・wuwa-lounge

[ruby rune]

isnt that good tho?

[night mantle]

this is a good piece

[kind turtle]

if it wasnt my third one

my og

[night mantle]

nothing bad in that

[kind turtle]

the new one i got for encore half an hour ago

[ruby rune]

oh thats why

[night mantle]

damn

[ruby rune]

also where are the last 2 constellations of spectro mc?

[night mantle]

I know one you get from guidebook

I from the little roboat

[kind turtle]

i think c4 is just the cap rn

[night mantle]

maybe

[ruby rune]

like I have these 2 already

then theres the 2 from quests

[night mantle]

I am also on C4

and havoc mc is C2

although havoc mc is far more better then spectro

[ruby rune]

SHE USES SCAR

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I enjoy spectro more than havoc so I prefer spectro

[night mantle]

nice

yeah spectro is scar and havoc is dreamless

[ruby rune]

ok yeah fck that I have to farm scar either way

encore and jianxin needs him too

baizhi and mortefi needs bellborne and I have extras from farming for verina so Im still fine

the teams I'll prolly play for now are
encore jianxin/morteffi verina
baizhi spectro mc and whoever's not picked

I can build yangyang too but that means I sac mortefi for now

but thats me next saturday's problem

my goal rn is just to get data bank 5stars everything

[rotund drum]

databank caps at 18 anyway so w/e

[night mantle]

rn I think max ul is 36

[ruby rune]

its for the creation thingy

[night mantle]

so prob next week people will hit 40 and thus db 20

[ruby rune]

cus creation only creates 5star echoes you have

[night mantle]

no

[kind turtle]

on f2p status

[ruby rune]

does it not?

[kind turtle]

no

it does random

after hitting db15, i used it to go straight to 17

[night mantle]

data merge can provide new 5 star echos of common and elite if you have purple ones of them

[ruby rune]

thats news to me

cus I've only gotten the ones I had

welp time to start merging

[night mantle]

need more news?

on echos

[rotund drum]

you still wanna save them once you hit 17 since it'll go up to 80% rate at 19

but i would get 17 first since the 5* rate is realy bad otherwise

you'll accumulate a bunch of trash echoes between now and ar40 anyway

they may also nerf echoes and/or encore then we'll have to get new ones

[midnight bloom]

Feels Wuwa Man

[ruby rune]

do i get data bank exp if I get a new echo from this?

[kind turtle]

yeah

[ruby rune]

that makes more sense now

I was like wondering Im getting new sht but my data bank isnt moving

turns out you have to exit everything

before it register

this was sitting at 110 while I was data merging then I exited and the exp started flooding

couldve just let the exp happen while I was merging but apparently not

12 more non bosses

[rotund drum]

the bosses are actually probably easier

60% average droprate and you can just afk at their spawn point

dont need to reload game like in genshit

they'll immediately reappear once spawn timer runs out

[midnight bloom]

Can you link this doc

[ruby rune]

yeah

but I'll do it tomorrow

Im bedge

[kind turtle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1liKAACsG0QIwTdHwHnYU748jBJnACKXu_nd7GjKQkx0/edit#gid=1652727987

[midnight bloom]

Oh, so it's a linear increase

[midnight bloom]

At what UL can you lvl90 your chars

[kind turtle]

assuming it's every 10 levels

[blissful tulip]

The fact that I have the dps to beat Dif 5 Aix but the stuttering and jank makes it more difficult than necessary

What a feeling

[midnight bloom]

dont think it will be like that

[rigid shore]

The fuck is ul80 for then

Oh wait

U can 90 characters at ar45 then world level increases until 55

same same but different alright

[slate haven]

What is the easiest place to farm 3 random echos for the podcast pioneer task, im tired of running around just for dailies

[rigid shore]

Just track some echoes

[slate haven]

it has 20% drop rate, any place we can gaurentee lot of little echos nearby?

[rotund drum]

The dreamless area has a lot of random fatui hanging around

[midnight bloom]

[blissful tulip]

I'm so happy I managed it

[midnight bloom]

[hollow gorge]

hello guys, is there anyone who benefits from Basic Attack DMG bonus among current DDs? I assume Encore should benefit from it?

[blissful tulip]

Ling Yang and on-field Havoc Rover

@dense elbow https://x.com/fobm4ster/status/1796384095989366880

fobm4ster (@fobm4ster) on X

Union Level 40 Tacet Field drops
Maybe we wait for union level 50 :)

Twitter · May 31, 2024, 3:31 AM

[dense elbow]

hardly better but we're already farming it for u30 so

[blissful tulip]

Seems to be a 50% increase from UL30 at least

[lament shuttle]

Such copium holy

[blissful tulip]

Or maybe not 50%, more like 33%+

[lament shuttle]

Ul50 is like 20 days away

Guess I finish calchero and then just farm up mats to get to lvl 80 🫠

[floral bone]

surely it will be 25 tunings at u60...

[dense elbow]

the exp can be earnt elsewhere

the tuners is just sad

😭

dw once we get max union level itll be worth it

[restive pivot]

Still havent used my selector. Who should i get? Already have s0 jiyan, s0 calcharo, s0 verina.

[blissful tulip]

Encore or Jianxin are your best choices

[dense elbow]

^^

theres some advice in pins but id say encore or jianxin in ur scenario

encore if u want / need a 3rd dmg dealer

jianxin if youd like a more supportive char

[restive pivot]

wuwa abyss needs 3 full teams right?

[dense elbow]

mhm

[restive pivot]

i’ll sleep on it

not everyday we get a 5* selector

[rotund drum]

i guess its not the worst droprate if it caps at like 40-50k

i forget if tacet field is 40 or 60 cost but wuwa resin regens faster than genshit

[dense elbow]

60 cost

so 6 hours worth of waveplates

[rotund drum]

so it probably about breaks even

[dense elbow]

i mean

the issue is the dogshit amount of tuners it gives lol

the exp is shit too but the tuners are the main selling point

[rotund drum]

i think genshit is also about 5 hours for one run and you'll be doing a lot to get enough fodder to +20 one piece

we're all used to having lots of surplus stored up but its slower than it looks

although genshit has investigation runs i guess

[dense elbow]

genshin is about 5.33 hours per 40 resin run

but if i want i can go and farm arti exp from the teapot, as well as the open world with artifact routes

and i can use my lower rarity artifacts as fodder

[rotund drum]

its basically 5 runs to full tune an echo which is still less than how many runs it usually takes in genshit

and xp is recyclable if it comes down to it i guess

[dense elbow]

doesnt make it any better

[hollow gorge]

They should be giving tuners in every event

[dense elbow]

coz i not only need to wait longer

but also need to go out of my way to farm the echoes separately

5 runs at 60 waveplates is 300 waveplates, equalling 1800 minutes or 30 hours for 1 echo level up, ignoring all the extra overworld farming
genshin 5 run at 40 resin is 200 resin, equalling 1600 minutes or 26.67 hours if they were equivalent, but i also dont need to go farming the overworld for my gear in the first place

saving almost 4 hours per artifact is pretty significant in itself

then theres the fact that you need to go farming for those echoes in wuwa in the first place

[rotund drum]

thats assuming equivalence in number of runs which is generous to say the least

[dense elbow]

yeah and id bet genshins is more efficient due to the extra sources of EXP

[hollow gorge]

honestly, just to get a decent 3substat echo you need 60 echoes and like 120 tunings. And that could be called an entry level endgame echo

just for a single echo

[dense elbow]

3 cost echoes are so shit we're honestly considering not assuming double crit stats on them in calcs

[rotund drum]

wuwa sub rolls actually seem a bit better since the variance on the subs is less severe and there's a bigger pool of potentially decent rolls

since there are damage subs too

[dense elbow]

which may or may not be useful to your character

[rotund drum]

in genshit you basically need a straight run on the subs

usually cr/cd/atk then er or em

or some combination thereof

theres usually only 4, maybe 5 stats that you want so you basically need to win every roll

[dense elbow]

if your idea of a usable artifact is effectively a perfect stat line then damn

idk i dont see what there is to defend about either system honestly

theyre both shit in different ways

[rotund drum]

i mean lets say you're willing to settle for just cr and cd in genshit

[dense elbow]

by design, this system of gearing isnt meant to be good

[hollow gorge]

well, with how few sources of ER and Cr there are in the game, you basically need them on your echoes

[rotund drum]

you still have to farm for mainstat and set bonus

then get the cr/cd on the subs

[dense elbow]

im talking their idea of a usable genshin artifact here, not echoes

[rotund drum]

then hope for good upgrades

in wuwa your mainstat and set are already "free" so you just need to hit the subs

and once you hit the subs the range is only 1-2x

compared to like 1-5x on genshit

[hollow gorge]

they are not free per se. They cost you farming time

[rotund drum]

well its a grinding game

i dont even use my resin in genshit anymore really

star fail is a bit better since you can auto it but that was already kind of an afk autobattler from the start

[kind turtle]

UL30 drops are also semi-randomized

[hollow gorge]

yes, I counted I need at least 30 hours of farming to get a 3stat CR main Dreamless at this point with average luck. And Dreamless is the easiest echo to farm. That's just too much grind

[kind turtle]

from a range of 19k>26k XP i believe

so its not a 50% increase

both of those drops are actually less than the UL30 cap

top is 22k, and bottom is 25k

the tuner increase is the best part of it

[rotund drum]

that doesnt sound right lol

idk if its weighted but there's 7 mainstats so 1/7 chance to get it on a 5* drop

[kind turtle]

the CR mainstat drop rate seems to be about 1 in 18.5% chance

[rotund drum]

then its 5 rolls on 13 possible subs and only 3 would have to "win"

[blissful tulip]

I was wrong on that, yes, I had mentioned 33%+ instead

But if it's not even 33%+

That is worrying

[kind turtle]

then the chance to get a crit rate drop with a crit roll on first substat is ~~1.43%~~2.85%, or within first two substats should be ~~2.97%~~5.94% (? my maths might be wrong on that)

so that is 70 attempts avg for a crit roll on first, or 33 for acrit roll by 2nd

[rotund drum]

oh if youre aiming for it on the first 3 rolls yeah

[gray gulch]

hello

[rotund drum]

your math is still off though

[kind turtle]

at optimal farming rate i was doing 2 dreamless per minute, so that would be 35m for roll on first or 16m for roll on 2nd
getting a second crit roll is some probability stuff i've never learnt so i cant go further

[rotund drum]

you dont need to get CR as your first roll

it can be any of the 3

[kind turtle]

2

but yeah

that is wrong actually

[kind turtle]

half those numbers

[rotund drum]

so if i understand correctly you're comparing it to getting a 3-sub starter piece with cr/cd in genshit

[kind turtle]

i think dreamless is the only echo that drop farming is actually reasonable

[rotund drum]

so you would level a piece to +15 and see if it gets cr+cd in the first 3 rolls to decide its worth to keep going

in which case its 1/7 chance x .6 x 5* droprate (which is 80% at ar40) to get the cr mainstat

then you have to win 2/3 rolls at 2/13 rate each

second roll would be 1/12 i guess

[kind turtle]

i think crit drop rate is slightly higher than 1/7, i've got ~37.5% drop chance for any crit which is 18.75% per, meanwhile hbonus is ~11.5% rate over 200 runs / 62 5* attempts

[rotund drum]

so about 6.8% chance for CR mainstat 5*

[midnight bloom]

my only problem is echo exp, others are negligible

but i heard it gets better on higher UL

[kind turtle]

it can be worse than ul30

[gray gulch]

same issue here

[rotund drum]

so if my math is correct its about 6% chance for a piece to hit both CR and CD in 3 substat rolls

im not sure it is though

and if you do all 5 rolls your odds go up significantly

[kind turtle]

i attempted to ask chatgpt about it but it went as well as expected

[hollow gorge]

the problem is, I don't have a luxury to level for 3 sub rolls. So I need first two sub rolls to hit either CR, CD or ER, which is a bit worse odds 3/13 * 2/12

[kind turtle]

yeah i'm doing first crit roll, 2nd useful roll

if it doent hit either it's binned

[rotund drum]

well at this point i just go all in and dont worry about the subs

once we hit max AR it should be a lot easier to just dump on echo mats

[kind turtle]

maybe it gets worse each UL

[rotund drum]

assuming the game doesnt EOS before then

for the time being though im settling for +25 with correct mainstat and set bonus and whatever subs i can get on it

going by PGR they'll nerf/creep the entire system pretty soon anyway so no point in worrying too much about getting good echoes

its like trying to minmax your diluc or seele

[hollow gorge]

tbh, 3 subs is not even min maxing. It's just a necessity, since atm there are very few ER and CR sources

[midnight bloom]

you gotta have at least 3 useful stats than 3 waste stats

[lament shuttle]

Think on diff pieces you need diff expectations

3 cost 1-2 useful lines is fine

1 cost 2-3 useful is prob min

4 cost 2-3 also

[rotund drum]

getting 3 out of 5 good rolls is one thing

hoping to have your first 3 rolls be good ones so you dont have to spend the last 20 tuners to find out if the last two are any good is another

[kind turtle]

yeah i'm lucky my encore is built now, 93/206 when i get yinlin sig on 43311, i'm happy

[lament shuttle]

Its combinatorics problem with two steps

It’s gonna be ass but tbh we’re still only at the point where we’re lvling dps stuff

On supports the subs outside of ER don’t matter as much

[oak copper]

things are gonna relax once UL goes up and you have a solid baseline to work with. Its the same thing every time, At the start of the game you need everything and thus are permanently resource starved.

Only thing that leaves a particularly bad taste in WuWa is that you spend a considerable amount of time grinding out Echoes only to then have levelling them be bottlenecked together with every other resource

you basically play a lot for little to no pay-off rn because of resource gating

Which is only further emphasized by ToA Bosses being huge spikes in difficulty

18*s is very doable and then you just hit a fat brick wall

[kind turtle]

https://vxtwitter.com/Notmdi/status/1796447206796644642?t=0fQuvGK3xE03grjNz8IkIg&s=19

[oak copper]

this game is going places

[blissful tulip]

The return of Gorou

[midnight bloom]

this tech is available in every game btw

[kind turtle]

HSR?

[late gull]

No

Hey

No

[kind turtle]

Hey

No

https://vxtwitter.com/Iyokuu/status/1796242387536130325?t=LUJUSwFv67iqpzogiHwsKg&s=19

[late gull]

Nah

[barren drift]

is this macro stuff?

[kind turtle]

Idk about macro but at least mobile

[barren drift]

iirc there is an autoclicker app for mobile

[kind turtle]

Yeah there is some you can get

[late gull]

I js want 5 star echos 😢

[small bronze]

how do i end up with central plains 98% when i use a map

where are those 4% chests

[barren drift]

some chests do not appear in the mapper

i remember picking some flowers that are placed in a formation spawned a chest

cant rmb where tho

[neat robin]

Whats the levelling priority for havoc mc and danjin?
Gonna start farming that stuff until I get to ul40

[barren drift]

I think hmc has ult > skill > forte> basic? if u're on fielding

[restive pivot]

how about jiyan? Lvl every one equally?

[floral bone]

ult > forte

rest is whatever

[edgy cobalt]

me who doesn’t believe in priority leveling because I’m gonna level up everything till lvl4 anyways

[floral bone]

i mean for lv 4~6 i would just level it too cuz its kinda cheap

past 6 i start to prioritize things

[edgy cobalt]

looks like aix V might be possible

ok it 100% is, I just need to not suck

[vapid river]

you can get more than one 5* from the discount banner

waduhek

[blissful tulip]

Cannot get above 15 unfortunately, but I think that's more than good enough for this state of the game

I am also very upset at seeing the Heron in ToA

[dense elbow]

yeah u can its just its a 0.6% chance twice lmfao

[rigid shore]

Some chest can be obtained from npcs

[vapid river]

would have rather gotten that with jiyan+sig

but i lost the 50/50 to a fucking encore dupe

[dense elbow]

actually i think its more generous than 0.6%

but

you get the point

[oak copper]

0.8%, 33% more. Changes everything!

[edgy cobalt]

same as me, 8 and 7 stars on two towers respectively

18 stars only possible if you're running a calcharo team and s0r1 jiyan team from what I can see rn

[blissful tulip]

Calcharo is honestly a unit I don't like at all, he feels very difficult to play for not much reward

The fact that I got two copies of him as well

I suppose another reason is that my echo luck was very significant on Chixia and Rover

[oak copper]

Same impression, 18 seems fairly doable but beyond that the DPS req spikes are just too high and you're kinda wasting your time trying to even clear it

[ocean talon]

there was LESS THAN ONE SECOND LEFT ON THE 3RD ONE

i barely did it

[blissful tulip]

Chixia and Rover got the long end of the stick

[oak copper]

Although I guess a lot can still happen in 1 1/2 weeks to get 21 somehow if you really push a Team for it. Seems like a very disproportionate amount of effort for the extra 3 stars though

[edgy cobalt]

s0r1 jiyan right

[ocean talon]

s1r1

all early

f2p btw

[blissful tulip]

Honestly want to go for the pistol as Chixia feels so comfortable to play for me

Especially on mobile

[edgy cobalt]

I wanna complain but I hit an early 50/50 lost to s1 verina so

and I still have my 2 selectors saved

because I'm debating whether to collect all standard units when possible or just go calcharo and s2 verina

[ocean talon]

its not bad

[edgy cobalt]

did you use your selector on s1 verina or you got lucky again lmao

[blissful tulip]

Her S2 looks fantastic

[dense elbow]

🔥

[edgy cobalt]

that kind of luck is illegal

but yes s2 verina is the best sequence out of all the standard characters

[ocean talon]

used the ticket to get her s1, i originally got her by losing my 50/50 after getting s0 jiyan

[edgy cobalt]

fair

having quicker access to outro and more healing opportunities sounds really good for me so that's why I'm debating on using one of my selectors

and the fact that she's just
the best support in the game and s2 futureproofs her stay

[blissful tulip]

I believe S2 allows her to consistently activate outro every time she enters the field after CD

At S0, it feels like you have to wait a rotation

[edgy cobalt]

definitely feels like having to wait for a rotation

[oak copper]

Variation can help with that but it can still be a bit sluggish

[edgy cobalt]

the game also gave me s5 variation too

just from pulling the selector banner

its so weird

[ocean talon]

wuwa enemies act like they're in genshin

TF U MEAN UR IN A CORNER WAITING FOR EVERYONE ELSE TO DIE

[ocean talon]

well

RIGHT B4 THE FUVKING

OMG

WEEKLY LIMIY

[floral bone]

have you any of the seasonal ones to complete yet?

[ocean talon]

and then there were 3

[rain briar]

where tf is this tacet field

[barren drift]

underground

[edgy cobalt]

follow the stream, it should lead you to a cave

[burnt shoal]

where monthly reset

[edgy cobalt]

since the beginning of the game the shop lasted around 40 days

so its still continuing from may iirc

[rain briar]

thanks

[stuck wharf]

patchly reset aware

[blissful tulip]

Wonder why I got lucky on her of all characters

[thorny niche]

what is the recommended system requirements for WUWA ?

[barren drift]

nasa supr computer

[keen aspen]

how do you get echo exp?

[barren drift]

uh

its so scarce rn

only daillies and tacet fields

we should get more after we get ul 40++

[thorny niche]

i have a good enough computer to run rdr2 smoothy but this game stutters quite often

[barren drift]

exactly

shit optimization

[keen aspen]

any tacet field?

[rigid shore]

game runs on ue4

and as you know most ue4 games are shit unoptimized

even if the devs are given tons of fuckin tools to optimize the game they never do

these lazy ass mfs

[ornate basalt]

https://twitter.com/Notmdi/status/1796447206796644642?t=hF13lou6Fad9X3qzD24zzg&s=19

Dim (@Notmdi) on X

Chixia got an assault rifle

(stole from friend)

Twitter · May 31, 2024, 7:42 AM

Flashbacks to Fischl ARCC

[small bronze]

i will not sleep today

[proper thunder]

What s a good team dor jiyan

If I don t have verina

Would jiyan morteffi and jianxin work?

Since I heard jianxin shields and also heals

[blissful tulip]

Jianxin takes some time to perform her magic, Baizhi is a more comfortable and faster option

[small bronze]

btw i just read that its not possible to 100% central plains for anyone wondering... its supposedly behind a quest or something related to yinlin

so if anyone is stuck at 99% dont worry cause i just spent 2 hours looking

also, best calcharo team from these?

i never see chixia played and i thought about it cause i got her c6 lol

i guess she doesent give any buffs so her c6 wont be enough

[rigid shore]

shit is traumatizing me

idek where the fuck that 1% is

JINZHOU? CENTRAL PLAINS WHERE THE FUCK

[small bronze]

from what i read only central plains and wuming are not 100% able, good luck with that jhinzou but im not sure

probably some quest reward you didnt do since jhinzou has shit ton of quest markers

[rigid shore]

my friend 100%'d jinzhou

im thinking it must be quest related

[rigid shore]

yea

[small bronze]

also there is one that you do twice

the one to not climb challenge

you can do twice

next to synthetizer, you can try that

[rigid shore]

ohh

ill try

[small bronze]

somewhere here on the roof

[rigid shore]

how much is wuming max?

like to how much can i max it?

[small bronze]

central plains 99 and wuming 98 from what i read

[rigid shore]

HuTaoThink

[small bronze]

i just got jinzhou to 100 too, good luck

[blissful tulip]

The more I fight Mephis the more I wish they toned down the SFX

And the inconsistencies in parry timing

[naive basin]

ya'll where is the shop reset

i open store both pulls are missing

[blissful tulip]

Resets every patch only

[naive basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/204500965020270592/1058355597243842600/8A8276EB-F50F-4251-B87A-606B3AA16056.gif

im going to start tweaking

[blissful tulip]

Thank the lords, finally

[burnt shoal]

does that game mode reset every week

and give primogem

[kind turtle]

no, once only

[lament shuttle]

calchero - jianxin - baizhi

[burnt shoal]

i used data bank crafting

I went from data bank 15 to half way 16

so cool

im almost 17 now

[timid sierra]

yeah i data bank crafted all my blue echos and now all my purple and shit yellow echos

got me loads of exp for data bank

[sage wharf]

Any news or leak about 1.1 characters kit ?

[dense elbow]

absolutely nothing

once there is stuff ill pin it here

[sage wharf]

very helpful, Thank you very much.
that's will help a lot to chose weapon from standard and BP

[neat robin]

I’m prob gonna aim for standard 5* sword for havoc mc

But I like the pistol..

[blissful tulip]

Chixia is improving in a lot of people's eyes, but Rover has more immediate potential

Who were you planning to get the pistol for?

[dense elbow]

shes improving with the mobile slowdown tech

[blissful tulip]

I can relate

[dense elbow]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SassyElatedAntelopeM4xHeh-dn0hySV1mFcQg8I_

https://fixupx.com/taka_hashio/status/1796825342998679597

also this lmfao

[blissful tulip]

I meant in general

[graceful jetty]

minecraft PVPers on fire

[dense elbow]

hey im giving her a legit use here

[graceful jetty]

I didn't play so much cookie clicker for nothing

[floral bone]

not the slow bug + chixia macro

3* guaranteed

[blissful tulip]

I'd do the tech but it feels unnecessarily difficult to perform on mobile, I'd rather do it on a tablet

[dense elbow]

i hate this game

[oak copper]

when WuWa Amber starts destroying the game bit by bit

[timid sierra]

LMAO why is tha so funny

[kind turtle]

chixia za fucking warudo?

[neat robin]

Mortefi

[ruby rune]

ok weekly bosses not giving character exp is a crime

I'd honestly take character exp than 4star echoes tuner

nvm I'm just unlucky

its not a fcking guarantee drop

[timid sierra]

theres gotta be something in the future about this

700 blue tuners, 800 purple tuners, and 0 gold tuners

woe is i

[neat robin]

Need to be able to fuse them up

[blissful tulip]

Could try going for the sword while choosing the pistol, although the sword is more recommended in general as Rover's more of a main DPS

[neat robin]

Echo farming, amazing
Echo upgrading, dying

[timid sierra]

this echo upgrading shit feels so upsetting

[ruby rune]

like its easier to get a 5star

than getting a good sub + enough tuners

[timid sierra]

im in actual poverty from these echos

2k coins, no more exp, no more tuners

[neat robin]

Yeah thats why I’m gonna go for sword
Maybe catalyst thing after if i cant get yinlins sig

[blissful tulip]

Honestly want to go for the pistol for Chixia but it's mainly due to "lucky artifact bias"

She does more in comparison to everyone else in my roster

[timid sierra]

i think im gonna get the sword from the 5* selector and then im going for the broadblade in the standard weapon banner

for hrover and calcharo

so who do i use bp or the 4* lampylumen selector for...

[neat robin]

Ohh roght ul45? for weapon selector hm

[hollow gorge]

isn't ul45 like 2-3 weeks away for most people?

[hollow gorge]

purple echoes are viable too, because the substat value doesn't depend on rarity, and you get way more sub rerolls with purples

[small bronze]

can you farm echos infinitely with just worse odds?

like in the world outside domains?

[hollow gorge]

hell, I am still using a blue lvl 15 echo that I got in the beginning, because it got 10 ER and 9 CR and 18 CD rolls

[kind turtle]

yeah

farming echoes outside of tacet domains is the only way to get any

[lament shuttle]

Domains aren’t any better on avg to my knowledge so overworld is more consistent

[somber willow]

oh tacet fields are much better

[kind turtle]

in what way?

[lament shuttle]

They just aren’t lol

[kind turtle]

6 hours of resin for 0-2 gold echoes

sweet

[edgy cobalt]

they give tuners and echo exp

[somber willow]

idk I can do 2 runs of tacet fields and build 1-2 chars on 5 star echoes

[edgy cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/get-this-man-a-shield-get-this-man-a-true-morgan-freeman-morgan-freeman-true-gif-25958604

[somber willow]

and good echoes at that

[kind turtle]

uh...

idk how you managing that

when 2 tacet fields gives up to 4 gold echoes

i've got 0 gold echoes a few times from them

[edgy cobalt]

I’ve gotten gold echoes from tacet a couple times

its not really the echoes you get from tacet fields thats appealing rn, its the tuners and echo exp you can get

[kind turtle]

yeah tacet fields suck for echoes

their use is the tuners and xp

[edgy cobalt]

thats where all my spare stamina is going

[somber willow]

idk I built 5 chars with tacet fields in the past 3-5 days

[graceful jetty]

s that at max level?

[kind turtle]

current

[edgy cobalt]

I have 4 characters “built” already so I’m just “prefarming”

[kind turtle]

tacet field drop rates dont seem to depend on DB level

[graceful jetty]

maybe it gets better at later levels

[kind turtle]

hopefully

[graceful jetty]

[kind turtle]

but tacet fields are always gonna suck for echoes i believe

[edgy cobalt]

four golds seem common in UL40+

[kind turtle]

🐳?

[edgy cobalt]

saw someone farming it, I’m still UL36

can only get there next week

[kind turtle]

next week still copege

[edgy cobalt]

I still have 9 solvents left so I’ll be around where you at, im also using the same spreadsheet

[graceful jetty]

im ngl i have 5 exams next week so I didn't get to play past act 1 so idek what each thing is 👍

too many levels

too many sources of things

[edgy cobalt]

didn’t log in yet so maybe I’ll be more than halfway to hit 37

[kind turtle]

good luck

[graceful jetty]

4 days until doom

I have 3 on june 5th

[oak copper]

I'd guess the primary reason they reward echoes at all is to give people that primarily log-in for dailies and stuff a source of Echoes, so they aren't "forced" to grind them out directly

[kind turtle]

yeah

[blissful tulip]

Don't think I can beat the Ape and Mephis at this stage, locked by DPS

[kind turtle]

[blissful tulip]

But either way, that was fun, really felt like a CBT2 player

Verina + DPS duo

[oak copper]

every time I contemplate running Aalto with Jiyan for higher "nuke" dmg on Liberation and Skill I get Mortefi sequences. I think the game is trying to tell me something

[blissful tulip]

Heron and the Ape are definitely the most fair and well-designed bosses, even Hologram wise

Mephis and Aix are very poor in comparison

[kind turtle]

on mephis 4 i can't find any DPS window with encore to actually do anything, then a minor messup in timing gets you double ganked

plus whatever the dodge spot on the AoE lightning is supposed to be

[blissful tulip]

https://vxtwitter.com/fobm4ster/status/1796937114812326346

[sterile swallow]

The dodge on the AoE lightning is later than earlier

[blissful tulip]

The fact that you can just cheat/cheese Dif 6

[kind turtle]

😭

[blissful tulip]

Unbelievable

[sterile swallow]

I made the mistake of dodging too early and the party died

[kind turtle]

nah its earlier, the dodge spot is when he stretches his arms well before the attack actually starts

[sterile swallow]

10 or so retries later. Dead Memphis

[kind turtle]

watch out cause kuro might nuke you with these

seem to hate the millions of bugs they put in the game

[blissful tulip]

Not going to go through with it

The one thing this game has over the competition is hologram difficulty and combat

Ruining it will remove any point of this game

[sterile swallow]

Also Illusive realm is fun too

[blissful tulip]

It's fun for the first 4 times, gets very repetitive after

[sterile swallow]

I did all the holograms on diff 4 already. My body is not ready for diff 5

[blissful tulip]

Don't worry, their moves are identical

They just have more HP

[sterile swallow]

Oh lovely. That's good then

[blissful tulip]

As well as debuffs that realistically won't affect your run

[sterile swallow]

I already died enough times from attacks so I know all the attacks now

Tempest mephis and Alx took me 10+ retries so I'm not doing them that's for sure

[blissful tulip]

Aix is a buggy and janky mess, but it has the lowest HP

Based on your investment you'll get used to it

Aix>Heron>Ape>Mephis HP wise for you

[sterile swallow]

Cleared heron on diff 4 on the first try, I dont know why but heron gives you a large window to get free attacks in

The Ape surprised me with the spinning totem 1HKO, so had to retry there several times too

[blissful tulip]

It's a very consistent boss with an understandable moveset, think you'll manage dif 5

But I'd recommend Aix as well

I'm afraid Ape + Mephis will be difficult regarding DPS check

[sterile swallow]

I might just save it for Lv40 after ascending all my DPS/subdps

No rush. Holograms are perm

[blissful tulip]

Wonder if they'll add any in 1.1

But I highly doubt it

[sterile swallow]

They could. Missing half the world bosses

And I know they could do more with bosses like Scar and Dreamless

[kind turtle]

Inferno rider also needs a hologram, though I don't wanna do it with encore

[blissful tulip]

Wonder what they'll come up with for the newer moves, Crownless is already relatively bothersome in illusive realm as a boss

Definitely don't think they'll be adding the ruined mech as a hologram

[sterile swallow]

I noticed there is a lack of support characters in the game
It's really just Verina/Baizhi/Jianxin

Praying Jinhsi is a subdps/support in one character. I will pull

[rotund drum]

yeah they're probably trying to avoid a supportgate early on

[high spindle]

which is better pick?

[blissful tulip]

Whatever fits your roster

[high spindle]

i got no Jiyan so i got zero idea

[blissful tulip]

You normally do not use 3 cost echoes as mains

[high spindle]

like i dont even know what tf they do

[high spindle]

all i know is Cyan is used for Jiyan or something about the rest .. ehh

[blissful tulip]

Don't need to know, you'll mainly be using the 4 cost echoes as your mains, as they boost damage as well upon activation

[high spindle]

my only chars i use is Chalcaro-Encore nd Verina atm

they use their prefered? echos as their mains

[blissful tulip]

Do you feel that you're missing a fusion/electro damage bonus on their sets?

The pack you're choosing right now has a guaranteed elemental dmg bonus

[high spindle]

yea i picked Violet heron from the other selecatble it gave me Electro dmg bonus on Electro set

idk if they are all like that

[blissful tulip]

They are

[high spindle]

ohh okay

[blissful tulip]

The point of them is to reduce the grind

[high spindle]

okay soo i should go with Molten set one for this pick for my Encore i guess

for Fusion bonus

i dont have one on her afterall

[blissful tulip]

If your Calcharo doesn't need anything, it'll work out for you

Good luck on the substats

[high spindle]

flat subs incoming

[high spindle]

idk if this is ok or not but holy hell

okay guess Heron was better compared to this piece of shit

holy hell

[blissful tulip]

Wonder how endgame will be, we're already getting pretty good builds this early

The crit dmg roll in your case is alright

[high spindle]

well at least it has usefull stats atk-reso dmg -crit dmg (where crate )

so yea

at least usefull

the other one tho

[blissful tulip]

Better luck next time

[kind turtle]

My encore is already at single-sub problems, maybe they'll keep the grind going by needing 6 different-element teams for abyss

[blissful tulip]

They very likely will

Considering the resistances

Although they aren't as bad this early on, resistance only seems to be around 30-40%

Expect them to increase to 50%+ in future ToA's

[high spindle]

bdw where u guys use ur resin? like i got no idea what to use it on .. i just go random atm if i dont find a shit i roll with exp matt challange

[blissful tulip]

After character levels and talents, Tacet discords

[high spindle]

like i m taking the game frigin slow cuz work nd other games and shit soo i m not even in a stage where tacet discords drop 5* echos

[blissful tulip]

Take your time, holograms are permanent

And missing ToA isn't as meaningful at this stage of the game

You'll end up with lacking shit to do if you rush

[hollow gorge]

I kinda mostly spend resin on upgrade mats. So bosses and dungeons with upgrade mats

by upgrade I mean breakthrough and ascend mats

[rotund drum]

atm its mostly just echospam

most traces arent really worth for most chars

like jiyan and anke mostly just need skill and ult

and getting those to lv4 is cheap

grinding out the traces for +1% crit rate isnt really worth when you can just level up an echo for +10%

[hollow gorge]

cost wise it is worth it though. You get + 1.2% crit rate for 40 resin, which is 1/7 th of an average 8.5 CR sub. And your chances of getting a CR sub is 1/13 and you need 60 resin for a sub roll

so for a CR sub roll to be worth it, it needs to be cheaper than 280 resin, which is like 5 sub rolls. Plus you need echo exp for that too, which rises the resin cost. So I doubt a sub roll is better than straight bonus to stats, but it is good for at least one complete echo set

[sterile swallow]

At the end you'll get both

[hollow gorge]

but the point is which ones to prioritize

and that's anyones guess

[sterile swallow]

Because getting both Crit substats with other useful substats on all 5 echoes may/may not be a pleasant experience

[rotund drum]

you get tubes and potentially other rolls too

its not just CR

[hollow gorge]

but for that there is enough what the game gives already. If you are spending beyond that you are either min maxing (which is already going way beyond the average cost of a sub roll) or doing something wrong with your echoes

[rotund drum]

lol the game does not give you nearly enough for +25 on everything

[hollow gorge]

you don't need everything. You need a full set of +25 main stats, and for that there is enough resources

[rotund drum]

how many of those do you have

[hollow gorge]

if you want everything, then compare +25 on everything with everything lvled on all characters

[hollow gorge]

I don't have many, because I don't think it is reasonable to get +25 on most echoes at this moment. I have some +25

[rotund drum]

thats probably cause you spent all your resin on a +1.2% CR trace lmao

[hollow gorge]

no, I didn't spend on it either. I have not yet used my resin beyond what is restored daily. I will spend depending on the needs

But from what I have, I could say you could probably get 5-7 +25 echoes, which should be enough

[rotund drum]

thats one char lmao

1.4

you definitely do not have enough

[hollow gorge]

probably more than that actually

that and some +15 and +10 more, and I haven't used abunch of arti exp from the stores. So all in all, you could probably get 10+ of maxed echoes

[rotund drum]

assuming we're only looking at mdps and sdps and supports dont matter atm

thats still 4 chars for 2 teams

thats 20 echoes you could max before you even need to start worrying about optimizing substats

just for the mainstat and whatever you happen to get in subs

there's mortefi and jianxin too

[hollow gorge]

you need a set of artifacts only for one team. Then you can move it to another team, when you use it

[rotund drum]

uh if they happen to be the same element sure

[kind turtle]

5p atk

[rotund drum]

what element even has two mdps

[kind turtle]

but for two teams currently you really need 2 decent havoc sets + a set for another hypercarry

[hollow gorge]

I just use 2xMoonlit and 2xLingering or 5x Lingering, 5x Moonlit and third set is just my best current pieces leftovers

[rotund drum]

that sounds highly sus

the elemental sets are +40% dmg

too good to pass up

[kind turtle]

5x lingering is op, especially if your hyper team is calcharo

[neat robin]

My baizhi has lv0 heal set
Verina on +5
Only 2 big dps units have any +20/25s

[kind turtle]

double dreamless for danjin+mc, and then 5x lingering for any DPS char

plus having the 5p lingering will help for 3rd team

[hollow gorge]

pretty sure I would get more from better sub rolls on only 2 sets than +30% DMG

[kind turtle]

then you can have a full +0 moonlit+rejuv set

[rotund drum]

where are you getting the xp mats for so many sub rolls if not spending resin lmao

did you forget the whole point of this convo was spending resin on traces vs echo mats

[hollow gorge]

there is a ton of xp mats from various in-game stores for non-premium currencies

[neat robin]

Once you have lv4 traces theres nothing to do except farm echo mats until ul40
The rogue mode shop has lots of echo xp. Etc

[hollow gorge]

the point of this convo was spending resin on mats beyond what the game gives you by default

[neat robin]

Plus you only level an echo to +10, if you dont get a sub you need, its food for the next echo

[rotund drum]

yeah and you said thats maybe enough for 10

even 15 or 20 isnt enough for 2 full teams though

and now you're talking abotu rerolling your echoes for better subs?

[kind turtle]

each gold xp is enough for +5, +10 is 2 gold, 3 purple and 1 green

i'm giving up on echoes if they dont have a useful stat at +5, and a useful+crit at +10

[hollow gorge]

probably more, I just checked and I haven't tapped into the wooden thingies store yet, and my Illusory event store is like half full, as well as my ToA store and hologram store.

and I haven't opened Tiger's Maw store yet, which might also have echo exp tubes

[rotund drum]

it doesnt

its just trace mats

and weapon xp

[hollow gorge]

well, it doesn't matter, I think I will be full equipped with 3sub roll echoes before I deplete every store

[rotund drum]

lol ok gl

[blissful tulip]

That's going to take more attempts than you think it will, but best of luck

I've gotten very unlucky with my Calcharo and Danjin echoes

[hollow gorge]

well, 4star echoes mostly, since I think I will hit the roll wall before I hit exp wall anyway

[blissful tulip]

And stupendously lucky with Chixia's

[hollow gorge]

that's why I am going only for Lingering x5 and Moonlit x5 only and then I will see if I can mix them with 2x Ele DMG echoes

[hollow gorge]

I am not going for all 5 star echoes, I think that is unreasonable at this stage. Pretty sure only my DD would need that, my supports will have 4 star echoes with best subs possible with current resources

[rotund drum]

you're just wasting xp mats if you spend them on 4-stars

since 5-stars are infinitely farmable anyway

[hollow gorge]

not really. 4 stars have the same subs as 5 stars, and lvling a 5 star echo beyond 20th lvl might be a waste on a non DPS char

[kind turtle]

yeah i'm doing +0 5*s, i dont want to waste on 4* echoes when 5* are so easily accessible

[hollow gorge]

you waste only echo exp, 25% of it though. But you have way more roll chances

[rotund drum]

5*s have better mainstat scaling and obv more long-term value

the only reason to use 4*s is to burn your tuners

and they may add some kind of synthesis or upgrade for them in the future so i would just save them tbh

if you dont want to farm 5* echoes then just say so, that's a legit reason

[hollow gorge]

5* echo mainstat vs 4* echo is around a single sub worth difference. Then you get 1 sub more on a 5*. So, basically, you need 2 more effective subs on your 4 star than 5 star to be around the same. Which I think is something that should be workable, if we assume that 5 star echo has 2 effective subs on average

[rotund drum]

but otherwise i'd take a team that's full +25 echoes with all hp and def subs than one with all +0s and an mdps who's still only halfway through a 4* set

[hollow gorge]

that's part of it, but I do think that there might be a gold tuner bottleneck atm

so I would run out of tuners before I run out of exp

therefore I might as well use purple tuners for overall better subs

[dapper oar]

i kept missing 2% on these supply chests in maps

i get that there was missable chests in norfall barrens but i marked everything in desorock and still 98% supply chest

[sterile swallow]

I followed a video to get the 100%. There's 2 areas that we can't get 100% yet for whatever reason

The lootmapper gadget also doesn't show hidden chests in boxes/rocks/tree stumps

And challenges. I wish it would track challenges too even if they somewhat stand out

[kind turtle]

oh damn 4 gold echoes

[kind turtle]

ok yeah there's the max echo XP roll for UL30, 26k or higher than both the XP rolls in this image

and the obligatory WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE DROP RATES (these are the two golem echoes in that run)

[sterile swallow]

Echo RNG so bad

1. First the echo has to fall in the right set/element
2. Next you need the right main stat
3. Next substat RNG which has a fair chance of rolling a useless stat

4-cost echoes are ok. I wish all of them had their own domain like Dreamless so we don't have to wait for respawn.

[kind turtle]

crownless already has a summon button, why is it on a 2 minute timer

[sterile swallow]

But 3-cost echoes when hunting a specific ele dmg %

[stuck wharf]

just strongbox and get lucky

I spent like 2 hours fishing for aero piece y'day and nothing, strongboxed and got 2

[oak copper]

and then you finally get one and it rolls into HP and DEF

[burnt shoal]

you can't get data bank 19 bonuses unless your ar 40 right?

sooo are lots of content creators just pushing to data bank 19 for fun

asap

even though they aren't ar 40 yet?

[floral bone]

yeah

no data bank 19 till union lv40

[kind turtle]

Yeah

Getting to 19 isn't hard

20 is a bit of a grind when you need 205/208

[rigid shore]

Wat dat

[kind turtle]

Tacet field

It seems the drop range is 0>4

[rigid shore]

oh

[edgy cobalt]

data bank lvl 20 will come naturally

[night mantle]

save time by alternating 4 cost echos. First fight the one you don't need and then the one you need.

[sterile swallow]

Yeah I know that trick. 100% drop for Bellturtle is lovely

Bless Lv40 dreamless when it doesn't drop its echo

I go right over to the turtle afterward

[night mantle]

or you can lower your ul for 12hrs and farm all the bosses you need

[tropic sparrow]

I personally just kill most elite every day or so to drop echo to gear my character, so I ended up having all of them 5* (with databank exp around 630/208)

[sterile swallow]

I got my on-set electro/aero dmg bonus from fusing all the useless 4* echoes

Or fusing useless things like glacio dmg % on an electro echo. The mismatching is real

[burnt shoal]

you can lower world level for easier boss farming right?

what's the point of higher world level anyway

if lower world level can drop 5 star echoes

[sterile swallow]

I think better drops from forgery + overworld mobs. But that's it

[burnt shoal]

can't you choose forgery level anyway

since it's a domain

[sterile swallow]

Echo quality is tied to your data bank (and you need union Lv30 to ascend for 5* echoes)

[hollow gorge]

you can't choose level higher than your world level. So if you reduce world level, the number of available difficulties will also reduce

[ocean talon]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-sugar-gif-20796417

best i can do with rover rn

[burnt shoal]

ohhh

[rigid shore]

does being in dark surge increase ulti and echo damage?

[fickle kernel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1d5l6bl/holy_shit_the_gunplay_in_this_game/

ok this vid made me reinstall wuwa

so satisfying to watch

didnt realize aalto buffed all gun users

[hollow gorge]

Damn, that is cool.

[rigid shore]

how do you defeat diff 5

[fickle kernel]

wait did they nerf havoc mc?

[ruby rune]

Bro.. I dont even know how to use the unit

[burnt shoal]

omg is this real (wuwa beta spoilers) || https://fxtwitter.com/HoyoVillains/status/1796590410892181525 ||

[stuck wharf]

that's funny cuz I was wondering if she was the girl in the story

[barren drift]

hes just xingqiu

[ruby rune]

i sht you not I can do this with bellborne lvl60 spectro rover

if only i had 5star echoes

[sterile swallow]

Did you max all the passives yet? They help immensely

Also always do memory of fierce struggles and break all the rocks

You'll get extra fragments and the cat spawns on the rocks

[ruby rune]

not all but I have all atk buffs already

[ruby rune]

yeah I know

like dmg wise Im held back by echoes now

cus my spectro mc has max talents for its cap

[rigid shore]

Im p sure echoes doesn't affect you there

I cant beat it either idk how the fuck the last boss always 2 shots me

i have max skill tree too

[lament shuttle]

Echos don’t work in this

They literally do nothing

[lament shuttle]

Use turtle on spectral rover and then once you max it just go for fusion augments for more basic atk dmg

[rigid shore]

im p sure thas what ive been doing

dont say it

its not a skill issue

my fps drops coz of the dmg numbers

[lament shuttle]

The boss is frozen for like

Half the fight

[timid sierra]

i just got jeeyan after exploring all day long 😭

[lament shuttle]

If you get the freeze on full hp/shielded plus Spector rover ult

[timid sierra]

finally

[lament shuttle]

Gz

[timid sierra]

now i have no resources to build him with.. poop

[lament shuttle]

Well there’s 6-10 days till UL40 so that’s plenty of time

[timid sierra]

yeah fair

im already at 13/30 stars with my calcharo and hrover/dan jin shenanigans

but i severely lack supports so i have no more energy on jianxin and like one more chamber with verina or something like that

[stuck wharf]

do set buffs stack

double healer set

[rigid shore]

i didnt know

is that the

i thought the freeze only works on normal enemies

[rigid shore]

hopefully i reach 40 before abyss reset

hmmge

[lament shuttle]

Hmm idts cuz I finished the last room with full hp and 2 min without the boss moving much

[rigid shore]

HuTaoThink

[edgy cobalt]

what Ul are you at rn

[rigid shore]

almost 36

[lament shuttle]

Imma be 37 tomorrow

[rigid shore]

im saving those fragile resins

[edgy cobalt]

yeah nah you gotta use your solvents if you wanna hit 40 before end of next week

[rigid shore]

my world is almost all 100%

[rigid shore]

i have 21

KoriStress

my brain thinks its a waste

[edgy cobalt]

I can already hit it before next week ends

[rigid shore]

is this mine

[edgy cobalt]

its mine

[rigid shore]

wait yuou

i cant read

[edgy cobalt]

lol

[rigid shore]

can u calc mine

lemme jsut login

[edgy cobalt]

okay just ping me when you have your exp

[stuck wharf]

is that XP needed cumulative

[edgy cobalt]

yeah

its not for each level if that's what if you're asking

its the total I need

[lament shuttle]

Well hit at same time ish

[rigid shore]

i can explore a bit more

[lament shuttle]

Gotta start farming mats for lvl 70 weapon and chars

[rigid shore]

i have 3 areas that arent 98%-100%

[rigid shore]

add in 450 i have 60 resin rn

ty bro

:3

[edgy cobalt]

I'll include your 21 solvents

[rigid shore]

alright

[ruby rune]

does echo stats not apply?

[rigid shore]

it doesnt

[lament shuttle]

They don’t

[ruby rune]

so its literally just raw talent level + character level and weap

[lament shuttle]

Yeah

[rigid shore]

if they did id be dealing 1k basics

[edgy cobalt]

@rigid shore

[ruby rune]

aight time to whale for jiyan

[rigid shore]

such a shame havoc rover cant be played tho

[lament shuttle]

But it’s piss easy with turtle

[rigid shore]

HuTaoThink

just barely

[lament shuttle]

Like you legit take 0 and have perm shield

[ruby rune]

it is I just dont have enough dmg rn for it Im missing like 15% of the boss hp

[lament shuttle]

The boss barely moves and you just left click it

[ruby rune]

man do I wany jiyan

[edgy cobalt]

I should try turtle, I've been maining inferno rider and I got my V clear yesterday

[ruby rune]

but like I wanna save

[rigid shore]

save for camellya

[lament shuttle]

I’m 10 pulls off yinlin so no jiyan

[edgy cobalt]

10/80 s1 verina -> soft pity jiyan -> 55/80 encore -> currently 30/80 rn

have 20 pulls in reserve so I can get yinlin easily

but no pulls after

[lament shuttle]

10/80 jianxin - 55/80 rn

[edgy cobalt]

I got unlucky and pulled s7 chixia 💀

[ruby rune]

i already have jianxin so

[edgy cobalt]

so I had to keep rolling cuz I wanted mort and danjin dupes

[lament shuttle]

I have her too

[ruby rune]

so like Im not looking forward to any waifus

[lament shuttle]

C0 mort and Danjin but c6 gun girl

Apparently she’s good

[rigid shore]

DANJIN

i want danjin so bad

[edgy cobalt]

she's good but I don't really wanna dump resources on her

[rigid shore]

but i dont wanna pull

[ruby rune]

im 18pity rn guarantee so idk if I'll even make it for jiyan

[lament shuttle]

Cuz near 100 uptime

[edgy cobalt]

I like danjin playstyle

a bit more

[ruby rune]

Im 1 con away from max mortefi tho so it is tempting to pull

i wont whale on this game tho

[edgy cobalt]

meanwhile I still have my two selectors

[ruby rune]

I save cash for irl hobbies and hyv

[stuck wharf]

mortefi's ult dmg ramp procs per hit right? so heavy attacks stack 2x buffs?

[lament shuttle]

Standard cons such

Suck

[edgy cobalt]

hoarding my selectors because I'm actually considering s2 verina

the only good sequence/con/eidolon

otherwise its calcharo and jianxin so I have every standard except lingyang

[timid sierra]

how good is verina's s2?

[edgy cobalt]

which is what I'm leaning towards more for horizontal variety

[edgy cobalt]

skill gives 10 extra concerto energy

and extra forte stack

which is also more concerto

[timid sierra]

is that super significant? 10 concerto energy

[edgy cobalt]

luxury rotations tbh but I dig it

had to manually check that she has 80 concerto cap so her skill can give 40 concerto instead of 30

and then two instead of one photosynthesis stacks

which is 12 + 12
I can proc s5 variation and that's exactly 80

again its a luxury pull because s2 just opens up slightly faster rotations and you don't really really need it

[timid sierra]

ic

its just that i got lucky with s1 verina on the choice banner so i was wondering since im only one verina away from s2

[rigid shore]

compooter

rutux 5090

[edgy cobalt]

seems like we're on the same boat ish, do you have any other standards

[ruby rune]

fuck that Im happy with my 3060ti

[rigid shore]

i just got flexed on

[timid sierra]

i have every standard except encore at s0 except for c1 verina

[rigid shore]

send me some old gpu

[ruby rune]

you know whats funny

[timid sierra]

and i just pulled jiyan

and thats all my 5*s

[ruby rune]

till like 5 months ago

[rigid shore]

wat did u buy it on scalper prices

[ruby rune]

I thought it was just a 3060

[rigid shore]

[ruby rune]

[rigid shore]

wait did u buy a 3060 and got the ti?

[ruby rune]

till i went home and was cleaning my room there and noticed the box said 3060ti

so I was like

[timid sierra]

except youre prolly on a yacht while im on a rowboat, my waveplate mangaement has been dogshit

lmao

[rigid shore]

lmfao

[ruby rune]

THERE WAS A TI???

[rigid shore]

that was 5 months ago?

when did u buy it?

[ruby rune]

like 2 years ago

[rigid shore]

💀

NAH SHIT

[ruby rune]

[timid sierra]

also im completely skill issue and cant consistently parry

i can only semi consistently dodge

[rigid shore]

bro what

[ruby rune]

it took me that long to notice the ti

[edgy cobalt]

parrying aix is a pain for me

[rigid shore]

u didnt even check task manager?

[edgy cobalt]

but anyone else is ok

[rigid shore]

heron and aix for me

mephis duo are my favorite bosses

[timid sierra]

i tried to do lvl 4 holograms for heron, tempest, feilian, and i failed

so miserably

holy shit

[edgy cobalt]

aix5 is possible but I keep dying

[timid sierra]

i cant parry tempest for shit but i can kind of parry thundering

[edgy cobalt]

like I get half health in 90 seconds

[ruby rune]

no when I check task manager I checked ram and cpu usage

[edgy cobalt]

lemme find my hologram4s record

[timid sierra]

if im doing the dream domain with srover, do i want crownless echo or inferno rider echo

shit wont give me the turtle

[edgy cobalt]

aix4 compared to the rest lmao

[rigid shore]

AINTNOWAY

[blissful tulip]

Sometimes you don't even need to parry, its bugged anyways

[timid sierra]

i could only wish

[blissful tulip]

Parrying close to Aix damages you

[edgy cobalt]

the parry works after the aix attacks sometimes 💀

[burnt shoal]

is jiyan story quesr limited time only?

it says in event page i have to do it in a few days

[edgy cobalt]

if it is then..

[blissful tulip]

It shouldn't be, it's just featured

[edgy cobalt]

would be dumb if it is

[blissful tulip]

Would be incredibly stupid if that were the case

[timid sierra]

its probably only being advertised for those few days left

then its yinlin's time on the board 💀

[blissful tulip]

Curious to hear what this chat considers to be the hardest Hologram boss

[timid sierra]

all of them

they all kill me bc im skill issue

[blissful tulip]

Mephis in my case

Half the reason being inconsistent parry registers and SFX blinding you as well as its phantom doing what it wants

[timid sierra]

theyre all kind of difficult for me for their own reasons

tempest i cant see what it wants to do when it tps everywhere and i literally dont know what im doing wrong but i cant parry it at all

ape i cant read its attacks

heron jumps up and i cant parry it

mourning aix i cant dodge it when it wants to pick me up or peck at me

... i think i just cant read their attacks

[blissful tulip]

Don't worry about Heron's parries, they are some of the most inconsistent in the game from what I've played

[timid sierra]

im also too used to genshin neuvi c1 or zhongli gaming

[stuck wharf]

anyone know?

[blissful tulip]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1243589198007763035/1246524718740144148/Screenshot_2024-06-01-21-02-58-274_com.kurogame.wutheringwaves.global.jpg?ex=665d5cdc&is=665c0b5c&hm=4cea10c50a00c899fdd8bb11d57ae99db5026620956662001fac31259291eb1e&

[timid sierra]

where i just unload all my damage regardless of what the enemies do

[blissful tulip]

You are given 5 minutes after all

Use them

[timid sierra]

im not used to focusing and destroying their vibrations or whatever at first

honestly not too sure how to go about killing the holograms

just been brute forcing it

[blissful tulip]

Study their boss patterns and understand their quirks regarding jank

You'll learn over time

Ape and Heron you can treat more like Soulslike bosses

[timid sierra]

never played soulslike rip

[timid sierra]

i mean yeah thats how i picked up how to almost always parry the thundering mephis's first few attacks

but im still blindsided everytime by the tempest mephis attacks

[blissful tulip]

He is the hardest hologram boss, don't worry about not beating it immediately