・wuwa-lounge

[floral bone]

ye its good

[jaunty eagle]

Calcherro I expect to fall off has heavy as Diluc. Jiyan will most likely retain a fair bit of dominance due to his ability to turn fodder-heavy rooms into an idling game

[hollow gorge]

yeah, I thought along those lines too

[jaunty eagle]

Probably will be a bit like venti; either a ToA will be easy as hell due to Jiyan, or he'll be dog in it

[rotund drum]

people dont really wanna fodder their bad 5* rolls atm because we still have chars that can use a +20 or +25 even if it has bad subs

but once we hit endgame there'll be nothing to do with them

so the gate becomes tuners instead of xp tubes

[hollow gorge]

but first 3 floors will soon be easy anyway (they are already easy tbh). So, basically only 4th floor and Hazard Tower are of any import, and those unlikely to have mob scenarios

[rotund drum]

hence tuneblast

you're mostly just blasting for tuners

[jaunty eagle]

That is true

[hollow gorge]

that's why I am personally just getting whatever functional teams I can for now to get max possible stars and my priority is to collect all 5* types of weapons each (preferably CR main stat), or a boss-killing specialist and his weapon, if that one would be leaked any time soon

[kind turtle]

Wuthering Exploration event
aka:
800 Primos
2x 3-cost selector
100 Gold tuners (10 substats)
30 Gold Echo XP mats (1x +25, ~2x +20, 3x +15, 9 +10, 34 +5)

[hollow gorge]

Honestly, if Wuwa wanted a valuable resource that would have a chance to compete with Astrites in value, they should have just made tuners to be needed for sub rerolls, not initial rolls

That's what I want in Genshin too, since Hoyo can't add more primogem sources, and so they can't add much new content with valuable prizes beyond what we have already

and artifact sub rerolls would be decently valuable IMO, that ppl would do content without primos but with sub rerolls

[edgy cobalt]

wuthering waves is just timegate waves tbh

[hollow gorge]

timegate times

[storm ledge]

||average gacha game pov||

[kind turtle]

comparison on experience material power in WW vs GI

[neat robin]

Idc about any of those, I just need echo exp desperately

That might change when we start needing more char/weapon xp to get into the lv80+ range but for now

[blissful tulip]

Quite good for an event

[edgy cobalt]

I’m fine with my echoes tbh

just let me hit UL50 sooner

[neat robin]

I will not be fine with my echos as long as my (atk scaling) dps have +300 def 😭

I just need a couple more 1cost that roll cr and er/cdmg by +15 rn

[edgy cobalt]

I mean hey, you got some god rolls and I’m jealous ofc

but like regardless we’re only gonna be stuck on 21-24 stars this reset and its easily attainable to hit that with shit echoes

unless you whale

[neat robin]

Me on 17*

I need these electro pieces and ones that actually roll not double-def, asap

[knotty fiber]

I might be able to hit 24* before reset

no whalin

[keen jackal]

idk what to do

do i go for stringmaster or ages

im at 46 or 47 pity rn

[knotty fiber]

go for it

[keen jackal]

which one

[knotty fiber]

String

What's ages again

[keen jackal]

jinhsi weap

ages of harvest

i might be able to get both honestly

unless i lose 50 50 on jinhsi

[sterile swallow]

I'm going for both Jinhsi and her sig. She deserves the best

You think they will buff her in beta?

[edgy cobalt]

whats ur second team again?

[keen jackal]

does she even need the buff

[knotty fiber]

ah

go both

[sterile swallow]

I guess her kit is fine?

[knotty fiber]

I think they'll buff both Changli and Jinhsi

but Changli needs buff more

Jinhsi, on paper she's quite broken

[sterile swallow]

Heard she doesn't have a dedicated team/support yet. So she's awkward?

[knotty fiber]

but who knows
I haven't seen the actual gameplay yet

neither does Jinhsi nor Changli have a dedicated teammate

[sterile swallow]

But as a main DPS option she will do just fine

[knotty fiber]

holy fk

something happened to my WuWa

it shouldn't be me

gotta check rq

yea

definitely the game

HSR is fine

WuWa is not

given that I'm playing SEA from NA, but normally it should only be 240ms

now it's spiking to 400ms~999ms

[neat robin]

Cal yinlin verina. Need 2 sets of electro echos

The stupid shielder on 3rd floor is causing me issues. They all ungroup and get shielded and I cant hunt them down 1 at a time within limit

[knotty fiber]

holy fucking shit it's unplayable

[oak copper]

barely anyone has tbh. Jiyan is the only DPS that really leans into a single damage type. Most others have fairly mixed dmg profiles and only end up using the Support that buffs the largest contributor. Cal has Yinlin but thats only even working if you dont try to QS with them.

Just going off the kit Jinhsi leans into skill damage and I guess the question is if its worth to run her with Taoqi or if you just run whatever has the most personal damage and forego Amplifies for the most part.

[sterile swallow]

My Lv1 Taoqi is definitely not joining Jinhsi's team

[knotty fiber]

yes, I won't even consider Taoqi

Jiyan actually does have his skill dealing dmg but it's not spread out like other units

pretty heavy-focused

[sterile swallow]

I guess I'm stuck with Sanhua and either Verina/spectro rover then. It can work if they give us s6 spectro rover in 1.1

[knotty fiber]

for Jinhsi and Changli they both have considerable ult dmg

but mostly skill

and the current skill dmg buffer isn't that good

HRover and Danjin work pretty well tgt so I consider Danjin "HRover's dedicated unit"

[oak copper]

his skill does damage, but the vast majority is still Heavy Attack damage. Ofc also helps that Mortefi is just a good unit in general, so there isn't anything to feel bad about getting Jiyan his Buffs

[edgy cobalt]

I run the usual jiyan team on that and I clear in 90 seconds so you should be able to clutch it way easily than I can

[knotty fiber]

stupid gameeeeeeeee

[oak copper]

I certainly haven't heard anything good about Taoqi but these things can sometimes be reinforced by a lack of use, since rn we don't have anyone with enough skill damage to warrant bringing her for her amplify, gotta see if Jinhsi changes that sentiment a bit or if she is just too meh

[neat robin]

Hm sure I’ll try later then. I wanted to use the two teams on each tower seperately though

[edgy cobalt]

have calcharo team clear floors 1 and 2 on both towers, jiyan clear floor 3 on both towers

it’ll be 6 energy used for both teams so you can enter floor 4 normally for each team, its literally what I did 2 weeks ago and people were wondering damn how you get that far (jiyan mains unite)

3* broadblade sweep

you can definitely go for 21 stars easily

[neat robin]

I think I had 16* first time

I’ll redo tower later tonight

I think ive also finished all calamity bosses at d4 except aix
I dont quite have enough dmg for d5 for the time limit

[fickle kernel]

will we be using taoqi with jinhsi

[dense elbow]

she has insane buffs in the roguelike mode?

[edgy cobalt]

was gonna say that d5 aix is easy but I forgot you play on mobile

[oak copper]

barely played that yet

[kind turtle]

i'm waiting until 50 for d5 just because i can't be bothered to do them again

[fickle kernel]

jinhsi mortefi taoqi believer

[dense elbow]

as awful as she is everywhere else

[kind turtle]

if it doesnt give unionXP i dont care

[dense elbow]

shes the comfiest and fastest runs i have in the roguelike lol

[fickle kernel]

wait i dont even have taoqi

doomd...

[dense elbow]

not sure how much i like this idea as she wants a lot out intro outro procs

so i dont expect her to make much use of amplify effects nor get large amounts of mortefi procs

well more accurately she wants to swap quite a bit between chars that can deal a lot of different damage types for incandescence

[fickle kernel]

mortefi just to deal dmg from off field

[dense elbow]

but she gets free outro skills with Unison as well so shes not gonna be sitting onfield a shit ton of the time

she'll come in and out

[fickle kernel]

for incan

[dense elbow]

but you want to ideally swap to another char that can do that stuff anyways

and his dmg contribution isnt gonna be significantly high with the constant swapping

[oak copper]

sounds like you want Yinlin for her

[dense elbow]

yinlin is who id put 2nd slot for now personally

imo she just really doesnt have many good teammates to use

[fickle kernel]

yeah but every team wants yinlin

shes allw e have

[dense elbow]

welcome to what we call: an extreme lack of options!!

[fickle kernel]

so in the mean time i jsut run mortefi or bella hadid

[dense elbow]

this is pretty much always gonna be active too

incentivising fast swapping and quick ability use even more

[fickle kernel]

probably bella hadid cuz i already built her

and mortefi level 1

also do we want to use like

off-element echoes on the 2 other chars

[dense elbow]

why "off elements"?

[fickle kernel]

for stacks

[dense elbow]

may help but ideally you always want a rejuv + bellborne on pretty much all teams

so that covers glacio

[fickle kernel]

ya

[dense elbow]

meaning lmao baizhi

and heron is havoc if you make use of clouds

so lmao taoqi

[fickle kernel]

ya baizhi is out and so is verina

so um...

[dense elbow]

tbh

verina buffs are so long and so potent

youd just use her anyways imo

but echo skills are too long that they wont make a massive difference

[fickle kernel]

girl calchuro needs verina he already suffering

[dense elbow]

altho missing out on a 3rd element stacks hurts

[fickle kernel]

cant we just do bell yangyang

and reset if we get hit

[dense elbow]

you arent using verina for her healing

15% All Type DMG Amplify for all teammates for 30s

[fickle kernel]

im using verina healing on my calchuro bieve me...

[dense elbow]

and 20% ATK

[dense elbow]

im not saying its not useful lmao

but its not the main reason shes there

[fickle kernel]

my calchuro is skill gapped

by the pilot

[dense elbow]

😭

[fickle kernel]

omfg

sanhua glacio too

[dense elbow]

mhm very good char to just

swap in and gtfo quickly

coz her concerto charges so fast

[fickle kernel]

yeah i think shes prob my pick for now

[dense elbow]

hold swap cancel on heron may be useful coz it hits multiple times lmao

[fickle kernel]

heron sanhua and bell yangyang

thats the best i can do for now i guess

[dense elbow]

just depends in the end if using a different buffer is better coz yangyang kinda providing jackshit on her own 😭

[fickle kernel]

yeah but im out of options

i dont have jianxin or pink boob

[dense elbow]

good energy outro if sanhua didnt make so much energy lmao

[dense elbow]

tbh thats just a jinhsi issue in general

[fickle kernel]

1.2 will save her

[dense elbow]

surely

camellya is a full on DPS so youre praying for scar to give her something

[fickle kernel]

is camellya 1.2?

[dense elbow]

supposedly its scar and camellya

[fickle kernel]

wtf am i pull jinhsi for then

goodbye loser

[dense elbow]

new element dps vs yet more havoc coz we have havoc mc?

[fickle kernel]

shes havoc

wtf why

[dense elbow]

this is going based on the kit she had left over in cbt2

so stuff couldve changed

[fickle kernel]

hope so

but ya ill still pull jinhsi just to be entertained by something i guess

camellya being dps is sad though

[dense elbow]

i like the idea jinhsi has going on

[dense elbow]

yeah i rly want her but

i already have encore and havoc mc as my main teams

and the current tower has primarily fusion and havoc enemies

and holy fuck their resistances makes me puke

[fickle kernel]

unless they rework her to have synergy with rover

thatd be cvnt

[dense elbow]

a QS oriented char would be nice

[fickle kernel]

is there data for their weapon types?

also if scar is must-pull tier im gonna be sad

hate him

[dense elbow]

no info on scar at all so not sure where the 1.2 = scar stuff is from

believe camellya was sword?

[fickle kernel]

everyone sword

[dense elbow]

unfortunately her outro skill wasnt implemented at all

so no clue if she has the same one as changli/yinlin or smth else

tbh id expect her to have havoc + liberation if they wanted rover synergy

it just makes too much sense

[fickle kernel]

dream come true

[dense elbow]

bye danjin

[kind turtle]

i guess i can live with pulling two swords

[fickle kernel]

yeah i feel like i should just pull a 2nd sword

atp

[dense elbow]

you going for changli?

[kind turtle]

nah, camellya

[dense elbow]

ah thought u meant it as both of them

[kind turtle]

oh no, weapons

[dense elbow]

ahhh fairs

[kind turtle]

lvl45 sword + camellya sig

[fickle kernel]

but there are decent 4* swords

unlike claymores

so idk

[kind turtle]

my only claymore is taoqi

actually

idr if i have her

[dense elbow]

mfw the 2 4 star claymores i have are the def one and the energy one

[fickle kernel]

the def one is criminal

like why

why rate up the bell on the first weapon banner

[dense elbow]

i love how they made a specific def claymore and gauntlet for 2 units coz theres no sources of their stats generally

yet both units are kinda ass

[fickle kernel]

whos the gauntlet unit...

[dense elbow]

yuanwu lol

hes like

[fickle kernel]

oh

[dense elbow]

pure def scaling

[fickle kernel]

never clicked him didnt know hes gauntlet

[dense elbow]

too bad gauntlets get an amazing 3 star originite weapon

cdmg substat and healing upon basic attack

quickest free rejuv proc ever

[oak copper]

the DEF one being on Jiyan's weapon banner was trolling. Its also smh the only gacha 4* you can just find in the game for some reason.

[dense elbow]

real 😭

pretty sure both def% weapons were in the box they gave out at launch too

[oak copper]

I still have the box, only def broadblade, fist is the liberation dmg one

[dense elbow]

ahh i thought it was the fist but not the claymore

[cobalt apex]

only dauntless yea

[dense elbow]

why so many sources for this fkn def claymore

[cobalt apex]

i actually have 2 dauntless evernight

why are broadsword options so bad

[neat robin]

I have like a r4 def claymore cuz its dumb

[dense elbow]

selling jiyan his sig early

[neat robin]

I put it on taoqi even though I’m not using her

[oak copper]

I have "only" 2 Def Broadblades but instead I got punished with 4 of the HP/Healing Rectifiers

[neat robin]

Then I have 3 or 4 different atk% swords

[dense elbow]

i havent grabbed the one in the overworld yet

so thatd be my 2nd

😔

[cobalt apex]

swords are great yea

so many options

even the 5* standard is great

[neat robin]

Yeah got that one for hrover

[oak copper]

standard 5* sword getting to have crit for some reason

[cobalt apex]

and the broad got atk%

[oak copper]

idk why its so inconsistent

same with BP

some have crit, some dont

[cobalt apex]

which BP ones got crit?

btw

[neat robin]

Bp broad & guantlets are crit I think

[oak copper]

Broad, Fist and Rectifier

[neat robin]

Mm then 5* sword and pistol

[cobalt apex]

those are the ones that didnt got crit in 5* standard

[oak copper]

weird to match them up like that

[neat robin]

At least 1 of each type has crit

[cobalt apex]

unfortunately i dont buy BP so im just screwed for broad

[neat robin]

Could have done like 2 crit swords and zero crit rectifiers or som

[oak copper]

I guess it shouldnt be too bad given we dont have any mad ATK steroids in the game, yet, so ATK% shouldnt be too much worse than Crit. Still a bit of a feels bad case anyway

but generally not a fan of just how much better 5* weapons are rn, partially also just because 4* passives are rather disappointing

[cobalt apex]

they shouldve done the other weapons like sword

commando is only 20% worse than emerald of genesis right?

and also its mostly sigs being too strong for the characters

[oak copper]

I guess given we're still mostly looking at R1 wepaons either way thats actually fair, but, yeah, Sigs in particular start out very strong

[rotund drum]

guess ill prefarm jinhsi since nocontent

[cobalt apex]

sigs shouldnt be like 40% better than the current R1 gacha 4* that we have

[sterile swallow]

I want to prefarm for her, but there's so many people who need upgrades/talent levels/echo levels

[cobalt apex]

and like 50% better than f2p option

[kind turtle]

currently based on my drop data, it costs 17 runs worth of talent domains to get a character+wep to lvl70 and all talents, or 680 resin/68 hours

[cobalt apex]

all lvl 6?

[kind turtle]

yeah, including subtraces

[cobalt apex]

not too bad for now

[fickle kernel]

why is my wuwa acting like powerpoint again

what happened

[timid sierra]

the six slides per second moment?

[fickle kernel]

yes

genshin fine league fine wuwa shit

[timid sierra]

yep i have the same experience

except its genshin fine, valorant fine, wuwa sussy

[fickle kernel]

it was fine past like 2 weeks

[rigid shore]

unoptimized bs

[edgy cobalt]

you can run league on a potato
you can run genshin on a potato+
you can run wuwa on nasa's pleaides supercomputer

[rigid shore]

wait wat

[outer jetty]

100k ish exp from UL 40 to UL50

That does take a month isnt it

[barren drift]

2k dallies, 1.8k waveplate

[rotund drum]

is it over for the ULSIMPs

[barren drift]

some guy had 49? in the official server?

idk if its real tho..

[edgy cobalt]

correct

[barren drift]

does fobmaster max refresh everyday

[rotund drum]

kusogames probably boosted his level for him so the other whales would see it and spend resin to catch up

[rigid shore]

the fuck is this?

[edgy cobalt]

ik one guy max refreshing and he's UL48

[rigid shore]

wat do you want me to do

[edgy cobalt]

go there ig

[rigid shore]

i did

[edgy cobalt]

and then complain to the devs that the instructions for the event aren't clear

so that we get free 10 pull again

even idk what you gotta do there lmao

[rigid shore]

huhh

WHAT DO YOU MEAN GAME

[outer jetty]

echoes exp event

[edgy cobalt]

survey tasks

[rigid shore]

give me 20 pulls

[cobalt apex]

nice event instructions

[edgy cobalt]

do you just survey the area or

lmao

[rigid shore]

is someone supposed to give us a survey

[cobalt apex]

no idea

[outer jetty]

No proceed button or quest mark?

[cobalt apex]

give us another 20 pulls im close to pity

what are we supposed to do in the event

[outer jetty]

Maybe go to Pioneer Ass HQ

[rigid shore]

i did

talked about stuff

[outer jetty]

[rigid shore]

maybe that was the survey

and i skipped it

so it didnt count?

bricked

[cobalt apex]

bricked account rip 5 pulls

[clear tartan]

I talked to Ganxue and she gave me tea leaves

Certainly an event of all time

[rigid shore]

actual balls

i keep getting 3s are you sure its possible to get a 2? @blissful tulip

not that i dont like it

its just

im gonna have some left over boss drops later

[cobalt apex]

its 50/50 afaik

[rigid shore]

no way

i keep winning then

[cobalt apex]

unless ur UL 50 ofc

[rigid shore]

i dont believe it

im 40

[cobalt apex]

keep winning is normal

same with keep losing

[rigid shore]

any moment now

[cobalt apex]

ive only had 1 3 drops

[rigid shore]

ive gotten 3 like 6 times in a row now

[rotund drum]

hopefully they add more ULs later

genshit and star fail being capped is ass

[rigid shore]

AINTNOWAY

but my infinite money glitch

[cobalt apex]

im going to want that free shell credit

[edgy cobalt]

I have like 25m credits in hsr rofl

[weary acorn]

U don't even go down the money drain cuz of events

Funny prediction

10 free limited on stream
Or
My actual cope is another weapon selector

[rotund drum]

has anyone ever actually beaten dreamless legit or are people just farming his babby version

mf just teleports everywhere

i need to prefarm his drop though

[weary acorn]

The weekly?

[rotund drum]

yeah

[weary acorn]

It's easy

U need actual echoes to trivialize it tho

[rotund drum]

the babby version is easy enough

[blissful tulip]

I have, mainly for the quality of weekly drops

Assuming they scale with level like they do in Genshin

[weary acorn]

The weekly is just camera being shit

So far aside from scar both weeklies have shit angles

I have not farmed scar cuz u don't have a reason to

@blissful tulip do I have to like reset load dreamless or does it spawn again when ur still in the domain?

[rotund drum]

encore uses his mat iirc

scar is fine until he gets you with his command grab

[blissful tulip]

Reset load

[rotund drum]

then you're just watching him do anime stuff for like 30 minutes

[weary acorn]

That's so bad

[rotund drum]

its faster than afking the other bosses

[weary acorn]

That shit slow as fuck

[rotund drum]

its the elden ring move

he just winds up for like 5 seconds and you dodge

and he's like haha i delayed it

[blissful tulip]

The weeklies themselves don't have much hp at all

Even at higher levels

[edgy cobalt]

you gotta be really bad at the game to not beat dreamless at your union level

[opal venture]

I don’t even know any weekly movesets they just die too quick

[rigid shore]

Its supposed to look like this apparently

[blissful tulip]

At least the events are plentiful, especially for 1.0

[neat robin]

I’m trying mephis calamity

And like,, why is he duplicating himself 😭

I cant keep track of this teleporting pos already with my camera flopping back and forth
How do I track when theres 2 of him

[ebon jasper]

Just parry main one and clone disappear

And pray clone dont laser outside your camera

[cobalt apex]

average mephis fight

[ebon jasper]

Aside that mephis just parry galore

I find mephis aix easy cause monke and heron stall my time. Not enough dps

Mephis aix both aggressive
No dps lost

[rigid shore]

ayo

https://tenor.com/view/sulyvahn-dark-souls3-pontiff-sulyvahn-one-shot-oneshot-kill-gif-24798518

[neat robin]

Yea this keeps happening
One lasers and one does the string oneshot

[opal venture]

You can try turning off all camera auto reset settings, then all camera sensitivity at low. You will need to manuver view by mouse but no more crappy zooming

[blissful tulip]

Likely won't do Mephis until UL50, hate its inconsistent moveset

[neat robin]

Yeah cant do that… I’m on mobile

If I dont have camera locked on mephis the sensitivity is literally so shit I have to swipe across my whole screen to try and track it manually. At 100 sens…

[opal venture]

[neat robin]

I hate that I cant even beat d4

[cobalt apex]

[neat robin]

I just spent almost 2 hrs trying to kill mephis

Maybe I should cook food

[cobalt apex]

i forgot food exist

lmao

[neat robin]

I’m disappointed with myself vs these bosses. I have the damage but I cant get dodges properly

I’m on d5 heron and gorilla

But mephis and aix crazy movements are not fun to time on mobile

[cobalt apex]

i cant even beat d5 heron cause havoc chars built

[blissful tulip]

Crownless in 1.1 won't do havoc enjoyers many favours

[barren drift]

yo

is data bank 21 gated by ul 50?

[cobalt apex]

fortunately ive never used crownless in my life

[cobalt apex]

i believe we dont know about that yet

but it makes sense imo

[edgy cobalt]

I’m very sure it is

[cobalt apex]

yea since by then a good amount of people would also be UL 50

[burnt shoal]

im not even ul 40

[barren drift]

man

[barren drift]

this turtle is actually cracked

[storm ledge]

imagine having enough echo exp to lvl 1cost echoes

[barren drift]

i actl have plenty

i mean

enough

i just need the damn tuners

[storm ledge]

I'm not investing in my current chars anymore and instead save my echo stuff for Changli

[cobalt apex]

ill prob be saving too when i finish building calcharo

no need for hypermaxed builds rn

[barren drift]

rip localization

[storm ledge]

yea

[storm ledge]

I'm saving instead of properly building my calcharo

[cobalt apex]

i need something that actually works

[barren drift]

skill levels are still carrying

[cobalt apex]

i still want to build rn since changli seems to be coming out in 2nd phase (?)

[storm ledge]

yeah

[cobalt apex]

so thats still more than a month left

surely ill save enough xp and tuners for her

[storm ledge]

non thunder set

[cobalt apex]

atk set isnt bad

[storm ledge]

[cobalt apex]

and ive had enough with farming vheron + flautist

[analog cliff]

the goat

[cobalt apex]

took 5d to get 1 piece for yinlin

[storm ledge]

almost pulled yinlin but luckily changli gameplay came out soon enough to give me a reason to skip

[cobalt apex]

even tho it took me 123 pulls to get yinlin (fuck my luck) if i 100% the world + 1.1 it should give me enough to guarantee her + sig

at least ive coped to believe so

[analog cliff]

people already on ar 45 wild

[storm ledge]

idk yet if I should pull her sig or her dupes cuz 5* standard sword is goodge

[cobalt apex]

tho now that i thought back (after 100% half the map only got me 4k astrites) it might not be enough

[cobalt apex]

im still kinda conflicted on the sig

since yes ill get the standard sword

but i also play danjin + hrover both want sword

and calcharo also wants the broad since the f2p options are omega scuff

[storm ledge]

I'll wait for how much of an upgrade sig is compared to dupes

[cobalt apex]

or i can just get 2 standard swords and ditch calcharo

[storm ledge]

I don't have encore so don't know yet what team I'll use

[cobalt apex]

same

ill just wait til 1.1 release ig

then decide who to build for her

[storm ledge]

probably my best option would be to use changli as sub dps and build my c3 chixia but I don't wanna

[cobalt apex]

best option would be losing to encore lmao

[storm ledge]

💀

[blissful tulip]

Some are already at AR47/48, I refreshed 1-2 times daily

Rather than the full 6

Think I may have went a little overboard with the CR

[cobalt apex]

cr higher than cd

[storm ledge]

we love seeing crits

[analog cliff]

92:83 ratio is absurd

how did you even do that

[barren drift]

weapon and every sub has cr

[blissful tulip]

The echo system most of the better substats went to CR rather than CDMG

As well as the 5* weapon and 4 cost also having CR substat and CR mainstat

I could go farm for a competent CDMG Rider, but Calcharo and Yinlin need help

They are doing much worse in comparison to Rover and Chixia

[barren drift]

hmmge

u lose around 22% if u get a cr sub on a cdmg

it would look like 70 220

[blissful tulip]

Not sure if that will end up better overall for Chixia, especially with her ult being a nuke

I'll just stick with this for now until I get a better build for the electro duo

[barren drift]

i thought her ult is crit guarantee?

or her skill

[blissful tulip]

Her final shot of skill at S1 is guaranteed crit

Everything else depends on the usual

[barren drift]

oh

[blissful tulip]

My problem right now is that she can't really run 5pc Fusion as I have two incredible atk echoes

[barren drift]

me rn is i dont want to run 5 pc aero

ugh i hope camellya comes soon..

[storm ledge]

54 days maybe

[vapid river]

three 5* flautists for today

and they're all wrong set

this game is dogshit

[cobalt apex]

flautist is truly the echo of all time

[blissful tulip]

Wait until you have to farm the atk sonata 3 cost echoes

[vapid river]

i just want more than 15

[vapid river]

????

[blissful tulip]

Only two of them as well

[cobalt apex]

bricked sets

[vapid river]

do you mean lingering tunes?

the one that has 3 options?

[blissful tulip]

I completely forgot about the bear, mb

[vapid river]

including flautists

[cobalt apex]

flautist is so shit tho

why only 20 of them exist

like what

[vapid river]

yeah but it's one of two 3 cost electro echoes

i wish they had more than 12

[storm ledge]

just use selectors

[vapid river]

i need to add people on NA

and steal from them

[cobalt apex]

need roll luck aswell

[vapid river]

idec about roll luck atp

[storm ledge]

flat def
flat hp
hp%
def%
flat atk

[vapid river]

tbf

[cobalt apex]

hey flat atk is goodge!

[vapid river]

like woo

ig

these are on yinlin

[storm ledge]

2nd one is really nice

[vapid river]

yeah the bird isn't soo bad

but cal has 2 atk% 3 cost

[cobalt apex]

flautist got 2 subs

[vapid river]

that's why i said idec about subs

i do need more cdmg

been thinking about getting rid of cr 4 cost

[cobalt apex]

1:1 ratio

[vapid river]

cuz her wep gives so much already

i think every echo has hp

if only i could drop that

for more cdmg

[blissful tulip]

More atk wouldn't hurt either

[vapid river]

ye

more atk would be nice

[cobalt apex]

yea

flat atk is actually goodge in this game nowaying

not bad at least

[vapid river]

unless you get low roll

[storm ledge]

flat atk drops off the higher level we get

[cobalt apex]

stocked did a calc with encore stringmaster lvl 90 and flat atk is ~65% of atk% iirc?

[vapid river]

idk about that >.>

[cobalt apex]

so its like 80% for us rn

[vapid river]

ye

jiyan at level 90 has 438 base atk

you can still roll like 10% of his atk

with flat atk

[cobalt apex]

assuming no weapon

[vapid river]

does atk% include wep atk?

[cobalt apex]

yes

[vapid river]

if it does then yeah flat atk will be shit

oh

then yeah

nvm

[cobalt apex]

base atk is char + weapon

[vapid river]

flat atk will be dog shit

[cobalt apex]

still 60% of atk% at high investment

better than most dmg% on a char

[ebon jasper]

Cadenza >>> static mist for mortef?

is the damage diff huge to justify static mist over concerto gen?

[vapid river]

idek what static mist is

is it a 3*?

[ebon jasper]

std 5* gun

[cobalt apex]

5*

[vapid river]

oh

i mean

5* gun is always going to be the best

but if you're just running mort

with jiyan

the er gun works just fine

[ebon jasper]

concerto gen on cadenza tho
more time with jiyan

[cobalt apex]

gotta ask someone whos actually playing jiyan

[vapid river]

i am playing jiyan though

i just haven't had any real er issues

with mort

[cobalt apex]

its concerto most of the time

not resonance energy

[vapid river]

^

true

his ult is up, which i don't really even need

it's concerto to outro

after using heron

[blissful tulip]

Does Mort's lib even provide much damage at all? I haven't seen high numbers from him yet

[cobalt apex]

they should make the concerto circle bigger cause im blind and cant see shit

[vapid river]

it does do extra dmg, but not much?

[cobalt apex]

mort only exist there for outro mostly

[ebon jasper]

i feel scammed on static mist

[blissful tulip]

It will always be useful on a future gun 5*

[vapid river]

^

[cobalt apex]

nah future 5* gun

carry

[blissful tulip]

And right now, you can make use of it without many issues on Aalto and Chixia, even if they are slightly behind the competition

[barren drift]

camellya future gun trust

[ebon jasper]

37 pulls on yinlin banner
2 stringmaster 0 cadenza

encore main?

[cobalt apex]

its time to be an encore main

[vapid river]

yeah

if you have encore she'll love that

[opal venture]

I farmed flautist 4 days and got this

[ebon jasper]

saving 64 pity for jinhsi/changli so no yinlin

64 pity comes from pulling danjin and guess what

[vapid river]

i've been farming flautists for over a week and haven't seen anything

[ebon jasper]

0 danjin s9 chixia

[vapid river]

very nice though

your work is done now

[storm ledge]

💀

[cobalt apex]

no more pain and suffering

[storm ledge]

chixia main

[ebon jasper]

danjin doko

[vapid river]

danjin gone

[cobalt apex]

i got s6 danjin and s2 chixia + mort

[ebon jasper]

u getting all my danjin

[cobalt apex]

from 100 pulls on jiyan banner?

[ebon jasper]

[cobalt apex]

[vapid river]

i'm happy with jiyan+sig and yinlin+sig

i'll coast now

till i see someone i want

[cobalt apex]

ill be happy with changli + sig

[ebon jasper]

time to yolo yinlin banner more for that cadenza

[cobalt apex]

if my luck doesnt fail me

[vapid river]

changli's sig might be worth

[cobalt apex]

and make me lose another 50:50

[ebon jasper]

inb4 r5 stringmaster and still 0 cadenza

[vapid river]

had i lost yinlin 50

i would have quit

r5 string would be dope though

[vapid river]

rank 1 encore

[ebon jasper]

strongest encore

[blissful tulip]

Genuinely don't know how to get rid of these on Chixia

They fit her perfectly

At least they're 1 costs

[vapid river]

1 costs seem to level nicely

same with 4 costs, for the most part

3 costs though?

fuck those ass holes

i hope we get 13 cost limit

give me 4-4-1-1-1

err 3-1-1

[cobalt apex]

20 cost limit 4-4-4-4-4

[vapid river]

or make 5 cost

[storm ledge]

true just whale a little on standard banner for s6

[vapid river]

but those aren't 50s your losing to when you lose

those are 20s

hurts so much worse

[storm ledge]

ik

[cobalt apex]

ik it so much

lost to yanqing at 30 pity on topaz banner

🙂

[storm ledge]

imagine pulling on standard banner with premium currency

[cobalt apex]

“accidentally” convert

[storm ledge]

smart

[vapid river]

i want to whale for energy

i'm so close to ul 40

hate that it took fuckin the first week to reroll an account i wanted to play

[blissful tulip]

Does anyone else here play on mobile or am I the only one? Wanted to hear if optimization was poor on your side as well post-hotfix

[outer jetty]

Not end of the line phone so pretty low FPS. But I have more persistent connection problem than graphic even with 80-100 average ping.

I just gonna wait till console version after 1.1

[kind turtle]

is this supposed to be blank?

[cobalt apex]

uh absolutely not

[blissful tulip]

Restart the game

Usually fixes it

[cobalt apex]

mine

[kind turtle]

oh yay the tasks are here

[barren drift]

wait

tempest mephis is the one u want right

2 crate mephis' 😄

[neat robin]

Tempest yes

[small bronze]

i

hate

those

bears

[neat robin]

Waht bears?

[small bronze]

spearbacks

[neat robin]

What site is that where people tracking their pulls?

[barren drift]

theres 1 for wuwa alr?

[cobalt apex]

i dont think so?

[barren drift]

oh theres 1 alr

lol

[lilac hare]

Idk if it counts but I play on ipad and there’s no issue there (except the camera as always)

[cobalt apex]

which one is it

[cobalt cobalt]

Guys I’m having weird lag spikes in wuwa all of a sudden

[cobalt apex]

https://www.wuthering.app/convene
this one?

[neat robin]

Is it safe? Like ik the genshin & hsr ones have been around for year+ now

[cobalt apex]

no idea

i just found this from a reddit post

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1d6wrdp/wuthering_waves_gacha_pity_tracker/

someone can confirm whether its safe or not

idk

[barren drift]

https://wuwatracker.tech
I used this one

i checked the script it uses its safe

[neat robin]

I’m so used to tracking my own
Like I have 2 years worth of genshin 5*s in a sheet

[cobalt apex]

[neat robin]

But been using the starrail one and its nice that it does the work for me

[barren drift]

all these bt no crit rate

honestly fucked rates

[cobalt apex]

gotta love seeing it

[barren drift]

wait

[knotty fiber]

Until you see red number and then Lingyang on my account

[cobalt apex]

[ebon jasper]

where my embed

[cobalt apex]

at least s1 calcharo is better than lingyang

[barren drift]

it didnt import my pulls from beginners

[neat robin]

Bad luck
I had like 7-8 crit mephis after using my 15 weekly boosted drops

[neat robin]

We cant even check beginner banner history in game anymore either

[barren drift]

i still can

on the slide down menu

[neat robin]

Ohh

[rotund drum]

i guess it probably doesnt hurt to level hrover a bit and give her some echoes

i can use the weapon and echoes for danjin prefarm later on

[cobalt apex]

it did for me

[rotund drum]

hrover has her own unique ascension mat right

usually the mc does

[cobalt apex]

yea

[rotund drum]

seems relatively low investment then

you need an insane amount of trailblaze xp for ar50 so no point in hoarding mats

leveling to 60 and lv3 traces isnt that expensive anyway

as long as you dont waste on the shitty stat traces

[barren drift]

oh it did for me 😭

i had to scroll all the way down

[cobalt apex]

[barren drift]

the game doesnt register my s1 encore for some reason???

weird..

[knotty fiber]

HRover is low investment but actual 5* performance

Uh, not the Lingyang 5* let's be clear

[cobalt apex]

HRover nuke feels great

(if only i had more cr for her to crit )

[knotty fiber]

After the swap cancel nerf

Yinlin havers cry

Cuz Yinlin Goku comp is relatively weaker than Jiyan Mortefi comp now

[cobalt apex]

wuwa cant go one day without something getting changed

[cobalt apex]

at least its more fun to play

[barren drift]

oh

the tracker doesnt account the give back convene

i see

[small bronze]

wait so today there is only 2 survey tasks?

[blissful tulip]

Unfortunately I lost 50/50 to S1 Calcharo on Jiyan's banner better to make use of him rather than benching him this early

[rotund drum]

what was the yinlin swap nerf

[blissful tulip]

Back in CBT2, you could keep Yinlin's buffs on Calcharo assuming you swapped back to him in time before the model disappeared during his HA

Now, immediate loss of buffs when swapped out

So Calcharo is rooted on-field

[cobalt apex]

noway someone who has the exact same problem as me

s1 calcharo gang

[neat robin]

s1 cal too

[small bronze]

s1 jiyan gang

[neat robin]

I wanted s1 jiyan instead I got s1 lingyang and s0 jiyan

[small bronze]

i still cant believe this pull i got when the game launched on 20 pity

[blissful tulip]

God I genuinely wouldn't mind Ling Yang at this point, at least he has a different playstyle

Bit too late to be happy for him now if I get him though

[cobalt apex]

maybe someday ill get 2 5* in a ten pulls

[neat robin]

Hard to build glacio rn
They have to stay on field. And no mort for lingyang basic dmg

[cobalt apex]

glacio active echoes are

[blissful tulip]

Good against mobs, bad against bosses

My performance suddenly significantly improved after increasing my settings higher , wow

Drains my battery slightly faster but barely any stutters in sight

Waves may be saved for me

[neat robin]

Genuinely though lingyang does feel fun to play
Even if its mono glacio
A sub dps for basic/glacio pls +baizhi

[blissful tulip]

Sanhua

[neat robin]

Like mort

Sanhua is nice though

But lingyang is solo dps

[small siren]

hello

how much worse is cosmic ripple on yinlin

than her signature

i heard from somewhere it was 30%

but i do not know if that is true

[blissful tulip]

Only 17% worse according to Prydwen's calcs

[knotty fiber]

I don't trust prydwen

[neat robin]

There we go
+15pity cal from novice banner

[knotty fiber]

bro says Yinlin's dps > Jiyan's dps with whatever calc

I wonder if that's from beta or what

[cobalt apex]

wuwa-tc soon surely

[small siren]

oh

i see

[knotty fiber]

from CN bro's calcs

if sig is 100%

cosmic ripples is 70%

[small siren]

oh my

that is

quite large

[knotty fiber]

different test setups

[rotund drum]

i think prydwen doesnt factor in swaps or field time

which is obv team reliant

which is why jiyan gets high dps ratings even though his field time is cancer

[olive osprey]

Has any CN bro calced Jinhsi's dupes dps increase?

[rotund drum]

c1 is whatever it says it is iirc

c2 sounds like yelan's where it only works between battles

so it depends on how long the fight actually is

in practice it wont make much diff since any fight you actually need to minmax dps will be long

[olive osprey]

Does being "out of combat" mean we cant be in combat for 4 seconds? Or Jinhsi just doesnt have to be on field for 4 seconds?

What's yelan c2 again

Lemme look it up brb

[rotund drum]

yelan's passive

out of combat is different from off-field in genshit

not sure about wuwa but its probably the same

since they rip everything off

[knotty fiber]

the former

switched out is still in combat but not taking action

out of combat is the whole team not engaging in any combat

[olive osprey]

Her S2 is really bad\

BocchiGlitching

[knotty fiber]

yeah

[olive osprey]

Looks like i'll just get her at S0R1

[knotty fiber]

it's just for rotation push

not like Changli's S1 and S2 are good either

[cobalt apex]

oh no the 1.x cons

[olive osprey]

Kuro is really lockign everything in S6 huh

[knotty fiber]

the good ones are locked behind the bad ones

yeah

If my understanding is correct

Changli's good ones are S3 S5 and broken at S6

[olive osprey]

Im consdering on whether to pull for Yinlin S0 (for jinhsi's team) or Jinhsi dupes rn

[knotty fiber]

Jinhsi are broken from iirc S3 to S6

[olive osprey]

Looks like pulling yinlin is prob better at this rate

[cobalt apex]

just pull whoever u like more tbh

it doesnt matter that much

[olive osprey]

I only like JInhsi, im thinking of pulling yinlin purely for Jinhsi's team

[barren drift]

camellya waiting train 🚂

[knotty fiber]

ppl are leaking Tsubaki to be 1.2 but can't even verify the leak

I'm skeptical cuz I don't think Tsubaki is coming that quickly

[olive osprey]

Do we know what's the DPS increase on S3 S5 S6?

Camellya sounds like my type, very Hu Tao like, the problem is idk whos her JP seiyuu

[rotund drum]

tsubaki yayoi

[knotty fiber]

no

[cobalt apex]

i mean u can even wait for the 1.2 drip marketing since that should happen soon (?)

[knotty fiber]

tbh it's all just speculation for now since we don't know how the wording turns out to be

but someone made a dmg sheet for both of them

which there's a lot of points I don't agree with

[knotty fiber]

yeah

if it's like HSR then should be Monday next week

or if Genshin then 3 days b4 next patch

also can I steal your birds and flautists again @cobalt apex

[cobalt apex]

sure wait me a bit

[knotty fiber]

I kept getting fucked over ytd
did 6 worlds and no usable

did you get automodded

[olive osprey]

Lmao

Idk

[cobalt apex]

[olive osprey]

I didnt get any warning, yet

Nvm

Just got em

But srsly fuck flautists

Nvr got any electro dmg from them

[cobalt apex]

my wuwa crashed

@knotty fiber u can join now

ive been doing dif 6 monkey for 1h with no 5* weapons and mediocre echoes

and im so deadge

[dense elbow]

i still dont have shit did they just appear or?

[kind turtle]

i restarted then they appeared

[dense elbow]

hmmmge

weird they wouldnt be there on first launch

[cobalt apex]

my ping keeps fluctuating between 50-300 is it only my problem?

[knotty fiber]

hopefully I don't get fucked again today

[knotty fiber]

probably not yours

cuz mine normally is 210~270

[forest dome]

cbt3 be rocking

[knotty fiber]

but it's been since ytd that it's fluctuating from 300 to 999

[cobalt apex]

hmge

[knotty fiber]

friend keeps saying the issue is at me but I have seen some others having the same issue too

[dense elbow]

wtf is a collectible

it aint flowers

or rocks

[knotty fiber]

💀 idk I got them finished right away

[dense elbow]

[oak copper]

my ping also keeps jumping up and down all the time. Sometimes I legit cant tell if the hologram bosses are just that badly done or if its server related

[dense elbow]

ok it meant specifically wildlife like butterflies

😭

[blissful tulip]

It's a very short event

[knotty fiber]

for whatever reason

[blissful tulip]

Rewards are plentiful though

[knotty fiber]

this keeps happening to me

[dense elbow]

yeah just nothing i picked up counted as a "collectbile"

[knotty fiber]

the rate should be 80-20

and I think for the birds

it's vice versa for me

[cobalt apex]

maybe they lied to u

[knotty fiber]

I farmed about 20+ birds drop and only 5 of them were gold

[oak copper]

wasn't this event their "emergency" event due to lacking rewards complaints?

[dense elbow]

wouldnt be surprised given how plentiful it is compared to all their other events xD

[knotty fiber]

yeah

emergency event

[oak copper]

hence it being so short for so much stuff by comparison

[knotty fiber]

I fucking knew it

like

what in the fuck

[blissful tulip]

Yes, they promised to improve future events to be on a similar level, I assume it'll be slightly better in comparison to the usual GI event

[knotty fiber]

other elites are never like this

[blissful tulip]

Content of event not withstanding of course

[knotty fiber]

only the birds

[blissful tulip]

Wonder if they'll actually end up being good

[knotty fiber]

suprised fker

[cobalt apex]

rest in peace

and its so weird too
jump up for like .2s then goes down and repeating constantly

whoops slow msg

[blissful tulip]

I've been getting a few of these recently, I'd love to level them up but I have no echo exp

[knotty fiber]

I think it spikes more when you go into combat

[cobalt apex]

yea

goes to 300 for .2s then back to 70

happening every like 3s

[knotty fiber]

💀

my first 3 weeks were never like this

[wheat moon]

avg wuwa moment

[forest dome]

kuro 🗣️ 🔥

[cobalt apex]

🔥

[blissful tulip]

Really is Kuro

[knotty fiber]

today is gonna be a long day

[cobalt apex]

no internet connection

[knotty fiber]

oh yeah

my yesterday

[rotund drum]

kuro should make a wuwa anime like cyberpunk did

that might save it

[cobalt apex]

when will we have the genshin anime...