・wuwa-lounge

[blissful tulip]

He's a sponge in hologram and abyss

[lament shuttle]

feel like hes got like 70% DR

or something

[blissful tulip]

I'll try it with my second team

[barren drift]

and he teleports and shit

[analog cliff]

There's a wuwa lounge?

[blissful tulip]

Honestly they already have all the foundations needed for Genshin's difficulty in the abyss

[analog cliff]

how long has it been here?

[blissful tulip]

Enemies fucking around doing their own shit

[blissful tulip]

Around a day

[barren drift]

also dreamless echo is so easy to farm

just kill, out the domain, and come back

[lament shuttle]

dreamless is for what

[barren drift]

havoc

[blissful tulip]

Specifically Havoc MC benefits from dreamless

[lament shuttle]

Havoc mc wroth investing in ?

cuz you need to lvl the talents again

[barren drift]

I like the havoc mc so far

I might use her in a long run

[blissful tulip]

I'd say so, you never know when MC could end up being meta in the future
Although it's tough if you have Danjin

They're a much safer choice

[barren drift]

[blissful tulip]

I'll grind for a crit rate main stat Dreamless

And they should start doing great damage

Already does 14k nukes with his liberation

[barren drift]

yeah I desperately need a crit rate weapon

[blissful tulip]

Where else can you get their sequences besides the statue of the seven equivalent?

[barren drift]

idk either

u can get the spectro up to 4

[blissful tulip]

Think it'll take us around a month to get to UL45

[charred steppe]

Do genshin and wuthering waves has the same soft pity system?

[somber willow]

wuthering's pity is lower

[charred steppe]

Sooo like what's their soft pity?

[lament shuttle]

prob around 70 out of 80 but we wont know

[charred steppe]

Hm, alright

Which one is better Lingyang or Calchero?

[lament shuttle]

2nd

[charred steppe]

Calchero

[lament shuttle]

mhm

[charred steppe]

I honestly don't know where to farm "artifacts"

Where do I start?

[lament shuttle]

get llv 30 union 15 data bank first

[barren drift]

65

i think

[somber willow]

tbh I don't think that matters much in wuthering
combat's so insanely expanded that any char can win fights atp

[somber willow]

just kill enemies

[blissful tulip]

Eh, damage is damage

Even holograms turn into dps checks at some point

[somber willow]

I'm legit scared of doing too much damage because I love having to dodge and parry to do more damage
and ik doing too much damage will make that stuff basically useless

[blissful tulip]

It's realistically only applicable in the overworld

In higher stages of adversity and the hologram stages, you'll have fun on both sides

That is it though unfortunately

[somber willow]

genshin and hsr the whole thing is to do as much damage as possible since that's all there is to combat
but wuthering's combat? gimme more of that elden ring vibe please

[tired zodiac]

I got three 3 star electro birb cost 3 with glacio damage only

Is that a bug

The problem is only on the havoc ones

[somber willow]

nope

not a bug

[bronze fjord]

whyre all the bug fixes actually fucking up my game even more?

thats actually kind of crazy-

[somber willow]

meh

it's just framerate issues

not a big deal

[bronze fjord]

no my game crashed 4 times today

which is ironic cause day 1 it didnt crash at all

[somber willow]

oh wtf

that's weird

[bronze fjord]

yeah idk what going on

[naive basin]

extremely low quality wuwa

UE4 game so you can use the scalibility groups and engine commands to adjust the game's graphics beyond what you can access in game

[teal sparrow]

@dense elbow

Undying Flame or Novaburst for Chixia ?

[oak copper]

rerolls are now a few minutes faster with the added dialogue skips, neat

[fierce tinsel]

I mean, do we really need to reroll?

actually nvm

prolly Jiyan

[dense elbow]

its not needed

but

[neat robin]

For starter 5* ig too

[dense elbow]

its pretty feasible to get all 5 stars rerolling

lmfao

coz ur guaranteed 3

[fierce tinsel]

wait

3?

1 for the select starter?

[dense elbow]

random from beginner banner
guaranteed choice from selector
guaranteed choice from choice banner

and they now have a lot more rewards for free off the start than before

[neat robin]

Oh from all the comp mail?

[fierce tinsel]

wait

choice banner is seperate from beginner?

[neat robin]

I dont reroll
But my luck (every 5* early) calcharo from random starter, calcharo - jiyan - lingyang from limited

[dense elbow]

yup

completely different

[teal sparrow]

NVM I chose undying flame. no bs condition

[neat robin]

Yeah theres the random 5* within 50
Then you can pick a standard 5* as guaranteed within 80

[fierce tinsel]

so I can get Lingyang Verina guaranteed?

[dense elbow]

yup

[neat robin]

Yeah we get a choice 5* ticket in mail tomorrow

[graceful jetty]

since prolly everyone wants verina best case while rerolling is getting early jiyan and verina from starter then choose whatever you want from the selectors

[dense elbow]

as well as a 3rd random 5 star

[vapid river]

^

[fierce tinsel]

btw

[dense elbow]

if its one of those two then

pog

[fierce tinsel]

I heard they buffed Lingyang

what kind of buffs were they?

only numbers?

[dense elbow]

eh

numbers werent touched much

[neat robin]

I honestly havent used my lingyang…

[vapid river]

once they make it so we can skip story rerolling will be so much nicer

[dense elbow]

the buffs were the fact they fixed his hitboxes and make him a lot smoother to play

[graceful jetty]

qol then?

[fierce tinsel]

so what kind of buff Lingyang received? QOL

[graceful jetty]

neato

[fierce tinsel]

[vapid river]

in case you want jiyan+sig

[graceful jetty]

I do want him

[dense elbow]

they actually made him playable lol

didnt fix the damage

so hes still behind by quite a bit vs other 5 stars

[fierce tinsel]

so his problem was aerial hitbox?

[wraith steeple]

ty

[dense elbow]

but he actually plays nicely tho

[graceful jetty]

damage is overrated

just git gud

(let me cope)

[dense elbow]

yes as well as having a massive self hitbox for no reason

so he got hit extremely easily

[oak copper]

That for one and just grabbing Jiyan or a limited guarantee via a reroll to start with is jsut hella efficient

[graceful jetty]

every character I like in games turns out to be low-mid tier

[fierce tinsel]

I dont really like Jiyan that much

[graceful jetty]

i'm still rerolling btw

i have lost count of the accounts

[fierce tinsel]

tho I can prolly hyperbuff Lingyang with Verina and Sanhua right?

[graceful jetty]

ig im just unlucky

there's a 22% of getting him with 30 pulls each reroll

[dense elbow]

thats his best team rn yeah

[graceful jetty]

77% of getting him in 7 rerolls

[neat robin]

I got random calcharo in 2 multis
And this has been my luck so far lol
Have to manually keep track

[graceful jetty]

6*

aware

[fierce tinsel]

btw, how are ER reqs?

from what I've heard

only Mortefi needs them

[dense elbow]

they arent like genshin

[neat robin]

I have verina (temp on the 4* healer) on 150 er and mort at like 120

[dense elbow]

ehhhhhhhhh

jiyan has the highest er reqs rn at 150

coz he doesnt wanna use his skill during ult

everyone else iirc was like 130 or lower

most chars barely need any

encore for example doesnt need any, at most 1 roll

if u have yangyang outro active on a char, it lowers ER by like 30% ish

just with jiyan replacing mortefi with yangyang loses way too much dmg

so he just goes for the ER in subs

[neat robin]

Ik its early but its not been a huge issue using jiyan morte with only 120
But yeah. Still early, I have blue & purple echos still

My jiyan is allergic to cr, i only have the one main stat, no cr subs yet

[fierce tinsel]

Morte's actually juiced? or is it because he's more or less the only one who literally has 0 field time so you just comfy swap between 2 chars?

[dense elbow]

hes fucking ridiculous imo

pretty much 0 field time

and insane dmg to top it off

massive heavy dmg deepen buff too

[fierce tinsel]

well, that was the sentiment on like the first beta

[dense elbow]

insane pairing with jiyan

[neat robin]

I was hella lucky got r6 morte

[dense elbow]

s4 increases ult by 7s too is busted

[fierce tinsel]

I didnt know it persisted to this day

[dense elbow]

if you had to give a "national team" for this game

itd be danjin/mortefi/flex healer

[fierce tinsel]

I'm guessing Danjin is the Hu Tao for WW

[dense elbow]

thats one way to put her

but its just the top performing 4 star team

[restive pivot]

which standard should i pick? Alr have verina

[neat robin]

Danjin is the havoc sword girl?

[fierce tinsel]

btw

[dense elbow]

generally youd put verina in that last slot coz u get 3 5 stars anyways lol

[fierce tinsel]

I heard that they kept the swap cancel tech

(mainly useful for Anke)

[dense elbow]

pins has some advice on that

[fierce tinsel]

since you can cancel her long ass charge with a char swap

[dense elbow]

swap cancels is in the game but they removed outros persisting on swap cancels

[restive pivot]

ic mb

[dense elbow]

thats what they removed

[dense elbow]

all gud

[fierce tinsel]

ah

so they havent removed the mechanic itself

[dense elbow]

and outro buffs tend to be fucking massive so for a lot of chars they just prefer to stick onfield

[dense elbow]

not at all

lemme link a clip i recorded before the servers went up rq

actually

i can just link you IWTL video on it

explains it very well

[fierce tinsel]

sure

[neat robin]

Ah
Is there an archive thing like genshin has for characters n stuff too?
Not just the data bank for echos

[dense elbow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JihA0v5fp3s

[dense elbow]

in game idts? but we have wuthering.wiki in pins

[dense elbow]

we were talking in dms about swap cancel stuff quite a bit

theres a lot of potential there imo for future kits

[oak copper]

imagine if people find ways to just play 3 hypercarries in a team because they can swap just so perfectly for everyone to do stupid amounts of damage

[fierce tinsel]

thanks

so more or less

unlike genshin

characters with long ass animation times

[charred steppe]

This is crazy [Aero] Has color=HighlightB>increased RES </color> to Aero DMG

[fierce tinsel]

are actually just as useful

[dense elbow]

id love that ngl xD yinlin calcharo already does that very similarly but replacing verina for a carry is gonna be tough

[fierce tinsel]

since you can just swap cancel and the animation finish itself

[dense elbow]

theres also attacks with extra timed attacks

like encore E and rover forte E

where you gotta press the button again for an additional hit

[neat robin]

I have 3 weeks to build jiyan and morte
So I can then build calcharo yinlin later

[dense elbow]

which currently both of these can persist off field and be swapped back to for the extra hit

which is very very fun 🔥

[fierce tinsel]

quite excited to try it out

tho a shame that I only have 1 day off rn cuz shift changes

[wraith steeple]

i wanna do this!!!!

[abstract edge]

theres also that one character that has her eyes while acting like sparkle

100% pulling her

[fierce tinsel]

is Chixia still brken AF?

[abstract edge]

i see flower pupils i pull

[dense elbow]

Nice thing is intros stop time so if you do them before executing the attack youre swap cancelling its a free intro, otherwise it replaces the attack thats out

[abstract edge]

cus hu tao >>>>

[dense elbow]

If by broken you mean kinda shit then yeah

😭

[fierce tinsel]

she had like

the biggest MV's back in the beta

[dense elbow]

Idk in cbt2 and live shes never looked great

Cbt1 may have been different

[graceful jetty]

oh they changed the skip button

i dont like it

[frozen wadi]

Who should I snag for my Permanant 5* compensation? I have Varina and Calchero.

[graceful jetty]

i do like that you can skip many more things while rerolling tho

[rustic hemlock]

same

[rustic hemlock]

id prob go Encore but really doesnt matter much imo

[teal sparrow]

Wait a minute how does one increase spector / havoc MC constellation, is it through story

[frozen wadi]

You're the second person to reccomend her so it shall be.

[neat robin]

Story and collecting the gold cube things

[rustic hemlock]

i would assume so cuz they would hand it out for free

or prob buy it in a shop somewhere

[neat robin]

Ive got spectre one at r2 from story and another after offering the cubes

[fierce tinsel]

what is dmg deepend again?

is it just your run of the mill dmg bonus?

[teal sparrow]

2 from story, 1 from cubes, that would make the highest possible c3

[neat robin]

For me rn. I’m only on ch1 act5

[teal sparrow]

I'm curious what will be the other four elements gameplay for MC

But that's in a distant future... why do I get a feeling the overall narrative will be 4 years or so

[neat robin]

You get a MCspectre waveband at lv5 & 8 from offering the cubes

So prob the other 4 come from storyline

[graceful jetty]

hey I got an early finally

but its not jiyan

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-lois-laughing-urmumsbasement-gif-23753050

[fierce tinsel]

deserved

[slate haven]

u can gaurentee yinlin 🙂

[neat robin]

Early game is focusing on leveling char weapon & talents as far as they can go, isnt it?
Like I can collect purple echos just from killing things but no focus on farming them until gold ones drop

[dense elbow]

anyone know if this quest is timelocked as in irl time?

[blissful tulip]

It is, I got it yesterday and I had to wait until the next reset

Works identically to Inazuma's WQ

[dense elbow]

diesofcringe gimme the exp

ty tho

gimme

😭

[blissful tulip]

UL31 at the moment

Going to be a long path to UL40

2k union exp per day is just not enough

[dense elbow]

still 29 cri#

[blissful tulip]

Think it'll take us 3-4 weeks

[dense elbow]

only got these quests left

not sure where other world quests are if theyre out there

some just randomly show up on the map halfway across away

[blissful tulip]

Done with all mine besides a few I've likely missed

[dense elbow]

so idk if ive got em all?

[blissful tulip]

All I have left is exploration and the oculi

My data bank is LV 18, reached its peak until UL40

[dense elbow]

mfw 2 of the side quests here dont even give union exp

😭

[blissful tulip]

Going to try beating the second abyss half with Yuanwu, Verina and Danjin
Although I am getting Sanhua tomorrow

[dense elbow]

yeah sanhuas going straight in over rover with encore

[blissful tulip]

Think I'll use her over Danjin, mainly just for a more comfortable clear

But knowing Tempest mephis I think I may be making a mistake

I'll get Jianxin from the selector for cc

Yangyang's CC feels bad to play with

[dense elbow]

she has cons that improve it

but jianxins is stronger iirc

CC isnt that useful later on in tower tho

coz its just bosses

yeah some just

show on the map like this

idk if all are meant to?

this one doesnt give exp...

[bronze fjord]

holy i basically no-lifed this game

data base lvl 20

oh wait im not

i still have to find the STUPID TRAFFIC LIGHT MONSTER

[dense elbow]

@blissful tulip u know how to get past this mf?

[blissful tulip]

Haven't done it yet

[dense elbow]

fairs

i need to find more quests

😭

im still 1120 off

[bronze fjord]

what level are you? :0

[dense elbow]

think i found it BUT ITS ANOTHER QUEST THAT DOESNT GIVE EXP

AAAAAAAAAAA

[dense elbow]

stuck at 29

😭

[bronze fjord]

😭

[dense elbow]

they have to lead to questlines that do give exp

right????

[blissful tulip]

If worst comes to worst, you could wait until tomorrow or use some fragile resin

[dense elbow]

no

[blissful tulip]

Fair enough

[dense elbow]

i said i wanted it tonight

im getting it tonight

resets in like 3hrs tho

😭

[blissful tulip]

You can do it oomf

Exploring gives a good amount tbf

Chests give 30 and they stack up relatively quickly

[dense elbow]

the issue is finding thigns

[bronze fjord]

also what does the enhanced drop rate - remaining chances 0/15 mean?

[dense elbow]

5ft 11 vs 6ft

[teal sparrow]

Why not just explore

[dense elbow]

coz i could just go an hour getting jack shit

[teal sparrow]

Or is it like... harder to find chests than exploring in genshin

[dense elbow]

15 times a week bosses have a higher echo drop chance

helps farming them

[teal sparrow]

I did feel like the chests are too scattered around apart

[bronze fjord]

ooooh ok

[neat robin]

The traffic light miniboss?

[dense elbow]

dont mind if i do

[bronze fjord]

the litte ones

[bronze fjord]

yeah ive farmed them all in my world

[neat robin]

NA?

[bronze fjord]

yeah

[neat robin]

Could come take mine

[blissful tulip]

Neat

Wonder how hard the floors 9-12 are

[neat robin]

I have no idea what I want to farm rn all my chars feel like shit since its so early

[bronze fjord]

oh damb already?

[vapid river]

@dense elbow 23 minutes on a reroll

[bronze fjord]

ah its fine im actually a few creeps from 20

[blissful tulip]

Whale's playground holy shit

[bronze fjord]

[vapid river]

the one i said was lower the other day was off by 10 minutes

it was 31 minutes

not 21

[dense elbow]

yeah i was gonna say xD

[blissful tulip]

But whales only get an extra 100 astrite per cycle

So it's not too bad

[dense elbow]

i was on stream with ppl actively rerolling

[teal sparrow]

Sorry to spam this as i swear i said it before but

[dense elbow]

and they were like "no fucking way thats right"

xD

[teal sparrow]

ngl might drop wuwa after a day or two anyhow

[vapid river]

still crazy they cut out like 8 minutes worth of story

[dense elbow]

not complaining

[neat robin]

Is it 3 or 4 cost that can have energy main stat?

[dense elbow]

let the rerollers do their thing

[blissful tulip]

People are not going to 24* ToA this patch

[dense elbow]

3 cost iirc

[vapid river]

started at 5:50 on the dot typing in my name from the main menu

[dense elbow]

ik someone who already has...

[vapid river]

to 6:13 pulling for the first time

[dense elbow]

ah wait the 3rd tower

[bronze fjord]

are the first couple of levels easy?

[dense elbow]

theyre high up there

but not 24 star

idt

[teal sparrow]

Next step: skip Blade's dialogue

[vapid river]

fuck you michele

[blissful tulip]

I'd say so, I'll check if I can clear floor 1 in 3*

[dense elbow]

thought u included the 1st floor before that lol

[teal sparrow]

Bahahaha

I think that might be my new joke

1 AM brain momenr

[vapid river]

skip X's dialogue

[teal sparrow]

Genshin could have a skip button ig for those who cba

[blissful tulip]

Yes, the first floor is very easy

[dense elbow]

so

ive been cooking a bit

[bronze fjord]

oh i meant the floors before that one

[dense elbow]

i think i have the next tech to add onto swap cancelling

but i need to grab sanhua in 3 hours to double check if my theory works

[blissful tulip]

The main roadblocks are 1-2 and 1-4, which have the bears and thundering mephis respectively

1-2 is a genuine skill check similar to the concentrated beasts

1-4 is a pure dps check

[neat robin]

I already have r1 sanhua

[dense elbow]

seen ppl saying intros are just bad for swap cancel stuff

however

if it works like i think it does

[kind turtle]

wtf

[dense elbow]

that should be wrong

[dense elbow]

weekly boss?

[kind turtle]

no

[dense elbow]

theyre 3 times a week

[kind turtle]

overworld

[dense elbow]

which one?

[kind turtle]

enemies...

[dense elbow]

?

just normal enemies??

[kind turtle]

i killed an ice rock

[vapid river]

if it's an enemy that you can get rwards from

it's a boss

[kind turtle]

hang on let me crop

[vapid river]

there's a cube

or something

you're trying to get stuff rom right?

[kind turtle]

it was an ice rock enemy

[vapid river]

or floaty thing of light

[kind turtle]

wait is it corrupted

😭

i killed this.

im echo farming

and that came up

[vapid river]

weird

probably just a bug

[dense elbow]

no clue

[neat robin]

Are you guys leveling purple echos or just leaving them except like. CR / ER mains

[kind turtle]

it happened again

it happened on a spectro rock just after, but i still got an echo

[blissful tulip]

I am leveling up some, but I like to clear content early, definitely not optimal

[dense elbow]

been doing more than fine with just ATK% stuff and 5pc set bonus

[vapid river]

no clue

might just be a bug?

[kind turtle]

i think its a daily farming cap

is my best guess

[dense elbow]

inventory?

could b that

and just their shit wording

[neat robin]

Ok I’m just trying to get proper main stats on the 5pc sets

[dense elbow]

crit at +0 isnt worth it imo

[vapid river]

make sure you can get 5* echoes

[dense elbow]

too low values to do anything

[vapid river]

4* echoes only give you 4 subs, 3* 3 subs, etc

5* gives you the most

being 5 subs

[neat robin]

Is sanhua the er set? As I’m collecting for morte

[dense elbow]

moonlit clouds yeah

[neat robin]

I need to farm more to collect gold echos. Only have one gold traffic light and ofc it went def main

[dense elbow]

believe thats what most run on her

and impermanenance heron active

[vapid river]

it's the only recommended build on prydwen

[dense elbow]

damn im good then

xD

[dense elbow]

she needs barely any ER too

like

[vapid river]

cdmg/cr on 4 cost, glacio dmg on 3 cost, atk% on 1 cost

[dense elbow]

10-20% ish iirc depending on the team

these mainstats are like

assuming good rolls tho

[vapid river]

ye, just get the crafted weapon

[neat robin]

I have scale slasher sword rn

[dense elbow]

early on just stacking atk and dmg% is better than crit if u arent levelling stuff

[vapid river]

i think that one gives er

[dense elbow]

er weapons kinda scam ngl

😔

weapon substat is a lot of stats

[vapid river]

true

and ig early game

you don't really need er

[dense elbow]

yup

[vapid river]

it's nice

if you had it

[teal sparrow]

it's like ER is useless

...

[neat robin]

I need a good blade for cal

[teal sparrow]

for now

[vapid river]

but it's kinda pointless till end game

or at least till you can get 5* echoes

once you can get 5* echoes then everything else starts to matter

[neat robin]

Ik its a 4* echo but naturally this heron I got morte is cr main and +10 gets both cr and cdmg subs

Meanwhile jiyan is here with 10:180 crit

[dense elbow]

this random world quest

is so long for 0 exp

my god

[kind turtle]

yeah my best echo is my verina's heron

[neat robin]

Crit verina too?

[vapid river]

verina wants atk%

[kind turtle]

cant really say its crit verina lmao

that's just what it rolled

[dense elbow]

ok

these quests do give EXP

they just dont say

😭

[somber willow]

crit rate WITH crit rate???

[dense elbow]

weird

[kind turtle]

yeah the XP amounts are broken hugely

[dense elbow]

mainstat doesnt lock out substats

[vapid river]

subs can roll one of the 13 stats

[somber willow]

crazy

wuwa is getting better by the second

[teal sparrow]

70% crit, 300% crit dmg

[vapid river]

but yeah, verina just wants healing bonus or atk%

she doesn't heal more on crits

afaik

she heals more based on atk%

[neat robin]

I have healing, er and atk

[vapid river]

rather

% of her atk

[kind turtle]

my encore currently

[dense elbow]

yeah theres no crit healing

just atk

funny enuf if u wanna build verina for damage

[vapid river]

yeah i'm saying her 4 cost should be healing% or atk% main stat

[dense elbow]

its one of the havoc echoes

its just enuf MV that its worth it in terms of damage

[vapid river]

and should be bellborne

[kind turtle]

impermanence heron?

[vapid river]

no bellborne verina

[kind turtle]

i've got heron 4p moonlit

[vapid river]

the giant ass turtle with the bell on their back

there is no 4p

you need 5p

[kind turtle]

but she still has green echoes

5p i mean

[dense elbow]

i think so id have to ask about it

[teal sparrow]

Verina has 1 thing going for hee

her

Pretty name

Same with encore

[kind turtle]

i'm excited to claim my c1 encore in 2h

[neat robin]

I have heron on morte

[vapid river]

stocked have you spent any money on wuwa?

just curious

[kind turtle]

no

[vapid river]

nice

[neat robin]

Bellborne on verina

[kind turtle]

i dont plan to in this state

currently UL31, DB18 w/ enough XP for 19

but its locked until UL40

[teal sparrow]

Ngl i think getting to UL 40 is gonna be much easier after 1'3 or smth

Nww map or smth

The jump is a bit...

[dense elbow]

i mean we've been playing for 4 days

not even

cant rly ask for everything instantly

[teal sparrow]

Im still ul 5.....

Almost 6

[kind turtle]

yeah the game has barely released

[dense elbow]

just enjoy ur time then

[neat robin]

I’m ul 27 basically only from exploring

[teal sparrow]

Then again i got ar 55 in genshin in sumeru release

🥱

[neat robin]

I have not been doing quests lol

[teal sparrow]

Whats ur explore prpgress

50%?

[kind turtle]

i know of 5 quests i havent done, but im doing my echoes rn

[neat robin]

38%

[vapid river]

i was there before inazuma 🥱

[dense elbow]

gotta be higher in some area than that

[vapid river]

but i may or may not have spent actual money to refresh resin

[dense elbow]

38% is nothing

[vapid river]

[neat robin]

Idk uh

[teal sparrow]

is there still much to explore

[dense elbow]

my jinzhou is 64% for example but aix mire only 43%

[teal sparrow]

Oh god

[neat robin]

Yeah theres tons left

Idk where I’m collecting so much xp from

[kind turtle]

highest tiger's maw 74%
lowest norfall barrens 26%

[dense elbow]

30 more cubes to find

[neat robin]

Completing all dailies gives quite a bit

[dense elbow]

🙏

[teal sparrow]

Natlan gonba be fjn

I gota sleep though starting to feel tired

[neat robin]

Did anyone end up getting a gold cyan heron in that web event? I’m still trying to collect one

[dense elbow]

halfway overall

🙏

[vapid river]

try the discord

the official one

[dense elbow]

^^

[vapid river]

oh

it's capped

[dense elbow]

just search up the echo name in the channel

[vapid river]

if you're not already in it

[dense elbow]

😭

[vapid river]

[dense elbow]

nvm then

[neat robin]

I’m not

[vapid river]

oh yeah

i'm not gonna get bopped

am i

[dense elbow]

for what?

links?

[vapid river]

i tried sending the wuwa official server here

[dense elbow]

ah u cant send discord links here

dms

[vapid river]

wack

[dense elbow]

bot autodeletes

[neat robin]

I’m only at 31% overall

[vapid river]

i mean, that makes sense

ninjy can i dm you?

an invite to the wuwa server

it's been capped but they might have raised it by now

[neat robin]

Sure

[kind turtle]

ok so how do you get to those cubes

[dense elbow]

where on the map r u?

idk if i got that lol

[outer jetty]

Grapple up from higher point then glide?

[kind turtle]

there's also one on top of the Jinzhou tower

[dense elbow]

nothing up there for me

[kind turtle]

the highest local surface is also unclimbable

[kind turtle]

yeah you have claimed it

[dense elbow]

my ass cant think of how lol

[neat robin]

195 data bank xp to start collecting gold echoes yay

I ran into the lv120 bear… got my ass whooped

Need to learn its attacks ig its just hard to time the dodge counters

[outer jetty]

Zhongli level shield when

[kind turtle]

oh sweet

[dense elbow]

perfect

the swap tech addition i wanted to add does work how i thought it does

intro skills are no longer bad for swap cancel teams

[vapid river]

how so?

[dense elbow]

they freeze time around you

like ultimates do

but the swap timer still ticks down

[vapid river]

does the potential buff timer tick down then?

[dense elbow]

so assuming we got more timed attacks in the future that were less than a second we could still swap out and get back to them for the extra hit

[vapid river]

like from verina

[dense elbow]

im not sure on stuff like that

[vapid river]

oooooh

[dense elbow]

but my assumption is no

[vapid river]

you mean like in cal

where you can ult

get your 5 hits

[dense elbow]

because boss vibration strength doesnt tick down when frozen

[vapid river]

and get an extra

[dense elbow]

the main example im thinking of right now

is sanhua forte heavy > intro skill > sanhua forte heavy

[vapid river]

OH

[dense elbow]

its not an extra atk like encore or rover skill

but theoretically

[vapid river]

you mean canceling her own

to do it again

[dense elbow]

she should be able to get two forte heavy attacks

without any downtime

[vapid river]

yeah

[dense elbow]

same as if you never swapped off her

[vapid river]

[dense elbow]

just with a free intro skill in between

[vapid river]

you can't do that with cal

if you were wondering

if you e then swap

the timer starts

and you have to wait it out

[dense elbow]

yeah his E doesnt work that way sadly

his heavy attack does tho

[vapid river]

i had hoped it did

i mean, why wouldn't it?

[dense elbow]

and his heavy atk is already frequently cancelled

[vapid river]

you're just cancelling the animation

right?

[dense elbow]

no youre swapping so the hit still goes through from off field

whilst you do things on another char

[vapid river]

the input and damage should get processed by the game

oh yeah

i thought that was normal though?

[dense elbow]

not all attacks do it

[vapid river]

everyone's HA works like that no?

[dense elbow]

most longer animations do

[outer jetty]

Is it me or echoes description is less detailed now?

[vapid river]

not all attacks

but all HA

or am i crazy?

[dense elbow]

its not consistent

[vapid river]

true, but you can do it

afaik

[dense elbow]

theres not a simple answer of "all these abilities do it"

in the scenario of calcs HA

they do

[outer jetty]

Oh just the front page

[dense elbow]

and he wants to do that often

but im talking about shorter animations

not longer ones

thats where the timer stalling is good

coz when the game freezes from intro skill or ult

everything freezes

the enemy

your swapped off teammates

etc

except

the swap cd timer

[vapid river]

oh yeah

when it's normal attacks

or even verina's e

it just doesn't work

they just get sent off field

[dense elbow]

verinas E is short enough that it doesnt matter

[vapid river]

ye but if you spam swap before the animation is finished it doesn't happen, no?

[dense elbow]

i mean

i got it out pretty quickly before

this clip

[kind turtle]

i pressed E and swap at the same time and i got the E off

it was intro skill

[dense elbow]

this isnt what i was trying to talk about earlier

but

what i was talking earlier is taking this clip to the next level

[vapid river]

okay so then what skills wouldn't let them stay on field as you swap?

[dense elbow]

as i said

it depends

some skills u could be halfway thru the animation

and it doesnt stick around

others u can cancel immediately and theyll stay the whole time

[vapid river]

so it's a game issue?

[dense elbow]

its not an issue

its just an it depends

[kind turtle]

inconsistency

[vapid river]

that sounds like bad design

so you're saying the same move

[dense elbow]

like some echoes for example

[vapid river]

has a chance to either finish

[dense elbow]

the monkey can be swap cancelled

[vapid river]

or get cut short

[dense elbow]

but if u swap at the wrong time

he disappears

[dense elbow]

?

thats not what i was trying to say originally at all

but we're past that ig

[vapid river]

he disappears is the animation getting cut short

no ik

i'm asking

b/c i'm trying to understand fully

[dense elbow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JihA0v5fp3s&t=1s

the basics of it

[vapid river]

you're saying there are times where the gorilla animation will go till completion and other times where, if cancelled at the wrong time, will just get cut short?

[dense elbow]

yeah

ive had it quite a bit in my gameplay

coz its 2 hits

[vapid river]

okay then that just sounds like bad design, no?

as in that shouldn't happen

[dense elbow]

[vapid river]

and there should be something the devs can do to fix it

maybe?

[dense elbow]

idt they will personally

its just a learning curve imo

[vapid river]

basically they're okay with you being punished if you don't hit the skill check

ig i can get down with that

as long as it's something intended

[neat robin]

Id imagine its supposed to be like that. Since its combat with dodges counters parries etc

[vapid river]

and not just a bug

[dense elbow]

its mainly summon echoes that that happens with

most of them u just

cant swap cancel

coz they require extra inputs

and its really weird to time

but maybe rewinding can help that

need to test

[vapid river]

[neat robin]

Yk what one of my only complaints is

The camera sens is way too slow

[dense elbow]

yeah its fucked

[neat robin]

Its awful

[dense elbow]

apparently its better on 120fps

[neat robin]

Yeah I’m not exploding my ipad for that

[dense elbow]

😭

[kind turtle]

i think the sens is fine on my pc at least

[dense elbow]

i wonder if you can do inferno rider 1st hit > intro skill > inferno rider 2nd hit
since it has a rly strict/weird swap cancel position and wont do the next hit without player input

[vapid river]

oh yeah lux sent me that video

i might have to check it out

[neat robin]

I went back to genshin and like. A 90d turn on wuwa is like a full 360 on gi

[dense elbow]

i have it maxed out and its still fucked, and for some reason going into the flying bug challenges makes it go hyperspeed almost like its supposed to be

[vapid river]

can you even swap back and still be in inferno rider?

[neat robin]

And I have all my sens at 100 on wuwa

[dense elbow]

should be able to

[vapid river]

i would assume it'd just cancel

[dense elbow]

you can swap cancel each hit individually if given the right timing

[neat robin]

Thisss god those flight challenges are so rough

[vapid river]

is that server based

or client?

[dense elbow]

wym

[vapid river]

if i'm reliant on ping for these i might have to make an NA account

the swapping

is it client sided

[dense elbow]

ah

[vapid river]

or server

[dense elbow]

yeah swapping is server sided

fully server

[vapid river]

well fuck me ig

no way i'm hitting cancels on cal

with 200 ms

though i'll still try

[neat robin]

I have to swipe halfway across my screen to turn 90 degrees at 100sens

[vapid river]

guess i'll reroll for na

[dense elbow]

cals heavies are 2.2s long

you have plenty of time

[vapid river]

true

[dense elbow]

im talking some really strict timings here

[vapid river]

yeah

inferno rider is like

fisrt attack

1.2 seconds later second atk

or some shit

maybe a bit longer

1.6

you'd have to record

and have a stopwatch/timer going

or count frames

and maybe even account for ms

b/c if it's server sided doing the cancels at 80ms vs 200ms are going to be different

[waxen flare]

Any knowers where this is

[dense elbow]

https://streamable.com/38b83l

can see how the game freezes except the swap timer (and clear timer but irrelevant) here

which lets me do the intro skill for free

when without intro i wouldve just done rover forte skill > encore skill > rover forte extra > encore skill extra

free util

[proud pier]

tmr we get a free standard chara right?

[wheat moon]

in ab 1h11m

[proud pier]

oh cool bet

and its any of them, right?

[wheat moon]

ye choose 1 of the 5

[proud pier]

tysm!

[wheat moon]

[blissful tulip]

I am genuinely amazed at how Kuro managed to replicate all of the issues of the spiral abyss

Spread out enemies, mechanics to waste time

[wanton jolt]

And ppl insist kuro was not intending to make a Genshin look alike /hj

[blissful tulip]

Clearing 3-2 was very satisfying, but god was it a huge pain

Jiyan's half also felt very "shilly"

Enemies that are very easy to knock back and as such, are easily grabbable by Jiyan's ult form

[proud pier]

sadly i think i gotta wait another day ;-;

[wheat moon]

ah what

is it server sided?

[proud pier]

yeah i tink so

[wheat moon]

aw

[wheat moon]

check back in an hour

[proud pier]

i hate dodging but i think i have a skill diff LMAO

im used to i-frames

[wheat moon]

cuz it's 05/26 09:09 atm

[proud pier]

im NA ;-;

its 5/25 here !!

[wheat moon]

aH

okay

o7

my bad

[proud pier]

all good!

no harm now foul :3

do u have any tips on dodging fr tho ,,, im on pc and i just keep doing it right before they hit me so i get hit still LMAO

[wheat moon]

for that I'd just dedicate some time on actually dodging when they strike and practice on certain enemies that you find difficult

take it slow and dissect it

[wanton jolt]

You'd win?

Sorry the brainrot is too strong sometimes

[wheat moon]

😭

[proud pier]

hm?

[kind turtle]

the event does have its time in UTC+8

so it should be same time globally, as its not set on server time

[proud pier]

ohhh okok !!!

tysm !

[kind turtle]

[proud pier]

sorry im not usually dumb but new games do that to me

[spare falcon]

Bros giving me a high five ✋

[wraith steeple]

@dense elbow yinlin is bussin for calchero how?

just so I understand

[dense elbow]

stronk dmg, good outro skill buff for him, altho main reason is coz shes able to do her shit over time in short bursts

which fits perfectly with calcharos long heavies

so you swap cancel cals heavy attacks and attack on yinlin till theyre done

[wraith steeple]

wait you can cancel his heavys?

[dense elbow]

yeah

if u initiate a heavy atk

then swap out

the heavy attacks till goes through from off field

its a 2.2s animation aint no one sitting onfield for that

[wraith steeple]

that's the slash from above or sumn else?

[dense elbow]

when you hold left click once his forte bar is full

idr specific anims i dont have him

[wraith steeple]

ohhhhhh

does buff his dmg specifically or no?

she buff*

[dense elbow]

swapping out on his heavies is not only safer but also just stronger

the outro skill isnt massively important coz u remove it almost instantly

but when its active its nice

he doesnt rly need her for buffs he needs her to fill field time whilst swapping off him

so hes dealing dmg whilst yinlins attacking

and yinlins dot deals dmg whilst cal attacks

youre essentially playing 2 chars at the same time

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1pZ421h7vG/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=4a6db527260c74a10490b94828296e02

from cbt2

but showcases how this pairing plays

[proud pier]

i do like that u can just basically farm artis from bosses

and they respawn fast

:D

i wish i would stop getting claymores tho stg

like okay

[kind turtle]

yeah i keep picking them up and hoping its a sword

but no

its never a sword

[proud pier]

this is just from pulls

u can get them overworld?

or by picking them up do u mean like
keep getting them /genq

[kind turtle]

there's at least 1 4* wep in overworld

that is a claymore

[dense elbow]

theres a def% broadsword from a quest

lmfao

[kind turtle]

yeah you can find that one as well at the top of the sea of flames buildings

[proud pier]

cost 4 is the highest rarity right

[dense elbow]

rank 5

costs arent rarity

[proud pier]

oh that makes more sense ty

so therell probably be more substats with higher rarities right

[dense elbow]

at data bank 15 you unlock 5 star echoes

[proud pier]

i see i see

and @ 8 ur get 4star

:D

[kind turtle]

all echoes start with 2 stats, but each rarity increase gives it +5 levels and another possible substat

[proud pier]

and with that, since theres no like ,,, specific place for an echo to go
does that mean u can stack havoc/glacio/etc stats?

[kind turtle]

yeah

[proud pier]

damn ok

[kind turtle]

most characters will have 4/3/3/1/1 in costs

which is CRIT/dmg%/dmg%/atk/atk

[dense elbow]

pretty much all of them will coz ur fkd up by 5pc

[kind turtle]

😭

[dense elbow]

some chars prefer dmg%/atk% for their 3 costs

and others want energy% at times instead too

[kind turtle]

btw 2nd substat is entirely random between hp and atk right?

or is it echo dependant

[dense elbow]

echo dependant to my knowledge

its fixed based on cost iirc

if u mean the 2nd mainstat

substats are pure random

[kind turtle]

oh wait yeah all of the 1 costs are hp secondary

[dense elbow]

mhm

[proud pier]

wdym by this?

[dense elbow]

even though you can equip up to 12 cost, the only way to get 12 cost with 5 echoes is 4-3-3-1-1 formation

any other combo to get to 12 cost is 4 echoes or lower

so you lose out on your 5pc set bonus

[proud pier]

ohh

[waxen flare]

leifa

[dense elbow]

toshi

[proud pier]

thank you so much !!! yall are such a big help stg

[waxen flare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630553822036623370/1243577809780080690/ak_ww240524.gif

[kind turtle]

i can definitely say thats at least slightly better than my old one 😭