steampunk

[plain flower]

I just tried to enchant my pickaxe. I put it in the ability window and it said level 27 needed, then added the lapis and it updated to level 30

[little orbit]

hm thats wierd

[lofty warren]

hm

i know some enchantments are more expensive

[plain flower]

gonna try making a normal enchanting setup

[lofty warren]

but no clue about this

[little orbit]

and idk if its modded it probably is

[lofty warren]

i would have expected them to work together, since they are both from the same mod

[little orbit]

ok i found 2 embedded ammonite they seem to appear anywhere ocean related, you might have to dig or look around in the caverns

[lofty warren]

thanks!

i got the will of the sea so looking below water is super easy

[little orbit]

be careful of a mob named the thrasher it annoying to kill

[plain flower]

Ohh

If you do lapis first, then the item to enchant, it'll hold the level

Other way around doesn't work for some reason

[little orbit]

hmm probably a script error then

[lofty warren]

if you feel like it you can go to the mod github page and report it as an issue 😉

[little orbit]

this is where i found one btw

[spare walrus]

those fire breathing demons are also having that annoying sound issue where they dont seem to scale at all based on distance

[dire condor]

did a thing

[little orbit]

nice

[lofty warren]

hahaha i love it

music choice is also excellent 😄

[dire condor]

ty lol

[abstract star]

i need help

i cant find vehement ore

i need it for scorched guns mod

[lofty warren]

so in the old version of create my buddy had made a mining contraption/machine that he could ride and it would just clean out a large area one step at a time - put tracks in front, collect them at the back, etc

are trains similar idea or totally different

[abstract star]

similar but at the same time different

[lofty warren]

you need to have a preset track?

i read that you can set up schedule of some sort

[abstract star]

im not a user of trains or anything so i cant help sorry

[lofty warren]

that's ok, it was just general question

i'll check my storage if i have any of that ore

[lofty warren]

then i might know something

[abstract star]

i need to silk touch it too

[lofty warren]

you do?

[abstract star]

and i need 4 ore blocks per ingot

ik

[abstract star]

but it doesnt make the scorched ingots

[lofty warren]

but i mean

to make this you don't require special ore

you mean scorched bronze ingots?

[abstract star]

yes

i dont need the coal i need the ore block

[lofty warren]

check the crafting recipe

[abstract star]

i did

[lofty warren]

tin bronze + blaze dust

[abstract star]

what version u on?

[lofty warren]

3.5

[abstract star]

v3.5HF?

[lofty warren]

yes

[abstract star]

oh?

[lofty warren]

there are two entries in JEI

that's strange

[abstract star]

ok ima try reupdating

[lofty warren]

but there are two different entries for scorched bronze ingots

one has the crafting recipe

with crafting table

the other one just the mechanical press one

[abstract star]

oh that

that is the wrong one that is why

[abstract star]

those are for the old guns

ill see if they work

[lofty warren]

is the intent to have just the new one?

or is it that they forgot to consolidate the recipes

[abstract star]

the old is the Scorched Guns mod and the new is the Scorched Bronze Guns

idk

ill test

[lofty warren]

the ingots are named differently - i mean the item ID is different

[abstract star]

nope jei even shows i need the new one for the correct gun recipe

[abstract star]

u have subtitles on!!?!?

[lofty warren]

yep

always

cause i usually listen to other stuff while playing 😄

[abstract star]

same

[lofty warren]

and my sound isn't that good

[abstract star]

but i can multitask

and my hearing irl is super sensitive

i hear every thing all at once

even stuff normal people wouldnt be hearing

[lofty warren]

what gun are you trying to make?

[abstract star]

im trying to get to the new The Earth's Corpse

so i also need the new

[lofty warren]

I assume from the Scorched Bronze Guns

[abstract star]

yep

[lofty warren]

yeah i guess yo uwill need that press recipe then

but hey the materials needed for that block are not that difficult to make

or automate

[abstract star]

?

[lofty warren]

however the block of the coal... i am not sure if it is linking correctly from the non-bronze scorched mod to the bronze one

[glad heath]

A normal gun made of iron is good enough for me personally idr the name but it was like lm thing that uses heavy bullets (x32) u can kill normal mobs in one shot or heavy mobs in like 3-5 (without enchant)

[lofty warren]

cause it doesn't have recipe for making it in the bronze mod

i can test if you make the non-bronze one and put it in a mechanical press it will make the other thing

[abstract star]

well find me the name since that sounds great

wait the mag is 32?

[abstract star]

sure but jei says it goes to the other recipe but if u could that would be great

[glad heath]

Naw not the mag

[abstract star]

oh

[glad heath]

Like I. The craft block you get 32

[lofty warren]

i mean the block of coal has no recipe with the press in the non-bronze mod

[abstract star]

oh u meant that

sure go ahead

im hoping for success

btw we cant @ any staff rank correct?

[lofty warren]

oooh wait

there is no recipe to make the block of coal

[abstract star]

damn

[lofty warren]

the crafting recipe from coal piece to block of coal is missing

[glad heath]

Yes don't unless there's someone trying to spam fake discord or something serious

[abstract star]

k

[lofty warren]

i feel this is something worth opening an issue about

[abstract star]

can u help me with that then lol

not good with that kind of thing

[lofty warren]

the vehement coal block you need to craft this is missing crafting recipe right now

[abstract star]

wait a sec

omg

im so dumb

i didnt read thaty naem right until now

it isnt an ore block of that coal ore

it is just the block of that coal

XD

[lofty warren]

yep

but how do you make it

[abstract star]

still have the no recipe issue tho

[lofty warren]

exactly 😄

[worldly mesa]

is there a guide for the modpack?

[abstract star]

can u explain ur question in more depth plz?

[lofty warren]

there is ingame questbook with quite important information

[abstract star]

ya that is why im asking for a more indepth question from them lol

[lofty warren]

but otherwise the modpack is still being developed so not everything is settled

[abstract star]

casue there is that

ya

[worldly mesa]

like a doc or something

[abstract star]

ya no than

[worldly mesa]

i remember there was one for MMC

[abstract star]

it is very fairly new

[worldly mesa]

ah okay thanks anyway

[abstract star]

wait

[worldly mesa]

hm

[abstract star]

there is a doc for that one?

[worldly mesa]

i think

[abstract star]

damn wish i knew that

[worldly mesa]

look in the fabric one

[abstract star]

i would of kept playing it lol

ya the fabric one seems to have one

but i think i played forge

[worldly mesa]

the fabric one is really good

i played it pretty heavily and the guides help

[abstract star]

k

i'll try that later then

[glad heath]

Oh yea

Unlike other weapons

You can't smith guns together lol

So like the enchants can't combine if you try 2 guns in anvil

[lofty warren]

ok collecting create stuff from everywhere i saw it around the world in special structures is really paying off

i might be able to fill out most of the quest tree today 😄

so.. 21 mechanical crafters needed for the crushing wheels.. need x2 rpm SU .. so 42x rpm SU ..

[spare walrus]

hey, so im not very used to modern mc

whats a good height to tunnel at to find ancient debris

[slender kettle]

7-12 iirc

wait

is it even

[abstract star]

just use beds at y 13-15 in the nether

mine as far into the wat like 5-6 blocks then place bed in there and click it

fastest ancient debris farming

or my new method

find ancient battle grounds and kill enought ancient knights to get a soul crystal to work

makes sure to kill them with a soul steel sword with soul reaper 3 on it

since they are so are to find have that sword helps a ton for getting the souls every kill with that sword gives 5 souls

@spare walrus

[plain flower]

I wish the Improvable Skills abilities had keybind options

[abstract star]

ya

[plain flower]

Or at least a wheel to select from with a hotkey Dx

[little orbit]

there is also netherite in the big nether fotress at the bottom floor but you will have to deal with this tho

[lofty warren]

there is netherite in other places too, incl bastion chests

and the bastions here have a lot of chests (if you find the non-vanilla ones)

not all have netherite but there is a chance i think

[fiery viper]

for some reason when im trying to use the inventory mod to check for recepies when i type in a it clears anything else i typed in the search and i cant check recipies

ok now it works again

[lofty warren]

the inventory mod?

[fiery viper]

weird

jei i think its called

[lofty warren]

aha

[fiery viper]

but yeah nvm workin now

[little orbit]

keybind maybe idk

[lofty warren]

there is a button to synchronize your SSN crafting search bar with JEI

[fiery viper]

well either way time to automate everything wood can make

[little orbit]

yessirr

[spare walrus]

why does my soulspring lamp, the one given to me by one of the quests, not seem to ever drain its fuel bar

[lofty warren]

i am so happy that the IE alloy kiln is here so i can make brass without needing blaze burner 😄

[spare walrus]

its not letting me craft the obsidian hammer? its asking me to have a tier 6 hammer to make obsidian hammer heads

[little orbit]

you need to find a forge hammer

[glad heath]

Its just like that, you can't grow the soul sprout to get fuel it anyways

Yes that's one thing I don't like a lot

Hey you can make this hammer

[little orbit]

no

[glad heath]

The next tier your have to find an ancient hammer now

[little orbit]

an easy way to get find one is by....(give me a second)

get a villager to cartography lv 2 and if you are lucky it will sell a map

saying anciet ruin

[glad heath]

And like you'll never use it really?? Like after you craft obsdianl/netheirte hammer (which each needs FOUR INGOTS)

[little orbit]

i havent needed to use one atm so you are correct

[glad heath]

Also you could find the ruine

Ruins

[little orbit]

yup

[glad heath]

And literally anything but the hammer

So you'll have to find a different one

[little orbit]

yup

i was lucky enough for my first one to have one

[lofty warren]

i found a ruin but you need some tetra tools to open crates and break blocks

[glad heath]

It reminds me of like

[abstract star]

why cant i kill animals with Mechanical Saws or Mechanical Drills?

[lofty warren]

so i book marked it and will return there later

[glad heath]

The tinkers beginner smeltery blocks that you only ever use once

Like why???

Xcept at least the tinker stuff you can craft

[lofty warren]

honestly, in some of the bigger modpacks i've used these to make specific alloys even later on

since they were much more compact

[glad heath]

Use a deployer with a knife

[abstract star]

ok i guess i can use bamboo spikes

[lofty warren]

deployer with a knife is a better idea

will get you all those extra cuts

[little orbit]

when you are in the ruin use this type of hammer

[lofty warren]

i found an everlasting knife in the nether

😄

keeping it safe until i start automating cooking

[little orbit]

blackstone version tho

[lofty warren]

i have blackstone hammer and i think i have the iron hammer too

but i think the crates also need something else

and i am not sure how to craft it

[little orbit]

they dont

[lofty warren]

pry bar?

i was told i need iron hammer and pry bar

[little orbit]

the claw works as a pry bar

[lofty warren]

and i made the iron hammer

but i have no clue about the pry bar

the claw?

[glad heath]

Claw

Yes

[lofty warren]

i got no claw

[glad heath]

Pickaxe

Change the heads to claws

[lofty warren]

i will make a pickaxe extra then

thanks

[lofty warren]

two claws?

[little orbit]

just one

[lofty warren]

or one hammer, one claw?

[little orbit]

thats how i did

[lofty warren]

thanks

[little orbit]

if you need help of how to open the chest/crates let me know

[glad heath]

There are chests

You bang the little []

And then pry it open

You'll know when you see it

BOth hammer and claw

[little orbit]

^

[lofty warren]

ooooo i really like the changes in .5 create

andesite clear casing ❤️

i might ping you guys later on

i am trying to finish off almost entirely my create quest page 😄

see what will need more work (train stuff)

now i can put convenient glass casing in important locations to remember not to mine through the wall 😄

[little orbit]

nice

reminds me i need to decorate my base some time soon

[lofty warren]

i just discovered the tinker's workshop in my previous world and when that messed up after one of the updates i restarted and cycled seeds until i had one nearby and set up base in it 😄

now i don't need to decorate

just have to make sure whatever I add fits the already existing aesthetic

[little orbit]

oh 👍

[lofty warren]

it is a really nice structure with a very steampunky dungeon in the basement with tons of create equipment and rotational power setup

[little orbit]

my life is complete

[lofty warren]

so once you clear it you have like 47k SU to use 😄

[lofty warren]

split between different floors 😄

aww

[little orbit]

noted will keep in mind

[lofty warren]

alriiight

only 4 quests left in the create page 😄

the hyper enchanting liquid and all the train stuff

[spare walrus]

is charstone supposed to drop something? if so, they're also not working with tetra tools

[glad heath]

@abstract star

[abstract star]

thx

[pallid wren]

There's actually a bunch of materials that Tetra Tools simply obliterate from existance. So I highly recommend keeping a standard diamond pickaxe with fortune and mending.

[lofty warren]

lol

the spirit mod has no book and the quests have like no explanation lol, gotta have to watch a video or two

[glad heath]

man building a house uses alot of wood

[lofty warren]

lol

if i can't commandeer an existing structure I usually make a hobbit hole in a hill or a mountain so I don't have to make all the structural engineering, just dig out holes inside and decorate the walls 😄

[glad heath]

we live in acacia biome

but like im using oak

and the trees dont grow big so i need alot

[lofty warren]

um you can force them to grow big actually, but i think if you set up a small create tree farm you will accumulate more than you need quite quick

[glad heath]

[lofty warren]

huh

my goblin bouncer spawner that was really quick at spawning the other day is super slow now

i wonder why

[lofty warren]

ummmmmm

ok this modpack has some sort of setting that automatically changes simulation distance??

i noticed that it keeps changing from what i set it up to

and i set it up to something small (like render 8, simulate 8) cause i run on potato

but i am checking now the logs of the single player server and i can see it changing the simulation distance back up after i have manually changed it down?

is this some rubidium setting or something ?

this might explain the fluctuations in performance i am seeing :S

and java using up more memory than the limit it started with

ummm reading the console it seems that xaeroworldmap keep rendering changes due to snow might be making huge lag :S

[random pollen]

Claim protects them

[abstract star]

oh...

well already made a setup with bamboo spikes that works

good to knwo tho

[lofty warren]

i have never seen such behavior in any modpack before. Where it would change my render distance/simulation distance/ when I have explicitly set them to something :S

if anyone knows where this is coming from or how to change it, pls tag me

[pallid wren]

Ooooookay. First time going into the nether: More bullet. Fire protection armor before going in, not an option to go without.

[glad heath]

Gun solves every problem

[south copper]

anyone know why these aren't considered 1 cart

is it the way i glued?

[spare walrus]

hm

is making a netherite tool in tetra worth it

considering quark's 'repair with diamonds' doesnt affect the tetra ones

[abstract star]

so i remember reading here that u can koopa stomp a terrapin?

was that a lie?

it isnt working

nvm

was in my claim was why

[spare walrus]

does the netherite backtank work for water too

[glad heath]

Yes it still has air

[south copper]

an attempt to make trains have a purpose by depositing cobble for iron/gold farm so it isn't just cobble gen attached to everything

[lofty warren]

heyooooooo

i thought the last thing was the hyper-enchanting liquid, but it turns out i missed one 😄 still nice to set up this 😄

can i put a filter on the output pipe?

[south copper]

smart pipe

[lofty warren]

hm but that needs to be connected here after the actual pipe?

pump i mean

basin - pump - smart pipe - other pipes?

or can the pump be moved?

hm actually i think there is smarter way to do this

cause if i place another basin below teh first one (1 below and one on the side) it will automatically output there the result from the mix in the upper one

only the result

then i don't need the smart pipe

[open ruin]

You could in theory setup a cobblegen underground that way it's still within your base and chunkloaded, but not as laggy

[lofty warren]

but for future uses, what should the sequence be?

[south copper]

yea i could do that but then wouldn't have a reason to use trains at all its just for fun

[astral hearth]

Oh god, there's 75 guns in this modpack from two mods alone. @spiral thorn

[little orbit]

is the right smart pump connected with a cog

[lofty warren]

there is no smart pump

just smart pipe

[little orbit]

yea smart pipe i meant

[lofty warren]

so is the correct way
1 : basin - pump - smart pipe with filter - output
or
2: basin - smart pipe - pump - output

this way with second basin it doesn't need filter

cause connected basins only move the output from the recipe

to the next one

[little orbit]

im thinking

what are you making again

[lofty warren]

i needed to make the hyper enchanting fluid

for the quests

but this is a question on general mechanics of create pipes and pumps

should the pump be connected to the source of the liquid or it can be anywhere on the pipe-network as long as it is powered and moving in the right direction

[little orbit]

anywhere

is your blaze burner super heated btw

[pale crag]

it can be anywhere

oh someone already responded, woops :p

i always like to turn my pipe into glass with the wrench so i can be sure its flowing

ease of mind sort of thing

[lofty warren]

right now not, because i have been working on stuff

i already made the bottle 😄 so i know the setup works 😄

i was just trying to fix it cause i noticed the first iteration the second pipe would pipe out the input xp when it ran without the other ingredients for the recipe and i wanted to avoid that

[little orbit]

because your fist set up is correct

[lofty warren]

the first setup had a logical flaw

😄

which i found out

and i am correcting

[little orbit]

oh you needed the filter in that case

[lofty warren]

almost finished i will test the new one now

... i don't that's why i added the second basin

😄

[little orbit]

use the smart fluid pipe

[lofty warren]

i don't need to set up filter if i use the second basin 😄

[little orbit]

well true but in my opinion it just makes everything easier

[lofty warren]

and it provides extra storage buffer

so the setup now looks like this

and it worked 😄

[little orbit]

if it works it works then no complaining

dont have the resources but if i were to auto mate it the smart fluid pipe would work as a precaution in case there isnt enough of one resource and it would let something get by

[open ruin]

You make the train go underground

[slender kettle]

[open ruin]

[lofty warren]

that's exactly what the second basin does

[open ruin]

Some of them are duplicates though ain't they?

[lofty warren]

the second basin can -only- receive the correct "output" from the recipe in the upper one

if the upper one is waiting for resources, nothing will go down

[little orbit]

well never thought of that, but you got it all figured out

[lofty warren]

i got through the second chapter of Create above and beyond so the simple mechanics are somewhat known 😄

in that pack you have a lot of mixing recipes you can chain

and this way with the basins you can actually set up sequential mixers too

[little orbit]

well i played create solo and got to know the mechanics (majority of it)

[lofty warren]

use the output from the first to mix a second recipe immediately

i've done a lot of starting stuff

[little orbit]

hmm noted

[lofty warren]

but this is first time i have blaze burner haha

[little orbit]

they are very usefull

especially with the steam engine combo

[spare walrus]

wow. reaaaaally sick of darkstone

why's it gotta take SO long to mine

[little orbit]

wym

[spare walrus]

im trying to tunnel at -59 for diamonds

and there is SO much darkstone

[glad heath]

It might

[spare walrus]

and even though i have a tetra netherite pick it takes way longer than deepslate to mine

[glad heath]

Not have a mining level ?

Or it's just tetra being a butt

Like I have tetra stone pick I break reefstone from the clams

And it just disappears

[little orbit]

for me my iron tetra pick go brr and poof for some blocks

[glad heath]

Yea

[spare walrus]

well, yeah, i mean, the darkstone drops, and it still mines relatively quickly

[little orbit]

but i found most of my diamonds swimming in caverns

[spare walrus]

but its harder than deepslate

and its everywhere

and its just so annoying

[glad heath]

Hrm

[little orbit]

honestly go up higher i do -38 at times

you can also get the mining drill for immersive engineering i like it but its alot to maintain

it works as a shovel and and a pickaxe having a 3x3 mining area

[glad heath]

You can make a tetra

Quarry hammer

[little orbit]

^

[glad heath]

It takes echo shard and nethetire scrap tho

[spare walrus]

hey....

the runes from forbidden and arcanus

are the sprite for it a reference to isaac?

[little orbit]

is it

[astral hearth]

Nah, I counted them.

[spare walrus]

hang on, im trying to get an image

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965323266204000286/1127402025961918544/image.png

[lofty warren]

have you used your skills to increase mining speed?

[spare walrus]

fuck, that other one doesnt embed

but holy shit

it absolutely is

[little orbit]

damn

[open ruin]

Here's a good question. Not sure if you have the resources to test this but, how do the guns look on placards?

[lofty warren]

anyone has a clue about why my SP server keeps changing the simulation distance, ignoring my settings? My log is full of these sort of interactions all the time

it is the first time I see this behavior, other modpacks just keep my settings as I put them in

[slender kettle]

its a mod iirc

its from someaddon

dont remember modname

[lofty warren]

i would really love to disable it, I have been having some very weird behavior lately

[random pollen]

its part of servercore

which you most definitely do not want to remove entirely

[lofty warren]

I am just noticing it because my game is having a lot of tps lag, waaaay more than I have had on much heavier mods.. and java is actually using more RAM that I have allocated it? Which is also very weird

[random pollen]

so you'll have to go have a look in its config

[slender kettle]

Isnt it Dynamicview?

odd

[spare walrus]

wait

[random pollen]

used to be dynamicview, but servercore does more

[spare walrus]

is that what's been forcing my singleplayer game to reset my render distance and simulation distance to 10 even when i try to lower it

[lofty warren]

i think so

that's what i noticed at first too

[random pollen]

thing is, it only bumps it up if it can handle things

[lofty warren]

but now i am checking the logs and it keeps cycling distances

no

it cannot handle it

[obsidian ridge]

Yeaah that mod for sp is not very good tbh lol

[lofty warren]

can't you see - it is trying to pump it up when my server already has 500 ticks behind

and it is doing it non stop

[random pollen]

it bumped it up to 12 once the lag was gone

[lofty warren]

i suspect the recalculation for this is actually taking more resources than to keep the distance stable

[random pollen]

the lag instantly came back and it reduced it down

[lofty warren]

yes, but i have set up my distance to 8

from the settings

why would it ignore those

also it isn't trying to put 12 when the lag is gone

it is constantly cycling

and trying to lower it

and when it can't put it to 4

it goes to 12

😄

cause i guess that's the max limit from which it tries

to set it up

[random pollen]

it only checks once per 15 seconds and it checks the MSPT

im telling you right now

something else is causing wild fluctauting lag and its not servercore

servercore is reacting to it

[lofty warren]

might not be servercore

[random pollen]

that 30 second lag vanished in a second

so servercore went.. ok i can bump to 12

[lofty warren]

but this behavior is first time i encounter ever

[open ruin]

That's amazing

Imagine a fireplace, you got the shotgun mounted

Classic

[random pollen]

theres the setting

[open ruin]

Maybe a few trophy heads

[lofty warren]

thanks!

[spare walrus]

no because efficiency is my outright least favorite enchantment

[lofty warren]

I will play around tomorrow

[spare walrus]

i hate shredding terrain

i like playing more precisely

[lofty warren]

i will also check some of the other mods

[lofty warren]

not enchantment, and here you can remove levels in the skills when you don't need to use it anymore and it returns the xp

[random pollen]

what do you mean, you just have to let go of the mouse button in 0.00001ms else half your base vanishes. its easy

XD

[lofty warren]

so you can increase it for mining in the deep dark

and then lower it when you return up so you don't accidentally destroy your base

[open ruin]

Power, precision, prestige. The pinnacle of the war smiths art.

[lofty warren]

shads: i have seen my game use more RAM than the launcher is allocating

have you ever seen that?

cause that's another first for me

[obsidian ridge]

Ive seen that a million times personally lol

[random pollen]

so when you allocate ram youre allocating it to the 'virtual' machine thats running (the jvm)

but java itself needs some

i wouldnt expect it to be that much more then allocated though

totally not familiar with OSX memory allocation though

so who knows what other weirdness is there

[lofty warren]

i've played a lot of modded before 😄

it ain't the osx memory allocation

[random pollen]

its not the pack

[lofty warren]

i am assigning it 8 GB

[random pollen]

because the pack doesnt control it

the pack runs within the constraints of what the launcher is doing

[lofty warren]

and i regularly now see it having 11.something GB (just because it can't grab the last 4.something used by other apps/system)

yeah the launcher is set to 8 (the starting screen also confirms it, that warning etc)

[random pollen]

its an OS level thing then

i wonder if its grabbing some virtual memory space for it too

[lofty warren]

i got to try to copy the save to the curseforge and see if it stays within the limits there

[random pollen]

because if ram is tight, it will swap to disk

[open ruin]

Easy method of seeing how much RAM you need. Cut your RAM in half, so if you have 16, run 8. If it's utilizing less than 8, cut it down again until you reach around 70% utilization.

The game really doesn't require all that much, especially if you're pretty early into a pack and don't have a lot going on/aren't loading tons of chunks from memory.

There's been testing done that shows you really don't need more than 8 unless you just... Really like having good render distance

Which isn't even a thing in multiplayer mind you since render distance is prioritized by the server

[random pollen]

yeah we're not on about that tho gris

[lofty warren]

Modifies mobcaps, no-chunk-tick, simulation and view-distance depending on the MSPT.

[dynamic]
# (Default = false) Enables this feature.

so the default is false

ops

sorry

[open ruin]

I'm lost then, shadmister.

[lofty warren]

not sure why discord formatted this

[random pollen]

it does that, dont worry

ok so single player config has it off

[lofty warren]

no

it says "Default = false" in the commented line

[random pollen]

right got ya

[lofty warren]

but the setting is set to true

[random pollen]

yes

[lofty warren]

so the modpack has it changed from default?

[random pollen]

yes because it is an optimization

if it didnt, your 30 seconds tick lag might be 60

also it seems it does the extra memory on windows too

its a bit more overhead then i remember

but its definitely not the pack

[lofty warren]

um this config file confuses me 😄 at the end there are a bunch of values, one of them is like "stop ticking mobs if outside of max distance" and it is set to false? 😄 🤣

[random pollen]

btw you can check what servercore is up to with /servercore status

[lofty warren]

it's 3 am

i'll just go to bed

test this out tomorrow

[open ruin]

https://youtu.be/i0ECfmZFqKQ

No embed?

[random pollen]

er.. thanks? :p

[open ruin]

chezborgor

[marsh jay]

WHERE

WHRJR

EHTER

WHERE

WHAT COUBTRY

[slender kettle]

uk

[marsh jay]

THATs too FAR

NOOOOOO

[abstract star]

can guns only have 3 encahntments?

seems to be jsut conflicting enchantments

so pretty much only 3

such a good gun now

[random pollen]

thats a lot of dmg

[astral hearth]

They have tons of chicken shops, but not that great of meal.

[spare walrus]

warning to anyone in winter

gunshots can break ice without leaving water behind

just keep that in mind so you dont make lakes ugly on accident

[plain flower]

oh that's good to know lol

[open ruin]

gun

[plain flower]

As you wish.

Currently has a medium scope, muzzle break, wire stock, and tactical grip on it.

[open ruin]

those are some good enchants for a AR

[plain flower]

And that 100 shots is more like 250 with Reclaimed on it.

250 round mag is

[open ruin]

massive poggie woggie

[plain flower]

My first Create windmill :D

Putting one in each quadrant of this hill I've designed, each one has like 5120 su. Should be enough to power a good few things, right?

ooo I could put more sails over the current sails to make it even faster, right?

[smoky sand]

you can increase speed in other ways

[open ruin]

as long as they're all connected, the orientation is null

[smoky sand]

large cog into a small

followed by a adjustable chaindrive

[plain flower]

wait that'll increase the su capacity?

[random pollen]

no, just the rpm

[plain flower]

ah sorry, i meant as far as increasing the capacity

Is there anything with a higher capacity than windmills?

[random pollen]

sails = speed, but i dont think you can increase the overal SU it produces

[plain flower]

aye, i'm just not at the full 128 sails atm

[random pollen]

not sure you wanna be either lol

[open ruin]

[open ruin]

If that's the case it may be more ideal to create several small windmills rather than a few large ones

[glad heath]

So mangrove is uh maybe a bit more of a pain than acacia haha

[open ruin]

Still can't find it?

[glad heath]

Naw it's like

It's super dense

And has roots

That don't decay like leaves

[open ruin]

Did you try a mechanical saw?

[glad heath]

I'll try it now but I don't have hopes

[open ruin]

just make sure you do it on a spot that only has one block

[glad heath]

Also used like almost have a stack of bone meal for like 3 trees

[open ruin]

if it's like 2x2, it won't work unless you cut off the other 3 blocks with an axe first

I've honestly never seen a mangrove tree tbf

[open ruin]

ah

[glad heath]

this hairy monstrosity

[open ruin]

well, luckily we won't need too much

just for the trim

[glad heath]

Well saw doesn't work on the root, well ok it breaks the root

But just that singular block

Ok it does work if it grows on the log

Cuts*

But it doesn't grow in a base it just chooses to grow up 6 blocks in the air

Got a stack and 30

Logs

[abstract star]

well i remove that mod since i hate seasons

[glad heath]

Bruh I messed up the placement

[abstract star]

of?

[glad heath]

So I broke the slab the lantern hanger on

And it fell

Broke and caught me on fire

[abstract star]

what u talking about?

[glad heath]

if i break the slab

it falls

breaks and starts a fire

[abstract star]

oh!!

are those the vanilla lanterns?

[glad heath]

Yep

[abstract star]

oh

[glad heath]

If the whole house burned down I'd quit lmao

[random pollen]

fire wont spread far in a claim

also vulu are you sure its the cinder mobs that dont respect claims and blow shit up ? cos i couldnt recreate the issue

[abstract star]

Vulu single player or private server?

[glad heath]

Sharkies private server

[abstract star]

oh nvm

[glad heath]

Yea so

The cinder is like the blaze but it has those shield things

And when it dies

[abstract star]

ik

[glad heath]

It launches basically a ghast fire ball

[abstract star]

it still can shoot after death for a bit

[glad heath]

I claimed an area with the blaze spawner

[abstract star]

so annoying

[glad heath]

And it still blew it up

[abstract star]

also guess what

[random pollen]

ah

i thought it was an actual on death effect

[abstract star]

they can still break blocks with mobgriefing set to false

[abstract star]

no it is them shooting one of the attacks but it is invis since it died

[shut valley]

I made cinders spawn more in the next update

so get used to it

[abstract star]

what!??!

[glad heath]

You monster

[plain flower]

[open ruin]

gonna remove magnum torches too?

[plain flower]

Sharkie, we I love you, but pls

[abstract star]

was the block of vehement coal problem submitted?

[glad heath]

This is like God damn

[open ruin]

YES

WE DID IT BOYS

[random pollen]

oof

[open ruin]

HARDCORE GAMEPLAY 4K

[random pollen]

y'all better learn IE and engy decor quick lol

[open ruin]

SUCK IT

[abstract star]

lol

removed cinders

we were baited

[spiral gorge]

Anyone made a youtube series for this pack yet?

[peak rain]

oooo new update

[glad heath]

sigh of relief

[random pollen]

everyone better set up the IE lamps before they update lol

[open ruin]

I'm considering it

[random pollen]

else first night in is gonna be interesting

[spiral gorge]

Please do, I'd like to watch someone play it. Toss me the link if you do!

[shut valley]

Suev is possibly considering it

[abstract star]

exrememly sad about the storage mod switch

[open ruin]

steampunk SMP when

[abstract star]

it just says issues but what issues?

for simple network storage

[glad heath]

We lost our diamond we spend on the remotes I guess

[abstract star]

?

oh

[open ruin]

ask sharkie for a refund

we want our quartz back!

[shut valley]

could wipe and make it public

[open ruin]

you know honestly

well okay question, would you be able to send me a world download?

if you do want to go public and wipe

It's not that we did anything crazy that is super cool or whatever; but I would like to keep the memory if that's alright

really enjoyed my time with vulu on this world

[glad heath]

Oh. You can fish name tags and saddles .. I never fish so I guess we don't need that mod

That I suggested

Yea I'd like a world download too

[open ruin]

could you imagine the server went public, and everyone just started doing drive-bys

[pale crag]

noo my simple storage network setup

all gone

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1030522429208019064.webp?size=48&name=noo&quality=lossless

[abstract star]

ya im not that happy about that either lol

[random pollen]

only if you update

[abstract star]

what was the problem with it?

omg it is tom's...

that one sucks

ugh

[glad heath]

why does that one suck?

[plain flower]

why does Tom's suck? D:

[abstract star]

compared to simple it is bad

[plain flower]

but it looks a lot cooler

lol

[open ruin]

Storage & Crafting Terminal
Inventory Connector
Open Crate
Wireless terminal
Filtered connectors
Inventory Hopper

what is the difference? they seem similar to me

[plain flower]

They're very similar

[abstract star]

i jsut wanna know why it needs to be replace in general

[plain flower]

because SteamPunk

[abstract star]

?

[plain flower]

It fits the esthetic more? idk

[open ruin]

I mean, I don't know if knowing why would change anything

[pale crag]

toms iirc is a lot harder to use?

i think?

[open ruin]

if anything you could just... add it back

in your own world

[pale crag]

honestly i never used it myself so i cant say

[abstract star]

i just wanna know their logic for changing it

[pale crag]

rip my large setup tho

[open ruin]

same

[pale crag]

says there are issues

[abstract star]

ya what issues? havent found any yet

[pale crag]

shrug

sharkie mustve found something

[glad heath]

Eidolon, that was eh an ok magic mod I could never get past the second chant lmao

[astral hearth]

WHYYYYY

GRIS, YOU SON OF A GUN

[open ruin]

Eidolon is pretty fun

YAAASS QUEEN

SUCK IT

LEARN THE POWER OF POWERRRR

[abstract star]

what happened?

[open ruin]

magnum torches got removed

[shut valley]

1. SteamPunk
2. SSN has issues with large amount of NBT
3. SSN: 30 Open Issues TSS: 0 Open Issues
4. SteamPunk

[astral hearth]

Added Tom's Simple Storage Mod (by tom54541)
Added Tom's Trading Network (by tom54541)
Added Tom's Create Storage (by EndRage)
Added Guard Villagers (by almightytallestred)
Added Eidolon Patches (by EndangeredNayla)
Added Fast Paintings (by MehVahdJukaar)
Added CullLessLeaves Reforged (Unofficial) (by ccr4ft3r)
Removed Simple Storage Network (Replaced/Issues)
Removed Abnormals Delight (Causes Issues)
Removed Magnum Torches (Use Powered Lanterns)
Removed IDAS Marketplace Structures (Crashes with Alex's Mobs)

[abstract star]

ok

[glad heath]

im just wondering why pneu was mentioned when its not in the pack?

[astral hearth]

I WAS SO HAPPY WITH THE MAGNUM TORCHES

[wet walrus]

Were cinders spawning disanled because they were causing issues?

[abstract star]

what is so good about the torches?

[open ruin]

Learn to generate power. We have plenty of ways 😉

[shut valley]

i rpobs missed it, been working on 4 updates multitasking and i haent slept

[wet walrus]

They lit up a massive area

[abstract star]

oh ok

[open ruin]

They keep mobs from spawning in a further radius than regular torches

[abstract star]

oh

[abstract star]

oh damn

[open ruin]

however, this de-incentives the benefits of Powered Lanterns

since they do the same thing

[abstract star]

what are thosse?

[open ruin]

They're lanterns from Immersive Engineering

You power them with LV wire

and a power source

[abstract star]

never knew that had such a function

[glad heath]

get some rest 🛌

[open ruin]

Neither did I until Shad mentioned it

also yeah shark you're a fucking machine, go to bed

[wet walrus]

Anyways why was cinder spawning disabled?

[glad heath]

they explode

[open ruin]

because they're awful

[glad heath]

and ignore claims and mob griefing rule

[astral hearth]

They're the worst version of the Ghast.

[abstract star]

the better question is why do u want that still

[open ruin]

want what

[abstract star]

cinders

[open ruin]

ah

[grizzled tusk]

Hmm. So, I still have issues with my machines no producing anything while im offline (but the server is always on)
On the map, I claimed the chunks with the machines, and set them to force load. And it says they are "forceloadable"
But is there something else I need to turn on to make them start being force loaded? Like a server command? Anything else I need to do?

[open ruin]

yeah p sure no one likes cinders except masochists

[glad heath]

the only thing it is used for

[grizzled tusk]

Or can I just.. Not do it?

[glad heath]

you lose on everything lmao

durability toughness

why would you do that

[random pollen]

that should be all you have to do. you must have something out of one of the chunks that it needs that isnt chunk loaded

[astral hearth]

I was celebrating my windmill and clock working together in my house, and no this announcement just dropped.

[open ruin]

listen, ven

[grizzled tusk]

Hmmm. Ill just grab ALL of the ones in the surrounding area just to be sure

[open ruin]

you're gonna love it

trust me

[astral hearth]

Give me one fair reason.

[open ruin]

lanterns look so much better than dotting torches around

they're cool

[grizzled tusk]

Can I increase the amount of forceloadable chunks I can have?

[open ruin]

and you know me, rule of cool trumps all

[random pollen]

yeah but not sure how you do it with openpac

[glad heath]

if it was ftb claims i know how but it isnt

[abstract star]

so i need to remove options before updating again right?

[grizzled tusk]

But also, this is the iron farm for example. I definitely have everything it requires. I will grab a lot of the surrounding ones

[spare walrus]

another mislabeled quest

[grizzled tusk]

Also yeah, I need to update to v4! Though it's a bit messy that my entire storage network will need to get replaced lol

[abstract star]

same...

[open ruin]

excuse me

I just saw something

[astral hearth]

It's a good damn thing I didn't make a magnum torch! yet, but god damnit, you had to suggest it.

[grizzled tusk]

Should I remove all of the storage network blocks before I update just incase?

[wet walrus]

Is there a public steampunk server?

[open ruin]

you can right click on blaze spawners to fill a blaze burner

https://youtu.be/JiTD-W71sOM?t=410

[astral hearth]

shad, you just had to tell him...

[grizzled tusk]

Yup!

[open ruin]

I did not know this until now

[grizzled tusk]

prety nice

[open ruin]

Technically we both didn't know about it. We were both reading through the manual because I couldn't figure out how to power them

listen man

it's gonna be awesome

trust the process

lanterns are way more thematic than whacky voodoo torches

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/996250521465790514/1127164977325822013/image.png

[astral hearth]

If it's about theme, then magic shouldn't be in it.

[abstract star]

ya

true

[open ruin]

electricity magic

is thematical to an artificer

[glad heath]

"Fixed some quests" did you add like stuff to guide people through the spirit mod?

[astral hearth]

So voodoo should be fine.

[glad heath]

Since none of thos rusted have subtitlles

[open ruin]

💀

[glad heath]

Those quests*

[open ruin]

It's cooler

trust

besides, I only made the suggestion.

you don't arrest the arms dealer for selling a murderer a gun

[abstract star]

true sometimes

[shut valley]

Quest update will come later

[abstract star]

was the block of vehement coal fix in this update?

[shut valley]

wtf is vehement coal

[spiral thorn]

Nah, magic and steampunk are definitely still a thing imo, artificer vibes

[abstract star]

for making the scorched ingots

[astral hearth]

Scorched Guns mod

[shut valley]

it be great if people submitted github issues

[open ruin]

Not to speak for Sharkie, but it would be

yeah

shit you're fast

[abstract star]

?

[glad heath]

hellu

[open ruin]

If you find an issue with the pack, the best thing to do is to make an issue submition to the github repo

[glad heath]

got that death screen twice thing in test world lol

[open ruin]

not mention it here

[wet walrus]

yeah i experience this too

[abstract star]

i thought someone did is why

[open ruin]

I mean, did you check

[wet walrus]

also forgot to report that anytime i die with a full inventory and pickup the thing saving my items, i lose all of my tools, the lantern to let you stay at a stable temp in the nether, and food

like they just straight up get deleted

[wet walrus]

probably other things im forgetting too

[shut valley]

would this work?

[abstract star]

yes that works but the block form isnt craftable

[open ruin]

is that really an issue or just the fact that you didn't have any space in your inventory

[shut valley]

yeah shads also thought this buts its because of space

[wet walrus]

probably the fact that i didnt have any space in my inventory

[shut valley]

i dont think it gets deleted

[wet walrus]

no they do

[open ruin]

they don't

[wet walrus]

i cant find any item that got deleted anywhere after picking up the thing containing my items

[shut valley]

so i if i get a full inventory right now and i die it will get deleted?

[open ruin]

Whenever you activate the little floater thing, anything you can't put in your inventory immediately goes onto the ground

[wet walrus]

you can try

[wet walrus]

that doesnt happen for me

they quite literally straight up get deleted

[open ruin]

ight, boutta hop on and check

[abstract star]

that block doesnt have a recipe

[wet walrus]

i search everywhere around my death point for them, and even check the map and they dont show up on it

check my inventory, they arent there

[glad heath]

Died ike another 20 times and the red death animation got reversed 🤔

no clue what sup with that

[wet walrus]

it's specifically tools and that soul lantern thing that get deleted everytime, sometimes food is deleted too

[random pollen]

its hotbar stuff, but ive been keeping an eye on it and its always ejected onto the ground

unless youre in creative mode

cos creative just deletes overflow

survival it ejects the extras

[wet walrus]

no it happens when i die in survival

[shut valley]

@wet walrus no items deleted, the rest are placed on te ground

[wet walrus]

well then must be an issue with me then

[shut valley]

or your just missing it?

[wet walrus]

no i even go into spectator mode to search for them, and i cant find them anywhere

on rare occasions they just get ejected onto the ground, but most of the time they straight up get deleted

[shut valley]

that block isnt used for anyhting?

[abstract star]

it is

look at the pci below

[shut valley]

well it addes 3 items

[abstract star]

what?

[shut valley]

oh wait

i see

[abstract star]

ok

[wet walrus]

maybe it's fixed on v3.5 and 4 for me, but i havent tried yet because ive been doing other things

[abstract star]

thought i was going crazy there lol

[abstract star]

wait ur still on v3?

[open ruin]

same thing on my end

[wet walrus]

yeah i havent played in like a week because ive been doing other things

[open ruin]

items drop, not deleted

[abstract star]

might be that then

[wet walrus]

well they get deleted for me

[open ruin]

[plain flower]

The amount of red there is blinding lmao

[abstract star]

try updating then try again

[open ruin]

do the same test and see if they're actually getting deleted

[glad heath]

are you in the nether when you die, like it mightve gone into fire or lava or something

[wet walrus]

i keep telling y'all that i search everywhere around the death point after picking up the orb, and even look at the map and they dont show up for me

[open ruin]

go into a creative world, fill your inventory, wear some armor and fill your curios slots

then kill yourself with the amulet

your items will drop

[glad heath]

also didnt someone say there was no gun duplicates

[open ruin]

no, I think we said there was duplicates

[random pollen]

alt recipes

its the gui that sucks for this mod :p

it doesnt group alt recipes together

[open ruin]

ven actually counted them and it totally around 75 guns altogether

[glad heath]

huh..

and im not on server so

this is the only recipe

but there was one for x32bullets on the server (AKA the old gun)

but singleplayer its that 16x one 🤔

[open ruin]

no you're right

there is one for 32x and one for 16x

funny enough, not so funny

they have the same material cost

same cost

double the ammo

[glad heath]

Naw

Jei shyst shows 1

For everything

Just

[open ruin]

JEI shows both of them

[wet walrus]

okay it seems to be fixed in these newer versions

dont know why it was happening in v3

[glad heath]

Yeah but the cost is like 4 cooper 3 gunpowder vs 3 copper 1 gunpowder

Something like that

[open ruin]

oh

JEI doesn't show cost values

?

[shut valley]

funny

[open ruin]

so scorched isn't broken

[shut valley]

its because there is no _ in the space

lmao

so recipe doesnt work

[glad heath]

[open ruin]

wow

entire recipe broken because of a typo

[glad heath]

it just read it as vcoal,json then

[abstract star]

XD

[glad heath]

also yea the sorches only take scorch heavy bullet and vice versa

[plain flower]

Hm. I wonder why libraryferret didn't update

[shut valley]

whoever wants the fix

[abstract star]

thx

[shut valley]

ill add to next update

[open ruin]

but yeah as far as the heavy bullet is like, idk. Using more gunpowder for more bullets, seems fair ig

[abstract star]

k

[open ruin]

you're paying more than double gunpowder for more bullets

seems fair

[abstract star]

they are two different scorched guns mods

[open ruin]

i know

[abstract star]

so the ammo wont work for the other mod

[plain flower]

More than double the gunpowder, but half the copper

[shut valley]

[open ruin]

it's the same amount of copper

4

[abstract star]

what am i looking at?

[shut valley]

look closely

[plain flower]

Yes but 2 crafts = double