steampunk

[random pollen]

cool, just minecraft being wierd then :p

well that and it was prob a resourcepack order thing

[south copper]

has anyone noticed while using guns u get more loot than using a regular sword? idk if its just coincidence but when i kill a creeper with a sword i get 5-7 gunpowder but when I use the jackhammer or vulkan hunting gun (what i tested) i get double the loot being 10-14 gunpowder. I believe its most drops? String and emeralds were also doubling but not zombie flesh.

at least on v3

[random pollen]

are you headshotting?

[south copper]

could be its a shotty

[random pollen]

its possible the guns are doubling loot from headshots

i'll test it out tomorrow

[south copper]

is that a thing 🤔

[random pollen]

headshots are def a thing

[south copper]

oh i meant doubling from headshots

[random pollen]

shoot some creepers in the feet and find out

[soft surge]

Also simple storage networks seems op. its dirt cheep requires no power or even create rotational power. And is also dirt cheep for inf range cross dimension inv access.

[random pollen]

shhh

[soft surge]

Its got a create skin on it, it would be cool if you could power it with a cog

[lofty warren]

storage systems are supposed to be QoL and lag-lowering utility, not really supposed to be an obstacle 😄

it does not have an autocrafting option 😄

[random pollen]

er

[lofty warren]

does it?

[random pollen]

ok no it doesnt, had to check

i get it mixed up with toms

which does

[lofty warren]

also i don't think the system has a create skin on, i played with it in a different mod long time ago (actually might have been better mc) and it still looked like that

[soft surge]

export cable with the right filter? you could get that to autocraft

[lofty warren]

autocrafting i mean to craft on request

[random pollen]

its a resource pack

[lofty warren]

or schedule crafting

[soft surge]

What are people using for good early food? I have just been stuffing myself with chips.

[lofty warren]

anything available

sadly, no benefit to eat unique foods 😄

ok time to make some backtanks!

[south copper]

hmmm headshots are not the cause but I think its my ring that is causing the double loot. al though its weird cause its not as consisent with melee

[ebon flax]

cabbage rolls are easy, if u got cabbage seeds and pretty much anything else

[south copper]

wonder if the pellet count has anything to do with it

[ebon flax]

i just set up a few clouches (if thats how u spell it) to keep me fed

i noticed the immersive engineering water wheels dont like shaders

whats the ring?

[south copper]

seven curses

[ebon flax]

ahh

[south copper]

is forceloading on the map the samething as chunkloading?

[ebon flax]

are u meant to be able to have that and the other amulet at the same time?

[south copper]

which amulet

[ebon flax]

something went wrong for me and it reset my quests n everything, so now i have both

[random pollen]

yes

[ebon flax]

the one u get to choose at the start, the ring or the amulet

[random pollen]

nah you get the amulet every time now

ring optional

[ebon flax]

ok cool

[lofty warren]

so the quest book says "when powered by kinetics ... " but obviously different type of gears are needed

so how do i fill it in?

[random pollen]

only works from the top

unfortunately

[lofty warren]

but... HOW

[random pollen]

so hang it under the gearboxes and it would work

[lofty warren]

doesn't have gear on the top

ok

[random pollen]

that little doodad at the top is like a shaft

[south copper]

i did the samething

[random pollen]

also i say to hang the tank under a cog in the quest. i guess i should be clear and say its the only way it works ;p

[lofty warren]

yeeeey

i got 5 tanks now

filling them all with air

that should last over an hour 😄

i am ready to go spellunking

so many interesting structures on the map

[south copper]

my first grade reading level skills

[lofty warren]

is there a way to combine the respirator with a helm?

[south copper]

time to go in the configs to add more forceloading slots cause i decided to remove a village

[random pollen]

nah its its own helm

with a netherite version too

[south copper]

u use a copper diving helm with the tank btw

[lofty warren]

can it be enchanted?

[random pollen]

yes

its still a full helmet

[lofty warren]

oh not the respirator?

[ebon flax]

tahts my tank filler

[random pollen]

diving helmet with the back tank

[ebon flax]

and my only create contraption so far hehe

they fill soooo slow

[random pollen]

they do til you speed up the cogs a fair bit

[lofty warren]

you can speed up cogs quite a bit

[ebon flax]

hehe yeah, thats why i got 2 of those adjustable gear chain thingys, and the cogs

[random pollen]

i mean looking at that setup

they have got it sped up 8x

[ebon flax]

oh i meant its slow before, now it doesnt take long

[random pollen]

ok yeh

[ebon flax]

i tried with the hand crank at first :S

[south copper]

hand crank i think ur better off just holding ur breath

[ebon flax]

after munching a few fishs stews to keep up the hunger drop, i decided to build that

[lofty warren]

do i need the full diving setup

[ebon flax]

haha yeah

[lofty warren]

or helm + backtank is enough?

[ebon flax]

nah just the helm

[south copper]

nope just helm n tank

[soft surge]

for rice, do i need to find some wild rice? or am I just getting unlucky smashing grass

[ebon flax]

the garden cloches take rice as is

[lofty warren]

rip my beautiful diamond helm

[soft surge]

i dont have any rice

i want some

[south copper]

don't quote me but i think u can take off the enchantments

not sure tho

[random pollen]

you can

but i dont know how yet

lol

[south copper]

[obsidian python]

What were the issues castle and hustle were causing? I had thought about downloading it for a personal modpack but I was hesitant

[ebon flax]

i couldnt find disenchanting that saves the enchantment in this pack yet

[random pollen]

conflicted with alex's mobs i think it was

[south copper]

its not grindstone n book like it was in another pack as far as I know

i don't even know what mod that was

[ebon flax]

theres a disenchanter in create but it just turns the enchants into xp

[soft surge]

what is the mod that sometimes gives mobs regen?

[lofty warren]

I am checking my books now if i got anything useful to add to the helmet

cause i don't have enough levels to make big enchants

[ebon flax]

respiration is handy :)

actually idk if it works on air?

but i figured its handy

[lofty warren]

it works on air

[south copper]

did u do the engineer manual quest gives 100 lvls

[lofty warren]

it was working with this diamond helm i had

[south copper]

pretty sure thats fixed in 3.5

[ebon flax]

ok cool, good to know

[lofty warren]

even when i didn't have tank

wut

[ebon flax]

sweet ty

[lofty warren]

100 lvls

no it doesn't

it gives 2 ingots?

[south copper]

are u on 3.5v?

has it been changed?

[lofty warren]

i am still 2.5

[south copper]

oh

[lofty warren]

is it changed in later version? 😄

[ebon flax]

when u update, make sure u dont have anything stored in the loot chests

i lost all my tetra loot

[lofty warren]

uuf

thanks for the heads up

[ebon flax]

but on the upside, all ur shiny loot chests will be restocked :)

[south copper]

this is 3.0v but this is a typo which is most definetly fixed in 3.5v

[lofty warren]

welll i guess good time to UPDATE

😄

[ebon flax]

haha

[lofty warren]

to v.3

[ebon flax]

well idk if it was just a thing that happened for me

[lofty warren]

if i find out how

[ebon flax]

but it happened

[south copper]

u using curseforge?

[lofty warren]

but july 1st

[ebon flax]

i am

[lofty warren]

was that even v.3?

i am using curseforge

[ebon flax]

it was when i went from 3 to 3.5 today

[lofty warren]

but it didn't give me notice that there is update

[south copper]

i don't think it does

[lofty warren]

i will restart it

[south copper]

i didn't even know 3.5v was a thing till someone mentioned it

[ebon flax]

i just loaded it up when i noticed sharkie posted 3.5 update, so i did it straight away

[south copper]

hmm must've been when i went asleep

[lofty warren]

i got used to other launchers in the past half a year

that are way more easy to navigate than cursforge

[ebon flax]

was about umm.. 12-14 hrs ago i think

ish

[south copper]

wait really

[ebon flax]

yeah he mentioned it in here soon as i got on

which was about midday for me i think

3 am now

[lofty warren]

so how do you actually update on curseforge then

i have entirely forgotten

[ebon flax]

the little 3 dot button next to play

[lofty warren]

i don't have that button

[ebon flax]

oh that one, my bad lol

[lofty warren]

😄

fuck OSX i guess?

😄

[ebon flax]

u dont?

ahh

[lofty warren]

or let me check if i am like beta version or not

[ebon flax]

wait mines the 3 dot one too actually

click the 3 dots

its under there

[south copper]

i never messed with my curseforge

[ebon flax]

hmm wtf

mines under play in that menu

[south copper]

add more content?

i don't have that option

[lofty warren]

that's to add mods or to update mods individually

you have to activate it by changing your profile options

[south copper]

how do we all have different setups for curseforge launcher

oh ok

[ebon flax]

haha right?

[lofty warren]

OSX version my guess

[ebon flax]

im windows

[south copper]

^

[ebon flax]

odd

[ebon flax]

yeah mine looks like taht

[south copper]

i know there used to be a literal update button

idk what happened

[ebon flax]

can u right click the icon from "my modpacks" tab barb?

it gives me the option there too

[lofty warren]

i am telling you, this button/option is not available for me

[ebon flax]

oof

there must be some way to do it

[ebon flax]

:S

[south copper]

do u have that?

[lofty warren]

it is already activated

[ebon flax]

u could probably copy ur save folder and download it from fresh?

[lofty warren]

that's why you see the "add more content" in the previous screenshot

[ebon flax]

annoying way to do it tho

[south copper]

disable it

[lofty warren]

that's one of the reasons why i am so unhappy that none of the other launchers worked with this modpack

[south copper]

then u can change versions

[lofty warren]

i'd really like to be able to use a different launcher

[south copper]

*Please note that if you enabled the option to "Allow content management for this profile" in the "Profile Option", you will have to disable it in order for the "Change Version" option to become available. Any content changes you made for the modpack will be overwritten by the version change, unless you select "Update to new Profile".

[lofty warren]

yey that did it!

so... v3 HF?

wait we are dealing with temperatures now :S

[clever forum]

wait since when that was feature ?

i didn't see that one

[ebon flax]

i did 3.5

3.5 is what reset all the loot crates for me

[lofty warren]

ok but you said the 100 level quest reward was in 3 😄

[ebon flax]

w

[south copper]

i just googled it i never saw this option either

[lofty warren]

did the 3.0 version reset the loot crates?

[ebon flax]

nah from 3 to 3.5

[south copper]

it might be just from updating in general

[lofty warren]

cool

[ebon flax]

i think shads said the 100 levels was just a typo

[lofty warren]

well, i am gonna take advantage of that typo cause i need to enchant a diving helmet 😄

[ebon flax]

haha if it was a typo it prolly wont give u 100 levels

[south copper]

its most definetly not a typo

[ebon flax]

i think u can get levels back from rolling back skills in the skill book tho

i could be wrong

[lofty warren]

i know but i don't wanna roll back skills

[ebon flax]

ah ok

[lofty warren]

they keep me alive too 😄

[ebon flax]

hehe

[south copper]

when shads pointed it out shxrkie said this is what happens when u edit things with little sleep

[lofty warren]

i got like 60 levels invested in dense skin (to get it ti lvl 17)

[clever forum]

well i gonna use that for updating mods and adding without making new profile for update mods .
thanks for tips

[ebon flax]

ahh haha there u go then

100 lvls it is ;)

[lofty warren]

ok updateting to v.3

was the 100 lvl after the hotfix too? 😄

[south copper]

i dunno im still on v3

im waiting for my cannon to finish moving the earth

[ebon flax]

hehe

[lofty warren]

v3 or v3 hf

[south copper]

im just on v3

[ebon flax]

it only has 3 HF for me

[lofty warren]

well let's see

[south copper]

removed the evidence of v3 existing for 100 levels

[ebon flax]

haha

whats the HF stand for?

[lofty warren]

hot fix

[south copper]

hotfix

[ebon flax]

ahh

[lofty warren]

i think there was something very wrong with the first v3

so he immediately put v3 hf

[ebon flax]

gotya

[lofty warren]

and not showing the v3 for download

[south copper]

um just a couple things like not spawning with the stuff to keep ur inventory n a few recipes

iirc

[lofty warren]

ok so with cold sweat i not only have to keep an eye on the oxygen but also on the temperature

cannot wait to get to ad astra space suit

[south copper]

temp really only takes effect if u go near lava

[lofty warren]

does that work for the overworld for oxygen?

[south copper]

or stand on an icelake

[ebon flax]

yeah have fun in the nether :S

[lofty warren]

yeah "if you go near lava" - me, not been to the nether yet

[south copper]

thats what waterskin is for

[ebon flax]

i take 6 of those water skin things, and they run out pretty fast

[south copper]

really?

[ebon flax]

is there a better way to do it?

[south copper]

i just sit on 2

in hotbar

[ebon flax]

hmm

[shut valley]

Nether is easy, you just hold the soul lantern thing in off hand and it gives you immunity

[ebon flax]

ohhh

[south copper]

oh yea that too ^

[ebon flax]

ty sharkie!

[south copper]

i luckily got one from a quest reward

[ebon flax]

lovin the modpack btw :)

[lofty warren]

soul lantern 😄

[ebon flax]

awesome, i got one im my storage

[lofty warren]

so, 100 levels quest reward typo ... was it fixed with the hotfix or not? ... we will find out in a moment

[shut valley]

Why go hf?

Go to 3.5

[ebon flax]

hehe

[south copper]

its a soul lamp n u need heart of the sea for it

[lofty warren]

cause i really need to exploit that typo 😄

[ebon flax]

she wants the 100 lvls

[south copper]

or get lucky and get it from the quest rewards

[shut valley]

That typo ain't in hf

[lofty warren]

nooo 😦

[south copper]

day 1 updaters

[shut valley]

Wdym get lucky, it's literally the quest for entering the Nether

[lofty warren]

i really hate that curseforge update does not preserve the options you have set like GUI and performance things

😦

why is it so stupid

[ebon flax]

maybe thats how i ended up witha ton of levels

i was upto 132 by the time i got my enchanting table goin

i never really pay attention till then

[lofty warren]

i was up to 60 levels when i crafted the skill book

don't think i've been above 30 since.. start to use them

[ebon flax]

dont u get the skill book from a quest?

[lofty warren]

no you need to craft it

[ebon flax]

i never crafted one

hmm

maybe i did

i cant remember now

my memory is garbage

[south copper]

oh mb i just clicked claim rewards n saw like 10 different things and figured it was a random drop

[ebon flax]

oh ur right, im mixing it up with the iron spells whatasmadoosie one

[south copper]

anyone here know how one would obtain the testament of contempt?

[ebon flax]

no idea sorry

[indigo anchor]

Still learning Create, but I did a thing

[ebon flax]

taht sounds handy tho

[lofty warren]

ummm

[lofty warren]

in v.3 hf the reward for the engineer's manual is still 2 iron ingots

😦

so maybe it was an earlier version still that had that bug

because in 2.5 it was still 2 iron ingots

[ebon flax]

says u need to spend 99.5% of ur time with the ring on?

im at 22.5 hehe

[lofty warren]

oh wait, it is the other quest for the manual.

yeah it's +10

😦

not even +10 levels i think, just +10 😄

oh well, it is what it is

i will have to do with whatever i find in my looted enchantment books

[south copper]

99.6%

for me

[ebon flax]

hmm

idk then

[lofty warren]

so... should i update to 3.5

what is the change?

[ebon flax]

loot chests refil hehe

[lofty warren]

Added Sorting Buttons to Iron Chests

but...

Delete your Options.txt to make sure you launch with the correct Resource Packs and Keybinds 😭

"disabled spawner pick up"

... he read about shad moving a blaze spawner with the tempad to the overworld

[south copper]

shad snitched

eh the unique loot from the seven curses covers that tho

[lofty warren]

i am just not sure if i need to delete the options.txt before update or after

seven curses is hardcore mode

think about normies too pls

😄

ok updating to 3.5

or gonna try to at least

[south copper]

i wish create had a progress bar on the schematic cannon

[lofty warren]

who here is on 3.5?

i need clarification for the update text saying i need to delete options.txt

is this after the update, before you play or before you update?

[ebon flax]

im on 3.5

i didnt notice that, but i didnt really read it hehe

[lofty warren]

it said it is needed to have correct keybinds and resource packs.

oh well

i will have to redo my settings again (performance wise) so ...

[south copper]

make a back up n see what happens

[lofty warren]

yeah my v. 2.5 backup is still here

;D

[ebon flax]

yeah it does say that, but i didnt do that

didnt mess my keybinds

i always change shift to run and ctrly to crouch

[lofty warren]

updating with curseforge always messes my keybinds

it just overwrites the options.txt file every time

[ebon flax]

coz every other game uses it like that :S

wth minecraft

[lofty warren]

btw

[shut valley]

Resetting is just to ensure everything works as Intended otherwise if it doesn't people complain

[lofty warren]

i keep getting the message that only 4000 MB ram are recommended for this game while i am running it with more

[shut valley]

V4 won't need reset and will save options and keybinds

[lofty warren]

but pretty sure the description of the modpack said at least 6 GB, right?

[shut valley]

Send ss

[ebon flax]

weird mine says 12000

[lofty warren]

i clicked to not show it again, but it will show it after the next update, so i will send then

i got 16 GB ram in my mbp and i am putting 8 GB for the game (cause i read that too much memory might make issues for mc too)

[shut valley]

Well it's minimum to maximum

[ebon flax]

ah ok, im not sure how it works tbh

i got 32 gig, didnt allocate any diff like i usually do

told me im using 16 and the game reccomends 12

[lofty warren]

lol

[ebon flax]

i used to have to allocate every time i started a game

[shut valley]

How much did you allocate?

[ebon flax]

i just left it, didnt touch anything

in the past i upped it when things got laggy

[shut valley]

Well if it's 16 then it's nor recommend to go above 12gb

[lofty warren]

it comes either from your minecraft launcher settings or from your modded launcher settings

[ebon flax]

will it make much difference? seems to run great so far

yeah the launcher would always take it back to 4 or something in the past, even if i changed it

so i just started leaving it alone to do what it wants

[lofty warren]

ummm

i am still very confused if i was supposed to delete options.txt before or after the update

but i am going through the keybinds now

and they are the default ones

[ebon flax]

i had it open for 2 days without closing it at all and it ran fine

[lofty warren]

including that the backpack keybinds have all those conflicts they had from before

so... what has changed?

[ebon flax]

i wouldnt worry about it, or maybe i should? hehe

seems to work alright for me

[lofty warren]

i am just annoyed i have to go over this every time i update

i do not like this launcher 😦

but when i tried to install the modpack with other launchers it didn't work

[ebon flax]

im pretty dumb when it comes to whatevers going on under the hood

im more of a "click things and see what happens" kinda guy..

[indigo anchor]

I think I’m going to disable or remove the thin air mod, I feel like it adds unneeded tedium. Maybe it’s more interesting in multiplayer but in singleplayer it just feels like a time waste

[lofty warren]

ok loot chests did not reset

[ebon flax]

i havent been hacked or had my identitiy stolen yet.. so all good?

[lofty warren]

but their textures are messed up

[ebon flax]

i like the extra difficulty of the air mod tbh

[indigo anchor]

It’s not difficult it’s just annoying

In my opinion

[ebon flax]

fair enough

i think u can disable it in the configs, from what someone said on here earlier

[indigo anchor]

I think the mod is too barren, if it had some additional features, like lush caves giving oxygen I’d be more interested.

In it’s current state it just adds like 4 items and an annoyance.

[lofty warren]

it adds a time limit to what you can do

similar to ad astra in space

[indigo anchor]

I’m not saying it’s terrible

[ebon flax]

alota mods could be described like that tho hehe

[indigo anchor]

But even vanilla minecraft has more options for dealing with water breathing

I.E conduit

[ebon flax]

the create stuff adds into it tho

backtank and diving helm

[indigo anchor]

Oh those work? I’ll look into them.

[south copper]

wait what were u using before

air bladders as well?

[indigo anchor]

Also the goblin mining trader guy also dies to thin air lol

[ebon flax]

yeah i was annoyed till i found out those help ALOT too tbh hehe

[indigo anchor]

I was using Air bladders and a respirator.

[ebon flax]

haha yeah, they keep eating apples then just cark it

[lofty warren]

conduit is a multiblock structure with limited area of effect

not something you set up on the go

[indigo anchor]

Yeah but it works forever

[south copper]

we all forgot to use create

[lofty warren]

yeah that quest reward is literally in just +xp now, not +xp levels 😭

[ebon flax]

hehe

[lofty warren]

so +10 xp barely moved my bar and i am only on lvl 14

[ebon flax]

oof

[lofty warren]

the difference in how it is written 😭

[ebon flax]

i got a fair few levels doing pillager raids

coz i got a flether in my attic

fletcher*

[lofty warren]

i mean, i will gather them up again, especially when i go exploring

[ebon flax]

just poked a hole in my base and stabbed them with a tetra spear through the gap

[lofty warren]

it is just that the quest rewards give so little

[ebon flax]

u can get a heap of reach on the tetra spear

[south copper]

if u want xp u can try ur luck n get an xp booster from elder guardians

33.3% drop chance i believe

[lofty warren]

😄 elder guardians have other places to spawn besides underwater monument?

[south copper]

no

[lofty warren]

in all my many travels so far i haven't found one yet

uh oh

the blacksmith skill made my game crash

yep it is a repeating crash

if i go to the skill to check what it does... it crashes

where should i report that?

don't wanna ping sharkie to ask :S

[south copper]

is it repeatable?

[lofty warren]

yes

if i go and do the same things it crashes immediately

just open my skill book and click at the blacksmith ability

[south copper]

i believe u can just post the logs in here since i've seen people trouble shoot in the chat before

[ebon flax]

ouch

[lofty warren]

i mean there isn't more log than the error - it didn't crash the actual instance, it just closed the single player server

and funnily enough it exits me in the multiplayer server place

😄

not the single player screen

[cinder tendon]

Can you repeat the problem in a fresh save? (IE, could it be something more ultra-specific to your existing saves conditions)

[lofty warren]

you mean start a new world?

i can try it in few minutes

[cinder tendon]

Yeah, Start a new world with cheats and grab the skill see if you can reproduce there.

[stuck crystal]

what counts as a tier 2 sword for tetra

[ebon flax]

i had that problem hehe, u need to make a short blade

and its in the 2nd page of the list

i missed the next button on the right below

[lofty warren]

i think gnome traders are affected by the suffocation rules

[ebon flax]

yep they definetly are

apples and death

cage them! its cheap and beneficial hehe

donate a few iron bars and wooden slabs, save the gnomes

[soft surge]

I have spent a very long time looking for rice. Farmer's Delight wiki says they spawn in swamps and jungles. Any reason they wouldn't be spawning?

[ebon flax]

not sure, but i just get rice out of chests usually

ther should be heaps in villages

[lofty warren]

waaait what is this 😄

[ebon flax]

looks like loot to me hehe

[lofty warren]

hmmmm this spider cave... surprisingly few mobs so far

although i see on my minimap radar something called "annihilator" 😄

and i think people here mentioned it as an example of "things worse than Warden"

earlier today

so.. how bad is it?

i am close enough to be able to see it supposedly but i can't :S

didn't you guys say that petrimen were disabled in the v.3.5?

[royal isle]

Hey I have a problem with my world. So when ever I go to a specific place in my world the moment I load the chunk my game just stop working I can move but chunks stop loading, I can't open chests, I can't eat and if I try to walk to any unloaded chunks I fell from the world but I never die. The worst part is when I try to save and quit it just freeze and all I can do is alt f4 and my game doesn't save

[shut valley]

what version of the modpack?>

[royal isle]

The newest one

[shut valley]

Remove alex mobs, then load the area then add it back

[lofty warren]

it is some sort of structure with portals to many "dimensions"

not necessarily dimensions that are in this modpack 😄

[ebon flax]

ooh

[lofty warren]

i cannot see mobs, there is some small loot i think put mostly as decorations...

but all this lava with the new mod is making it very ... difficult to look better

😄

ah i am wrong! there is a spawner!!

of wraiths?

but they are not attacking me... yet?

there are portals towards the twilight forest and the bumblezone 😄 if they were here

[royal isle]

Wow thanks it worked

[lofty warren]

ok this area looked cool but didn't have action or loot 😄

just like a small easter egg of a sort

[royal isle]

Guys do you know where I can find diamonds or any good gear in general because I can't go mining because its very annoying and every time I went I found 0 diamonds

[lofty warren]

villages can have structures with diamonds in them

[lofty warren]

nope, didn't crash on a new save.

[cinder tendon]

🤔 So it's probably something specific to your save, which'd mean they likely need a copy of your save to diagnose- Especially since it crashes so hard it doesn't even give a log file

[open ruin]

latest.log exists for that reason

!moreinfo

[scenic pollen]

Hello! For us to properly help you with your issue, you will need to answer all 8 questions below. Post the answers in this channel:

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, etc)
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Send the crash report file into this channel. Right click the modpack, Open Folder, and navigate to the Crash Reports folder. Drag the newest one here. If there is no crash reports folder, do the same thing with the latest.log file in the logs folder.
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq?

[open ruin]

7

[lofty warren]

in the log I can see this

[20:14:55] [Server thread/INFO]: Atealein has made the achievement [Diamond is Unbreakable]
[20:14:55] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Atealein has made the achievement [Diamond is Unbreakable]
[20:14:55] [Render thread/INFO]: Loaded 2001 advancements
[20:15:07] [Netty Local Client IO #0/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] New skill (Blacksmith) unlocked!
[20:15:12] [Render thread/INFO]: Finalizing world map session...
[20:15:12] [Server thread/INFO]: Atealein lost connection: Internal Exception: java.util.ConcurrentModificationException
[20:15:12] [Server thread/INFO]: Atealein left the game
[20:15:12] [Server thread/INFO]: Updating all forceload tickets for 54793736-03d4-4025-9ab3-2f58bd6af6c8
[20:15:12] [Thread-14/INFO]: World map cleaned normally!
[20:15:12] [Server thread/INFO]: Stopping singleplayer server as player logged out

it doesn't actually crash the game ... it says I lost connection LOL

[open ruin]

you need to send the whole log file

[lofty warren]

it isn't a crash log

it is my "current session" log

or rather latest.log

[glad heath]

The blacksmith skill didn't crash on new save?

[lofty warren]

which has the entire thing of all the playing i have done today

12Mb

[lofty warren]

no, doesn't crash on a new save

.... there is no crash reports folder

👀

i am trying to tell you this 😄

here you are. the "crash" because of the blacksmith ability is timestamped 20:14:55

[open ruin]

cool

[glad heath]

Weird. Haven't tried to use the skill on sharkies server yet

We don't exactly have a lot of ender pearls

[lofty warren]

you get the ability scroll if you make a diamond shield

that's how i got it

it was a quest reward

[glad heath]

Oh

Hrm

And on the new world you crafted a diamond shield used it and it was different that time

Which was no crash

Is what Im getting?

Or did you "craft" the skill page normally

Maybe they're somehow different?

[lofty warren]

no i spawned the ability scroll

i can try with the quest reward

[glad heath]

Kk

[open ruin]

my internet is having none of my shenanigans today

rip

[karmic rivet]

whats server ip

says I dont have access 😛

[wet walrus]

what does a thermolith do?

[open ruin]

#community-servers-info

linked the wrong channel

[obsidian ridge]

There is no public official server

[glad heath]

It detects the temperature and outputs a redstone signal. From 0 at freezing temperatures to 15 at burning temperatures

I had to join the discord server to find the info because it's not on the wiki

Also you can't grow the soul sprout on 1.19 it's a bug

The lantern uses the soul sprout but it doesn't actually consume anything

[lofty warren]

i have to do all the quests that unlock the diamond shield quest 🤦‍♀️

[glad heath]

If you have cheats enabled you can edit quests and force it to be completed iirc

[lofty warren]

it's ok, it isn't that many of them i will spawn the items

nope, doesn't crash either

alright, this is from me, have a good one folks

[wet walrus]

What's a setup i can use to speed up the pressurization rate of the copper backtank

i hate having to wait 15 minutes just to only have 15 more minutes to mine

[lofty warren]

um

increase the speed of the rotation

[glad heath]

You use gears

Big to small shaft to big to small shaft etc

It doubles the speed

[lofty warren]

large cogweel - small cogwheel increases x2 or use speed controller

if you connect
B - s
|
B - s
|
B - s

will increase the speed x8

[glad heath]

We have setup on sharkies server that we can speedily charge like 4 tanks at a time or something

And you can enchant them with capacity to get up to half an hour of air

[wet walrus]

how many water wheels will that require since i feel like with 1 that'll overstress it

[cinder tendon]

What are the 'key.categories.ignore' binds for? And is it safe to unbind them if I want the keys they use?

[glad heath]

Big water wheels have double capacity half the speed

[open ruin]

create a line of large water wheels

5 should be more than enough

[grand yew]

whats an efficient way to start rf generation?

[open ruin]

alternator

it takes su and converts to rf

[lofty warren]

... or immersive engineering?

since that's the mod that actually uses RF 😄

[open ruin]

you could be I'm going off the assumption most people would start with create first

lol

[wet walrus]

will a 5 block deep hole with water flowing at the bottom be enough for the large water wheels? I would create an actual line, but I couldn't figure out how to get the copper backtank to start filling like that

[grand yew]

I installed Refined Storage because I cant be bothered with managing chests (yes I am that lazy 😄 )

[lofty warren]

it doesn't work vertically

to stack waterwheels

because water flows downwards

[open ruin]

we have a storage system in the pack already

[lofty warren]

not sideway

[open ruin]

simple storage network

[grand yew]

yeah ik but im not a fan.

[open ruin]

ah, fair

[lofty warren]

there are iron chests, you really don't need to bother that much 😄

just put several upgraded chests

[grand yew]

yeah but i dont want to have a load of chests standing around when i can achieve the same with literally 3 blocks

[open ruin]

but yeah if you've already started with create, use an alternator. if you started with immersive engineering, just go down that way

[grand yew]

but again, im not here to advertise a mod, im just looking for some energy to run it 😄

[open ruin]

Immersive Engineering has some thermoelectric generators, water wheels, wind mills, etc

creates rf directly

[wet walrus]

i couldn't find a way to get it to work horizontally tho

[grand yew]

yup saw them. windmills dont look too bad to build I think

[open ruin]

nah, just string and treated sticks iirc

[lofty warren]

what do you mean?

[open ruin]

if you have a coke oven and a small farm, it's easy

[lofty warren]

check create wiki if you need explanation

but literally place the wheels one behind each other

and then place water on top of all

[glad heath]

Wheel part
Shaft area
Wheel part

If you need it to go down

[lofty warren]

no

[glad heath]

Use a vertical gearbox

[lofty warren]

it won't work

[wet walrus]

this is what i mean

[glad heath]

I don't mean sideways wheels

[lofty warren]

unless you place a layer of blocks to stop the water from flowing down

[glad heath]

I meant like that

[lofty warren]

yes this will work

[glad heath]

Shaft out

Then vertical gearbox

[grand yew]

just remember, water needs to go over the water wheel, not below it

[open ruin]

don't even need a vertical gearbox, just a shaft and andesite casing

iirc

[cedar python]

it works below

[grand yew]

oh does it? never got it to work like that

[lofty warren]

if you want to chain wheels that are placed horizontally, the issue is that you have to have
wheel
layer of solid blocks
wheel
layer of solid blocks
wheel

so the water doesn't flow down

[open ruin]

water needs to touch all sides of the wheel for it to be most efficient

so yes it does work like that

[lofty warren]

you need the water on top

not below

[cedar python]

Nope, that was changed in the 0.5 update

now it just needs to spin and it's at max

[lofty warren]

place one block in the upper level

place water next to it

[grand yew]

ah might have been me using and old version then

[glad heath]

Bro why go create tutorials online is like "ah yes to fill the backtank we are using creative motors"

[lofty warren]

and make sure you are placing it in the correct direction cause water weels have direction

[glad heath]

Doesn't teach anyone anything

[cedar python]

Not since create 0.5

[cedar python]

proof

[lofty warren]

not sure what this is prooving? since it is 0 su

[cedar python]

it's a gif

[lofty warren]

ah a moment

[cedar python]

showing it spinning in both directions giving the same su

[lofty warren]

ah cool

only 256 tho?

[glad heath]

Yes

[lofty warren]

no 320 anymore?

[glad heath]

It's the small one

[lofty warren]

before you could get 320 with a small one

[glad heath]

The big is double capacity but half speed

[glad heath]

I haven't played with create too much to remember anything like that (not saying you're wrong or anything)

[cedar python]

Here's proof of it being the same with different amount of water touching

[lofty warren]

yeah i was playing with it but not on the newer mc versions

so i guess it was older create version

[cedar python]

Yeah, this change is very recent

[grand yew]

so the coke oven just needs 3x3x3 coke oven bricks, right?

[lofty warren]

yes

27

it is a cool change. but lowered the max su i guess

[glad heath]

Have any of you guyse made the guns

They're really cool

[grand yew]

also, just a random question... is it just me or does night sound like bombs going off in the distance? 😅

[glad heath]

Just you

[open ruin]

ah, didn't know this.

granted a few of us are coming off from prominence, which didn't have the update

[cedar python]

Yeah, I get that haha. I'm not even playing this pack

[open ruin]

appreciate the correction mate

[cedar python]

Pretty much only on prominence 2 atm

:)

This pack seems interesting though

was kinda waiting to see if an official server would pop up though

[open ruin]

It's definitely a more refined experience, I would say

[grand yew]

i mean the last time i was using create was probably some valhelsia version, soooo... its nice to learn some new stuff 🙂

[open ruin]

I love my prom world, but there isn't much to do after you've basically become god

[cedar python]

Btw one cool thing they did for the waterwheels in the new update is you can change the woodtype by rightclicking planks onthem

and it works with pretty much any plank

[open ruin]

yeah that's neat

[cedar python]

even modded ones

[glad heath]

Join sharkies private server we could always use new peeps usually it's just me and gris on consistently

[open ruin]

yeah, just have to ask sharkie

[cedar python]

where do I find this sharkie

[open ruin]

well

he's the big guy

[slender kettle]

@ 丂廾闩尺长工㠪

[cedar python]

ahhh

[open ruin]

kek don't tempt it

xD

[grand yew]

say his name 3 times, I dare you

[cedar python]

pm or is there like a thread?

[open ruin]

I'll ask him in the private channel, hopefully he see's it

[slender kettle]

丂廾闩尺长工㠪

丂廾闩尺长工㠪

丂廾闩尺长工㠪

[cedar python]

private channel?

[obsidian ridge]

Nerp

He said it might go public soon tho iirc

[glad heath]

There's a channel just for the private server

[obsidian ridge]

Oh oke nvm myb

[cedar python]

could you link the channel because I can't find it

[slender kettle]

its private

[cedar python]

ohh

I'm silly

[cedar python]

I read this as "Ask him in the private channel"

And I'm like...

what?

ign is 100lewi btw

[open ruin]

me when everything

[grand yew]

anyway

thanks for the help guys

[open ruin]

np

[wet walrus]

this did nothing, it's still filling at the same speed

[glad heath]

You need a shaft

In-between

[wet walrus]

oh

[glad heath]

So like on top the small

Then on the shaft the big gear etc

[cedar python]

rotational speed controller if you can

they are awesome

I do realise you might not have access to precision mekanisms though

[glad heath]

Might not

I'm joking, not many people have experience with create so I can see why people have issues

[open ruin]

btw vulu

that's one thing we may need once we get the boiler installed

[wet walrus]

i dont

[open ruin]

because idk if I really want to have a bunch of geared up shafts everywhere

😄

[glad heath]

Ah yea

[open ruin]

everything is mostly setup, it just needs power and we have train casing

I even colorcoded the belts so we know what does what

[glad heath]

I'm just eating lunch rn and then I'll get on

I forgot you can do thay

That

[open ruin]

oh, no rush

my internet is being absolute dog-water today, so I probably wont be on in any real capacity until much later

[glad heath]

Ah

[wet walrus]

i highly doubt you mean like this, so do you mean like a tower?

im sorry im genuinely clueless

[open ruin]

no okay so

place a large cog, then attach a small cog to the side

the place a shaft on the cog

then a large wheel on the shaft

so in like an L shape

L COG -> S COG
SHAFT
S COG <- L COG
SHAFT
L COG -> S COG
SHAFT
S COG <- L COG

it'll look like a zig zag pattern

[cedar python]

or something like this

[glad heath]

Yes that

You can do it sideways too

[open ruin]

yeah that works too

same concept

[cedar python]

sideways

[noble creek]

how do you automate putting air into the copper tank?

since it requires a shaft on top of it

[wet walrus]

So i did it like that but it's still filling at the same rate

think i messed something up with the water wheels

[open ruin]

you... attach it to your su system

[glad heath]

Vertical gear boxxxxx

[open ruin]

idk what you mean by automate

you put it down, and it does the thing

that's about as automatic as it gets

[wet walrus]

The vertical gearbox is what's causing it?

[glad heath]

Like

If you have wheel > gears > gears etc

It's going sidwways

Right

And the tank needs to be powered from the top

[noble creek]

whats an su

[open ruin]

stress unit

[glad heath]

So just put a vertical gear box so you can do that

[open ruin]

i.e., whatever is generating rotation

[glad heath]

It goes right/left to top or bottom

[cedar python]

stress unit, essentially what the total power is can be generation or consumtion*

[noble creek]

right now im using a hand crank so I assumed there was a way to not have to manually power it

[wet walrus]

that is a vertical gearbox tho

says gearbox but you can tell from the icon

[cedar python]

this looks right to me but you're only speeding it up by 4x

the first small gear and last big one do nothing

[wet walrus]

it's only filling at the same speed as before though

[glad heath]

I meant gear box at the end if you make the gears go sideways not vertical

[cedar python]

do you have engineers goggles to confirm this?

[wet walrus]

no, but just looking at it with jade shows the speed it's filling at

unless that's not entirely accurate

[cedar python]

it's accurate just not a great way to gauge it imo

since they fill so slow

[wet walrus]

i feel like it could be something wrong with this water wheel setup

[glad heath]

https://youtu.be/U9lxG83t6kg

[cedar python]

if they're spinning they're fine

or well

if they're all spinning indivitually if none of the other ones were there they're fine*

engineers goggles

highly recommended

[glad heath]

Need shaft in-between like the video

Stacking big on top the small directly doesn't do anything to speed it up

[open ruin]

[cedar python]

the speeding up has nothing to do with the shafts, you only use the shafts to be able to do it in a straight line the way they set it up works fine

or at least from what I can see in the picture they sent

[wet walrus]

did everything here, and it is filling up faster now, but it still feels rather slow

128su

[open ruin]

it's a slow item to fill

even at 256 rpm, it still takes like 30 seconds to fill a fully enchanted tank

[cedar python]

this would be max speed

[open ruin]

or something like that

[delicate igloo]

cursed

[cedar python]

right

[glad heath]

Just follow that pic I guess

[open ruin]

stairway to cogven

[slender kettle]

This is horrifying

[cedar python]

correct way

[open ruin]

objectively

[cedar python]

ofc you should do it wihout clipping imo

[open ruin]

petition to use small cogs in speed controllers

[astral hearth]

This isn’t cursed, this is peak engineering.

[cedar python]

I guess this is cleaner

[delicate igloo]

WHAT THE F

horrible!

[cedar python]

waht?

[open ruin]

yeah that looks nicer

[delicate igloo]

the cogs are clipping into the machines XD

that is

not allowed

[astral hearth]

This is normal

[cedar python]

noone would actually put their rotational speed controller right up agains their water wheels though... right?

[open ruin]

what you didn't notice is that the wheel itself is clipping into the ground

[astral hearth]

I mean, you might wanna change that nobody statement to you.

[delicate igloo]

OH GOD NOW I CANT UNSEE IT!!!!!!!!!!

[open ruin]

[astral hearth]

Hey Gris, you mind doing me a small favor? I need like 2 stacks of oak wood (not logs), it’s for my steampunk house.

[open ruin]

I would

[astral hearth]

I’ll be on shortly if you’re able to

[open ruin]

if I could actually log on

[astral hearth]

Ah..

Oh well, then I’ll do it myself, thanks anyway.

[delicate igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/ups-oops-gif-25712345

[open ruin]

yeah, ping is pretty bad right now

I totally would otherwise

[cedar python]

creative world cba lol

[delicate igloo]

dont tag me again

[astral hearth]

Tbf with the water wheel, it’d be weird as hell to see a circle in MC anyway.

Let alone any of the cogs

[cedar python]

speaking of cursed

this texture

[astral hearth]

Oh yeah

That texture would be good for aesthetic in a rundown or abandoned mill.

But it does look awful.

[cinder tendon]

Think it'd look better if closed in on the sides, so you only saw the moss/flower laden fins.

[open ruin]

blursed image

[cedar python]

nah, fir 10x better for that

[astral hearth]

There’s a flower on each section of this darn water wheel

It’s not good

[cedar python]

rustic look

[astral hearth]

Wait wait wait, try grayish wood

[open ruin]

that's actually really nice

[astral hearth]

Acacia might work

[open ruin]

like it looks really detailed

acacia wheel is meh

we have some

they're, meh

maybe I just don't like orange wood

[cedar python]

Don't really like the details on it

[astral hearth]

Aw not the grayish wood I expected

Do we have any at all?

[wet walrus]

did this an it instantly went from 11:48 to 15:00

[open ruin]

maybe try ebony wood

[astral hearth]

That’s dark as hell, but yeah

[open ruin]

dark as my soul

[cedar python]

ebony is a pretty good look for some builds though imo

sleek

[open ruin]

very industrial

[cedar python]

Tekal azelia is also pretty good

[astral hearth]

Let’s have this pinned tbh

[cedar python]

cypress, hate or love?

can't decide if its awful or not

[open ruin]

terrible

[glad heath]

Bad

[astral hearth]

It's awful.

Look at the fricken pattern

[open ruin]

actually, we don't have ars do we

[cedar python]

nope

no ars

I don't think

[thick harness]

Ah, people discovering create is so fun

[cedar python]

.>

[open ruin]

was gonna say, those magic logs are grey

[hoary egret]

Hey, can someone help me out here? I'm following the instructions on how to fill a copper backtank, 3x3 hole with waterwheel in the center and water in a corner, but for some reason the wheel isn't turning at all?

It seems so simple but something is obviously wrong, any thoughts on what I might be doing wrong?

[thick harness]

Create, gear ratios, the cursed formations of cogs that are required

[cedar python]

sophar is pretty good for gray

it might be a bit sandy though

[thick harness]

Water is flowing both ways

try placing a block behind the source one on a single side

[cedar python]

place a block next to one side of the water source

[open ruin]

that's more of a tan tho aint it

like a light tan

[thick harness]

beige

[open ruin]

yeah

[astral hearth]

Ugh, look at the texture from the front.

[open ruin]

more akin to birch

[astral hearth]

It looks badd

[thick harness]

tho its more of a off-beige

[cedar python]

fine... gray

[glad heath]

Willow?

[cedar python]

if this ain't gray

[glad heath]

Freen

[cedar python]

nothing is

[glad heath]

Green

[thick harness]

light black

[open ruin]

that's grey

[wet walrus]

rate the base out of 10

[open ruin]

but

[astral hearth]

It is gray, but the shade is weird.

[open ruin]

man that texture is ugly

[cedar python]

gray planks from spectrum

ye

[astral hearth]

You're.. on fabric?

[open ruin]

-.5/10, needs more dirt shack

[cedar python]

hahaha, yes

[hoary egret]

Ooo, now it works :>, thanks!

I am very small brain when it comes to create.

[cedar python]

this is how you find out

:|

doing the create chaper for fabric 1

got lost looking at water wheels

._.

[open ruin]

yeah he's not playing this pack, just hanging out with us losers

[astral hearth]

Meh, being nerdy about Create is fine.

[grand yew]

any idea why my immersive engineering windmill appears to be invisible?

[wet walrus]

how bout now

[open ruin]

9/10, too nice for a dirt shack

you need to throw your items on the ground and sleep only on a bedroll

no chests

[cedar python]

Here's something gray for you guys though

dead wood

dead planks*

[open ruin]

wait what about driftwood from upgrade aquatic

[cedar python]

depends on the build but it might be a bit saturated

[astral hearth]

River logs would work too.

[cedar python]

honestly not really a fan

looks a bit too, fleshy?

[grand yew]

oh well... its invisible because of the shader... yikes

[open ruin]

probably an issue with the resource pack

definitely make an issue ticket on the github

[grand yew]

which one? bsl shader? immersive engineering? the modpack?

[open ruin]

modpack

[grand yew]

copy

[cedar python]

I would be but no server access :|

[open ruin]

paste

[indigo anchor]

I have a new guard dog.

[cedar python]

sick

God I just want the prominence 2 update to go through

[open ruin]

I want prom 1 to have an update, period

kek

[grand yew]

speaking of ugly houses

[cedar python]

I think they're waiting on the create addons to get updated

Hopefully I can get the create chapter done before the update

[indigo anchor]

My house is also pretty ugly because I made it when I had only oak :P I plan to improve it later.

[cedar python]

and then there can be 3 new tech chapters :)

and like 200+ new quests

[grand yew]

in a way, my house looks like a bit like a turtle

[indigo anchor]

Have you guys jumped on the turtles yet

I killed a squid with one earlier

[grand yew]

so you literally koopa shelled it?

[indigo anchor]

Yeah

It works

[cedar python]

The windmill kinda makes it look like a snail 🤔

[wet walrus]

i just had the genius idea of bringing multiple backtanks with me to mine

[indigo anchor]

Not with vanilla turtles, but with the other ones.

I don't know the name but they're in normal rivers

[astral hearth]

Our dev is currently having her tech delivered.

Afaik, it should be soon until more updates return.

[cedar python]

ohhh right, the spill

I totally forgot about that

[indigo anchor]

My gantry kept exploding because I stopped it in a place where it "fit" but had no space so it just explodes for some reason.