really didnt think the Tuners through

[rotund drum]

i think we probably will if you ever refunded a 4* echo for the xp

[dense elbow]

no clue what they were expecting with those lmfao

wish it was 1 gold for 3 purple but

5 is alright

[oak copper]

would've maybe made sense if we had to deal with 4* Echoes till UL50, but even then, just make a single currency and let 3* s and 4*s be cheaper to tune

[dense elbow]

agreed

[cobalt apex]

[dense elbow]

275 purples

91.8 golds there

wait no

55.12 golds

[cobalt apex]

barely anything from 100% map

[dense elbow]

wow 1 echo

[oak copper]

why do you have only 275 purples?

[dense elbow]

nono

5 blues = 1 purple

5 purples = 1 gold

[cobalt apex]

10 gold = 1 tune

so thats 1 echo

[dense elbow]

literally

[vapid river]

wait fr?

[dense elbow]

[oak copper]

but those are 1378 purple ones, not blue ones

[dense elbow]

are those purple?

im fucking colour blind

[cobalt apex]

well this is blue

[oak copper]

ah, yeah, they are purple

[dense elbow]

ok that looks a lot lighter

mb

275 tuners then

[vapid river]

those are very clearly purple

wtf

[clear stump]

So no buff on tacet field then

[dense elbow]

the blue ones look fucking white to me

[oak copper]

so 300 tuners ballpark fro dumping all our blue and purple ones I guess

[vapid river]

leifa color blind confirmed

[cobalt apex]

so i get 317 tuners

[blissful tulip]

That's alright, better than nothing

[cobalt apex]

and this is all i have left

[vapid river]

[cobalt apex]

now ur going to have a problem with xp instead of tuners

[vapid river]

that's okay

[cobalt apex]

[vapid river]

i can live with that

[oak copper]

not complaining, neat extra

[clear stump]

This is a joke

[vapid river]

357 extra gold tuners

gladly take them

post ul30 just remove the bottom tier tuners from rewards period

[clear stump]

Also it's proven to never trust en translation

[dense elbow]

real

[vapid river]

just give extra gold tuners

like

shouldn't that have been the way it was originally?

[clear stump]

So much for tacet field buff

[vapid river]

who tf using blue tuners anyway?

😭

[dense elbow]

i mean they did say it was a translation error

[clear stump]

They didn't

[rotund drum]

reddit mods were super butthurt when people pointed that out

[clear stump]

People just know it because all other translation says different thing

[rotund drum]

they were deleting all the threads

[clear stump]

Yep

Fuck reddit mods

[dense elbow]

yeah the reddit mods tried to pass it off like they werent wrong

[clear stump]

Stupid losers

[kind turtle]

😭

[dense elbow]

but CN said other shit

[kind turtle]

bruh

[clear stump]

There are also people here that gaslight it

Shame on you

[dense elbow]

"cant afford $1?" discord mods back at it again

[vapid river]

so it was reddit mods getting it wrong or kuro tl team?

[dense elbow]

reddit mods

[vapid river]

[dense elbow]

well both

[rotund drum]

I CANT READ CHINESE BUT I WOULD BE EXTREMELY UPSET IF THIS THREAD IS TRUE SO IM GOING TO DELETE IT

[clear stump]

Both

[dense elbow]

EN translation was wrong vs CN

and the reddit mods kept deleting posts about it

saying the EN was correct

[clear stump]

Nevwr me trust any en translation from kuro

[vapid river]

^

[rotund drum]

it was more that the english TL was vague and people who read chinese were clarifying it

[clear stump]

Better off asking cn bros

[vapid river]

140k points

[dense elbow]

same for genshin betas just on a whole new level

[rotund drum]

and reddit was super butthurt about it because they didnt want to believe it

[cobalt apex]

[vapid river]

when they get numbers wrong

it's crazy

how you gonna fuck up 90k with 140k

[dense elbow]

why do you pick 90k and 140k anyways

and not 100k and 150k

clean numbers

[vapid river]

maybe it was actually coded wrong

[dense elbow]

doubt it

[vapid river]

and it was supposed to be 100k

[dense elbow]

CN was displayed 90k

[vapid river]

[dense elbow]

just like with genshin betas ig

[vapid river]

yeah 90k is kinda weird

[dense elbow]

EN gets text late

so they translated it and didnt get the memo

[vapid river]

oh no

[oak copper]

maybe they toned it down at some point and EN didnt get the memo

[vapid river]

we got the text at the same time leifa

it was just wrong

[dense elbow]

ik that

but i mean they sent out the game with the current translation

before checking in

[vapid river]

i'll pr if they pay me

[rotund drum]

i bet if i make a thread pointing out that the tacet fields buff was confirmed to be fake news the mods will still delete it

[dense elbow]

like genshin betas we always check CN for most changes coz EN text is 1 week behind

real

[rotund drum]

THE FACT THAT WE PUSHED FAKE NEWS FOR WEEKS AND BANNED EVERYONE WHO TRIED TO CORRECT US IS IRRELEVANT NOW LET IT GO

[clear stump]

Fuck them losers

[vapid river]

the ego of man is a crazy thing

[clear stump]

Imagine power tripping while being wrong

Like it's not hard to check on other languages official source to confirm it

[vapid river]

nah, i'm okay with people who do this

only

if they can admit they were wrong

[clear stump]

They're reddit mods

[vapid river]

like go for it

power trip

[teal sparrow]

I have enough ego to say that Kaguya sucks

[vapid river]

idgaf

[clear stump]

They won't admit it

[teal sparrow]

[cobalt apex]

was reddit that bad

[clear stump]

Fucking losers

[vapid river]

she does suck

[cobalt apex]

i never went there

[vapid river]

stupid bitch

[teal sparrow]

It was

[vapid river]

just tell kaichou you like him already

fs

save us 150 chapters

[clear stump]

It's fucking bad you have dog simps defending something that is clearly wrong

Gaslighting people left and right

And banning as well

Imagine banning people for misinformation when the thing you're defending on is misinformation.

Clowns

[oak copper]

sounds like they are aspiring politicians

[kind turtle]

encore players do you have issues with her n5 just not happening?

spamming m1 it just resets combo and doesnt summon big wooly

[dense elbow]

i mean i dont do her non ult combo

in ult getting the wooly is easy to the point u can dash cancel her n4 early and it still comes out

[kind turtle]

yeah her ult one is easy

but her reg n5 just sometimes doesnt happen

it still has the 1f cancel, but sometimes it wont even spawn when spam clicking

[rotund drum]

i think you're supposed to time it

thats why the game describes it as a timing press instead of just a mash

[lament shuttle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9NU-U9DwRI

his calchero is like 3x my dmg damn

[clear stump]

Lol his DM damage drop off from 6.9k per tick to 4.8k when he switch cal out for the third DM

[wheat moon]

this may sound stupid but can you farm the same weekly boss to farm their echo or no do you have to wait weekly

[kind turtle]

you can farm as many times as you want

[wheat moon]

ah, pog

thank you

[rotund drum]

you can farm any boss by just killing them and not claiming the reward btw

thats why no one complains about 4-cost echoes really

its like 60% average droprate and all you need to do is afk for a few minutes between fights

[ebon jasper]

DEVS LISTENENED!

[vapid river]

devs listened

[rotund drum]

firefest soon

need to finish prefarming jinhsi echoes today

[sterile swallow]

I have a bunch of on-set spectro dmg echoes. But don't want to level them until 1.1

Save credits

[blissful tulip]

Same here, but I'm currently investing in the others to really care about Sanhua, Spectro Rover or Jianxin dps

[sterile swallow]

Everything that is locked is spectro dmg

[blissful tulip]

God it's so weird to see the UI not change much between PC and Mobile

[sterile swallow]

I'm going to assume Jinshi's bis active echo will be the new boss in 1.1

so not going to bother farming Aix

[vapid river]

that's what wuwa.gg thinks too

[neat robin]

I dont think I’ll be upset if I cant get jinhsi tbh
I can barely even build my current 3 teams properly

[sterile swallow]

I have 2 teams setup already. Will have 3 after Jinhsi comes out

Jiyan/Mortefi/Sustain or flex
Calcharo/Sanhua/Sustain or flex
Jinhsi/Verina/Yuanwu (Not pulling Yinlin)

[blissful tulip]

I'd like Jinshi to be safe for 2 years regarding any sort of powercreep

[sterile swallow]

Unison is pretty cool and wouldn't get powercreeped anytime soon

If anything, she is more likely to get buffed in a form of a character that has coordinated attacks+buffs skill dmg

She doesn't have a set team/support atm. Mortefi was made for Jiyan thanks to his HA deepen+triggering more shots during his liberation on HAs, which is all Jiyan does

[fickle kernel]

wtf is echoes are insane

[edgy cobalt]

double crit or bust basically

[sterile swallow]

Yinlin buffs electro dmg bonus/liberation dmg, perfect for Calcharo. But she's also just a great subdps in general too

[blissful tulip]

Calcharo's ult is not full liberation dmg afaik, it's basics + heavies

[sterile swallow]

Jinhsi lacks that kind of character to support her . Has to be someone with a different element, has constant coordinated attacks even off-field, and buffs skill damage

[fickle kernel]

we hae a lot of off field units though

just no skill buff

[sterile swallow]

We need a 5* Taoqi who does coordinated attacks

[fickle kernel]

surely they add skill buffer in 1.2 since both of the 1.1 girlies like skill dmg

surely they dont add two more main dps

named scar and bandagegirl

also idk if anyone plays league but

when i disable vanguard wuwa stops stuttering

in case anyone else having problems

[knotty fiber]

should I be happy or sad about this @cobalt apex

[rotund drum]

good yuanwu piece

[sterile swallow]

It's a keeper. Those are the 2nd highest rolls for crit substats. Can be good for anyone who uses BA a lot too

[neat robin]

Why is it alwaysss defence

[rotund drum]

save for yuanwu alter

[neat robin]

I have uhh
65/150 crit on encore. No cdmg rider yet

+10 on the 4 pieces though hopefully I get cdmg rolls

[lament shuttle]

So is Changli's weapon 2nd stat crit or atk%

[cobalt apex]

crit dmg

12% atk in passive

it was 12 cr in passive we got robbed

[lament shuttle]

the korean and japanese and english all still say crit rate

just cn says atk

[cobalt apex]

well but only cn is the most trustworthy

unless they somehow got it wrong in cn

which is dont think is the case

[lament shuttle]

in b4 they dont fix it and its the refund fiasco all over

[cobalt apex]

translation moment

[dense elbow]

wasnt 12% crit rate they just forgot to update the text but the numbers are pulled from a database

so when they changed it from 8% CR to 12% ATK, the EN text didnt get updated

and it just autopulled the number

all currently known info should be in pins

and if anything else gets out ill update

[cobalt apex]

ah so the other languages just autopulled the numbers without changing any texts

[cobalt apex]

i mean its a double crit high rolls

[knotty fiber]

Still 0% ER on Yinlin

[uneven flame]

Coordinated Damage means stuff like Yinlin's Punishment Mark right? Crap I might actually need to pull Yinlin if that is the case cause the only other Coordinated Damage I can think of is Morti and he doesn't work well.

[sterile swallow]

Yes, Verina/Morti/Yuanwu also have coordinated attacks too

Yinlin is the premium option

[uneven flame]

Wait why does Yinlin's kit not mention coordinated attack but the other 3 do? Surely Punishment mark works despite not saying its a coordinated attack...

[night mantle]

ohh yeah it does not mention that

other 3 have clear mention of it

[uneven flame]

This could be a sneaky way to nerf their synergy.

[night mantle]

maybe

[rotund drum]

that jinhsi buff is pretty memes

too bad yuanwu and yinlin are the same element

and midtefi needs ult

i wonder if the +2 would also work with verina though

dps yinlin

[lilac hare]

I finally got the weapon, pity 71

[outer jetty]

Same as my 72 pity. Worth it because of how universal it can be.

[olive osprey]

Premium option is S6 Jinhsi + Taoqi + Verina

[olive osprey]

O shit, do we have any ways to confirm if it's a coordinated atk or not right now?

[uneven flame]

Not sure but this is pretty important maybe a beta tester or private server owner can test it.

[floral bone]

When a target carrying the Mark of Punishment is damaged, Thunder of Judgment will be dropped, and a coordinated attack will be carried out on all targets carrying the Mark of Punishment, causing conductive damage, which can be triggered up to once per second.

cn description

[uneven flame]

I got it in 69 pulls so I guess I'm winning

[uneven flame]

Ah EN strikes again

[floral bone]

yup

[uneven flame]

I should of checked the CN version

[floral bone]

always do for anything tc related

[cobalt apex]

EN translation are

[floral bone]

msot of the time machine translating cn is more accurate than EN

[cobalt apex]

they even managed to fucked up numbers somehow

[outer jetty]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/600999596625494038/1250215032000610324/Screenshot_20240611-192026_Wuthering_Waves.jpg?ex=66735b7b&is=667209fb&hm=ce3e03bccebcba78c5ae6013770f051005edfd61e9fec22fda0ed4d429736c5c&

Relevant

[olive osprey]

I checked enore.moe CN texts, in 1.1 we will have those new character tags right? Yinlin has a coordinated attacker tag

Just like Mortefi

[uneven flame]

Damn I guess I have to pull Yinlin now

[cobalt apex]

yinlin propaganda

[olive osprey]

Verina and Yuanwu has these tags too

[olive osprey]

Id say wait tbh, even CN texts could be wrong

Wait 1-2 days before Yinlin banner ends to see calcs

[uneven flame]

Well considering there is a tag AND the description in Yinlin's CN text already had it before all this I'm sure it will work. I don't see a world atm where Yinlin is not on her bis S0 team with the options we have.

[keen jackal]

just reached ul 45 which weap do i pick

its either broadsword or sword i think

for jiyan or hrover

[wheat moon]

sword is easily the best

but it depends on who you want to be more stronger

[keen jackal]

mm ill just go for sword

because i love playing hrover with yinlin

i play yinlin a lot more than jiyan so id rather her team be stronger

[small bronze]

do we know which banner comes first now? i repeat my question i want changli second phase

[night mantle]

imagine both banners come at the same time

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blow-galaxy-explode-boom-fireworks-gif-5139389

[cobalt apex]

well for now its jinhsi first changli 2nd

as far as we know

[small bronze]

[sterile swallow]

Glad Jinhsi is first. Another main dps for us to use

[small bronze]

if she is then im glad too cause more time to farm for changli

but then there is gonna be 1.2 and i might say it all over again cause i will wanna save

gacha experience

and as far as i will go is welkin and sometimes bp i aint swiping that shit

[blissful tulip]

Gambling event

[cobalt apex]

gambling

[sterile swallow]

Is that event in 1.1?

Just force it to land on the astrites

[cobalt apex]

its going to be credits

[blissful tulip]

5 events total, not including the 2x rewards
Exploration event similar to the 1.0 one (I believe)
Photo event similar to the one taken in Sumeru
SU update, new gimmicks
Combat event
Gambling event

[analog cliff]

On pride month?

[tawdry sapphire]

Wooo gamba

[cobalt apex]

Wuthering Waves Version Preview | Version 1.1 "Thaw of Eons" Coming June 28
https://wutheringwaves.kurogames.com/en/main/news/detail/897

[blissful tulip]

She should be doing a lot more

Skill% really makes a difference , at least all these pieces are better suited for Changli and Encore

[barren drift]

wait

geshu lin playable..?

NO I WANT CAMELLYA

but phrolova is lit tho

[lilac hare]

Who are these people