isnt it the sword with DEF? isnt it trash
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hollow citrus
isnt it the sword with DEF? isnt it trash
I think you're mistaking weapon class
If you mean broadsword from the same box - I didn't get it, because of my own oversight. Yes, it's the one with DEF, I think.
hollow citrus
Yes, this, I didn't get it
small bronze
what i meant was isnt it bad to use since it has DEF on it and calchero or jiyan wont use it
hollow citrus
I'm only Rank 21 or so, I don't have much alternatives
small bronze
i would rather refine this
hollow citrus
i would rather refine this
A 3*, huh...
small bronze
well if that whole def wont be used to deal dmg then idk, maybe im wrong 
hollow citrus
I get the point
It's just...My head has a problem with 3* weapons on 5 star characters ¯_(ツ)_/¯
small bronze
i get it i got lucky with my first 10 pull was 2x jiyan so i just pulled for his weapon
took me some time
but at least here its a guarantee unlike genshin
hollow citrus
I'm basically getting the guarantee Jiyan sig. Unless it's gonna be 79 out of 80 pulls 
I tried getting the Standard broadblade, but no early nothing again, so I got Jiyan.
hollow citrus
That's very far ahead
edgy cobalt
i would rather refine this
I’ve been using this on jiyan lol
been playing fine with it but if I can get the 5* standard broadblade then I can probably hit 12 -> 15/30 on hazard
small bronze
i need 2 more lvls until im 35 and i will get the guarantee standard calchero and then i will rock the abyss
hollow citrus
I got him with choice ticket as soon as I heard his JP voice.
small bronze
i took verina
keen jackal
FINALLY I CRIT
hollow citrus
I think she is my choice now, but I'm not touching that banner any time soon.
Unless I get the Standard weapon fast.
fickle kernel
if u close the game its not!
keen jackal
maybe itd be less tiring if the game wasnt cooking my phone and running at 20 fps
cant even lvl up echoes no more
i max refreshed and using all my fragiles or whtv theyre called in this game
fickle kernel
ur ahead of me
keen jackal
actually i could reach ul 33 today
fickle kernel
also comparing urself to others will only bring u misery
keen jackal
if i finish jiyan quest
and do some side quests
i still have a shit ton of quests to do
keen jackal
also comparing urself to others will only bring u misery
im good
i just wanna reach ul 35 and get my pulls
im a 10 pull away from the selector gacha
still dk if im gonna pick encore or calcharro
calcharro would be nice if i get yinlin
but i also rlly like sanhua and i can play her w encore so i might just get encore
fickle kernel
calhuro just gets worse by the day
get encore
better and more versatile and less frustrating
lament shuttle
bug fix for bosses
Test it 🙂
waxen flare
papor
lament shuttle
What
lament shuttle
compensation for echo recycle bug?
Were we getting less or more
barren drift
they give more creds
barren drift
probably some bug that gave sm gazillion creds
lament shuttle
Ah rip
kind turtle
kind turtle
they gonna delete your account like hoyo does with primos
lament shuttle
14 business days lmao
lament shuttle
Tbh idt I could spend that much
waxen flare
@dense elbow did something happen in wuwa
why is no one using flautist now and everyones using mech
timid sierra
whats mech
timid sierra
oh that one
willow jacinth
Wuwa MIGHT hate me
First the 78 pity on limited and now I just got to 77 pity on standard ...
fickle kernel
thats not even bad
ToT
hsr takes me to 80+ every time
and then gives me ice twink
stuck wharf
mf
why can't I upload pics here
anyways, doc has two different min rolls for flat atk, which one is right
flat def too actually
willow jacinth
hsr takes me to 80+ every time
Yeah but max is 80 in wuwa
dense elbow
why is no one using flautist now and everyones using mech
flautist got giga nerfed
it only hits 3 times now
fickle kernel
HELP?
waxen flare
flautist got giga nerfed
Wait what
kind turtle
so echo pity is real?
waxen flare
Are there any patch notes
kind turtle
😔
kind turtle
i aint recording 200 runs of overworld 😭
waxen flare
dreamless and world bosses appear to have different drop pities
well just bosses in general then
kind turtle
i'm just about to finish 50 crownless runs
dense elbow
ig coz calamity boss vs overlord boss? lol
waxen flare
ig coz calamity boss vs overlord boss? lol
turtle is calamity
kind turtle
meanwhile bell exists 😭
dense elbow
turtle is calamity
yeah they test bellborne after
fickle kernel
its fake
dense elbow
fixupx
dense elbow
tldr 3 cost echoes have a 4 pity system hmmge
kind turtle
waxen flare
oh yeah its fake i just read it sajj
dense elbow
when are they gonna open the 1.1 beta
it just doesnt exist yet
theres no word on it at all
kind turtle
are we not gonna get beta content 😔
waxen flare
whats wrong with balance in 1.0
kind turtle
only 8 more crownless runs until i can stop...
fickle kernel
whats wrong with balance in 1.0
whats right about it
dense elbow
Current Explanation of Echo Pity System to help you farm!
https://youtu.be/dNAQdClSfUA
kind turtle
bruh
waxen flare
Current Explanation of Echo Pity System to help you farm!
https://youtu.be/dNAQd...
so its even esier for bosses
pog
dense elbow
can someone explain to me
why tf theyre giving me 600k credits
if theyre gonna remove the excess anyways?
just lemme keep the excess? xD
dense elbow
idk how much money it made
no clue i definitely dont have loads
1 mill is like
eh
fine
kind turtle
dense elbow
ig they said "fk it if ppl are cheesing it we can give everyone affected a decent amount and have an even playing field"?
kind turtle
how do you even get credits from them?
kind turtle
dense elbow
lol
kind turtle
that's deletion
kind turtle
if you chug one it hands back the same mats
dense elbow
right time to pity farm im stick of not having a 3 cost on my encore
kind turtle
you too can solo mephis
fickle kernel
Yeah but max is 80 in wuwa
oh? whats soft pity
willow jacinth
50
fickle kernel
HUH
kind turtle
????
fickle kernel
um
wait @dense elbow
is anyone looking into making chixia into something
is her ult ratio not insane
kind turtle
and we are done thank god
dense elbow
can confirm the echo pity system works lol
finally time to get this fkn fusion mainstat
oak copper
The power spike on reaching UL30 is hilarious 
kind turtle
damn if i use my solvent im 90xp off 35 😔
stuck wharf
concerto/reso energy is per hit not per action right? so a 20%*3 MV with 1 energy gives 3?
somber willow
depends on character
stuck wharf
how's that work
kind turtle
concerto
kind turtle
there's on-hit and there's action
character's generate concerto from skills and stuff, or verina also generates it from her forte
but there's also the on-hit generation
stuck wharf
less?
kind turtle
@dense elbow do you know numbers
stuck wharf
less than the wiki data? or you just mean they're lower in general
dense elbow
<@280016643558604800> do you know numbers
should do yes, check wuthering.wiki
kind turtle
it has numbers for skill concerto but not normal attack stuff
stuck wharf
it does
stuck wharf
under damage data
kind turtle
aur
dense elbow
sanhua na string
kind turtle
i missed that section
dense elbow
kind turtle
how big is the concerto gauge
stuck wharf
100
kind turtle
looking with chixia, it does the total amount spread across the NAs
4 concerto total, 4hits each 1 energy
stuck wharf
4 concerto total, 4hits each 1 energy
huh?
kind turtle
huh?
chixia's n4 has a concerto energy generation of 4, but it has 4 hits as a multiattack, so each hit generates 1 energy
stuck wharf
sweet
somber willow
they buffed enemy hp a lot...
wraith steeple
ocean talon
aaaaanyway
should i use my stamina thingies
haughty raven
should i use my stamina thingies
just use your daily recharge waveplates and save your fragiles if thats what you're talking about
unless you wanna speedrun leveling your union level which isn't that necessary, or want to farm units asap, I'd save those fragile
timid sierra
can confirm the echo pity system works lol
what is this?
dense elbow
what is this?
video in pins
tldr 3 cost echoes have a hard pity of 4
world bosses have a hard pity of 2
weekly bosses have a hard pity of 2
lucid pebble
aaaaanyway
timid sierra
alright ty
ocean talon
they're at it again
timid sierra
i love when theyre at it and i just third party for ez farming
ocean talon
OH GOD A 3RD JOINED
timid sierra
i finally cleared all four floor of the two team level
time to go to the three team level of the tower :painge:
ocean talon
Yah
timid sierra
calcharo with a decent build ig, verina and sanhua with barebones kit, danjin with two havoc pieces and borrowing atk 1costs from calcharo, havoc mc with his own stuff kind of, and a barebones jianxin
thats my two teams
stuck wharf
does er affect the energy from wep passives or no
lucid pebble
calcharo with a decent build ig, verina and sanhua with barebones kit, danjin wi...
Four 5*.
timid sierra
really whale?
timid sierra
free five star selector calcharo, verina from choice banner, jianxin from novice banner
lament shuttle
my shits glitched
every boss i kill is dropping an echo
100% of the time > 16 bosses in a row
lament shuttle
You get 15 per week.
doesnt it reset on monday
lament shuttle
odd
timid sierra
bro why is there three waves in this stupid level
i cant do this
maybe the tower of adversity is meant to be endgame shit you cant clear when f2p and only like one week into the game after all
rotund drum
e1 lingyang, e1 jiyan, e6 chixia, e6 mortefi and e4 yuanwu
0 danjins
literally rigged banner
ocean talon
maybe the tower of adversity is meant to be endgame shit you cant clear when f2p...
i've only seen a whale clear it but he was using mc danjin and verina
i think he had 5 star weapons + good builds
ocean talon
no mats?
timid sierra
nope
ocean talon
i only had enough for 4 units
timid sierra
i kept rerolling a bunch of echos
so i only have calcharo with a decent build, the rest are all on partial builds
rotund drum
i guess ill build mortefi since the game keeps trying to give him to me
he's voiced by ragna the bloodedge i guess
ocean talon
also good support for heavy attackers
burnt shoal
is wuwa still alive
edgy cobalt
forced to mortefi when you have jiyan
tender willow
for wuwa hologram, at which point the boss atk start ramping up?
barren drift
isnt the boss atk increase after some point
there are 4 bossed
idk which one u talkin abt
rotund drum
probably the monkey
the monkey is the most rigged one
oh ur about to win im gonna jump up where you cant reach me and do my screenwide kill move
lol u ded now try again?
tender willow
there are 4 bossed
arent all hologram bosses will ramping up its atk after period of time? after 3min or 2min.
barren drift
arent all hologram bosses will ramping up its atk after period of time? after 3m...
yeah it happend on higher difficulties only
tender willow
yeah it happend on higher difficulties only
is it after 2min or 3min? or after the timer finished?
barren drift
is it after 2min or 3min? or after the timer finished?
3 minutes into the challenge, the boss will start ramp up their attack
so the first 3 minutes the bosses' stats dont change
edgy cobalt
has anyone actually beaten hazard zone
I don't think whales are even at UL40 to get past 18/30 in hazard lmao
personally only managed 12/30 but will try 15/30 before reset
rotund drum
12 seems doable but anything higher seems like whale territory
15 maybe
you need a relatively beefy second team to get past that since that's the limit for a single team
doing the 1-cost with a babby team lets you do 2-2-3-3 with the good team
edgy cobalt
only way f2ps can reach 18 stars is if they pulled s0r1 jiyan and calcharo team
rotund drum
you mostly just need gear tbh
edgy cobalt
unless they can clutch UL40 before reset by wasting solvents like me before reset then its just not possible rn
gear is important yeah
edgy cobalt
yeah I think I talked to someone who's max refreshing
37-38 sounds abt right
dense elbow
yeah ik ppl who were 37 yesterday or day before i think it was?
burnt shoal
i remember in genshin you need ar45 for 5 star arti
in wuwa you can get it at like ar30
limpid forge
skibidi toilet echo
edgy cobalt
personally only managed 12/30 but will try 15/30 before reset
end of the road for me there's no way I can get 18 stars before it resets
rigid shore
crazy
haughty raven
ngl I doubt anyone has cleared all stars unless you're a whale but even then you'll have to deal with echoes rng
haughty raven
singapore
haughty raven
thats like somewhat above us
i forgor to mention this is sei, alt time cus main is muted
rigid shore
i forgor to mention this is sei, alt time cus main is muted
wait
damn wont u get banned with evading mutes
rigid shore
ten pulls for typo when
small bronze
why are people saying calcharo is getting worse and worse
they nerfing him or i dont understand something
the only 5* i dont have yet cause i put him last as the guaranteed pulls now questioning if i should switch
blissful tulip
why are people saying calcharo is getting worse and worse
Difficult to play for not much reward in comparison to Encore and other damage dealers
As well as Calcharo's cinematic intro skill wasting unnecessary time
For not much at all
small bronze
but what did they mean by getting worse as if he was stronger at the start
ornate basalt
the only 5* i dont have yet cause i put him last as the guaranteed pulls now que...
He pairs really well with Yinlin if that's something you're interested in
small bronze
or they just didnt realize that
ornate basalt
But yeah, he's just very hard to play
ornate basalt
but what did they mean by getting worse as if he was stronger at the start
Most likely backlash from the Jiyan sig drama lmao
blissful tulip
but what did they mean by getting worse as if he was stronger at the start
He was changed from CBT2, his plunge playstyle got completely gutted and as more tested him, folks realised that he had issues
As well as what NatC said
small bronze
i got jiyan and i wanted a second dps for abyss, encore will be better then?
i already got her too
olive spindle
Does the monkey skin reset or is it permanent?
ornate basalt
Although YL might change that when she arrives
blissful tulip
Does the monkey skin reset or is it permanent?
Unsure, likely permanent though
ornate basalt
You'll want a third team regardless eventually, so it's not like getting Cal is a bad idea
The only question being who on earth is going to fill the third sustain slot
blissful tulip
Tempest Mephis itself does not do much damage, maybe you can forgo a sustainer entirely for 1st side?
ornate basalt
Side note, Havoc Rover is busted if you're not interested in Cal Yinlin
HRover + Danjin tear through stuff w double Dreamless
small bronze
cause if my current team is jiyan mortefi verina, who should be on team with encore
ornate basalt
Sanhua Baizhi
blissful tulip
Sanhua + Baizhi
ornate basalt
Then for a third team, you run either HRover Danjin or Cal Yinlin
blissful tulip
Your third team is going to take a long, long while to be relevant, so take your time and focus on two teams for now
ornate basalt
Works out p well
blissful tulip
Level 100 bosses are no joke
ornate basalt
Tell me about it.
Also, is there an ideal build path for Jiyan in Illusive Realm 
The trial one
blissful tulip
Already struggling with Dif 4 Mephis despite having cleared him in ToA 3*
blissful tulip
Also, is there an ideal build path for Jiyan in Illusive Realm <:A_HuTaoDerp:791...
Baizhi is a more comfortable choice overall, but I've found success in the infinite ult path
ornate basalt
Baizhi is better?
blissful tulip
Just collect the pieces that fit your echo summon and you'll do great
blissful tulip
She did no damage when I tried her
She was my main go-to for farming the mode
ornate basalt
they even giving stuff for translation bugs
This relates to the Jiyan sig drama yes
blissful tulip
Any echo works, the best ones being Crimson Rider for the fire blessing (focuses on general atk buffs) and crownless (the echo skill is just outright broken)
ornate basalt
OK but
small bronze
This relates to the Jiyan sig drama yes
what does that mean? what happened
ornate basalt
Is there an ideal way to on-field Baizhi
blissful tulip
what does that mean? what happened
Very mistranslated description
ornate basalt
I was just NA spamming and pressing E / CA when the thing was full
blissful tulip
Instead of intro + ult, it was intro + skill
ornate basalt
No damage
ornate basalt
Instead of intro + ult, it was intro + skill
I still get confused
I remember deep down that like
Liberation is ult
blissful tulip
I was just NA spamming and pressing E / CA when the thing was full
Oh, that path is less optimal, use the one that enhances your basics after skill
blissful tulip
Resonance (Liberation)
The addition of resonance heavily confuses things
ornate basalt
Oh, that path is less optimal, use the one that enhances your basics after skill
So how do you actually on-field her
blissful tulip
Although I assume in due time, the community will adjust
ornate basalt
Haven't looked at her kit since I got Verina
blissful tulip
So how do you actually on-field her
From my experience, you mainly spam BA with occasional uses of E and echo, she's very simple to get a hang of once you've found an optimal build for her
Which in the roguelite, essentially means choosing all of the blessings that benefit your echo
The additional character buffs you obtain should buff the first skill you choose
Heavy attack is not a worthwhile build on Baizhi
small bronze
is danjin good? shes only one i didnt get from the banner
i kept getting mortefi cons
blissful tulip
Although I assume in due time, the community will adjust
After all, in Genshin, the terms are classified as elemental skill and elemental burst
small bronze
which i dont complain
ornate basalt
So you don't consume her gauge w CA?
ornate basalt
is danjin good? shes only one i didnt get from the banner
Really good in my rxperience
blissful tulip
So you don't consume her gauge w CA?
You do not use CA at all
ornate basalt
But I have her S2, so that might be why
blissful tulip
is danjin good? shes only one i didnt get from the banner
Fantastic character
ornate basalt
She's rated really highly everywhere though
small bronze
do we know what 4s will be on second banner?
blissful tulip
Helped me with this
ornate basalt
do we know what 4s will be on second banner?
If the rumors are true
That one is going to be pain peko
blissful tulip
do we know what 4s will be on second banner?
Yuanwu, Taoqi and a third I'll remember in a moment
blissful tulip
If the rumors are true
Was officially revealed afaik
ornate basalt
If you're more concerned about the 4 stars, roll on this banner
blissful tulip
Ah, Aalto
ornate basalt
Pray you don't get Chixia
blissful tulip
small bronze
i just wanted danjin
ornate basalt
Nice
blissful tulip
i just got a 5*
Congrats on the lucky streak
small bronze
Lmao i got calcharo
time to switch the guarantee i suppose, which one is worth to get c1 from standard??
blissful tulip
No one, who are you missing?
blissful tulip
Not recommended, yeah
small bronze
soo only he is missing for me
blissful tulip
Either Verina S1 or Jianxin S1 if you want to use her as a damage dealer
Calcharo's S1 isn't bad for energy regeneration either
Encore's S1 is a very mediocre 12% fusion dmg bonus
small bronze
i really used up all my luck now in my last 30 pulls i got 4 5 stars
blissful tulip
In your case, Verina and Encore are the highest priority
small bronze
at least i wont be painfully getting c6 qiqi like in genshin, always wanted diluc and i just got him recently xD
blissful tulip
While Jianxin and Calcharo can be built some other time, you can use level 1 Jianxin for CC without any issues on certain floors
Works out tremendously at times
Couldn't have gotten 3* without her
small bronze
ill do that then i got some moons to use up
blissful tulip
Take your time, there is absolutely no need to rush endgame
Especially as we've already reached the "endgame" farming loop this early on
small bronze
also last pull i got chixia and this second pull i got mortefi, guess im not getting danjin
blissful tulip
Despite the fact that we're realistically in midgame
small bronze
dodged
blissful tulip
also last pull i got chixia and this second pull i got mortefi, guess im not get...
Encore's there to help you with DPS needs
Danjin is a solid alternative
small bronze
so danjin is a main?
ornate basalt
Encore and Jiyan are realistically all you need for now
ornate basalt
so danjin is a main?
Kinda
She plays qs with Havoc Rover
But she can definitely on-field a lot
blissful tulip
so danjin is a main?
She takes up more on field time in comparison to Havoc Rover, yes
small bronze
also the fact they are giving us 5* constelations to buy is crazy to me now im not sure if i sohuld spend those on extra wishes
or save up
blissful tulip
Although she isn't exactly a "main" in the sense Calcharo or Jiyan are
blissful tulip
also the fact they are giving us 5* constelations to buy is crazy to me now im n...
For the time being, Sequences on standard characters are rather eh
As we get more limiteds, the sequences should start increasing in power after the honeymoon phase
Save up for those imo
Or for a character you heavily enjoy
ornate basalt
Correct
Limited S1s are bound to have a lot of value in the future
Would just save up for those
blissful tulip
I doubt the powercreep will be horrible, but knowing how Kuro handles FOMO in PGR
It's best to stay on your feet if you want to be consistent with the game
ornate basalt
PGR has consistent power creep lmao
The difference is that you don't need to rank high in order to get all the limited currency
blissful tulip
Don't even need to rank at all, just participating gives you everything
ornate basalt
Well
blissful tulip
Not sure ToA is going to be as friendly
blissful tulip
Final level
ornate basalt
Idr anymore
blissful tulip
Norman 6
ornate basalt
Ah
small bronze
damn s4 mortefi increases his ult by 7 SECONDS??
ornate basalt
Yeah Norman
ornate basalt
damn s4 mortefi increases his ult by 7 SECONDS??
Xiangling C4 moment yes
small bronze
damn i want it now im s3
blissful tulip
Norman 6 is a DPS check to me unfortunately, can't hit it in time for some of my teams
ornate basalt
blissful tulip
Especially dark and fire
ornate basalt
damn i want it now im s3
I mean they're your pulls
blissful tulip
damn i want it now im s3
This is how they bait you 
ornate basalt
Just hope you don't mind the 0.8% chance for a 5 star
small bronze
im just a welkin enjoyer but my guarantee i would like to keep for next banner
im not gonna be that lucky though
blissful tulip
Has anyone here beat Dif V holograms yet?
I'd like to know if they have any new moves
Doubt I can beat them due to lacking DPS
barren drift
dang thats so doodoo water
barren drift
im debating whether i should risk my guarantee
small bronze
and what abt a calcharo team?
small bronze
next banner 5* uses a rectifier right?
barren drift
holyshit
yinlin's weapon is so juicy
im going to try cop it for encore
after trying for yinlin
4 crit dmg
this is crazy shi
bruh i rolled all these inferno riders but none of them is crit rate
ruby rune
IM BACK
rigid shore
Hi back
barren drift
tempest mephis moveset is crazy
stuck wharf
wait do you not need to be on field to get echo buff
like monkey
you can swap cancel and still get it?
rigid shore
tempest mephis moveset is crazy
Love that boss
keen jackal
Yay
kind turtle
encore's n3 and her outro triggering parry
if you ever want to parry with encore
if you know the boss patterns its pretty consistent
blissful tulip
I can finally bench Spectro Rover
barren drift
investigator woa o7
kind turtle
fuck this game
rigid shore
fuck this game
Baizhi
rigid shore
50:200 so technically 1:2 ratio
Wha
kind turtle
sweet nice
i need crit rate on one of my 3-costs to hit 100% with yinlin sig, but that requires rolling something better than this
dense elbow
Wha
the crit dmg in this game shows as an extra 100 vs genshin but in terms of the dmg formula its the same
genshin does x(1 + CDMG) on a crit but wuwa just does x(CDMG)
dense elbow
i need crit rate on one of my 3-costs to hit 100% with yinlin sig, but that requ...
and this is pretty gud already for our level
how much was yinlin sig again?
kind turtle
36.8%?
kind turtle
36% flat
kind turtle
😭
dense elbow
sidenote
the rolls in this game have to be rigged
like
aintnoway im that unlucky that DEF is just way more prominent than the others
💀
dense elbow
whereas other peoples rolls on this same sheet are like
even across the board
so why does the game hate me???
😭
kind turtle
let me check mine
ornate basalt
I can finally bench Spectro Rover
I'm just waiting for Yinlin to come out
I'm leaving like
1.5k points undone
blissful tulip
Make sure to alternate between characters every once in a while
Mode gets repetitive fast
ornate basalt
I got the relevant achievements for all the charas I think
Oh.
My level 1 Chixia is gonna come in clutch
dense elbow
I'm just waiting for Yinlin to come out
same but because i want that weapon
the weapon getting better for encore by the minute lol
ornate basalt
So I hear
rigid shore
the crit dmg in this game shows as an extra 100 vs genshin but in terms of the d...
Oh yeah
blissful tulip
My level 1 Chixia is gonna come in clutch
Just level her up to 40 and rely on the crownless echo
- lowest difficulty
kind turtle
slightly rigged because of ones ive deleted but
oh yeah i hate the fact i have both of these
SWEET
dense elbow
slightly rigged because of ones ive deleted but
yeah ive been tracking all of them even if i delete
but its a sheet with others
so it grabs everyones results
so far they all seem pure random
i just got fucked over
kind turtle
kind turtle
yeah that looks random enough
high rover
wheres mine 
rotund drum
debating whether to level traces or just spam echo mats
echoes seem to be the biggest net gain in power overall although going to like level 3 trace for the important dps stats probably doesnt hurt
but the droprate for echo mats also kinda sucks
ionic sage
I think traces are consistent though and you should start with them first. I used to do that where I’d spend hours farming relics for a smaller increase in damage versus maxing skills first lol
blissful tulip
<@272439835694727170> did u figure out how to get up here?
Climb high enough and glide down until you can reach the hookshot up to the top of the tower
You'll be able to get the casket that way
dense elbow
Climb high enough and glide down until you can reach the hookshot up to the top ...
theres no way theres anywhere near close enough
💀
blissful tulip
theres no way theres anywhere near close enough
Top of Jinzhou building
Or even the mountain
dense elbow
do u even have the stamina for that?
lament shuttle
Fly from mountain
olive spindle
What would be the best set combinations for dark Rover? I was thinking double crit 4 cost echoes with a 3 cost and a 1 cost using 2p attack 2p dark or is 5p dark just straight up better?
lament shuttle
You don’t need food
keen jackal
Thought lvl 120 bear would be harder 😭
blissful tulip
The level 120 bear is dodging competition
keen jackal
yea all u have to do is dodge properly
rotund drum
the two bears in moc2 are kinda bs though
i had to use jianxin and mortefi to clear it
kind turtle
do u even have the stamina for that?
i did it from the top of jinzhou building, no stamina food
rigid shore
not gonna talk coz my name is weird rn (gamba)
kind turtle
just use grapple whenever you can
oak copper
why is grouping in this game just not working?
blissful tulip
Yangyang's grouping is poor and Jianxin's range is low
dense elbow
i did it from the top of jinzhou building, no stamina food
yeah i got it ty, also is there 1 extra casket or?
kind turtle
there's 10 extra
blissful tulip
As well as the enemies loving to spread out in some ToA floors
oak copper
Yangyang's grouping is poor and Jianxin's range is low
I wanted to try smth with Jianxin but its not even the range, the mobs just do not care
dense elbow
why is grouping in this game just not working?
ive been feeling this same shit, for me stuff like yangyang just doesnt work but then ive seen clips of people getting mad succ with it
and jianxins just looks like it clears
fkn weird game
blissful tulip
I wanted to try smth with Jianxin but its not even the range, the mobs just do n...
Ah, if you mean the havoc flowers, they are rooted and cannot be moved
kind turtle
dense elbow
there's 10 extra
annoying i still need them for exploration then 😭
keen jackal
Yangyang's grouping is poor and Jianxin's range is low
who needs yangyang or jianxin when u can pull jiyan to group and then use havoc mc
oak copper
Ah, if you mean the havoc flowers, they are rooted and cannot be moved
was trying it for ToA with the elemental geodes and the birdies
dense elbow
who needs yangyang or jianxin when u can pull jiyan to group and then use havoc ...
coz swapping off jiyan is cringe
dense elbow
was trying it for ToA with the elemental geodes and the birdies
exact same floor i tried
blissful tulip
was trying it for ToA with the elemental geodes and the birdies
The birdies are immune while the geodes are spread out and not all of them may be sucked in
dense elbow
fucking dont move at all
oak copper
because they just live too long spreading across the entire arena
guess I gotta see if my Havoc Rover can do Mephis, so I can send Jiyan over there
keen jackal
i might use moonlit clouds on danjin cuz shes not doing much dmg in my havoc mc team
oak copper
Mephis has very high hp and moves around quite decently
I got my 3 stars with Jiyan, but my Jiyan just does a lot more damage than my Havoc Rover
oak copper
wait, I could just redo chambers 2 and 3 with Rover and get energy for Jiyan back that way 
So I jsut use Rover and Encore for the early chambers and Jiyan does the 2 final ones
blissful tulip
Good lord I don't even know what to farm
Do I just prefarm for level 70 on my main damage dealers?
lament shuttle
wait, I could just redo chambers 2 and 3 with Rover and get energy for Jiyan bac...
you can do lower dps team does 1-2, 1-3; 2-2, 2-3 and then your high dps team does 1-1, 2-1, 1-4,2-4
dense elbow
Good lord I don't even know what to farm
im at the point where i dont have anything else so its t*cet fields
talents are good
kind turtle
same 😔
oak copper
you can do lower dps team does 1-2, 1-3; 2-2, 2-3 and then your high dps team do...
yeah, that occured to me jsut now aswell. Bears here we go again
Havoc Rover doesn't have the damage for Mephis yet, would also need to build Danjin and didn't get around to that yet
really should've let Calcharo rot in the 80 pull Banner and gone for the weapon banner instead 
olive spindle
Do I go 5 dark on Rover or 2p attack 2p dark
lament shuttle
5 dark
dense elbow
5 havoc + dreamless always
olive spindle
2p 2p would let me run double crit mainstats or does that not really make any difference
As in not impactful enough
dense elbow
unless ur a split scaler for 2 different elemental types
it doesnt rly matter
the 5pc is just better
olive spindle
I see
dense elbow
5pc ATK with mech is competitive on a lot of chars
like 5% or closer for a majority
worse but universal
dense elbow
yes
lament shuttle
really should've let Calcharo rot in the 80 pull Banner and gone for the weapon ...
I’m only using standard pulls on weapon
dense elbow
its like a 1 frame nuke lmfao
lament shuttle
Since cons suck ass on standard 5*
olive spindle
Wow
kind turtle
wait... 4p atk increases outro skill by 60% right? encore has a busted ass outro that can even parry 😭
lament shuttle
its like a 1 frame nuke lmfao
I tried it, it’s the fastest swapping shit ever lol
dense elbow
wait... 4p atk increases outro skill by 60% right? encore has a busted ass outro...
too bad inferno rider cancel is just good lmao
iirc it was close tho
kind turtle
damn, and i cant even use it doing solo encore
dense elbow
oak copper
I’m only using standard pulls on weapon
I figured grab all the 5*s I can for the start, but particularly now with Havoc Rover and the Calcharo nerfs I just don't necessarily need him anymore, but that realization came a bit late for me, so now I'm 50 Pulls into the 80 Pulls Starter Banner
dense elbow
yeah
about 6% ish
but generally inferno better after incorporating the cancel into calcs
lament shuttle
I figured grab all the 5*s I can for the start, but particularly now with Havoc ...
I hope he’ll be fine with yinlin
And I’ll replace him eventually with another electro dps
dense elbow
I hope he’ll be fine with yinlin
tbh yinlin doesnt change my opinions on him
hes still ridiculously hard to play for the same or slightly worse returns than encore gets by glue brain button mashing
lament shuttle
tbh yinlin doesnt change my opinions on him
Thing is you need him to clear the hazard right side tower
30% electro is just too good
dense elbow
mhm
although
come yinlin release there will be teams without him that clear that
i aint grabbing cal tho idt
jianxin most likely
olive spindle
I figured grab all the 5*s I can for the start, but particularly now with Havoc ...
They were nerfed?
dense elbow
but this abyss really fucks me up
olive spindle
I main them I am unaware of this
dense elbow
theres so many havoc and fusion enemies
dense elbow
They were nerfed?
not post release but from cbt2 to live he got quite fucked
olive spindle
Ah
dense elbow
multipliers across the board down by 10+%
plunge dmg divided by 3
energy from DMs down by 60%
swap cancels in ult make you lose 3rd DM now
swap cancels make you lose buffs
c2 intro skill doesnt pause the game but all other intro skills do
and persisting from beta, having shit hitboxes with dodge attacks not giving stacks
lament shuttle
come yinlin release there will be teams without him that clear that <:E_pepelol:...
The tower resets before her banner
So idk what they’ll do
dense elbow
The tower resets before her banner
yeah youre not pushing 30 stars this reset
sorry to say
oak copper
I hope he’ll be fine with yinlin
He is fine for sure and I'm also gonna finish that Banner now that I'm that far in. Just from a present situation it would've made my progress faster to grab a 5* Sword instead since I have Jiyan, Encore and Havoc Rover for my 3 Teams to work with
lament shuttle
yeah youre not pushing 30 stars this reset
No but I’ll try and get as many as possible
Not like there’s anything else to do
dense elbow
yeah obviously
just i aint gonna recommend people "pull cal for an easier time trying to get high stars in the 1st ever rotation of tower"
lament shuttle
He is fine for sure and I'm also gonna finish that Banner now that I'm that far ...
Idk maybe just cut your losses atp if you have jiyan and encore already lol
kind turtle
i saw someone with 30* on the wuwa discord earlier 😭
lament shuttle
Wait really
dense elbow
He is fine for sure and I'm also gonna finish that Banner now that I'm that far ...
my issue is theres so many fire or havoc enemies that both hrover and encore get kinda fucked at times
😭
oak copper
Idk maybe just cut your losses atp if you have jiyan and encore already lol
I thought about that, but since there seems to be no source of frequent standard Pulls to work with I'd just be throwing 20-30 Pulls at Weapon Banner and if I don't luck out I have neither Clacharo nor a 5* Weapon
and long-term is whatever to me
5* weapon selector at 45
and Elden Ring DLC + Firefly in a month
kind turtle
Wait really
oak copper
and idk if I'll come back to WuWa after that
barren drift
das crazy
kind turtle
and
dense elbow
oak copper
coz no way they did that without whaling
"not mandatory" C6R5 Jiyan hiding behind the corner
dense elbow
literally
even whales ik are struggling
well they didnt buy sequences but
killing the ape is possible
3 stars? good fucking luck
lament shuttle
oh wait
Wait he used the electro char on the aero side
And the pyro one on the electro side
Wild
rotund drum
im thinking its probably better to just skip the selector banner entirely if you already have the good chars
dense elbow
people barely have 3 teams to begin with
kind turtle
aaaaaaand there we go
rotund drum
i'd be inclined to get the crit pistols or sword since crit is always op but there arent actually any good pistol or sword chars
lament shuttle
a dmg dealer is a dmg dealer
Ok but Leifa
He cleared the lvl 100 mephis
With calchero
????
dense elbow
i'd be inclined to get the crit pistols or sword since crit is always op but the...
havoc rover and sanhua are right there lol
lament shuttle
At lvl 60
oak copper
was easy after swapping things around
lament shuttle
yeah thats why i said theres no way this is a reasonable level of investment
Even if you
Giga swiped 10k usd idk if it’s reasonable lol
rotund drum
havoc rover and sanhua are right there lol
dunno what sanhua does and the game doesnt want to give me danjin
so i cant use havoc rover
dense elbow
dont need danjin to use havoc mc
slapping hrover anywhere has been doing people wonders lmao
dense elbow
3 usable subs is good enough tho
surprise, its at 2
rotund drum
isnt it just because of dreamless
dense elbow
aware...
lament shuttle
Rip
dense elbow
isnt it just because of dreamless
no their burst, skill and enhanced skill are all nukes
kind turtle
some's said there's 30* clears with s0 characters, so i'm hoping they respond with video
dense elbow
havoc mc is just good and dreamless makes them better lol
they arent carried by dreamless
rotund drum
idgi but w/e
rotund drum
her mvs looks bad overall
dense elbow
nuke after nuke after nuke
rotund drum
unless im missing something
dense elbow
ult being 980% at lvl 4
kind turtle
kirara burst
dense elbow
370% skill at lvl 4 is pretty fat too
barren drift
plus hmc's forte further increases havoc damage
dense elbow
kirara burst
ok but they actually have the atk and stats to make up for it 😭
barren drift
kind turtle
hey my kirar burst does 60k
barren drift
hmc's ult also increases dreamless' damage
dense elbow
just genshin nukes like to make use of a little thing called multiplicative reactions
dense elbow
also another 350% ish hit here when you reset skill
so skill HA skill is like 800% MV
dense elbow
Havoc mc gonna want cdmg echo
depends on ur weapon and subs ig
id rather the consistency
lament shuttle
depends on ur weapon and subs ig
C6 is 25% crit no?
dense elbow
when ur in dark state yes
but if u get a cdmg weapon later on
id want a cr mainstat still
lament shuttle
but if u get a cdmg weapon later on
Yeah but for now it’s more reasonable to have 5* sword with cr
dense elbow
youd only hit 100% crit in that scenario if you max rolled every crit rate roll basically
lament shuttle
So cdmg makes more sense
Cuz you’ll have 33% from lvl 90 sword + 25% + any subs + 5% base
rotund drum
i guess its probably ok if you use her as a quickswap
dense elbow
i guess its probably ok if you use her as a quickswap
which is how majority of people play havoc mc
they arent a fieldtime hog
lament shuttle
dont have a cr weapon
Yeah that’s fair but we get a free one at lvl45 ul
rotund drum
i havent really paid attention to how quickly she charges her forte bar if you dont field her
barren drift
crit rate outweighs cdmg tremendously imo
dense elbow
rotund drum
maybe if you use her with verina and just spam intros
lament shuttle
And not picking sword looks kinda grief
barren drift
we have many other multipliers other than cdmg
dense elbow
yeah the sword is the best option imo
blissful tulip
im at the point where i dont have anything else so its t*cet fields
Suppose so, alright then
dense elbow
if ur getting yinlin weapon anyways
blissful tulip
Got baited by a Wallenstein Chixia video and now I want to try her 
lament shuttle
I got sword off standard banner
dense elbow
my encore deserves it lol
barren drift
TRU
lament shuttle
But I’m gonna get another one
blissful tulip
She's likely much easier to play on mobile as well
rotund drum
the gun passive looks better overall though and we might get more gun chars in the future
blissful tulip
I hate fighting holograms on mobile
rotund drum
probably by the time we get 70 fates for it anyway
barren drift
camera?
dense elbow
the gun passive looks better overall though and we might get more gun chars in t...
if ur holding out for that just save the item lmao
barren drift
btw its weird that they do not have a single pull for targeted convenes, only 10xs
keen jackal
i couldnt even get my ult off :(
rotund drum
if ur holding out for that just save the item lmao
im talking about the standard banner
dense elbow
yes i know
dense elbow
but if ur idea is "holding out for a gun character" i wouldnt go pulling the gun early
or picking it from the selector
rotund drum
just need to make sure i pick the right weapon target in the meantime
dense elbow
just on the hopes of getting a gun char
rotund drum
i guess i can get the sword in case i ever get danjin/decide to build havoc mc
then get the gun from the selector later if i need it
i dont think danjin actually exists though
dense elbow
like they could release a weapon with 50000% CDMG and 100% CR
but if no one can use it
its fucking useless
rotund drum
people were saying that the banner is rigged in favor of the lion fuccboi and i believe it atm
i dont think ive ever seen anyone with danjin either
dense elbow
🤨
kind turtle
i have s3 danjin
dense elbow
rotund drum
pics or it didnt happen
dense elbow
right there buddy
rotund drum
looks shooped
lament shuttle
i dont think ive ever seen anyone with danjin either
I have friends with c6 Danjin and c0 jiyan
rotund drum
nice try though
dense elbow
rotund drum
its probably just account being cursed like usual
took me a while to get pela too
or any ER sword in genshit
keen jackal
26k non crit man 
rotund drum
i remember i was stuck on skyrider sword for a year on xingqiu
keen jackal
i lose a few years off my life everytime my rover ult doesnt crit
rotund drum
i dont remember who i gave festering desire to
e1 jiyan actually kinda feels ok at least
since you can bank the skill spam for more energy between swaps
he probably feels better overall if you actually focus him and get some ER stats
encore feels like she builds ult pretty fast but jiyan just takes forever with it
oak copper
based on the good number of rerolls I've done I haven't seen any particular bias towards any 4* or 5* unit
rotund drum
obv its anecdotal lol
but i have e1 fuccboi, e1 jiyan, e6 chixia, e6 mortefi and e4 yuanwu lol
and still havent gotten danjin
kind turtle
rotund drum
so its pretty obvious the game doesnt want to give her to me
blissful tulip
S2 to me