・wuwa-lounge

[rotund drum]

i wouldnt lose too much sleep over not having encore tbh

its like having keqing instead of diluc in 1.0

people will rave about how op diluc is but he was crept by like 1.2

[upper flare]

hmm

true

[rotund drum]

and realistically most nonwhales probs arent doing 21 until ar50

well 21 is probably doable with a 1-2 split on both f4s

24 def aint happening though

jianxin + encore and you take verina from selector sounds like a decent account if you really want to reroll though

i wouldnt want to replay up to ar30 though

with all the unskippable bullshit from the latter half of the story quests

honestly i dont think yinlin is that great either so if you wanted to just save for jinhsi instead of pulling on yinlin + her sig that might be a better use of your gems

[rigid shore]

mother and the children

[upper flare]

wait yinlin feels really good tho

[neat robin]

Yinlin is good yes

[cobalt apex]

also the best i can get with danjin hrover is 6/0/9 stars

above that is impossible for me

[rotund drum]

shes like an electro support for calcharo and the coordinated attack may be good just for building stacks for jinhsi

otherwise it doesnt feel ike she does anything super special

she takes a lot of field time to set up her mark too

[rigid shore]

yea sur

[neat robin]

I’m 9/0/8 with jiyan & cal-yinlin
Just stuck by bad electro sets rn

[sterile swallow]

But at least Yinlin's on field time is decent. And she has AoE for days

[upper flare]

hmm offield dps that buffs just sounds really good

[cobalt apex]

with a really good build danjin too

[upper flare]

and someone that can be used a lot in the future too

[rotund drum]

easiest way to do 18 for the time being is to do 1-1-2-2 with whoever

then use your best team for both sides of 3-3

that'll leave enough stam on your good team for one side of 4 too if you want to try for 21 stars

[upper flare]

imma play on my alt for a bit and see how it goes, altho idk if i wanna farm up to UL 30

i did spend almost 40 wishes total on the wep banner tho i think?

its fine ig

[rotund drum]

i honestly think you're just making your life more difficult by restarting the game just for a standard reroll

you'll be really behind on AR now too

[upper flare]

there are also all the extra events...

[rotund drum]

having a standard 5* is cool for 1.0 but who's still using standards in a gacha past like the first month

[upper flare]

fair enough

[rotund drum]

this game doesnt really have any super busted support standards that'll last for a while either

like bronya in star fail

verina is the best support we have atm but that's just because of a general lack of supports in the game

[neat robin]

The account with cal verina & yinlins sig
You can also just use free 5* on encore and she can share the weapon with yinlin

If you did pull until her sig that is

[upper flare]

idk if i have enough asterites to get to that point

i need like 40 more wishes

i am already UL 30 so idk if we even have that many sources to get 40 wishes from

[rotund drum]

i would save for jinhsi/changli tbh

although thats preference

[upper flare]

hmm

[rotund drum]

jinhsi looks very good

changli also looks good albeit kinda generic

[blissful tulip]

Neat, almost there

[barren drift]

bro is reading jinhsi's kit

[blissful tulip]

Kuro could always, think this is the longest kit we've had yet

[neat robin]

They do outline of echo skills can they give us a summary of char skills
Like .. I dont need all this text just tell me jiyan hits once on lib% then converts all dmg to heavy%
Not whatever is going on there

[opal venture]

Jiyan's description is nothing compare to Jinhsi or Changli description since they change mode using E, and each new attack has its own new name

And Jinhsi has 3 modes

[cobalt apex]

jinhsi's description is

[neat robin]

Yeah ik but its only one I know lol

[cobalt apex]

who wrote this?

[neat robin]

They do quick summary in the dream realm thing of skills
Should offer it in actual chars kits too

[weary acorn]

A lot of nothing on that image

[blissful tulip]

Does this suggest that supports with fast attacks fill her core passive faster?

With exception to spectro

[cobalt apex]

the incandescence?

it has time limit/ stack

[knotty fiber]

Welcome to Kurogames

That Wanshi kit didn't stop there

There's also a wall of text in the red orb page also

[blissful tulip]

Yes, but it mentioned the "same attribute" being on a longer cooldown in comparison to different attributes , that's what I'm confused about

[knotty fiber]

And some fences in BA

Istg

The longest one ever

[blissful tulip]

At least we're 2 weeks away from 1.1

More about Jinshi's quirks and gimmicks will be tested by then

[cobalt apex]

do u have any idea what "attribute" here is talking about

cause i genuinely dont know

[blissful tulip]

Elements

[clear tartan]

What im getting is that every element has an internal cd

[cobalt apex]

then maybe ONLY the same element can provide incandescence?

[blissful tulip]

From what I gather from the wording, Spectro teammates refill her gauge less in comparison to other elements

To encourage her multi-element synergy

Rather than mono element

[cobalt apex]

since it doesnt even mention the rate for different elements

and per hit is kinda insane

[blissful tulip]

Fair enough, but most of the faster attackers don't refill their gauge fast enough

[cobalt apex]

since the scaling is pretty good

well lvl 6 is here but yea

[opal venture]

I guess at s0 she might get around 30ish stacks considering how slow our current sub dps/support make hit

[cobalt apex]

also if thats the case then this outro doesnt have any meaning

[clear tartan]

Jinhsi kinda cool, she looks to be a multi-element quickswap enabler

The outro just makes it stack quicker I reckon

[opal venture]

It does once we have her to actually test

[weary acorn]

What's her biggest dmg share on her kit?

Skill?

[opal venture]

E and ulti iirc

[weary acorn]

So another forte skill liberation prio?

[cobalt apex]

yea

[clear tartan]

Like each elements has a internal stack cd of 3 secs and her outro reduces that to 1 sec for a time, so you can stay on field with a decently fast attacking dude and build up her bar fast

[blissful tulip]

I'm surprised there's no beta at all really

[cobalt apex]

liberation is higher than hrover

[blissful tulip]

All the bugs and mishaps have to be found in-house

And that doesn't always end well

[cobalt apex]

there are many problems with the written kits that the chars need to actually be tried out

[opal venture]

I think they are making adjustment in-game while maintaining beta for next patch same time, so they need to do it internally

[clear tartan]

Unison looks potentially abusable

[opal venture]

In case any error in data happens it will not be published or leaked out

Especially at this stage when they want to keep player far from more drama

[weary acorn]

Still no cbt for 1.1?

[blissful tulip]

I feel that Jinshi will have an unnecessarily complex kit but an easy to grasp playstyle that makes her seem broken in the eyes of most CC's and casuals

[cobalt apex]

reasonable explanation actually

[blissful tulip]

Just like in PGR

[weary acorn]

In pgr u don't choose

U pull regardless

[clear tartan]

How are ppl getting animation/char/map leaks with no beta?

[weary acorn]

But not if ur a gopher jumping in late

[opal venture]

If she is quick swap focus then casual just gonna have a bad time and call her weak

[cobalt apex]

truege

[weary acorn]

Leaks idk there's probably is one

I know where they get most clients

[clear tartan]

Dim and Mero are just built diff

[blissful tulip]

Eh, I doubt it'll be this complex knowing what they did to outro skills and swapping

Don't want to scare the casuals off too early

[clear tartan]

Is there any char that have op intro skill?

That we can abuse with Unison

[weary acorn]

What's unison again? just instantly allow u to intro swap?

[clear tartan]

Yeah without using the concerto bar

[blissful tulip]

Encore/Calcharo?

[clear tartan]

So she has like 2 concerto bars technically

[blissful tulip]

Already?

[weary acorn]

Calcharo can chunk out a decent bar

[cobalt apex]

hmmge

[weary acorn]

Does yuanwu have like a decent break on intro?

[clear tartan]

Too bad you can only get unison every 25 secs

[blissful tulip]

Decent break, but not decent damage

Break doesn't particularly help as much, though, it stuns the boss but doesn't make it take more damage

[opal venture]

Yea i think she will be easy to play but not on Jiyan’s level of ease

But Changli looks like one requiring skills

[cobalt apex]

changli looks fun

[opal venture]

100%

[cobalt apex]

and i also like her

so ill prob skip jinhsi

[blissful tulip]

Genuinely curious as to how their kits will work against bosses, they look wildly different to anything we've seen before

Especially with the aerial combat being as clunky as it is in Waves

Due to misaligned hitboxes on a lot of the bosses

[cobalt apex]

aerial combat is very clunky yea

[clear tartan]

Maybe they'll increase air dodge iframes for aerial characters

[cobalt apex]

they might adjust the hitboxes too

[clear tartan]

Im thinking Yinlin/Mortefi would be interesting for Jinhsi

Since the stack cooldown is per element, you swap to them, let them put their off-field dmg then swap back to Jinhsi

[small bronze]

what does cbt related to wuwa mean

i thought u guys spoke about a different meaning for a second

[clear tartan]

Closed beta test

[cobalt apex]

[small bronze]

is mortefi set really ER?

why do i have so much of this, last time i farmed i used it all on jiyan and calcharo

also none of the current characters have any bonus for synthesizing which is odd and there is a bunch

[blissful tulip]

https://wutheringwaves.kurogames.com/en/main/news/detail/874

Premium Tuners and 5* echo exp tubes

Question is how much we'll get

[rigid shore]

probably events?

[teal sparrow]

I wonder if just like genshin, they will also eventually start asking you to complete story for some event

[night mantle]

I think they should

coz an event containing something from a quest and someone hasn't done it then its kinda a spoiler to them

[neat robin]

Or just give a warning you need to confirm spoilers before starting, if you havent done story yet

[night mantle]

who wants free 10 pull and solvents?

https://x.com/Narushioww/status/1800541715750584645

[kind turtle]

😔 not quite the same

[rotund drum]

they should just make it so you auto-pickup echoes after a few seconds

its annoying to have to check if a cruisewing or tick tack actually dropped anything

[blissful tulip]

Oh, how kind

[kind turtle]

you can hear the noise when an echo is dropped

that's how i tell

sweet

[cobalt apex]

standard or limited?

[kind turtle]

standard

what a pull

[cobalt apex]

damn

[rotund drum]

i have the sound off

[kind turtle]

s5 danjin

[cobalt apex]

ive been enjoying danjin a lot

[neat robin]

Shes fun but I keep forgetting her combos

[lilac hare]

My only c6 4* are hat guy and taoqi

[neat robin]

I end up using skill first constantly and then I’m just suffering with low health

[lilac hare]

[neat robin]

Oww
I got chixia danjin and mort all c6 from jiyan & beginner banners

[cobalt apex]

damn

[lilac hare]

Yeah the 4* on jiyan’s are actually good

[cobalt apex]

i only got s2 mort and chixia

[lilac hare]

But I got him early and won my 50/50, so unfortunately hardly any units from there

[lilac hare]

This is too good

[neat robin]

I ended up with 2 lingyangs from jiyan banner so

[lilac hare]

Oh damn

Gg..

[rotund drum]

i ended up with 2 lingyangs asnd 2 jiyans lmao

its literally rigged

people were complaining about it day 1

everyone literally everyone was losing 50/50 to lingyang

they probably fucked up the rates

[neat robin]

No my first 50/50 loss was to cal

Cal - jiyan - lingyang - yinlin - (back on jiyan banner)lingyang

But both lingyangs were lost on jiyans banner anyways

[rotund drum]

hopefully they buff him

its funny that everyone simps for calcharo because he's hot

but no one cares about lingyang even though he's at least as good

[neat robin]

I think glacio problem is its all field time

If they can make a mort but for glacio or somehting

You cant really quickswap off rn like you can with cal or encore

[rotund drum]

he has lampylumen spam at least

calcharo quickswap is mostly just bandaid for his animations being suck too

its not like he's good because of it

like encore quickswap makes her actually good because it lets her just do multiple high damage nukes back to back

[neat robin]

His own dps at s0 is higher than encore

[rotund drum]

then she can ult for field dps

and have animations that dont suck

[neat robin]

Hes just harder to actually do the proper combos for his best dmg

I hate encore’s animations so much

[rotund drum]

well the diff is having good damage without needing to swap and being able to swap for really high damage

vs having to swap just to get decent damage

like if they add some super creep field dps in the future i'll probably still use encore just as a quickswap

E > Q > ult > E > forte > swap etc

[ripe pollen]

What weapon type is jinhsi and changli using?

[oak copper]

Jinhsi is Broadsword and Changli Sword

[ripe pollen]

Thanks.

[opaque flume]

i wish

i have s2

[edgy cobalt]

encore best dps but no one uses her in toa

curious

[ruby rune]

pog more waveplates

[edgy cobalt]

more pity to build on weapon banner

[fickle kernel]

has anyone gotten the save the cat trophy yet

[edgy cobalt]

naur

[kind turtle]

not yet

[lilac hare]

Is there a site that has all the side quests with their initial locations?

[ruby rune]

anotha one

[rotund drum]

prefarming jinhsi?

shes not for another month i think so might as well slack for a while

its not super hard to get the mainstat anyway

[ripe pollen]

On 3-costs it is.

[rotund drum]

you'll get enough farming other stuff and merging the trash

well depends on how hard you farm i guess

[blissful tulip]

She's only two weeks away

[rotund drum]

is she

iirc they moved yinlin up but not 1.1

[blissful tulip]

Yes, she's first half I believe

[blissful tulip]

1.1 in its entirety has been moved up by a week

[rotund drum]

so its not a standard 3-week gap between banners

damn they must be really desperate

i thought yinlin would have helped a bit

[blissful tulip]

Yinlin did help, made double the money in JP in comparison to Jiyan, beating out Clorinde for that month

According to the JP revenue statistics, anyway

[rotund drum]

clorinde looks unironically suck unless im missing something about her reaction icds or w/e

but most people who are still spending in genshit are probably getting the same impression

[blissful tulip]

JP Va is Rie Takahashi

[rotund drum]

regardless of whether shes secretly op or not

so im not surprised that even yinlin could beat her

[blissful tulip]

I had thought that aspect would boost Clorinde a little

Suppose not

[edgy cobalt]

I think I might get it soon actually, I'm getting a consistent run of their daily quests

[rotund drum]

rie tanaka would have been better

[blissful tulip]

Fuck, I'm a dumbass, I meant Yui Ishikawa

[lament shuttle]

Hu Tao is this one

[edgy cobalt]

peak takahashi

[blissful tulip]

I know, I know, forgot entirely

[neat robin]

Ffs these stat differences. All lv70 with lv70 crit weapons too

[ripe pollen]

From what I've seen so far, if you don't kill all the 3-costs on the map every day you're gonna be screwed

[rotund drum]

once you're ar40 you have an 80% chance to get a gold echo from merge and sometimes 2 or even 3

so just going through killing all the wolves/roses and their adds should get you a fair few fodder echoes

while targeting fusion/havoc/etc

well it doesnt hurt to target spectro if you have spare time but i wouldnt break my back doing it every day

[ripe pollen]

I'm just targeting electro right now for Yinlin.

0 usable purple birds after 4 days of farming.

As in, not even a single rollable one.

[oak copper]

She has very strong Cons and can use nigh all the strong Supports so she scales really well vertically. Her baseline is quite mediocre though, yeah

[edgy cobalt]

if you're minmaxing then yeah

[lilac hare]

How many stars can you all get in ToA? Out of 30

[edgy cobalt]

really don't need to do that because you can get halfway into TOA with shit echoes

[lilac hare]

I’m 18/30, can’t get anymore than that

[edgy cobalt]

18 last reset, I'm gonna go for 21 before this one ends

[lilac hare]

Damn 21 is gonna be hard, goodluck

[edgy cobalt]

I'll be fine, just need to beef up yinlin

[blissful tulip]

Don't think most can

[edgy cobalt]

the funny thing is that I hit 18 stars on my 2nd week of playing
during UL30-40 era

toa is just a jiyan shill rn so if you're going for jinhsi next patch then toa will favour her

and I'll be screwed ig

[lilac hare]

Yeah same here lol

[edgy cobalt]

even with my progress
I'm using the worse 3* broadblade on him

so I reckon once I hit UL45 and get him the standard 5* one
21/30 will be in my sights

[lament shuttle]

I got 20 last reset

I think 24 is doable

[edgy cobalt]

24 if you have sig weapons I reckon

[lilac hare]

Ngl the camera issue makes it even harder to fight

[lament shuttle]

I don’t have jiyan so like 10/2/12 is prob what I’ll try for

[lilac hare]

At least for me, half of jiyan’s ult just hits nothing

Bad camera angles

[edgy cobalt]

what teams are you running to get past 18/30

[blissful tulip]

I simply don't have the damage to even 2* Heron

Chixia's comfortable but not strong in comparison to her competitors

4* issue

[edgy cobalt]

chixia and danjin are hologram sweepers tbh

[lament shuttle]

I know monkey can be 2* with encore sanhua, left side I’ll do havoc mc + Danjin and right side calchero yinlin

[edgy cobalt]

ohh you're going for duo

[lament shuttle]

Well I have 3 units for 3rd slot

[blissful tulip]

Maybe, but

[lament shuttle]

Jianxin, baizhi and verina

[blissful tulip]

Simply an unfortunate case of unlucky echoes on everyone else

[edgy cobalt]

I should build sanhua and danjin 😸

[lament shuttle]

Idt Danjin is particularly good

[edgy cobalt]

dj at s5 and wanted to main her in day1 but chixia said hello I'm s7

[blissful tulip]

Not sure who to build, I'll just stick with Calcharo, Rover, Yinlin and Chixia

No one else seems particularly fantastic or useful to me at the moment

[edgy cobalt]

I'm just doing
havoc mc yinlin and flex

[lament shuttle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjo79qU8v40

His sanhua not even built

And just has ER

[edgy cobalt]

just from the glance I'm already impressed

finally someone I can look up to for TOA clearing real

[lament shuttle]

I think the guy has like some of the best rotations I’ve seen

[edgy cobalt]

wait nvm he has stringmaster

but encore echoes don't really look that good

[lilac hare]

This is too good

[blissful tulip]

Very impressive

[edgy cobalt]

sanhua with 5* standard sword

[lilac hare]

I’ll use this as reference when I get stringmaster for encore

[edgy cobalt]

I'm now convinced 18+ stars is possible if you have 5* weapons lowkey

[blissful tulip]

It is, I am at 19/30

Chixia can 1* Heron

Good on her

[edgy cobalt]

its gonna be my case when I get my 5* broadblade for jiyan and hit 21 stars

[lament shuttle]

I have the sword and stringless and got 20

So it’s def doable

[edgy cobalt]

100% doable

[blissful tulip]

Not sure whether to go for broad blade or sword

When the box comes

[edgy cobalt]

who's the big sword for and who's the sword for

[rotund drum]

Sword since crit

Even if JS can't use it someone else will

[lament shuttle]

I’d get the sword and if you want the broadsword get the rate up next patch

[edgy cobalt]

like calcharo and jiyan can use big sword
jinhsi not much

[lament shuttle]

Since its crit rate

[rotund drum]

JS can use either a 4* or sig if you want to spend on it

[sterile swallow]

Hoard for Jinhsi

[blissful tulip]

Don't think I'll have enough for the broadsword let alone Jinshi , I'll give it a try though

[lament shuttle]

Unless she’s gonna be Mega busted I’m just gonna go for her weapon

[blissful tulip]

May just wait until 1.2 in its entirety, still hesitant about spending on the game

[edgy cobalt]

y'all know anything about this chest?

tried searching through guides and got nothing

[lament thorn]

does your data bank level increase if you get tds from tacet fields

[kind turtle]

yeah

its a pokedex

[sterile swallow]

Go jump down the waterfall and do the pufferfish challenge

[edgy cobalt]

thanks

[sterile swallow]

It will end up at that chest and unlock it

[edgy cobalt]

need to stop slacking and 100% the whole map before 1.1

granted I'm at 90% avg and its mostly blobflies and viewpoints I'm missing

[lament thorn]

im lost .... what do they mean tune

[lament shuttle]

reveal substat

[lament thorn]

how do u do that? not that far in the game lol

leveling it up?

[lament shuttle]

level it up to 5 and then reveal it yeah

[lament thorn]

oh ok

[lament shuttle]

but tbh youre better off just doing the other tasks

like use 1 supply = cook 1 food and eat it

[kind turtle]

yeah save your xp

[edgy cobalt]

I've been wondering this whole time and never bothered with it lmao

hungry irl rn gonna eat some supplies

[lament shuttle]

I just make that skewer thing and it’s fast

[edgy cobalt]

maxed out the chef thing so I have so much food

[kind turtle]

maxing cooking was my living nightmare

[lament shuttle]

I didn’t do it does it give union xp?

[kind turtle]

no, just 20 primos

plus whatever the cringe interlevel rewards were

[lament shuttle]

Doesn’t it cost a ton of credits

[kind turtle]

i spent over a mil definitely

[lament thorn]

is ascending your world level worth it?

im lvl 20 rn

does it get significantly harder?

[lament shuttle]

Overworld is a joke

Always lvl it up

[lament thorn]

alr

[edgy cobalt]

maxing out synthesis was better experience than cooking

[lament thorn]

is she really human?

[edgy cobalt]

she got the dots like sparkle

[barren drift]

https://tenor.com/view/moist-critical-gif-18538102

[hollow gorge]

He has Touhou music playing in the background. Most players probably can't replicate his results

[outer jetty]

On CN side the reply has been super negative saying this a staged PR move while the other side glazing over the bait.

[oak copper]

People complaining about baity PR moves in a Gacha is something special

but sure, let them complain, maybe they can add another limited 10 pull to the standard one

[outer jetty]

Maybe after Google Classroom incident

[oak copper]

WuWa pull economy running on never-ending complaints about trivialities

[edgy cobalt]

lets complain some more then we'll get another free 5* lesgo

[barren drift]

[edgy cobalt]

wanna ensure I get s2 verina and every standard in the game

[rotund drum]

its actually a pretty good strategy

spend free pulls > get new char > use all your mats to level > need a weapon > spend more money on pulls to get one > no more resin > spend primogems to refresh stamina > 1.1 in 2 weeks > no pulls left for jinhsi > have to spend money

[small siren]

hello

if i have cosmic ripples is stringmaster still worth it to pull

on yinlinn

[opal venture]

Stringmaster is like 30% dmg increasing from cosmic ripples

[rotund drum]

damage on a support

i think most of the stringwhales are pulling it for encore

[opal venture]

Its a very strong statstick yes

[kind turtle]

oh pog, a gold

Second Coming of Solaris rewards (June 13th > June 27th)

a.k.a:
420 Primos
12 Gold Character XP Mats
8 Purple Weapon XP Mats
8 Purple Echo XP Mats

[cobalt apex]

XP

[rotund drum]

pretty wild stuff

people complaining that events dont give enough

[kind turtle]

I mean, imagine genshin events giving 12 heroes wit and 8 crystals 😭

And not enough XP for a +10

[cobalt apex]

also do sub rolls in wuwa favor lower rolls?

cause ive heard the actual average is lower than just the (min+max)/2

[opal venture]

I have never seen any crit dmg sub stat went pass 18% in my acc

[vernal mason]

Hey guys
Should I use a CR tempest or a CD one for chalcaro

[opal venture]

If you have 60+ crit rate you can use crit dmg, else just go crit rate

[vernal mason]

I believe that's the heighest

[cobalt apex]

just go nearest to 1/2 ratio

[cobalt apex]

highest ive had is 19.8 cv

[vernal mason]

Oh just the usual genshin stuff then

[opal venture]

Thats a flex

[vernal mason]

For danjin?

[cobalt apex]

no

threw it away tho it had 4 trash rolls and a 19.8% cd

[vernal mason]

[cobalt apex]

and btw the 150% cd u get at base is +50% cd

so u still start with 5cr 50 cd

if no cr weapon a cr 4 cost would be ideal

bringing it to 27/50

[opal venture]

How tf 12% critdmg exists anyway

[cobalt apex]

at least its a crit roll

better than a hp/def roll or a useless dmg% roll

still my best echo

rolled it when i just got UL 30

[vernal mason]

My best

For now

Btw how is this one for calcharo

[cobalt apex]

this is a 2 rolls piece

okayge to use

not good

[vernal mason]

He doesn't need skill DMG bonus

[cobalt apex]

yea

[vernal mason]

Also how is mortefi

[cobalt apex]

his best is literation dmg% and basic dmg% (like 1/3 of literation still)

mortefi is great with jiyan

other than that he's uh

not great

[vernal mason]

Any other good Pyro other than encore

[cobalt apex]

chixia is good

she kinda want cons tho

[vernal mason]

Cause I just happened to get good fusion echoes

[cobalt apex]

changli in 1.1

[vernal mason]

Nah I am going for jinshi

Her playstyle looked good

[cobalt apex]

changli looks more fun to play

so im pulling

[vernal mason]

Haven't seen her playstyle

Share me the link

[cobalt apex]

stocked has it in pins

[vernal mason]

Ok I change it changli is better

[cobalt apex]

[vernal mason]

But I am still going for jinshi as well

Time to completely explore this world

I am gonna complete this game before 1.1 even comes

[cobalt apex]

its fine since u dont get yinlin

wont be hard to get both

[oak copper]

meanwhile on the website they've announced this for the 13th also:
https://wutheringwaves.kurogames.com/en/main/news/detail/874

Guess we're getting 2 events tomorrow?

[edgy cobalt]

used up all my 1-3* weapon fodder and almost went from 60 -> 70

what having no 5* weapon does to a mf it seems

[cobalt apex]

leveling a 5* to 70 would be fun

[edgy cobalt]

this why I just go for credits rn

[cobalt apex]

2 of them would be even better

unfortunately today is the last day of event

sadge

[edgy cobalt]

having two 5* weapons is either a lucksack or spender territory

[cobalt apex]

not really

im already at 48 pity

and UL 43

[edgy cobalt]

and if you're spender then it shouldn't be a problem because battle pass gives plenty resources

[edgy cobalt]

what does this have to do with having two weapons

[cobalt apex]

UL 45 is a weapon

and i can get another one from standard banner

[edgy cobalt]

so you're implying you have two 5* weapons

correct?

[cobalt apex]

are going to have

in a week?

[edgy cobalt]

idk you said not really then proceed to claim your pity and UL so I'm confused

[cobalt apex]

i mean a lot of people here already have 5* weapons

either pulling on sigs

or from standards

[edgy cobalt]

I guess I could've gotten a 5* weapon yeah, I did guarantee myself jiyan and yinlin anyways

[cobalt apex]

and in a week most people will get another 5* from UL 45

infinite credit and xp drain

[edgy cobalt]

probably not in my case

once I hit UL45 in less than a week

speaking of pity I'd even have 48 pity on weapon rn
well 40 but I have 8 rolls in the tank cuz I wanna have reserves since I'm hoarding my 2 selectors rn

[neat robin]

I have 2 5* weapons at level 70
But did buy bp

[cobalt apex]

nice im somehow stuck here now

[neat robin]

Has anyone tried yinlin in the dream thing?

I sorta want to see what chaos you can buff her skills into

[floral bone]

illusive realm? shes gets some fun stuff like making her plunge drop her ultimate on the enemy

[night mantle]

Asia has 14hr but NA has 3 hrs huh?

[blissful tulip]

Europe has 21h, should be working as normal

NA servers likely misinputted

[night mantle]

lets see in 3hrs KEKW

[cobalt apex]

[edgy cobalt]

8600 points in intimidating rift smh

tbf I didn't even break 14k and I spammed dreamless echoes

[knotty fiber]

Does anyone in SEA still have Flautist VHeron and salamander left?

[cobalt apex]

flautist and vheron are the only things i farmed

wait actually

i havent farmed today and dont need them anymore

@knotty fiber 901192250 if u want

[knotty fiber]

thank you

[cobalt apex]

np just finished building yinlin yday

so no need for them anymore

[barren drift]

did they mess with some ani cancel?

i feel like i cant ani cancel faster now

i used to be able to ani cancel sanhua's ice break

[knotty fiber]

yes

they nerfed Goku Yinlin synergy

bricking a mechanism just for that

[cobalt apex]

mech abom is disabled in coop?

[knotty fiber]

not supposed to

before

Both Crownless and Mech were

Crownless was fixed

Mech wasn't

even though they addressed this issue like

15 hotfixes ago

[cobalt apex]

sadge

i farmed mech more than all the other 4 cost combined

rolling echoes is such a pain

[blissful tulip]

Surprised even 4 cost echoes take as long as they do

[neat robin]

Wait

The character talent mats are based on weapon type

[cobalt apex]

yea

[neat robin]

No wonder I’m running out I only need 2 types of stuff rn 😭

[cobalt apex]

also 107 why is ur ping so bad

[night mantle]

So I thought how different is wuwa echo system from genshin's artifact system and found out its not much different its just changes what you farm

[knotty fiber]

I'm in NA

[night mantle]

in genshin you farm 5* artifacts(gacha point) from domains instead of leveling up materials which you get through open world searching

[knotty fiber]

damn

[night mantle]

in wuwa you farm leveling up materials from domains and get echos from open world

[knotty fiber]

no usable flautist and heron

[cobalt apex]

😭

[knotty fiber]

there are like 20 gold drops

and none usable

[cobalt apex]

pain

[blissful tulip]

Big difference is that you have to level up any main stat piece you get, and you can farm as many of those as you like

The tuners and echo exp are all stamina gated, which throws you in a more endless loop even in comparison to Genshin's systems, as you can see the substats immediately

[cobalt apex]

yea

im on my 6th cr mech rn

still trying to get a good one

[blissful tulip]

Did you get a single crit roll on any of them

[cobalt apex]

only 1

and got 2 def 2 hp

[blissful tulip]

I'm sorry

[cobalt apex]

and yea the difference is that u have to level every correct main stat

and then if ur unlucky u have to suffer

how the 6th went

[neat robin]

Rip

Me with my dreamless though

[cobalt apex]

this piece made it so that my yinlin is fully built and cal has nothing 😭

i hope kuro will add more ways to obtain echo xp than just resin and opening chests

[knotty fiber]

damn no salamander either

thank you @cobalt apex

[cobalt apex]

np

hope ur luckier next time tho

[neat robin]

I need to somehow find two aero pieces with roll er cr cdmg/atk%…

[cobalt apex]

just give up

...

[knotty fiber]

mine currently

I have some aero copies left to replace the heron

but I don't have dice and tubes lmao

I need to spend on other units

[cyan rain]

anyone know when is 1.1 livestream?

[blissful tulip]

Should be 10 days prior to 1.1 as they've been following the hoyo structure

If not, expect it 3 days prior like 1.0

[cobalt apex]

isnt it 12d prior for genshin?

[blissful tulip]

Usually 10/11 iirc

[cobalt apex]

i guess it can also be timezone difference

[knotty fiber]

This time it's different because of the version push

So yeah hard to tell

[blissful tulip]

Should be this week

But if not, expect next week

[small bronze]

pls changli be second banner

[small siren]

oh my god

that is very big

i guess ill have to try pull her weapon then

🥲

[cobalt apex]

im fine with her being in either

[small siren]

although

yinlin hits harder than my c2 r1 jiyan

which is kinda sad

so she could be very strong with her siig

[small bronze]

im not cause i want more time, which is bigger odds of getting her

and i couldnt care less about jhinsi

or however her name goes

[cobalt apex]

i can prob get enough pulls to guarantee changli b4 1.1 comes

[small bronze]

i already pulled jiyan + sig and yinlin thats why i need more time

but i got pretty lucky cause the jiyan pull was at 0 pity

[cobalt apex]

i skipped jiyan and lost 50/50 on yinlin

[small bronze]

oof

1.1 you gonna get lucky

[cobalt apex]

real

i lost my first 50/50 in all 3 gacha games

zzz might be the 4th streak

[small bronze]

i hope nottt

also we gonna be 45 soon and then i dont know if i should wait with sword if i get changli the choices

[cobalt apex]

u can get 2 5* weapons

from UL 45 and standard banner

prob get enough pulls to guarantee the 5* standard in 1.1

[small bronze]

i aint buying normal wishes though and im on 18 pity on standard weapon

if only we would get standard wishes from leveling up characters

[cobalt apex]

prob enough bug fixes for guarantee

im at 48

[small bronze]

did you not wish for the guarantees yet?

like the 80 guaranteed pick

thats what i wished at my standards

[cobalt apex]

already

[small bronze]

or whatever the number was

i think it was 50

[cobalt apex]

used 10 on the beginner 70 on the choice

and rn 48 on weapon

[small bronze]

ah

[storm ledge]

||werent you the guy who called changli female diluc ||

[small bronze]

after further investigation i have changed my mind

[cobalt apex]

[storm ledge]

[tawdry sapphire]

Black Shore is larger now
With another small island nearby

[night mantle]

bro use a spoiler cover, not everyone wanna know leaks

[burnt brook]

Possibly 4 star?

[night mantle]

he is black and white so yeah possibly 4 star

[blissful tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/lee-pgr-lee-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-lee-overburn-gif-26731873

Hopefully he's fun

[opal venture]

He reminds me of Wanshi more than Lee tbh

[rigid shore]

wat dis

does boss drops

vary

like does it give you 2 sometimes and 3 sometimes at level 40?

[blissful tulip]

Yes

I assume that around UL60, we'll be getting a consistent 4 drops for every boss

[rigid shore]

its genshin all over again

21/20 moments

oh

hopefully

[clear stump]

It's dumb how they even copied the bad thing of genshin

[rigid shore]

true

even the using burst while in shallow water

wont show the animation is in the game

[clear stump]

Copy paste homework be like

[blissful tulip]

It's more funny than anything
Having to leave combat events in order to switch levels
Having to leave ToA in order to switch teams and levels unless you lose, in which case you can swap
Inconsistent drops
Only being able to refine one at a time

[clear stump]

They copied 3.x genshin instead of 4.x

[rigid shore]

i hope they fix the ToA problem

i use a hard drive so i load really slow

[blissful tulip]

Hopefully they up the optimization in general once 1.1 comes

[storm ledge]

non ssd gamers

[rigid shore]

cheap tons of storage over slightly faster loading screens

https://tenor.com/view/rikka-takanashi-love-chunibyo-%26-other-delusions-chunibyo-anime-anime-girl-gif-13703817700336778151

[storm ledge]

"slightly faster" 2 to 10 times faster

[rigid shore]

still

not worth it

i need to read loading screen tips

[storm ledge]

[rigid shore]

and drink water

[wheat moon]

depends from person to person on what their needs are and the availability

there are some ssds that compete with hdds in terms of price and storage

[rigid shore]

welp true ig

[wheat moon]

but tbh

[rigid shore]

but im broke so if it aint giving me atleast 1 more frame i aint buyin it

[wheat moon]

u don't rly need to upgrade

since u seem to have no issue

[wheat moon]

real

[rigid shore]

surely in the next decade ssds become so cheap to the point where hdds arent worth it anymore

clueless

[naive basin]

it is kinda headed that way tbh

[rigid shore]

its all gonna be pcie 3 ssds probs

[steady knoll]

https://fxtwitter.com/Rexlent/status/1800680914437214520?t=6MsY3HnhG3zgEQBmAp9EJg&s=19

[naive basin]

better ssd comes out

old ssds become cheaper

hard drives get phased out

[ruby rune]

ssd bricks yeah

[rigid shore]

cant wait for ddr6 to buy 128gb ddr4s

[ruby rune]

pcie I believe will still be priced properly

[rigid shore]

for less than a 100

[ruby rune]

unless they release a new type of ssd

[rigid shore]

sata ye

[naive basin]

gpus are also becoming more convenietely priced

(lies)

[rigid shore]

soon 1080 ti for a 100usd

the power consumption is hot but man

[naive basin]

i heard my new laptop has catastrophic motherboard failure issues in the india market

gambling laptop

[blissful tulip]

May attempt playing Waves on my igpu laptop again , have they fixed the borderless issue?

[naive basin]

nope

[blissful tulip]

Suppose not then

[naive basin]

nothing of note has been fixed

so much that i upgraded to a 4050

[rigid shore]

[naive basin]

just to play this shit game

[rigid shore]

Goodluck

[naive basin]

[naive basin]

i ordered mine from lenovo thailand hopefully it doesn't come from the same production plant

the i7 models of the laptop burn themselves out

and the mobo fails

hot temps out of the box

[rigid shore]

surely those failures are like less than 1% chance

[naive basin]

out of like 1k members on the LOQ sub

maybe like

10 people

and nearly all of it is from lenovo india

prayge

[rigid shore]

12-14th gen?

[naive basin]

13th and 14th gen

apparently

the i7 14700HX and rtx 4060 combo seems to burn out the motherboard

[blissful tulip]

Goes that high now?

[naive basin]

too much heat to dissipate

i ordered the i5 13450HX

which has essentially the same power draw

im cooked

i will be undervolting the laptop the second it comes out the box

[rigid shore]

How much wattage the 4050

[naive basin]

aint taking no chances

[naive basin]

105w

i made sure it was before i bought it

[rigid shore]

f

[naive basin]

thankfully you can adjust wattage in lenovo vantage

i can turn 105w model into 45w

or 75

vantage also supports core voltage offset

but i'll still probably use throttlestop with bios tweaks

[rigid shore]

gonna undervolt the heck out of the i5

[naive basin]

you would be surprised to know that the specs for the upcoming rtx 50 series are getting leaked

[rigid shore]

600 watts gpu incoming

[blissful tulip]

Not the sort of person to keep up with the latest tech, so I am surprised

[naive basin]

probably gonna push it down or cap it to 55W and then 75W for the gpu

i dont play anything heavier than destiny 2

no wuwa doesn't count

wuwa is just unoptimised

lmao

i can afford to lose like 50 watts of power

for a working laptop

all the mobo frying issues stem from super high cpu power draw

the i7 14700HX draws up to 165W

on a 160W cooling chassis

[rigid shore]

Huh

[naive basin]

yeah

just the cpu alone

165W

[rigid shore]

thas a Laptop???

[naive basin]

i've seen it draw over 90W

on valorant

[naive basin]

it's a desktop cpu shoved into a mobile form

[rigid shore]

E cores my ass

[naive basin]

the E cores on it draw enough power to power my room

thankfully it can only draw 157 for 28 seconds

[rigid shore]

Why didnt ryzen

[naive basin]

ryzen model is far more expensive

im working with approx 915 USD

this literally fell flat on like 920 USD

[naive basin]

but yeah since this works with throttlestop maybe like -120mv offset on P,E and core voltage

and then set PL2 to 55W

PL1 to 45W

and then cap turbo ratio to 45

[rigid shore]

remember when xx50 cards didnt use more than like 75 watts 😔

[knotty fiber]

The game uses too much RAM I might have to upgrade my laptop's to 32gb

16gb keeps giving me memory leak

[high rover]

if the game forces you to upgrade your unit, its a shit game fr

[rigid shore]

my ddr3 20gb 1333mhz can walk the game

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[naive basin]

no other game uses up to 32gb ram

if it's just a wuwa issue just wait it out

unless you also do professional tasks 32gb isn't necessary

[knotty fiber]

I have some other stuffs that need 32gb+ anyway

It's just I haven't had any reason to upgrade my laptop

[rotund drum]

hopefully they add framegen soon

[rigid shore]

they have to

[rotund drum]

i like watching people on reddit cry cause their 10-year-old gpus cant do framegen

like last gen hardware is fine in most cases and you dont really get much extra value for getting the newest thing

[rigid shore]

fsr3?

or dlss3?

[rotund drum]

but also dont expect it to have every shiny new feature either

dlss3

[rigid shore]

u need a 30 card atleast right?

[rotund drum]

fsr3 barely even works so it wouldnt even matter if they added it

dlss3 is 40 series iirc

2 is 30 series

[rigid shore]

there is that loseless scaling thing ive seen recently which is basically fsr 3?

[rigid shore]

HUH

no wonder peeps are mad

[rotund drum]

there are some hacks that let you use dlss3 on older cards but wuwa anticheat will probably block them

[rigid shore]

refusing to make the game playable

😔

[rotund drum]

ive tried lossless scaling framegen and it barely seems to make any diff

like i tried in dd2 cause that game runs at like 15 fps in towns even with a 4060

and it gave me like 2 frames

turned dlss3 on and it went to like 80 fps

[rigid shore]

crazy

[rotund drum]

you can see if anyone hacks dlss3 for older cards once they implement it for 40 series

but you might get b& lol

[rigid shore]

not riskin it

Sleepge

rx 580 ftw

gonna be with me till ends of time

[neat robin]

Is anyone else’s map markers being removed

I keep marking flautist & heron and the next day they’re gone

[kind turtle]

yeah i had that, and then it also threw the markers off the top left of the map

[small bronze]

is the intenstive training ending today as in today reset and tomorow there wont be one more?

[knotty fiber]

yeah

[small bronze]

why does my calcharo feel so weak

i have a 4* battlepass sword with crit and all his talents are 6

i must be doing something wrongg

[sterile swallow]

I blame his 2nd passive

Are all his echoes maxed? He should be able to wipe the floor with overworld mobs/bosses. Tower is a different setup since some floors favor AoE, which he lacks

Don't forget to level up his talents too. Should be a priority to upgrade for DPS once you finish using your 2x runs (today is the last day of 2x )

He does not need this. Devs please rework passive

[rotund drum]

he's just slow

so overworld mobs feel slow

most chars can just gank them by doing E > Q though

if its an elite you may have to do E > Q on a second char

[blissful tulip]

Low atk is likely the reason

Atk scales quite heavily in this game

God I wish they reworked his intro skill

[rotund drum]

his attack looks normal for ar40

[blissful tulip]

1.2k is rather low I think

[neat robin]

I may have done something stupid
But i hate echo farming
Foddered my jiyans cr cdmg heavy 1cost
Because I only want a cr er atk piece instead rn

[blissful tulip]

1.4k+ becomes more reasonable

[small bronze]

are we getting 18/30 this tower too?

[blissful tulip]

19/30

[rotund drum]

ar50 will probably take a couple of weeks

since linear increase each level

and no more free sources of xp

[blissful tulip]

We will get a speed boost from 1.1's content

[rotund drum]

so if you cant do 21 now that probably wont change significantly

[blissful tulip]

By around 3-5 days

[rotund drum]

1.1 won't be until after tower resets i think

[blissful tulip]

Next cycle is when 20+ stars become possible

[rotund drum]

it wont be enough anyway i think

[blissful tulip]

Right now, definitely not

[rotund drum]

msq + sidequests + chests will only be a few thousand

maybe half an AR tops

the resin refresh whales might be able to do it

not sure what they're at now

[blissful tulip]

Doubt it'll be that low imo, but we'll see

[rotund drum]

the last msq was 2000 xp iirc

[blissful tulip]

Resin refresh whales are already at 46/47

[rotund drum]

we're already at 10k+ per AR

i like how all the reddit whine threads are about echoes being too grindy but plz also let us use echoes as xp fodder

[small bronze]

issue is they are infinite

then they would have to limit echo drops

[sterile swallow]

There is a limit, except from bosses

[rotund drum]

"i just spent 6 hours farming a set piece and it sucks plz let me farm twice as much for xp fodder"

[small bronze]

what limit?

[sterile swallow]

Echo drops. At some point when you collected too much echoes in one day, they stop dropping from regular mobs

[blissful tulip]

Knowing Kuro, I think they'd listen to some of these requests

[small bronze]

i dont think there is a limit

i literally farmed it for hours

and it would still drop

[blissful tulip]

There is, it does exist

[rotund drum]

if there is a limit its too high to matter to most people

[sterile swallow]

I'm sure there is, ignoring bosses

[rotund drum]

unless you want to literally grind all day for trash echoes

just to merge

[sterile swallow]

Yeah the limit is so high. It wouldn't matter to most people

[small bronze]

then idk what the limit is cause im sure i farmed all the mobs from the electro data bank until they ran out

and i was still dropping

[sterile swallow]

But I received the notification one day saying "you have reached the maximum number of drops of the day. No more will drop" or something along those lines

[small bronze]

interesting

[sterile swallow]

The only exception are boss echoes, those will still drop no matter what

[small bronze]

they added the merge thing for getting rid of trash drops

i dont think they would remove that now that its a thing

[sterile swallow]

It might have been because I hopped on a friend's world and another random to farm their 3-cost wind/electro echoes

That was the only day I received that notification

[rotund drum]

might be on a per-mob basis

i know genshit also capped how many drops you could get from overworld mobs but it was something like 3x the number of mobs on the map

that was back in like 1.0 though so it might be just one map now

[floral bone]

the limit is for normal drops like for ascending and levelling the talents

the echoes still drop

[rotund drum]

genshit actually did let you farm overworld mobs for relic xp but that was too cancer so no one did it

there's more than enough elites on the map now that farming them all would give you a fair few fodder relics but no one is crazy enough to do that

[floral bone]

grey artifact route

only the real ones remember that shit

[sterile swallow]

Using your daily resin on artifact domains + the weekly artifact EXP from the teapot shop should help with your artifact exp needs in Genshin now. Plus you can use trash upgraded 5* artifacts to level potentially not trash artifacts

WWs needs a daily assignment system with echo EXP as one of the rewards. Praying for echo exp/farming rework on 1.1

[rotund drum]

wuwa does give a bit of echo xp in daily iirc

its about the same as what star fail gives

[blissful tulip]

2 blue tubes

That's not much at all, even in comparison to HSR

[sterile swallow]

hSR has daily assignments where you can get exp/weapon exp/credits as a reward

It accumulates over time. I would love WWs to have a similar system without having to talk to a NPC to claim rewards

[floral bone]

daily assignment is not needed if you get enough resources from normal gameplay, an extra daily menu for me to open? no please

[jaunty eagle]

Btw is there already sufficient consensus in WuWa as to whether 5 (4-3-3-1-1/4-4-1-1-1) or 4 (4-4-3-1) echos is the most effective way to build a character? Or does it mostly depends?

[small bronze]

does it not just depend on an element really

like electro always goes 4-4 cause of bost memphis

[sterile swallow]

That last one is definitely not efficient

[small bronze]

both*

[hollow gorge]

pain, and it was fucking necessary if you wanted to get early Abyss clears

[hollow gorge]

with the last one you lose out on 4-5 subs, and on a single main stat which is a huge loss

[hollow gorge]

4 33 11 would be the most effective in late game with CR weapons. 44 111 is effective for your in-game time. In the current economy you would get a 10% DPS loss for like 5x less time spent farming

[jaunty eagle]

Ah, so as I understand them; they are all decent picks, but 43311 has the best potential (If you nail the subs), 44111 is a decent placeholder and 4431 is basically just the economy pick for when getting a character viable fast is more important than growth capacity?

[hollow gorge]

you could say that

[floral bone]

44111 is the economy pick

[hollow gorge]

4431 is just a quick way to get good main stats and be viable, as you said

[small bronze]

4 4 1 1 1 with both crit dmg isnt good still?

[jaunty eagle]

It still kinda feels wrong that 4, 3 and 1 echos all need the same level of experience

[barren drift]

u miss out on dmg%

[hollow gorge]

maybe in the future, if we get more Ele DMG sources. For now 2x Ele 30% is just too big

[floral bone]

imo just dont do 4431

waste of time

[jaunty eagle]

Some 5 piece bonusses kinda doodoo tho

[hollow gorge]

nah 4431 is what you get farming for 4 33 11, so you waste zero time

basically, you just slap the best pieces you got

[jaunty eagle]

20% more echo xp is a pretty decent counter argument

The economy pick is definitely 4 artis of 2 sets, just get a good stat baseline

[hollow gorge]

Ppl just don't comprehend that 4431 is early game, 44 111 is mid game and 4 33 11 is late game, that is all.

[jaunty eagle]

4-3-3 also has the issue that to do it well....

You have to get 2 on-set elemental bonusses of 2 different echos and get good stats

[floral bone]

the true economy pick is 1 good set and weapon that 2 carrys can share if we wanna be really economic

levelling 2 diff sets early is kinda

[jaunty eagle]

I also feel like making the Rover a 4 echo set with one being the ATK part and one being the elemental part, so that I can just slot in 2 elemental echos when a new one comes out and take him for a spin

[hollow gorge]

personally, I don't play sets. I play 2x2x on DPS + 1 stat stick, which is Dreamless that I farmed for decent enough subs, because it is the easiest to farm

[jaunty eagle]

Yeah, sets are mildly underwhelming most of the time

Yet I can't help myself but slave for on-set pieces because I am a lost human being

[hollow gorge]

they are good, I just wanted to play Calcharo, Encore, HMC and Jiyan, and I would be insane to go for 4x 5 sets lmao

[floral bone]

ye thats the real early struggle

if you got those 3

[rotund drum]

i wonder if the tuneblast rate goes up linearly each AR

if thats the case then it should be like 30-35 at AR80

[floral bone]

whales are almost 50

[rotund drum]

which is pretty good

[floral bone]

we'll know soon

like saturday/sunday

[hollow gorge]

what's tuneblast

[rotund drum]

assuming infinite mainstat echoes from autism and you recycle any bad ones into the next one

you would basically get one tuneblast per 60 resin spent

or 4x a day once we're done with char mats

tuner blast

[floral bone]

i starting to have more tuners than what i can use cuz i just dont have xp to level them up to even tune them

i think i have 500 right now

[hollow gorge]

I don't have tuners (almost. Like around 150-200), because I never farmed Tacet Fields

[jaunty eagle]

yeh the fuck is a tune blast?

[hollow gorge]

I assume getting to a tuning point and spending a tuner, so echo exp + tuner, basically a combined value cost

[jaunty eagle]

Hmmm, I wonder which 5* weapon I should pick. Like, I am biased for a broadblade due to my DPS's being Calcherro and Jiyan and my intended pull for 1.1 being Jinshi, but I also feel like that is intentionally focusing on the short term

[hollow gorge]

well, it's either broadblade or sword

[floral bone]

i think thats fine

broadblade is good in general for those 3

unless you plan to grab a sig from either jiyan or jinshi

[jaunty eagle]

Nah

[barren drift]

my gut feeling camellya is a gun user

[jaunty eagle]

on the other hand, I have this inclination to just give my Rover the 5* blade because it feels right

[hollow gorge]

I would try for an early Jiyan weapon (like 10-20 rolls), if no Jiyan sig, then I would take a broadblade from the 45lvl container

but maybe this far into the game it makes sense just to wait for Jihnsi sig

I think it's CR

So I would roll for Jihnsi sig until I get it, and then just get a sword from 5* selector (if I were to play Calcharo, Jiyan and Jihnsi that is)

[floral bone]

too bad jiyan is gone before jinshi beta is done

[hollow gorge]

yeah, hard to predict. Jihnsi is either going to be mid or to be very versatile and very useful for the next year. And I am leaning towards the latter

[floral bone]

i mean mostly for her sig

[jaunty eagle]

Correct, 588 with 24 crit

[hollow gorge]

well, sig would be Bis for her likely, so if Jihnsi is going to be very good, that would make her weapon very good too

[jaunty eagle]

It will probably be incredibly dominant for liberation-heavy broadblade users due to its insane buff

[floral bone]

i mean mostly for optimization for those 3 specific broadblade units

like jiyan sig is gooder on him than jinshi sig is good on her kinda deal

[hollow gorge]

well, having any 5* is fine I think. But Calcharo and Jiyan will falloff a bit in the future ToA iterations

[floral bone]

yeah

for jinshi/future alone jinshi sig prob better

for now her sig is kinda clunky for me

[hollow gorge]

well, I got Jiyan sig, since there weren't any leaks about JIhnsi at that time, and I just wanted a 5* weapon at that time. Should be fine I think

Not optimal, but I think I will reach max possible stars for F2P anyway