#essential doesnt work

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hollow grove
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I am trying to play the better mc modpack on cruseforge with a friend w essential but it gives error

sand wyvern
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The Essential mod is completely incompatible with all of our modpacks, and there's no reason to use it. All of our modpacks already come with built-in, free world hosting, by clicking the "Share World' button in the Open to LAN menu. You can learn more by typing !ws in the ⁠#bots channel. You can also run type !server in the same channel to learn how to properly host a server for better performance and more flexibility. In modpacks that aren't owned by us, you can use mods such as e4mc or WorldHost to host a server completely for free without Essential's many issues and crashes and the microtransactions that they constantly bother users with. To learn more about alternatives to the Essential mod, check out this website.

hollow grove
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ty so much

gilded sphinx
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not entirely

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honestly I'm worried about being banned for this, but not allowing essential seems really weird to me. I'm not going to say how, but there is a way of using it.

sand wyvern
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we already have free world-sharing in the modpack

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why would we allow people to use a mod that has repeatedly corrupted peoples worlds & is full of shitty microtransactions

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lol

gilded sphinx
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I've never encountered problems with it, the mtx are 100 percent ignorable, and the world hosting has, in my experience, been 100 percent more stable and easier to work with than the included one

sand wyvern
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!server

magic elmBOT
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Paid Method

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Free Method

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gilded sphinx
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I get not offering support for it, and maybe including a "hey we dont support essential so if youre having problems then we cant help" message

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but the option to play the game when I installed it was removed

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it was literally gone

sand wyvern
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yes then people ignore it & bypass it and still get world corruption lmao

gilded sphinx
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used essential for several years, no world corruption

sand wyvern
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cool, that doesn't mean that others havent experienced it

gilded sphinx
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I'm going to speak freely and say it seems weird because, no offence intended, the built in world hosting is worse, and sometimes unavailable. paired with the fact that you guys have sponsored servers, it does come off wrong imo, especially with the lengths taken to stop users playing with it. I'm all for supporting you guys because the modpack is amazing and I love it, if theres a patreon I'd be all for supporting you guys

sand wyvern
gilded sphinx
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yeah that is bad

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but again, there are ways around it

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I dunno I guess I'm saying this cause I think that essential does a really good thing and I love how it plays with the modpack.

The mod having something that disables it and says "hey we dont support essential" makes sense

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but theres literally a dependancy coded into the jar files now

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so unless you edit that, you cant play with it

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it seems like a really far gone length

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im not trying to get on your asses though I know this comes off a bit.

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and like, I do get it im not saying theres 0 problems

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like seriously the modpack is fuckin awesome dude

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me and my friend have spent ages on ad astra alone lol, its all merged so well

sand wyvern
gilded sphinx
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Shit can't be easy.

sand wyvern
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it matters to me to be able to listen to issues people experience on my projects and be able to resolve them and build solutions that work long-term

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we have a mod being developed, for example, that provides a lot of idiotproofing to reduce user confusion + have a proper screen explaining why essential is incompatible

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with this in mind

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you can understand how it'd be difficult for me to tell people daily "your world is corrupted, your stuff is gone, and you won't be able to get it back because you wanted to play with your friends and didnt know the mod your favorite youtuber told you to use is poorly coded"

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thats why the warning was added

gilded sphinx
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I mean, I don't know if this is viable, but would it be possible to have a screen before the main menu, providing essential be detected, to contain a disclaimer that support is unavailable for issues? And to mention the monetary problems?

sand wyvern
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for a while, it was easily bypassable because the share world button on the main menu added by Essential was still there and ppl could still press it

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and then we'd still get those reports

gilded sphinx
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Kind of like a "by playing with this you understand we aren't responsible for your world's getting corrupted"

sand wyvern
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thats why i dont want it to be bypassable, because for a while it was and it still caused problems

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thats what we had already & ppl still joined the server and complained

gilded sphinx
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I mean, what I'm saying is reasonable but.. I'm not accounting for people who just tend not to read important things....

sand wyvern
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i'd rather deal with people confused about the warning than having ppl lose worlds they've spent hundreds of hours on

gilded sphinx
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Yeah

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I find cosmetica is a pretty good customisation mod

warm star
feral peak
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!ws