・wuwa-lounge

[blissful tulip]

I honestly want more copies of her but I am 10 pulls away from a Jiyan

As good as Jiyan is, I have 4 damage dealers

[rotund drum]

hopefully kusogames isnt afraid to do char buffs/alts like mhy is

[blissful tulip]

They have done so before, but I'm afraid that Waves will likely be an exception

[lament shuttle]

Same I’m 10 off guaranteed so I’m locked behind waiting for yinlin

[rotund drum]

once mhy adds a char thats it for that char

if you dont like the kit its over

cant expect buffs or a summer/xmas/ny alt etc

[lament shuttle]

I heard pgr buffs units

But idk how true that is

[rotund drum]

dont like alhaitham kit, too bad

[blissful tulip]

It's true, but only 4 of the buffs have essentially been used to extend meta relevance of certain characters

[kind turtle]

WTF IS THAT PRICE LMAOOOO

[rotund drum]

enjoy pulling his roommate instead

[kind turtle]

£10 FOR 4 TUBES????

[stuck wharf]

idk if they do direct buffs, but they give old units new mechanics thru leaps

[blissful tulip]

The rest are "for fun" buffs

[rotund drum]

leaps are fine too

6* ascension would be nice

[stuck wharf]

unfortunately all of this is cope lmao

[rotund drum]

honestly i dont think anyone is reading wuwa story anyway so they can just do whatever they want

[stuck wharf]

im the 1 person left who's reading everything

[rotund drum]

the story is still a million times better than genshit's just because you can skip it lol

[kind turtle]

i'm reading the bits i'm not allowed to skip

[rotund drum]

although the jiyan stuff took forever

[barren drift]

Im still going to skim read

[rotund drum]

hi im jiyan let's pokemon battle but only after i whine about my emo life story or something

[barren drift]

I wont like fully pay attention but id like to at least know whats going on whos who and so on

[rotund drum]

this pokemon race reminds of that time my best friend died here's a flashback

[stuck wharf]

wake me up in act 8 when the story pops off

[rotund drum]

from what i can tell from the unskippable story segments that require a dialogue choice and cant be afk'd through

[stuck wharf]

pgr first like 10 chapters were bottom of the barrel ao3 dogshit

[rotund drum]

tacet discords are fucking shit up and it's scar's fault so you stop him

then his teammates show up and jiyan fights them

the end

[blissful tulip]

Tbf, there have only been a few chapters that have been genuinely incredibly well written

Noan's, Lamia's, Liv Empyrea's and a few others

A lot of the others are just alright

[stuck wharf]

alright is a lot better than where it started and where wuwa is rn

[rotund drum]

honestly genshit's story has been pretty dumb since inazuma too

[blissful tulip]

True

[barren drift]

sumeru is fine imo

fontaine is shit cus im biased and i hate furina

i was hoping she got egeriaed

[rotund drum]

scaramouche wants to become a god so you spend hours doing irrelevant shit and it ends with you just fighting him anyway

[stuck wharf]

sumeru the best but its unnecessarily wordy, fontaine better cuz it's more concise

[blissful tulip]

Inazuma's beginning was alright

The ending portions were unfortunately rushed through

Causing a poor story

[rotund drum]

then there's a whale and arlecchino and no one knows why because everyone got stuck on the stupid prison arc then they just let you skip story so there's no reason to suffer through it anymore

[stuck wharf]

sad cuz the inazuma world quests were actually peak

[barren drift]

yeah

sakura cleansing is so good

[rotund drum]

arlecchino is obv evil but idk why there's a whale

[blissful tulip]

A lot of Waves' WQ's remind me of how they handled Inazuma

Especially the exploration quests

[rotund drum]

its drinking up the entire ocean or something so you have to stop it i guess

[blissful tulip]

And I like a lot of the WQ's in Waves, some are pretty creative

[stuck wharf]

wuwa wq are like super hit or miss weirdly

the tigers maw one was fucking atrocious

[rotund drum]

the WQs are funny cause they're obv all machine translated

[blissful tulip]

Bit of a shame there's no such thing as a "domain" WQ like a lot of Sumeru's WQ's

[stuck wharf]

it was like chat gpt localization meets dating sim

[blissful tulip]

I'd like to explore a temple or something similar

We only have two one-time domains

[barren drift]

can someone sum up wuwa's banyan wq

the monke

i rmb abt stygian

but i skippe dthru the banyan area wq

[blissful tulip]

You remove the poison debuff from the tree and it glows a nice pink

[rotund drum]

there's a tree and its spitting out poison so you have to cure it

[kind turtle]

withering zones

[barren drift]

😭

[rotund drum]

probably

[stuck wharf]

pinkpilled

[kind turtle]

wuthering zones

[barren drift]

is that really it no backstory of why ts happened

[rotund drum]

i dont think anyone played it

or read it rather

imagine reading thousands of MTL'd lines about a tree or some shit

[blissful tulip]

I believe they did mention something to do with tacets , but I wanted to rush through everything to experience the game itself

[rotund drum]

when you could be grinding to clear abyss

[barren drift]

[blissful tulip]

I've already reached the barrier for grind unfortunately

[rotund drum]

grind 5* echoes

and get chests or w/e

[kind turtle]

i need to get back to grinding havoc% echoes 😔

[rotund drum]

gonna need them to make up for jiyangate

[blissful tulip]

Done all that ToA and Hologram I'm stuck on due to dps check

[kind turtle]

i need to finish cooking though

[blissful tulip]

As well as low-end stuttering device

[rotund drum]

get a 30 series and enable dlss

it helps a lot

[blissful tulip]

I'm on mobile

[kind turtle]

plug one in

[rotund drum]

i think there's an FSR option too but lol

[oak copper]

And now back to grinding gear so I actually have functional Teams I guess

[blissful tulip]

Unfortunately doesn't help as much as you think

I've gotten used to the stuttering at this rate but it doesn't feel fun to mess around with

[barren drift]

true..

[rotund drum]

does the game have controller support on mobile

i havent actually tried the game on my phone

[blissful tulip]

Only in some instances oddly

Many experienced not connecting at all

While some managed

[rotund drum]

i only installed genshit on it to do logins and expeditions but i dont even bother with that anymore

i may as well just uninstall it

i remember my super old phone couldnt even start genshit but it runs mostly fine on my s20

[blissful tulip]

I run Genshin and HSR perfectly fine on my phone, even at very low settings my phone runs the game generally decently but with many microstutters

Causing issues

[stuck wharf]

how get img perms

[haughty raven]

get higher prankster level

so just keep chatting

i believe its p3 or p5 that gives you img perms

[lucid pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/hutao-poke-gif-1772070640472403370

[stuck wharf]

yapping arc

[lucid pebble]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/958403996652032020/1178088643055853618/furina.gif?ex=6574df8c&is=65626a8c&hm=e96c973dd4cf42f53585c0cf5b97ab333a328be80612780848d16a45955c4ad8&

[dense elbow]

all their bundles are a joke lol

did u see the twitch rewards?

2 subs for like

1 pull or smth

💀

[kind turtle]

😭

thats horrific

[dense elbow]

yeah i was on stream with a few ppl on launch and once we found out what the rewards were ppl removed the notice from their stream

coz its just a fucking scam to say "oi sub and you get wuwa rewards"

[barren drift]

tbh just add condensed resins in every bundle and everyone will like it

[dense elbow]

coz theyre absolutely dogshit

[barren drift]

[dense elbow]

well yes making them good value would be a good thing

[oak copper]

These janky af enemies really strain my motivation to play this game rn

[barren drift]

enemies that dont move?

[oak copper]

enemies that can oneshot with quick attacks that are barely visible under any attack animation. Enemies that make every effort to spread out across a maximum distance to snipe you from outside your camera view etc.

• janky hitboxes on a good number of AoE attacks

[dense elbow]

add onto that "enemies resetting combat if hit too far away from their spawn point in tower"

so they fucking heal to full

💀

[kind turtle]

idk those birds never reset for me

[dense elbow]

ive had it with the birds in that chamber as well as the dogs in one of the 3rd tower chambers

😭

[oak copper]

also love to get destroyed right when I come out of casting an ult before I can dodge

or timings getting all fucked by time slows from dodges and parries

amazing to get punished for doing the "right" things

[kind turtle]

yeah that sucks on aix dif4, dodges desync the timing on the homing shots most of the time

IM FREEE

I NEVER HAVE TO COOK AGAIN

[dense elbow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1d3zaq7/kuro_became_被执行人the_judgment_debtor_for_failing/?share_id=ow6SQ0e2v1F1VLBqbw5oj&utm_content=2&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

💀

how they failing to pay like $15k

@tawdry sapphire u seen this?

[kind turtle]

my guess is they forgot 😭

it's not even that high

[dense elbow]

literally

😭

[tawdry sapphire]

people tend to make it seems worse than what it is
in any situation, the moment to lose a court case and is alleged to pay a fine, you will be label with that until you pay the fine

it's to prevent the person from escaping the fine during the period

[dense elbow]

yeah

i just find it weird they didnt pay as soon as they got it

[tawdry sapphire]

well I don't know what's the entire legal procedure they need to go through to pay the fine so

[dense elbow]

mhm

[dense elbow]

@marsh wharf u know anything about chinese law?

[barren drift]

yeah i watched zy0x's stream today he was doing diff 5 aix

he still get hit when he dodged

and parried

crazy

[tawdry sapphire]

so it's not like r/gachagaming make it seem, like "oh they're label this now cuz they fail to pay the fine on time"
more so like "alright, you guys need to pay this fine, and until you pay them, you'll have this label on"

[dense elbow]

yeah thats how i took it

it was moreso just weird to me they didnt pay it off quickly or the fact they got fined in the first place

when their new hit game made over 10 mill in 5 days

welp bye bot

rip bozo

[tawdry sapphire]

r/gachagaming love doing shit like that
remember the post about them firing the UE engineer
turns out the original post was just the UE engineer sharing their journey of game dev and talking about the state of gaming industry

[barren drift]

overblown shit

[tawdry sapphire]

dude didn't resign or fired

[dense elbow]

yeah i saw that

r/gachagaming is just a shit hole 99% of the time

[tawdry sapphire]

better at drama baiting than Tectone fr

[dense elbow]

so true

only useful things on there are like

new gacha game post

and sensor tower reports

[blissful tulip]

Just like the Spiral Abyss

Ah the good days

(Specifically referring to the spreading out of enemies)

[marsh wharf]

The court likely will issue an injunction against them for enforcement of the fine

[kind turtle]

lmaooo so they were never actually fired?

[marsh wharf]

How that works in practice depends on the company and how cooperative they want to be

[dense elbow]

fairs

idt theyd wanna stir more shit for themselves after they just released a game thats already getting enough of that in places

[marsh wharf]

You'd think so but companies love doing stupid shit

[dense elbow]

[dense elbow]

tbf ALOT of ppl did get fired

ik pretty much the entire department for handling CC programs n stuff was

and they didnt let anyone know who to contact next

so ppl were just left in the dark

[kind turtle]

[dense elbow]

and they also got a new combat director

who was put in place after cbt2 iirc?

but they were the one who chose to change outro skill deepen effects

aka fuck calcharo without reworking him at all

[barren drift]

skullsob

eos at 1.5 frfr

[blissful tulip]

I just hope they fix some of the jank regarding enemies

[dense elbow]

same

[blissful tulip]

Main concerns are mourning aix and the current endgame ToA floors

I suppose also the Heron for wasting so much fucking time

[marsh wharf]

After doing more research I disagree with what fox said, the post's description is more accurate

[dense elbow]

[marsh wharf]

The specific label used is for defendants who are being compelled by the court to pay

[ocean talon]

no cuz how did this hit 22k

[barren drift]

hmm for biggest problems for me are
-camera whatchamallit
-enemy projectile hitboxes
-fps drops

[marsh wharf]

I.e., they haven't paid on time, they're still resisting the conclusion, etc

[dense elbow]

interestinge

wonder if they just

forgot

[barren drift]

danjin buffs damage verina's buffs, rover's forte also buffs havoc dmg

[dense elbow]

or are for some reason not wanting to pay 15k chump change

[blissful tulip]

Camera hasn't been too much of an issue thankfully

But it is by no means perfect

Autotargeting on certain units is fucked as well

Mainly the gun users + encore

[barren drift]

das meee

[kind turtle]

encore finds the furthest away enemy that she cant hit

[marsh wharf]

They definitely did not forget

[barren drift]

this

[marsh wharf]

Penny wise, pound foolish

[barren drift]

omg i hate this

[blissful tulip]

I've been playing around with Chixia and had this issue myself

[barren drift]

encore's E just for some reason decides to aim the furthest enemy

buggering waves

[dense elbow]

[blissful tulip]

Stuttering Waves

[dense elbow]

Suffering Frames

Withering Gains

Widening Pains

[tawdry sapphire]

the game still stuttering ?

[gilded lance]

kinda

[tawdry sapphire]

ngl
I can't tell if the game is stuttering or my controller is just extremely busted

[tawdry sapphire]

after yesterday patch I think my game is only stuttering when I first boot up the game
but after that bascially no more stutttering or lag

still suffering from minor fps drop when there are too many effects going on tho

[oak copper]

its really dumb sometimes, especially when enemies do a lot of follow up attacks. You just have to sit there in slow mo waiting for it to end to dodge immediately again because attacking just gets you hit/killed more often than not.
Meanwhile the timer just keeps ticking down and you just lost a bunch of time for playing the fight "correctly"

[gilded lance]

try runnign the genshin main menu screen on the backround

[oak copper]

They chose a combat format where enemy quality and hitboxes matter a lot and botched the execution

I'm not even ironic anymore when I say that the story is the best thing about the game

[ocean talon]

not much investment

[dense elbow]

Been tested its a guaranteed 2 star drop every time it respawns lol

[kind turtle]

😭 thanks kuro

[dense elbow]

Hillarious lmao

[ocean talon]

FUCKING FLASHBANG

[small bronze]

i cleared the whole 2 towers and then i saw it goes up to lvl 100

has anyone beaten the lvl 100 monkey?

im wondering if whaling could even do it

[keen jackal]

probably could

even with aero res i feel like s6r5 jiyan with s6 mortefi and verina could prob do it

or if some lucky ass whale has s6 encore/calcharro

[kind turtle]

Here's someone that has cleared monkey at least

[fickle kernel]

got excited thinking there was finally a new post on wuwaleaks but it was just my adblock needing an update

no 1.1 beta bc 1.0 patch is end of service

[edgy cobalt]

just use havoc rover against monke

[kind turtle]

We can't have EoS yet, no persona collab

[rotund drum]

if wuwa eos's then genshit will never get qol

enjoy slowly climbing up walls and having to stop every 3 seconds to regen stamina

hundreds of hours listening to paimon make lol so quirky quips about every stupid sidequest

[ocean talon]

never let calcharo users in co-op bruh tf is this😭 T pose

[hollow gorge]

guys, what would you consider a maximum possible number of stars in Hazard Zone for an f2p/low spender at this moment?

[ocean talon]

1 1/2

[blissful tulip]

6-15

[hollow gorge]

thanks

[blissful tulip]

Depending on standard character, echo luck and investment

[timid sierra]

I got a shiny pokemon ehe

[keen jackal]

43k

[floral bone]

yeah 12~15 is doable, depends on how efficient you are with echoes and characters

im at 12~13 with rover/danjin but i dont think imma optimize more for 15, not until i get union 40

[hollow gorge]

I won't be getting UL40 this iteration unfortunately, slacked first two days of game release, so I am missing like 2-3 days worth of Union Exp

[floral bone]

yeah 30~40 takes a while

[timid sierra]

i dont think anyone in their right mind and whos not whaling is going to be u40 this round of tower

[hollow gorge]

it's 10 more days, so might be possible, if you complete the current available stuff by that time. But I doubt it would be much fun

[timid sierra]

maybe

[kind turtle]

there's 38k more XP from dalies+resin by the time tower resets

[timid sierra]

though getting to u40 wont solve my issue of having literally zero mats to level these echos with

and then having them roll to shit

[kind turtle]

i'm at 35 and there's 8k xp per level, so i dont think there's a way for f2p to hit 40 by then

[edgy cobalt]

I got 15/30 with havoc rover and jiyan and his 3* broadblade

18/30 is possible if you have a built calcharo and jiyan w/ his signature but I didn't go for his sig so I'm gonna be stuck with 15 stars till reset

and regarding hitting UL40 it's only gonna be possible to hit it before reset if you're where I am and refill once a day till then

I've been hoarding refills in previous games so I think I'll try a different route and just use all of them at one point

[vapid river]

so for w/e reason my game is stuttering like crazy just by picking things up

switched game to ssd

and it's gone

did this new update fuck over hdd user or something?

[kind turtle]

mine was fucked on launch with hdd

[graceful jetty]

I switched to ssd like 3 days ago

loading times were disguting on hdd

[kind turtle]

i blame my hdd on getting a 38k UID

[graceful jetty]

I'm running out of ssd space

i have like 80gb left

[kind turtle]

yeah i want to get a new one soonge

[graceful jetty]

I should've listened when I was told to get 2tb

i thought it was way overkill

it's not.

[vapid river]

my hdd got me a 1318

skill issue

[kind turtle]

wtf

[vapid river]

it wasn't bad until today tbh

but like

[kind turtle]

a person that i told the server was up got 18k

[vapid river]

literal seconds

[kind turtle]

on same server

[vapid river]

mine was on uk

err eu*

[kind turtle]

same 😭

[vapid river]

oh >.>

i also had another in the 30k and 70k range

.>

[kind turtle]

bruh...

[vapid river]

i had 8 instances of ldplayer open

but only 4 of them worked

well 3

the fourth crashed and didn't register

but yeah, hdd isn't it anymore

i shouldn't lose a whole second

picking up a flower

[kind turtle]

yeah that's not good

i switched to ssd on day 2

[ornate basalt]

Encore skill prio?

[kind turtle]

imo basic > skill > ult, but ult > skill > basic for proper ult rotations

then forte and intro exist

[vapid river]

i wouldn't know

[ornate basalt]

Basic > Skill > Ult is what I would've guessed too

But I wanted to be sure

[kind turtle]

that's her ult doing Basic damage

[vapid river]

you have the dmg pie chart

shouldn't that tell you

[ornate basalt]

Not that straightforward since like Stocked said, there are other forms of damage that can derived elsewhere

[kind turtle]

i think the prydwen chart is just skill and only in-ult damage

but i use her out of ult so much more 😭

like for holograms out of ult is just nicer

you dont get yeeted everywhere and anim locked, and can keep ranged for dodging especially on aix

[ornate basalt]

Welp I'm out of resin

Time to go back to beating up Dreamless

• Inferno Rider now

[kind turtle]

yatta

[ocean talon]

inferno rider is busted]

[lament shuttle]

so the last illusive realm uhh what did yall use

am I about to build Chixia ?

[ocean talon]

this was my lvl 70 run

use inferno rider and max it out

trust

he carries

[keen jackal]

ul 35 soon

[lament shuttle]

how can u pick him

hes not even in my list

[blissful tulip]

You switch Rover's element

Yours is Havoc, which is not available

Spectro is

[lament shuttle]

ahh

[keen jackal]

its so dumb they released the mode without every char being available

not even both rover elements playable

[blissful tulip]

Didn't have the time unfortunately

And as a result the mode turned out unfinished and repetitive

[keen jackal]

yea as much as ive been enjoying the game it needed more time and shouldve been released later

game still runs horrible on my phone after multiple updates but im managing ig

[blissful tulip]

May was the best chance they could have had, tbf, Natlan and ZZZ would have greatly diminished the hype

[keen jackal]

yea thats the thing unfortunately

happened with tof

released like a week before sumeru iirc?? LMAO

on a dry patch so genshin players played it for a week and then back to genshin for sumeru

[blissful tulip]

4.7 is somewhat similar ironically

Not a new area but a packed patch in general

[keen jackal]

unlike tof even if wuwa dies out a bit ill still stick w it probably

i think wuwa will stay relevant for a while

[ocean talon]

if wuwa stays not feeling like another chore i'll keep playing

[keen jackal]

thats how all gacha games feel at the start

[ocean talon]

ik, genshin was magical

[keen jackal]

then you reach high/final level and all you can do is do daily shit till new content is out

[ocean talon]

[kind turtle]

mmmmm farming echoes for several hours a day

[blissful tulip]

Tbf, we're already in that state

[keen jackal]

felt it with hi3, genshin, hsr, crk, nikke, will prob get to that level on wuwa too

[blissful tulip]

At least for those who've rushed

[keen jackal]

i still have quests to do

and i wanna explore

so im not there yet

[graceful jetty]

dont lose your wuwa account

[keen jackal]

but im close to that

[graceful jetty]

:clueless;

[keen jackal]

I USED MY 2ND MAIN EMAIL

DNIIII I WONT LOSE IT

😭

i think i can reach ul 35 tomorrow

i can finish jiyan quest, do all my side quests explore a bit and refresh i should be good

dailies and jiyan quest is 4k exp by itself

so yipee i get another 5 star tmrw

[kind turtle]

another 5*

in my 15 pulls i just got a yuanwu and a gauntlet

[keen jackal]

i still dont know if im gonna get calcharro or encore

[ocean talon]

i want weapons rn

so bad

i want that crit rate sword

[keen jackal]

yea ive been using some standard pulls on the weapon banner

i want the 5 star sword for rover

lol

[ocean talon]

i am on 50+ pity

on it

[keen jackal]

unironically hrover is more fun that jiyan

jiyan is comfy but i like how easy and big dmg hrover is

[ocean talon]

i prefer aoe

so jiyan for me but i use both

idk how rover is outdoing my calcharo but wtv

😭

at w6 he'll be broken too

[keen jackal]

idek if i want calcharro

but i want yinlin

[ocean talon]

yinlin is amazing a dps \

idk how amazing tho

[keen jackal]

idk how she does as a main dps

mm if i get encore tho i can use sanhua

[ocean talon]

doesnt sanhua buff glacio dmg

[kind turtle]

her outro is 38% basic dmg deepen

[ocean talon]

oop

the website i looked at was wrong

smh\

shtupid innit

i just checked ingame

[kind turtle]

genshin.gg, that's why

[stuck wharf]

monka genshin.gg

[graceful jetty]

https://fixupx.com/GenshinImpactOC/status/1796262598683308395

[lament shuttle]

@dense elbow this answers the " does he refresh or whale" lol

[dense elbow]

[kind turtle]

damn, that's a lucky f2p

[oak copper]

least ambitious reroll acc, surely

[upbeat fox]

Helios cleaver or broadblade#41 for jiyan

[kind turtle]

i wish i had that kind of reroll sanity

[lament shuttle]

at what point do you just write a script to reroll

like those chinese account rerolling multi boxers surely can be further automated

[oak copper]

probably at the point where you are trying to make money off of it

for personal use you are probably done rerolling by the time you have figured out how to automate it properly

[stuck wharf]

is db19 ul gated

[kind turtle]

yeah, 40

[stuck wharf]

fuck

I'm still 30

[kind turtle]

nobody is 40

[dense elbow]

im at the point where im tempted to just spam my fragiles

[kind turtle]

yeah i've only got the 4 from reaching ul35

[blissful tulip]

Resist the temptation

[kind turtle]

i'd just love to get the 4 gold tuners and 28 purple tuners from spending them

[dense elbow]

tbh im not saving too much by keeping them around idt

😔

[kind turtle]

reaching ar40 gives another 10

[blissful tulip]

Honestly believe it'll take us 3 patches just to get to level 80/90 characters

[kind turtle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1liKAACsG0QIwTdHwHnYU748jBJnACKXu_nd7GjKQkx0/edit#gid=0

apparently has the union xp lists

from my current status uh

is pretty huge

[blissful tulip]

It really will take over two patches

[fickle kernel]

wonder how kuro will react to the claymore drama

[kind turtle]

the jiyan sig?

[fickle kernel]

yea

surely they just buff the claymore?

[fickle kernel]

makes the most sense and doesnt cost money

thats a lot of work why not just buff the claymore ToT

[kind turtle]

because we can't have creep on patch 1.0 banner 1 smh

if anyone wants a ULXP chart, total XP on the left, and XP to next level on the right

[fickle kernel]

it goes up to 80?

[kind turtle]

yeah

[fickle kernel]

um...

[fickle kernel]

what UL unlocks max character ascension

[kind turtle]

i forgor what max level is so

assuming it increases normally

[oak copper]

Would honesly make the most sense. Forcing Jiyan to use his Intro + Liberation to get his Sig stacked up is technically not a problem but is unnecessarily restrictive. And Calcharo just doesnt benefit whatsoever anyway

[fickle kernel]

everyday i become less of a wuwa shill and more of a wuwa doubter i fear

[oak copper]

Game is just heavily undercooked

Game would've needed another 6-12 months

[fickle kernel]

feel bad for them

game coulda been so good but execs prob demanding release

[dense elbow]

coz the weapon wouldnt work how people wanted even if they changed it

[fickle kernel]

wdym

[dense elbow]

its heavy dmg%

calcharo does literally 0 attacks that deal heavy dmg

his heavy atk during burst deals liberation dmg

so even if cal could proc the effect

he has no use for it

so the people pulling for it expecting it to work on cal coz he can proc the effect are honestly just as dumb 😭

its still a gud weapon for him even if he cant gain any benefit from the passive but

the reasoning of "i pulled it for my calcharo and now he cant use the effect coz the weapon translation was wrong" is just as much of a user error of not reading calcharos kit

[fickle kernel]

yeah but isnt that just an even better reason for them to buff it? it gives the complainers nothing ti complain about and doesnt rly affect balance since cal still cant use it

[dense elbow]

even if they gave it the condition of proccing on skill

it doesnt solve the situation of why ppl pulled for it lol

[oak copper]

think its more about not needing to intro to get 2 stacks so you could solo Jiyan

[fickle kernel]

yeah but it sheds kuro of any blame

[dense elbow]

itd be very nice for jiyan i agree altho idm a sig weapon being restrictive

in comparison yinlins is barely restrictive at all

[oak copper]

Yinlins is so much more cracked as a universal weapon

[dense elbow]

idk they fixed the translation and are taking requests for compensation personally so ppl can quite literally request what they want

thats ALOT more than what ive seen other gacha companies do

[fickle kernel]

no i mean its good for kuro to do that they just chose the option that is the most work for them

[dense elbow]

when similar situations happened in games like ToF, ppl who wanted it could request a rollback on their acc

[fickle kernel]

which is surprising

[dense elbow]

idk buffing a weapon is the worse choice in the long run imo

sets a precedent that they can just change whatever tf they want after the fact

which im not a fan of

[kind turtle]

if it stays at 2 stacks cap, does it really change much to the actual effect?

[oak copper]

I'd guess its a budget thing. Games like Genshin and WuWa cost tons of money to make and the prospects of cooking this game for another year just weren't financially viable for them

[dense elbow]

the stacks isnt the issue but no the ppl wanting it for cal didnt read cals kit

completely their fault if thats their reasoning imo

[oak copper]

For Cal its definitely skill issue

Although the weapon is still Cal BiS anyway isn't it?

[dense elbow]

idts

pretty sure the standard weapon is better by a few %s

[oak copper]

since he can use some ER now after the nerfs?

[dense elbow]

very close

[fickle kernel]

prydwyn has standard as best but prydwyn also didnt read cal's kit originally so they kinda lost street cred in my eyes

[dense elbow]

https://www.prydwen.gg/wuthering-waves/characters/calcharo

[dense elbow]

in what way did they not read it?

[oak copper]

that was the other way around a few days ago

[fickle kernel]

they had jiyan weapon way above standard

originally

[dense elbow]

pretty much all calcs were redone last night too tbf

coz of the mech abom tech

like

for every character

[dense elbow]

maybe they also wrote in 48% heavy on his liberation?

im not sure id have to ask

[oak copper]

it was 105% of Razor a few days ago, I'd imagine 48% on his Ult CAs would've lead to a larger advantage but maybe not

[fickle kernel]

i mean im being a bit dramatic when i say they lost street cred bc im very ok with ppl making mistakes

it was more of a joke

[dense elbow]

tbf

its 1 person doing all these calcs

[kind turtle]

mech outro skill buff gonna become huge when encore gets yinlin sig & offfield buff

[dense elbow]

mech is just broken

the fact the generalistic ATK set can be within 5% of BiS set on pretty much all characters

sometimes even on par or better

is ridiculous

[kind turtle]

farm 1 echo set ever (except dreamless)

[dense elbow]

[fickle kernel]

how can kuro even fix this situation

lol

[dense elbow]

they dont

unless they nerf echoes directly

which im very against doing personally

unless they just

release better echoes for all other sets

[oak copper]

I kinda think having the echoes be tied to sets is kinda bad for the system. Instead of people experimenting with different Echo effects everyone just has their sets because Set Bonus + Passive dmg increases on the 4 Cost ones

[fickle kernel]

id be okay with them nerfing echoes i dont think its a big deal

[kind turtle]

next ToA the damage threshold goes up 100%, then changli and jinhsi deal double jiyan's damage but have 0-damage outros

[oak copper]

They gotta keep people grinding

[dense elbow]

mhm lmfao

im happy to see more like dreamless tho

like

echoes that give additional effects to specific chars

[kind turtle]

flaming woolies echo pog

[dense elbow]

unique way to bring up other chars

[floral bone]

im about to cheese the 3 early floors of the abyss with 3 mecha abominations and jianxin ngl

[fickle kernel]

idk why the gacha community is so against nerfs like i understand being against character nerfs but why is nerfing echoes or artifacts a big deal

[dense elbow]

because nerfing echoes also indirectly nerfs characters too

its part of their build

[oak copper]

refreshers in shambles, its all about money and perceived value of their attachment to the game

[dense elbow]

some characters may rely on their echo a lot more than another does

and fucking them over with that is just kinda cringe

[oak copper]

and that aswell, yeah

[dense elbow]

i put the work in to farm something

bam it gets nerfed to oblivion and is now useless

wow

thanks for wasting my time

[oak copper]

wasting time is particularly cringe in Gachas because stamina

cant just buckle down and grind something new out on the spot

[fickle kernel]

is it not the same for old league of legends, TCGs, MMOs, games like diablo

[dense elbow]

i get that releasing a new echo with better effects is gonna do that anyways
but id rather have my effort be made use of till it needs upgrading, rather than put the effort in and get cucked directly for doing so with no alternative

[fickle kernel]

but its only a problem when gachas do it

[dense elbow]

im not at the liability of random gacha bullshit in league to get a character

if i want a character

i can just buy them

[fickle kernel]

i said old league

[oak copper]

has a lot to do with the money involved. Diablo you buy the game and then thats it. You dont pay for the things that are getting nerfed directly

[dense elbow]

i mean idk how league used to be

[fickle kernel]

u had to grind games and spend currency on runes

[dense elbow]

the only gacha ik that actively buffs and nerfs stuff post release is epic seven

[oak copper]

I think it'd be better if they did Balance Updates occasionally to iron out things

but its a touchy subject for Gacha players

[dense elbow]

yeah im happy with balance patches but idt something needs nerfing unless its directly shitting on game balance

bennett

[oak copper]

Bennett should've definitely eaten a nerf

[dense elbow]

couldve passed it off the same way they did xq

[oak copper]

and that power should've gone to every single ATK scaler in the game

[dense elbow]

"oops misinput a number my bad"

tbf

it didnt help that they did nothing to help counter the bennett issue

they didnt release atk buffers competitive with him

they didnt release a majority of atk scalers that didnt need him / want him

[oak copper]

Genshin and Support releases are an issue in general

[dense elbow]

mhm

they made the problem

[oak copper]

Kazuha is still the best unit you can pull basically

[dense elbow]

and chose not to fix it

yet with HSR bronya stood out like a sore thumb

[kind turtle]

that's why i run nilou and navia so i never pull kaz

[dense elbow]

and they built around that power level

[dense elbow]

as long as i dont see you mention plunge navia we're good...

[kind turtle]

[dense elbow]

youre on thin ice mf

[kind turtle]

it's the team i run

[kind turtle]

it removed bennett from the equation

[dense elbow]

saved by this

[kind turtle]

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/nakiri-ayame-hololive-ojou-ayame-ojou-yo-dayo-gif-19961161

[kind turtle]

ayame my #1 goat

[dense elbow]

bennett they let foster, fucked over characters as a result, gave him no competition and look where we are now

[oak copper]

I'm quite curious how WuWa is gonna approach that situation. 3rd slot feels super dead rn. I feel like we're a hair away from 2 unit Teams doing more damage if they are just energy sufficient enough

[kind turtle]

plus HP-scalers being balanced around bennett-buffed atk scalers

[dense elbow]

it feels VERY dead yeah, its literally rn just verina who actually uses that slot well imo

some scenarios jianxin

otherwise its just whatever character you can find that can run bellborne and glow set

you arent running a char for what theyre good for youre just using the slot for an external effect

[kind turtle]

i dont even think my mephis run would be faster with 3 characters than just solo encore tbh

[dense elbow]

said external effect should be in addition to a kit imo

[oak copper]

question is how much worth it even is to swap to them. Bell ofc works but why waste time on building concerto if your DPS could just go and fire away

[dense elbow]

yeah i find it funny how they tried to fix stuff like this and still failed

😭

[oak copper]

Like, if Jiyan didnt take time to generate energy I wouldnt have much trust in Mortefi being worth it

[dense elbow]

depends on the situation, generally verina will want to run the concerto energy weapon later on to help get that concerto up ALOT quicker

[oak copper]

and sometimes I wonder why I'm even on Verina

[dense elbow]

coz a strict 15% dmg increase to your entire teams dmg for 30s with a 20% atk buff on top

thats pretty fkn huge

and thats before echoes

[oak copper]

its huge but you also spend time to get that is the thing

[kind turtle]

sanhua's only on my team for the rare moments she actually gets her outro, which isnt common because of the timesink on her to actually get it

[dense elbow]

yeah as i said she generally wants to run a weapon later on to help reduce her field time getting that

and its pretty noticable

[oak copper]

and that time being worth spending is more predicated on DPS down time I feel

[dense elbow]

i mean if u build her that timesink is worth it imo

6s field time

incredible burst dmg

heron + outro into whoever

[oak copper]

I havent build Sanhua yet but when I quickly tried her, getting her outro felt sluggish

[dense elbow]

its extremely quick

[kind turtle]

and that aint happening until we get more than 29k or whatever echo xp from tacet fields

[dense elbow]

skill, ult, 2HA, heron, swap after 1st hit

outro

[dense elbow]

unfortunately

so shit

[kind turtle]

and 10 days projected until we reach ul40?

wtf

[dense elbow]

time to rip the fragiles

[oak copper]

And, yeah, thats also a point. Sub DPS can theoretically do very respectable damage but gear where

[dense elbow]

havoc mc having theoretically shit tons of dps in their burst rot coz of the low ft for all their nukes

but ER where?

😭

[fickle kernel]

jinhsi is tingyun

[dense elbow]

if you want an energy bot its sanhua lol

[oak copper]

working on it

[fickle kernel]

jinhsi is huahua

[kind turtle]

losing crests on experim tower after finishing doesnt actually matter right?

[dense elbow]

im literally using the ER weapon on them atm for it lol

[dense elbow]

hm?

[kind turtle]

so i can run mephis as trio team

[oak copper]

I dont have swords. Its awful. Got one Commando and thats it

[kind turtle]

i was doing the 1-1 2-1 1-4 2-4 encore solo

so verina had 0 energy

[dense elbow]

wym crests?

[kind turtle]

stars

[dense elbow]

i mean

if you got the rewards sure ig

but

im pretty sure you need x amount of stars at that moment

to get the rewards

[kind turtle]

yeah i already got 24*

[dense elbow]

cant just go 1 star the other floors to say you got 3 stars on each

[burnt shoal]

jinshi going to die too like tingyun?

[kind turtle]

ok i just rotation gaming'd encore-sanhua-verina, got 3:19 remaining on mephis w/ sanhua and verina outro every time
immediately did an encore solo after, got 3:18

[rotund drum]

is it over for the encore simps

[kind turtle]

in what way

[rotund drum]

cant even beat sanhua comp

does anyone know how many times jianxin's ult hits btw

i've never seen a 5* have such a vague kit description

even if its a standard one

[fickle kernel]

shes already dead

shes a ghost

dont u read the story

[burnt shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/hu-tao-ghost-melly-gif-20557082

[fickle kernel]

layla i thought u were gonna quit wuwa why are u still here

ur SO fake

[burnt shoal]

me want to try pull for jinshi maybe

if i lose 50/50 on her i quit maybe

[fickle kernel]

i said lets coop together u say u gonna quit

and now ur here

what do u have to say for urself

[burnt shoal]

me just doing dailies now

[fickle kernel]

always an excuse me and tomato love u and u give us NOTHING in return

[burnt shoal]

[stuck wharf]

where is echo xpge

I didn't realize it was this bad

[rotund drum]

i just realized the M in MF howler core stands for medium

i just assumed it stood for motherfucker

[neat robin]

Levelling echos so painful

Sure we can farm em all we want but cant even unlock subs to see which we’re keeping

[cobalt cobalt]

Thought it stood for metal

Metalface howler core

[stuck wharf]

what's the highest ul ppl reached in beta

do we know what the higher tier tacet field drops look like

[rotund drum]

37 or 38 i think

[dense elbow]

they completely reworked tacet fields from cbt2 to live

so we have no clue what the rewards look like

[stuck wharf]

yyaaaa I figured

smoge

[ruby rune]

new day is too fast lmao

[neat robin]

Im about to just level a stupid purple dreamless at this point

I need cr

[night mantle]

actually you can

Advanced tuner can only be used to tune purple echos

so they are useless on golden ones

[neat robin]

Yeah but echo xp where

[night mantle]

we have 75% return on that

[neat robin]

Ive got shitty gold echos ive levelled but cant replace yet

[night mantle]

just lvl bit by bit if nothing good comes trash it

[neat robin]

I’m trying

But also building 2 tower teams sucks

3/4 of the echos are all only +5 or +10

[night mantle]

yeah I haven't completely build 1 team yet

[neat robin]

Ok I got 1 gold cr dreamless

I cannot level it

But its a start

[ruby rune]

I FORGOR HER ULT HAS ITS OWN MULTIPLIERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[karmic crag]

She lowkey looks better than like

90% of the playables

[burnt shoal]

when i see graphics like that i feel like wuwa and zzz character designs aren't too different

[stuck wharf]

that's what I said 😔

playable construction girl when

[karmic crag]

REAL

should i build yanyang or sanhua

[neat robin]

Sanhua

[rigid shore]

hot

[night mantle]

Big tip: After reaching data bank lvl 18, if you wanna farm any echo's (bosses/common), just lower your world lvl. You will one shot everything thus increasing your speed. And yes this doesn't affect quality of echos drop or drop rate

[night mantle]

pin this plzzz

[thorny niche]

thanks for the tip

[rigid shore]

doesnt work with level 1 characters

sadge

[olive spindle]

What is Verina’s best set is a double dark team?

I was thinking the 5p healing set cuz of the teamwide atk buff

But I’ve seen people run the 5p er set with the Bell weekly boss echo

[ruby rune]

iirc it is the 5pc healing with bellborne as main echo

well atleast thats what leifa said to me before

[rigid shore]

just use variation for energy

u dont need energy set if u already have enuf and variation is like fav

[ruby rune]

yeah if you have the 4star weapon go healing if you dont still go healing but you can opt for energy for now

[ocean talon]

mento elnis

[rigid shore]

imagine it was all 69%

yay

[ocean talon]

nice

[keen jackal]

@graceful jetty yay

Done with selector banner

[kind turtle]

Yay encore nation

[dense elbow]

yeah verina is ALWAYS 5pc healing

5pc energy is more for chars with singular deepen effects

like sanhua

since you use heron with it to outro to your main carry

[olive spindle]

What mainstats do I target on Verina?

Healing and attack% on the other 4 pieces? Or healing + 2 ER + 2 attack%

[dense elbow]

5pc healing always

bellborne active echo

just full atk basically but if u wanna minmax or get one, healing bonus on 4 cost

[olive spindle]

Ok sounds good thx

[rotund drum]

i would get ER on her tbh

this became a lot more apparent in star rail since there's no such thing as field time

but you really need all the dps stuff if you want to make a dent

[dense elbow]

yeah you want ER subs on her

[rotund drum]

need crit, dmg, atk, dps weapon, and good mvs

[dense elbow]

but not rly the ER set

its mainly the 4 star weapon that gives concerto energy she wants

[rotund drum]

unfortunately all the 3-star echoes are bad and the only 4-star echo that has heal set is bell

bell is ok i guess

[dense elbow]

bell is amazing huh?

😭

10% dmg boost and 50% dmg reduction along with some possible interrupt res

[rotund drum]

i mean its a "free" shield i guess

[dense elbow]

its a lot more than just a free shield

😭

[rotund drum]

if there was a good 4-star echo with heal set then i might consider running dps verina

the echo calls do a lot

[dense elbow]

i mean if u want to run "DPS Verina" funny enough her best option rn is dreamless built for havoc% dmg

xD

its actually "worth it" at times but imo not better than using bellborne

[rotund drum]

you can run ER verina i guess

ER set i mean

[dense elbow]

ER set is fine but i wouldnt recommend it

[rotund drum]

but yeah anyway i'd go hb/er/er/atk/atk for stats on her since more ER = more ult = faster outro charge

[dense elbow]

yeah if u can find ER mainstats thats better

[rotund drum]

verina charges outro really fast for not much field time

[dense elbow]

[rotund drum]

you could run light set i guess

with dps subs and just use her as a quickswap burst

[dense elbow]

her dmg isnt worth enough to run light set

[rotund drum]

its fine if you have a damage echo lol

[dense elbow]

if u want to get dmg out of her you use dreamless and build havoc% xD

[rotund drum]

thats why you would run it

[dense elbow]

funny enuf better to do this than spectro dmg

[rotund drum]

its mostly just inferno rider who has a high base mv it looks like actually

fusion damage isnt gonna help verina though

[dense elbow]

yet you can swap cancel dreamless immediately

its not just the raw mv

its the fact you can get it off immediately and just fuck off

mech abom could be close but without 5pc atk idts

https://streamable.com/0y3hxy

@kind turtle

say hello to the new animation cancel

[kind turtle]

wtf 😭

levitator is the strongest ability

how do they let this happen

[dense elbow]

you cant like

fully cancel mid animation

but you can cancel the endlag of an attack

my issue is theres not too many chars who would want this

plus it stops you sprinting so youre just gonna dash anyways

like

encore N2 looping
sanhua N3/N4
hrover forte N2 and normal N2
only one ive tested so far thats nice to actually use is danjin E
or danjin N2 ig lol
can technically loop danjin N1 for a bit then transition to E

[small bronze]

why do i have s5 chixia

and s3 mortefi,

0 DANJIN

dodged all

i just want one for collection

[rotund drum]

the banner is rigged

dont pull trying to get danjin

[blissful tulip]

Is the timer broken in ToA?
I cleared the stage with 3:00:15 left, 2*
Cleared with 2:59:65 left, 3*

Downright wild

[kind turtle]

50ms of lag 😔

[rotund drum]

wuwa reddit automods the word genshit lol

[blissful tulip]

Would have pissed me off but I was just testing Chixia already had the 3* prior

It's good to know she has the ST potential

[rotund drum]

playing for the other team

[blissful tulip]

Specifically Genshit or Genshin?

[rotund drum]

genshit

[blissful tulip]

Good on them honestly

Don't want the subreddit to be full of pointless drama

Although Kuro is creating most of it themselves with their own issues

[rotund drum]

well people wouldnt be playing wuwa if they werent trying to get away from genshit

the only drama i've seen so far is performance randomly being bad for some people, echo xp droprates and calcharo being bad

although the last one is mostly on calcharo simp sfor expecting him to be diluc

[blissful tulip]

Their recent slip up has a good amount of people worried as well

https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1d4tork/kuro_games_leaked_the_emails_of_the_people_who/

Links to the official subreddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1d4so8l/kuro_games_leaked_the_emails_of_the_people_who/

[rotund drum]

isnt that standard practice for chinese companies

[blissful tulip]

Considered a serious data breach in JP, they have strong privacy laws

[rotund drum]

i dont think china cares about jp

i was reading an article about how its a huge pain to do business with chinese companies because they all act like they're going to get shut down by the CCP the next day

and will scam you for a quick profit the first chance they get even if it makes no logical sense to do so

they could be set to make millions in a year but they will scam you for $1000 now if they can

[blissful tulip]

I see

It'll likely be blown out of proportion again, but I genuinely hope Kuro succeeds with everything, they must be stressed out of their minds

[barren drift]

cray

the whole team crunching

[dapper oar]

so i did this world quest and it got to a point where we talk to Yhan and he had this echo exp items like the other simulation training

why didn't they have this per normal???

i spent one or two runs as trial bcs i couldn't believe we have that only to realise it's just for that world quest wtf

[barren drift]

U dont have to claim it lol

u can press escape and exit the domain

[dapper oar]

no exactly why i claim it is bcs echo exp farm doesn't exist rn

i was hesitant to instead not claim it

bcs I'm not sure if it's going to be permanent addition to Yhan's simulation training

[barren drift]

was it a lot of xp?

i dont rmb

[dapper oar]

double from tacet field i think

and it's just 40 wp

[barren drift]

oh

didnt realize

[dapper oar]

or maybe 1.5times

i forgot too

but it was def more as the tacet field gave so little

[kind turtle]

sweet

[ruby rune]

woahhh

nice

wait isnt this really good?

[kind turtle]

yes

[edgy cobalt]

lvl it up and tune it first then ask again

[lament shuttle]

Yep I mean you won’t know till you tune it

[ruby rune]

im broke so not yet

plus I dont have a havoc unit I wanna use rn so

[kind turtle]

an update to the situation

[dapper oar]

isn't it just better to refund the amount of astrites, it's what they do usually in other gacha games

[kind turtle]

kuro doesnt seem to know how to handle any kind of CS

[rotund drum]

i got scammed on the selector box too

for the 4*

nbd since its just a craftable 4* but lol

good to keep in mind for once the 5* selector box comes in

if you're clicking through them and accidentally click on and check one of them then click on the one you want without unchecking the first one

it wont switch the selection

you have to make sure to uncheck the accidental selection first

and that the checkmark shows up on the one you actually want

[kind turtle]

sweet encore upgrade while im farming for havoc stuff

[ruby rune]

time to wait for that 5star healing set atk%/hb%

4 runs still no 5star smoge

[kind turtle]

holy another encore buff

no critdmg sadge but still good

[rotund drum]

where are you getting echo xp mats

or are you just hyperfocusing her

[kind turtle]

@dense elbow encore status

[kind turtle]

i was trying to farm for havoc stuff 😭

[rotund drum]

personally i would stop leveling the 1-costs at 15 or 20 until you have everyone's crit and dmg echoes at 25

[kind turtle]

in terms of upgrade mats

[rotund drum]

that includes your jiyan/calcharo/etc for your second abyss team

[kind turtle]

my two teams are encore and dreamless

then 1.2 camellya

cope

[rotund drum]

you'll need 3 teams eventually

[kind turtle]

yeah, that's 1.2

[rotund drum]

so either way i wouldnt go too far into echoes with the current terrible xp droprates

unless they buff them and/or they get significantly better at higher WLs

[kind turtle]

i want to see echo mat droprates at wl40, currently it's 19k-26k xp per tacet field

but i level viable echoes to +5, if they dont roll crit i stop

[rotund drum]

ive mostly just been doing character and weapon ascensions with resin

getting traces to like lvl3 seems ok too

i think the trace level increase is linear so the first couple levels make a big diff

then it starts to drop off

[kind turtle]

my encore is maxed, verina has ult at t3 and forte at t4, then mc and danjin are all at 1

[rotund drum]

i tried tacet fields and it was not worth it in the slightest

[kind turtle]

it's the only thing for me to do now really

[dapper oar]

how do u have this many wtf

[ruby rune]

we are rioting

[rotund drum]

he probably bought them from the one-time shops

[kind turtle]

tacet fields are the worst thing to do until its the only viable thing to do

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abyss, holograms, etc

[dapper oar]

fobmaster alr did it's just an extra 1 per tier of echo xp

[kind turtle]

yeah i bought out the stardust shop earlier

[dapper oar]

[kind turtle]

i dont think its possible to reach ul40 yet though right?

[dapper oar]

it's why i was really mad when i realized the sim training wasn't permanent wtf

[kind turtle]

it should be in next few days, but i thought today was 38

[rotund drum]

its all client side iirc so he probably just hacked or datamined it

i remember people saying you could even unlock events and banners early

[dapper oar]

well if you buy every single thing including the waveplates through packages and bundles in game i think you can

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by just changing system time

[dapper oar]

really?

[kind turtle]

you were able to do yinlin's trial

but that's it

[dapper oar]

idk fob looks like someone that's absolutely mad didn't he maxed out danjin 3 days into the game or smth

[kind turtle]

none of the bundles even have waveplates lmao

this is the quality of bundle

[dapper oar]

idk actually i never even see those i was just going by genshin's

[kind turtle]

wait- the game removed my markers

wtf

i was tracking fish with those

[rotund drum]

anyway with the current resource crunch leveling to 60 for 180 resin is worth just because your stats will be bad otherwise

weapon too ofc

traces to 3 is cheap, 4 is okay if its only 1-2 of them that you need for the char

[rigid shore]

dps verina

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honestly verina heals just fine at lvl 0 everything atm

she just needs her first passive trace and heal set bonus

shes like 1.0 qiqi

heals way more than you need for anything in 1.0

[dapper oar]

atleast she buffs too lmao

[rotund drum]

hopefully they buff buffers

even with midxin ormidyan midtefi doesnt do that much

he's got the best scaling coordinated attack atm but even with midxin/midyan hitting heavy attacks on cooldown its still only like 90% per second

with 4* stats

[kind turtle]

:/

not another one