・wuwa-lounge

[dense elbow]

yeah thats my reason for pulling on it 😔

altho u can get 4 stars from weapon banner too

but

i started pulling before the selector ticket was given

[oak copper]

I already got punished for me wanting 4*s on the limited Banner

[wraith steeple]

miss yinlin is guaranteed

[dense elbow]

s3 danjin s2 mortefi from that so im alright

[wraith steeple]

less go

i need weapons like bad

[ruby rune]

i forgot to check but whats encore's weapon?

[dense elbow]

she likes yinlins a lot

[wraith steeple]

my jiyan and Calc crying with 3 stars

[kind turtle]

Catalyst

[dense elbow]

but rectifier if u mean weapon type

[oak copper]

I have them C1 each, but I only did 35 Pulls on the limited Banner or so and I'm a little scared to do more

[dense elbow]

i mean u grabbed jiyan already no?

or was that after ur 5 star?

[wraith steeple]

if you want yinlin don't do it

🤣

you're just like me

[dense elbow]

im at 47 currently for pity so

i want s6 danjin tho

[oak copper]

My Acc was a little more unhinged than I expected. Got Jiyan after 5, Jianxin after another 15 and then another Jiyan after another 11 and now I don't wanna do more

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/mortefi-wuthering-waves-wuwa-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-16975674091980635299

[dense elbow]

💀

well congrats to you

[wraith steeple]

damn buddy

[wraith steeple]

Ikr

[oak copper]

I also got Jiyan Sig at 51 but thats boring by comparison

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/golden-retriever-golden-retriever-annoyed-golden-retriever-back-hand-golden-retriever-hand-gif-26042788

[ruby rune]

bro has c1r1 jiyan

[lament shuttle]

jiyan + verina can get 9 stars on the first side of the bottom tower

[wraith steeple]

wowwww

[oak copper]

and thats why I'm an acc rerolling advocate

[proper juniper]

who is jiyan

Is it

the limited banner guy

[ocean talon]

do some elements deal more dmg against others?

[lament shuttle]

The one u swiped for

[proper juniper]

OH

[lament shuttle]

Ya

Xiao with abs

[proper juniper]

i love him

i love his ult

[graceful jetty]

you domt even know hsi name

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[proper juniper]

im bad with names

i used to not distinguish TK and TY

[graceful jetty]

fair enough

[ocean talon]

Jiyan

https://tenor.com/view/jiyan-wuwa-wuthering-waves-gif-8377382404325432471

[proper juniper]

yes

the guy i spent $80 for

[ocean talon]

u couldve just rerolled

unless u mean dupes

[proper juniper]

i have bad luck in gacha

[ocean talon]

oof

[proper juniper]

and im very impatient

[rotund drum]

imagine rerolling for midyan

[proper juniper]

the moment i unlocked the gacha part, i got him

[rotund drum]

you get enough primogems for maybe like 10 rolls

[ocean talon]

the only reason i didnt reroll is cuz my pre registered account was alr lucky af

[rotund drum]

after an hour

[ocean talon]

all earlies

under 10 pity

except weapon

[proper juniper]

im not really a meta person.. i roll for the looks

[rotund drum]

he's just walmart lancer

[proper juniper]

kkkk

[ocean talon]

saving for yinlin?

[rotund drum]

i used all my rolls on danjin

ill probs just wait to see the new kits

midlin doesnt look super amazing

[dense elbow]

nope

[ocean talon]

then uhm

[dense elbow]

its just "this enemy has more of x RES"

[ocean talon]

what do they do

BRUH

[dense elbow]

theres no "takes more damage from this element"

[ocean talon]

🏃‍♂️

[dense elbow]

elements are crayon colours

pick our favourite

[rotund drum]

some elements have worse sets and echoes than others too

[dense elbow]

enemies have 10% res to all elements except their own which is 40%

[rotund drum]

thats part of why calcharo sucks

[dense elbow]

yup

[rotund drum]

electro element has jack shit

[dense elbow]

electro stuck with tempest

coz they gutted flautist

mech deals electro dmg and is insane but its not on electro set

😭

[ocean talon]

kinda missing reactions rn

[proper juniper]

i just slap random teams bruh

Ahahahha

[rotund drum]

honestly whenever i do genshit dailies and fall from anything higher than knee height and die instantly i remember why i dropped it

hopefully wuwa sales get high enough that mhy fixes their shit

they're not gonna do anything until they have actual competition though

[proper juniper]

lol

[rotund drum]

its like #10 on app store sales in week 1 though so its probably over

[proper juniper]

wuwa needs to make the game more accessible tho coz it’s crazy that even with good computer, u cant play this game properly

lag is real

the lag is what turns me off

[rotund drum]

thats just server issues i think

[ocean talon]

i heard the genshin is getting better at 5.0 with "major" changes

[rotund drum]

its not

they're doing some minor cosmetic upgrades

[proper juniper]

Even with the lowest settings, im like struggling to play wuwa properly

[ocean talon]

BRUH

COSMETICS

[rotund drum]

still no cutscene skip, infinite stamina, wall run, gear loadouts etc

[ruby rune]

its server issues afaik

[ocean talon]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cry-spongebob-squarepants-gif-13191010122088454973

[ruby rune]

because whenever you load up the game and enter

it tries to load everything up

[proper juniper]

wuwa is just not mobile friendly

[ocean talon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-begging-pretty-please-beg-on-your-knees-pray-for-mercy-gif-26344462

[ruby rune]

since some mobs can attack each other even if you're not there

[proper juniper]

hilarious

[ruby rune]

and you need to move around for it to load because if you're idle the game can freeze for a bit

[ocean talon]

at least i was able to fully complete the abyss copy for the first and 2nd part

as in up to the mephis on both sides

[dense elbow]

genshin has this too tho tbh

its had it since day 1

not coz shits loaded

[proper juniper]

bro if i run in wuwa, my device heats up and the game is like 1fps

[ocean talon]

i saw some youtuber hit 50k and i was done

[dense elbow]

but coz for some reason the game open in the background for a long time not playing it just

fucks its performance lol

[ruby rune]

yeah

[dense elbow]

fixes on reload but

weird error they never addressed

[ruby rune]

mobile?

[proper juniper]

yeah

wuwa is not mobile friendly

[ruby rune]

cus if so the issue is you're using an iphone

[proper juniper]

if wuwa is available for imac, i’ll play it

[cobalt cobalt]

I play wuwa on mobile at 60 fps and it’s fine for the most part

[ruby rune]

and not to like sound rude but iphones in general + some of the new phones noawayds, tend to heat up faster

[proper juniper]

ur not rude

it’s simply truth

[ocean talon]

no my friend uses an Iphone and it works fine, idk if he plays under an AC or sumn

i forgot which iphone tho

[proper juniper]

probablh because i have old iphone?? I have 13

[ocean talon]

THATS OLD?

[ruby rune]

even the newers heat up too

[dense elbow]

that is not old at all

lmfao

[proper juniper]

I mean the latest is 15

[ocean talon]

thats not old..

[dense elbow]

the last like 4 iphones are practically the same tho xD

[ruby rune]

it starts around 10+ that its more prominent on heating issues when gaming

[dense elbow]

theres basically no difference

xD

[ocean talon]

MAYBE I AM SPEAKING IN PEASENT BUT BEING 2 MODELS BEHIND THE NEWEST ONE ISNT OLD

[dense elbow]

[proper juniper]

That’s why im not buying a new phone yet

[ruby rune]

bro the difference between 13 and 15 is that the 15 has like 2 more megapixels on the camera

[dense elbow]

me with an S20 Ultra when the latest is the S24 and i still wouldnt call this old lol

the note 10 is still great too i wouldnt call it old but its what id call the previous generation of phones

[ocean talon]

I have a note s9 but i dont use my phone much anyways

[dense elbow]

like samsung S9 and before is what id call old rn

note 9 is a bit newer than that tho

[proper juniper]

nokia 3210

[dense elbow]

coz the note line is newer in general

[proper juniper]

i used to have note2

lmao

like 10? years ago

[dense elbow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3-5z-y378c

🔥

[ocean talon]

it can run genshit on lowest graphics but i only do that if i dont have my laptop

[proper juniper]

genshin on high settings runs well in my phone

so im not enjoying wuwa very well coz my phone is frying

god forbid i run and fight mobs more than 1

[ruby rune]

also in regards to that i will say yeah they couldve prolly hold of the release for like a month or 2 just for performance fixes

[vapid river]

leifa, how bad are these cal nerfs? >.> and why is he getting nerfed

[dense elbow]

hes not "getting nerfed"

he was from cbt2 to live lol

[ruby rune]

but I feel like its bad to compare a 3year old game to a 1week game

[dense elbow]

in ways we werent aware of

[vapid river]

oh

do we know how he was reworked then?

[ruby rune]

the nerf happened when servers were up

[vapid river]

if it wasn't a nerf

[dense elbow]

@vapid river

[vapid river]

ty

[dense elbow]

well he was nerfed i wouldnt call it a rework

its just

hes not now getting nerfed post release

[vapid river]

this is fucked

[dense elbow]

he just was already

also him getting c2 in his kit wasnt actually a good thing xD

it fucks up his timings

so add on "c2 intro skill doesnt pause the game but all other intro skills do"

[ruby rune]

wait wtf I did not know that

is it only his intro skill?

[dense elbow]

only his

[ruby rune]

[dense elbow]

everyone elses and his non special intro skill are fine

xD

[vapid river]

so getting any cons for him make him worse

past c1

[dense elbow]

nono

his old C2 got put into his C0 kit

[vapid river]

so they just hate him

cuz he's not a general

that's fucked

[dense elbow]

[vapid river]

cn bias be like

[dense elbow]

and then most electro echoes got changed/nerfed

so

he has jack shit active echoes to use

[vapid river]

why can't the men i love get good things

[dense elbow]

tempest mephis and thats kinda it

[vapid river]

yeah...

it's all kinda bad

[dense elbow]

flautist got gutted without updating the description

it would be great if it worked how it used to

but it gets like

3 hits now

when it used to hit 10 times

[vapid river]

it lasts for like .3 seconds

even if i don't swap

or attack

it's like it blips in for 40 frames

then disappears

😭

[dense elbow]

yeah the short field time would be insane if it still hit 10 times

but

it doesnt

and they didnt update the description

[ruby rune]

oh yeah I saw zajef's thing about that

its 3 hits and 3 energy

also there was another thing that pissed me while leveling up mc

[vapid river]

yeah it's not even worth

[ruby rune]

they forgot to change the name of the city

[timid sierra]

so we just use thunderinng mephis now instead of flautist?

[dense elbow]

yup

wait

no not thundering

tempest mephis

thundering is dogshit

[timid sierra]

ic

you think yinlin will also want tempest mephis

[ruby rune]

oh yeah leifa what echo for encore?

[vapid river]

leifa what's your hmc doing for non crits?

max dmg

[dense elbow]

she also has like nothing

[vapid river]

highest you've seen

[dense elbow]

so just inferno rider...

[dense elbow]

not sure if crit or non crit but 18k ish iirc?

[ruby rune]

[vapid river]

what level is he?

[dense elbow]

may have seen higher that i wasnt paying attention for

lvl 60

i can calc the avg dmg rq lol

[timid sierra]

what combos do you even use on calcharo

[ruby rune]

that does not say peach blossom town

[timid sierra]

i just button mash but apparently he has difficult to properly execute but strong combos

[dense elbow]

theoretically against a lvl 60 enemy with all buffs up

so verina deepen, turtle, glow and atk buff
and danjin havoc deepen

for reference

ok setting it to 40% res gets me like 19k crit thats probably what i was seeing before on dreamless

[vapid river]

damn

almost 30k

[ruby rune]

this good on her or is any of the 3 stars better

[dense elbow]

nah use that

4 star base atk and atk sub

will do better than any 3 star on her

[vapid river]

only better 4* is the one that gives crit

[dense elbow]

yeah

[vapid river]

but if your luck is like mine with 4* weapons you won't ever see it

[rotund drum]

im still using the 3* cd one for jianxin lol

i may have to craft the ER one just to not be cope

i guess ER is copeable since it lets her spam her succ

[vapid river]

there's a 3* gauntlet that gives crit damage?

[dense elbow]

iirc yes? lmfao

[timid sierra]

yeah

originite: type iv

[vapid river]

wild

[dense elbow]

originite guantlet is hella good

coz the healing condition is on basic atk

[timid sierra]

its basically harbinger of dawn that heals you instead of giving you an hp restriction

lmao

[dense elbow]

which means quick as fuck glow buff condition

better than whichever originite wants u to counterattack

[ruby rune]

yeah its the one I have for jianxin rn

[vapid river]

that atk though

[dense elbow]

dw turtle + glow gud enuf when u can proc glow with negative field time

xD

N1 bam

[timid sierra]

on my sixtieth or so time murdering the bell trutle

i finally got a healing set atk echo

do i keep going for hb

[dense elbow]

its not a massive deal tbh

atk is fine

[timid sierra]

yeah tru

[vapid river]

i wonder which scales better at max level though

[dense elbow]

probably hb

but like

[timid sierra]

plus im too broke to upgrade anything so verina’s styaing at lvl 0 artifacts for a very long forseeable future

[dense elbow]

the main reason u want 5pc glow is for the dmg buff

not coz u want to heal shit tons

[dense elbow]

all she needs lol

[timid sierra]

yeah thats why she’s at the low end priority for me

[dense elbow]

5pc glow with turtle
40/50 for the talent

[timid sierra]

im too broke to even try out decent looking echos for my calcharo

no money no tuners no bitches no nothing

im gonna pepegaswipe on the bp

[wraith steeple]

[dense elbow]

i love doing a 10 pull trying to snipe a 4 star weapon

and then get this dogshit excuse of a weapon

[timid sierra]

discord is a disgrace to Discord this application

[dense elbow]

ok thats a lie its a very gud weapon

but like

i dont need claymores

💀

[timid sierra]

its fine but i need something for calcharo

[dense elbow]

and idt any claymore needs this rn

[timid sierra]

er is not what i want

is its base attack even high enough to justify it over the three star atk atk claymore

[dense elbow]

57 pity im too close to risk

[ocean talon]

i run 160 ER on Jinyan and it just barely gets his ult back per rotation.

😭

[dense elbow]

if it was liberation energy then possibly because cal is starving on energy lol

[ocean talon]

idk what i am doing wrong

[dense elbow]

but the liberation energy one is 3 star

[vapid river]

i'm surprised you did a 10 pull at 47

[timid sierra]

yeah why do peopke suggest ER at like 5-15 my liberation are never up off cooldown

[dense elbow]

i was desperate

it did not pay off coz sure i got a weapon

but it was useless

i wouldve preferred danjin s4

[timid sierra]

im at 50 pity with guarantee on jiyan banner

i should save for yinlin for my carrot maybe

[dense elbow]

i should ideally try sniping on weapon banner but i also dont need cals weapon at all and theres no losing 5050 lol

[timid sierra]

but jiyan looks cool

[rotund drum]

he's just dollar store lancer

[timid sierra]

i like his design

[ocean talon]

damn we get it😭

[dense elbow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630553822036623370/1243577809780080690/ak_ww240524.gif

[vapid river]

did you already get the 2nd free 4* weapon?

[ocean talon]

the one from the ore shop right?

[vapid river]

ye

[dense elbow]

no im ore lockedrn

[timid sierra]

this shit is so fucked i got a HB tempest mephis

[vapid river]

[timid sierra]

i want to just quit calcharo already

ZERO healing bonus turtles even on the moon set

[vapid river]

if you need to farm you can join my world? idk if it works like that or not

[timid sierra]

and an instant healing bonus tempest

[vapid river]

[dense elbow]

it does yeah, all ppl get the mats from wherever they are in the world

im just lazy and dont wanna farm

[ocean talon]

watching whales have infinite stamina <//3

[dense elbow]

[vapid river]

💀

[ocean talon]

i play too much i never hit 200

[vapid river]

i have so many pick axe pins on my map

every time i run into 3 or more nodes it make a pin

[ocean talon]

btw i noticed the stuff u can buy dupes with IS DEFINITELY A WHALE THING

MF SPENT 1K AND DIDNT HAVE ENOUGH TO BUY 1]

[timid sierra]

naw you just save as a dolphin for a year

mhm

[ocean talon]

i am f2p for this game

as long as possible

[dense elbow]

tbh most early cons dont look great anyways

like

jiyans cons conveniently start to get good around S4, maybeish S3

xD

[ocean talon]

i have 160 of the thing for character dupes

[ocean talon]

first one isnt bad for ER but idk abt the others

[dense elbow]

i mean its fine but if ur using skill off CD it doesnt matter lol

[ocean talon]

yeah but tbh i might just use my thingies for summons

[dense elbow]

thats what most ppl will use it on imo

[timid sierra]

yeah i just summoned them all

no patience

[dense elbow]

keep enough stocked up for a con just in case

[ocean talon]

i am saving for yinlin, alr got everything i wanted and then some

[dense elbow]

if some cahr gets some broken c1

[ocean talon]

ACTUALLY I DIDNT GET C4 MORTEFI

[dense elbow]

otherwise u can dip into em if u fail to get a char u want

[timid sierra]

how good are mortefi’s cons

they look good but i dont know how good

[ocean talon]

c6 is a 20

%

dmg buff i believe

w4 increases sumn by 7 seconds, was it his buff or his sub dps thing

i forgot

but its important is what i know

[timid sierra]

i huess its my good graces i got a c4 mortefi huh

c6 chixia though

and a c1 dungeon

danjin

[dense elbow]

s4 is ridiculous

s1 is very nice

[timid sierra]

where do i get more echo exp, tuners, and money

i literally have zero of them

so sadge

[ocean talon]

chests and td fields

but u dont get much either way

[timid sierra]

i figured

so sad

[ocean talon]

yeah i am stuck too

i alr hit exploration 55%-78% in all regions

i can explore but i wont get as much, i got all the bigger chests

[timid sierra]

oh ive been nonstop killing overlords trying to get crit rate echos

and failing

my exploration is all <40%

[ruby rune]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[timid sierra]

rip

[ruby rune]

tomorrow it is

[dense elbow]

so

this guy

farming in this game may have just become a lot easier for everyone

and its coz of this mf right here

insert the next incoming broken af echo

[barren drift]

what he does?

[dense elbow]

practically an instant drone strike with stupidly gud MVs

and is on ATK set

[barren drift]

oh dang

[dense elbow]

waiting on some calcs to finish

but this may be better than 90% of DPS sets

2pc 2pc

[barren drift]

cant you like

5pc lingering and the 3 cost be dmg%

[dense elbow]

no this boss is ATK set only

so you need to 2pc 2pc

ah wait i misunderstood sorry

the 3 costs you want to be dmg% if its an electro character

because mech does electro dmg

other chars youd most likely still want atk%

because your dmg is split between electro and whatever ur element is

5pc lingering works but idt its better

still waiting on some updated numbers

but yeah ill pin info on this once ppl are done

coz this is way too good to not recommend to people if so

[barren drift]

[sage wharf]

I got Jiyan weapon what you guys recommendation for the 5*weapon from standard? Usually I will go for crit weapon so It Is pistol or sword .. look like pistol has some buff passive for party 👀

[edgy cobalt]

depends on who you have and what characters you wanna invest into the future

but I do like the sword and gun because of their crit main stat

[ruby rune]

holy shit its 2 pulls!

[fickle kernel]

period

[rotund drum]

the tubes are nice at least

[dense elbow]

im not even guaranteed 2 golds?

fucking dogshit

[barren drift]

mfw i lost to encore on jiyans

but im happy

[ruby rune]

were you trying for jiyan?

[barren drift]

yuh

2 accounts lost

smh

[rotund drum]

i lost to lion fuccboi but that was fine cause i didnt actually want jiyan

then i lost the guarantee in the next 10

they probably rigged the rates on the starter banners to make people think the rates are better than they are

[cobalt cobalt]

Why did you keep pulling

[rotund drum]

i wanted danjin cons

[rotund drum]

now i have e1 jiyan and no danjins

[ruby rune]

e1

[rotund drum]

i think if you get a 5* it resets the 4* pity too

[torpid patio]

it does

I went 17 pulls between 4 stars around when I got Jiyan

[rotund drum]

there's no soft pity on 4* either i think

so its actually rigged

in favor of the 5*

[limpid forge]

if i reroll which 5 star should i get frist

verina and chalcaro?

[rotund drum]

encore and verina

if you want meta

[limpid forge]

aight

why are childrne meta

[rotund drum]

jianxin is ok too

[limpid forge]

oh yea i got this old guy w fast attack speed

[rotund drum]

hes just some old guy

[limpid forge]

real

[limpid forge]

shes kinda ass….

[rotund drum]

shes ok as long as you dont try to use her as main dps

she has decent aoes and zhongli shield

shes probably the only one who'll see any kind of use long-term tbh

at least until we get a better shielder

honestly none of the current chars are extremely good so just use whoever you want

[somber willow]

it's not that they aren't extremely good, it's that they're all on equal grounds

[rotund drum]

nah 90% of them are like generic field dps and the supports are all generally pretty tame

verina's like the best buffer atm despite being a healer just because she has a small damage amp on her outro skill

most of the other chars who have coordinated attacks and stuff barely do anything with them

yuanwu's is like 5% scaling lmao

you can tell they're trying to avoid a xianglinggate where the 4* just casts her ult and leaves while it piles on free damage

or xingqiugate where they literally had to release the exact same char but with a damage buff in order to justify her being a 5*

[fierce tinsel]

aint that Mortefi?

[burnt shoal]

i accidentally got jiyan will he stay meta

i was building pity

[edgy cobalt]

mortefi is basically xq

[barren drift]

yeah

mortef's s4 is mf 7s extend

17/20

3 second downtime is crazy

[burnt shoal]

mortefi that op?

i saw showcases of jiyan mortefi

[barren drift]

mortefi gives 38% heavy atk damage on outro

jiyan's ult are all heavy atk damage

[burnt shoal]

i like jiyan but like genshin gave me the mentality that on field dps = bad and off field dps = good

but jiyan aoe so big i kinda don't mind and think he op in some ways

i think on field dps will be more meta here in wuwa as long as theres more chars like verina for the 2nd or 3rd team

[ornate basalt]

I mean that's still not true in Genshin?

It's just that in late game, you can only have 1x2 on-field centric characters in abyss

As opposed to 3x2 off-field ones

So there's more demand for off-field DPSs / Supports to a certain degree, but I would argue that having two or so solid on-field carries is still not going to be a bad thing

[neat robin]

I need an ER heron with cr sub and I can get ~65/205 crit jiyan
I killed every cyan heron in my world today for only 1 er that was proper set

[small bronze]

is this effect passive? or only after use

[blissful tulip]

After use I believe, wording's just off

[small bronze]

damn the boss resistance is tough, i got only jiyan somehow built and the dmg reduction is crazy wont even try the second monkey gotta get calcharo

[blissful tulip]

Was not expecting to get DPS checked by Hologram

[rigid shore]

Git gud

[barren drift]

tbf the monkey is fucking tank

[waxen flare]

which towers easier

[barren drift]

right

resonant's 4th stage is a massive dps check

[waxen flare]

[kind turtle]

you can solo with encore though

[dense elbow]

CN apparently putting her on par with jiyan

which im not opposed to that thinking

[kind turtle]

i'd believe it

[dense elbow]

wherever she scores up against jiyan, i think she gaps every other character in the game easily

my top 3 rn would probably be jiyan, encore, havoc mc

[lament shuttle]

I doubt this

[kind turtle]

yeah

i also love encore because she has range

[dense elbow]

we've also found ways to swap cancel inferno rider easier

[kind turtle]

it makes the holograms way easier

[dense elbow]

so you can get like

800% MV in less than a second i think it was? lol

[kind turtle]

that's pretty good lmao

[dense elbow]

very good xD

makes inferno rider useful

it says a lot when calcharo is liking 5pc ATK with the mech boss about on par with tempest lmfao

just coz mech is so good

iirc 2pc2pc on jiyan with mech boss was only 5% ish worse too than monkey which is hillarious

[kind turtle]

[dense elbow]

like 1 frame instant drone strike xD

IVE HAD 3 OF THESE NOW

STOP IT

[kind turtle]

😭

[dense elbow]

AND I HAVE THIS SHIT TOO

[kind turtle]

i'm currently trying dif4 holograms and encore made heron pretty easy

[lament shuttle]

How do you cancel it

[kind turtle]

not having to be in every enemies face helps a lot for timing

[lament shuttle]

Cuz don’t you need all 3 hits for the atk buff

[dense elbow]

swap out after inputting left click for the 3rd hit

[lament shuttle]

Ah

[blissful tulip]

God the Aix is buggy

[dense elbow]

like i knew it was possible

[blissful tulip]

And such an inconsistent boss too

[dense elbow]

i didnt know it was that useful tho lol

[blissful tulip]

Managed to beat the Ape at dif4 at least

[kind turtle]

i use that tech for my dreamless runs lmao

[dense elbow]

now its basically only glacio that doesnt have a good echo

[kind turtle]

intro skill verina for quicker healing

[dense elbow]

[kind turtle]

i managed to get aix to that

[dense elbow]

damn nicege

[kind turtle]

honestly using ult on encore feels like a bad decision on holograms

it locks your anims so hard

[dense elbow]

this game is so stupid

[kind turtle]

lmaoo

[dense elbow]

my encore stuck on 4/3/1/1/1

coz i cant even get an ATK% 3 cost

😭

[lament shuttle]

You should co op and farm all wolves

I had those off set pieces but 2 daysx later I got the on set ones

[dense elbow]

i mean im juts farming for an hour today and then got some work to do

ive been putting off my uni essay coz of work lol

if i can even call wuwa research work

i technically can

[hollow gorge]

5 aero monkey or 2Aero2ATK monkey?

[dense elbow]

5 aero monkey still

the 2pc2pc was with mech abomination

still go for monkey on him

just atk set stuff isnt too bad as an option for chars

and its flexible

[hollow gorge]

I have a very good gold ATK piece, so I think about going for 2x Aero 2x ATK

[dense elbow]

ahhh ok sorry

it was 5pc atk with mech that was about 5% worse than 5pc aero with monkey

2pcp2c with mech was like 10% worse than 5pc aero

[lament shuttle]

Calchero ?

[hollow gorge]

I might as well go for 5 pc atk, since it is more universal, I can swap between different DDs. This piece is pretty solid for early game imo, for versatility

[lament shuttle]

What will yinlin want do you think

[dense elbow]

jiyan

[lament shuttle]

This set is trash

[dense elbow]

thats literally the opposite of what ive just been saying

[lament shuttle]

The 5 effect sucks tho

[dense elbow]

have you seen the mech abomination??

[dense elbow]

60% outro dmg hello???

[lament shuttle]

No I haven’t

[dense elbow]

with a 1 frame instant nuke from mech

that also has slight CC

and is considered outro dmg

[lament shuttle]

So who wants it

[dense elbow]

pretty much any glacio dps rn because their stuff is dogshit and its a pretty viable option if u want something universal

iirc it was on par with 5pc electro for calcharo too? lol

[lament shuttle]

Like in the encore team

[dense elbow]

?

[lament shuttle]

Sanhua would still want heron no?

[dense elbow]

sanhua much prefers heron

[kind turtle]

FUCK

[hollow gorge]

Cixia probably, she has big outro

[dense elbow]

coz it buffs encore

[dense elbow]

it looks pretty gud on chixia imo but waiting on some updated numbers

[barren drift]

have u used food

[kind turtle]

no

[lament shuttle]

Food is op

[barren drift]

use food

[kind turtle]

i'm not a fooder

[lament shuttle]

There’s +20% crit rate food

[barren drift]

will def clear

[lament shuttle]

lol

[dense elbow]

food cheating

😔

[kind turtle]

i'm not a fooder

i can do it

[barren drift]

smh

[lament shuttle]

So only liyang or wtv his name is ?

Who else is glacio

[dense elbow]

kinda just lingyang

[barren drift]

lingy

[dense elbow]

but its not a bad option when you can share gear like this

the mechs active skill is just stupid lol

[lament shuttle]

Do you cancel it or

Just send it

[dense elbow]

you dont need to

its instant

instant fkn drone strike

[lament shuttle]

I’ll try tonight

[dense elbow]

ah prydwen updated their numbers nice lol

https://www.prydwen.gg/wuthering-waves/characters/jiyan

like every alternative option on jiyan here

is mech

[waxen flare]

@dense elbow so.

[dense elbow]

same on encore half of them are mech

[waxen flare]

[dense elbow]

[dense elbow]

this mf

grats

[waxen flare]

this is ass wdym

[dense elbow]

[waxen flare]

i was rolling for danjin

and got jumped by an early 5*

surely i can afford yinling and changliu

@dense elbow wtf do i do for the 3rd team when i have only 2 healers

[hollow gorge]

also monkey is jank on a slope. I had AoE miss a bunch of times on enemies like a meter below

[dense elbow]

you use an originite bot

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1jW421A71u/?buvid=XY7F44B78DB3F17CDFCD50280EA44B324B2E2&from_spmid=main.space-contribution.0.0&is_story_h5=false&mid=vdpskhxBQJVY2wbgNEZAXA%3D%3D&p=1&plat_id=114&share_from=ugc&share_medium=android&share_plat=android&share_session_id=6a4b8e60-0ebd-4387-8a22-e2ccf8698eae&share_source=COPY&share_tag=s_i&spmid=united.player-video-detail.0.0&timestamp=1716992963&unique_k=nrVE7YM&up_id=23212135&vd_source=65df6d0f01ccc616c82ba75d8e399fbd

@kind turtle

[barren drift]

spectro rover monkaS

[dense elbow]

not worth over not having havoc mc imo lol

yangyange exists

[barren drift]

yangyang has proc heals too?

[waxen flare]

do i just play yangyang

[kind turtle]

holy

and only the active character takes damage right?

[dense elbow]

with originite sword yes

[dense elbow]

yup xD

[kind turtle]

better than zzz

i need that cancel holy

[hollow gorge]

pretty sure on Jiyan you would get superior damage simply by having better 2x2x pieces than if you tried farming 5x pieces. I am definitely not minmaxing 5x sets in this game, not malding that

[waxen flare]

is sanhua more useful for havoc mc + danjin or for encore

[dense elbow]

i was an advocate for swap cancelling shit in cbt2 but after the outro change ppl started discounting it

however

people still pushing it to its limits and looks more useful than most deepens to me

[dense elbow]

better with encore imo

idk y youd use sanhua there rly unless u wanna shit out energy

[lament shuttle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1235026456501948456/1245384078828769352/image.png?ex=66588dce&is=66573c4e&hm=1768854a97a4a22cd4523e469ad5cf2d69e047c492b12a93e7f13032a9a813ea& any idea what this means

[waxen flare]

who tf do i use as 3rd slot then yangyang?

[dense elbow]

it means toshi lied about havoc mc burst buffing multiple dreamless

but doesnt make dreamless spam bad just not as good as we wanted it to be

[waxen flare]

i was lied to then

[barren drift]

[waxen flare]

[kind turtle]

the lieing chain

[lament shuttle]

So would Danjin run not dreamless

[waxen flare]

this means it worked before tho

fuck u leifraud

[dense elbow]

no she always runs dreamless

[waxen flare]

i did not lie.

[dense elbow]

its still broken as fuck

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/encore-wuwa-encore-shiny-encore-please-shiny-hunt-gif-17571263137784461872

[waxen flare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630553822036623370/1243577809780080690/ak_ww240524.gif

sure leirfraud

[dense elbow]

i hate wolves

[waxen flare]

wtf am i looking at

[dense elbow]

a rotation lol

altho idr the names of skills

[waxen flare]

wait hows mortefi for havoc mc + danjin

[barren drift]

better off for jiyan

[dense elbow]

hes alright

doesnt get as many procs as id like

but

[waxen flare]

well its either him or yang^2

[dense elbow]

i mean if u want energy and turtle buffing

yangyang

[barren drift]

are u alrd building ur 3rd team?

[dense elbow]

lmao

[hollow gorge]

Btw, are we going to get tuners from game events? With this small trickle of tuners, developing echo sets would be a nightmare

[kind turtle]

wtf

LETS GOOOOOOO

[waxen flare]

No

I just mean in general

[dense elbow]

youre japanese?

[barren drift]

ho wmany secs left

[kind turtle]

no 😭

[dense elbow]

[kind turtle]

my printer software was in japanese a couple weeks ago

i've got jp as a language option

but not my main one

[barren drift]

what

thats fast?

[kind turtle]

it was also extremely scuffed 😭

[barren drift]

is that 3rd or 4th

[kind turtle]

4th

[barren drift]

dawg

[kind turtle]

honestly i might run it back with a less scuffed run

[lament shuttle]

Is ur sanhua built

[kind turtle]

no

[lament shuttle]

Just encore

[kind turtle]

she's an outro bot, and even then i dont get many outros

i only have her for moonlit heron

[kind turtle]

yeah

[rotund drum]

is there any use for low-level tuners

[barren drift]

nop

xdxd

[rotund drum]

can i craft them into high-level ones or are they literally useless once you get 5* echoes

[barren drift]

yeah they need to add an option to turn low level into high

[rotund drum]

guess ill just hoard them in case they do

[barren drift]

what we're needing is friggin echo exps

I think we can get plenty of them at late stages

[rotund drum]

yeah if i could tune 4* echoes for free i could at least put them on my backup chars

[barren drift]

but the midgame this way is damn scarce

[rotund drum]

but i'd have to waste a bunch of xp mats on it

[fickle kernel]

wait @dense elbow is lingering+mech BiS for onfield encore now

[dense elbow]

inferno should be better still

[fickle kernel]

it still doesnt seem worth it over inferno to me

ok

[dense elbow]

but 5pc and mech should be close

https://www.prydwen.gg/wuthering-waves/characters/encore

yeah about 6% difference

[fickle kernel]

everyone talking about lingering tech but i dont see any use cases

[dense elbow]

its called the mech active skill being fucking op

lmfao

[lament shuttle]

Main appeal is echo sharing

Which is valid

[dense elbow]

mech just cuts field time down by so much

and is a nuke and a half

[fickle kernel]

so who are you slamming it on

subdps?

[dense elbow]

anyone if you want a universal set that isnt much worse than the best option

calcharo im pretty sure prefers it rn lol

chixia should prefer it

yeah only 2% behind on havoc rover too lol

[fickle kernel]

oh the 60% outro dmg works even without stacking?

[dense elbow]

like

just scroll thru char build comparisons on prydwen lol

pretty much all of them have at least 1 mech mention

[dense elbow]

yes lol

[fickle kernel]

i think its only good on calcharo if you dont swap cancel anymore

[dense elbow]

it was better if you dont swap cancel

[waxen flare]

i thought he swaps a lot

[dense elbow]

it was on par if you do

but not swap cancelling cal is a death sentence

[kind turtle]

wtf did you get scared or something? look at the boss

[dense elbow]

so even being on par is great

[fickle kernel]

no one is balancing this game

its worse than TFT

so glad pryd finally took jiyan's weapon off BiS for calc

[dense elbow]

funny enough

they nerfed the mech just as we found out about it lol

20s CD but the desc says 15s

still amazing but

diesofcringe

[fickle kernel]

did pgr get balance changes ever

like did shit get nerfed in that game

[dense elbow]

no clue

ik stuff got buffed

[fickle kernel]

maybe they just buff the more niche sets then cuz having a generalist set be on par with them is crazy

[dense elbow]

tbf the nerf doesnt change much lol

but

[oak copper]

isn't echo strength also in part predicated on talent levels being low rn?

[fickle kernel]

do u know how much ER calc wants now cuz prydwynn is still saying 5-15 but i feel like he wants more

[ornate basalt]

No

They Leaped (retrofitted if that's what you're more familiar with) several units, but they didn't really tweak numbers post-release in my memory

[tawdry sapphire]

that panic mouse movement tho

[kind turtle]

😭

[barren drift]

me when someone plays asu no yozora shoukaihan

[blissful tulip]

Wow

[graceful jetty]

hitbox moment

[blissful tulip]

It's the fact that he does the grounded attack in the air as well

I'm surprised Aix is as buggy as he is

[kind turtle]

honestly

i've never had those bugs

lmao

[kind turtle]

this is the only bug i've had

[lament shuttle]

Ok I get the

Mech tech now

[blissful tulip]

I've had the camera bug (prior to fix), the hitbox bug, the "in air" bug, the delayed hit bug that ends up killing your characters if they are at low hp when parrying the thing

[lament shuttle]

Saves you 3-5 echoes between your 2-3 main dpses

[blissful tulip]

As well as the consecutive dodge bug

[lament shuttle]

Aka the crit one and both one costs

[blissful tulip]

Specifically against the attack where he summons feathers three times

[hollow gorge]

yep, great stuff in early game when resources are scarce

[fickle kernel]

did they only nerf the cd

the aoe and dmg is same?

[rotund drum]

damn what are these limited banner rates

e1 fuccboi and e1 jiyan

0 danjins

i may have to swipe

[blissful tulip]

Finally

[lament shuttle]

@dense elbow do you know why they use mephis at the ends? Is his buff not worth having ?

[dense elbow]

field time aint worth it id assume

[lament shuttle]

Yeah but can’t they just swap early ? Instead

And get the buff for the rest of the rotation

[dense elbow]

then you loose deepen if ur rot has it

this rot assumes no swaps but tells you when to swap

its probably due to other buff uptimes like turtle as well tbf

iirc thundering has better buffs but just isnt worth using

coz its slow as balls

there was some convo on the buffs just not being enuf vs other stuff too but idr specifics

[lament shuttle]

Yeah but encore has rider early

So it’s not turtle buff idt

[kind turtle]

i just parried with encore's outro field...

[dense elbow]

😭

also

turns out mech wasnt stealth nerfed

the CD change was put in on live and they forgot to update the text

the changes they put in was just updating the text to reflect the actual CD

[neat robin]

Idk if I wanna work towards the 5* sword for rover or pistol for my c6 morte

Sword would be smarter isnt it

[wraith steeple]

C6!?!!?

bro

@neat robin hand it over

[neat robin]

hes stuck with 3* pistol rn though

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-that-shit-need-that-thing-that-shit-give-it-to-me-insisting-gif-14361111

[neat robin]

There we go
Just need 3 more boss skins

[fickle kernel]

so they didnt actually shadownerf the mech

lmfao

peoples reactions to everything kuro does are so over the top

[small bronze]

we need a new version but im too lazy

also anyone knows if the echo abilities, example monke works if i just click it and instatly switch to my character without dealing the dmg and the long swinging?

to get the heavy attack dmg

[kind turtle]

@dense elbow

[dense elbow]

Hm?

2 star turtle in the tutorial area is a fixed spawn

[kind turtle]

oh

why

[dense elbow]

You want to do the dmg with monkey anyways but it can be swap cancelled yeah, idr if effects like this stay but i believe they do. Regardless swap cancelling monkey ends up better atm

[dense elbow]

Ig they intend for you to get it but ik so many ppl who didnt xD

Weird fixed spawn

[kind turtle]

😭

i did get it in the tutorial though

[dense elbow]

Maybe a 2nd or it always respawns? Lmfao

[fickle kernel]

wait they changed it so you lose deepen if you swap off?

calchuro so scuffed its insane

[dense elbow]

They changed this from cbt2 to live

Read rhe outro descs

Stuff like verina is teanwide tho so thats fine

[fickle kernel]

well

guess yinlin i also skip

[fickle kernel]

calchuro getting benched soon

[blissful tulip]

Thank god I invested in Danjin

[dense elbow]

But yeah calcharo got giga fucked by the new combat directoe

💀

[fickle kernel]

who made that awful design choice idgi

[dense elbow]

He still has some interesting stuff

But

Damn

[fickle kernel]

swapping the best part of this game and now ur punished for it

pleek

[dense elbow]

Funny enuf despite the issues QS still looks like rhe way to go

If ur team has a lot of swap cancellable abilities

The dmg output is just ridiculous

[fickle kernel]

QS?

[dense elbow]

And so incredibly safe

Quickswap

[fickle kernel]

i thought quickswap was like typically the early game meta

wasnt it the same in genshin

[dense elbow]

I sent a video here earlier of calcharo danjin encore shit looks insane

[dense elbow]

Its not rly comparable to genshin

Coz genshin doesnt let you start an attack and immediately swap off it

Letting you get all the dmg from at attack for free, whilst invulnerable, whilst attacking on another char

If ur able to keep swapping and always have some ability ready

Youre golden

[fickle kernel]

i wonder how long kuro allows that to be optimal

cuz it seems awful for the mobile experience

but maybe im just used 2 mhy

[dense elbow]

Idk they literally designed calcharo

And gave yinlin electro and liberation deepen

Its like in cbt2 they had the perfect idea for high skill ceiling gameplay and then shat on it

[fickle kernel]

ya the deepen change is rly cringe

maybe theyll backtrack that

copium

[blissful tulip]

It's not too bad speaking from experience

Just needs practice

[dense elbow]

Idt they will its written in all descs "until the charavter swaps out"

[blissful tulip]

Calcharo's a bit more painful, though

[fickle kernel]

unless they just make better units who dont say "until the character swaps out"

and thats a future selling point

ToT

[dense elbow]

Eh im fine with that if the buff is generally smaller

Verina is already 15% all type

XD

Raw 1.15x increase to all dmg

Yinlin already has a higher total deepen grant than others

Limited chars doing teamwide 20% elemental deepen makes sense to me

Vs the 1.0 chars

[fickle kernel]

i suppose theres a chance yinlin is teamwide or is it already datamined that shes not

[hollow citrus]

So...this happened.

[rotund drum]

looks like my danjin rolls

[hollow citrus]

I really wanna play Calcharo already, but I don't have a 4*(+) broadsword yet

[rotund drum]

just get the free one

[hollow citrus]

I redeemed a sword by mistake

[rotund drum]

get the other free one

there's two

[hollow citrus]

I know there's one more I can buy

[rotund drum]

i also tried to redeem for gauntlets and got the sword instead

its probably bugged

[hollow citrus]

Haven't gotten to that thing just yet

[rotund drum]

i put in a report hoping kuso will give apologems

i dont really care that much actually but apologems would be nice

[hollow citrus]

I'm trying to get Jiyan's signature and...I'm 5 pulls away from guarantee

Guaranteed 50/50, I mean

[blissful tulip]

Signature has no 50/50, 100% guaranteed

[hollow citrus]

Nah, I consciously chose the sword, because I didn't care enough to read that broadsword is a separate weapon class

[hollow citrus]

Oh, cool

[hollow gorge]

what's the difference between Deepen and DMG% buff? Because if there is none, then all Deepen buffers might eventually be replaced by RES debuffers, since you can get DMG% buff from Echoes, but not RES debuff

[hollow citrus]

I even have a team for Cal already, albeit kinda unfinished just yet (need to grind resources).

But I use 4* girlies for now and they do fine.

Chixia is the goat with her outro skill.

[kind turtle]

Deepen is an external multiplier, so 20% Deepen multiplies all your damage by 1.2x

[hollow gorge]

ok, that sounds good enough

[small bronze]

which free swords?

[hollow gorge]

you get one 4* weapon box, and you can exchange the other one in the Mine I think

[neat robin]

Theres one in the mine & one in main city by the forge or something

Or craftable ones wtvr

[dense elbow]

They're just different multipliers

[keen jackal]

if i dont crit again on ult ill give a million dollars to anyone im gonna cry

[small bronze]

2 locations down

[hollow citrus]

The one from the pre-reg bonus box

I also didn't get a single 4* broadsword from the weapon banner, so there's that