wuwa went up like 100 places in the app rankings once the banner wasnt just jiyan lol
#・wuwa-lounge
rotund drum
ripe pollen
i like him 
cobalt cobalt
He’s fun
neat robin
Favourite so far definitely
But then thats also gameplay. Cyno main, I’m used to team > ult > na spam 
burnt shoal
is jiyan getting powercreep too
neat robin
I fumble quickswaps so much using cal
cobalt cobalt
He reminds me of my xiao main days back in early genshin
burnt shoal
rip jiyan
rotund drum
you say that now but once 1.1 drops literally no one will be using him outside of maybe some niche wind-favored content
and breaking ores maybe
rotund drum
its nice to just ult and hold the button and afk for a while i guess
instead of having to mash click
neat robin
Jiyan in 1.2 as well, if it does end up scar and camylla wtvr her name is
cobalt cobalt
you say that now but once 1.1 drops literally no one will be using him outside o...
You say that and yet that’s unfounded
burnt shoal
jiyan feels bad to play?
cobalt cobalt
That’s subjective
neat robin
It must get so tiring being so negative all the time
rotund drum
it must get so tiring having to shill for the game all the time
but i dont jump down your throat for it
burnt shoal
but devs listened /s
neat robin
Nah bro you’re in here daily bitching about this or that
cobalt cobalt
God forbid someone doesn’t doompost and actually enjoys playing a videogame
ripe pollen
how good is sanhua?
cobalt cobalt
neat robin
how good is sanhua?
Very
burnt shoal
how good is sanhua?
shes at the top in cn tier list
ripe pollen
shes at the top in cn tier list
got a link to this cn tier list?
ripe pollen
I have C2 Sanhua, C0 Mortefi, Jiyan, Yinlin
And Verina.
I'm currently trying to decide what teams to build to crush tower early on
neat robin
Jiyan mort verina is one
blissful tulip
Sanhua's best teammates are HRover, Lingyang and Encore
ripe pollen
Sanhua's best teammates are HRover, Lingyang and Encore
Why's she good with havoc rover?
blissful tulip
But she works with anyone as a competent sub dps
burnt shoal
got a link to this cn tier list?
ripe pollen
That's pretty old tho isnt it
blissful tulip
Why's she good with havoc rover?
Havoc Rover's alternate playstyle is forte state, Sanhua enhances basic attacks which HRover benefits from
neat robin
Still same. Theres just no yinlin on it
cobalt cobalt
That's pretty old tho isnt it
Can’t be that old since the game is new
ripe pollen
Havoc Rover's alternate playstyle is forte state, Sanhua enhances basic attacks ...
Alternate playstyle?
neat robin
Hrover for nuke, or can use the enhanced basics
blissful tulip
Alternate playstyle?
Yes, he has two he generally uses
Main DPS, and burst quickswap nuke
ripe pollen
Which is the stronger playstyle?
Also I guess I should ask, would Sanhua be good with Jinhsi?
lilac ravine
Alternate playstyle?
:slight_smile:
blissful tulip
Both are viable and turn out about the same assuming you use HRover with anyone else, Sanhua just enhances his main DPS capabilities
neat robin
Depends on second teammate doesnt it?
Use quickswap nuke with another lower fieldtime dps, or use forte state with an offfield like sanhua
blissful tulip
Most use nuke quickswap, however, so take that as you will
blissful tulip
Also I guess I should ask, would Sanhua be good with Jinhsi?
No, Jinshi is a skill attacker
ripe pollen
Most use nuke quickswap, however, so take that as you will
Yeah that's what I'm thinking
People were talking about using basic attack xiangling back when genshin released
Thinking it was good
blissful tulip
HRover's basic attacks are not weak, and he regains extra energy in the state due to his second passive talent
cobalt cobalt
Rover wouldn’t have enhanced basics if you weren’t supposed to use them
ripe pollen
Rover wouldn’t have enhanced basics if you weren’t supposed to use them
I mean it could just be diluting a kit's power budget
It happens a lot with free units.
So hm
Jiyan Mortefi Verina
HRover Sanhua ???
And ??? Yinlin ???
Roster rn
cobalt cobalt
Early genshin in 1.0 I used xingqiu fischl keqing
neat robin
Baizhi is second support
neat robin
Verina on one, baizhi on another
Bell & 5pc healing set (doesnt need to be levelled)
Wdym? Ult skill bell and outro off
edgy cobalt
jiyan will definitely stay in meta for a year
ripe pollen
Verina on one, baizhi on another
Bell & 5pc healing set (doesnt need to be level...
They do need to be lvled for verina to have enough ER tho no?
edgy cobalt
literally hold left click on ult and everyone ded
I can take a sip of water while he's on ult lmao
neat robin
I have verina with Variation (er 4* weapon)
And just er mainstat 3cost
She has enough energy already
edgy cobalt
I'm still trying to find my second er echo after 2 weeks but even at 200% er she can manage
220-230% is the comfort zone tho
ripe pollen
mine has 202.1% rn
neat robin
Mines 175 er and does fine 
ripe pollen
but that's not with 5p healing
neat robin
I’ll easily go above 200 if I actually level her echos lol
edgy cobalt
like if you want her to have ult every single rotation then you follow the 220-230% goal
goal to 300% er when
neat robin
It would be wonderful if I didnt roll cdmg subs on glow pieces
burnt shoal
I’ll easily go above 200 if I actually level her echos lol
I got ER first tune on one echo and on second tune in another on my verina set
stopped tuning her set after that
neat robin
I was wondering why I couldnt get baizhis ult back properly in tower…
I have double glacio% on her 
Can I just say
Its still just 1.0 but chars of the same element have different colour attacks and I love it
kind turtle
was wondering about how much echoXP you waste by spamming gold vs granular upgrading, cause UL increases just seem to give more gold but reduce the purple, and luckily you arent wasting too much XP other than +10 and +25, and +25 you dont care too much
knotty fiber
you say that now but once 1.1 drops literally no one will be using him outside o...
meanwhile me almost 3* electro-buffed side with Jiyan
yeah
neat robin
Its rough out here
neat robin
..or cdmg
knotty fiber
out of cdmg, er%, flat%
it didn't roll in
it chose def
looks like I need to reach here before 3:30 to have a chance
my Mortefi isn't done yet ;;
spice finch
Hello. Can i see guys your baizhi talent
neat robin
I think I’m happy now
Need to bring these echos from 15-20 up to 25 now
ripe pollen
oh, so it's not just tower of hazard?
kind turtle
all 3 in the hazard zone reset
ripe pollen
i see
so i need to clear them asap
hmmmm
so it looks like you can clear resonant tower and echoing tower
with weaker teams?
and reserve your absolute gigateam for tower of hazard?
kind turtle
you can mix and match as much as you want, yeah
kind turtle
yeah
but also more expensive
i'm currently at 15* because only my encore team is good
kind turtle
both floors in the hazard zone cost 5, but there's only 6* available
vs the 12* in the other towers
ripe pollen
yeah
the most important thing is to clear echo and reso towers
since majority of rewards are from those and they are easier
while hazard tower is gigatough
kind turtle
yeah
neat robin
Mmm if I wanna use jiyan for both f4 lv90 bosses I need to go back and 3* that stupid exiles 3-3 with cal yinlin
ripe pollen
hm
so the smart thing to do
is to not waste your best units on the easier floors
for example you could use verina on both sides, costing 4 vigor each right
on the final floor that is
of echo and reso towers
oak copper
for example you could use verina on both sides, costing 4 vigor each right
yup, if you have a definite best Team you wanna do second and third floors on both sides with a second Team so your best Team can do both Bosses
neat robin
Okay nah doesnt matter
My jiyan only gets 1* on both heron and mephis rn
Unbuilt mort’s 50 dmg per ult tick doesnt help anything lol
neat robin
Boo
Okay 19* it is with only three lv70 chars
rotund drum
jue looks pretty op tbh
is it over for aix simps
well op for midhsi
300% damage for a summon type echo is good overall i guess
knotty fiber
I wonder if Jinhsi can repeatedly use skills
that makes 48% dps
Jué gives 352% dmg every 6s if she can maintain the skill usage
and it counts as skill dmg too
what a bitch
edgy cobalt
taoqi users rise up
burnt shoal
jue is playable?
lilac hare
Wasn’t jue the dragon that jinshi is searching for? 
barren drift
jue is playable?
no
knotty fiber
jue is playable?
yes
as an Echo
rotund drum
I wonder if Jinhsi can repeatedly use skills
3s cd on the regular skill i think
so it should recharge by the time your boosted version is done
should be able to do skill > superskill > air combo > supersuperskill > one more skill before swapping
the first stack should probably be back by then too
for refresh
rotund drum
its actually superskill > supersuperskill > air combo > supersupersuperskill > skill i guess
she has 4 different skill variants
edgy cobalt
my queen is still lvl1 btw
rigid shore
my queen is still lvl1 btw
so beautiful
edgy cobalt
you were so close to max rolls on crit
had it been 10.5% crit rate oh boy
using all that luck for lingyang
cobalt apex
cobalt apex
send help pwease <@694499784509358120>
wha
cobalt apex
it shows 
knotty fiber
and yes, I do
I used all solvents and I do refresh most of the time
2 times max per day
cobalt apex
i think i can get 45 tmr
wo any refresh
(i might have missed the first daily so that kinda suck)
knotty fiber
I was killing at my friend's world while they were killing other elites
which resulted into me not getting any drop in like 8 of them
cuz 20% drop rate sucks and my pity kept getting stolen by the ones they killed
olive osprey
Does anyone have the link for me to copy this sheet? https://bsky.app/profile/leifachan.bsky.social/post/3ksyxdl3bxi24
cobalt apex
olive osprey
Nvm im manually copying it rn 
cobalt apex
i love this game
also yea 107 im 100%ing map so i might accidentally steal some of ur pity
knotty fiber
also yea 107 im 100%ing map so i might accidentally steal some of ur pity
actually dropped more than I thought
only 1 purple also
now
moment of truth
knotty fiber
cobalt apex
knotty fiber
not again
5th one TODAY
5th electro set electro main
5 of them in 1 day is crazy
cobalt apex
knotty fiber
(secretly) farming for Yinlin and Changli
I broke the pity for Yinlin cuz I started to think she's cuter than I thought
cobalt apex
i just realized im also missing a 3 cost for Changli
knotty fiber
I've got both cost 3 for Changli
but one of them is kinda low roll
so I'm farming just in case
I also need something for Encore too
what I have for Changli rn
not upgrading fusion anymore
trying to unbrick my Yinlin but the vheron refuses to stop fucking me up
both vheron from selector went garbage too
cobalt apex
that dreadmane is real goodge
knotty fiber
yeah
really good
she uses 4/5 of those rolls
the cost 1 still kinda bad
cuz ult dmg isn't that high for Changli
and she has 0 HA
cobalt apex
im still thinking about getting a set ready rn
since i hate inferno rider from my heart
knotty fiber
idk if I should stress about making an inferno rider
cuz it's not that good for her
cobalt apex
also uncancellable makes me cringe
knotty fiber
missed a Yinlin ult cuz it flew up
cobalt apex
how many stars have u got
blissful tulip
Thank the lords it doesn't have the hologram moveset yet
Wastes even more time with it
knotty fiber
it flew up again 
right at the end
neat robin
I have skill issue
I cant beat either x-4 boss for 2+ stars and my jiyan is up to ~6k per tic when fully buffed and ulting
I should just go work on mort echos tbh 
rigid shore
skill issue
regal oasis
are you guys getting changli sig?
hollow gorge
I have skill issue
I cant beat either x-4 boss for 2+ stars and my jiyan is up t...
you have to give up regen then after all
neat robin
Ye will try with the aero piece on later today
storm ledge
are you guys getting changli sig?
I'm waiting for calcs on how much better it is compared to standard 5* + cons
cobalt apex
are you guys getting changli sig?
depends on its strength and 1.2 char roster
night mantle
so jinhsi has 2 of the best 4* supports and their sequences are really good
vapid river
so jinhsi has 2 of the best 4* supports and their sequences are really good
shame i won't be pulling on it though
maybe to build pity
like a single 10 pull
cobalt apex
im fine with s2 sanhua so prob not going to pull on it
night mantle
check you might be amazed
vapid river
ye i'm reading through sanhua rn
i haven't used her really so i'm not sure what she's meant to do
but it just seems like it's self dmg increase and res regen
oh her last seq is really good
wtf
maybe i'll give it 2 10 pulls
to see if i can get her twice
damn so is danjin's
cobalt apex
aiming for a specific 4* cons isnt for me
vapid river
why are all of their last seqs atk buff?
cobalt apex
since im not all that lucky with 4*s
blissful tulip
why are all of their last seqs atk buff?
Suppose it's just standard for 4* supports
I actually like a lot of the 4* kits in this game
They're simple yet effective
vapid river
Suppose it's just standard for 4* supports
ye, except for taoqi and aalto it seems(we ignore yuanwu, he's not a real person)
blissful tulip
Yuanwu lacks damage despite his kit being crafted well 
vapid river
ig baizhi is a glacio buff
blissful tulip
Although he does well with Yinlin's buffs
vapid river
Yuanwu lacks damage despite his kit being crafted well <:A_HuPensive:80755102594...
just increase the scaling of def
or change it to atk and make that buff his defense
blissful tulip
It does scale very highly, up to a certain extent at least
vapid river
if verina can gain %healing from atk why can't he gain def from it
night mantle
sanhua buffs are are 35% self dmg inc, 100% self crit dmg inc and 10% atk buff for team and combine it with 20% skill dmg and 20% forte dmg through skills
blissful tulip
sanhua buffs are are 35% self dmg inc, 100% self crit dmg inc and 10% atk buff f...
100% self crit dmg? I must've missed it
Ah, her S5
night mantle
yup
vapid river
only on ice burst
then all ice creations will explode, ice thorn ice prism and glacier
idk if they also get the dmg buff
night mantle
only on ice burst
still coz her rotation is intro, skill, burst and boosted then switch
blissful tulip
The 4* sequences seem very good in this game 
Makes me feel even less lucky for some of the 4*'s I pulled
vapid river
with how they've been on translating things it's hard to say if it applies to everything
vapid river
still coz her rotation is intro, skill, burst and boosted then switch
idk what you're trying to say here >.>
i was just clarifying that's it's not an across the board 100% cdmg increase
rather it only applies to ice burst(and possibly the subsequent explosions)
b/c they've had a real shit time with localizing/translating in general
i'm guessing it applies to all of her abilities
which is cool
night mantle
prob
vapid river
otherwise i'm not sure why they'd add that in there
but ye at s6 after the explosion you get the instant 20%
so long as you have both an ice prism and glacier
blissful tulip
Poor Aalto, Taoqi and Yuanwu
cobalt apex
undeserved but alright
blissful tulip
If only they had slightly higher multipliers
night mantle
I have S6 chixia and S5 mortefi and other are S1 or S2
cobalt apex
i have S6 danjin and the other are S3-
keen jackal
early jiyan
early yinlin
early s1 jiyan
early s1 yinlin
s1 jiyan took the most pulls
at 60 pity
the rest are under 5 pity
LMFAO
I LOVE U KURO GAMES
vapid river
i didnt get jiyan sig unfortunately
did you get yinlin sig?
keen jackal
idk how to set those up
night mantle
early jiyan
check you position here you might be top 0.1% https://astrite.gg/
blissful tulip
I have S6 chixia and S5 mortefi and other are S1 or S2
Apparently Aalto works very well with Chixia assuming you have perfect positioning, but if that were the case a lot of folks would have used it
From the showcases I've seen with Aalto he requires an ungodly amount of effort
keen jackal
yea the dmg increase from bp weap is so noticable
vapid river
the fact that it's worded as "attribute dmg bonus"
instead of electric dmg
is so fucking huge
night mantle
Apparently Aalto works very well with Chixia assuming you have perfect positioni...
agree, but for chixia and only for chixia I feel that every second you are not on her you lose dmg
vapid river
Apparently Aalto works very well with Chixia assuming you have perfect positioni...
pretty sure he wants a lot of time on field as well
blissful tulip
His S3 does increase Aalto's damage by 40% apparently, maybe I could try him again 
night mantle
me on featured banner
blissful tulip
pretty sure he wants a lot of time on field as well
I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try, he was the first 4* I obtained from the gacha
(Not including the starters)
10% attack increase seems very alright
night mantle
Hmm
S6 of every 4* except taoqi and aalto gives some type of buff to the team
mostly atk of 10-20% and yuanwu is def
blissful tulip
Taoqi used to
keen jackal
ok am back
night mantle
🙂
keen jackal
holy so much to do
vapid river
number of attempts?
keen jackal
to set it up on ios
barren drift
maybe whales with more pulls
barren drift
have won more 50s
keen jackal
wuwa takes like genuinely 20 min to open on my laptop but i might just do it instead
cobalt apex
mine went great
keen jackal
cuz holy yap on ios method
cobalt apex
hoping to lose more 50/50 in the future
blissful tulip
Hmm
Too difficult to take advantage of
10% atk for the amount of effort and duration of Aalto's ult is laughable
night mantle
10% atk for the amount of effort and duration of Aalto's ult is laughable
I have heard there is something wrong with his skill as well
vapid river
damn my stats on standard banner though
night mantle
maybe that your are unable to dodge in his skill or something else I don't remember
when it comes to standards, do you guys pull on character or weapon banner?
cobalt apex
weapon after getting the chosen character
night mantle
lol I never pulled on standard character 
cobalt apex
blissful tulip
when it comes to standards, do you guys pull on character or weapon banner?
Weapon only
As standards can be obtained via 50/50 loss and all of them will likely be powercrept in 3-9 months
Due to Waves' combat system being more flat
night mantle
likely
keen jackal
my game so laggy on pc it cant load my history
ok nvm even tho it wasnt loading in game the debug file has it all
@night mantle
is this it
wait no
forest dome
wuwa flex lounge real
cobalt apex
u traded all ur luck for weapons
oak copper
what a combination
blissful tulip
Gonna be the 3rd game where I lose 90% of my 50/50s
Quite the early pities
cobalt apex
<:A_CryLaughTao:933705205931999292> what a combination
how'd u even get that
blissful tulip
Could someone currently in Waves check how many fragile resins you get for reaching level 50? I'd appreciate it
limber imp
How do I find my luck out anyways
neat robin
I have tpulse haran and the stupid sky claymore from my losses
I dont count winning weapon banner + getting a double after as a loss
oak copper
how'd u even get that <:A_CryLaughTao:933705205931999292>
silly reroll acc:
blissful tulip
I'd just like to know how much resin I'll have for levelling up the four I'm investing in
cobalt apex
one of the account of all time
limber imp
Guys btw for calcharo is he the equivalent of a claymore?
neat robin
Could someone currently in Waves check how many fragile resins you get for reach...
I could be wrong but I think none tbh
Lv60 had refills
neat robin
Guys btw for calcharo is he the equivalent of a claymore?
Yes
blissful tulip
Guys btw for calcharo is he the equivalent of a claymore?
Yes
blissful tulip
I could be wrong but I think none tbh
That is very heartbreaking
neat robin
I was checking the other day and remember being disappointed I saw no refills
limber imp
I’m planning a calcharo yinlin team who do I use for 3rd slot
neat robin
So if theres no ul45 pack it would have been ul50 I looked at
oak copper
That is very heartbreaking
level 50 box is 400 gold tuners
neat robin
I’m planning a calcharo yinlin team who do I use for 3rd slot
Verina
limber imp
How quickly can I reach union level 60
blissful tulip
level 50 box is 400 gold tuners
I'd have preferred resin to boost the level 80 boss farming imo, but 400 tuners is not bad either
cobalt apex
How quickly can I reach union level 60
2 months?
limber imp
Btw is it possible to get 15 pulls in 30 mins
blissful tulip
By paying, yes
oak copper
I'd have preferred resin to boost the level 80 boss farming imo, but 400 tuners ...
with how long it takes to get there you probably wanna pre-farm bosses from 47 on or so unless thee drops are just that much better at 50
blissful tulip
with how long it takes to get there you probably wanna pre-farm bosses from 47 o...
2/3 turns into 3/4
limber imp
By paying, yes
I still JS finished the second act btw
cobalt apex
2/3 turns into 3/4
wait its that much of an increase?
oak copper
2/3 turns into 3/4
thats quite the leap
cobalt apex
damn i thought it would go from 50% 3 to 100% 3
blissful tulip
I still JS finished the second act btw
Unfortunately I doubt 15 pulls in 30m is possible, in 2 hours I'd say so, though
limber imp
Oh alr ok
blissful tulip
thats quite the leap
Main reason as to why I'll continue farming Tacet fields until I'm one daily away from UL50
cobalt apex
prob the best idea
night mantle
damn top 1.87%
blissful tulip
Chixia may need some field time to generate her attack boosts first, as fully finalising her 30 bullet forte gives her 60% attack at S5
Takes a little longer in comparison to Havoc Rover's nukeswap
edgy cobalt
awhile back only to get lampylumens
regal oasis
I'm waiting for calcs on how much better it is compared to standard 5* + cons
about 10%
knotty fiber
Does anyone actually do coop
me sleeping w- I mean, begging everyone for flautists and vherons everyday belike
neat robin
I roll too many shit herons ive given up
I think I have almost 10 spectro% spectro herons
But less than 5 electro% vherons
Unless they’re fusion set, electro%
regal oasis
Do you guys now if there was any record of Buffs to wep off jinyan or yinlin? from beta to live?
knotty fiber
this is automatically garbage
sterile swallow
Liberation dmg bonus
knotty fiber
cuz my Yinlin lacks crate
edgy cobalt
liberation time
sterile swallow
edgy cobalt
there are people out there who'd think that is a good echo piece lmao
forest dome
i just use what i have cant live in the game
edgy cobalt
same
sterile swallow
Me too
edgy cobalt
no matter my echoes I'm just gonna be hard stuck at 18-21 stars until I move to UL50
or build more units
knotty fiber
it took me
sterile swallow
Likewise. I'm stuck at 22 stars until UL50
edgy cobalt
past 21 stars sounds like sig required
knotty fiber
can't live with this garbage crit rate
sterile swallow
Yeah I have Jiyan's sig only
edgy cobalt
did you 3* a 4th floor
forest dome
i barely touch electro units so like got 20 3 cost with lightning on set laying around
knotty fiber
did you 3* a 4th floor
10s short both sides
sterile swallow
did you 3* a 4th floor
2* both 4th floors
edgy cobalt
can't live with this garbage crit rate
me content with 40% crit rate
edgy cobalt
2* both 4th floors
ohh that makes sense
oak copper
10 tours of vheron
eventually everyone will give up on that shit and get their echoes from Tacet fields and people will ask themselves why they ever thought it was a much better system than Genshin artifacts 
sterile swallow
Wouldnt your Yinlin have 75% cr because of her passive thing?
forest dome
just waitin for my limited units
knotty fiber
eventually everyone will give up on that shit and get their echoes from Tacet fi...
getting from tacet field only is a bad idea
that's why ppl can't git gud
edgy cobalt
tacet fields is only UL60 motive tbh
sterile swallow
Praying for echo system revamp/tacet field reward buffs in 1.1 
edgy cobalt
get the traces first
knotty fiber
in 1.1
edgy cobalt
or talents
knotty fiber
there'll be DB 21
edgy cobalt
whatever you call them
knotty fiber
that's what in beta rn
oak copper
getting from tacet field only is a bad idea
if they properly buff them in 1.1 and people are eventually UL50 and UL60 I think its gonna normalize like that. When new echoes release there might be an initial phase of grinding but thats about it
knotty fiber
hopefully they won't change
knotty fiber
if they properly buff them in 1.1 and people are eventually UL50 and UL60 I thin...
then again
only cost 4 has significant difference
neat robin
My best electro set pieces
6 more to go
oak copper
there's no stupid new sets like Genshit
I think thats a rather naive thought
knotty fiber
please elaborate
sterile swallow
I don't have Yinlin or encore
oak copper
I think we will absolutely see new sets down the line
sterile swallow
edgy cobalt
might have to build encore or yolo with mdps yinlin
knotty fiber
I think the dps will care absolutely no shit about the new sets
if there are even new sets
they're mostly gonna make use of the echo skill
like Jué
just pack stuffs there
regal oasis
The purple echo drops at DB20 is dumb
i fells its almost fine with the 4 pitty but would be better if they just drop on the pitty
knotty fiber
no need for the new set hassle
sterile swallow
Is Jué a summon echo?
oak copper
I think the dps will care absolutely no shit about the new sets
They can always make them so good, be it only for specific units, that you will farm them. For this system to work long-term they also gotta make you farm new 1 and 3 cost echoes
sterile swallow
Hoping it's good on Jinhsi, I'll farm
knotty fiber
made for Jinhsi
sterile swallow
Ah like how dreamless was made for hrover?
knotty fiber
yeah
regal oasis
if we could like kill 3 wrong enemies and kill the right one 1 time and get everytime would make so we can get so many more 😭
edgy cobalt
echo sets catering to limited units will definitely be a trend for this game
knotty fiber
not specifically stating any of Jinhsi's moveset
but it requires lotta skill use
Spectro + skill spam
which only Jinhsi can do rn
knotty fiber
echo sets catering to limited units will definitely be a trend for this game
what I think is probably only gonna be for characters with extremely specific role
regal oasis
echo sets catering to limited units will definitely be a trend for this game
true cannot wait for whenever they make the fusion dreameless 
knotty fiber
cuz the echo sets we have in game rn are way too general
every dps/sub dps can use the set
ez 40% elemental dmg
100% uptime too
I think the main slot echo is the real issue
it works for different characters, which is like GI/HSR's artifact sets
sterile swallow
It's why moonlit is still useful, and the 4-cost 1-cost echoes can be shared among your subdps
But on someone like Yinlin she would just want the electro set because she deserves it and 100% uptime
Mortefi and Sanhua are sharing moonlit, ignoring the 3 cost echoes. My 3 cost echoes on Mortefi are terrible. All the luck went to Sanhua, already getting double Crit substats on the first three substats for her glacio dmg echoes
blissful tulip
eventually everyone will give up on that shit and get their echoes from Tacet fi...
The ironic thing is that I've been getting multiple on set 3 costs from Tacet fields 
No reason to even grind them for me
oak copper
The ironic thing is that I've been getting multiple on set 3 costs from Tacet fi...
I don't think just getting them from Taacet Fields will be that bad long-term
You are resource gated and have to do them anyway
regal oasis
at this reasson the only place that i feel getting reliable 1 cost on set atk% is tacet fields 💀
i did almost every 1 cost on overworld and on the end got like 1-2 on atk% fusion
fickle kernel
just wait for 1.1 to save us !
knotty fiber
I get like 5 cost 1 of every element I farm everyday
I've been grinding TF since like UL30 and often refilled for those too
Yet the amount of upgradable cost 3 I have got from it is nowhere near a corner of what I needed to farm
It takes averagely 8 copies of a piece for it to be usable for me
Imagine stalling in TF
jaunty eagle
I goofed. I picked the broadblade 5* selector...And didn't notice it didn't have a crit substat
Ah well, looks like it will be pretty good on Jinshi
blissful tulip
rotund drum
very geforce experience
kind turtle
yeah jinhsi definitely isnt that slow
people were crying about how slower her attacks were
but they're just fine
fickle kernel
hm
jinhsi not rly serving in that clip
maybe i shoulda just pulled jiyan at least he has viable teammates
rotund drum
yeah jinhsi definitely isnt that slow
putting aside the superfluous combo at the start to show off her animations she's onfield for 10 s lol
that's basically a field dps already
rotund drum
i think people were hoping she'd be a quickswap
shes more like a field dps with a single canned combo though
kusogames is already calling her a main dps too
fickle kernel
how is she not quickswap
edgy cobalt
18 pity 
fickle kernel
grats
edgy cobalt
already 70/70 and slightly dented my weapon exp stock so I should be chilling
when I get the standard broadblade for jiyan
fickle kernel
im out of money ToT
fickle kernel
i wnet broke as soon as i hit UL 40
edgy cobalt
I spammed creds in double sim training
only did char/weapon exp like once
I can def see it being a problem in UL50 but as of rn it ain’t a worry
rotund drum
sounds like whale problems tbh
you get a lot more credits for free than anything else that you would normally be using to level up things
so you need to be spending a lot of resin on other things to burn through them all
neat robin
I’m always broke too
rotund drum
where are you getting the xp tubes and shit needed to spend all those credits
neat robin
4 lv70 chars, 3 lv70 weapons
1 full +25 echo and 2 +20 sets of echos (and all the tune+fodder echos)
rotund drum
do you just level all your chars to 70
lament thorn
Twitter
rotund drum
i remember when some guy posted saying it looked like he was like 50% droprate on day 1
and everyone laughed and pulled
50% pull rate
and now we all have like s2+ fuccboi at lv1
neat robin
Nobody made him whale for s5 and then level him +skills to current max
rotund drum
if he had an eyepatch and beard and was voiced by tomokazu sugita people would have used him at least
but he's just super lame
kind turtle
meanwhile my only gacha 5*s are verina lmao
rotund drum
i dont see how thats possible unless you're just hoarding all your pulls
neat robin
s1 calcharo lingyang, s0 jiyan yinlin 😔
rotund drum
we should have gotten enough to hit pity on discount + standard banner already
kind turtle
so far i've pulled
Verina (beginner banner)
Encore (selector banner)
Encore (selector ticket)
Stringmaster
Verina (standard banner)
rotund drum
i think i spend 50 on rerolls, 40 on beginner banner and like 20-30 on weapon banner already
oh you mean verina dupes
rotund drum
too bad this is about to get crept
maybe they'll nerf jue and i wont need to worry about it
i guess on net its probably not that much worse than jue
it gives a dmg buff at least
kind turtle
oh sweet
winged belfry
Should I get 2 5 star standard swords?
Sanhua is going to need one
Havoc Rover another
kind turtle
if sanhua and havoc rover arent on the same team you can share
rotund drum
if you're asking about the selector box/targeted banner i would probably just save it
the crit gun seems to be the obvious second choice
kusogames doesnt seem as allergic to alts as midhoyo so we might get holy order chixia or ultimate armor mortefi or something in the future
and then you'll wish you had the crit guns for them
edgy cobalt
I’m only in a drought for tuners and echo exp tbh, everything else I’m stacked up
I still run +15 and +20s with no crit stats
edgy cobalt
Should I get 2 5 star standard swords?
you’ll prolly be fine if you give sanhua some support sword or something
winged belfry
Are there even any support swords in this game?
winged belfry
I don't have a single 4 star sword or gun or even rectifier
rotund drum
get them from lampylumenbay.com
edgy cobalt
scale slasher
I run commando of conviction which is like 2nd best according to prydwen lol
rotund drum
iirc the craftable gun and sword are atk
rectifier and fist you need to wait for a gacha one i think
but you can cope with the 3* crit ones if you're really desperate
edgy cobalt
4* weapon box in day 1 has jinzhou keeper which is your best bet if ur not going for bp or 5* standard/stringmaster
winged belfry
Are there is 3 star crits ones?
edgy cobalt
there are 3* weapons that give crit yeah
winged belfry
I don't think I have any of them
winged belfry
Well, such is consequence of not pulling
edgy cobalt
one of the fists does give cd
and heals the resonator so you could enable healing set when running jianxin
or yuanwu
or lingyang 💀
winged belfry
I've pulled just 50 on beginner and then 30 on standard weapon banner
lilac hare
I forgot I had the bp weapon damn
I didn’t choose yet
Is lunar cutter good for anyone? I think I have it r5
Will probably give it to sanhua
rotund drum
its better than r1 commando iirc
edgy cobalt
good for sanhua
cobalt apex
all the 4* options are just atk stat sticks tbf
opaque violet
Hello any weapon rankings for changli?
edgy cobalt
wanna bet sig > emerald > commando > everything else
night mantle
yeah game seems to be working good on my mobile
edgy cobalt
good for the mobile players if it actually pops off, I only go on phone to do dailies meanwhile
edgy cobalt
I mightve mention this before but I like how iphone 13 is the rec spec phone to play the game and I have the 13
but I have to run it on low settings so that it won’t lag and overheat
edgy cobalt
think that also applies to me on my laptop
whichever is closest to the center of the screen gets targeted first
night mantle
Anyone keep getting target switch into farthest enemy instead of nearest on mobi...
try turning off combat settings....it might help
outer jetty
Alright.
blissful tulip
yeah game seems to be working good on my mobile
I'm definitely seeing an improvement, which is great
But all of the longer stutters have been replaced with microstutters instead, feels better than before
night mantle
yeah, the game just need time to improve its quality
technical errors will only be fixed with time, although can't say the same for translation errors 
rigid shore
https://x.com/WutheringMedia/status/1802099611584143487
did it happen
rigid shore
But all of the longer stutters have been replaced with microstutters instead, fe...
pc when
blissful tulip
did it happen
Yes, but not by much
blissful tulip
My main concerns have been stutters and the game taking around 2 minutes to log in (file integrity+shader compilation)
They have addressed them though, still a long way to go
wheat moon
ripe pollen
lets gooooooooooo
outer jetty
outer jetty
You guys just +25 every echoes or roll +15 1st and see if there is any Crit?
knotty fiber
+10
1 usable -> roll
if 3rd roll is usable, continue
if 4th roll is not what I want, skip
want and usable is different btw
outer jetty
I use +15 as benchmark. Any crit I just use it
rigid shore
if not double crit when i +15 not worth
rotund drum
for 1-costs you may as well just do +5
knotty fiber
if not double crit when i +15 not worth
sure
rotund drum
since you'll have a million of them anyway
knotty fiber
sometimes patience is happiness
I don't have too high standard for incomplete piece
but for complete piece then yes
cobalt apex
damn ur luck really made a comeback
cobalt apex
knotty fiber
my luck in the past 2 weeks still trash
only lucky on my friend's
it flies wayyyy too much
I missed a lot of my Yl's ult
this ping is amazing
I dodged but still took dmg
cobalt apex
🔥
knotty fiber
knotty fiber
I cleared both
I think you asked me this like twice or smth
both floors 10~15s short
cobalt apex
jiyan moment
knotty fiber
do you wanna see me malding
I can stream for a bit
before I force shutdown my PC due to rage
knotty fiber
u can try lvl 100 monkey instead
aero resist
cobalt apex
oh yea i forgot
knotty fiber
Jiyan is just too strong lol
cobalt apex
knotty fiber
ok ykw
edgy cobalt
I think you asked me this like twice or smth
I keep seeing your screenshots and I clearly see you raging lol
cobalt apex
monkey attacks are easy yea
edgy cobalt
lvl100 and aero res is the only problem
just
really tanky
unless you have a stringmaster encore tbh
cobalt apex
hp punching bag
edgy cobalt
should be ok then if goated investments
knotty fiber
not my most perfect run
but definitely more manageable than the fucking bird
even tho it's more tanky
cuz lv100
opal venture
Yeah monkey is easy even in hologram
Once we close the level gap it will be another big creep
opal venture
it's weird that Yinlin's EHA doesn't have interruption resist
U suppose to swap cancel the animation
It takes forever for her to sit down
knotty fiber
cobalt apex
knotty fiber
Thing is
The moment I EHA her
She got slapped
Before I could even swap
Also
I knew that I could swap cancel it but I kept forgetting
opal venture
Understandable
knotty fiber
let's see
I'm at 71.3% crate now
I have 12% left from weapon and trace
should be the sweet point
knotty fiber
only started building her last week
cuz I didn't plan on breaking my pity on her
I need to fix like everything except the cost 4
especially this
opal venture
Yeah i think with more ER she should be alright
knotty fiber
tbh
it's actually alright at 0% ER
her energy gain is not that bad
of course I want some, like ideally 20%
but if I can't get any then 
I spent all my luck on my friend's Yinlin also
opal venture
Yeah getting 2 sub ER is enough for her to burst almost all rot
limber imp
I still didn’t get her😔
knotty fiber
at first I thought she was a mommy type
so I didn't like her
but instead she turned out quite cute to me
so I snapped
cobalt apex
ebon jasper
Chixia calcs for changli when
knotty fiber
friend's Yinlin
ebon jasper
Static mist feels so bad on mortefi
Cadenza all the way
knotty fiber
but dmg bonus not found
cobalt apex
enough crit can do anything
opal venture
Nah cost 3 electro is still better
knotty fiber
tbh
I'm starting to think
with that garbage luck on cost 3, I might as well go 44111 on mine
cuz I'm having way too much dmg bonus too
cobalt apex
sadge
night mantle
should i even continue rolling this
you should have stopped at flat atk
upper flare
you should have stopped at flat atk
its that bad?
i thought you could only get like two or 3 good ones
like crit rate crit damage and unit specific stuff
opal venture
its that bad?
Its like playing poker, the more bad cards unfolded at first, the lower chance you get to acquire better ones
upper flare
true i suppose
upper flare
unfortunate
cobalt apex
flat atk is a usable sub
outer jetty
15 to 25 is 2.6x required EXP from 0 to 15
cobalt apex
but 1/3 usable sub is meh
outer jetty
knotty fiber
i thought you could only get like two or 3 good ones
crit rate, crit dmg, energy regen, atk%, any dmg% that you need (skill and ult for Yinlin)
cobalt apex
and for split dmg% chars it would be cr, cd, er, atk%, flat atk
rigid shore
how do i start these?
cobalt apex
quest at the pioneer thingy
cobalt apex
yes
cobalt apex
sadge
upper flare
so i am farming dreamless echo
and i keep getting 4 stars
is it cause i am doing the weakest possible settings?
or is my luck just bad
blissful tulip
Luck, weakest Dreamless does not affect drop rate
dense elbow
whats the talent priority for havoc rover
liberation => forte > skill >> intro = basic
imo
small bronze
isnt the pioneer quest weird asf
u can just put random stuff
and it still gives you the primos
like wrong flower wrong this wrong this
blissful tulip
Don't think the quest cares
edgy cobalt
maybe they’ll show you what you cooked up at the end for their event based on what you’ve given to them
can’t confirm though, I’m a pro at skipping story
upper flare
liberation => forte > skill >> intro = basic
aight, also what echo do i farm for calch
dense elbow
aight, also what echo do i farm for calch
for a main echo either flautist or tempest mephis on electro set or mech abom on lingering
actually i should probably pin the guide i wrote specifically for this lmao
cobalt apex
u wrote one? 👀
dense elbow
recommended echoes per sonata set yeah
Hey everyone, been working on some guides to help newer players recently, hopefully will be able to add more soon but will update this list as I finish them. If I forgor, they can also be found on my carrd .
Recommended Echoes for All Sonata Effects
Beginners Combat Guide