#Can't update Better MC4 due to externally added mods

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tepid pewter
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Better MC 4 - v37 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

  1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
  2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
  3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
  4. v37
  5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
  6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash-2025-03-24_04.00.59-client.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

71 added, 1 removed, 2 updated.
alpine compass
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update lazyyyy

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lmk if it persists

tepid pewter
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Uhhhh

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I can't get into the world and I have no idea what I'm doing lol

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I need help figuring this out, unfortunately

rigid heath
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were you able to load in

tepid pewter
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No

alpine compass
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update the mod called Lazyyy

tepid pewter
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Oh ok

alpine compass
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and let me know if the issue keeps happening

rigid heath
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i assumed lazzy just tainted crash reports and latest.log is where i should look

alpine compass
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it could be yeah, i think lazyyy is just obscuring the actual crash

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im gonna have them disabled it after

rigid heath
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because every crash report since v37 has that lazzy log

alpine compass
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oh

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i didnt see this lol

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net.minecraftforge.fml.ModLoadingException: Mod �eeverycomp�r only supports �3create�r �o6.0.0 or above�r
�7Currently, �3create�r�7 is �o0.5.1.j

alpine compass
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to the latest

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let me know if it works

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ty mimi

rigid heath
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np

tepid pewter
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You guys are awesome

rigid heath
# alpine compass ty mimi

also since you are here should i recommend removing does it tick to the people with mob spawn problems

tepid pewter
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Boutta launch it again

rigid heath
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i saw you recommend to someone yesterday but

alpine compass
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if it doesnt fix it then have them readd & send world file

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im still investigating it

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if you ever have any future questions you can dm, or if they dm you the world file you can dm it to me as well

rigid heath
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alr will let you know if i find something then

alpine compass
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ty

tepid pewter
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It crashed again

alpine compass
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new log

tepid pewter
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Better MC 4 - v37 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

  1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
  2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
  3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
  4. v37
  5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
  6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash-2025-03-24_04.09.16-client.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

72 added, 2 removed, 2 updated.
alpine compass
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disable lazyyy for now so we can get the crash report

tepid pewter
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Ok

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Better MC 4 - v37 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

  1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
  2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
  3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
  4. v37
  5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
  6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash-2025-03-24_04.13.30-client.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

71 added, 2 removed, 2 updated.
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I disabled it

alpine compass
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remove the particle effects mod

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seems it has a conflict with alexs caves

tepid pewter
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Gotcha

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Launching

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Better MC 4 - v37 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

  1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
  2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
  3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
  4. v37
  5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
  6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash-2025-03-24_04.16.10-client.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

71 added, 3 removed, 2 updated.
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It got further than any time before so something's happening

alpine compass
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try disabling Another Furniture

tepid pewter
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I might just get rid of it entirely if that doesn't hurt anything

alpine compass
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yeah

tepid pewter
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You did it!!!!

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Thank you so much!

alpine compass
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huge

tepid pewter
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You and Mimi are life savers

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W community fr

alpine compass
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@tepid pewter okay

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can you do smthn

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so

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it seems your install is messed up?

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because in your log

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it shows its loading another_furniture-forge-1.20.1-3.0.1.jar

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bmc4 is using 3.0.2

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which is what fixes the Create incompatibility

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!alternates can you try a fresh install of the modpack?

dire snowBOT
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If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

alpine compass
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let me know if it works now without removing anything

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this will also help as you'll be updating all of the mods that you added by reinstalling them all

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so i'd heavily suggest doing this

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keep me updated pls

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i was gonna report the two issues that were crashing your game with Create

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and i was about to dm the dev of Another Furniture

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but saw you're outdated

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despite v37 having that updated already

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so if you can do a fresh install to fix your broken download + reinstall everything you added one by one, it'll help both you and me a lot (and the modding community too :P)

tepid pewter
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Oh boy

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Ok

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I'll see what I can do

alpine compass
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ATLauncher's mod adding screen is a lot easier than curseforge imo

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and loads a lot faster

tepid pewter
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I got in if that helps at all

alpine compass
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yeah

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i'd imagine so

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its just preferrably you wouldnt need to remove anything

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and you wouldnt of had to if your install wasnt all weird

tepid pewter
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Gotcha

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Right

alpine compass
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theres potential that this could be an issue with something else, but by reinstalling verything you added that might help

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just tryna test this out here

tepid pewter
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Ok

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Duplicating the profile

rigid heath
alpine compass
alpine compass
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oh

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ohhhhhh

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okay

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that makes sense

tepid pewter
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Oh, uh

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Would that mean I have delete my current saves?

alpine compass
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okay well

alpine compass
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!alternates

dire snowBOT
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If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

alpine compass
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look at the bottom

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i think

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at the very least

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what you should do assassin

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if you dont wanna readd everything

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on a new launcher

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just enable content management in curseforge

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update all of the mods you added

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readd another furniture and update it

tepid pewter
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ok

alpine compass
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see if the game launches

tepid pewter
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Gotcha

alpine compass
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and then see if Particle Effects still crashes your game

tepid pewter
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I'm really new to all of this, I apologize lol

alpine compass
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will still make your game work better anyway bc you update mods

alpine compass
tepid pewter
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Am I updating only the packs I installed?

alpine compass
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yea

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only the things you added

tepid pewter
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Ok

alpine compass
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you can also update does it tick & lazyyy while you're at it

tepid pewter
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Also, I can't seem to find Particle effects

alpine compass
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uhh

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you'll need to

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readd it to your mods folder manually

tepid pewter
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Yeah

alpine compass
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just go to your recycling bin and restore it

tepid pewter
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Oh ok

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I had to go to a website to get it again

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Didn't know it was fabric lol

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But I got it

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Working on getting things updated rq

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Better MC 4 - v37 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

  1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
  2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
  3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
  4. v37
  5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
  6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash-2025-03-24_04.44.38-client.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

72 added, 2 removed, 3 updated.
alpine compass
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ok yeah

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just remove it again dw

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particle effects

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you updated mods right? the ones u added

tepid pewter
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I believe so

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Had 16 that could be updated after I updated mine

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Would you like a screenshot?

alpine compass
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nah dw

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i see what the issue is

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will dm the dev of particle effects & have it fixed

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thank you for testing!

tepid pewter
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Np lol

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Least I could do

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I'll try to keep up and update accordingly

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You and Mimi were a huge help

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Oh, one more thing for future issues

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Should I keep content management on for this unless there's a new update?

alpine compass
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yea when theres a new update you'll need to disable content management

tepid pewter
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I usually just keep it locked down and add mods via the mods folder in its files or through curseforge through installing directly into the modpack

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Ok, sounds good lol

tepid pewter
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I believe Another Furniture is still breaking the world

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I get stuck on the Loading Terrain screen and it never goes further

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I'm really hopeing I didn't just corrupt my world

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Oh, wait

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Lazyyyy needed updated Ig

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Lemme launch again rq

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Idk what's happening, it's not letting me in again

alpine compass
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logs?

tepid pewter
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It's not even crashing

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Just gets stuck on Loading Terrain

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Imma get rid of Another Furniture and try again

alpine compass
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its def not another furniture

tepid pewter
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Ok

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Better MC 4 - v37 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

  1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
  2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
  3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
  4. v37
  5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
  6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log head / tail (~34MB & ~338k lines) | crash_assistant_app.log | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

72 added, 3 removed, 3 updated.
alpine compass
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one of the mods you added is completely broken

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its spamming a command

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like

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a million times a second

tepid pewter
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Oh

alpine compass
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there are 338,000 lines of text

tepid pewter
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Oh my

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Uhhh

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Idk which one it is

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Or why it would even do that

alpine compass
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im gonna guess its Raxiores

tepid pewter
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Awe, man

alpine compass
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make a backup first

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and try without it

tepid pewter
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Ok

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It won't allow me to make a backup

alpine compass
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you just make a copy of your saves folder

tepid pewter
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Guess we're gonna risk it lol

alpine compass
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and put it on your desktop

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thats all

tepid pewter
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Ight

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Better MC 4 - v37 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

  1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
  2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
  3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
  4. v37
  5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
  6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash_assistant_app.log | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

71 added, 3 removed, 3 updated.
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Removed Raxiores

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Idk what's happening or what caused it

tepid pewter
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I just wanna play Minecraft, man sadcat4

alpine compass
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i'd recommend just removing the mods you updated one by one, sort your mods folder by date modified

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when you find the problematic one just downgrade it

tepid pewter
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Oh boy

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It shows that Faster Random is incompatible with the modloader

alpine compass
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ignore it

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its just bc the mod is added via connector

tepid pewter
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Ok

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So every Fabric mod will show that then?

alpine compass
tepid pewter
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Gotcha

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Working on trying to remember what I updated

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I know Oh the Biomes required an update

alpine compass
tepid pewter
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Oh

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That makes sense

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Still very broken lol

alpine compass
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wdym

tepid pewter
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Better MC 4 - v37 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

  1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
  2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
  3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
  4. v37
  5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
  6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash_assistant_app.log | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

71 added, 4 removed, 2 updated.
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Idk if this helps

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I reverted Does It Tick and Lazyyy

alpine compass
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yea its just one of the mods you added & then updated probably

tepid pewter
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I'm reverting Oh The Biomes rn

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I'm sorry there's still an issue

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Don't know what happened

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I reverted everything back and it's still not letting me in

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Oh, wait

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I'm sorry, I'm tired

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I'm forgetting what I changed lol

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Fixing it now

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I think it might be because I updated Cataclysms like an idiot

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Better MC 4 - v37 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

  1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
  2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
  3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
  4. v37
  5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
  6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash-2025-03-24_07.04.33-client.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

71 added, 4 removed, 1 updated.
alpine compass
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this ones just blaming iris but i doubt thats actually causing it

tepid pewter
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Lol

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How do you see that?

alpine compass
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at net.irisshaders.iris.shadows.ShadowRenderer.renderPlayerEntity(ShadowRenderer.java:672) ~[oculus-mc1.20.1-1.8.0.jar%23811!/:?] {re:mixin,re:classloading}
at net.irisshaders.iris.shadows.ShadowRenderer.renderShadows(ShadowRenderer.java:506) ~[oculus-mc1.20.1-1.8.0.jar%23811!/:?] {re:mixin,re:classloading}
at net.irisshaders.iris.pipeline.IrisRenderingPipeline.renderShadows(IrisRenderingPipeline.java:1012) ~[oculus-mc1.20.1-1.8.0.jar%23811!/:?] {re:classloading}

tepid pewter
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Ah

alpine compass
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i just doubt its actually the issue as iris/oculus are generally pretty invasive & get false-blamed a lot

tepid pewter
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When I looked at my shaders they showed everything besides 2 as being out dated

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Idk if that has anything to do with anything tho

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3 hours tryna fix this is kinda crazy

alpine compass
tepid pewter
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Mods are confusing for my small brain

alpine compass
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i think you just need to downgrade what you updated in batches of like 4-5

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and then narrow it down to what the problematic mod(s) are

tepid pewter
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I only updated like 4 mods

alpine compass
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thats how modpack dev just is lol, sometimes you get a crash or issue with 0 info

tepid pewter
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Yeah

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Right

alpine compass
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were you able to get into your world before updating the mods you added?

tepid pewter
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Yes

alpine compass
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then yeah just disable in batches till you find the issue

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then you can downgrade that one

tepid pewter
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Ye

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I'm sorry lol

alpine compass
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no dw

tepid pewter
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Completely avoidable issue

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What's the current version of Cataclysms in the Modpack rn?

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Weird thing is it's letting me into the menu screen but everytime I load up the save it crashes

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Maybe I messed up the folder by accident when I copied it?

alpine compass
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heres all of the mods in bmc4 with updates available

tepid pewter
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Maybe I pressed something I shouldn't?

alpine compass
tepid pewter
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Right

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Ok, I reverted/updated what I needed to and have the mods I downloaded reverted

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Let's see if this works

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When I updated BMC4 it didn't update a couple mods it seems

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A few I had to update

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Better MC 4 - v37 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

  1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
  2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
  3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
  4. v37
  5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
  6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash-2025-03-24_07.20.18-client.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

71 added, 4 removed, 5 updated.
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I just realized Lazyyy needed reverted one more time

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Lemme try again AAAAHHHHHH

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I'M IN!!!

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I had to disable Lazyyy and now I'm in

alpine compass
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interesting

tepid pewter
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I'm gonna try updating my mods again and see if the root issue is just Lazyyy

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Sound good?

alpine compass
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yeah

tepid pewter
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I'm realizing the only mod I added that requires an update is Oh The Biomes lol

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Also, question, what's the plan for the Pale Garden mod?

tepid pewter
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It's really buggy and doesn't work correctly

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Not to mention, I saw a few comments under the mod itself talking about how it slows chunk loading

alpine compass
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theres not really any alternatives for pale garden mods

tepid pewter
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Right

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I know the dev said something about completely restarting the mod itself because of "dependencies that are no longer being maintained"

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Just thought I'd mention it

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Alright, looks like Lazyyy was the main issue

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I'm gonna keep it installed but leave the mod disabled just in case I need ut somehow in the future

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Thank you so much for your help and patience

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You've taught me a lot here actually and I'd love to learn more

hearty bronze
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Are you reproducing it everytime?

tepid pewter
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In relation to Lazyyy?

alpine compass
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(SettingDust is the developer of Lazyyy)

hearty bronze
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ya

tepid pewter
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Oh, gotcha

hearty bronze
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five y

alpine compass
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oops :p

hearty bronze
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Like, can I reproduce with your seed?

tepid pewter
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Do you want me to send the seed to you?

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I'm sorry, Idk what you're asking sadcat4

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I'm new to this still

hearty bronze
tepid pewter
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Ok

alpine compass
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you should also probably go into Curseforge, click the 3 dots, click Share and give SettingDust your modpacks share code

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as you've added so many mods

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its likely one of the mods you added causing this

hearty bronze
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hm? there are the other mods?

alpine compass
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yeah

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he added 40 mods to bmc4 forge

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72 actually

hearty bronze
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I need to download CF launcher. I'm using PrismLauncher. Can you export a CF pack for me?

alpine compass
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^^ do that instead

hearty bronze
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And the seed of course

tepid pewter
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Uhhh

alpine compass
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1sec

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ill get a guide for you assassin

tepid pewter
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I'll send the entire pack

alpine compass
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3 dots

tepid pewter
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Ye

alpine compass
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and just select every folder, except Saves

tepid pewter
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I've exported the packs thank God lmao

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Working on exporting rn

hearty bronze
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BTW, you can still use lazyyyyy but disable the lazy entity render in the lazyyyyy config

tepid pewter
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Should I check every box to include everything in the file?

alpine compass
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yea

hearty bronze
alpine compass
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just not saves

tepid pewter
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Ok

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Or backups I assume

alpine compass
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yea

tepid pewter
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Ok

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Exporting

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Give it like 10 years

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Files are too powerful

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Oh, dear

alpine compass
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whats the size

tepid pewter
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2,040,108 KB ultimateconfusion

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I have a problem, I think

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Lemme export again, but not check so many boxes

alpine compass
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nah dw

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oh

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nvm

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uh

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when exporting

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open the dropdown box for "mods"

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do not export the .connector folder

tepid pewter
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Ok

hearty bronze
tepid pewter
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Lol

tepid pewter
alpine compass
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its ok

tepid pewter
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I just have .lazyyyyy, mods, and resourcepacks checked atm

alpine compass
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yea thats fine

tepid pewter
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And I have unchecked .connector

alpine compass
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actually im curious

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@hearty bronze should we export .lazyyy by default?

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would that help with load times

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like in the actual packs

hearty bronze
tepid pewter
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There's the seed

tepid pewter
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Hope that helps y'all out

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Keep me posted lol

alpine compass
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yeah, thanks so much!

tepid pewter
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I'm enjoying this thoroughly lmao

alpine compass
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i appreciate your cooperation a lot, you've helped us a bunch :p

tepid pewter
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np

alpine compass
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the developer of particle effects is looking into that one issue already

tepid pewter
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I love seeing the inner workings of things I enjoy

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Awesome!

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One mod to look forward to seeing on BMC4 eventually is definitely Ancient Nature

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I can see a ton of people adding it to the modpack

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I will be one of them

alpine compass
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i've seen it on twitter before yea

tepid pewter
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I'm in their discord rn and the dev's a really cool guy

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Hope it doesn't conflict with anything off rip so it's simple for everyone

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Anyway, I hope you all have a great day and I appreciate everyone that has spent time on my issues lol

alpine compass
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you too!

tepid pewter
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You're all amazing

hearty bronze
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How can I reproduce?

tepid pewter
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I'm sorry?

tepid pewter
hearty bronze
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Oh, just having it active messed up the game

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Makes it crash upon loading the world itself

hearty bronze
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reproduced. Crash with BSL shader(the only one I tested, I would assume any shader)

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it's randomly. hard to debug 😦

hearty bronze
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should be fixed in 0.8.9