aint pullin yinlin
#・wuwa-lounge
rigid shore
opal venture
sterile swallow
Pulling for Jinhsi. Hope she gets more buffs in beta 
cobalt apex
ill prob skip jinhsi since my pulls are negative 
rigid shore
sterile swallow
Do 100% exploration and all quests. You get quite a lot of pulls
cobalt apex
well thats if i dont lose another 50/50
rigid shore
Do 100% exploration and all quests. You get quite a lot of pulls
Tru
opal venture
I was 100% confident to get mommy changli, then the leak with the dragon girl came
F you Kuro
cobalt apex
just get both
opal venture
cobalt apex
rigid shore
Dragon girl who?
sterile swallow
https://tenor.com/view/jinhsi-jinhsi-leaks-jinhsi-wuwa-wuwa-wuthering-waves-gif-17819008471735916812
opal venture
sterile swallow
Animation powercreep so real
opal venture
Whoever design this kit needs a raise really
edgy cobalt
ok how much whaling/lucksacking do you need to go beyond 18/30 stars on hazard zone cuz this is how far I can get and run out of time
cobalt apex
thats one quality image
rigid shore
i thought i was lagging
edgy cobalt
yeah it blurred out quickly when I tried to ss and its like lol your levels are too low like no kidding
edgy cobalt
4th floor yeah, with the exiles and then thundering mep
18 -> 21 may not be reachable for me this reset but the next one I can definitely chase for it
rigid shore
ok im not gonna give advice i cant even get past 1st floor on the left side
i heard tho peeps could reach 21 stars when they got ul40
edgy cobalt
kek its fine
cobalt apex
i need to fully build my 2nd team first
edgy cobalt
that's the thing if I'm hearing peeps going for 21 stars already then I'm getting fomo vibes
rigid shore
that's the thing if I'm hearing peeps going for 21 stars already then I'm gettin...
same
rotund drum
its funny that the electro 4-costs are just a pair of guys from memphis
rigid shore
im not pulling for anyone but i want to beat 21 stars too
edgy cobalt
like damn did I brick my account because I'm content with 18 and then you see probably not f2ps players at 21
rigid shore
possibly
i barely have 4 star weapons either
i heard jiyan is good for left side tho
edgy cobalt
me with jiyan and his 3* broadblade
cobalt apex
me with jiyan and his 3* broadblade
me with calcharo
edgy cobalt
yeah that's what I've been doing
erm him mort and verina
sterile swallow
Left side was made for Jiyan. He just vacuums everything
rigid shore
i thought i could abuse the floor buffs
edgy cobalt
if 1.1 does the same buffs but with spectro and fusion then wallahi I'm finished (have zero pulls for 1.1)
rigid shore
and use mono aero team
sterile swallow
You can also use Yangyang/Jianxin for floors 1/2 on left side too if you want to use Jiyan on one of the right side floors
The aero buff too strong 
It was funny seeing Jianxin become a DPS after transferring all of Jiyan's echoes to her
rigid shore
i only have 2 4 star gauntlets
an er substat one and a def one
i shouldn't have trashed those 3 stars
rotund drum
the ER one is good for jianxin
being able to spam hyper tornado makes up the dps loss
just quickswap her out if her gauge isnt charged
sterile swallow
^^
rigid shore
the ult circle is so small i cant see when its full
edgy cobalt
@sterile swallow how'd you run 22 stars
sterile swallow
I was hoping I could 2 star the middle tower with Calcharo. Nope can't even 1 star it 
Too much HP 
sterile swallow
He's hot so I pulled. It's funny how he can suck mobs during ult too
edgy cobalt
I mean I pulled him too cuz I wanted danjin and mortefi dupes and made the most out of him
sterile swallow
Built in Venti. Yangyang or Jianxin are good for the electro side if you needa someone to cc
Because floor 3 on the right side sucks with the two elite humans jumping everywhere
edgy cobalt
he'll easily stay in meta for a while unless they release a jiyan clone but better
yeah man the girl and the dude that are just jumping around are annoying
sterile swallow
What we need is another Verina, but better
lilac hare
I lost my 50/50 on yinlin’s banner, got c1 verina now
edgy cobalt
could've been taoqi but her s6 was bugged after all
sterile swallow
Not enough support in this game 
lilac hare
Pity 71 damn
edgy cobalt
I lost my 50/50 on yinlin’s banner, got c1 verina now <:A_GaspTao:10982663300015...
suffering from success you just need s2 now
sterile swallow
I was able to get both Jiyan and his sig with 70 pulls. Hoarding for Jinhsi now
lilac hare
I use calcharo as well, will probably keep pulling and hope I get her 
edgy cobalt
I didn’t read past her c1 ngl
her skill gives 10 extra concerto energy and an extra forte bar (which is technically more concerto energy)
sterile swallow
I wish Calcharo's s6 was his s1
Just needa lose 50/50 to him six times
rigid shore
lilac hare
her skill gives 10 extra concerto energy and an extra forte bar (which is techni...
Yeah that’s good
edgy cobalt
the only good con/eidolon/sequence among standard units
rigid shore
thank you genshin/starrail/wuwa
edgy cobalt
well her s4 is also good if you're running spectro comps aka jinhsi upcoming
but its s4 so
imagine being that unlucky
or lucky
grim grove
how close to lvl 40 is a day 1 player who didn’t spend any of the 60 energy item?
edgy cobalt
I still have my 2 selectors saved so I can only go for s3 verina KEK
rigid shore
how close to lvl 40 is a day 1 player who didn’t spend any of the 60 energy item...
im close to 39
i havent done yinlin yet
i have 44 of those fragile resins?
grim grove
so im about 5 levels behind
rigid shore
my entire area is also 100%
except jinzhou at 98% coz idk where the fuck those chests are
i swear they're hidden in some quest but i dk which quest i havent done
opal venture
I heard some maps have bugs they cannot show 100% exploration
rigid shore
oh that was before
central plains and wuming bay would only show 99% and 98% respectively
now they fixed it
opal venture
Oh nice
grim grove
i don’t think I have the time to explore much or do world quests
hopefully tomorrow I reach lvl 35
for those standard pulls
sterile swallow
There are some chests locked behind that grappling minigame
rigid shore
grappling minigame?
sterile swallow
You have to go to each gate and redo it once you complete the questline
Yeah the one that tells you to use the grappling hook
rigid shore
You have to go to each gate and redo it once you complete the questline
wat the
rigid shore
how close to lvl 40 is a day 1 player who didn’t spend any of the 60 energy item...
havent done my dailies and the double event yet
sterile swallow
It's the quest where you have to use jumps/grappling hook to get to a location
Like a challenge, except you can't touch the floor
edgy cobalt
yeah 21 stars ain't happening lol
opal venture
Wait why I cannot upload pic or video here
edgy cobalt
rank up some more
opal venture
yeah 21 stars ain't happening lol
Have you reached UL40 ?
edgy cobalt
yeah
opal venture
edgy cobalt
I mean I've been at 18 stars since UL30-40
sterile swallow
opal venture
Im 18 also but still UL38
sterile swallow
I was stuck at 18 stars UL 30-39
sterile swallow
Jumped to only 22 stars after UL 40.
edgy cobalt
is kinda a yikes
you running any 5 star weapons or anything?
my jiyan is still on his 3*
sterile swallow
But we don't have lv90 characters yet and maxed talents so we are still disadvantaged
edgy cobalt
yeah it'll all be easy once we hit like UL60
rigid shore
https://youtu.be/IhTNoVLkmow?si=tgeWv7LjD01FPbiu
ill check it out
opal venture
Tower is pretty much dps check same as genshin abyss
Hologram is much fun imo
More pain also
edgy cobalt
toa and holograms will be easy once we hit true endgame anyways
sterile swallow
I was able to get both Jiyan and his sig with 70 pulls. Hoarding for Jinhsi now ...
I have Jiyan's sig
edgy cobalt
it'll just be easy like genshit abyss after half a year
edgy cobalt
I have Jiyan's sig <:A_HuTaoWew:836846987285364736>
lucky mfer (I can't complain cuz I had ok luck)
opal venture
Yeah but knowing Kuro they will soon push out harder content for us
sterile swallow
I like the holograms exempt Memphis. I hate it
edgy cobalt
think if I get the 5* standard broadblade then 2 stars is gonna be a motive
and then trying to clear heron kekw
so next reset it is gg
opal venture
I like the holograms exempt Memphis. I hate it
Me with only electro build:
rigid shore
Yeah but knowing Kuro they will soon push out harder content for us
i heard pgr gave out free five stars
sterile swallow
You would think Mephis would be fully vulnerable after a successful parry/fully depleting his gauge
sterile swallow
But his clone lasers you off screen
opal venture
i heard pgr gave out free five stars
Yes I played PGR before, they also give many freebies
opal venture
And their anniversary is huge unlike some other games
sterile swallow
We do get free 5* standard weapon selector at Lv45 too 👀
opal venture
Also there was the Nier collaboration
sterile swallow
Sword for havoc rover, or gun for Mortefi
opal venture
Sword for havoc rover, or gun for Mortefi
Sword all the way
Since we have more sword users now so you can share
edgy cobalt
pgr gives free 5s
hi3 gives free 5s (I think)
maybe we'll get 3 pulls from kuro in 3 years for wuwa trust
opal venture
sterile swallow
500 premium echo exp+tuners for successful launch?
rotund drum
they should do a BA collab with 5* neru
uneven flame
Stringmaster (Yinlin's weapon) seems to only have 2 ATK buffs instead of 3. Can only get one from the resonance skill on field and the other while off field after getting the first. The description makes it seem like you get two from using a skill twice and another from being off field but that wasn't the case.
karmic crag
small bronze
do we have any ideas which banner will be first in 1.1?
rigid shore
changli then jihsi?
ripe pollen
changli then jihsi?
jinhsi first iirc
blissful tulip
Jinshi then Changli likely
blissful tulip
Yes
rigid shore
ruby rune
jiyan mortefi
havoc rover encore
who gets verina and who gets baizhi
for last slot
opal venture
who gets verina and who gets baizhi
Best to use Verina in team with weaker dps to boost them, since baizhi buff is bare minimum
rigid shore
i would put verina with jiyan and baizhi with hmc
coz you would group the enemies easier with jiyan making verina's coordinated attack deal dmg to every single one? i think. maybe. purely assumption tho
keen aspen
am i cooked or am i cooked?
keen aspen
....
blissful tulip
Curious to see what the average pull income will be after the first batch of bug fixes and preregistration rewards
The standard pulls post union level seem unbelievably scarce
rigid shore
wish they gave either from leveling ul up or ascending characters
blissful tulip
The event pull amounts also seem just alright, depends on how Waves will handle 1.1 events
night mantle
how do you guys dodge hologram heron's feather blast?
when it puts feathers on the ground and then they blast
blissful tulip
They do not have a dodge indicator but you can still iframe through them via dodging, it's best to run to the side or save a supportive ult for iframes
It only does this attack once
night mantle
maybe but at lvl 90 its does that 6-10 times
blissful tulip
Dif 6 adds the feathers after certain attacks, mainly the plunge and the suck and peck
They appear near the Heron rather than near yourself, although I used Chixia for the fight so I had an easier time
cobalt apex
only 1 healing bonus 
night mantle
only 1 healing bonus <:C_HutaoYEP:856821234657525780>
tbh its not need anyway
most of the bosses will kill you in 1 hit
blissful tulip
Eh, not true
cobalt apex
only the hologram ones tho
blissful tulip
1/2 dmg reduction is huge
cobalt apex
not in tower
blissful tulip
Can survive some attacks even at Dif 6
And turtle + transformation hologram means you take 0 damage
cobalt apex
and even in dif 6 yea
blissful tulip
Which can cheese some of the more difficult attacks
I'd argue that the turtle is the best echo in the game
Its bonuses are essential for both survival and damage
night mantle
yeah then the atk one is better
if you talk about tower, then there you have time issue rather then Survivability
cobalt apex
yea cause we're in week 2 of the game
theres no way for us to have enough dmg yet lol
night mantle
I am not saying turtle is bad, just that grinding for healing main stat which doesn't affect much is waste
cobalt apex
not like theres much to do
when ur time gated by echo xp
u can only either grind echoes or 100% the map
night mantle
yeah that's ture
knotty fiber
How is atk better
When Verina and Baizhi deal next no no dmg compared to the dps and sdps
night mantle
rn when we are low leveled, every second we spend on a supporter we lose dmg
I did the hologram monkey 6 with only chixia and with chixia and verina. Here only chixia one finsied early
knotty fiber
The what
Idk how you play the game but that's ridiculous
I don't even lose 2 seconds on Verina every time I switch to her just to get 20% atk and 14% dmg deepen and 10% dmg bonus
knotty fiber
Also going duo is 💀 where is intro/outro gonna come from 
night mantle
I just do jumps atks and use the outro, but next time its no use I have to wait for ce to build
night mantle
still it was bad for me
or maybe you have your verina build
I have lvl0 echos on her no upgrades
though she is lvl60 and talents
cobalt cobalt
I’m kind of sick with how much fanservice wuwa has 
why does every single character we meet love us so much we are literally a blank slate our personality is in the negatives
night mantle
I’m kind of sick with how much fanservice wuwa has <:A_HuTaoSip:8033377625975029...
their animations convey emotions very well
cobalt cobalt
You’d think some of these characters would have higher standards than this
cobalt cobalt
their animations convey emotions very well
Personality and good animations aren’t the same thing
If someone were to ask the MC what their favourite food is they wouldn’t be able to answer, it’s that sort of thing
night mantle
oh I get what you mean
cobalt cobalt
I guess Im just not someone who likes being constantly showered with love from literal strangers
upper flare
You’d think some of these characters would have higher standards than this
as for people liking the mc, perhaps its cause all of them think the mc is some kind of chosen one or something
cobalt cobalt
upper flare
i mean...
cobalt cobalt
But the dialogue was talking about how she kept blushing and getting embarrassed while trying to heal us
upper flare
wat
cobalt cobalt
I don’t want all this fanservice
cobalt cobalt
I’m not sure what specific line it was but I clearly remember her saying it because it pissed me off
Kind of creepy
upper flare
hmm i cant quite remember that, i only remember the bit about cpr
cobalt cobalt
No that was a different line
upper flare
I’m not sure what specific line it was but I clearly remember her saying it beca...
idk maybe it was mild cause i really cant remember it
cobalt cobalt
Hold on let me try and find it
upper flare
sure
cobalt cobalt
sure
Excerpt from the tutorial quest
Girl be professional you should not be blushing while giving an unconscious person a medical checkup
upper flare
ah....
cobalt cobalt
It’s just a heap of fanservice whenever anyone talks to rover 
like I get it rover is super cute but not so cute that this is level of fanservice can be explained away
olive osprey
Other than pins, are there any aggregate docs for wuwa TC? Im not seeing a wuwa echoes optimizer and want to build one myself, but i need to know how to do the dmg calcs with buffs etc etc
blissful tulip
how much dmg do u need for dif 6 lmao
Lots
barren drift
HE DID NOT SAY THAT
cobalt apex
can confirm he definitely didnt say that
dense elbow
Other than pins, are there any aggregate docs for wuwa TC? Im not seeing a wuwa ...
Afaik theres not which is specifically why i pin stuff here, if theres anything else you want added to pins tho lmk and ill check it out
cobalt cobalt
Yeah he didn’t say that
I picked the male rover and he says the exact same dialogue also he just giving us his seed
Wholesome slightly sad scene
rigid shore
why sad
blissful tulip
I did the hologram monkey 6 with only chixia and with chixia and verina. Here on...
6? How'd you have the damage?
blissful tulip
Ah 
barren drift
that one unemployed friend :
blissful tulip
Twitter
cobalt apex
barren drift
hmmge
blissful tulip
None afaik
kind turtle
cobalt apex
dragon and birb
cobalt apex
stocked how do u feel about jinhsi and changli kits
kind turtle
havent read them
cobalt apex
i see
kind turtle
wtf is this nightmare of highlighted words
frozen summit
cobalt apex
wtf is this nightmare of highlighted words
ok thats true reading wuwa kits is very ass
it took me like thrice the time for me to fully understand their kits compare to genshin wording
and genshin wording is already terrible
kind turtle
why the fuck does her very first description have ground basic attack stage the true sight 😭
at least genshin eases you in with the NA string
cobalt apex
so in wuwa they have to differentiate ground na/ca and air na/ca 😭
and they also have different scalings 
like why
kind turtle
from what i've seen of the animations, if it didnt say changli or fusion damage i'd have mistaken it for jinhsi
cobalt apex
also even after reading it a few times there are a few things i still dont get
idk if they are translation error or just wording error
or im dumb
but yea
kind turtle
i... i think it means she has 2 E charges?
cobalt apex
but then what is tripartite flames?
is it just the name for all the true sight stuff?
kind turtle
tripartite flames is the name of her skill overall
her skill has subsection TS: Capture, which is the only indication of her skill's CD
kind turtle
yeah capture is navia E but the geo infusion lasts 12s
but wait
if she NAs it ends
so
whar
cobalt apex
it ends so u get the "enflamement" thing for CA
kind turtle
R CA E NA
you end with 1 stack
cobalt apex
yea
kind turtle
then E NA again
kind turtle
ok the only relevant part of this kit i feel
oh her intro puts her into true sight as well
so if you R on entry, you waste a stack
cobalt apex
yea
kind turtle
cobalt apex
they really want u to do R CA before swapping out
stocked how do u think this atk boost work
for the CA itself only or for CA and everything after that
kind turtle
intro 2(Ena) n5 CA r CA outro
cobalt apex
stocked how do u think this atk boost work
cause if it works after the fiery feather ends
R before swapping out is bricked
kind turtle
no duration is listed, my best guess it's until swap out
yeah that's why it has the problem
cobalt apex
bricked kit
kind turtle
i assume saving solvents
cobalt apex
no im just too lazy to 100% world
but ig now that i used all my pulls i cant dodge it anymore
cobalt apex
i also spent most of my time just doing echoes
but now that i have too many extra echoes it doesnt matter anymore
and ive accepted that i cant clear the tower because havoc is hated in there apparently
rigid shore
Really though it was sad
i wasnt paying attention to the story coz it was a male
cobalt cobalt
||He was talking about how he trusts us and loves all his dead men and wants us to plant his flower when he dies||
rigid shore
oh yeah i remember smth about that
cobalt cobalt
||And are two options are to promise to plant the seed or to say “I won’t let you die” which is stupid but also sad||
||Like how can you prevent the inevitable dumbass||
And my wuwa connection cut out mid quest so I had to replay that scene a second time
rigid shore
lmao
cobalt apex
And my wuwa connection cut out mid quest so I had to replay that scene a second ...
the timing
cobalt cobalt
Ong
It’s rough out here
My poor rover short circuited he couldn’t find the right words to say
Anyway I picked “||I won’t let you die||” because I feel like that’s something my stupid rover would say, otherwise why would he have even considered it an option
Kind of felt like a proposal scene but I think that was just the translation team running wild
outer jetty
Tommorow I can finally reach 40 UL. What a pain
neat robin
Is anyone keeping track of pulls
cobalt apex
what do u mean?
neat robin
Because I still havent hit over 70 pulls to get a 5* (3 chars 3 weapons
neat robin
what do u mean?
Like if theres soft pity
burnt shoal
and ive accepted that i cant clear the tower because havoc is hated in there app...
wait wat wuwa abyss is anti havoc?
wuwa so scam
made havoc rover op for that
cobalt apex
wait wat wuwa abyss is anti havoc?
no there are just some elite havoc res enemies in there
and i cant get them since i play danjin havoc mc
burnt shoal
ohhh
neat robin
I cant clear electro half because of my x2er yinlin 
I could get 18 maybe ~20* if I had an actual build
Between cal and yinlin who suffers less by using 4 4 1 1 1 build
cobalt apex
also no aoe char built is so painful
burnt shoal
do you guys think jiyan will be powercreep soon
neat robin
Unless they put out an aoe cc aero, who also does crazy single target dmg. No
Ive been saying jiyan plays like cyno idc what he looks like
But there is no hyperbloom to compensate for low single target damage for jiyan
night mantle
6? How'd you have the damage?
lvl 70 S6 chixia with crit weapon KEKW
neat robin
I’m gonna grab the pistol once I hit ul45 (long ways away from that lol)
But for mortefi
burnt shoal
is mortefi still the best 4 star when you scale everyone to s6
idk which 4 star to build
night mantle
night mantle
idk what her teams are tho
solo KEKW
burnt shoal
ohhh
neat robin
Hmmm maybe
I can just swap the pistol around
Wont have echo exp to build a fusion set before ul45 anyways at this current rate
She was on jiyan banner right? I think I got mine to s5 or s6
night mantle
yeah, you can actually swap your echos and weapon btw chixia and mortefi
neat robin
Nah morte has moon set
night mantle
S5 is must to unlock most of the potential at lvl 70
blissful tulip
lvl 70 S6 chixia with crit weapon KEKW
Oh, S6, okay 
She's S2 to me so I'm locked behind sequences
Despite a near impeccable build
night mantle
ahh S5 is the most important I would say tbh
these two combine at lvl 70 and give her huge boost
blissful tulip
Wonder when she'll rerun next time 
night mantle
She's S2 to me so I'm locked behind sequences
I wish you had S6, this crit rate + dmg is really good
blissful tulip
ER as well
night mantle
her skill blast after 30 bullets always crits, so the more the cd the more the dmg
blissful tulip
How much damage do you do maximum with your lib? With Yinlin + Verina buffs she can do 2k per ult bullet and 36k final
barren drift
all these chixia selling might make me raise her
night mantle
never ran her with yinlin, will check
blissful tulip
Verina cycle, outro to Yinlin, Yinlin cycle, heron and outro to Chixia, Crimson Rider, ult
Easiest to test out in ToA
Buffs of the turtle and heron stack
5pc healing on Verina and 5pc energy on Yinlin
night mantle
Verina cycle, outro to Yinlin, Yinlin cycle, heron and outro to Chixia, Crimson ...
crimson rider, then 30 bulllets and blast (30% atk increase) then ult
night mantle
basic atks?
basic atks before skill - 500-600
skill - same as basic
after skill basic goes to 0.8-1.2k
although I don't have as good as you build tbh
blissful tulip
Fair enough
night mantle
also the above thing is without crits
I see some jumps in between when crit happens
karmic fox
Just finished chapter 6 of the main story (had a blast in battle experience). Does it only get worse from here?
knotty fiber
considering Changli's downtime, I'm not sure if Encore or Chixia is gonna be better
kind turtle
Just finished chapter 6 of the main story (had a blast in battle experience). Do...
it's hard to tell
considering
there isnt any more
knotty fiber
New area and probably story too in 1.1
karmic fox
Oh I meant the stuff left to do during 1.0
Like doing side quests/world exploration/misc grinding
ruby rune
took me a week but I finally cleared these 2 bitches
cobalt apex
barren drift
the double herons?
ruby rune
WE RIOT
barren drift
i think i have too many cases of dmg% on wrong sonata
cobalt apex
i love monke
cobalt apex
(even tho i dont have jiyan)
barren drift
kind turtle
coping about 4*s 
barren drift
genshin made me trash everything that has 2 missrolls
cobalt apex
kuro let me convert 5 of them into a 5* tuner please thx
barren drift
truege
cobalt apex
why is electro set the worst set ever to farm
neat robin
Cuz only 2 3costs
neat robin
If I dont find an electro today I’m gonna put
Cal I think
on 4 4 1 1 1
cobalt apex
kuro balance the mobs!
neat robin
Yinlin can take the electro%
barren drift
used this for daily route
also its nice that resonator mats refresh dailyu
unlike genshin
neat robin
I need to fight the last few red mobs
But the only 3 i have left are ones that have 3-4 enemies
barren drift
the fractsidus reds are kinda ass to get to
ruby rune
used this for daily route
wait the spider car is also aero?
barren drift
wait the spider car is also aero?
yeah aero and ice
barren drift
i think u mistaken autopuppet for the chaserazors
they kinda have the same spider ahh look
ruby rune
no I wouldnt cus i know autopuppet is the dragon looking one
and the chaserazors scared the crap out of me
cus I have arachnophobia
barren drift
lowkey they kinda freaky
ruby rune
and I just saw this fcking car have legs
cobalt apex
If I dont find an electro today I’m gonna put
Cal I think
on 4 4 1 1 1
cal can just use the atk set no?
neat robin
I dont think I have electro% for atk set either
cobalt apex
sadge
neat robin
Ik I dont have a cr mech for sure
I should farm one. Worst case is you get a cr mech, 2 atk% 1cost. And then 2 dmg% for each element and swap the set around for each dps 
cobalt apex
grinding electro% for yinlin is so painful
especially with the fact that their population is basically nonexistent
barren drift
raid other players
barren drift
i just E jiyan on everything
cobalt apex
i love having 2 dreamless to clear stuff too much
also jiyan overworld without ult is
blissful tulip
Really wish they reduced the SFX at points, it makes seeing the Boss' attacks annoyingly difficult
neat robin
especially with the fact that their population is basically nonexistent
I killed every flautist yesterday and (other than no electro) every single one was purple. 
cobalt apex
do i keep going
neat robin
If it goes crit next its great for cal 
if you like risk
neat robin
Nah
blissful tulip
@night mantle S6 really does seem to help, can't beat Dif 6 monkey otherwise, you could have full set tbf, I only have 2pc fire and the rest are off pieces due to good substats
Think I'll be able to easily beat it once we reach UL50, for the time being, there's no rush
sterile swallow
I wonder how many days it will take to get from UL40 to UL50
Anyone do that math yet?
night mantle
<@685458391216160808> S6 really does seem to help, can't beat Dif 6 monkey other...
yeah set gives more fusion dmg on skill use, so its like more dmg overall
sterile swallow
Rip. Almost a month of my people being stuck at lv70
blissful tulip
27d from 41 to 50
Not to compare, how long did it take to unlock lv80/90 in Genshin?
Just out of curiosity
night mantle
I am at 40 and this is how much days I need without any new quests, just based on dailies and resin
not counting solvents
sterile swallow
And also the current 2x event and future 2x events
sterile swallow
1 month for UL50, and 2 months for UL60
oak copper
off to a good start
night mantle
this is an awesome jiyan piece
sterile swallow
Give that to me 
cobalt apex
damn that piece
sterile swallow
Me trying to get 3-cost ele dmg echoes for both Calcharo/Jiyan with both cr/CD and ER 🪦
night mantle
that's hard as f
sterile swallow
So hard. The 4-cost echoes are better
cobalt apex
thats one hell of a standard
night mantle
electro 3 cost with good main stat is already worst compared to any set
sterile swallow
Ok maybe not cd then. But at least cr and ER
sterile swallow
Since for whatever reason, cr is so elusive
oak copper
Its really weird that they started off with 2 Electro 4 cost drops Bosses but only 2 3 cost Elites
night mantle
most sets has 3 3 cost echos but electro has only 2 and both of them are already hard to find
cobalt apex
welp time to start raiding everyone for electro echoes
cobalt apex
i want those
clear stump
most sets has 3 3 cost echos but electro has only 2 and both of them are already...
Not only that they're so far away from each other you ended up spending more time on loading screen then killing them.
cobalt apex
with how much cd
sterile swallow
I think 80% Crit damage?
cobalt apex
isnt that perfect ratio
sterile swallow
But if both of those echoes had a medium Crit rate roll
cobalt apex
my best built char is danjin and shes only at 50/95
sterile swallow
He could have been at 56% cr instead of 40%
clear stump
Is that thundering you're using?
sterile swallow
Yes. I can't replace it since the subs are too decent
cobalt apex
just use fautist as main
sterile swallow
True. I prefer the faster animation
cobalt apex
unswap cancellable echoes are
sterile swallow
I just like it for overworld farming purposes
It lets him teleport and then I can get out of it
clear stump
I used to think you only need the first hit. Imagine when i found out you need to use the whole 4s animation to get the buff. : 🤮
cobalt apex
first hit was bugged with skin
sterile swallow
I should have farmed his brother instead of him
cobalt apex
now its fixed so thundering is ass
sterile swallow
Too late now. Gotta focus on other people outside of Calcharo
cobalt apex
i just started building calcharo after 2 weeks
blissful tulip
Don't think it's possible for many to even 2* 4th side until later UL levels or near optimal builds
And this is the easier side, 1-4 has Mephis 
sterile swallow
I feel like that floor was meant for lv80-90 characters
cobalt apex
that side is bricked for me
sterile swallow
Or whales can 3* it
cobalt apex
since i built danjin havoc mc
blissful tulip
I feel like that floor was meant for lv80-90 characters <:A_GaspTao:109826633000...
I feel that was its intention, yes
Oh well, what can you do
Looks like it's log in resin log out until 1.1 then 
cobalt apex
i cant even clear the 3rd one cause the havoc wolves have infinite havoc res
blissful tulip
Not enough DPS for the final diff of Hologram Monkey and I am not in the mood to mald for Mephis dif 5
cobalt apex
and i just deal no dmg
blissful tulip
i cant even clear the 3rd one cause the havoc wolves have infinite havoc res
You mean the second side? The third side does not have any wolves
Ah, you meant 3-2
cobalt apex
i dont remember which one
but so many of them have havoc res enemies
this isnt fair
blissful tulip
Will probably use the Genshin formula of handling abyss, where there are identical floors every 2 weeks with slightly different blessings until the next patch
cobalt apex
sound reasonable
sterile swallow
So they need to release a 5* havoc character so we get havoc blessings
cobalt apex
truege
blissful tulip
ToA will likely go through a very simple blessing cycle
The two featured 5* will have their element dmg% increased
As well as a small general buff that may or may not work on a plethora of other characters
sterile swallow
1.1 cycle - Jinhsi and Encore cycle
oak copper
would be nice if they didnt go too hard on the Buffs and Enemy matchups in ToA because you are already bringing 3 Teams. Its not gonna be very fun long-term if ToA just railroads which Team is exactly gonna be played in which part of ToA
blissful tulip
Knowing how resistances are handled, it will likely force you to build a team of around 4-5 elements for good coverage
cobalt apex
yea
blissful tulip
50%+ resistance is very large in a game like Waves
cobalt apex
prob 1-2 elements will be hard countered every phase
blissful tulip
And the bosses themselves are not particularly difficult either, as they use the overworld moveset rather than the hologram moveset
cobalt apex
this one is havoc
blissful tulip
prob 1-2 elements will be hard countered every phase
Havoc and Electro (for wind side)
sterile swallow
Dont forget cc too. Yangyang and Jianxin grouping smaller enemies together helps
cobalt apex
st units also have lots of disadvantages in ToA
blissful tulip
Not necessarily, they are much better against bosses and even the most ST characters have AoE potential
sterile swallow
The ST stuff is at the end. I attempted the lv100 monkey with Calcharo and co., wasnt able to kill it in 5min
cobalt apex
sterile swallow
But I did get its HP down to 10%
blissful tulip
Does it have the hologram moveset?
sterile swallow
The boss itself is easier too because it doesn't have the hologram moveset
cobalt apex
oh
blissful tulip
That's surprising
cobalt apex
then its just dps check
blissful tulip
I'm sure they'll manage to increase the actual difficulty of ToA, but so far it doesn't feel too much different from Genshin's abyss to me
On the bright side, it does take less time
sterile swallow
The vigor mechanic is cool/cursed
Im just going to need them to release 1-2 more supports like Verina
blissful tulip
It's a unique way of handling things, I agree
But once characters have more PGR-like movesets, it'll be simple enough to just use the team throughout the whole side
More unique now as we are currently only 2.5 weeks in
sterile swallow
Can't even use Verina in middle tower because I used her for floor 4 in both left and right tower
night mantle
all the things they copied from genshin are just bad
night mantle
the things they developed themselves are really good
blissful tulip
all the things they copied from genshin are just bad
That is what makes me sad about Waves
If you're going to copy some of Genshin's aspects, at least make it better
robust axle
ur just unlucky cream
Istg if i lose the 5050 too.....
sterile swallow
The grapple+traveling+no stamina when sprinting is good
cobalt apex
i hope u win (i dont)
sterile swallow
Doing genshin dailies after playing WWs:
robust axle
The poor employees of the indie company kuro games are gonna get it
blissful tulip
Doing genshin dailies after playing WWs: <:A_GaspTao:1098266330001572041>
I feel mixed about Waves' dailies
They're quite good, but they are not streamlined
Ironically enough they take more time in comparison to GI's dailies to me
sterile swallow
Really? It feels faster to me
blissful tulip
Maybe they'll adjust it in a future patch like they did for HSR
sterile swallow
Because I don't have to talk to a NPC to claim
robust axle
Wuwas dailies are just worse version of hsr dailies
blissful tulip
Load times have something to do with it I imagine
Waves has you travel all around the map, and with my device, it's not exactly the most fun
night mantle
but I think this game has so much potential than genshin, coz the thing is when hoyo finds some new features or improvements to add they don't add that to existing games, they make a new game for those improvments and keep the old games as they are
robust axle
The biggest gripe i have with this game is the resin system
Things cost too much resin
It might even be worse than genshin
blissful tulip
but I think this game has so much potential than genshin, coz the thing is when ...
I agree to some extent, but I am worried about the 1.1 movesets knowing PGR
night mantle
Wuwas dailies are just worse version of hsr dailies
but aren't they the easiest ones to do?
sterile swallow
They should halve the cost of everything tbh
blissful tulip
They have just as much potential to fuck it up as well as doing great
robust axle
I agree to some extent, but I am worried about the 1.1 movesets knowing PGR
I legit dont know the difference between the 1.1 kits ngl
cobalt apex
it shouldnt cost me 60 resin to get enough xp for 10 echoes lvl
blissful tulip
I legit dont know the difference between the 1.1 kits ngl
The SFX seems blinding
It's already not great with characters such as Yinlin and a few others
night mantle
it shouldnt cost me 60 resin to get enough xp for 10 echoes lvl
its still better then genshin?
also echo exp is not the problem if you use it correctly, the problems are tuners
sterile swallow
Im the opposite, I have extra tuners and not enough echo exp
cobalt apex
i have 200 tuners with 10 lvls of xp
night mantle
Im the opposite, I have extra tuners and not enough echo exp
then you might be using echo exp wrong
sterile swallow
So I'm a bit picky with upgrading echoes now
Not really, I just go up to +10, if it rolls bad. It becomes fodder exp for the next one
If it rolls well, it's a keeper
cobalt apex
same
night mantle
also I am talking about preimum tuners though not the other ones
cobalt apex
yea premium
cobalt apex
i have over 2k 4* tuners
night mantle
they would prob add syn for tuners at some point I beleive
blissful tulip
They likely will, maybe at a 50:10 ratio
sterile swallow
Yes please
cobalt apex
would appreciate
also i feel like a 75% return xp rate is kinda harsh
how much is it for genshin?
blissful tulip
Afaik, 85-90%, a +20 artifact levels up a +0 artifact to +19
night mantle
no its 80%
night mantle
blissful tulip
Seems to be much more generous in Genshin considering the 80%
quasi sable
They should
blissful tulip
After having played with the echo system for a while, I'd consider them a better artifact system if you have extra time
I like how the substats are handled, no extra rolls ending up in def only
night mantle
yeah, time reward not money, though can't say the same about exp and tuners
blissful tulip
If you don't have extra time, I'd consider them on par
Knowing how difficult 3 cost echoes are
sterile swallow
Time is a valuable resource. No one wants to kill their overworld daily
But they do have the option to
blissful tulip
That is the thing as well 
, folks are already getting burnt out of echo farming
I feel that my main concern with the game's future is likely going to be the gameplay loop being very similar to Genshin's
Endgame loop as well until we get more modes added
sterile swallow
Illusive realm has potential if they make the rewards reset weekly like HSR
And they can add more holograms
blissful tulip
If they make it less repetitive, absolutely, but as it stands now
I find the mode very lackluster
sterile swallow
Right. It should only take 2 runs on the hardest difficulty to get all rewards zzz
Or 1. Be different
night mantle
yeah more holograms are coming for sure. I am personally waiting for crownless tbh
robust axle
I wonder how fast wuwa hype is gonna die after zzz release
blissful tulip
It'll do fine, a good chunk of Waves players hate anything Hoyo related
blissful tulip
yeah more holograms are coming for sure. I am personally waiting for crownless t...
Coming in 1.1
night mantle
also echo farming might get a little easier with time since they will add more new echos
sterile swallow
I mainly like the appeal of getting an on-set ele dmg echo from illusive realm
Especially if the rewards reset weekly
blissful tulip
No significant changes beyond adding extra characters and echoes are planned for the time being
In any case, I'm sure Kuro will manage eventually, just hope they don't trip along the way
night mantle
I wanna see what new things they can bring to echo system
will there be more rarity or special buffs to echos in future
robust axle
god fucking dammit
sterile swallow
No she's actually good
Play her tutorial. She has AoE, shields, cc, heals
On top of that, she can make herself invincible
You can use her as a 3rd slot for tower with mobs/human enemies that jump around her lot. Her burst vacuums things like Venti's burst
sterile swallow
I'm sorry 🫂
robust axle
GOD WHY IS EVERY GAME IM INTERSTED IN IS A FUCKING GACHA
upper flare
which standard banner weapon do i pick?
quasi sable
which standard banner weapon do i pick?
What char you have
upper flare
What char you have
lemme ss one sec
everyone is on a 3 star wep except for havoc rover who has like this ER sword but its 4 star 💀
this thing
quasi sable
You use Chalcharo right
quasi sable
In my opinion, get broadsword
upper flare
the main thing about it is that the broadsword would be nice for calc
but the sword is crit rate
i assume crit stat usually will be better in general?
which is why idk which one to wait for
barren drift
yeah i try to get crit rate whenever possible
quasi sable
Crit always better
upper flare
yea...altho my calcharo is stuck with a 3 star wep
quasi sable
2nd is sword
barren drift
do u wanna get bp?
barren drift
u can also wait for that 4* too though..
quasi sable
Do you have plan to pull jiyan sword
Or next patch weapons?
They'll have broadsword and sword
quasi sable
You should get 4* weaps
upper flare
which ones
barren drift
atp its which character you like more
quasi sable
Like when pull her weap
upper flare
honestly no clue
upper flare
Like when pull her weap
oh that
barren drift
barren drift
ah gauntlets..
upper flare
only 4 star heavy sword i have is a def% one
quasi sable
But still, either broadsword or sword
barren drift
yeah the only cope is the craftable
upper flare
yeah i have no gauntlet users on top of it
barren drift
i mean if u also do gun users the 5* gun is pretty solid too
sterile swallow
There's a 3* gauntlet with Crit dmg
quasi sable
^
barren drift
just wait until then and see which weapon benefits more
upper flare
no gun users either
sterile swallow
That's perfect for Jianxin if you have her. It lets her use the healing set too
upper flare
just wait until then and see which weapon benefits more
oh right we have a 5 star selector there as well
upper flare
That's perfect for Jianxin if you have her. It lets her use the healing set too
as for that case, i also dont know how to aim for in standard
barren drift
oh u were talking abt pulling on the standard?
upper flare
i mean the weapon and regular character banner
upper flare
oh u were talking abt pulling on the standard?
nah this is the choice 80 wish one
i made the dumb mistake of dropping 20 wishes on the regular standard banner before this one
sterile swallow
Imo, sword is best because too many people use it.
If you have Calcharo/Jiyan and plan to pull Jinhsi, broadblade
upper flare
oh yeah i havent even decided on encore vs jianxin yet 💀
sterile swallow
Encore shares the same weapon type as Yinlin so that's a plus for her. If you need another main dps
Jianxin is more of a support/cc. She's there for that 3rd slot role
edgy cobalt
if you’re pulling changli then don’t pull encore
upper flare
no clue who that is either
edgy cobalt
upper flare
to be fair, who i pull next is a complete mystery
upper flare
https://tenor.com/view/changli-wuwa-wuwa-changli-changli-ult-changli-wuthering-g...
that looks cool
might need to trial test her tho ngl
edgy cobalt
https://tenor.com/view/jinhsi-jinhsi-leaks-jinhsi-wuwa-wuwa-wuthering-waves-gif-17819008471735916812
upper flare
i have no asterites already
edgy cobalt
want jinhsi but no pulls
upper flare
https://tenor.com/view/jinhsi-jinhsi-leaks-jinhsi-wuwa-wuwa-wuthering-waves-gif-...
she summons a dragon wot 💀
edgy cobalt
and a 50/50 dream
upper flare
and a 50/50 dream
i spent all mine on the wep banner
sterile swallow
Maybe they'll give us 20 limited pulls again for text/mistranslation
Look it says 100k, but I only have 70k points
edgy cobalt
it took me 2 days to realize that the event can be cheesed with just intro spamming
used a lvl1 yuanwu and he one shots lvl80s with his intro
so now I’m not worried about the event being a dps check cuz it really isn’t after all
barren drift
robust axle
can someone tldr me changli kit
neat robin
My jiyan just targeted a pigeon with his skill … I was fighting a heron 😭
robust axle
My jiyan just targeted a pigeon with his skill … I was fighting a heron 😭
targetting is so shit in this game
neat robin
Why is he fighting small birds my guy was like nah this 10k dmg is specifically for this pigeon
Not the 3/4 hp heron attacking me
upper flare
targetting is so shit in this game
honestly the only issue i have atm with it other than the optimization
robust axle
Like im trying to group shit with jiyan im kissing the enemy on the forehead and he STILL just goes for the ungroupable big guy
blissful tulip
targetting is so shit in this game
Camera as well
neat robin
For whatever reason this flautist marker is also always incorrect. 2 1cost dudes where the marker is but the flautist is down the hill
kind turtle
hole
small bronze
For whatever reason this flautist marker is also always incorrect. 2 1cost dudes...
he might be somewhere underground? i thought the pins are on the enemies, not in predetermined places
and that just might be another one
neat robin
Finallyyyyy
A good day until they both roll def & hp
small bronze
or did it change after you killed him
neat robin
he might be somewhere underground? i thought the pins are on the enemies, not in...
No that marker goes away after killing that one
keen aspen
sterile swallow
It's good, all those stats are useful
Keep it equipped until you somehow find a better one
night mantle
Why are genshin players fighting so much and demeaning wuwa?
isn't it good that wuwa succeeds and forces hoyo to improve genshin?
sterile swallow
Exactly
Whatever QoLs WWs get. Genshin should export over
Like no stamina use when sprinting in overworld/non-combat areas
night mantle
yeah
like everyone knows that hoyo doesn't care about improvements in genshin since there isn't any competition to force them and now when there is you don't want the competition
night mantle
For whatever reason this flautist marker is also always incorrect. 2 1cost dudes...
yeah he is roaming around and many times goes down the hill
blissful tulip
Why are genshin players fighting so much and demeaning wuwa?
They're fighting due to the poor launch and the general similarities between the games
As well as Waves' designs being more grounded rather than vibrant
neat robin
Wuwa looks more like clothes someone would actually wear
night mantle
nah, these are for wuwa improvement I don't have any problem with this
blissful tulip
I feel that more will happen due to post-honeymoon scarcity
Which is perfectly normal for a gacha, but not everyone sees it that way
neat robin
Camera/targeting. Horribly low sensitivity. Shitty echo exp
Really only 3 things I’ll complain about
robust axle
I see wuwa player base shit on genshin than the other way around way more
neat robin
Its 1.0 ofc its not gonna be the greatest story or smooth gameplay as they work things out
small bronze
I see wuwa player base shit on genshin than the other way around way more
for a reason imo, it ups it in everything other than content just cause its new but thats what they are trying to do
80 pity instead of 90, 6 wishes a month instead of 5, 0.6 instead of 0.5 5* odds, weapon banner pity carryover, guaranteed featured weapon, infinite sprint, better movement (grapple & wall sprint)
blissful tulip
80 pity instead of 90, 6 wishes a month instead of 5, 0.6 instead of 0.5 5* odds...
The shop resets per patch, not per month
0.6% is Genshin, 0.8% is Waves
small bronze
ah yes pardon
blissful tulip
Weapon banner pity always carried over in Genshin, it's the epitomized path that did not
robust axle
for a reason imo, it ups it in everything other than content just cause its new ...
Other than the freebies from launch the only department it ups is more interactive combat, and even then genshins elemental reaction system gives its combat way more depth than wuwas imo
blissful tulip
I do feel that with aspects that are better, there is always some sort of catch, such as the 100% featured weapon banner
The 4* options on Yinlin are poor in comparison to Signature
robust axle
The pity thing isnt really an indicator as well , if we get 50 pulls per patch the lower pity isnt gonna mean shit
And 1.0 events gave like 320 iirc
blissful tulip
And 1.0 events gave like 320 iirc
We will be getting more rewards in the future
robust axle
They added another event to the calender but its because they moved 1.1 closer
robust axle
We will be getting more rewards in the future
Idk how f2p friendly pgr is but i hope you're right
blissful tulip
PGR is f2p friendly to a certain extent, they have been pushing more regarding signature weapons and ranks + CUBS, but they are not necessary to clear the general content the game provides
neat robin
Its funny becuase more friendly games tend to incentivize people to spend a little here or there since they arent getting shafted the rest of the time
blissful tulip
The gacha is generous enough to provide you with a 100% 5* equivalent (S rank) whenever they come out
small bronze
jiyan got me really used to fast attacks even though hes gs
i switched to calcharo
and it feels so slow
blissful tulip
Yinlin feels even slower
small bronze
calcharo feels that way already
i dont mind gs being slow
but why jiyan being so fast is the question
upper flare
calcharo is slow? 💀 man feels quite fast
blissful tulip
Jiyan's much faster, Calcharo's HA takes around two seconds
rotund drum
jiyan is just budget klee
small bronze
i need to play calcharo more cause i will think every gs is jiyan atk speed
i almost thought he was sword user to begin with
sterile swallow
Calcharo HA has a long ass animation but you can swap cancel
And it's preferred you do because having 2 characters attacking at the same on screen is cool
blissful tulip
Not with Yinlin's outro unfortunately, wish they kept what they had in CBT2 regarding swap cancelling
small bronze
i didnt even bother searching up how to swap cancel is that hard
im not really into min maxing like some people here are
sterile swallow
It's addicting
blissful tulip
Yinlin + Calcharo's swap cancelling was very intensive back in CBT2, but the other forms of swap cancelling aren't as difficult
sterile swallow
It's useless for me on overworld since regular mobs die too fast. Better used at bosses
blissful tulip
Swap cancelling dreamless for example is very easy
small bronze
swap canceling is only with echos?
blissful tulip
No, with abilities as well
sterile swallow
With people
neat robin
No. Some attacks too
sterile swallow
Its how Calcharo can get 3 death messengers in while his ult is up
small bronze
also what did you guys end up in tower? 18/30 is good so far?
blissful tulip
While in the middle of the attack animation, you can swap and the character attacking gains invincibility
blissful tulip
also what did you guys end up in tower? 18/30 is good so far?
It's the max many can feasibly get, so yes, 18/30 is great
sterile swallow
Yeah 18/30 is good. You can rest
blissful tulip
Heron's difficult to 3* due to damage check, even moreso the Mephis
It's likely that you'll be seeing 21/30 and beyond often after UL50
sterile swallow
They should decrease the HP so all of us can get 24/30 stars
blissful tulip
It is only 150 gems, tbf
small bronze
They should decrease the HP so all of us can get 24/30 stars <:A_HuCry:791398917...
thats reserved for the whales
blissful tulip
Just realised today that ToA repeats every 3 weeks rather than two
rotund drum
"only"
blissful tulip
That's an extra 250
small bronze
i already went crazy cause i would buy welkin once a year or so in genshin
and here i bought both welkin and bp
cobalt cobalt
Lol she’s floating
small bronze
i trust kuro