・wuwa-lounge

[dense elbow]

Ahh fairs lmfao

If u didnt get lingyang i wouldve

Even if rn hes doing pretty well

[graceful jetty]

WTF

https://tenor.com/view/blocked-block-you-blocked-blocking-gif-14145534

[oak copper]

Yeah, I'm gonna grind some shit out for this Acc to see how it continues to shape up on the side. I have to decide between Encore or Jianxin for the last standard to guarantee and thats most definitely Encore. I guess Jianxin isn't terribly important but still really nice to have

Did I say Jiyan Sig also came after 31 Pulls? I really don't know whats going on with this Acc

[graceful jetty]

you are almost convincing me to reroll again

[lament shuttle]

Where verina

[oak copper]

selector ticket

[lament shuttle]

Ah

[stuck wharf]

no lingyang slander

[graceful jetty]

my current acc has lingyang from beginner and jianxin from jiyan banner (so guaranteed), got verins from free 5*, still didnt pull on selector banner

jianxin was 30 pity

it's not a bad acc, it just could be better

[oak copper]

With the selector and the sheer number of pulls we are now getting on a new acc, you primariyl reroll for Jiyan and Sig anyway.

[graceful jetty]

I'll keep the login info but im trying for jiyan+sig start

[oak copper]

The Jiyan + Yinlin overlap for a few days is also pretty nasty

If you want to reroll for some god acc

[small bronze]

can you swap weapons from characters in tower?

without messing up the thing?

[oak copper]

in b4 they fuck the banners up and we get another compensation because Jiyan is suddenly gone in 2 days

[lament shuttle]

Echoes and weapons yes

[small bronze]

so i can go jiyan with his signature, use up his energy and then switch that sig to calcharo without messing up the progress?

[stuck wharf]

yes

[lament shuttle]

Yep

Though I haven’t seen anyone get over 24 Doritos without bug abusing

Which is weird af it’s like impossible to buy out the tower shop

[dense elbow]

VERY SUS TAKE WITH A GRAIN OF SALT
image circling around CN forums showing Jinhsi and Changli in the character select screen. Stormy Waves also cant confirm or deny the legitimacy of the image. 1.1 Beta has not started yet in Global or CN. Most likely fake but enjoy the speculation.
Jinhsi - Spectro
Changli - Fusion

[ruby rune]

AYO SHE SPECTRO?

we savin bois

[blissful tulip]

I've heard many say that this was fake

[oak copper]

That sounds about right given Jinhsi's look and her one attack animation in the Scar fight cutscene

[dense elbow]

might* be

[stuck wharf]

phone cam leaks

[ruby rune]

if she is I am saving otherwise we cringing

[dense elbow]

at least from actual leakers ik they cant say if its real or fake so ill leave it here for speculation

[lament shuttle]

I hope the fusion one is a sword user

[stuck wharf]

changli is gloves

[lament shuttle]

So I can reuse 5* weapons

[ruby rune]

also is it worth trying to get jiyan's weap rn?

[lament shuttle]

If you have him yes it is

[dense elbow]

https://x.com/stormywaves_net/status/1797960952937324938

Stormy Waves (@stormywaves_net) on X

We can't say if the recent "Leak" with Jinhsi and Changli is real or not. Kuro hasn't started recruiting testers for the 1.1 beta in China and not even China knows the source of the image, but there are multiple things in the image that indicate that it's fake.

Twitter · Jun 4, 2024, 11:57 AM

[ruby rune]

yeah I just got him

so might as well use my pulls else where

since his s1 sounds garbo

[stuck wharf]

or save

[small bronze]

im really happy with my pulls i literally got every 5* besides lingyang which i hate jiyan c1 and his sig and sitting on a guarantee for yinlin i just bought a welkin

and i dont like changli nor jhinsi so im gonna save after

this game got me more luck than playing genshin for 3 years

[lament shuttle]

@dense elbow I’m assuming sim training at double rewards is worth it ?

The one coming out Thursday

[rotund drum]

jiyan r1 is good value relative to jiyan himself but it doesn't make him like super broken

so i would consider whether you actually want to spend money on it

vs just saving it for a better char

[dense elbow]

its what it should be by default yeah it should be

[rotund drum]

probably wont hurt to do the dubs at least

[lament shuttle]

I wonder which one to do

[rotund drum]

more xp book is always nice and the game doesnt give that many weapon mats for free either

[lament shuttle]

Prob resonator xp

Or half half

[rotund drum]

xp crafting is weekly rather than daily and you need to spend a lot of time farming florambers and indidoite

[lilac hare]

Did they ever address the lack of echo exp? I feel like we don’t really have a reliable way to farm it

[lament shuttle]

Uh oh

[rotund drum]

theyre giving more in events starting in 1.1

[lilac hare]

Hopefully it’s enough

[lament shuttle]

20-27th is double rewards

[rotund drum]

it probably wont be

[lament shuttle]

Rest is tbd they were unclear

[rotund drum]

but the rates are mostly in line with genshit from what i can tell

[lilac hare]

Should’ve let us use the monsters we absorb as fodder fr

[lilac hare]

My jiyan is 55.5/235 rip

[lament shuttle]

That’s still fine

[dense elbow]

im stacked on weapon exp personally so im going for char exp

[lament shuttle]

55/135 is a good

[lament shuttle]

Do you have 5* weap

[dense elbow]

didnt want us farming infinitely for free lol

[lament shuttle]

They cost a lot to lvl

[dense elbow]

oh ik they do

[lament shuttle]

I’m out of both so 🫠

[dense elbow]

but levelling like 10 chars is more expensive than 1 weapon

[lilac hare]

He would have 5.6 more crate when he’s ascended (it’s on level 40 though, will take some time)

[lilac hare]

Yes

[lament shuttle]

He needs his er threshold the most

More than improving that crit / crit dmg distribution

[lilac hare]

Yeah I can replace one of the 3 cost to energy regen right?

I just have it in one substat

[dense elbow]

you really want the ER in subs ideally but for now its fine

[lilac hare]

ER is probably really valuable for endgame yeah?

[dense elbow]

depends on the char

some need like none at all like encore

jiyan needs a lot tho

[lilac hare]

Yeah

[lament shuttle]

Jiyan is like not a character without his form

[dense elbow]

pretty much all chars with an ult state

[lilac hare]

[dense elbow]

they deal piss dmg outside of it

[lament shuttle]

Encore is fine without it

[lilac hare]

Fr

[dense elbow]

so if ur on them u a basically always wanna be in

[dense elbow]

i would VERY much disagree

she has range sure

not the same dmg at all

swap cancelling skill, echo etc if u mean that then yeah

but her basics definitely not the same

[lilac hare]

I’m building her right now

[dense elbow]

and when she needs like no ER anyways, she should always be in her ult

[ruby rune]

encore is literally a skill then swap without her ult

[dense elbow]

skill swap
echo swap

[ruby rune]

and I stand by this statement

[dense elbow]

ult, NA E spam, forte heavy swap

she can play very QS which is nice

[lilac hare]

I’m really looking forward to build her

She seems like a fun unit

[rotund drum]

encore has a really high damage skill and a busted outro

she can also blow herself up for a bit of free damage if her ult isnt quite charged yet

hell biker is also one of the better personas for filling field time

it has the highest base damage out of the 4* stands iirc

although you cant swap cancel it

[dense elbow]

you can

inferno rider was pretty shit before we found you can swap cancel the 3rd hit

[rotund drum]

you can swap cancel the third hit but that only saves you like 25% of the animation lol

[dense elbow]

but now its a free 800% MV in less than a second and then the 3rd hit off field

[dense elbow]

it saves you a majority of the animation what??

😭

the 3rd hit is ridiculously slow

[ruby rune]

is it worth forte heavy if she's not in ult form btw?

[rotund drum]

you're talking about the fireball drop right

iirc you can dash cancel it too

[dense elbow]

yes the 3rd hit

[dense elbow]

you dont want to cancel it tho

you want it to go off

[rotund drum]

i mean you can dash cancel it once the fireball comes out

i should check that actually

[dense elbow]

thats still slower than swap cancel

where you can swap out just as the 2nd hit ends and itll do the 3rd hit

[rotund drum]

well you want encore to stay onfield

[dense elbow]

not really

not for echo skills lmfao

[dense elbow]

depends on ur team ig

if ur more QS oriented it can be fine if ur skill or echo are both on CD

[rotund drum]

if you have other cooldowns you can still dump i guess it doesnt hurt to swap and come back

but encore generally wants to use her swap on the forte nuke

[dense elbow]

yeah you use the 1st two hits, swap out and let the 3rd hit happen off field, then come back and ult

doesnt matter if her outro is up or not coz itll definitely be up at the end of her ult

theres no punishment for swapping

if anything theres benefits coz you can swap cancel attacks which are now completely safe off field whilst attacking on another character

[rotund drum]

i guess if you really want to minmax it it doesnt hurt

its not really a huge deal though unless you have a cooldown you want to burn

you probably wont be doing much with that 1s of field time otherwise

if you're going back to encore right away anyway

[dense elbow]

i think its a big deal

inferno riders 3rd hit is a very long animation

thats just asking to get hit a lot of the time

and you lose no dmg by swapping it, if anything you gain

[rotund drum]

the recovery after the fireball drop is long but you can dash cancel that part

[dense elbow]

swap CDs arent long either

[dense elbow]

the start up and endlag are long

[rigid shore]

team build pls for resonant and echoing tower

[dense elbow]

it was the one thing holding it back before we found it was swap cancellable

[rotund drum]

its literally like one second saved which is the same as the swap icd

[small bronze]

how far did you guys get

[rotund drum]

so its mostly only if you actually have something to do on another char within that 1s

[barren drift]

u raised so many chars to 20?

[rigid shore]

i need teams

ttell ples

[dense elbow]

its longer than the 1st two hits combined and makes you completely stationary during the whole attack so being able to cut over half of it is huge

[blissful tulip]

15/30, could get 18 after reaching level 40 today/tomorrow

[rigid shore]

i have the resources to

[small bronze]

i only got to 18/30 cause my calcharo used jinyan weapon and then i switched it back that carried

[dense elbow]

like if you couldnt swap cancel it, id unironically be recommending a different fusion main echo

lmfao

you aint gonna see most calcharos staying onfield for their 2.2s death messenger either lmfao

[rigid shore]

help team build idk who synergies with who

[dense elbow]

you swap cancel it and do smth else coz youre just gonna get hit

[oak copper]

can always drop a quick skill or generate some concerto to get to your burst windows faster. Game can reward you pretty substantially for using these cancels well, even if it can be a bit fidgety

[dense elbow]

tbh even if you do nothing in that time

[oak copper]

I'm a bit torn on him atm, I really like how he can play, but he also feels sluggish and plays awkward around aggressive enemies

[dense elbow]

cutting out over 50% of a 2s+ animation to do completely off field when youre stationary to get hit

is pretty huge

[small bronze]

i did 18/30 with these two teams

[dense elbow]

have you tried him with camera cancels?

[rigid shore]

hmm

ill try mixing up a bit

[rotund drum]

i do the cancel if the next char in line is jianxin or if i have outro charged but otherwise i usually just dont bother

[lament shuttle]

Yes this when her ult is down and you need energy

[oak copper]

not yet, he was on the 80 choice Banner on my UL36 Acc, so I only got him at UL35 and this new Acc with S2 Cal is only just doing Clashing Blades rn

[rotund drum]

i dont really feel like its worth the effort

plus if its a char like jianxin or verina who have good intros you dont really want to waste it on encore's

[dense elbow]

fairs, camera cancels can let him either possibly get a 4th death messenger or make his combos a lot safer so you can still get 3 whilst dodging

[lament shuttle]

Calchero has so many cancels it’s gonna be fun to learn with yinlin

[dense elbow]

which is very big

[rotund drum]

by going back to her

[oak copper]

how do camera cancels work?

[rotund drum]

you just press camera lol

[dense elbow]

just.. swap to another char first then go to encore then?? 😭

swap cd is 1s per char

not the whole team

[dense elbow]

if you equip the zoom camera and try using it during an animations endlag, it cancels the endlag

[rotund drum]

that sounds like mega work to save literally 1 second lol

[oak copper]

ah, was thinking about the player camera, not the gadget

[dense elbow]

bro its pressing 3 then 1 right after each other its not hard work 😭

you cant just ignore your concerto uptime its meter management

[rotund drum]

you cant see the concerto bar on the incoming char until they're in and its hard to tell if its actually fully charged a lot of the time

[dense elbow]

if you just run around and try using it it should cancel your sprint which is better than what levitator would do which has a 1s cd rather than 0 and stopped all movement, momentum etc

[small bronze]

which c1 is the best to pick?? i got all these already any ideas

[dense elbow]

you can see it on the right side what??

😭

[rigid shore]

maybe verina?

[rotund drum]

it only lights up if the current char is charged and the right side bar has a delay iirc

[dense elbow]

??

[small bronze]

they are here

[dense elbow]

it should be a meter there at all times

[dense elbow]

literally 😭 😭 😭

[rotund drum]

the little circle on the left of the forte bar only shows when the char is actually on field and its hard to tell if its actually full

[dense elbow]

idk thats a you problem icl 😭

[rotund drum]

so then you have to look over to the right side of the screen to see if the chars are glowing

which is also hard to see

[lament shuttle]

does it say anywhere how many timesu can do it

[dense elbow]

they said the amount of times resets per day but not how many we get

[rotund drum]

i miss outros a lot because the circle looks filled but its not

[lament shuttle]

it cost 40 so maybe its 6x instead of 3x ?

[rotund drum]

its probably 3x

people would rage if it took literally an entire day of stam

[dense elbow]

3 is a safe number but idk

[dense elbow]

i mean they arent forced to do it

would be the same amount of rewards and stamina as if they capped it at 3

[rotund drum]

imagine missing your reset because you didnt log in at the exact same time each day

[oak copper]

having a number on resource bars like that would be nice

[dense elbow]

having the actual buff bar work as a buff bar would be nice

its literally for food buffs rn only 😭

[lament shuttle]

it lines up with me finishing all the pre farming to lvl 3 dps to lvl 70

[rotund drum]

its a bigger problem on verina than encore but encore's circle is also hard to see

[lament shuttle]

so either way its good

[rotund drum]

verina's filled circle is literally the same color as the unfilled circle lol

[oak copper]

me trying to figure out if set or echo Buffs are active w/o looking at dmg numbers directly:

[dense elbow]

real

[rotund drum]

at least theres a shield bar

the rest you just assume its working or not and yolo

[rigid shore]

is this

the tacet fields?

[lament shuttle]

no

[rotund drum]

nothing like dying in genshit because you cant tell how much hp your shield has left

[lament shuttle]

its the thing in main town

[dense elbow]

uh

[lament shuttle]

that gvies either credits, resonator xp or weapon xp

[dense elbow]

gray = yellow?

[rotund drum]

even star fail has a shield bar but apparently that's too hard for genshit

[rigid shore]

uh

oh that guy

leyline dude

[rotund drum]

its like dark yellow vs light gray lol

[lament shuttle]

ye

[rotund drum]

if you zoom in on it and freeze frame and squint you can see it yeah

hard to see in actual gameplay though

[dense elbow]

idk thats a pretty vibrant yellow to me

https://youtu.be/kIjAn__i2tk?t=79

[rotund drum]

not everyone perceives colors the same way btw

i cant see the difference between anemo and dendro in genshit either

[dense elbow]

no shit im fucking colourblind

but theres not even colour there in the ring its just the outline

[rotund drum]

there's different types of colorblindness too

[dense elbow]

and fills up with colour based on energy

[dense elbow]

why am i being mansplained to how colourblindness works like i havent lived with it my whole life

😭

[quasi sable]

Is chixia good?

[dense elbow]

ehhh

shes fine

[edgy cobalt]

so jinhsi is likely spectro lmao

[dense elbow]

if u wanna use her shes clearing still

[kind turtle]

i've seen chixia nuking

she can go hard

[rotund drum]

you should know theres different kinds of colorblindness if you have one of them

[lament shuttle]

her dmg uptime is high

[quasi sable]

That's true

[lilac hare]

Oh right. Is this sus?

[dense elbow]

yes im aware, its moreso that the ring doesnt have colour there before its filled

[rigid shore]

is it worth using fragile resins rn?

[dense elbow]

pins

[rotund drum]

i cant see the difference between blue and green or orange and red

[ruby rune]

1 more run and I can finally move to talents/weapon domain

[rotund drum]

yellow/gray/white also gives me trouble

[lilac hare]

So it’s very sus

[quasi sable]

Wait, leaks already?

[ruby rune]

sus

[quasi sable]

Oh

But seriously

[rigid shore]

CHANGLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

[dense elbow]

medium protanopia here so yellow/green, greens/reds/oranges, blues/purples/pinks and light pink/gray for me

[quasi sable]

I wanna know their roles

[rotund drum]

one of the two new chars being spectro is pretty likely though

[dense elbow]

considering we have a lack of spectro kinda yeah

[rotund drum]

i was just saying last night that there's literally no spectro chars unless you count verina

and mc lol

[dense elbow]

altho we also have no havoc 5 star for the starting banner

[rotund drum]

yeah no havoc 5-star either

[dense elbow]

but no spectro 4 star and idt jinhsi is 4 star

[quasi sable]

Eh

[lilac hare]

That’s mc fr

[quasi sable]

Who needs it

Hmc already enuf

Unless

[rigid shore]

for now

[dense elbow]

not rly the point but true

genshin has no standard geo either

[quasi sable]

If they gave us different playstyle

Are there like

Leak kits already

[ruby rune]

ning

[dense elbow]

girl got demoted in cbt2

[quasi sable]

I wanna know what their roles are

[dense elbow]

[small bronze]

wtf the tempest memphis lvl 70 is crazy

on the holo

[ruby rune]

holy sht its somewhat generous

7 and 4

[blissful tulip]

UL40?

[quasi sable]

I really want spectro dps

[dense elbow]

looks like a max roll at U30

[quasi sable]

Cuz screw srover

[ruby rune]

35

[burnt shoal]

wat just mora and exp books?

[lament shuttle]

For this week yes

Weapon xp, Mora and character xp

[burnt shoal]

wait is it double

so it means you have to spend resin on leylines?

[lament shuttle]

Yes

In my case it lines up well with hitting ul40

So the xp is nice for weapons and characters to lvl 70

[burnt shoal]

ohhh

[blissful tulip]

Good lord am I close

[night mantle]

how?????????

[ruby rune]

havoc mc pls

[night mantle]

f2p?

[lament shuttle]

How many cubes did you use

[ruby rune]

[ruby rune]

yeah

[night mantle]

100% exploration?

[knotty fiber]

lol not for me

I can clearly see it

[ruby rune]

nope

[knotty fiber]

maybe because

[night mantle]

then?

[small bronze]

why are some of these c1 so bad, what is this lingyang or calchero

[lament shuttle]

This is Isabel

Usable

[ruby rune]

it is I know but like I want better

[night mantle]

trash it...you should have trashed it after getting hp%...dreamless is the easiest boss to farm

[knotty fiber]

refill 1-2 times everyday

[lament shuttle]

I mean you rolled it to 25 after getting er and hp

[lilac hare]

Damn everyone is so fast

I’m still ul 34

[night mantle]

but yinlin 😦

[ruby rune]

oh nah I plus 20'd then unlocked the talents

[lament shuttle]

I just hit 38 with 2 refreshes but I didn’t use any cubes

If I used the cubes it would be 40 today

[small bronze]

what refreshes?

[ruby rune]

that wasn't my aim anyhways i just wanted my weekly boss mats

[lament shuttle]

Asterite

[night mantle]

strongly advised not to do that....echo exp is easy to get but tuners are really hard to get

[lament shuttle]

Best advice is lvl to 10 if you don’t get 1-2 good rolls just ditch it tbh

[small bronze]

im lvl 37 with 25 cubes and 0 asterite refreshes i didnt even think of using those

[night mantle]

I need 4 days with all the cubes and 6 without the cubes to reach 40

[lament shuttle]

At ul40 we get 80% gold so it will be faster to get 4 cost dreamless crit mains

[lilac hare]

Do we get double exp and fp in coop? Or is it always the same?

[night mantle]

not sure about exp but all the members can claim an echo drop

I am 98% Jinzhou with 94% chests. Tried to use the interactive map but didn't found any chests 😭

[blissful tulip]

All of them, lack of patience on my part but I doubt it'll matter too much knowing the increase of rewards in UL40

I'd also like to finalise my ToA doritos

[dense elbow]

In the long run it doesnt matter too much imo

So if im close to a UL breakthru thatll get me something notable id use em to push

Also if its useful to anyone. Some ppl i talked to are more leaning towards the pinned leak being real, just even if jinhsis spectro, the ID that points to that has yuanwu copy paste data under it right now so we cant get an idea for her kit lol

[night mantle]

maybe its from closed beta

[rigid shore]

LETSGOOOOOOOOOOOO

gonna grind for 2000 echoes before i get ul40

[lament shuttle]

That’s uhh

4000 bosses or 8000 elites

Good luck

[night mantle]

wouldn't it be good to do 2000 grind with 80% chance of gold echos?

[lament shuttle]

That’s the more sane decision yep

[rigid shore]

2 areas left i have no clue how to 100% jinzhou

[night mantle]

exactly same I am also 94%

[rigid shore]

base drop rate is ass

[rigid shore]

probably quests i missed

[lament shuttle]

This won’t change

[rigid shore]

sadge

thank you genshin

[lament shuttle]

It’s still 50/25%

[rigid shore]

so 1/5

thas

10k echoes

max

[night mantle]

do I need prankster lvl4 to post images here, coz I don't see any option?

[rigid shore]

p3

[night mantle]

800 pts okay

[kind turtle]

only 3k dreamless smh

[rigid shore]

2.5k of those are 4 stars

[night mantle]

anybody knows how much mecha does yinlin needs?

[lament shuttle]

Depends on ur onion lvl

9 of the mat for lvl 60

18 for 70

[night mantle]

okay then gonna spend cubes for 18

ohh also, since yinlin story quests is coming, I beleive we can get good amout of ul exp from it

maybe can wait till 6 june

[lament shuttle]

Yea

[neat robin]

Im done until I find new 3cost
Cr er cdmg

[frank timber]

damn

[small bronze]

finally 💀

[frank timber]

congrats..

[ruby rune]

last one rolled def sadge

[night mantle]

nice rolls

[frank timber]

time to get another one

[barren drift]

god ppl rolling echoes

now i wanna log in and grind some

[edgy cobalt]

you can beat hazard with shit echoes its fine

just become UL60 in 2-3 months where you can max out your resonators

[blissful tulip]

Wonder how strict the echo requirement will be in the future ToA's

[edgy cobalt]

like I was at 15/30 since last week

and I ran garbage builds because jiyan carried

[restive pivot]

so jinhsi is spectro?

[edgy cobalt]

so far she’s rumored to be

[small bronze]

im glad i dont like both of them so i just get jiyan and yinlin and save up

[restive pivot]

im getting both

[ruby rune]

FINALLY

I CAN SLEEP

[lilac hare]

Just got her c4, who is she good with?

[barren drift]

havoc rober

[lilac hare]

Oh that’s good

[night mantle]

any basic atk resonator, havoc mc, encore, jianxin

[lilac hare]

Havoc mc and encore are already currently being built, that’s perfect then

[night mantle]

I like this website, its show damage distribution for different skills

https://www.prydwen.gg/wuthering-waves/characters

[rotund drum]

prydwen has always been a bit sus since they use a really specific set of assumptions for every char then bury them in a 5000 word essay so no one will read and question them

i remember their dps calc for acheron had some super high number even for suboptimal builds then you clicked through and it was like

this calc is assuming you have no debuffers but get tons of debuffs anyway

[kind turtle]

iirc leifa knows the person doing wuwa calcs

[rigid shore]

its himself

[neat robin]

Got 66/170 on my cal
But like.. zero atk. Need so much xp to level the 1cost from 10-25 😭

[kind turtle]

leifa talks about it in third person, so i doubt it

[rotund drum]

the mobs force you to dodge enough that i dont really trust the really specific "cancel tech" calcs

baseline calcs are fine i guess

like GL ever getting 4 death messenger uninterrupted on calcharo

even getting encore E uninterrupted is annoying

[kind turtle]

encore E has IR so you just take a bonk if you can survive it

or swap off and dont take damage

[rotund drum]

you lose the fat second nuke in that case unfortunately

[kind turtle]

nah

you can come back on field

as long as its before the end, you can swap off and return to do the hit

[rotund drum]

i think more likely you'll just end up getting hit while trying to show off

and/or not make it back in time and just sit there mashing E getting nothing for another second

at any rate even jianxin gets knocked out of her channel sometimes even with its poise and shield

[dense elbow]

i aint doing no calcs for this game rn i aint got the time

😭

ppl have asked me to but not rn

maybe in the future

for stuff like limbus company prydwen has been kinda eh from ppl ik that frequently play

but the wuwa stuff id consider trustworthy rn and altho the sheets arent linked they are available upon request

idk the whole shit with limbus specifically tho

just that the tierlist was apparently very fluctuating whenever a friend made a reddit post some chars would shoot up to the top or down to the bottom 😭 😭

but thats unrelated

[neat robin]

Whats the best way to spend stam for ul exp
At ul38 would like to hit 40 for yinlin release

[dense elbow]

spending stamina grants the same amount of union EXP no matter what

so spending it specifically for union EXP doesnt matter where you use it

you get 75 union EXP per 10 waveplates spent iirc

[kind turtle]

60=450 so that checks out

[edgy cobalt]

forgery mats imo

[rotund drum]

prydwen does the dodge in star fail where they rate the char based on the current moc since "its the only content that matters"

except star fail moc is always tuned for the new char even harder than it is in genshit

so every new char gets S by default lol

then they quietly move them down to their real spot on the tier list once the hype has died down

i would be skeptical of them giving yinlin or any future char an S rank too

iirc they also gave jiyan S rank just because he's the starter limited and they assumed he was good

[edgy cobalt]

he makes parrying trivial so its good for smooth brains like me

[rotund drum]

i never actually figured out how parrying works

[edgy cobalt]

if the enemies are about to attack and they have two circles closing in on each other and they align then you just attack

[rotund drum]

seems like only certain hits of attacks can trigger parry though

not sure about jiyan

[edgy cobalt]

but then you have some shit like the aix where you just “have to know” that some of its moves can parry

like its grabs

[rotund drum]

iirc jianxin channel cant parry except for the explosion hits

[blissful tulip]

It's relatively inconsistent
For instance, a good chunk of boss echoes cannot parry, while something like a Saurian fire breath can

It's very odd in how it works

[rotund drum]

seems like verina vines can parry but not mortefi lasers etc

[edgy cobalt]

depends on the range and timing really, ik rover’s moves can make parrying easy

[kind turtle]

The echo viewing gadget can also cause fake parries

[edgy cobalt]

parry as a gun user challenge (impossible)

apparently its possible but I was never able to make it work

[kind turtle]

On encore, her N3, intro, and outro field can trigger parry

[rotund drum]

they should have just made it so if you dodge the parryable attack and do a counterattack it triggers the parry

[kind turtle]

Real

[blissful tulip]

It is impossible in most cases

[edgy cobalt]

aix is so bugged I swear you can actually do that

[rotund drum]

aix has a long parry window is all

[oak copper]

tbh I think its still way too early to have very conclusive results about the game. There is so much shit you can do that could flip the perception on units completely and was in no way predictable based on current calcs simply because you can only calc rotations you know of

[rotund drum]

its the entire swoop dive iirc

so if you dodge it early enough the followup can hit while its still in parry

aix has the timer scam command grab though

literally waldstein

[kind turtle]

Also sim setups in wuwa are irrelevant when it's much more of a parry/counter game

Encore's basics are incredibly useful due to range and their cancels, Vs ult state where you do 47 back flips and get clotheslined by the dude

Mephis literally spins in circles with encore's N3/4 in ult

[rotund drum]

shes not actually airborne during ult n3 i think

its just the animation

[oak copper]

as long as the hardest content is a oneshot fiesta healer might aswell all be down in D Tier aswell, unless they are worth their field time disregarding any healing

[blissful tulip]

I'm not 100% sure on the 2nd side in hazard zone being the same difficulty as a dif 4/5 hologram

As the last stages in 1st and 3rd side do not do much damage at all despite being level 90

[knotty fiber]

2nd side?

[blissful tulip]

Harder extra side, the one with level 100 enemies

[barren drift]

6 crests ahh

[knotty fiber]

both of the healers here have dmg deepen buff

dmg deepen = dmg bonus but a different multiplier

consider it final dmg bonus

[rotund drum]

they'll probs nerf it

also not all content is one-shot lol

maybe in like a year when they add toa12

because even casuals are already auto-clearing toa10

but right now getting one-shot because you're whale-pushing content double your current level while most people cant even clear standard toa yet doesnt make sustains obsolete lol

[blissful tulip]

The exp increase is miniscule

Thought they'd increase it to 15k following their previous trend

Either way, UL40

[kind turtle]

the next jump is 59>60, where it goes from 15.7k to 21.6k

[rotund drum]

do they ever explain what you're wuthering against

[lilac hare]

What would y’all choose from the standard weapon banner?

[rotund drum]

or is it like james dean in rebel without a cause

[rotund drum]

sword or gun

[lilac hare]

Both give crate right?

[rotund drum]

probs sword since there's no good crit gun chars atm except maybe midtefi

[lilac hare]

I’d probably pick sword

[rotund drum]

and you can always pick the gun from the box later

and yeah those are the crate options

the others are atk lmao

me when i get 5*s in genshit and its skyward atlas

squidward atlas

[sterile swallow]

Sword is the best option

Too many people can use it. Also havoc rover so op

You can grab your other 5* weapon option later, either from free standard pulls or Lv45

[kind turtle]

just had this data sent at me

[stuck wharf]

this is clearly fake, I roll nothing but min cr

[kind turtle]

very true

[barren drift]

iactl have rolled a 10% crate

[sterile swallow]

I have never rolled a 10.5% Crit rate yet

I have rolled 9.9% crate twice. And a 21% cdmg once

[blissful tulip]

I wish they added a toggle for Inferno Rider's hold input, at times it malfunctions and forces me to ride around the arena

[timid sierra]

no vroom vroom?

[rotund drum]

i call him the bunny rider since there's a bunch of bunnyworts in the area near him

[dense elbow]

i love 5050 adds

[dense elbow]

yeah a few others ik, confirmed this earlier today too

its basically an even distribution

[oak copper]

@dense elbow I just did the web event thingy for the new reroll acc and I'm really starting to think something is seriously wrong with this Account, in a good way:

[dense elbow]

💀 go buy a fucking lottery ticket good god?

[neat robin]

You can get 5 gold pre-ul40 apparently
4 purples — 5 gold is a wild range

[dense elbow]

yeah i had a 5 gold earlier today

[oak copper]

If only that kind of luck went beyond this silly one Acc

[dense elbow]

pull clorinde in a few hours, free c6r5 in 20 pulls fr

[rotund drum]

my antivirus flags kusogames's website as a phishing site lol

[oak copper]

I'll do a funny 10 Pull for Sethos

[dense elbow]

uh oh

[rotund drum]

sethan

i think everyone is just saving for emilie now though

idk what clorinde is even supposed to be

some kinda quickspammer i guess

[oak copper]

you'll hear back from me how it went but the real interesting thing is gonna be the day after when Yinlin Banner comes and I'm gonna see the sequel to that first pulling session

[rotund drum]

"i'm at 9 pity for danjin one more pull should be safe"

e1 jiyan

[oak copper]

initial leak destroyed most of my hopes for her, unless her damage is completely unhinged its savong for Natlan

[rotund drum]

she looks pretty broken

other than needing burn

so you need at least one pyro char

either midlecchino or midney i guess

[oak copper]

we dont have her turret attack interval, could go anywhere from broken to Yae with extra steps

[kind turtle]

burn is for the weak, just run nilou

new aoe dendro applier yayyy

[rotund drum]

.3s turret interval on 50-cost ult though

i guess it remains to be seen whether it'll hit on a .7s interval if there's only one target though

or if you have to wait till .9s

[oak copper]

lasts 2.8s, so even if its 0.7s ST it gets 4-5 hits a 250%, so its 1k to 1.25k MV, basically the same as Clo or Wrio bursts who are barely worth their cast time. And since its also replacing her turret for the duration it has additional opportunity cost aswell

[rotund drum]

clo/wrio tier damage on ult for turret subdps with 50 energy cost sounds good to me

[oak copper]

sounds like a button you just skip

[blissful tulip]

Finally never have to fight this boss again

What a pain

[rotund drum]

wait till they add him to abyss

[blissful tulip]

Oh, he'll be much easier

[floral bone]

isnt him there already?

[blissful tulip]

Don't think it will have Dif4+ moveset

[blissful tulip]

In Hazard zone, they mean

[floral bone]

i mean isnt the monkey then aix on the hazard zone?

for the middle tower

[karmic crag]

yinlin is tomorrow right

[kind turtle]

going by the time listed on the announcement it should be 3h

but i can't check the in game details rn

[stuck wharf]

it's 27h

I'm pretty sure

[kind turtle]

the announcement says June 6, 2024, at 10:00 (UTC+8) which is <t:1717639200>

[blissful tulip]

You've made me upset with these news , but I doubt I have a third team ready regardless

[karmic crag]

oh dayum

[oak copper]

yeah, its 27 hours, not 3

[karmic crag]

gotcha

[oak copper]

gotta see if they manage to put both limited Banners next to each other or if Jiyan is suddenly gone and we're up for another compensation

[rotund drum]

its regular aix iirc

super aix is only in hologram i think

[floral bone]

yeah

[rotund drum]

although they'll creep it eventually

[floral bone]

the ones in the tower have the easy move set

and waaay lower dmg too

they dont even one shot my lv 40 +0 echoes sanhua

[rotund drum]

imagine having to fight super aix on a 2 minute timer and like a 5mil hp pool

[kind turtle]

btw where did you see this?

[floral bone]

uhhh

today is the 4th

[kind turtle]

oh

the fact that i cant tell the time

[floral bone]

lmao

[oak copper]

in-game notifications, game tab, Version Update & Event Content Adjustment Notice

[kind turtle]

my time rn

didnt notice that it had actually gone past the hour

[rotund drum]

kinda wish more devs would just do what real people do and put the timezone in their home country's language

converting from china or japan time isnt that hard

no one knows what a UTC is or where it is

maybe whatever country it actually matches up with does

[stuck wharf]

are you in the future

wtf time zone is this lol

[kind turtle]

uk 😭

[stuck wharf]

oh no

you poor soul

[rotund drum]

arent video games banned there

[kind turtle]

i dont believe they are

i have been playing them for a while

[rotund drum]

you need an ID i think

so they can monitor your social credit

i remember the helldivers guy wondering what was so hard about just signing up for a psn account and people had to explain to him that in the UK and EU the political commissars control all your online activity so its not that easy

not that the US is much better tbh

[kind turtle]

it wasn't a problem in the EU at all

every EU country has free access to creating a PSN account

but its the other 180 countries that you can't make a PSN account

[rotund drum]

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/support/account/age-verification-faq/ i guess its just UK

[kind turtle]

as someone who's had a PSN account since i was 13 there is no issues

[karmic crag]

do i still get those purple points if a repeat a difficulty

[rotund drum]

no

its one-time only

[karmic crag]

dang

[rotund drum]

thats why the shop doesnt reset

[karmic crag]

ahhh right

[rotund drum]

abyss shop resets though

[vapid river]

why don't they give jiyan his sig in the questline?

they give him discord

bullshit

[edgy cobalt]

discord

https://tenor.com/view/solunary-discord-discordian-discordia-neveah-gif-27558501

[neat robin]

I can never remember
Jiyan is one Liberation hit then all Heavy dmg
Is Cal considered Liberation or Heavy or is it split scaling

[vapid river]

i think cal is liberation

at least his dodge counter is

but the hounds roar attacks are considered basic atk dmg

when in res liberation

but at s6 he creates two phantoms and the damage those do is considered res liberation dmg

but they scale off his atk

then there's so

so yeah ig

conditionally considered liberation

[neat robin]

So normal attacks are heavy
The bonus electro stuff is liberation

[blissful tulip]

Neat

Absolutely no chance of me getting 21*

[edgy cobalt]

15-18 stars is usual for this week

I’ve been at 15 since last week maybe I should try 18

[blissful tulip]

After UL40 it's much simpler

You'll get quite the damage boost from second passive + general level scaling

After I get the 5* gun I'll likely try Dif 6 Heron and Dif 5 Mephis

I'll leave the Dif 6 versions of them to UL50

The DPS requirements are immense

[night mantle]

yeah I am also waiting for ul 40

prob will get it from tomorrows yilin quest

[burnt brook]

when exactly yinlin's banner?

[quasi sable]

Tomorrow

6th June

[rigid shore]

Lmao

[burnt brook]

okie ty

[night mantle]

exactly after 24hours and 14minutes

[lament shuttle]

Yinlin banner: <t:1717639200:R> or <t:1717639200:F> as shown in your local time

[night mantle]

or that yeah

[blissful tulip]

Does ER also increase forte gain as well as liberation ult charge?

I'm not so sure on that

[edgy cobalt]

if you mean concerto energy then no

ie. verina gaining 30 concerto energy from skill regardless if you have er% stats or not

[quasi sable]

Wait fr?

[edgy cobalt]

being fr

er only applies for ult/liberation

[edgy cobalt]

I just had to get better echoes I think I can hit 18/30 without needing UL40 ngl

and better rotations

sike I already did

[rigid shore]

@small bronze i think they fixed central plains and wuming bay

u can 100% them now

they show as 100% for me now and i did absolutely nothing

[small bronze]

i will check it out soon just gonna check if i lose 50/50 clorinde

oh true they fixed it mine jumped from 99 to 100 too

[rigid shore]

reeeeeeee

[knotty fiber]

if someone says this puzzle is easy lmao

[rigid shore]

its easy

just follow the blue stuff

follow the thingy in front of the other box first then the flowers then the other circle

[barren drift]

oh this one that gets u the guide crystal thing right

u just gotta match the pattern right iirc

[edgy cobalt]

I remember finding that puzzle easy yeah

[rigid shore]

wait

how do you have 120fps cap

[quasi sable]

You can download one

[rigid shore]

are you not even stuttering

oh

[knotty fiber]

I'm not using the unlocker

I changed the database file

[quasi sable]

Wait what

[rigid shore]

ohh that

[quasi sable]

How?

[rigid shore]

the notepad file in the thingy

[knotty fiber]

I find Genshin's easier

[rigid shore]

u could change the LoDs in too

[knotty fiber]

unlocking that 2nd cube is weird

[quasi sable]

But will the stuttering still there?

[rigid shore]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1d07cku/ue4_engine_tweaks_to_improve_visuals_and_reduce/

[knotty fiber]

the stuttering has never been very often to me

it's not stable 120fps also

very unstable

at least for me

[rigid shore]

what cpu?

[knotty fiber]

12600k

[rigid shore]

oh

[knotty fiber]

even 13700H

isn't stable

[rigid shore]

damn

what is this game

[quasi sable]

Wait, does it work?

[knotty fiber]

this game is just weird

[rigid shore]

seems like you shouldn't anymore

i tried it

i might revert my stuff

[quasi sable]

Thank god I asked first

[rigid shore]

u basically go to the config folder and u can change fps cap to 120 or any

engine.ini i think

[rigid shore]

well its a ue4 game if optimized corectly it runs really well on msot computers if not well it runs shit even on the best ones

[quasi sable]

I still don't understand how it works

[knotty fiber]

I haven't tried this

and I'm not sure if I should

[rigid shore]

there is a file in Wuthering Waves\Wuthering Waves Game\Client\Saved\Config that you can edit to modify ingame stuff

Level of details, sfx, antialiasing, etc etc.

[quasi sable]

No I meant like

How this game stutter

[rigid shore]

very unoptimized

it doesn't use the gpu that well

you can see ur gpu usage go up and down alot

[quasi sable]

I see

Can it be fixed?

[rigid shore]

the only solution is playing another game (atleast works for me sometimes)

to force the gpu at 100%

if even a 12600k cant keep stable framerates game is fucked

[quasi sable]

I'm just hoping it'll work on mine

Even with 8gb ram

[rigid shore]

[knotty fiber]

so I'm using that tweak rn

looking pretty good so far?

more stable fps

at least when not fighting

[rigid shore]

yeah but its pretty risky tho

[knotty fiber]

still quite fucked

4 entities drop to 90fps

lol

which was what happened to me before the tweak

[rigid shore]

icant

even tweaks doesn't help

[naive basin]

i have to delete all my commands now

kuro is never getting my money

imma go buy a welkin rq

im assuming they will never follow through with a ini file related ban

but just in case

[barren drift]

btw does anyone know if the somnoire will refresh (the su like thing)

[naive basin]

before anyone @'s me to tell me command adjusting is equivalent to cheating

[knotty fiber]

I know

[naive basin]

fortnite allows it

so does apex

[knotty fiber]

and I don't give a fuck

[naive basin]

based

[knotty fiber]

cuz ppl are using hacks and they don't even get banned

[naive basin]

i'll keep a backup for my files

[knotty fiber]

unlocked fps? not banned

[naive basin]

but i'll probably use the default files

[knotty fiber]

if making the game experience = bannable then this game might as well EoS

not even Genshit or HSR dare to ban

[naive basin]

If they follow through with the bans I hope they EoS

[knotty fiber]

💀 believe it or not someone reported to hyv a video of someone using hacks and stuffs but they never got banned

[naive basin]

user restriction on a whole nother level

not even funny

[knotty fiber]

that's why I don't give a fuck

if I get banned, that's it

the experience was just

terrible

I had to change shit

to make it playable

[naive basin]

I invested my 2 weeks of time that i had during semesters into playing this game so i'll keep playing to see how it goes

I only support games that allow for file modification

[knotty fiber]

ok but after changing some stuffs following the guide

it's actually more stable now

[naive basin]

yeah it should be

[knotty fiber]

better looking images

more stable fps

despite not 110+

but more stable than before

[naive basin]

watch the same problem happen when i upgrade from an mx330 to a 4050

open game

[knotty fiber]

everything is better in general

[naive basin]

stuttering for 30 seconds

load in

stuttering for 3 hours

[knotty fiber]

💀

[naive basin]

wuwa is the bane of ram

[knotty fiber]

also the guy had the one for the issue I was having

[naive basin]

I have never seen a single game use so much ram

ever

[knotty fiber]

he had the fix for unsmoothing mouse camera

I tried it

and holy shit it worked

[naive basin]

yeah i have that too

[knotty fiber]

I had to tone down the mouse sensitivity in the game

[naive basin]

it's so much better to control

[knotty fiber]

cuz it's so much better now that 75 was too fast

[naive basin]

when the mouse doesn't feel like it will give me mousepad burns

[knotty fiber]

for some reason

same spot

but on my laptop it uses 5gb

on PC only this

probably because my laptop is 2k?

[naive basin]

2k as in

resolution

[knotty fiber]

yeah

[naive basin]

or cost

no

screen resolution shouldn't affect the

ram usage

only vram

that's a gpu bound thing

i play on like 540p

wuwa uses like 8gb of ram

on it's own

[knotty fiber]

💀 wtf how did you even reach 8

[naive basin]

imagine your game being so optimised that it eats a whole stick of ram for breakfast

[naive basin]

not even games that look a hundred times better push that limit

[naive basin]

idk

memory leak issue

it will start at like 2.5gb

and then over like 2 hours it will eventually hit

max ram usage

and just stay there forever

with like 200mb fluctuations

[barren drift]

[naive basin]

most stable looking wuwa performance statistics

on my laptop it would be like 70% cpu but the cpu is downclocked by 2ghz for some reason
8gb ram usage
99% GPU on 540p with 45 fps

the only thing that makes sense here is the GPU issue

because my gpu is trash

but why is my cpu downclocked by 2ghz

[barren drift]

this is aft i enabled oc

[naive basin]

and why does it throttle to 400mhz when i push it

https://tenor.com/view/yinlin-wuwa-wuthering-waves-kuro-kuro-games-gif-6872745150005387563

[barren drift]

2.9 did not work for me

god

[naive basin]

max vram is real

[barren drift]

literally had so many stutters

[naive basin]

memory clock go crazy

[barren drift]

my fans dont even go this fast when in hsr

[knotty fiber]

I still don't know why I can't push my GPU to use more

💀

[barren drift]

on hsr i can work it full max settings and have little to no fps drops

[knotty fiber]

is it just that unoptimized

[naive basin]

kuro hired people who make script mods that take 6 months with memory leaks for games to make wuwa

"kuro hire this man"

i think they did

[naive basin]

varies from device to device

friend with 3060 experiences minor frame drops

that's it

game runs smooth as butter

[knotty fiber]

same LOL

my friend has 3060

[naive basin]

other friend with 3050 says stuttering quite often

[knotty fiber]

and he has very little game drop

[barren drift]

he's cooked

[knotty fiber]

and mine is fucking 4070S

[naive basin]

friend with 5700xt moved his game to an SSD

and it's fine

[naive basin]

that laptop is ewaste

[barren drift]

😭

[naive basin]

i would be surprised if it can open excel and chrome

[barren drift]

the tech help channel is on fire 24/7

its actl funny

[naive basin]

thankfully im only gtech

and not wuwa tech

if i was wuwa tech i would quit

too many people who don't know what they are doing

and too many people who know what they are doing getting blocked

[barren drift]

opening map

my fans are still running WSSHHHHHH

[naive basin]

i have this thing running at 1200 rpm under my laptop

CPU still downclock by 2ghz

yes that grey rectangle is memory foam

insulated cooling

most optimised game of 2024 award

[barren drift]

😭

[barren drift]

how much this

i might want a new laptop fan

this one is kinda doodoo

[naive basin]

my only theory is that dell's voltage regulator for the CPU is hyper aggressive

and even like 2 watts above the regular allotted TDP would cause it to throttle all the way back down

[naive basin]

i bought it on lazada thailand while it was on discount

on amazon it's 110 USD

but i got mine for like

50ish

[blissful tulip]

Even my laptop can run the game better

[naive basin]

opening the map on an m1 ipad drops your framerate

[rigid shore]

i heard people saying the stuttering is caused by the game reading and writing almost all the time

[naive basin]

idek if that's kuro's fault or apple's fault

[blissful tulip]

Especially annoying when you have to reposition your lootmapper consistently

[naive basin]

on pc we dont even talk about map issues

my game freezes opening the map

occasionally

[rigid shore]

same even character tab

[naive basin]

i'm running the game

off an m.2 NVME SSD

[rigid shore]

[naive basin]

so it's not a

storage issue

[barren drift]

[rigid shore]

damnt has actually not bad

[naive basin]

yeah i had to take money out of my budget

and eat ramen for 3 days

[rigid shore]

how good is it tho

compared to just lifting it up with some books

[naive basin]

roughly a 10 degree decrease by just opening the fan to 1k rpm

on a full plastic cover

on gaming laptops with vented back panels

at least 20 degrees

[rigid shore]

damn thas really good

my old laptop is always at like 80c playing genshin only

well it died trying to run wuwa

[barren drift]

[naive basin]

my back panel is fully plastic and it has a

5cmx2cm vent

near the heatsink

that's it

nothing else

and the fan at 1.2k rpm decreases the temps to around 70c

[rigid shore]

tbf its a 2014 laptop and ive been gaming on it since

what if you remove the back panel?

[barren drift]

dont?

[rigid shore]

does it produce moist?

[barren drift]

it will disturb airflow no?

i dont klnow

feelsthinking

[naive basin]

if i could game without the back panel i would

honestly

[rigid shore]

why do you not then?

[naive basin]

because dust exists

[barren drift]

plus u can blow more dust into ur system

[rigid shore]

oh make sense

[naive basin]

and also circuit boards exist

motherboard circuits dont do well with dust

and air

[rigid shore]

yeah thas gonna short

im dum