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knotty fiber
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idk what to do to stop that bitch from jumping further from the other 2

neat robin
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Literally have to grab both gunners and run them into shielder with jiyan ult

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I did first rot no outros, kills the gunners
2nd rot outros & kill the shielder
I got mephis down to about half hp with 3:30 remaining one try then got nuked by some 8k hit he did

knotty fiber
neat robin
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Also you lose morts outro dmg if you’re mort>jiyan>swapping off jiyan mid-gorilla

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I’m trying to get used to verina> jiyan echo> mort ult outro> jiyan skill(for sig) ult

knotty fiber
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yeah my rotation ends a bit late and I needed more time

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slightly more

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cuz I couldn't start the new rotation

oak copper
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lowrolls but I won't complain

knotty fiber
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Copium I needed that

neat robin
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Damn

sterile swallow
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Give that over here pls

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I already consider any ele dmg bonus with both crits+ER substats a big win

blissful tulip
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Any ele dmg bonus with crit rate + ability% is a win for me

fickle kernel
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why are early constellations so underwhelming

knotty fiber
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Copium Genshin syndrome

fickle kernel
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why cant they just copy genshin and make c1/c2 good!

neat robin
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Except verina s2

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Does verinas 2nd passive cd reset across tower attempts

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I havent bothered to ascend her to unlock it yet

fickle kernel
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probably not

knotty fiber
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@edgy cobalt

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Heron

hollow gorge
knotty fiber
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yes

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I used HRover instead of Mortefi

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cuz it was faster to deal with the crowd

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and I cleared first attempt

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holy shit

edgy cobalt
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mortefi is just a bricked unit after all

hollow gorge
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Rover is just too good tbh. They really dish out damage

neat robin
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I need decent havoc pieces first 😔

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15k ult isnt doing anything in tower

knotty fiber
knotty fiber
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tbh

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back then

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I used Jiyan Hrover too

hollow gorge
knotty fiber
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cuz HRover was super quick at dealing with those 3

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yes

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Jiyan fken carry

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electro buff for what

edgy cobalt
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saw you removed first floor

knotty fiber
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yeah

edgy cobalt
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on stream

knotty fiber
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I did that again with Yinlin

edgy cobalt
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yeah she can solo them fine

hollow gorge
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I am just getting no luck with echoes Sadge

neat robin
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So 1 team (whatever your weakest is) for rt-1 and et-1
Whatever other team for 2&3
Jiyan for both 4s?

hollow gorge
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and echoes are just too much of a dealbreaker in this game

knotty fiber
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it's painful to level them up at this stage of the game

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but at least you don't need to build too many

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cuz you can share them

neat robin
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I think I’m gonna just leave cal/yinlin at +20s

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Jiyan is finished

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Need to get encore and hrover some proper echos now

knotty fiber
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either my Yinlin or Encore can solo (not really solo, with Baizhi) 3-R or 3-L depends on line up

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but I just brought them cuz why not

neat robin
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+10 echos rn

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& standard sword though. Need to finish leveling that too

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Ooh wait ok 26k ult crit

oak copper
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1 down

edgy cobalt
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I got my 11/12 on resonant so I'll just go for a completion on echoing tower

oak copper
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2nd down and now I gotta build a third team C_KEKTao

neat robin
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Yall too good

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I’m gonna go break my game using baizhi in depths

knotty fiber
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right

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one more reason that made HRover better than Mortefi

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cuz HRover could make use of Jiyan's outro skill

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which required heavy attack

edgy cobalt
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yea idk how 24 stars is possible with my lineups

cobalt apex
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thats a lot of them

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i should farm more

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(even tho flautist is the main problem)

neat robin
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I’m just having fun in depths

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Frame rate is sooo bad with all the extra effects. But fun

night mantle
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june 24th for asia, 23rd for NA

outer jetty
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Ayo

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5 milliion credit or we riot

edgy cobalt
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do need 5m creds before hitting UL50 yes

sterile swallow
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I definitely need credits since I'm pulling Jinhsi

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Her and her weapon will eat too much resources

weary acorn
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Any news on 1.1 beta for ww?

neat robin
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I’m at like a solid 25/80 pulls for jinhsi 😔

ripe pollen
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Genuinely tho, Kuro is cooked

outer jetty
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By July 4th they are burned

rotund drum
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they're competing with firefly next patch

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it wont be like yinlin where they only had to compete with midlinde

fierce tinsel
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then again, Firefly is literally Ayucka of HSR (both on shilling and how bad the characters are written as blatant baits)

olive osprey
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Dont rly care bout HSR noor do i play it, turn based gacha without skips is a skip for me

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Plua it has exploration and artifact endgame grind

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But HSR's treatment to its player is nice

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From what ive heard

cobalt apex
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i do play HSR but i dont care much about it

blissful tulip
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It's not as intensive as Genshin's just by the nature of the game alone

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Or Waves' for that matter

ebon jasper
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no skip story A_GaspTao

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1 million pages of bee movie script

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and fb minion memes

olive osprey
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Artifact grind is still never ending, so imma skip it A_smolhutao

cobalt apex
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tbh nowadays i dont even play it properly

olive osprey
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Once an open world arpg gacha that doesnt have this shitty system is released, im jumping ship

cobalt apex
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i just auto it in the background while playing genshin

cobalt apex
olive osprey
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Yeah same, but it's reverse1999 for me

weary acorn
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Hopefully they fix the music balance on 1.1

ebon jasper
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7 layer of hell on echo grind A_WheezeTao

weary acorn
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To whomever thought that background should have shit ass levels of volume while on 100%

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They should get cooked

cobalt apex
weary acorn
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Also they should hire vanguard studios again they can't cook

blissful tulip
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They are working on Waves, just via sound effects only A_LOLTao

weary acorn
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Still no beta for 1.1

ebon jasper
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20% base chance -> 80/20 gold -> 50% sonata -> 1/10 mainstats -> 5/13 subtastats -> substats range values
E_OMEGARAZOR

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6 layer*

weary acorn
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Or are they just going full on private testing

blissful tulip
edgy cobalt
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rip

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they need to make music for wuwa

ebon jasper
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i need my changli calcs for chixia A_smolhutao

weary acorn
cobalt apex
weary acorn
blissful tulip
edgy cobalt
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in the meantime

weary acorn
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Ngl sched for 1.1 means frontload for operation cost

ebon jasper
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unless they plan to add stat selector like pgr E_OMEGARAZOR

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or reroll

weary acorn
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Stall u more

olive osprey
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If wuwa doesnt keep improving, we can always jump ship to azur promillia E_pepelol

cobalt apex
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for u to feel like ur always short on one of the 2 resources

weary acorn
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They ain't copying pgr system

cobalt apex
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its so shit

weary acorn
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Cuz that shit will net them zero profit

ebon jasper
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the illusion of free choice

weary acorn
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This one drives refreshes

cobalt apex
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cause it doesnt matter how much resources u have

weary acorn
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Ngl I'll be fine if we get a massive decrease in cost

cobalt apex
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u'll always end up having one more than the other

weary acorn
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Like from 60 to 40

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On most

ebon jasper
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should be 30 for talent 40 for tacet and 60 for bosses

cobalt apex
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having to spend ur entire day of resin for 3 weekly bosses

ebon jasper
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1:1 stamina conversion A_GaspTao

olive osprey
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Echoes system is literally genshin artifact system, but grindier.
The only pros that it has is you have the option to hoard exp and tuners, and when a new patch with new BiS echoes is released, you can farm for it non stop without being stamina gated.

weary acorn
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20 for weekly or bustD_ZhongPogUPoint

blissful tulip
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I wonder if the 1.1 stream will be a disaster again

weary acorn
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Chat ngl wuwa has actually good drop rates for the craftable weapons

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I have like 8 idkE_OMEGARAZOR

weary acorn
ebon jasper
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devs listened!!

weary acorn
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Skill issue smh

ebon jasper
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which craftable even good there

weary acorn
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Ngl I ain't crafting a single shit here

cobalt apex
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ive only crafted 1 too E_OMEGARAZOR

weary acorn
ebon jasper
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verina is just variation or bricked E_pepelol

weary acorn
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Verina has 3 star options

cobalt apex
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broad is the one that's bricked

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either 3 star or 5*

weary acorn
rigid shore
weary acorn
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Helios cleaver just dropped for me and then it's barely an upgrade over the 3 star

ebon jasper
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jinhsi with jiyan sig and changli with her sig A_smolhutao

cobalt apex
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and the 4*/f2p options are so coped compare to sigs

blissful tulip
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Wonder how much this'll matter later on

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Only really matters now due to level gap

wheat moon
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when do you get to unlock havoc rover?

cobalt apex
wheat moon
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yeah but which

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ah

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thanks

cobalt apex
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welp i guess i got it

rigid shore
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surely something good will happen to me for preserving my fragiles

grim grove
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any weekly resets I need to worry about?

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i got a few hours left before it’s Monday

blissful tulip
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Only the weekly bosses

ebon jasper
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yall using engine.ini settings?

vapid river
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I can live with standard 5* sword or pistols

cobalt apex
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fortunately i can

vapid river
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And I'll be getting one in a week or so

cobalt apex
blissful tulip
vapid river
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I got super lucky the other day

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2 electro flautist

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And 1 bird

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Haven't been able to level them though

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Ul40 does help a bit

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Still would be nice if there were more than 15 of them

blissful tulip
knotty fiber
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@cobalt apex are you free? I want some fraudists and vherons plz E_pepelol

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Time to stack them up while I'm out of xp

cobalt apex
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uh im in the simulated universerthingy

knotty fiber
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Ogye
Just tell me when you're doing nothing worryThumbsUp

cobalt apex
olive osprey
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Every gacha should have at least these 3 imo: enganging endgame content, skip stories + dialogues, auto/sweep for daily stamina usage

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Hopefully thered be no more 3 cost echoes farming once we reach endgame

vapid river
cobalt apex
vapid river
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i think they're doing something about echo xp and that's about it

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yeah

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we have like 15 flautists

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literally

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but those giant stone golem things

cobalt apex
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they didnt say anything specific tho

vapid river
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there's like 40

cobalt apex
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so like

vapid river
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these things

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i needed one for like a moonlit set or some shit

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and there were soooo many

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took like 20-30 minutes to kill them all

cobalt apex
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i mean there are 72 of them on the map

vapid river
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yeah

cobalt apex
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this is so bad

vapid river
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is that the interactive map?

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oh ik there are only like 20 of those

cobalt apex
vapid river
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now check flautists

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if i had to give an accurate count

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i'd say 17

cobalt apex
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missed a digit

vapid river
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damn

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+10

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ain't no way there are more flautists than herons

cobalt apex
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lowest by far

vapid river
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though this game's tracking is fucked

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legit fucked

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i've gone through all the hoochiefs

cobalt apex
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game doesnt track all the mobs

vapid river
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the white and brown ones

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yeah

cobalt apex
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it track most

vapid river
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and i've still found more

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fucking scammed

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i've probably been missing 8 flautists a day then

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fuck me

cobalt apex
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tbh better than genshin tracking

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cause whatever tracking system genshin has

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is so ass

vapid river
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i've never used genshin tracking

cobalt apex
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it tracks like 10 groups

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and then stop

vapid river
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there are two here?

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deadass

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it shows me the one

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off the tp

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then i go south

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wtf

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THERE'S A FLAUTIST HERE????

cobalt apex
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tho electro is still by far the worst

vapid river
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100%

cobalt apex
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with 27 flautists and 23 vheron

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@knotty fiber u can join me now

vapid river
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it legit never shows this one either

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this is an outrage

ebon jasper
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use qiqi notebook site E_PoliwhirlConcern

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they got routes there

knotty fiber
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I will need to mark them

cobalt apex
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truly a tracker moment

knotty fiber
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better than genshit tracking

cobalt apex
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so truege

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that thing is unusable

vapid river
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nah this is a lie

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i think the tracker also put flautists from those like, tower challenge things

knotty fiber
vapid river
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yeah i can't either

knotty fiber
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looks like a one-time one

vapid river
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but there's a tower challenge

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yeah

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and it had one

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same with the one in the fire area

knotty fiber
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lemme check the one in memento square

vapid river
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sea of flames

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so the game probably does track all of them correctly

knotty fiber
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nah

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they indeed miss some

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probably not every TD

vapid river
knotty fiber
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but they do miss

vapid river
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ye this one north of the tp

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is a tower

knotty fiber
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my experience was this

cobalt apex
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the game tracked like 90%

knotty fiber
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north of this teleporter has

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3 roseshrooms

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that the trackers don't track for you

cobalt apex
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oh yea

vapid river
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ye

cobalt apex
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there are so many roseshrooms there

vapid river
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and this tp

cobalt apex
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and the game just missed all of them

vapid river
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has 2 hoochiefs

cobalt apex
vapid river
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and 2 of the menaces

knotty fiber
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4

vapid river
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that the game doesn't track

knotty fiber
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total of 4 hoochiefs

vapid river
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i mean they're technically different tracking wise

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which is fucking dumb

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they're all hoochiefs

knotty fiber
vapid river
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yeah this one

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in the tacit field

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not real

knotty fiber
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hit 20% 4/4 times

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I don't feel good

vapid river
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i love it when that happens though

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i usually take a ss

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and idk, this might sound tin foily

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but i think the moment it resets

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and you log in

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the game already knows which tds are going to drop echoes

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again, i have nothing to back this, it's just a gut feeling

cobalt apex
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that would screw the pity system so prob not

vapid river
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is there a pity system?

knotty fiber
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yes

cobalt apex
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yes

vapid river
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confirmed by devs?

knotty fiber
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for all kinds of TDs

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no

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confirmed by me and other testers

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I found it out like 3-4 days into the game

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for commons/elites/overlords/calamities, every 8/4/2/2 kills will give at least 1 echo

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that's how you farm btw

cobalt apex
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u just abuse the pity system

knotty fiber
cobalt apex
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tho for 3 cost its so annoying that i just gave up and only do it for 4 cost

knotty fiber
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I do manipulate cost 3 most of the time

cobalt apex
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i just play with rngsus 😔

vapid river
knotty fiber
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I expect 2 electro dmg electro set fraudists from your world today @cobalt apex

cobalt apex
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flautist is guaranteed

vapid river
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yeah taht sounds like a pain

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honestly using those rock guys to build pity

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sounds like a good idea though

cobalt apex
knotty fiber
vapid river
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well yeah it'll just reset

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ye?

cobalt apex
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yea

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and u have to do it all over again

vapid river
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yeah i get what it resetting means

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it's just killing 3 more things

vapid river
knotty fiber
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yes

vapid river
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turt and dreamless

cobalt apex
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which is basically 50/50 chance to retry every pity

knotty fiber
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you need to lose 20% in order to get the pity

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which is okay if you're trying for overlords and calamities

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but very risky for elites

cobalt apex
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u have to kill ~6 elites to get ur desired elite echo

knotty fiber
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I only kill 1-2 for pity

cobalt apex
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well thats less effort

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since the optimal way is so ass

knotty fiber
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it's the most optimal for me

vapid river
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how do the ones that are glowing affect pity?

knotty fiber
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it resets

vapid river
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the ones that guarantee a drop

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damn

knotty fiber
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glowing = guarantee

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it will reset your pity

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but if I'm not wrong

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if you teleport away

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it will lose it fucking glow

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💀

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happened to me ytd

cobalt apex
knotty fiber
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I saw 1 glowing fraudist

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decided to teleport away to spend my pity first

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cuz I was at 3/4

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I came back

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it lost its glow

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like wtf

vapid river
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now what happens if you're not the one who kills the glowing echo

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td*

knotty fiber
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doesn't matter

vapid river
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lame

knotty fiber
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still drops for everyone

vapid river
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LAME

knotty fiber
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it's very fucked cuz ykw

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even if you're miles away from your teammate

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if they kill something

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there's still a chance for it to drop for you

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same chance

vapid river
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yeah it resets the whole thing

knotty fiber
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and it will ruin your pity

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that's why

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farm with everyone

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or only 1 at a time

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this is when pity farming backfired

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I was at 2/4

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It can be 3/4 and 0/4

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0/4 this time

vapid river
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rip

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just kill the right one 4head

knotty fiber
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so yeah the safest is still 2/4

cobalt apex
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er calcharo goes hard

vapid river
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that's a lot of atk though

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so pog

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what wep do you have him on?

cobalt apex
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its standard so C_TaoHehe

knotty fiber
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it did drop @cobalt apex

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pepewheeze just the wrong rarity

cobalt apex
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i knew it

knotty fiber
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and the wrong set

cobalt apex
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hey i want that

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give

knotty fiber
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and least there's this

knotty fiber
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or 5 now

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thanks as always

vapid river
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damn, i wish i had known about this pity system before

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actually get flautists is nice

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instead of like 5 a day

cobalt apex
knotty fiber
vapid river
blissful tulip
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You will encounter it naturally while going for the one that is marked thankfully

knotty fiber
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probably 1 time?

vapid river
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i'll kill the two in that area and it'll tell me to go to the east

knotty fiber
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here

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doesn't have any

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I went past this place a couple times too

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never seen one

vapid river
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my server just reset

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and i just got an echo from one in that spot

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yesterday

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ye mine is there

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i just did detect

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and it's the one north of the tp

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not east

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but it's the only one i've seen that it doesn't pick up

cobalt apex
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mine also doesnt detect yea

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but its there

vapid river
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yeah currently fighting it

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go to retrack it

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and it's still the one up north

blissful tulip
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Think they're all at a competent enough level to 24* at UL50

cobalt apex
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probably

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if theres no element counter bs yea

vapid river
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damn, your chixia kinda stacked

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i take it you built her b/c you like her?

blissful tulip
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Besides that, she's incredibly comfortable on mobile

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I find her a spunkier Amber

vapid river
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crazy playing mobile

blissful tulip
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Just used to it

vapid river
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that's like getting used to walking on legos

blissful tulip
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Can be a massage for some

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Only thing I'm lacking now is damage and patience against Mephis

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Managed to dif 6 the other three

cobalt apex
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i dont have the patience for dif 6

limber imp
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Guys is changli in first or second half

outer jetty
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I now have low echo exp after just all +15 a char C_TaoHehe

vapid river
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pretty sure changli is 2nd half

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jinhsi is 1st

limber imp
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I hope she is

outer jetty
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I heard the same

vapid river
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more time to save

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oh?

limber imp
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Cause I kinda lost 50/50 on yinlin

vapid river
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another double banner

limber imp
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And I’m tryna get her

limber imp
outer jetty
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I got Yinlin in just 4 pulls. I am sure luck isnt on my side for changli A_smolhutao

vapid river
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oh i may have misunderstood what wiz said

limber imp
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I lost 50/50 after reaching hard pity on yinlin bannerA_GaspTao

outer jetty
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Fuck my life

vapid river
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ye i'm kinda chillin on leveling echoes for now

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till they make their changes in 1.1

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just to see what happens

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like it has to get better

blissful tulip
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At this rate I'm happy with playing the artifact game like Genshin

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Use Tacet Fields and data bank merge for echoes and exp

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Rather than ever considering farming them outside of 4 costs

knotty fiber
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I'm pretty sure they're not giving more from tacet field

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just events and one-time rewards

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which was alr stated in 1.1

outer jetty
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"Echo Mats" doesnt cover exp?

knotty fiber
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it does

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but it does not cover "tacet field"

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EN didn't specify it

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but both CN and JP specified events from 1.1 version and so on

cobalt apex
knotty fiber
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yield of echo and echo mats

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echo is probably the selector

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echo mats = xp and tuners

barren drift
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on set low rolls fk

cobalt apex
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fine/decent piece

barren drift
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6.3 is so

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doodo

cobalt apex
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truege

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lowest roll moment

barren drift
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i hoped reso skill/cdmg/

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man

cobalt apex
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res skill for who?

clear stump
barren drift
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their reso skill does some damage also

cobalt apex
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liter/skill basically equals

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and theyre both worse than flat atk

barren drift
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oh

cobalt apex
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on hrover the subs priorities are

clear stump
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Double crit with energy is the real endgame

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If you get that trinity you're done

cobalt apex
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crit > er > atk% > flat atk > others

clear stump
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The other 2 can be whatever

knotty fiber
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Liberation > skill in general

cobalt apex
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how many astrites for an S6 standard

blissful tulip
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Many

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The fact that he barely cleared as well

small bronze
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is 3 cost atk% instead of element much worse

cobalt apex
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on element set barely worse

small bronze
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also do we know 4* on 1.1 banners?

rotund drum
cobalt apex
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u already have so much dmg%

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40% from set and 30% from the other 3 cost

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not counting from subs

rotund drum
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with set bonus + echo you're looking at maybe 55% dmg bonus

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dmg subs are more specific but let's say you have 10% on every piece

cobalt apex
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unless u go 2 atk% 3 cost then yea thats significantly worse than 2 dmg%

rotund drum
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thats roughly 100% so the 60% from echo mainstats is marginal +30%

cobalt apex
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yes

rotund drum
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conversely you will have 36% atk from 1-cost echoes + whatever you get in atk% and flat atk subs

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and 300 flat attack from secondary stat on 3 and 4-costs

cobalt apex
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its 350 flat atk but yea

rotund drum
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nonwhales with 4* weapons get about 800 base atk

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so lets say 80% atk between 1-costs and subs and 400 flat atk

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thats 1840 atk

cobalt apex
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assuming u dont use atk% 4*

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which isnt true

rotund drum
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60% atk mainstat would be 480 more attack which is 26% increase

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also not even counting atk% on weapon

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i forgot about that

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and the fact that your base is even lower atm because we're not at max level yet

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so its actually like 650 base attack on top of 400 flat

small bronze
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i just fell into a house

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at the synthesizer

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lmao

rotund drum
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so lets say 650 x 2 + 400

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60% is about 22% of that

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so 22% vs 30% and thats assuming you roll the correct dmg% sub on every piece

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realistically the dmg% echoes are probably closer to 40%

cobalt apex
#

thats a lot of assumption on chars, weapons and stats

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it also depends on which ones ur using

rotund drum
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the 4*s are probably even worse

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its probably good for yuanwu though

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since his base def is really high and there's no flat def stat

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41.5% straight increase on each def% piece

cobalt apex
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for now yea elemental% takes the spot

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tho atk% scales better with investment and levels

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since we dont have any crazy atk source (yet)

rotund drum
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midwu actually seems ok if you have s3

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might actually be better than yinlin

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1300 base def at current player levels

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41.5% def mainstat on each piece

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s3 adds 20% mv to his CA so he gets like 25%

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compared to midlin who does like 60% atk

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but midwu is gonna have like 3k+ def vs midlin having maybe like 1.5k atk

blissful tulip
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Barely see him used

rotund drum
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i think people dont like him because of said multipliers and because he's old

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lets see the math on this though

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def fists are 61.6%, echo mainstat is 41.5%, iirc the def mainstat on 1-costs is also 18%

blissful tulip
rotund drum
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180% def bonus

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he probably has some in subs but too lazy to check

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sub traces i mean

blissful tulip
#

He does, yeah

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Electro dmg% as well

rotund drum
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he has roughly 1600 base def at lv90 so thats 1600 x 2.8 = 4480 def

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add 40% from set bonus and ignore electro echo bonus since im too lazy to look up what it does

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4480 x 1.4 = 6272

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base scaling on CA goes up to 8% so 28% of 6272 = 1756 base damage per CA

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yinlin is 80% base damage of standard atk stats which is gonna be like 1.7k atk

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with jinzhou keeper

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40% set bonus and 2x dmg echoes = 100% dmg bonus

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so 3400 x .8 = 2720

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seems reasonably close for 4* vs. 5* and no field time

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honestly both are bad so if you just want to have a CA to build JS stacks yuanwu is probably better overall

lament shuttle
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which weapon yall pick at ul45

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i already got sword from standard pulls so thinking broadsword or another sword

blissful tulip
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You can pick the pistol for a future gun 5*, whenever they come

lament shuttle
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Gun is good too hmm but no users

edgy cobalt
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gun is designed for mortefi

small bronze
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i got jiyan sig so i dont taske broad and i will take sword for changli

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i was thinking about yinlin but ill just take next battlepass weapon

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for her

oak copper
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sword feels like so much of an obvious pick rn that I'm wondering if a second might be the right choice given how many sword users we already have that are atleast somewhat relevant

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Pistol is on the supportive side so idk how well its gonna hold up if they release a 5* pistol user, so its mainly a question if you wanna invest into Mortefi/Aalto dmg or play Chixia but its probably the next choice after sword overall.

small bronze
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how do i know peoples data bank lvl :c

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it looks like if i join someone with bad

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i get bad drops?

rotund drum
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just hold the box imo

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atk 5*s are just stat sticks and not even very good ones

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consider how often you use squidward atlas or amos bos

lament shuttle
lilac hare
lament shuttle
lilac hare
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Ive seen people with ul 34+- with a databank lvl 13 A_GaspTao and all I got was 1-2* drops or something

lilac hare
rotund drum
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is it over for the echo farmers

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all those hours wasted

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its probably a multiplicative 20% though so w/e

lament shuttle
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Surely it’s 40%

night mantle
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nah it will be 40%

rotund drum
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cope

kind turtle
blissful tulip
rotund drum
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what we really need for echo farming is a char with a really big aoe spammable skill that does enough to one-shot a pack

blissful tulip
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When do we get the 2x Tacet field event? The 20th?

rotund drum
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there's a lot of zones with dozens of mobs in close proximity but spread just far enough apart to be annoying

blissful tulip
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Not really spammable, but big aoe

rotund drum
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like any of the zones with the hilichurl looking guys has them spawning in packs of 4-5 but spaced out of aoe/succ range

kind turtle
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Does it mean you can get multiple drops from your enhanced drop rates with a 108% drop chance

rotund drum
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jianxin can usually get them all with one channel but her channel is slow itself and she cant spam it

small bronze
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i joined someone with 41

kind turtle
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Just get yinlin c6 for AoE farming

small bronze
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and i was getting blue

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drops

rotund drum
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maybe jue will save it

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jinhsi verina srover all with jue

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run around spamming Q

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probs doesnt actually do enough though

cobalt apex
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mech abom works E_pepelol

rotund drum
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maybe if you reduce the WL

lilac hare
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I did that multiple times

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If it’s low I didn’t bother

lament shuttle
blissful tulip
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Oh, on the 19th? Neat

lament shuttle
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It’s the week before 1.1 which is next week so should be

kind turtle
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20th > 27th should be

cobalt apex
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more xp

blissful tulip
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2x Tacet exp rewards will feel very nice

lament shuttle
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We complain once it goes away

night mantle
lament shuttle
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And they make it permanent

blissful tulip
lament shuttle
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😄

kind turtle
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Yeah using cubes won't be helpful

night mantle
blissful tulip
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I'll likely prefarm now, then, as I'll likely get to UL50 in a week

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Hopefully 3.5 days is enough for the boss drops to favour me

kind turtle
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😔

knotty fiber
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If multiple drop is possible for an item, then it's possible at any %

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Even 1%

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The thing is just do they code it to allow it or now

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For echo drop, most likely not

kind turtle
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it's gonna be a random generator and if generated is lower than drop odds then it drops one

neat robin
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Hmmm idk if I should use weekly drops on dreamless for hrover or rider for encore

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My cdmg dreamless has 6.3 cr sub 😔

limber imp
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Is changli good with calcharo

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And yinlin

blissful tulip
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Please let this piece be good Kuro A_HuPray, I need that 30% fusion to deal 800 per skill

kind turtle
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why is that a task

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what if people have maxed every character

rotund drum
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time to spend money then

neat robin
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Howd that help

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If theres no more chars to level

blissful tulip
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New characters, assuming you do not own them

limber imp
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Guys how does wuwa dmg work

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Like are the 800s and 1000s good

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Or like genshin and HSR

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In the 100ks and the 1m

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Like what’s the standard

rotund drum
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scalings are overall lower

limber imp
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Like what’s like considered nuke dmg

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In genshin and HSR it’s like 1 mil

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With Acheron and neuv and arle

rotund drum
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anything in the 10k range is considered decent at current levels

limber imp
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Oh alr

rotund drum
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considering we have like half the atk stat and mvs

neat robin
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Highest nuke ive seen is a clip of hrover 130k ult

rotund drum
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midqiu dealing like 100% damage per sword while midtefi hits like 20% lol

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iirc midcore's skill hits about 500% at lv6 which is already considered pretty high

limber imp
rotund drum
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while it'd be considered crap in genshit

neat robin
kind turtle
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would be 130k, my encore has hit 15k before

limber imp
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Oh alr

rotund drum
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star fail has relatively low MVs as well but their buffers are really bloated

limber imp
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I’m still union lvl 15

neat robin
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Comsidering my +5-10 echo rover hits 26k crits already with lv60 sword

rotund drum
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sparkle giving like 50% dmg buff and 100 cdmg etc

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vs verina giving 15% deepen and 20% atk

limber imp
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Is it possible with 30 pity to get yinlin and changli

neat robin
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Its almost like enemies have different hp & def pools too

rotund drum
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doubt

limber imp
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Like get yinlin in the remaining days

rotund drum
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you'll probs have to reroll if you want her

kind turtle
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inferno rider just did 17k pog

neat robin
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If you’re lucky & get yinlin early
Then win changli 50/50 wCoffee

lilac hare
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I think the best dmg I did was 36K

rotund drum
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you get a lot of primogems and free fates early on

lilac hare
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With jiyan

kind turtle
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eyyy there we go

rotund drum
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so if he can get yinlin early he can probably get changli guarantee

lilac hare
limber imp
kind turtle
rotund drum
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i think someone estimated that you get about 22k primos from all the chests and quests and stuff in 1.0 permanent content

limber imp
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Is changli good w calcharo

neat robin
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Changli buffs fusion

rotund drum
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no

limber imp
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Yeah and ult dmg

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Which would be good for calsharto

rotund drum
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changli probably wants a fusion buffer to support her as mdps

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midcharo hogs too much field time

limber imp
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I’m gonna use the ugly monk with her if

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I got that ugly aang bootleg instead of wuwa kafka

rotund drum
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its a chinese game so that description applies to like half the cast

limber imp
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I don’t remember her name

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Yinyang aang bootleg monk who uses gauntlets

rotund drum
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they're all generic chinese names anyway

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idk who aang is

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jianxin probs

limber imp
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Aang avatar the last surrender

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Siebende r

rotund drum
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jianxin is probably fine since she buffs ult damage and can burst

limber imp
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AIRBENDER OMG

rotund drum
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while having a shield channel to fill field time

limber imp
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the yin Yang girl

rotund drum
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sietebender

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they're all yin yang girls

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theres yuanwu and chixia too

limber imp
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Standard yinyang guantlet girl

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Who’s a 5 star

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And aero

rotund drum
#

anyway you could probably make changcharo work but you'd have to change midcharo's build

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give him mech with atk set

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use him as quickswap

limber imp
#

What if I get yinlin

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And use yinlin calcharo and changli

rotund drum
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idk what yinlin actually does other than be premium yuanwu tbh

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shes probably generically ok as subdps

limber imp
#

For some reason In every single game I play I have electro main Dps

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Clorinde

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Acheron

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Calcharo

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What is this madness

rotund drum
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genshit doesnt have any good electro main dps still iirc

limber imp
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I clearly have a type

rotund drum
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theres e2 raiden i guess

limber imp
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Clorinde???

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Hellooo

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Best electro Dps in the game

rotund drum
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she looks pretty mid to me

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i didnt pull for her though

limber imp
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I actually used her

rotund drum
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idk how her icds work

neat robin
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Genshin electros are drivers

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Not main dps like arle or neuv would be

limber imp
#

My rotation with her takes about 4 secs to clear bosses

rotund drum
#

kinda doubt that

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4s in genshit is one skill > ult

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animations take forever

limber imp
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Her skill only

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Which takes little animation

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Her duration is 7.5 secs

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I finished and had 3 secs remaining

rotund drum
#

her skill is literally like 50% damage

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i doubt you're one-shotting any bosses with that

limber imp
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I mean there’s furina in my team but we aren’t talking an that

rotund drum
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furina E > Q is already more than 4s lmao

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wuwa stopping timers during ults is a huge buff to a lot of chars

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imagine if you lost like 3 seconds literally every time jianxin does her ult

limber imp
#

No like I mean in clorindes skill

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I only need to use 4 secs

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Ofc it takes a bit more time to set everything up

neat robin
#

How dead are they from fischl furina before you get to clor

limber imp
#

Well not Fischl rlly

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Yae

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So only about maybe 10% of their hp

neat robin
#

Entire rot start to finish my fastest is 20-30s for cyno to kill a 12-3 boss
And half of that is just setup

limber imp
#

Cause I don’t rlly use yae in my rot

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I only go Nahida skill furina skill ult then clor

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Yaes just there to look pretty

rotund drum
#

hes probably talking about world bosses

limber imp
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And Raiden

rotund drum
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i highly doubt he's killing anything in 4s in moc12

limber imp
#

But Raiden took a bit longer

limber imp
rotund drum
#

toa/moc/abyss yeah

neat robin
#

Id love to see your clor stats
Or its c6

limber imp
#

Honestly she’s pretty basic

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Ofc I’m leaving some very crucial information

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That probably makes it make sense

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Furinas C3 sooo

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It’s a team effort

rotund drum
#

anyway anyone can kill in 5s (so long as you spend 20s setting it up)

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changli's skill cds are kinda too long to enable quickswap so you need her to stay onfield to build stacks

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and chars like calcharo/encore/etc hog too much field time so any onfield you're doing is just offset by losing field time on those other chars

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better to have a quickswap or buffer (which doesnt really exist atm)

blissful tulip
#

Farming it in 1.1 is going to take a while A_HuPensive

neat robin
rotund drum
#

did they confirm adding anything to simuni in 1.1

neat robin
#

Damn. They dont let you speedrun echos

blissful tulip
rotund drum
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lv2 dreamless dies in like two hits anyway fortunately

blissful tulip
#

The mode itself won't change for some time

rotund drum
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i assume jinhsi and changli

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hopefully more rewards than 15 primogems per char too

blissful tulip
#

The main draw is going to be the shop resetting every patch, has some decent rewards and nice looking shinies

rotund drum
#

simuni in star fail is fun but wuwa is just one and done

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does it reset

blissful tulip
#

The shop does have a countdown

#

I'd assume so

rotund drum
#

i dont remember it actually having a countdown

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i would have to look again

#

i remember thinking it was just a glorified beta event since it had an expiration timer and all the rewards didnt list as refreshing

#

but maybe thats the refresh timer

blissful tulip
#

The mode is technically still in "beta" according to the game itself, but I don't like it being half-assed, wouldn't have minded its rewards being redistributed elsewhere and it releasing sometime in the deader patches

limber imp
#

I hope we get some apologems cause the game keeps crashing

rotund drum
#

seems fine to me so probably not

#

they wont give us shit unless people complain

blissful tulip
blissful tulip
#

Seems that by this, our shop will reset every patch, which will take around 2-3h of grinding or so to fully fill

#

As you have to do 10 runs at Dif 4

weary acorn
blissful tulip
#

Made it better for some, made it worse for some

#

Not the first time A_HuPensive

cobalt cobalt
#

My game has started lag spiking at random times

neat robin
#

I’m missing cr on one havoc% piece 😭

#

+4.3% more cr after sword gets to lv90

rotund drum
#

but a reset would be nice

#

iirc the shop has primogems and other stuff

blissful tulip
#

Has mora, echo exp, the 2 3 cost selectors and a few other resources which are nice

#

They may add new shinies to the shop

rotund drum
#

iirc if its a resetting shop the items will be grayed out and show a timer for the reset

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but the simuni shop the items just disappear

blissful tulip
#

Just saying it doesn't only apply to the SU store

knotty fiber
#

illusive dream is an event for now

#

it will go away at the end of this patch

kind turtle
#

They said it will be back in 1.1, but the timings are weird

grim grove
#

do i need to farm more sets and obtain more weapons for each character for tower of adversity?

rotund drum
#

yes

#

enjoy your grind

grim grove
#

so I need another healing set for Baizhi

rotund drum
#

you can swap verina's to her

#

between fights

#

or just use jianxin as your sustain

grim grove
#

wait if I can swap why do I need another set

blissful tulip
#

To avoid loading screens

rotund drum
#

you dont need another set if multiple chars can use the same ones but its a pain to swap them

#

verina and baizhu both scale off atk though so you can just kinda halfass it on baizhu

#

ideally you shouldnt need that much healing anyway

#

just use baizhu for the easier ones then put verina's set back on for the hard ones

neat robin
#

Baizhi scales on hp

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Verina atk

#

But tbh if you just need the 5pc set buff
Have 1 hb Bell, 2 er 3cost to share, and just have lv1 atk/hp 1cost on both

#

They can both use the same catalyst too

fickle kernel
#

why does sanhua have the hard tag on prydwyn

edgy cobalt
#

perhaps its hard to time her fortes for some

fickle kernel
#

i guess mobile could be hard

#

but everything hard on mobile

edgy cobalt
#

and fast combos

blissful tulip
#

Not everyone can consistently time her forte

edgy cobalt
#

pretty sure the site detailed those points in their review

blissful tulip
#

She has a harder gameplay loop in comparison to, for example, Yangyang

fickle kernel
#

also her 2nd passive is so weird

neat robin
#

Who was gonna tell me you can change your hud wCoffee

#

This is so nice on mobile the default placement sucks

midnight bloom
#

Anyone have sheet for droprates on each sol3 phase?

rotund drum
#

the problem is that its hard to see her forte bar a lot of the time because the ice effects overlap with it

#

and make it invisible

#

so you just have to guess the timing

neat robin
#

Ult > forte > skill for hrover talents?

kind turtle
# midnight bloom Anyone have sheet for droprates on each sol3 phase?

only what i've managed to collect so far (not a huge amount)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hyxsMVpaOLpEq9FhfL2xYN-iAwhzm5BpTbvzhORG0AI/

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CAN FOBM4STER STOP SKIPPING THE XP DROPS GOD

#

there we go, a 4 gold 4 purple drop, 28k XP

#

i think the XP pattern is pretty noticeable

blissful tulip
#

1k extra exp for every UL breakpoint is terrible

kind turtle
#

yeah it's not great

#

full table currently

#

would be bigger if fob didnt skip half of the XP views

weary acorn
#

Fingers cross they'll buff this

teal sparrow
#

What abt union lvl exp table

kind turtle
#

fobm4ster has

kind turtle
lament shuttle
#

Whale hit 50 2 days about

#

Ago

kind turtle
#

yeah

#

3-4 days i think

#

i didnt update my calculator today

#

fuck

weary acorn
#

Jinshi uses a new set right?

kind turtle
#

there is no new set

#

she uses the spectro set

#

just a new 4 cost

weary acorn
#

Nice

rotund drum
#

hopefully the new 4-cost saves spectro

#

summon 4-cost is pretty cracked though

#

maybe they'll nerf it by making it a transform

#

a lot of the 1-costs are already pretty busted at like 200% damage just because they're summons