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lament thorn
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yeah

knotty fiber
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nah there's no pick for 25% atk and fusion dmg

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she gets both

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cuz the has the one below

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When Changli releases Heavy Attack Flaming Sacrifice or Resonance Liberation Radiance of Fealty, Changli's Fusion DMG Bonus is increased by 20%, and Changli ignores 15% of the target's DEF when dealing damage.

cobalt apex
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also i think she has some weird rotation problems

knotty fiber
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permanent uptime for the 20% fusion dmg

cobalt apex
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since intro gives her an enflamement stack but she can only holds 4 maximum but ult also gives 4 and u want to use ult first

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its weird

knotty fiber
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yeah

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the cap is really annoying

cobalt apex
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it doesnt make sense for her combo

knotty fiber
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cuz normally there has to be some leeway for the stacks if she's gonna use them

cobalt apex
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if this doesnt get changed u'll just have to either throw away the 20% atk boost or a stack of enflamement

lament thorn
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damn

knotty fiber
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at this point

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I think she needs a fusion sdps

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dps doesn't work so well with her kit

cobalt apex
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fusion mc surely

neat robin
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Mort?

knotty fiber
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Mortefi is more like support like Xingqiu

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and his buff is RL dmg

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which is not what Changli generally wants

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either give her Fusion dmg or RS dmg

cobalt apex
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how much field time does changli want?

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since her optimal combo should involve ult + 2 heavys

knotty fiber
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probably that

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I haven't seen her gameplay in combat yet so I can't tell

fickle kernel
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how many stars yall have in tower

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@ f2players

cobalt apex
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12 since this tower hates havoc players

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havent tried again since UL 40 tho

fickle kernel
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reset in 6 hours might as well try if u can

cobalt apex
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idk tho the chasm guardian and havoc wolves have 50% res

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might not be possible to brute force it

fickle kernel
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im also hardstuck 12 at UL38

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just wondered how far behind i am

cobalt apex
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electro and jiyan players have way easier time with the current tower

fickle kernel
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ik i was considering leveling yanyang...

cobalt apex
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its just that the current tower doesnt fit havoc

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so nothing we can really do

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chasm guardian + res prob has the same amount of hp pool as dif 4 hologram

edgy cobalt
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most I can guarantee at next reset is 21 stars
maybe 24 if I get my shit together

fickle kernel
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jiyan haver?

edgy cobalt
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of course

fickle kernel
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okayge

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i dont feel as bad then i thought i was way behind

cobalt apex
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i can prob get 21 next tower

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since i can build cal yinlin by then

edgy cobalt
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someone here got 22 stars with him and his sig
I run him with his 3* broadblade

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I don’t see how anyone can get 15-18+ without jiyan tbh

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1.1 we’ll see the same but with jinhsi

cobalt apex
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maybe with 2 teams built

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cal yinlin and danjin main havoc

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u can

edgy cobalt
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don’t really see anyone with teams like that rn

cobalt apex
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yeah

edgy cobalt
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like two of them at once

cobalt apex
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ive only finished building danjin havoc mc

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enough dps to clear a dif 6 monkey but not 15* tower A_CryLaughTao

edgy cobalt
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I’m just content with my gamble build on havoc mc
wanted to build danjin but chix kept coming home so I’m demotivated

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I’m just gonna worry about holograms later I only beat diff 5 aix but didn’t try the rest

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permanent content btw

cobalt apex
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maybe i shouldnt have leveled all my echoes to +25

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if i put them all at +20 i would prob have enough leveled echoes for 2 teams

edgy cobalt
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that’s what I kinda did

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because I run jiyan and then havoc yinlin flex

cobalt apex
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i have a total of 12 +25 echoes

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couldve been 20 +20 echoes

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but whatever

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it is what it is

edgy cobalt
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yeahh mine is a mix

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ik one of my irls who should be at 18 stars like me without jiyan

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but he uses astrites to refresh and at UL44 now

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so he can hit 50 before next reset

cobalt apex
edgy cobalt
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im only at ul42

cobalt apex
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i should reach 41 today

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maybe 42 if i decide to 100% everything today

cobalt apex
vapid river
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why do these

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turn into this

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when you get closer

rotund drum
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its more that a lot of chars get their ult anyway without needing ER

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and others don't "need" it, its just nice if they get ult

knotty fiber
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That's the scenario when you fight against a lot of mobs

rotund drum
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but it wont cripple their rotation if they dont

knotty fiber
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A lot of mobs = a lot of energy regen

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Few enemies or even solo

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is a different story

rotund drum
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well im thinking encore for example

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she doesnt need ER since her ult charges so fast

knotty fiber
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Which is what I'm taking into account right now since the late floors are like that

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She needs some slight ER still

rotund drum
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jinhsi will benefit from having ult since hers does a lot but it'll also probably be every two rots at best anyway

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so she may not actually benefit from ER that much

knotty fiber
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Every char has a different threshold for ER that is

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For encore it's because she can spam her skill in ult mode and the skills have separate cooldown

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So she actually gains a lot of energy from skills

rotund drum
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jiyan definitely needs ER because he does precisely nothing without ult and his ult takes ages to charge

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so yeah regardless of the reason its pretty much safe to say encore doesnt really need ER

neat robin
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Rigged banner
After jiyan, lost 50/50 to lingyang
Got my yinlin when she released…
Tried jiyan c1 again… lost 50/50 to lingyang c1 😭

cobalt apex
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shouldnt have gone for jiyan

rotund drum
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lingyang is rigged rates apparently

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people noticed that on release

neat robin
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I was testing builds anyways

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If I got c1 I could go lower er
Turns out my er build (as of current echos) isnt worth swapping off anyways

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Like 50 dmg less per crit hit during his ult to just keep the er main & use my cr cdmg sub pieces

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But 16 more er

edgy cobalt
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2.5 weeks later I finally maxed the shop real

edgy cobalt
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their ults are always out of sync after two rotations

neat robin
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Oh my morte is always back before jiyan lol

edgy cobalt
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10% only from moonlit clouds

neat robin
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Wtvr I’ll suffer with it
I need to fix both 3costs anyways later on

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I used an er main on morte too but its lv10 still
He barely does any dmg anyways id prefer he gets ult back sooner

blissful tulip
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So it resets every 2 weeks after all

robust axle
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Thats .. surprisingly really good

opal venture
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It’s Kuro for you

rotund drum
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is wuwa saved

lament shuttle
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Doesn’t even guarantee either rate up character

sterile swallow
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Can guarantee weapon banner, or chance the character with a 50/50

blissful tulip
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I was expecting much worse

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But I also feel that it overestimates on a few things

cobalt apex
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depends on how many 5* chars they plan on releasing and how strong they are ig

fickle kernel
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where is this shop

edgy cobalt
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tiger maw mines or smth

edgy cobalt
blissful tulip
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Yes

night mantle
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characters are the content, let players have enough pull to get them every patch and if anyone wants to go above and beyond then they can pay.

blissful tulip
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Keep in mind that a lot of this graph is speculation, such as Kurogame mishaps, web events and achievements somehow being 800

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Expect less so that you'll be surprised when more comes due to one reason or another

night mantle
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yeah achievements is a little too high

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but still the quantity is really good

fickle kernel
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20 standard pulls a patch is rly nice too

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5* weapon every 4 patches

blissful tulip
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Assuming you have the starglitter for the standard pulls as well as the limited ones

dusty crown
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lost my 50-50 to s1 verina

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😦 😦

fickle kernel
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could have been worse

dusty crown
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in a way i avoided lingyang i guess

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and i guess verina s1 is more useful dans cal s1

fickle kernel
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why is the cryo standard unit always the spook

blissful tulip
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Von Lycaon is going to break the streak for sure

upper flare
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bruh the dude that gives me the upgrade mats is missing

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wtf

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kuro you alr?

ruby rune
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Have you tried restarting?

rigid shore
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no 2x mats

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LESGO NO FRAGILE RESIN USED

upper flare
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i prolly should

upper flare
rigid shore
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wym?

upper flare
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yeah that thing is missing

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imma restart and see ig

rigid shore
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no 2x mats still here

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i just

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meant none for u

upper flare
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bruh

rigid shore
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did he respawn

cobalt apex
upper flare
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nah i am on hdd, shits gonna take a while

rigid shore
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hdd bros

upper flare
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my ssd doesnt have enough storage smh

rigid shore
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imagine having an ssd

ebon jasper
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god i love changli

upper flare
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hold on wtf

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ITS NOT THERE

rigid shore
upper flare
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i thought oh shit

rigid shore
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maybe he's stuck on some quest

upper flare
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tf happened

cobalt apex
upper flare
rigid shore
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try checking ur quest menu

upper flare
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something called camp raid was there

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maybe that thing?

rigid shore
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what happens if u proceed with the 2x exp thing

upper flare
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still missing

rigid shore
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hmm

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maybe it is a quest try checking

cobalt apex
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prob a quest

upper flare
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yeah ig imma check it

rigid shore
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or maybe its one of the 200 bugs wuwa comes with

upper flare
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imma deal with it later

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shits wild

blissful tulip
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Only quest he's busy in afaik is Act 6

rigid shore
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80% chance for a 5 star

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what kind of bs is this

knotty fiber
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That's normal

rigid shore
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i thought 80% is high enuf to get 5 stars

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im getting db 21 for that 100%

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Wish me luck guys

lilac hare
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You lost the 20/80 A_HuPensive

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7K more exp for ul 40 A_HuPray

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I still have 26 fragiles left

cobalt apex
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even 30% is good enough C_TaoHehe

rigid shore
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cope

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surely theyll increase rates to 90% with 1.1

cobalt apex
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surely

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i farmed all my dreamless pre UL 30

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after that ive never touched them again

rigid shore
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wasted

cobalt apex
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not like it matters

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only took 1h to get 6 cr echoes

rigid shore
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4 stars cope

cobalt apex
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theyre 5* tho

rigid shore
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how tf

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didnt u need ul30 for db15 to take effect

cobalt apex
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u already have 30% pre UL 30

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isnt it

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or is it UL 35

rigid shore
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its ul 30

cobalt apex
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cause i remember there are db 15 18 and 20

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40 is 20

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is 30 18 or 15

rigid shore
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u can get up to 18 with ul30

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u only unlock 15-18 when u reach 30

cobalt apex
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so 15 is pre UL 30

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30% good enough for dreamless

rigid shore
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15 is ul 30

cobalt apex
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huh

rigid shore
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u cant get db15 bonus without being ul30

cobalt apex
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idr

rigid shore
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alot of people who had db 15 before couldn't farm 5 stars coz they were below ul30

cobalt apex
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oh yea

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so i farmed dreamless right at UL 30

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got it

rigid shore
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about right

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there is that enhanced bonus drop so its p cool

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altho its 15 uses

cobalt apex
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then i got db 20 for some reasons even tho i can only use 18

rigid shore
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yeah

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u cant get db20 unless ur ul40

cobalt apex
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50/50 chance was ass

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to farm 3 cost

rigid shore
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but 30 is ok?

cobalt apex
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dreamless is the easiest one in the game

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fortunately

rigid shore
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oh elites

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going around is painful

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one day id like to spend my days in tacet fields

cobalt apex
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i still dont have an electro% fautist on the electro set

rigid shore
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just use those thingies

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u got from the

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event

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thingy

cobalt apex
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if only they have fautist

rigid shore
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the anomaly event

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why would u do 4 3 3 1 1 anyways

cobalt apex
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?

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its the best one

rigid shore
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no need to min max for now

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just 4 4 111 gud enuf

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only electro and havoc can use it afaik tho

cobalt apex
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i dont like wasting mats on another 4 just to throw it away later

rigid shore
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i mean u can use it on a different character

cobalt apex
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not really

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cal uses atk

rigid shore
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we're still quite early game so just getting mainstats is gud enuf

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unless u have a crit weapon

cobalt apex
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nah i need the subs too

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since the return xp rate is only 75%

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tho low standard

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2-3/5 good subs is enough

rigid shore
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i mean good subs is gud but u dont need to stick your neck to farm them

cobalt apex
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i mean if i can farm smth that doesnt req resin i might aswell do it

rigid shore
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uh my point is ii recommend not bothering for time being

cobalt apex
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since resin is so valuable right now

rigid shore
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esp with 1.1 quite soon

cobalt apex
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since ill also get changli in 1.1 C_TaoHehe

knotty fiber
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I also get a few 3* during my echo farming but mostly 4*

rigid shore
lilac hare
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It is time

upper flare
upper flare
clear stump
rigid shore
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Echo exp

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Costs Waveplates

upper flare
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wait really?

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i havent done that quest yet

rigid shore
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Its the one on the events tab right?

upper flare
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yeah one sec

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lemme check

rigid shore
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It shows up on events tab but its not an event

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The silver echo trainer questline

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I think it was called

upper flare
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this one

upper flare
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silver haired close enough

rigid shore
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yeah

upper flare
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imma finish this up ig

clear stump
upper flare
clear stump
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Wait until ul30

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So there's a gold echo exp

rigid shore
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Oh yea

clear stump
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Then you use your waveplates and farm it

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It's a one time thing

rigid shore
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no u cant farm it its a one time

clear stump
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So farm to your heart desire

upper flare
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hmmm

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i am ul 32 but would ul 35 or 40 have better chances?

rigid shore
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well not like u really need it

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Nop

upper flare
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i could just not do it till 40

clear stump
rigid shore
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World only increase every 10

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On 40 yeah

rigid shore
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Damn

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Well i never claimed it myself

clear stump
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Yep I missed out on farming that too

rigid shore
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ive been fine just fine

clear stump
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Tacet field actually give lesser exp than that stage

rigid shore
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im broke on echo exp mats but oh well

clear stump
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So feels so wasted not farming it

rigid shore
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dam

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atleast tacet fields gives tuners and echoes too tho?

clear stump
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That's not the issue most are having

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I have plenty of echo with the right main stats and set, but no echo exp to check their subs

rigid shore
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well yeah u can infinitely farm

upper flare
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imma just wait till UL 40 to complete that and spend all my fragiles there ig lmao

rigid shore
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i wish there was a dedicated echo exp leyline thingy

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or atleast let us use lower rarity for fodder

cobalt apex
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just let us use the unleveled ones for fodder

clear stump
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Pretty dumb to not let us feed unused echo

rigid shore
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well i think it is better to just use those echoes and get more with the thingy in data bank

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but echo exp

cobalt apex
rigid shore
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😔

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i heard they reducing echo requirements to level up in 1.1

upper flare
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what

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wtf

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you cant

clear stump
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The rest of +0 is pretty much useless later on

upper flare
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damn wtf

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so what do i do with these extra echoes

hollow gorge
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it only good during 2x event

clear stump
hollow gorge
cobalt apex
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u dont have much of either

upper flare
clear stump
hollow gorge
cobalt apex
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simple as that

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u want both

upper flare
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should i do this at UL 32?

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or wait till like ul 40

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cause if unlevelled echoes dont do anything then

clear stump
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I did it at ul30

hollow gorge
cobalt apex
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yea it doesnt mean much

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converting only give random shits anyways

clear stump
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No point waiting. Right now im sitting on crap load of ele% 3 echo that i can't do anything since no echo exp to check its subs

cobalt apex
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well ur happy that u have ele% echoes at least

upper flare
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does the probability increase with higher UL or something

cobalt apex
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scales with databank

upper flare
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...i shouldnt have done this

barren drift
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shoulda saved those for >15 data banks

upper flare
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i maybe saced like 50 echoes

knotty fiber
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You're not at that point yet I assume

rotund drum
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fodder echoes actually arent that hard to get anyway

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if your farming target comes with adds you'll get a bunch of 1-costs along the way

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alternatively if you have multiple targets you can just skip teleporting around everywhere and instead just go to one of the zones with lots of mobs

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and just run around killing everything

small bronze
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is there a sheet somewhere

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how much energy cores etc

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it takes to for example 0-90 a character

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or a weapon

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or even better how much it takes for each 10 lvls? im curious how much i would need to lvl up jiyan 70-80

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later on

rotund drum
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if your question is whether to do char or weapon xp domain for the dubs bonus the answer is weapon xp lol

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i had barely enough to max all my weapons while i maxed my char levels with plenty of surplus remaining

rotund drum
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i forgot how annoying the exile bros were in tower

upper flare
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jiyan sounds so nice for grouping up enemies tbh

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every time i test him i am tempted to get him for some of the floors in the tower

rotund drum
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he's not

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the game really hates to let you retarget mid-attack so jiyan only really groups the mobs who are already right next to your target

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you can turn the camera away and double dash towards a different mob on the other side of the map and he will just turn around and attack back towards the original target anyway

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all the chars do this but its more noticeable with jiyan because you want the grouping

edgy cobalt
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you can deadass go from lvl 1 -> 60 with just 1-3* fodder

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also tiger maw shop gives you weapon exp and forgery mats

cobalt apex
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when does the x2 event end?

lament shuttle
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60-70 and then70-80 when we don’t get any weapon exp in the overworld

edgy cobalt
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was gonna say inb4

lament shuttle
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70-80 the 5* sword is 611k weapon xp alone

cobalt apex
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at some point when u have enough chars xp ull have to start farming weapons xp

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and even credit

edgy cobalt
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lemme recheck the reqs

lament shuttle
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70 is ul 40 and 80 is ul 50

edgy cobalt
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so you’re saying my 100 golds, 200 of purple/blue/greens ain’t shit

lament shuttle
edgy cobalt
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lets say 3-4

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I conveniently upgraded my r5 variation to 70 and all is well

lament shuttle
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I have 5* sword , yinlin weapon, and 1 more that we get at ul45

edgy cobalt
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ok
it may be the 5* weapons then cuz I don’t have any of them

lament shuttle
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So just that alone at ul50 I need 3m xp

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(I put the gun but idk what I’ll pick)

cobalt apex
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also that amount of credit

edgy cobalt
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I think credits are the main issue over char and wep exp if anything

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moreso the better prioritization

lament shuttle
night mantle
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credits and tuners are the most scarce things

lament shuttle
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Characters not the end of the world

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Since you’re not building 24 of them

edgy cobalt
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char exp is like
just farm echoes and you can nudge a lvl or 2 throughout UL40-50

lament shuttle
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While the exp for a new one is a lot

cobalt apex
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forte is also huge

night mantle
lament shuttle
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Idk they gotta give us way more

cobalt apex
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fully build a character from scratch at UL 40-49

edgy cobalt
night mantle
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1-70 -> 383k credits
70-80 -> 200k credits

cobalt apex
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now imagine 4 of them

edgy cobalt
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135 yellows or 337 purples to max out a 5* weapon is

night mantle
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why would you build 4 of them?

edgy cobalt
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ok

cobalt apex
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2 teams 4 weapons

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thats normal?

opal venture
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I only lvl up 5 star weapon

night mantle
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no I mean there is no rush..like build 1 whole team at a time

opal venture
cobalt apex
cobalt apex
night mantle
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yeah intro skill 4* ones are good

cobalt apex
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at 3 teams its 6 weapons

opal venture
night mantle
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can't you use the same weapons?

cobalt apex
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but for now no one is really building more than 2 teams

edgy cobalt
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By the time we can lvl up our weapons to lvl80 or even 90
the limited events will prolly get us covered

cobalt apex
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i cant just put my danjin's sword on cal

night mantle
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their are like 5 different types weapons right

cobalt apex
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yea

night mantle
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and mainly you would only upgrade your dps weapons

cobalt apex
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also some teams have 2 same weapon users

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like danjin hrover

night mantle
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yeah so 2 swords, 5* and 4* and then verina's weapon

cobalt apex
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and then cal broad + yinlin's rectifier

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thats 5 weapons

night mantle
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but they are already lvl70 right?

cobalt apex
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who?

night mantle
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weapons

cobalt apex
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danjin's and hrover yea

night mantle
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upgrading them to lvl80 won't give much buffs, only dps weapons should be focused

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since the cost is more then buffs

cobalt apex
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we'll see by then

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its still ~20+ days til then

night mantle
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if we do like we did in genshin..focusing on dps only then there shouldn't be much problem for credits

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plus new exploration and quests will be there for credits

cobalt apex
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the only problem is

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a lot of teams in wuwa do double dpses

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so both of them deal a considerable amount of dmg

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and cant just be ignored

night mantle
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yeah thats true

cobalt apex
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few exceptions are like jiyan mortefi

night mantle
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but its coz of characters low lvls, once we get higher lvls it won't matter much

cobalt apex
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but like in danjin hrover if u ignore either thats a huge dps loss which is E_OMEGARAZOR

night mantle
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I get what you mean

rotund drum
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i havent even gotten into my supergold char xps

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but im literally out of weapon xp

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if you built 6 chars for tower and are planning to get JS/CL and build new weapons for them you will probably be SOL

rotund drum
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finally got a havoc dmg tambourinist on havoc set

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now i can slack until danjin rerun

lament shuttle
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has anyone figured out how much ER verina actually needs

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is it 200, 220 or 250

rotund drum
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i think "needing" X ER in this game depends heavily on the comp

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plus no one knows how much actual energy a thing gives i think

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unless there's a datamine somewhere

rotund drum
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did we ever figure out how many times jianxin's stuff hits btw

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5000 word essay for her skills but it doesnt even say how much damage they do lmao

night mantle
rotund drum
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hopefully apologems

night mantle
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I demand 20pulls

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KEKW

floral bone
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a more important thing is her A4 pepeLa

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i swear i cannot get the 10% atk from it at all

night mantle
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the guy mentioned something similar

night mantle
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this looks fun

kind turtle
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People need to do comparisons of every language the second kits appear 😭

blissful tulip
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I've seen some JP players playing volleyball with this mechanic as well

edgy cobalt
lament shuttle
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Cuz that’s like ER sub stats on every single piece for 250% I think

edgy cobalt
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I'm running variation rectifier too so 250% for me is easy

lament shuttle
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I have it too

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But it’s not “easy” per say

edgy cobalt
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are you assuming ult every rotation btw

lament shuttle
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At least not at lvl 70

edgy cobalt
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my er% 3costs will probably not have er subs but my atk and healing bonus 1costs and 4cost does

lament shuttle
edgy cobalt
#

maybe lvl80 and lvl90 will be the ripperonis

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forgot that they can go up to 90/90 lmao

lament shuttle
#

Since ul60 is like 50+ days away atp

kind turtle
#

Is ult every rot verina actually necessary?

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Healing seems tiny compared to forte

lament shuttle
blissful tulip
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So that you can minimize field time and QtE faster

lament shuttle
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If the next healer

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Isn’t a

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Rectifier user

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That’s two ER weapons to build 🫠

blissful tulip
#

I doubt every support will be a rectifier, likely that the next one will be sword

knotty fiber
#

For me

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My Verina needs 0% ER

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Cuz I never take that much dmg to need healing from her ult

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Her ult gives no dmg boost for my team so it's a dps loss to cast it, more often than not

lament shuttle
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You want to proc the healing set and her ascension passive every 20 seconds

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And do so with minimal field time

kind turtle
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eq jn1 is enough for healing set and passive

lament shuttle
kind turtle
#

how is it not the fastest

lament shuttle
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Cuz you need to JN1

kind turtle
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and that can be done like instantly

lament shuttle
kind turtle
#

including ult animation?

lament shuttle
kind turtle
#

the point of having er

lament shuttle
#

What does that have to do with the outro

kind turtle
#

you also need to build the outro

knotty fiber
#

just keep photosynthesis stack, 1 jump atk and done lmao

kind turtle
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eq jn1 is half of outro gauge

knotty fiber
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cuz you need it to proc her 20% atk boost as well

kind turtle
#

r is like 20%?

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her biggest outro source is forte

knotty fiber
#

she needs to use her skill and pretty much dodge

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cuz the atk buff is whatever, too easy to obtain

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the hard thing is outro

kind turtle
#

yeah

knotty fiber
#

yeah her ult actually gives 20 concerto energy

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so it's something

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that's the only worth of her ult

kind turtle
knotty fiber
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not the healing bullshit

kind turtle
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finished before bell even finished casting

night mantle
#

I agree, if you are good at dodging you might not need much healing

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or any healing

knotty fiber
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I was dumb so I forgot that ult also gives concerto

blissful tulip
knotty fiber
#

but yeah, concerto is literally the only thing you want from her ult

kind turtle
#

but i'm not sure

knotty fiber
#

her dmg sucks
and you don't need healing in ToA anyway

night mantle
#

yeah

knotty fiber
#

💀 the healing set's duration is even longer than her atk boost passive

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and you need to switch to her once every 12s anyway

night mantle
#

I think I also mentioned here some days ago that switching to your supporters might be a dps loss in some situations coz the amount of time you will spend for buffs will not compensate for dps lost

kind turtle
kind turtle
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the last time i checked, encore solo was 1s slower than doing full buff uptime v ToAmephis

knotty fiber
#

yeah that's why you have to use her very efficiently
I kinda don't think I wanna use her ult when I use her tho

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takes time to cast

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this is not PGR, so RL doesn't have timestop

kind turtle
#

taking outro every 2nd rot just seems more reasonable

blissful tulip
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And attacking ults do timestop after the initial slow

night mantle
knotty fiber
#

I don't think it stops the timer?

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just the enemies

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Verina's ult

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I don't think it stops anything

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very vulnerable

night mantle
#

it will many times leave you in a situation where you have to dodge immediately after the animation ends or you get hit

night mantle
blissful tulip
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Everyone's ult has slight time slow I believe

knotty fiber
lilac hare
#

When is the tacet field event again?

night mantle
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verina is overall really bad resonator to switch to, her intro put her in air, her ult doesn't time stops, she needs a lot of time for buffs if not used properly

blissful tulip
knotty fiber
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my another big issue with Verina

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she mainly spends her photosynthesis thru aerial attacks

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but she can't aerial her skill

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it's so

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questionable

blissful tulip
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The early kit clunk is there on a decent amount of characters unfortunately

lilac hare
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Did they ever address the camera issue? It’s my biggest problem rn

knotty fiber
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I don't think they ever did

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it's also my biggest issue

blissful tulip
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Or they could have just classified it generally

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As "bugs and issues"

lilac hare
#

Hopefully they fix it

knotty fiber
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I ran out of stuffs to do in WuWa

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playing PGR rn

blissful tulip
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Same here

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Not enough DPS for holograms or extra ToA doritos

knotty fiber
#

I'm lazy to do this but I have to

lilac hare
#

I got to ul 40 hours ago, so I’ll just keep farming pokemon

blissful tulip
#

Oh well, at least the daily loop is interesting

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I've always preferred short 10 min loops that are active

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It's just 1.1 waiting room at this point, although it'll mainly depend on how large Waves' version of Dragonspine is

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It seems decent in size

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Snowboarding looks fun

night mantle
#

I want crownless hologram A_smolhutao

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and inferno rider hologram for all chixia mains 🙂

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they should know how cal main feels against mephis hologram

blissful tulip
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I'd be sad though A_HuPensive

knotty fiber
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there's a strimmer who keeps bitching about the game and say Chixia is the best character because she can macro, deals higher dps

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macro on Amber sounds like what Genshin had back then and got fixed in a patch

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hopefully they nuke that thing along with the slowdown glitch soon

blissful tulip
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I thought the slowdown glitch had been nuked already

knotty fiber
#

maybe I'm out of date

floral bone
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it was, but the chixia thing is still there iirc

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chixia problem is that she can anim cancel her basic atk string with the aim mode

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mortefi cant macro cuz if you click too fast he just spams his normal combo string

kind turtle
#

the gorou problem, but on a character who can actually do damage

floral bone
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so the macro doesnt work

night mantle
#

chixia is good though

blissful tulip
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Top tier for mobile players due to her simplicity, others have higher potential

neat robin
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Also range though

blissful tulip
#

It's less useful for more aggressive mobs due to how her kit works

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Especially apparent in Mephis

neat robin
#

True mephis is annoying

night mantle
#

yeah only downside is she can't do parry

neat robin
#

Can any pistol/rectifier parry?

night mantle
#

rectifier can but pistol can't

knotty fiber
#

rect can

neat robin
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Feels like ive only done it by mort/verina ults from the off field hits

night mantle
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And that's why I think it is less likely they will add a 5* main dps who uses pistol

blissful tulip
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Or outright give them parry somehow

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PGR's ranged cast can parry the same way with no issue

night mantle
#

only ways rn is to switch to another character and parry or use their intro skill

neat robin
#

Wouldnt be so bad if dodge counter was more dmg on pistols to make up for no parry

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Or something to compensate idk

barren drift
#

i smell a pistol character that parries in the future

knotty fiber
#

5.5k per hit at full buff

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but low crit rate

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I can't do Heron

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gotta need to up Mortefi

sterile swallow
#

I did Calcharo/Sanhua/Verina on the heron. Got 2/3

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Maybe if I build Sanhua up more or wait till UL50, I can get the 3/3

knotty fiber
#

I don't have any electro

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it's Jiyan carry

knotty fiber
#

@blissful tulip new Wanshi

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.

winged belfry
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Zzz?

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Or pgr

knotty fiber
#

PGR

hollow gorge
neat robin
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I can only get 17* could do 18 with a couple retries I think, those shields on echoing f3 are annoying

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Plus my horrible electro sets dont help

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1.2k def on cal, 1.3k def on yinlin 😭

hollow gorge
#

or that aerial attack would maybe deal more damage. Nope. Such a waste

rotund drum
#

i think you're supposed to just kill them before they cast the shield

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doesnt help that they all look alike though

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there's the generic goon and the knight who looks like just another goon except sometimes he jumps up

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and the sorceress and the gunner who's got the same model as the sorceress but with a gun

fickle kernel
#

are there any leaks about getting more constellations for havoc rover in 1.1?

neat robin
#

Weekly boss+ farming was successful (I havent rolled any of them yet wCoffee)

11/15 were gold
2 cdmg mains
5 cr mains

wraith steeple
#

just minding my business

lilac hare
#

Ngl I want yinlin’s weapon for encore

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I don’t want yinlin herself

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Even though I have calcharo

kind turtle
#

join the nation of stringmaster encores

lilac hare
#

I probably will yeah

knotty fiber
#

I lost 50-50 on Yl to Lingyang

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Not gonna get her if she denied me that harshly

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But I got her sig

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Cuz planning on using Encore for a long time esp with Changli

cobalt apex
#

someone should gift me an encore C_TaoHehe

neat robin
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o right

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Since I lost to lingyang c1 I can use selector for encore

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For my 2nd string lol

lilac hare
#

I didn’t know I had these

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Oh no I accidentally topped up the 1980 package C_HuPepeSmile

neat robin
#

I’m gonna lose my mind

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Electro farming is so bad

fickle kernel
#

hm i pulled 5* sword 6 pulls after 5* claymore

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now what do i select at 45 Tot

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why is the gun a support weapon

night mantle
#

gun I would say

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or keep it

fickle kernel
#

i need 4 good ones and i still havent dropped ONE

obtuse wedge
#

i have 5/5 echoes that are molten rift on encore, but for some reason they count as 4/5? im not getting the 5 echo bonus

outer jetty
#

Might be same echoes in a setup

obtuse wedge
#

they cant be the same? 😭

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thats so foul omg

edgy cobalt
rigid shore
#

Chixia

rigid shore
#

does this mean the story quests are considered events?

#

they go out once the banner is gone or what

upper flare
#

who should i build for the tower?

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heard you needed 3 teams

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baizhi and mortefi are lvl 40 now

rotund drum
#

you wont be doing hazard tower anytime soon

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unless you're a megawhale

rigid shore
rotund drum
#

so you only really need 2 teams

upper flare
#

i see

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no need for mortefi?

rotund drum
#

you dont have jiyan or jianxin

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he needs one of the jis to be worth

upper flare
#

damn heard he was the xiangling of this game smh

upper flare
rotund drum
#

lol no

cobalt apex
#

this tower is omega rigged without jiyan anyways

rotund drum
#

he's like the qiqi of the game

upper flare
#

💀 wot

#

did i just waste my exp

rotund drum
#

except qiqi does more damage and heals

#

mortefi has one specific comp he's good in and that's jiyan's

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literally a jiyan support

upper flare
#

damn

rotund drum
#

look at the mv on his ult CA

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you need to hit heavy attacks every .35s for it to be worth

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and theres only two chars who can do that

upper flare
#

F

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well its fine atleast i didnt level him up beyond 40

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relatively cheap to get to 40 ig

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what does danjin do

rigid shore
rotund drum
#

shes just a dps

rigid shore
#

danjin and havoc rover can brute force the left side i think

rotund drum
#

she has really good MVs on her skill and it has no cd

rigid shore
#

charcoal and yinlin right side

rotund drum
#

in exchange for burning all her health

neat robin
#

Omg finally
I have 2/10 electro set echos I need 😭
Its been a week

cobalt apex
rotund drum
#

shes basically quantum arlan

upper flare
#

ah i see

rigid shore
#

and they are so far away

cobalt apex
#

this mf

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  • havoc res
rotund drum
#

i used encore for those archers

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since she has teleports

cobalt apex
#

is so cringe

rigid shore
#

jianxin is so shit with her crowd controll too

rigid shore
upper flare
#

i am nowhere near that level atm

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just UL 33

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and like 3 upgraded echoes

rotund drum
#

i was able to get 17 stars at AR30 tier

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had to wait till 40 to get the 18th

upper flare
upper flare
#

so i just have skill issue?

rotund drum
#

theres no clear reward for just doing the stages normally either so you need to hit the 3-star thresholds

upper flare
#

or damage issue

rotund drum
#

probably a damage issue

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you should try to get your echoes up if possible

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work on your database

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try to grind it up to level 17 so you get 50% chance at gold echo drop

#

also farm bosses for their echoes and try to get crit rate mainstat

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gold with crit rate

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you dont have to spend resin on the boss mat, just kill the boss itself and afk for 2 minutes till it respawns

upper flare
#

should i downgrade world level for faster clears

rotund drum
#

nah

neat robin
#

Its dmg issue. As someone at ul40 I’m stuck at 17*

Making electro team is pain&suffering

upper flare
#

also on that topic, moonlight or void for yinlin

rotund drum
#

shouldnt take that long

neat robin
#

No keep world level high as possible

upper flare
#

hmm aight

neat robin
#

My electro% are still all horrible

#

My only 2 double crit subs so far

rotund drum
#

good enough

#

the tower isnt that hard

#

its mostly just a dps check to see how quickly you can chase down and kill the archers

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you dont really need electro for it

upper flare
#

the archers are very annoying

neat robin
#

Lib% would have been better for cal, but skill is great on yinlin

rotund drum
#

most of the whales i've talked to dont use calcharo cause he kinda sucks but you dont have anyone else

rotund drum
#

he should be good enough for f3 at any rate

neat robin
#

Cal doesnt suck lol

upper flare
neat robin
#

He has higher skill req than the others

upper flare
#

i picked calc cause i heard he had highest ceiling on standard

rotund drum
#

hes really slow and doesnt quickswap well in a quickswap game

neat robin
#

To keep dmg up you need to be doing swaps and his combos

upper flare
#

i thought you couldnt swap anymore due to yinlin in his team

rotund drum
#

yeah he's not good with yinlin either since his install takes too long

#

yinlin buff falls off midway

#

its like that lion fuckboy from genshit

#

i forget his name

#

the other electro guy who sucks

upper flare
#

we dont have electro guy tho

#

keqing?

rotund drum
#

no the limited one from sumeru

upper flare
upper flare
rotund drum
#

im drawing a blank on his name

upper flare
#

cyno?

rotund drum
#

yeah cyno

upper flare
#

shi i hate cyno

neat robin
#

His highest dmg is ult - swap to yinlin (hopefully have outro) - back to cal and do 3n skill 2n for another messenger
You have 2s after you ult & swap off with him to then swap back to cal

upper flare
#

should i have just picked encore or something

rotund drum
#

yeah

#

too late now though

#

dw about it too much

upper flare
#

man the entire chat back then scammed me

rotund drum
#

encore is the ez mode win char

upper flare
#

specifically asked who is the best one to pick

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mfs said calcharo

rotund drum
#

teleports, quickswaps, ranged dps for annoying hologram shit

#

she has it all

#

also not electro lol

upper flare
#

....i am tempted to just begin a reroll

rotund drum
#

we're getting two good limited dps in 1.1 anyway

#

might as well just wait

upper flare
rotund drum
#

there's no real content other than pushing levels of tower that nonwhales dont really have any business in anyway

#

i tried f4 and killed the boss with like 10 seconds to spare lmao

#

it has like a billion health

#

i probably wont be able to get 3 stars until i either whale for 5* weapons or hit ar50

upper flare
#

now i am becoming more salty about picking calcharo after this A_PainTao

neat robin
#

Cal is fine
Just need to have proper skills

upper flare
#

pain

upper flare
#

so idk if you even need skill to qs

neat robin
#

And yinling does dmg from off field so you arent swapping anyways for those ,, 5s

rotund drum
#

my whale friend who was trying hazard with yinlin wasnt even using her with calcharo

#

he was using encore lol

#

i think he only got 1 star though so its still sus

#

i think you have to actually be like space whale to get 30/30

cobalt apex
#

whales have even gotten 3 stars with solo yinlin lol

#

theyre whales

neat robin
#

Its funny cuz at least the calcs they used on pryd, s0 cal is higher dps than s0 encore
Team dmg idk

rotund drum
#

he said he didnt want to spend money on refreshes

#

i think he just bought 5* weapons

#

and there isnt much to buy atm

edgy cobalt
#

s6 yinlin can map wipe in one click

neat robin
#

Yinlin is so fun though

#

If I could whale like that id go s6 too 😂

cobalt apex
#

tower is so cringe with st units

rotund drum
#

honestly if wuwa cant even get whales to want to whale on their banners its probably over

#

yinlin helped a bit i think

#

the app ranking went up a lot with her banner

#

other than yinlin though there's literally nothing to spend on

#

all the standard cons suck and so does jiyan

upper flare
#

wait i thought jiyan was good

edgy cobalt
#

he is

upper flare
#

isnt his grouping really nice

cobalt apex
#

he is

rotund drum
#

not his cons

upper flare
#

oh just his cons?

#

i see

rotund drum
#

his c6 is mid as hell

edgy cobalt
#

s1 is good

#

anything beyond that is not worth getting

rotund drum
#

i would not spend $1000 for that mid-ass c6

#

yinlin's looks decent

edgy cobalt
#

you would not spend $1000 for almost every dupe

#

of one character

#

that isn’t yinlin

rotund drum
#

yeah thats what i meant

#

nothing for whales to whale on

#

hence no sales

neat robin
#

Its almst like in 1.0 theres only 2 limited chars so far wow

rotund drum
#

there's only ever 2 limited chars to whale on

#

just gotta make them good

#

JS's c6 looks busted at least

#

unless the text is wrong as usual

opal venture
#

Jiyan is easily best dps in game right now even in whale level what are you even talkin about

rotund drum
#

he just needs e0s1 mostly

neat robin
#

And its better to just wait on standard dupes as you lose 50/50s
Though the standard pistol on mort & sword for hrover/danjin is good rn

rotund drum
#

maybe e1s1

edgy cobalt
#

clearly encore with yinlin sig is the best dps in the game

rotund drum
#

its not a huge whale investment

upper flare
#

i still have my choice banner

#

but i would have to leave jianxin to get encore there

rotund drum
#

i would honestly just wait

upper flare
#

yeah thats what i am doing atm

neat robin
#

As long as you have verina

rotund drum
#

use your standard pulls on the weapon banner

upper flare
rotund drum
#

you'll get the standards by losing 50/50 anyway

rotund drum
#

being able to use standard pulls on a weapon focus banner is actually really good

upper flare
#

yeah i really bricked my account at the start didnt i

neat robin
#

No

upper flare
#

slight issue, i spent over 25 wishes at the start on the standard banner

rotund drum
#

in genshit you get like one standard weapon a year

upper flare
#

not even the choice

#

regular standard

rotund drum
#

yeah i spent like 50 rerolling on it

neat robin
#

You were pulling on standard char banner?

upper flare
#

i have 3 diff reroll accs, imma see the state of all of them

upper flare
#

they all looked the same

rotund drum
#

ideally you should reroll on the standard banner

#

then use the free pulls you earn actually playing on the discount one

#

then if you have everyone you want initially switch to weapon banner

#

you can do targeted banner if there's really another standard 5* you want but its overall not a great deal

#

encore/jianxin/verina should cover you for most things and jianxin is relatively optional

#

although shes decent as a second healer/subdps for tower

neat robin
#

I got cal off novice, verina from beginners choice, encore from free selector. then sword from weapon banner. Will not pull on standard char banner

rotund drum
#

honestly i like to shit on calcharo but i dont think he's that bad

upper flare
#

i have cal from selector, verina from the beginner and no one yet from the choice

rotund drum
#

he's better than most of the 4*s and the lion fuccboi at least

#

so he's like 3rd or 4th best dps

neat robin
#

Cal is good thats why

#

Just takes a bit to get used to his combo

rotund drum
#

depending on where you rate danjin and hmc

neat robin
#

I would say cal is more sustained dmg. Hrover is nuke

rotund drum
#

mostly his issue is that he's really fucking slow

neat robin
#

Hes supposed to be ulting
He aint slow then

rotund drum
#

like yeah do your sheet dps theorycraft cancel combo and die midway through it cause he cant swap or dodge without his dps going to shit

#

since he needs to finish his combo to get death messenger

opal venture
#

Sound like skill issue to me

rotund drum
#

you can do n1 dodge i guess lol

opal venture
#

I do swap cancel combo most time without issue

rotund drum
#

i cant even get encore n4 combo off reliably a lot of the time

neat robin
#

Regular you weave skill use into basics (he has the diluc? thing where it doesnt mess up na string)
The ult - swap - go back to cal. 3n skill 2n. Theres your 2 death messengers in like 5s

rotund drum
#

a lot of the bosses just go aggro on you

upper flare
#

so i have an account with jianxin and encore

#

i could put verina on the choice banner

#

imma check my other dead accounts

rotund drum
#

jinhsi looks pretty creep so im probs just gonna dump on her in 1.1