Modpack: STEAMPUNK mod: https://www.curseforge....

[modern pagoda]

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[whole stratus]

do you have a valid explanation of why it would be good in the pack besides you wanting to play w it

[bronze jungle]

I think as a modpack that has great potential to be a multiplayer experience with great cooperative interactions between friends in general. A mod like lootr would go a long way in minimizing some resources scarcity that larger groups of people that play this modpack would feel. I’ve experienced this in other modpacks when you have many people. Having all the chests looted forces others to have to go much further to find loot for them to get started. This kills the idealogy of exploration to some extent because then you’re not looking for new chests ur stuck looking for chests that arent already looted inherently wasting your time when you could be looting chests that actually have stuff in them.
So in all 2 main reasons:

• Resolving the issue of multiplayer resource scarcity
• Maintaining the sense of progression with persistently lootable chest so players are valued their exploration time at a greater scale.

[ripe marsh]

It also comes with the issues of worlds not being able to pregenned with Lootr, and also dungeons and structures that have already been explored previously are more or less just free loot with lootr chests

[bronze jungle]

I fail to see how dungeons that have already been explored being “free loot” if its a single player experience it makes no difference. If i go and explore a dungeon with my friend id say its earned that we both get chests especially if there is also some form of mob scaling implemented when there are more players.

We have to consider that if the loot for one chest is meant for 1 person and the server has 7 people

it creates needless resource scarcity especially if the players are playing cooperatively going and conquering and exploring structures and dungeons

[ripe marsh]

it is an issue in public servers especially

[bronze jungle]

I understand if there are technical limitations but most other modpacks that are can be server played have lootr or something similar

[ripe marsh]

not for private ones

[bronze jungle]

I have a group 17 people that play on rotation

[ripe marsh]

okay now imagine 9 people go into the dungeon, clear it out fairly; then the next batch of people come in and just loots the free lootr chestsz

[bronze jungle]

thats perfectly fine imo cause if its one chest ur effectively sharing between 9 people

Verses everyone getting equal resources

[whole stratus]

so its fair for the people who did not clear the dungeon to come in and take the loot from lootr chests

i don't think people especially on public severs would feel the same

[bronze jungle]

i think the sharing between 9 peoples pain far out weighs the value of having to explore more of the map by every one

i dont disagree with that unfairness

at the end of the day were here to have fun

how is one meant to track which ones are taken

[ripe marsh]

I dont disagree, but thats just how it is. You can add it on your end if you’d prefer to play with it

[bronze jungle]

Or discovered

[ripe marsh]

obstacles removed, like spawners or traps

or missing blocks

[bronze jungle]

yeah for sure but thats once one goes in there

[ripe marsh]

yeah

[bronze jungle]

Isnt that also a waste of time

How is that fair

im not arguing fairness btw

Im just wondering why its even a question of “balance”

its just a question of convenience

[ripe marsh]

there are other mods that help with that https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/respawning-structures-forge-fabric

[bronze jungle]

Is that in the modpack

[ripe marsh]

Like I said, you can have it. But its just not something that I want in the modpack, for the reasons I stated

[ripe marsh]

no

[bronze jungle]

My thing is because thete are so many people i have my priv setup with when things do get updated its quite tedious

[ripe marsh]

its server-sided, server owners can add it

[bronze jungle]

for EVERYONE to have to do this

going in manually and all that instead of just clicking update

[bronze jungle]

Thank you for this

Im also surprised how hard you guys are fighting this when most if not all big modpacks have this

[ripe marsh]

some launchers keep your client-sided mods when updating, and your just adding in one mod when your updating the server. Its just the cost of wanting to modify your modpack

[bronze jungle]

I also think modpack creators can learn by example of bigger packs and see how it helps the players who also want to have a fun equitable experience

I do agree with you though ive done that before

but its still tedious per person

[ripe marsh]

Just because other modpacks have it, does not mean we do.

[bronze jungle]

yeah i know thats why i said learning by example could be a useful

unless you disagree with that thought process

[ripe marsh]

We have it in some of our modpacks here as well

[bronze jungle]

exactly

wait now im even more surprised

Why not steampunk

[ripe marsh]

so just because another modpack has it, means SteamPunk should has it?

Wouldnt every modpack be the exact same if we went by that logic

[bronze jungle]

no every modpack has some form of emi/jei

I think this is something like that

[ripe marsh]

It was originally in SteamPunk during 1.19, it was removed for a reason.

[bronze jungle]

i think it integral like claims

[ripe marsh]

wow

but your also forgetting JEI is client sided

[bronze jungle]

am i wrong which big modpacks does nor have some form item scroller

[ripe marsh]

also client sided

qol

[bronze jungle]

Fair

Well i tried thanks for listening

[ripe marsh]

thanks for your suggestion

[bronze jungle]

Im going to use the 1.19 version

[tawdry hemlock]

I certainly do not have Emi or jei in my modpack.

[whole stratus]

they left alr bff