medieval-mc-forge

[tranquil solstice]

Thanks. So, 4 players?

[visual sky]

yes

[tranquil solstice]

Hmm, the charm time is 0 tho -.-

Ah, not for everyone, hold on.

[visual sky]

the filter just shows up when we are in the same chunk

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, looked like 2 players were charming each other and two were fine. Please try it again.

[visual sky]

yes two of my friends were figthing sirens and got the charm

[tranquil solstice]

👍

[visual sky]

do i need to replace the .dat files ?

[tranquil solstice]

Yes, please replace them with the ones I sent back.

[visual sky]

okay ty i will try it

it worked !! thank you very much. May i ask if the bug occours again can i use the same .dat files to fix it again ?

[tranquil solstice]

Glad it worked!
No, you don't want to use the same files in the future, because they contain all your character's current data, including the current inventory.

If it happens again, just ping me.

[visual sky]

thank you mate, you made our day ❤️

[tranquil solstice]

Enjoy ❤️

[lilac helm]

Might be a few others but I think Ancient Cities are the main source of them

I love when Minecraft adds features with practically 0 use and then mods just expand on it and then suddenly it's something you actually want to get

[tulip ridge]

So there is one mob that randomly spawns, it is pink, fast and it will steal your weapon. When you kill it, it always drops it back. I did a ooopsie by accidentaly using sword with knowledge of the ages... Now I don't have my primary sword... 🥺

[lilac helm]

pixies do be like that

[tulip ridge]

That was not a pixie, some player like monster

In size, and it was pink. Just killed it fast

[gusty patrol]

Ok The Nether quest line seems broken.

• The quests expects a kill of The Harbinger
• It says to use the Eye of Monstrous to find the Soul Blacksmith in the Nether
• That works but the boss found there is the Netherite Monstrosity
• The prerequisite is to Defeat the Dead King [Overworld]
• The Harbinger is actually found in the Overworld using an Eye of Mech

[gusty patrol]

Also, most of the quests require a lot of exploration and this pack appears to really struggle with worldgen.

[lament ledge]

you know what i hate the most about the quest line - finding the lich lord in the ice tower - i have LITERALLY spent way too much time trying to find this yahoo

[wanton oak]

did you not use the eye the undead drop

[vale coyote]

!logs

[waxen brook]

To better assist with fixing your issue, we will need some logs:

• Curseforge -> Right click the modpack instance -> „Open Folder”.
• ATLauncher -> Click „Open Folder” on the modpack instance.
• MultiMC -> Select your instance and click „Instance Folder” on the right.
• PrismLauncher -> Select your instance and click „Folder” on the right.
• For servers -> Open the folder containing your server files.

To find the „latest.log” file, navigate to the 'logs' folder.
To find the „hs_err_pid.log” file, simply look for the file name after opening the instance folder.
To find a crash report, navigate to the „crash-reports” folder and find the most recent file after your crash occurred.

Once located, please upload the requested file here. If it fails, upload to https://mclo.gs/ and share the link here.

[solid rune]

Medieval MC 5 - v25 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.21.1 [NEOFORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) Curseforge
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? Some configs like kobolds dont steal items, nothing major
4. v25
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? allways
6. What steps cause the crash? playing on a lan server, when the second player logs in, both clients crash (not the server), maybe bc the player has a parrot?

latest.log | debug.log | crash-2025-09-07_20.42.19-client.txt | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Added mods:
BuildingWands-neoforge-MC1.21-2.9.jar
functionalstorage-1.21.1-1.5.4.jar
titanium-1.21-4.0.37.jar
trashslot-neoforge-1.21.1-21.1.4.jar

[slim nymph]

what magic school should i get?

[tranquil solstice]

I suppose you are the one hosting, and your friend called SilverDanger is joining? Does he have a parrot on his shoulder?

[solid rune]

yes

[tranquil solstice]

Well the parrot is causing the crash.

[solid rune]

indeed haha

so just delete it in nbtexplorer? hopefully ill not brick my friends game

[tranquil solstice]

Make a backup of his playerdata file and then remove the parrot from it, yes.

If it bricks anything, you'll have the backup file.

Oh you even mentioned the parrot in the report. I didn't read that far, sorry.

[solid rune]

lol no problem

it worked tyyyy

no more parrots for my wife then lol

[tranquil solstice]

Oh. Well, this is the first time I've come across this crash, so it's unlikely that it would crash again for the same reason. (Unless one of the added mods is the culprit, but I doubt it).

[molten vigil]

this happened to someone last week, something is breaking the vanilla parrot renderer

[tranquil solstice]

Oh :( Nvm then.

[molten vigil]

oh, you don't remember it because it happened in MMC3 fabric

that helps narrow down the causes a lot

[tranquil solstice]

Ahh, interesting. Hopefully you'll figure it out 🙂

[fringe crow]

Is there a way to store XP like in previous versions, in MMC4?

[vital comet]

I need help with one thing and advice with another. First, how do i find ocean monument cause i need this stupid eye to finally get to end and also i need evoker and burried treasure one. The advice i need when it comes to minecolonies, i have my town next to sea and what do i do with that side when it comes to making wall? Should i just ignore it and set guard tower along the shore or is there some other way?

[vocal heron]

In MMC4, does the magic skilltree work with ars?

[lilac helm]

Partly
Spell Powers are Iron's only but magic damage and mana buffs affect both

[minor juniper]

gosh we really need essentials in this pack

[lilac helm]

-# oh what's the command again...

!server

[waxen brook]

Free Method

To host a server on your own computer, read the selfhosting guide.
This guide goes over how to install, create, and launch a free Minecraft server on all operating systems (MacOS, Linux and Windows). The guide also guides you through installing Java and optimizing your server for better performance.

If you are installing one of our older modpacks, ignore the "README" file that is included in the serverpack files, as they have outdated information.

Paid Method

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go here and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

The following advice works for both the Free and Paid methods:

Transferring Your World

If you're playing Singleplayer and want to transfer your world to your server, simply go to your modpack files and navigate to the saves folder. Inside of this folder, you will see your world saves. Rename your desired world save to world. You can then transfer this folder to your server files. If your world was hosted via world sharing, this process has to be done by the person who would click "Share World".

Fixing Lag

To resolve lag issues, simply run the !tps command in #bots and follow the directions provided.

[lament ledge]

that finds the lich and not the end portal?

[fluid sage]

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[nocturne vessel]

nope

why i not can use this magic

[minor juniper]

It turns out when you put a parrot on your shoulder then open your inventory it immediately crashes the game

[vital comet]

Sounds reasonable xD

That could be the new version of alt+f4 prank

[feral canyon]

Is there a a red stone block that right click stuff with the item I give it

[agile blade]

U need to learn it through a Eldritch Manuscript

All the items are found in ancient cities and citadel (echo shards doesn't show up in the citadel)

[nocturne vessel]

ty

is ther to increase max mana capacity with cmd ?

[agile blade]

i think u can in config

[agile blade]

but trust me u wont need more mana once u get more progressed

[lament ledge]

just learned that it guided me to it. thank you

[lethal locust]

anyone on able to help?

[remote mural]

How does difficulty progression work in this modpack?

[nocturne vessel]

why?

[runic valve]

Hello! I've been trying to figure out how to limit monster levels. I've been power leveling and now the monsters are like level 110 and do insane damage. I wanted to cap the level to 99, but doing so in the Auto leveling confic changes nothing. With so many mods I don't know where to look, so if anyone knows that would be a great help!

I already changed a few things, for one I want to be able to unlock everything in the passive skill tree as I play solo. However that just keeps growing the monsters further, which makes using the passive skill tree kinda pointless.

[molten vigil]

Player-based scaling is in the medieval.json config

[runic valve]

Aha! Though if I turn it to false, then the mobs would stay level 1, or do they follow the auto leveling rules then?

Okay pretty sure auto leveling is broken or something, I set the starting level to 99 which should make all mobs spawn at level 99, but everything still spawns at level 1.

Okay I just adjusted the level scaling so it'll be around 99 when I reach my max skill level. Not quite how I wanted it to work but it'll have to do! Thx!

[molten vigil]

The other piece of this is the config values are mostly ignored, only the modifiers per level are used. the rest are changed in the datapack /config/paxi/datapacks/mmc_autoleveling

[nocturne vessel]

how many max slot iron spell book ?

[wanton oak]

the spell books have it in their tooltip

[nocturne vessel]

em where ?

[wanton oak]

search spellbook on jei

and then hover over the item

[nocturne vessel]

i dont see it

just recipe item

just upgrade orb and craft material

[nocturne vessel]

My server Got crash if i render more chunk what should i do my ram server 8gb

[remote mural]

Nvm figured it out

[nocturne vessel]

How i still don't know how to progress it

[remote mural]

So basically the loot you find through chests that are named such as mana plated gold chest plate are considered the armour and when you equip it, the mod counts it and in order to defeat an invader when in chat is says for example “the John butcher has been summoned” you have to kill on them

[nocturne vessel]

so i should adventure for that alright

[wanton oak]

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[nocturne vessel]

my server crash load more chunk how to fix it

[tranquil solstice]

Can't do anything without logs or crash report.

[nocturne vessel]

server crash log not have it

its like memory leak i adventure load more chunk make my limit ram server over 8gb

[tranquil solstice]

How many people are on your server?

[nocturne vessel]

just 1

if 2 still same

[tranquil solstice]

Do you host the server on your own PC?

[nocturne vessel]

i host for play with my friend just 3 player

[tranquil solstice]

How much total RAM does your PC have?

[nocturne vessel]

i still setup it

my server 8gb

[tranquil solstice]

I mean your computer.

[nocturne vessel]

my pc 32gb

[tranquil solstice]

Alright, hmm.

Could you send the latest.log from the server?

[nocturne vessel]

i play singleplayer not crash if adventure

alr wait

[outer hollow]

Uploaded latest.log from @nocturne vessel to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/sHQlUxL

[nocturne vessel]

this

[tranquil solstice]

Thanks.

Okay well, that's just the startup XD

[nocturne vessel]

if crash log i dont have new one

[tranquil solstice]

Maybe you can get a log file from when it crashed/froze.

There are .zip files in your \logs folder, right? Try to last .zip file.

[nocturne vessel]

debug log ?

[tranquil solstice]

Same folder where you found the latest.log.

[nocturne vessel]

this ?

[outer hollow]

Uploaded debug-1.log.gz from @nocturne vessel to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/lv92AI2

[nocturne vessel]

just this

[tranquil solstice]

The 2025-09-08-9.log.gz please.

[outer hollow]

Uploaded 2025-09-08-9.log.gz from @nocturne vessel to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/HqEQMYF

[tranquil solstice]

Thankies.

[nocturne vessel]

my issue like this but i try this my server not can start

[tranquil solstice]

Okay, but what shads is talking about there is an outright crash - with a crash report. Not a memory leak.

[nocturne vessel]

oh

[tranquil solstice]

Your server can't even launch? I thought it's when exploring new chunks.

[nocturne vessel]

my server can launch if i enter server and exploring more and more got crash

[tranquil solstice]

I see. How much exploring can you do? Like 100 blocks, or more like 2000?

[nocturne vessel]

i think 100-200

if already load chunk i can freely exploring if not yea 100-200 got crash

[tranquil solstice]

Hmm.

[nocturne vessel]

if i exploring more yea my ram get more and more and crash

[tranquil solstice]

Is that screenshot with 1 player or running idle with 0 players?

[nocturne vessel]

1 player

my self enter server

[tranquil solstice]

Still crazy, I don't know 1 player could take 7 GB, lol.

[slender dew]

hoow much ram shall i give

[tranquil solstice]

When you disconnect and let it run idle, does the RAM usage go down?

[slender dew]

to the server i mean

not my client

client is 8192

[nocturne vessel]

this if 0 player

[tranquil solstice]

Typically 4GB + 1GB for the 2nd player and every after that.

[slender dew]

8gb sounds good for 3 people?

[tranquil solstice]

If you host it locally on your PC, just make sure you have enough total RAM. Otherwise, that should be fine.

[nocturne vessel]

my mmc4 file i got from this atlauncher server

[tranquil solstice]

I can't see any reason for that high RAM usage with 0 players. You could either try to set it up fresh, or I'd say something is weird with the server host.

[nocturne vessel]

so no solution?🥲

[slender dew]

can i disable trust manager? takes a lot of time to start servers

[tranquil solstice]

At least not from me, sadly. I checked my own log files, I have pretty much the same errors as your log file, except the "Incorrect key" errors of which you have like a thousand. I don't know what's causing them or if they are relevant regarding the memory leak though.

[minor juniper]

Does anyone else get the crash where it says "this sprites is null"

i cant find any solution for it

[nocturne vessel]

Medieval MC 4 - v35 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v35
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash-2025-09-09_00.11.45-client.txt | atlauncher.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Added mods:
botarium-forge-1.20.1-2.3.4.jar
create-1.20.1-6.0.6.jar
create-new-age-forge-1.20.1-1.1.4.jar
createaddition-1.20.1-1.3.2.jar
offlineskins-1.20.1-v1.jar
sophisticatedbackpacks-1.20.1-3.24.2.1339.jar
sophisticatedcore-1.20.1-1.2.86.1132.jar
worldedit-mod-7.2.15.jar

lol first time crash single player

[minor juniper]

also theres a bug where it seems the pink filter the sirens turn on when you go near them can attach to a player

[slender dew]

help

everything is black without shaders

and with shader dh chunks not loading

[nocturne vessel]

what best skill

[deft wraith]

is there a way to transport the end portal to a different location, just for convenience's sake

[toxic plinth]

!best

[waxen brook]

There is no best, it's based on preference. What's best is to try it out yourself as what you like may be something someone else dislikes.

[prime linden]

Hi guys want to ask your opinion weich ist the best medieval minecraft modpack ? Is mmc5 your Favorit? Oder another and why?

[lilac helm]

Put a waystone at the End Portal

[agile blade]

im getting ready for ender dragon and i have almost 5k mana

and the MOST expensive spells are eldritch with 500 mana~

and i regen like 250 mana per second

in MMC5 at least

idk bout mmc4

[lilac helm]

As long as you have good supporting gear that'll provide enough armor and spell power you're more than set

[feral canyon]

i died and i cant find my waypoint

like my grave

cant find it

[vital comet]

!best

[waxen brook]

There is no best, it's based on preference. What's best is to try it out yourself as what you like may be something someone else dislikes.

[remote mural]

Ye

[fluid sage]

Soft-Ban Result:

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natafuido [468884548672028673]

[past leaf]

Arlliiighttyy. Gotta support question mine fellows. Hopefully a painless one 🙂

0. The ModPack I'm using is actually the Dark Fantasy modpack made as a lighter version of the Medieval MC mod.

1. The Minecraft Version I'm using is 1.20.1

2. The launcher* is Curseforge

3. I haven't altered the modpack, it's baseline.

4. I'm running the version known as V2, for Minecraft Version 1.20.1

5. The problem I'm running into is that as certain chunks load in, there seems to be blocks, structures, or textures that load improperly, showing up as purple and black blocks, before crashing. Sometimes it crashes instantly, and sometimes it stays there, before other blocks in the world start to glitch (disappearing entirely or appearing as purple and black blocks)

6. I have the full Crash Log*. This is the inital crash report: The game crashed: tessellating block model - indigo renderer
   Error: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Cannot get property null as it does not exist in Block{minecraft:glass_pane}

7. I also have the absolute Full Crash Report which I will post below.

[outer hollow]

Uploaded message.txt from @past leaf to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/YZoUxZN

[polar rapids]

Better MC 4 - v47 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? CurseForge
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? No, just added some mods
4. v47
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? always
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash-2025-09-08_18.47.04-client.txt | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | i7-13700k can be reason of crash

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

33 added, 1 removed, 7 updated.

[forest wharf]

a. wrong channel b. update to v48 c.

!modified

[waxen brook]

You are using a modified version of the modpack! This channel is only for unmodified versions that we provide. We cannot guarantee that the modpack works after you do modifications, so please go to #1061339968691257466 if you need help with an issue.

If this is a bug, please make sure to test it in an unmodified version before trying to report it.

[gusty patrol]

Is the Warden Helmet & Warden Leggings recipe missing? There doesn't seem to be a way to craft it.

[gusty patrol]

Also not getting quest credit for meeting a Skulk Snapper

[hushed viper]

anyone know the gamerule in commands to turn off pet friendly fire?

[remote mural]

How do I upgrade my relics

I’m clicking the level up button but nothings happening

[hushed viper]

in this case how would i make the revenant summons not friendly fire?

[hushed viper]

so i found a way to, but now the summons won't scale with the skill points i put in the passive skill tree for medieval minecraft. anyway to fix this?

[vital comet]

Hey how do I make it so my world loads faster? Cause my laptop can handle even 64 chunks loaded but when i fly to new lands i need to take breaks for world to load

[nocturne vessel]

fresh 6gb lol

ugh if like this how i can play with my friend

[dark beacon]

Medieval MC 5 - v25 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.21.1 [NEOFORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? CurseForge
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? No
4. v25
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? It is a specific zone in the mountains
6. What steps cause the crash? Coming close to a dungeon in the high mountains biome. Now i cannot even open the map because it directly crashes

latest.log | debug.log | crash-2025-09-09_10.31.22-client.txt | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Removed mods:
additionalentityattributes-neoforge-2.0.0+1.21.1.jar

[slender dew]

is there a way to easily update modpacks (talking about serverside) ?

[icy remnant]

Hey- so, I've run into a minor problem with the Medieval Mc mod pack but I noticed this channel is mostly crash reports. Do I still ask about it here or is there somewhere else?

I'm putting it here anyways

The ui overlaps, is there a way to fix this?

It's the demon origin

[nocturne vessel]

@tranquil solstice oh i try new mmc4 i got better ram

[vocal root]

Anyone know a way to disable the offhand attack with iron spells staffs? I already tried blacklisting every single "item_id_regex" in the fallback_compatibility.json of better combat and that didn't work. I'm on MMC4 v35

[nocturne vessel]

lol got fix it i can exploring now @tranquil solstice

[cerulean magnet]

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[fluid sage]

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[past beacon]

Hello guys,
How can i update Medival Mc 1.20.1 Forge? For now i have veserion v31, but i want this new V36 and save my worlds😅
I use crystal launcher

[fluid sage]

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[molten vigil]

Energy should be disabled, how did you install the modpack?

[molten vigil]

That should be the right way to do it, send the json you're trying to use

[molten vigil]

The best way is to just copy your world folder and any changes you've made into a fresh install of the new version

[molten vigil]

Update the Ice and Fire Community Edition mod

[slender dew]

Can I keep the old config folder I have done a few changes there

[molten vigil]

love to hear it. AllTheLeaks has definitely made some big improvements, and now also has a feature to track memory leaks. Ping me if you run into future issues

[molten vigil]

You should almost always use the new version's config folder, and try to copy your changes over

[slender dew]

Ok sure

[nocturne vessel]

Alright

[icy remnant]

Just installed it on the app- i didn't know there were different ways to install it.

[molten vigil]

Curseforge app?

[icy remnant]

Yes

[molten vigil]

ah, which modpack version, is that MMC3?

[icy remnant]

2, actually

It was sent to me as a link from a friend

[molten vigil]

I see, I think you can either disable Survive Energy, or move the location of the power resource bars in the apoli-client config

but honestly, I would just recommend playing MMC4 or MMC5 instead

[icy remnant]

Was about to ask that

Alright, I wasn't far in anyways

Thank you for the help

[lament ledge]

This seems fun

[tranquil solstice]

That's great! Glad you can have fun with the modpack now, too :D

[molten vigil]

It loads in the other screenshot but not this one?

Is the bug only for specific spell books?

[lament ledge]

well i only have one spell book, i can check others. It only shows the error message if i over over the resulted spell book on the right side.

once i do it changes the image to the red letters

[abstract egret]

is there any mod that makes it so crossbows could have infinity too? only seem some for fabric but not forge

[vocal root]

Here is the json file I was using. I removed a lot of the "item id redex", but this is the format I was using.

[spring drum]

was v36 supposed to be v26? and also any clue as to when it comes out on curseforge?

[molten vigil]

It’s out, v36 is for 1.20.1 which is MMC4

MMC5/1.21.1 will have a v26 most likely today

[spring drum]

OH

[molten vigil]

On 1.21.1 you can just do this with tags

[spring drum]

that makes sense

[fluid sage]

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[lapis pelican]

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[fluid sage]

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[zealous yacht]

Can anyone explain to me the difference between magic power and spell power?

[meager totem]

How can i disable the auto chunk push function ?

[vocal root]

Honestly, no idea. I tested magic power in an earlier version of MMC4 and it didn't effect damage from iron's, so I just went with spell power on everything. I didn't really use other magic except for utility in that playthrough so I have no idea if it effects damage from the other magic mods like wizards or ars. Worth it to mess around in creative to test it if you have the time

[zealous yacht]

I suspected that might be the case. But just wanted to be sure

[fluid sage]

Soft-Ban Result:

Reason: compromised account
Moderator: @molten vigil

Banned:

solomotore_10091 [1185981082580045857]

[nocturne vessel]

how to roll name affix item ?

[vital comet]

Is the 10GB RAM reccomended the minimum? i mean would it help with performance a lot if i had more RAM allocated to it?

[nocturne vessel]

!fps

[waxen brook]

https://wiki.lunapixel.gg/performance-guide

[nocturne vessel]

i use 10gb ram my fps 120+ without shader if use shader 50-60fps

[vital comet]

Hmm my game keeps getting some frame drops

[nocturne vessel]

try this then

[vital comet]

Also idk what this means

[nocturne vessel]

what mmc u use

[vital comet]

4

[nocturne vessel]

is that new version right

[vital comet]

Yup

[nocturne vessel]

fresh mmc4 or u add some mod

[vital comet]

Just the one from forge, didnt do anything to it

[nova sapphire]

Heyo, I am playing mmc4.

I just made a celestial forge but I am worried it might be a waste since my skills don't apply to celestial weapons

And I specced alot into stat boosting on my skill tree to get better stats in making gear

I already have a Ice Dragonsteel Halberd, so I am wondering if I am missing something

[nova sapphire]

Also any suggestions on bows/arrows?

[nocturne vessel]

what command for fast lv up skill tree

[ruby grotto]

is there a "guide" for medieval mc other than the quest book?

[slender dew]

is there a config i need to change

[spark cape]

Can somebody help me please with the Ghost Steel Ingot? in medieval modpack

[tranquil solstice]

If you're referring to EEEAB's ghost steel, that's not implemented by the mod itself yet.

[lilac helm]

I actually have Ghost Steel as one of the gear sets for the Esoteric bosses

[tranquil solstice]

It's completely useable, just not obtainable in Survival :)

[spark cape]

So why there is a recipe then? 👀

[lilac helm]

Again, not fully implemented
The recipe just exists for a time when it may be obtainable

[spark cape]

Aw oke. Another question though. Been trying for weeks to find an ancienty city. Any way to lead me to it?

I tried with maps, but when I use maps from cartographer it just says "Searching" and nothing

[tranquil solstice]

You can use the Nature's Compass to locate the closest Deep Dark biome. Using the compass from different locations in the world will lead you to different Deep Dark biomes, until you find one with an Ancient City.

[spark cape]

Thanks!

[fringe crow]

I'm running Medieval MC Forge MMC4 v35 1.20.1 on my server and for some reason this keeps being absolutely spammed into the console and lags my server even though I pregenrated 1,000,000 chunks for a solid 2 days:

Just mentioning the pregen because I wonder why it's solving this now and not during the pregen. Coords are covered by the pregen. No mods despite the ones from MMC and Forge Chunk Pregen

Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1135, y=65, z=853}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1223, y=67, z=833}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1111, y=-16, z=935}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1110, y=-16, z=936}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1110, y=-16, z=935}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1110, y=-16, z=935}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1097, y=-15, z=950}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1097, y=-14, z=950}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1058, y=-12, z=913}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1146, y=63, z=847}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1165, y=-23, z=762}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1216, y=75, z=939}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1111, y=-16, z=935}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1111, y=-16, z=934}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1033, y=62, z=815}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1109, y=-17, z=935}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1183, y=69, z=772}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1057, y=-12, z=913}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1057, y=-13, z=913}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1053, y=65, z=876}
Discarding Blocks BlockPos{x=1110, y=-16, z=935}

Anyone have an idea?

[molten vigil]

This should be fixed in v36

[molten vigil]

Can you do /atl force_refresh and send a screenshot of that

[fringe crow]

😭

my poor world pregen

anyway thank u 🫡

[vital comet]

Oh oki ill do it later cause opening the game takes to long hehe

[molten vigil]

Have you followed the #faq performance guide?

[vital comet]

Ye but idk what happened after the update, i had it working mostly stable and could even go for 64 chunks render when i needed it even forgetting i have it so far but now i keep getting frames drop

[molten vigil]

Do that next time you start to lag as well, let me know

[vital comet]

Oki

Whats most important spec of pc for the better performance?

[vital comet]

It still lags from time to time but when i do the command it shows same thing as before

[spare swallow]

I have the same problem
I am a Revenant in SP

[zenith trail]

I dont know how to solve the problem, we change the modpack

[hushed viper]

why was shields reforged removed?

hope they add another parry mod

[vital comet]

Oh now i got something

[wheat sinew]

Is there a way for moon elf to sleep at all? Also is there any other way for dwarves to see in the daytime other than a golden helmet ?

[random pike]

dwarves question: Mirror enchantment on helmets

[nocturne vessel]

why i not can craft salvaging table

[spare swallow]

What Minecraft version are you using? (1.19.2, 1.20.1, ...): 1.20.1
What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) CurseForge
Have you changed the modpack in any way? (e.g. changing mod versions, adding/removing mods) No
What version of the modpack are you using? (v11, v9, etc) V36
Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? No
What steps cause the crash? Eating bone for the Revenant

[tranquil solstice]

In the screenshot you didn't put the pick and the axe into the crafting grid.

[nocturne vessel]

oh right i so dumb

[tranquil solstice]

It's okay XD

[lethal blade]

anyone have a clue on how to fix this? is MMC5 last version from curseforge and serverside is the last version aswell that just updated today

1.21.1

[obsidian vapor]

hi, how to play fear nightfall with a friend

[tranquil solstice]

You'll probably get more help in #fear-nightfall

[nocturne vessel]

can i ask i try this enchant table and all bookself eternal ?

no quanta or arcana ?

[tranquil solstice]

Do you want only eterna, or are you asking how to get Quanta and Arcana?

[nocturne vessel]

yes

[tranquil solstice]

Basic bookshelves give only Eterna, but when you get special bookshelves like Sea Shelves, Hell Shelves, Deepshelves etc, then those also add Quanta and Arcana. For Quanta you could also get a Beeshelf I believe.
In the beginning you can also use skeleton/wither skeleton skulls for some Quanta, and candles for some Arcana I think.

When you type "quanta" or "arcana" into JEI, it should show all items that add those.

[tranquil solstice]

If a restart of server and client doesn't fix it I would manually confirm that both sides are indeed using the same mod version.

[lethal blade]

i did reinstall the whole server clean and the curseforge modpack its starting rn

[nocturne vessel]

oh and yea what is arcana eterna dan quanta ?

[lethal blade]

yeah clean install of both and still having the same issue

[tranquil solstice]

Eterna increases the maximum enchantment level that you can get.
Quanta adds a range to the outcome (basically a chance to get +X levels on enchantments or -X levels on enchantments)
Arcana increases the likelihood to get rare enchantments.

[tranquil solstice]

Please send the latest.log.

[lethal blade]

from the server or client?

[tranquil solstice]

Let's start with client.

[nocturne vessel]

so to have much op enchant i should make all that full ?

[tranquil solstice]

Yes, the more the merrier.

[outer hollow]

Uploaded 2025-09-11-4.log.gz from @lethal blade to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/HdGLe2q

[nocturne vessel]

so like this already good ?

[tranquil solstice]

That's pretty good, yes.

[nocturne vessel]

is there way to unenchant bad enchant like life mending

[tranquil solstice]

Prismatic Web on an anvil removes curses like Life Mending.

[tranquil solstice]

Hmm, please also server-sided latest.log. I hope that says a bit more than this one.

[nocturne vessel]

ty

[outer hollow]

Uploaded latest.log from @lethal blade to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/nOT3NJK

[nocturne vessel]

is there way to unenchant all enchant to ? @tranquil solstice

[tranquil solstice]

If you just want to get rid of them, use a grindstone. If you want to extract the enchantments onto a book, you can use a tome of superior scrapping (destroys the item) or a tome of extraction (keeps the item).

[nocturne vessel]

oh right i forget about grindstone

[tranquil solstice]

It looks like you didn't try to connect in this log file. Maybe the log file before that then.

[lethal blade]

oh , the server delete those but i can log again tho , gime a moment

[tranquil solstice]

Alrighty.

[nocturne vessel]

if use that web is there chance weapon got destruct ?

my weapon gone ...

[tranquil solstice]

Nah, the Prismatic Web doesn't destroy the item.

Would be pointless to "remove curses" when the entire item is removed ;)

[nocturne vessel]

then how can my weapon gone...

[tranquil solstice]

I don't know o.O Did the anvil break?

[nocturne vessel]

nope

[outer hollow]

Uploaded latest_2.log from @lethal blade to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/G5nxzF7

[tranquil solstice]

Ah. Here it say "Incompatible client! Please use NeoForge 21.1.208". Which forge version is your client using?

[tranquil solstice]

Hmmm.

🤔

[lethal blade]

server is in 21.1.208 too

so my guess is that mods are missmatched on the new V26 update or smth

[tranquil solstice]

Maybe, though usually the log would specify the mods and not say the forge version is wrong. Unless 1.21.1 is different in that regard. If you want you can compare the \mods folders on server and client though.

[minor juniper]

The server files havent updated then i presume

[nocturne vessel]

what diffrent magic power and spell power ?

[tranquil solstice]

Magic power influences your Ars Nouveau spells, Spell power influences your Iron's spells.

[lean flare]

for reference

Medieval MC 5 - v26 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.21.1 [NEOFORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) FTB
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? no
4. v26
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash? Killed the Sandworm

latest.log head / tail (~50MB & ~401k lines) | debug.log head / tail (~61MB & ~453k lines) | crash-2025-09-11_11.39.44-server.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Removed mods:
additionalentityattributes-neoforge-2.0.0+1.21.1.jar

Updated mods:
iceandfire (2.0-beta.5 > (2.0-beta.4, 2.0-beta.5))

[tranquil solstice]

It looks like you updated Ice and Fire, which the Sandworm belongs to. Does it also crash when you use the intended modpack version of the mod, 2.0-beta.5?

Actually, you have both versions in your mods folder?

Remove the 2.0-beta.4 file and try again.

[lean flare]

oh you know what, I had an issue last wek with the Siren and getting stuck in the Pink overlay, tried updating to the latest version of Ice and Fire, and ultimately had to remove it altogether then ;launch to reset, the put it back in and relaunch again to get back to normal. Just updating the whole pack again today and it must have put the beta file back in

but when i loggged back in the sandworm kill registered and no crash, but ill take the beta mod out

[cursive dome]

are there any mods that are similar to origins available for mmc5?

[molten vigil]

from where did you download the serverpack?

[molten vigil]

Report this to the developers of Bosses’Rise please

you should be able to fix the crash just by removing the mod and re-adding it, though that will remove everything from Bosses’Rise

[lethal blade]

from the button besides the play button

[lean flare]

thankfully the crash didn't seem to persist from the Sandworm, but now im getting repeated crashes from something ticking

[outer hollow]

Uploaded latest.log from @lean flare to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/9TTFI1B

[lethal blade]

btw is giving me the same error screen on V25 i dont know what im doing wrong

[forest wharf]

download server pack from cf site not the app

[lethal blade]

well imma try that

from here right?

[forest wharf]

ya

[lethal blade]

tryed in V25 and v26 fron the cf site , neoforge 21.1.208 , i dotn know what im doing wrong

is driving me crazy been couple hours trying to figure it out

its the first server im setting up so is probably my fault

[molten vigil]

How are you running the serverpack?

[lethal blade]

these are the steps ive done , downloaded the .zip then pasted inside mod folder in my server folders then start the server

[molten vigil]

you pasted the serverpack zip inside the mod folder of your "server folders"...?

[lethal blade]

yeah

[molten vigil]

just unzip the serverpack and run the start.bat

or if you want to use some other server launcher, copy everything from inside the serverpack (config, mods, defaultconfigs, etc.) to the same place in your server install

[lethal blade]

so i was just dumb? damn
tyvm for help i almost sat on a corner to cry

[lethal blade]

one last question , if i want to update the modpack , for example from v25 to v26 i have to replace all the things like config or just the MODS

[molten vigil]

definitely recommend replacing everything except your world folder between updates

[spare swallow]

no?

[molten vigil]

Can you send the latest.log please

from the server

[spare swallow]

It's SP
Let me open it and recreate the crash, just a moment (thank you

[lethal blade]

tyvm ❤️

[spare swallow]

@molten vigil

[outer hollow]

Uploaded latest.log from @spare swallow to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/AcoLyEF

[molten vigil]

Looks like a conflict with either Survive or Iron's Spellbooks

you could try removing one at a time, we'll take a look at it for next update though

[spare swallow]

Really thank you for your time, and the patience for my english

[bronze atlas]

does anyone know if Tom's Simple Storage allows for multiple storage terminals on one system because I've been messing with it for a while and whenever I attach a second terminal to the network it takes over as the working one and the original no longer functions

[vocal root]

Just wanted to bump this to see if there's any fix for iron spells staffs still swinging in offhand. The JSON doesn't seem to work for iron's and some simply swords weapons

[molten vigil]

!ca

[waxen brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/790272038047711242/1375810186874196110/CrashAssist-LPS.mp4?ex=68330a95&is=6831b915&hm=68c0bddf943097262cc458d39b32b664cc2f09188760268ef87f62de24e111df&

[molten vigil]

follow the steps in the video the bot posted

[fluid sage]

Quarantine Result:

Reason: tlauncher
Moderator: @forest wharf

Quarantined:

zuhkkkk [811665078596272159]

[visual sky]

Hallo guys i have a question is there a way to get the copper golem ?

[cursive dome]

im new to using modpacks, for mmc5 v26 i have 8 mods still not up to date is that because of compatibility or did i just not update fully

[molten vigil]

yeah there are almost always mods that don't get updated to their latest version

that sounds about right

[molten vigil]

yeah, you need a copper block, pumpkin, and lightning rod

they're mostly cosmetic though, the chest opening feature isn't backported

[visual sky]

ah okay thank you

[cursive dome]

thank you so much

[wheat sinew]

How does one get thr Mirroring enchantment?

[zinc reef]

Im playing MMC5 and I just got into a fight with some Ice and Fire sirens, but my screen is still pink LONG after they died, and LONG after I myself died. Im worried this is permanent and I'm not sure how to fix it

I think the cause of the bug was due to me wearing an active cow backpack which negated the lure effect but didn't correctly remove the pink tint

however now I can't seem to be affected by the lure regardless of the bag being off or on

Is there some command or some shit I could use to fix this?

And before anyone asks, I do not have a backup from before the bug occured

[nocturne vessel]

how to make my friend summon not attack me

[upper ermine]

After update MMC5 v25 to v26, my world gonna randomly crash, idk why

[wanton oak]

when you crash a white screen with text appears

in that screen press upload all and copy

and then paste here

the bit you sent is not enough

[upper ermine]

Only my world crash, I am thrown into the main menu with the message “Neruina caught an exception”. Before this there was a crash, I can try to download its logs. Sorry for the translator

Mb world get corrupted after crash ?

[sullen kelp]

Helloo
Since I updated my server with MMC4 (forge) from v35 to the v36, all the mob spawning in the overworld are lvl 4 (expect bosses and dragons) and I'm lvl 45 (mob were lvl 45 before the update)
Do someone kown if this can be solved?
Thanks in advance😁

[nocturne vessel]

mmc4 new version got glitch or what i right click this hammer place torch i dont have torch

@molten vigil

[toxic plinth]

It consumes durability to do so.
Also, please do not ping staff unless it's really important, especially devs.

[nocturne vessel]

he say ping her if have issue so

[nocturne vessel]

if u right click that hammer place torch not animated skill like usual

[toxic plinth]

The AoE damage ability is overriding the torch placement.

Forgot the AoE part on the hammer

[nocturne vessel]

huh so that got change

[vital comet]

Which boss is the strongest?

[fringe crow]

is there a way to make armor unbreakable in mmc4?

(apart from mending)

[lilac helm]

Eternal Stella

[molten vigil]

Can you send the latest.log file from the logs folder?

[upper ermine]

i delete neruina and it's no crash more

[tranquil solstice]

The level cap depends on your own level (for example, enderman are capped at lvl 100 for me), but it's lower on v36 than it was on v35, yes.

Interesting. The max level didn't actually change in the datapack (it was set to 100 in v35 as well), but instead of a .zip it's now a normal folder. Perhaps it's only now working as a limit because of that.

[jade fern]

Hello im playing Medieval MC MMC5 on neoforge and i killed a siren now my screen is stuck pink i tried respawning, reset my server, moved around resource packs, not sure what else to do can some please help?

[zinc reef]

I'm having the exact same issue, did you have some item that was negating debuffs by chance?

Im also waiting on someone with a solution, but if we can determine the cause, we could prevent it in the future until Ice and Fire fix their shit

My only thought on a potential fix would be to remove Ice and Fire and reinstall it

though im not sure how to do that through Curseforge

[jade fern]

i learned how to fix it

gom into configs iceandfire client and turn siren overlay off its called screen or overlay or somethin youll know just change it to false

[lament ledge]

i play single player?

[molten vigil]

Sounds like the level-based scaling may have broken somehow, I’ll take a look at it

[jade fern]

is creating speelbooks from caster tomes possible ive found spawned ones and i had a really good one but lost it due to a glitch but i donht know how to recreate it.

[zinc reef]

thank you, I will go try this, what's the filepath for that

nevermind I think I found the files

@jade fern worked like a treat, thank god, and thank you

[jade fern]

you welcome if you find a ars nouveau tomb with the word blink in the name and it teleports you please let me know

[zinc reef]

Will do, Ill keep that in mind

[desert pulsar]

Is there no sophisticated storage or iron chests in this pack?

[tight coral]

This weird Minecolonies glitch keeps getting stranger and stranger.

[vital comet]

Two things i wanted to ask, how do you upgrade walls in minecolonies? and also how do you get better rockets (if there are) that dont run out so fast

[tight coral]

Rockets? You mean the firework rockets?

[vital comet]

Ye, for elytra

[tight coral]

To make them go more, you have to put more gunpowder in the recipe, up to three gunpowder and one paper for a stage three rocket.

[vital comet]

Oh oki

[vital comet]

Lil warning for everyone, Reflecting necklace can kill visitors

[upper ermine]

I create new world, reinstall modpack and it still randomly crash :(
Medieval MC 5 - v26 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
1.21.1 [NEOFORGE] MMC5 v26

latest.log | debug.log head / tail (~13MB & ~64k lines) | crash-2025-09-13_19.23.28-client.txt | PrismLauncher-0.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Removed mods:
additionalentityattributes-neoforge-2.0.0+1.21.1.jar
neruina-3.0.3+1.21.1-neoforge.jar

[tranquil solstice]

Oopsie doopsie. I put the autoleveling back into a .zip as it was in v35 to see what happens, and now Endermen are a little crazy.

It seems the author of the spell scroll textures forgot the Aqua scroll. It has the old texture still and looks a little out of place now.

(Oh, and Sound scrolls, too).

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, I had to revert it back though. Mobs should be below level 180 so that you can't easily farm esoteric affix items.

[lilac helm]

Oh that's probably because the new resource pack that got added doesn't support the schools of other mods by default

[tranquil solstice]

Ahh, I see. Didn't know that Aqua and Sound aren't from the base mod.

[lilac helm]

Well for now it's even easier since one of the affixes I added can increase the chance further, but yeah all mobs being qualified to drop them is a serious problem

I wonder if this somehow got caused from the health fix implement

[molten vigil]

well

[tranquil solstice]

The high level was me messing with the file structure, so it's not a problem for other players.

[molten vigil]

let me take another look at what the hell i did

[tranquil solstice]

For others it's just too low now x)

[lilac helm]

As for me, I'm sick again but it's just a normal cold now

[tranquil solstice]

Sigh. Get well soon!

Again!

[molten vigil]

oh, well

somehow I just straight up deleted the player-based leveling

probably because I was porting over improvements from Otherworld which doesn't have player-based leveling

[tranquil solstice]

I'm glad it's not more complicated than that.

[molten vigil]

whatever you did probably somehow reset the autoleveling scaling settings to default

[tranquil solstice]

I just put the auto-leveling datapack back into a .zip 😭

In v35 it was a .zip and in v36 it's a normal folder, I'm not sure if that's intentional but it surely has an impact XD

[molten vigil]

It is definitely intentional, it actually should make zero difference in functionality

the folder is just easier to edit

[tranquil solstice]

That's... interesting.

[lilac helm]

Oh yeah folders are infinitely easier to edit

Gotta package them into .zip folders though to send through Discord

[tranquil solstice]

@molten vigil May I ask if an attempt was made to fix Alshanex's Familiars in this update or do I not need to bother testing it again?

[molten vigil]

I didn't make any patches to it, what's the issue?

[tranquil solstice]

You cannot bind any familiar to their respective trinket, and while you can store a familiar in a "Familiar Tome", upon releasing it from the tome it just vanishes out of existence.

[lilac helm]

I mean I've seen similar issues with Apotheosis's Ender Leads in 1.21 where if you don't release the stored mob shortly after it'll just vanish from existence

Have you tried the forceloading the chunk method yet?

[tranquil solstice]

I haven't come across another familiar yet :/

[lilac helm]

Mmm I see

[elfin dune]

Hi i want to play mmc but start wondering which i should play MMC4 or MMC5. I really don't care about thing in 1.20 or 1.21 so i care about only modpack. Can you recommend me which one?

[tranquil solstice]

I'd say MMC4, but I'm biased 🤷‍♂️

[vital comet]

?

[lament ledge]

how can i respawn dead king?

i killed many of the bosses but out of order and now i cant get credit for them

[tranquil solstice]

The boss from Iron's Spells? I don't think you can respawn him, but you can just find another catacombs?

[lilac helm]

^

Always try to complete objectives in the order given

[molten vigil]

Challenge Orb will respawn the whole structure, including the king

[fringe crow]

how do you manage to get "ancient" rarity items or better? the mods in my overworld, even couple thousand blocks out, are all low level

ah nvm found the config

[tranquil solstice]

You could go to other dimensions, too.

[lilac helm]

Yeah that's the intention of Ancient items

[fringe crow]

so i am more likely to encounter higher level mobs there? will do 🫡

[tranquil solstice]

In the Nether you will frequently find Epic (purply) rarity items, and in the End you will frequently find Godforged and Ancient rarity items.

Above ancient are both in Nether and End, a little less frequent.

[fringe crow]

very good to know, thank you very much

[lament ledge]

the mapping mod for mmc5 is superior to mmc4

[molten vigil]

You can update the mod “Medieval” to 2.0.1, that should fix it

[molten vigil]

They’re both JourneyMap but yeah the new version is quite nice

[lament ledge]

ive tried all of them so far - and the neoforge mmc5 seems to be my favorite - i think it has more features other than origin - which, for me, i can forego

[lilac helm]

It do be like that, 1.21 has a very limited amount of mods but they each seem to be much higher quality than their 1.20.1 versions

[lament ledge]

is that what mmc 5 is. 1.21?

[lilac helm]

Yeah

[lament ledge]

So is fabric version

[lilac helm]

And MMC4 is 1.20.1

[lament ledge]

but, seems to be..limited..

MCMM3 is MUCH faster

[lilac helm]

1.20.1 and 1.21.1 benefit from a mod called Sinytra Connector that allows you to run various Fabric mods on Forge

[lament ledge]

like - significantly faster

[lilac helm]

Forge tends to be gear and mechanic heavy and significantly change the game, while Fabric tends to be more vanilla+ orientated and adds little bits of additional content here and there

Ofc there are some exceptions

Fabric has some mods that I wish worked on Forge, but there are many more Forge mods that I wish worked on Fabric

Yeah

[nova sapphire]

Heyo, I am playing mmc4.

I just made a celestial forge but I am worried it might be a waste since my skills don't apply to celestial weapons
And I specced alot into stat boosting on my skill tree to get better stats in making gear
I already have a Ice Dragonsteel Halberd, so I am wondering if I am missing something

[tight coral]

Eyy, I also got an Ice Dragonsteel weapon, but mine is the greatsword.

[nova sapphire]

I like the greatsword but value the reach alot more, especially for bossing

[tight coral]

I like the reach too, but at this point I can tank most of the hits with my armor, so I can get up close and do some real damage. I also have healing and reinforcement spells, and a spell I can use to avoid damage for a few seconds.

[tranquil solstice]

If I understood cHin correctly, skill tree bonuses should apply to Celestisynth weapons as long as you craft them after getting the skill tree passives.

[nova sapphire]

I haven't gotten any of the buffs

it is just base solaris I made

with no skill tree additions

[lilac helm]

Yeah you got to get the skills first and THEN craft the weapon

[nova sapphire]

Yes, I have the skills

and then used the forge to craft the weapon

but it doesn't have buffs

[lilac helm]

aight I'ma boot up MMC4

gimme like 15 minutes to prep myself and then I'll test this out

Who was saying earlier that the pixel didn't load all the way

[tranquil solstice]

Did you update to v36? It only works for me since the update.

[lilac helm]

Ye I did

[tranquil solstice]

Didn't work on v35 ;)

[lilac helm]

Anyways gotta make a new world

Creative ofc so that I can figure this out

[tranquil solstice]

Gl!

[lilac helm]

Just need to figure out how to charge this

(what item goes in the rightmost slot?)

Ok I found it

Alas it did not get the upgraded buffs

[nova sapphire]

Called it ween

[lilac helm]

It did not used to be like this

[nova sapphire]

something must of broke in an update then

[lilac helm]

[molten vigil]

oh, I guess we need to patch this new crafting menu

we had to patch the old one manually too, but the celestisynth devs said the new Starlit Factory was already compatible with passive skill tree and I just never fact-checked that

[molten vigil]

most important v36 fix

[nova sapphire]

Is it also intended for 2 nethrite monstronsities to spawn

cause everytime I am in the nether, and find the structure

there are always 2 of them

one of them are lvl 80 where as the other one actually has level scaling

[lilac helm]

Welp I've got to hop off for tonight

For the record, I haven't been having any structures self regen on me like in v35

[nova sapphire]

Also is there any way to ramp up to scaling/difficulty?

I feel like it is too easy to just speed run into the nether and make most of the overworld and other dimension content too easy

[lilac helm]

Well there are 3 main ways you can up difficulty

1. You can go into config/paxi/mmc_autoleveling and up all the levels of mobs from there

2. You can go into the autoleveling config and increase the stat gains per level

3. Update Medieval to 2.0.1 and then in the Medieval config, up the amount of points per skill tree level to be higher

[nova sapphire]

I think I'll true fiddlying with the first 2

since nether also just gives alot of xp

The funiest part is how little you need to make the nether easy, just getting say iron tools and armor and your good to go

then hunt down towers and netherforts

and maybe if your lucky, find the monstroity structure and just sneakily grab all the netherite

[lilac helm]

Nothing beats the gems and affixes you'll find
Seriously, just set up a mob farm and you'll be golden

Used to be able to get the Augmenting Table rather easily too but uh... I made sure to make it much harder to get

Now you pretty much have to go to Otherside or the End to get it now

Sigil recipe is unchanged though so once you get the Ancient item to convert you can harnest its power easily

Now I really gotta go

[lament ledge]

the nerve of some people!

[lilac helm]

Well this doesn't apply to you in MMC5 (mainly cause there is no Ancient rarity)

[lament ledge]

Anyone know the problem?

[tranquil solstice]

I don't play MMC5, but muon mentioned a while ago that he considers [disabling](#medieval-mc-forge message) the sort-buttons. Perhaps it has something to do with that. If not, then it'd probably help to see the logs.

[lean dagger]

delete the clientsort-server config

restart your game

then go back to the config and set the thing at the top of the file from true to false

[zinc reef]

Medieval MC 5 - v25 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.21.1 [NEOFORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) CurseForge
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? I've altered the config for Ice and Fire to remove the Siren Shader, that is it.
4. v25
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? No, the game always crashes here.
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | debug.log head / tail (~36k lines) | crash-2025-09-13_23.38.35-client.txt | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Removed mods:
additionalentityattributes-neoforge-2.0.0+1.21.1.jar

[zinc reef]

Not really sure what to do at this point, not even sure what happened. I got close to some black rectangluar stone structure in the overworld, and suddenly everything wigged out

[molten vigil]

Update to v26

[zinc reef]

Gotcha, I'll try that. I guess I was just confused because the inciting incident for these crashes happened while I was playing. Didn't even know 26 was out. thanks for the tip

[molten vigil]

Yeah it’s a weird issue

[past leaf]

How does the autoleveling mod work for Medieval MC? Do the mobs only get stronger based on how far you travel? Or is it also tied to time or your own level?

[upper ermine]

Medieval MC 5 - v26 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.21.1 [NEOFORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? CurseForge
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? No
4. v26
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? Always
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | debug.log head / tail (~12MB & ~58k lines) | crash-2025-09-14_10.37.00-client.txt | PrismLauncher-0.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Mod list wasn't modified.

[upper ermine]

I just looked at my house and now I can’t load my save anymore

[molten vigil]

Try removing the mod “Gnetum”

[ocean zodiac]

Does anyone know how i can stop apotheotic bosses spawning inside my town? i have it covered with Mega torches but they still spawn, things like honeyed archers and death knights, also mutants, i tried via the config but the values dont seem to correlate to the actual game

[vital comet]

How do i upgrade wall?

Oh its bugged... who do i contact for maybe fixing it?

Cause it seems its only the original one thats glitched

[frigid spire]

Cant farm mobs and spawners drop elite items or higher, guys?

Can someone help me

Spawner only spam lv 20. How to increase it?

[nocturne vessel]

what best armor for this mod ?

[tight coral]

Uhhh I guess it depends, but currently I'm using a dragon scale armor I enchanted with various protections and mending.

[nocturne vessel]

yea i know if that i current use abbysal armor because i like ender magic to attack but i think i need better armor than this now

[tranquil solstice]

If you're playing MMC4, mob level from spawners depends on dimension and your own level. Place the spawner in the End to get higher levels.

[tranquil solstice]

Depends on your needs. Dragonsteel, Crimson, Tyr, Ignitium with integrated elytra, or the armor sets from traveloptics (T.O Magic).

[nocturne vessel]

what for magic then

[tranquil solstice]

Probably one of T.O Magic's sets.

Personally I'm using the Wraithguard armor.

[nocturne vessel]

ty

[nocturne vessel]

so my armor already good i using abyssal right now

[tranquil solstice]

I'm currently not ingame to see its stats, but if it's one of those sets, it's good.

If you reforge it to Ancient and add a bunch of gems to it, you should be pretty much unkillable for now.

[nocturne vessel]

what good gem for it ?

[tranquil solstice]

Lemme launch, then I can see which gems are pretty good in every case and don't just depend on your needs.

[nocturne vessel]

alr so ancient much better than esoteric ?

[tranquil solstice]

Esoteric may be better than Ancient, but it's very difficult to get. It would take forever to be able to reforge an entire set with Esoteric.

[lilac helm]

Yeah
Right now it's actually easier to get Esoteric but it still is fairly rare

[tranquil solstice]

@nocturne vessel These are the gems I'd deem useful in any scenario:
Helmet: Gem of the Royal Family (+15% to all stats)
Chestplate: Jewel of the Depths (+3.5% to all stats)
Chestplate: Gem of the Combatant (-27.5% physical dmg taken)
Leggings: Gem of the Combatant (-27.5% physical dmg taken)
Boots: Eye of the Ur-Ghast (+10% to all stats)

I also like the gems that give nice status effects like Monstrous (Jewel of the Cataclysm) or Reinforced (Soultwisted Jewel).

All the other gems more or less depend on your needs: more HP, more armor if defensive, more attack damage, more mana or cooldown reduction of offensive.

[tranquil solstice]

The reworked dimension hasn't been implemented yet tho, right?

[nocturne vessel]

alr i save it

[lilac helm]

Yeah, right now I'm doing all the gem and affix changes and then from there I'll balance out the Esoteric bosses accordingly

[tranquil solstice]

Alright :)

[nocturne vessel]

so i just need 1 one that gem and 2 socket depend what i need right

[tranquil solstice]

I'm sorry, what do you mean?

[nocturne vessel]

1 armor have 3 gems socket so if i use royal gem 1 slot and i have 2 slot free now

[lilac helm]

Yeah right now with Heirloom weaponry you can get x5 chance to Esoteric drop

[frigid spire]

But it not drop elite, right?....

[tranquil solstice]

Yes, you should get as many sockets as you can, and put gems into the empty sockets that I didn't list. For example, if you get 3 sockets on your helmet, you could put the Gem of the Royal Family, and then also maybe a Gem of the Warlord for attack damage and a Ruby for +10% max health.

[tranquil solstice]

I don't know what "elite" is. Perhaps you are playing MMC5 or mean something different?

[lilac helm]

Yeah what does elite mean?

[frigid spire]

The purple one

[tranquil solstice]

Oh, epic?

[lilac helm]

Oh

[tranquil solstice]

You get many of those in the Nether.

[frigid spire]

Ah ya

[lilac helm]

Yeah if MMC4

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah.

[lilac helm]

If MMC5 it's more complicated

[frigid spire]

I farm it to craft gems and spawners hardly drop it

[tranquil solstice]

Maybe let's clarify your version first.

Which modpack version are you playing?

[lilac helm]

Spawners will never drop affix items, unless the mob drops an item that can get affixed

[nocturne vessel]

max socket 3 right

[frigid spire]

On cursefore

[tranquil solstice]

For Ancient, the limit is 5 right now I believe. At least I got 5 on my pants.

[tranquil solstice]

Yes, my dear. But are you playing the 1.20.1 or the 1.21.1 version of Medieval Minecraft?

[frigid spire]

Mmc4 only 1.20. Is it 1.21?

[lilac helm]

4 now, I changed that

[tranquil solstice]

MMC4 is 1.201. MMC5 is 1.21.1.

[tranquil solstice]

Glad it didn't delete one of my gems on my leggings.

[lilac helm]

Yeah it won't touch existing gear

5 is still the max limit on the best gear

[frigid spire]

Can I change the egg to spawn those things? 🥺

[lilac helm]

Uh yeah you should
Get it from a mob that can drop tools, such as a Mimic from the Aether

[frigid spire]

OKAAAYYY

[lilac helm]

And that still just reminded me now

Ancient is still rigged as the best rarity before Esoteric because you can reforge anything with Ancient but you can't reforge anything with Artifact or Heirloom until after you get a Galactic Core (Esoteric material)

[frigid spire]

Well then I need to find that ench line. What about deep dark mobs?

[lilac helm]

uh

Don't think any of them drop tools

[frigid spire]

I quit playing for a while mmc4 now playing again, they are eliminated....?

[nocturne vessel]

ban this

[lilac helm]

?
What do you mean?

[tranquil solstice]

Me confused. Is this MMC5 or did you change something?

[frigid spire]

@lilac helm Old version of mm4, mobs in deep dark still drop things like aff

[lilac helm]

... I forgot again.

Just MMC5 I believe then

[nocturne vessel]

what effect deepsight give ? and resilense

[tranquil solstice]

It grants better vision underwater.

[lilac helm]

I think it's just underwater vision

[tranquil solstice]

You can see farther.

[lilac helm]

And resilience is knockback resistance

[nocturne vessel]

bursting vitality ?

[lilac helm]

Healing

[tranquil solstice]

@frigid spire So, in MMC4: mobs from spawners can drop purply rarity items if their mob level is high enough. You can increase the mob level from spawner mobs by either placing the spawner in another dimension (Nether is higher than Overworld, End is higher than Nether), or by putting more skill points into your skill tree (which is the less good method since that makes all mobs more powerful).

Bursting Vitality increases the Healing Received, yes.

So it's only good if you have a high life-regeneration or other sources of self-heal.

[lilac helm]

Like Life Steal

[tranquil solstice]

Yep. Technically it should also work with spells, tho I haven't tested it.

[lilac helm]

I'ma see about making a new recipe for the Esoteric Table. I'm not going to change it too much from the original but having it require an Esoteric Core is kind of unreasonable, as it still makes Ancient the best rarity pre-Esoteric and having to turn your first Esoteric item into scraps just to craft the table is also kinda annoying

I'm going to scan JEI for the rarest materials to substitute

[nocturne vessel]

if both armor and pant have bursting vitality is that good or i should make diffrent one

[lilac helm]

Different one

Potion effects do not stack when it's the same affix on two different pieces of gear

[nocturne vessel]

what is warding

[lilac helm]

Magic Damage reduction

[tranquil solstice]

Only Ars Nouveau magic damage, or was that combined by now with Iron's?

[lilac helm]

Pretty sure it's all magic damage

Or well
Let me check

[tranquil solstice]

That'd be nice. So it's kinda the same as Spell Resistance?

Ay.

[frigid spire]

So no need for eggs to drop those. And if that's the case then it seems like nether mobs are not enough. It would be great if someone could give me a list of level dimensions. What about skill tree? What upgrade are you talking about?

[tranquil solstice]

One of the pinned messages contains the level requirements for specific rarity materials. What level are your mobs currently?

[frigid spire]

20

[tranquil solstice]

Well, you only need to get 25+ for purply.

[nocturne vessel]

what effect sugarrush and soulsteal

[tranquil solstice]

If 20 is in the Nether, you could either go to the End, or put some more points into your skill tree. The thing when you press K.

[frigid spire]

Oh i see that ghim e.e
What about the dimensions for each level?

[tranquil solstice]

Generally speaking Nether mobs are ~20 levels higher than overworld mobs, and End mobs are ~40 levels higher than overworld mobs. Gotta ask though: Are you on v35 or v36 of MMC4?

[frigid spire]

36 ofc

[tranquil solstice]

Sugar Rush is some awful effects that sounds nice on paper but it absolutely terrible in action. You get slowfalling and can't really move or do anything.
Soulsteal is 100% lifesteal.

[tranquil solstice]

That might explain the problem. The dev accidentally removed the player-based mob scaling in v36. Could you please update the mod "Medieval" to 2.0.1 and see what level your mobs have then?

[lilac helm]

Sugar Rush is horrible
I'm tempted to remove its affix. If you want the effect, get the gem for it.

I'm also tempted to remove the Fatal Flicker affix cause nobody like uncontrollably dashing forward

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, I don't know why those two effects even exist XD

[frigid spire]

It doesnt break the modpack does it? Cilent and all

Sugar still useful for me

[tranquil solstice]

Not at all. All you need to do is replace the mod-file in your \mods folder. As long as you don't touch anything else, you're good.

If you play on a server, replace it both server and client side.

[frigid spire]

Update with curseforge Im afraid it will replace other files

[tranquil solstice]

Don't use the CurseForge launcher to update. Simply do right click on your modpack profile -> "Open Folder", go to \mods and manually delete the medieval-1.20.1-2.0.0.jar file, then paste this file into the same folder:

[honest island]

Medieval MC 5 - v26 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.21.1 [NEOFORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? CurseForge
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? No
4. v26
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? Always
6. What steps cause the crash?
   a. Use Occult Ender Lead from Apotheosis Enchanting mod.
   b. Catch a dragon from the Ice & Fire mod.
   c. Bind the dragon to a Mob Spawner.

latest.log head / tail (~43k lines) | debug.log head / tail (~22MB & ~113k lines) | crash-2025-09-14_21.00.26-client.txt | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt head / tail (~28MB & ~103k lines) | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Removed mods:
additionalentityattributes-neoforge-2.0.0+1.21.1.jar

[lilac helm]

Are dragons not blacklisted in MMC5?

[honest island]

Dragons don’t seem to be blacklisted in MMC5, since I can still catch them with the Occult Ender Lead

[tranquil solstice]

The blacklist would be about binding them to a spawner :P

[honest island]

Game crashes when I try to bind a dragon to a spawner

[tranquil solstice]

You could either not bind it to a spawner, or check whether dragons are blacklisted, or remove the mod C2ME and see if that changes anything.

Cuz as far as I can see, the Fatal errors in the log don't even mention Ice and Fire.

[frigid spire]

@tranquil solstice ok now that shit really high lv

[tranquil solstice]

Oop- What level is it?

[frigid spire]

Wait a minute. Spawner is still lv20 in nether, but ice and fire spawner is 36 in overworld???

[lilac helm]

Thinking about something like this (where the gem is any Esoteric level gem)
Thoughts?

[frigid spire]

Ah

But it drop legendary now

[lilac helm]

Dragons have a set level that differs from most mobs

[frigid spire]

Lv 55....

Lolll it work now. Tks bro~

[tranquil solstice]

Eidolon?

Also, that is a perfect gem I assume?

[lilac helm]

Yeah I mentioned Esoteric gem

[frigid spire]

Just curious. Which magic do u like the most? And why?

[tranquil solstice]

Oh, I can't read. My bad.

[lilac helm]

That

Is a good question

I could have also done Ars Nouveau's Enchanting Apparatus but I chose Eidolon's Magic Workbench because it's easy to craft and easy to use, while giving me just a few more slots that I can use for more ingredients

[frigid spire]

Ah, I mean magic in combat 😝

[tranquil solstice]

If you were as mean as me you would've used the crafting table from Wizard's Reborn, it has the same amount of slots but is definitely not as easy to use 😂

Also, what is that black & purple item at the bottom? It looks familiar but I can't name it.

[lilac helm]

Obsidian Heart (Obsidilith)

[tranquil solstice]

Ahh! Okay, not as bad to get, that's nice.

[lilac helm]

Honestly the hardest part is probably the Eternal Crystals cause their recipe isn't shown in JEI
I might consider swapping them for something else like Reinforced Echo Shards or Essences of the Storm

(Then again, I have Eternal Stella and there is no documention for how to set up the Hephaestus Forge)

[tranquil solstice]

There's an unofficial guide book for Forbidden & Arcanus, muon would just need to add it...

[lilac helm]

And Eternal Stella are pretty much going to be necessary for the Esoteric bosses (unless you want your armor to quickly break in combat)

[honest island]

My game still crashes

Tested with many other mobs from other mods → no problem. Crash happens when binding dragons or using spawn eggs from Ice and Fire.

[tranquil solstice]

All spawn eggs from Ice and Fire?

Or just dragon spawn eggs?

[honest island]

Just dragon

I've only tested with three different dragon spawn eggs from Ice and Fire

[tranquil solstice]

Could you check in your \config\apotheosis folder, in the spawner.cfg file if dragons are blacklisted?

[lilac helm]

This is MMC5 right?

[tranquil solstice]

I think so.

Is it a datapack there?

[lilac helm]

In MMC5 it's a tag now

Yes it's datapack

[tranquil solstice]

Ah, alright.

Could you provide the path? I can only guess.

[lilac helm]

Gimme a sec

data/apothic_spawners/tags/entity_type/blacklisted_from_spawners.json

Defaults are warden, elder guardian, and anything tagged in c:bosses

Now let me check what MMC5 has

Nothing extra

Let me check Ice and Fire's tags

[tranquil solstice]

🤨

[lilac helm]

Nothing in Ice and Fire

I can whip up a datapack in like 5 minutes to fix that

If you want

[tranquil solstice]

It looks like he wants the dragon-spawner to work, not to blacklist it XD

[lilac helm]

Well chances are as soon as muon see this discussion it's getting blacklisted ASAP

[tranquil solstice]

😇

[lilac helm]

that's not even in English 💀

[tranquil solstice]

Well. "Bones" is.

[lilac helm]

☠️

[tranquil solstice]

But I feel like they wanted to say "Bonus". So maybe not English.

[lilac helm]

I'm not gonna worry about it

[tranquil solstice]

XD

[lilac helm]

Let me see about implementing that new recipe

[tranquil solstice]

Ay.

[lilac helm]

I'll keep the original one with the core (for now)
I'll add this new one as an alternative

[frigid spire]

ok now its crash~

[outer hollow]

Uploaded crash-2025-09-14_22.13.23-client.txt from @frigid spire to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/xQPyvwV

[tranquil solstice]

Looks like the sound engine crashed you. Can you load back into the world?

[frigid spire]

can

sound crash the game? First time I've heard of it ಠ⁠﹏⁠ಠ

[lilac helm]

Alright time to test it out

[tranquil solstice]

It's pretty rare. Could be completely random, a driver issue or the sound-physics mod.

[lilac helm]

Trying again (I defined all my items but forgot to set the actual layout)

[tranquil solstice]

Unbelievable.

[lilac helm]

I'm like that :/

[tranquil solstice]

I'm just kidding, I would even mess up the item tags.

[lilac helm]

At least it didn't crash my game

It's just taking a while to reload

I messed up one of the inputs but otherwise it works!

[tranquil solstice]

Ohhh, not bad!

The gem or the 2nd Stella?

[lilac helm]

2nd Stella

[tranquil solstice]

Ah.

[molten vigil]

It looks like just a bug with Ice and Fire: Community Edition most likely

please submit that to their github

[lilac helm]

And sure enough the recipe functions

[tranquil solstice]

Looks good.

[molten vigil]

this is definitely better than esoteric scrap

[fluid sage]

Soft-Ban Result:

Reason: compromised account
Moderator: @molten vigil

Banned:

ion4x4 [1324782682290262048]

[molten vigil]

Okay, this one might actually be c2me related

nvm you’re on MMC4

maybe just Sound Physics jank then

[fluid sage]

Soft-Ban Result:

Reason: compromised account
Moderator: @molten vigil

Banned:

lilbruh55 [629391838314233889]

[molten vigil]

Iron’s is pretty much the only viable combat magic, the other magic mods are more for utility

[fluid sage]

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cabp235 [623615394095169623]

[molten vigil]

how do people fall for this same stupid ass scam so much

[lilac helm]

Easy enough fix

[fringe crow]

Is there a good spot to look for Esoteric gear? Ancient and even Artifact is farmable in the End but i'm kinda struggling with Heirloom and Esoteric as I havent gotten them even in the end

[tranquil solstice]

Getting Esoteric gear is a bit of a hassle currently. You need a maxed out skill tree and then farm certain bosses for a chance to get an Esoteric drop.
Heirloom is dropped by Endermen in the End though once your level is high enough.

[fringe crow]

Good to know. Are they listed somewhere? Because I read about that here but couldnt find them mentioned ingame

[lilac helm]

Ignis, Ender Guardian, Maledictus

[tranquil solstice]

The required levels? In the pinned comments.

Oh the bosses. Yeah.

[fringe crow]

Thanks again, you two :)

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tamsooo [722924091366965270]

[coarse iron]

hey i did some testing with all the bows in this modpack... is everything aside from vanilla bows/crossbows incapable of using tipped arrows?

bows from cataclysm, twilight forest, and celestisynth arent capable of using them

making endless quiver useless unless youre using a vanilla bow

[fringe crow]

is the level cap of Lvl. 100 for entities in the end intended? because its the limit no matter how far out i fly

[wheat sinew]

How do you get the mirroring enchantment for Helmets?

[tranquil solstice]

If you're on v36, you'll need to update the medieval mod. See here: #medieval-mc-forge message

[tranquil solstice]

You can either get lucky and find it in dungeon chests, or get it from the Enchanting Table. I think it's a Treasure enchantment, so you'll need an Aquatic Shelf of Arcane Treasures.

[wheat sinew]

Thsnk you very much

[coarse iron]

Is there anything in this mod pack that provides an extreme drawback but increases damage output substantially?

IE: -100% armor +100% damage

[fringe crow]

There's a gem that does pretty much that but 50% on perfect iirc

but its health not armor

[coarse iron]

oo i think i found it

unfortunately its ATK dmg and not damage %

is there anything thats dmg %?

im doing a no melee run so anything that increases non melee damage would be great

[lilac helm]

Glass Hand. x2 damage but x5 damage taken

Works with ranged too

[coarse iron]

ty

[lilac helm]

I upped the level requirement for Esoteric Reforging (cause at this stage of the game, 200 is kinda lazy)

So now you need a minimun requirement of 500

If I'm being at all honest, this is still kinda low given the capabilities of Apotheosis and other factors like Autoleveling

[wide bronze]

random question. why current over max?

I guess current would have higher initial damage, but it falls off later in the fight

[lilac helm]

huh?

You mean Current HP damage?

[wide bronze]

yeah

also, I take it the bosses still have some sort of damage limiter?

[lilac helm]

It mostly exists as an easy way to kill stronger mobs
If you have a boss with 1000 hp and you have 10% Current HP damage, that's 100 damage on top of everything else that you deal, and often you can get higher than 10%

If you have a high amount and high base damage, then you can kill any mob in the game with no more than a few hits

[wide bronze]

well, the ones like leviathan and such

[lilac helm]

Yeah Cataclysm has a damage limiter (except that Crit Chance completely busts this wide open)

[wide bronze]

I see, good to know

I honestly like the damage limiter

it makes you actually fight the boss 'properly' regardless of your damage

had to quote properly cuz...well, they don't have a type of armor/dr reduction to their attacks to make you weaker in defense too

idk if that's possible but, other mods do something kinda similar but with dimension limiters. Like, betweenlands made overworld items garbage tier.

and I think...aether does too?

[lilac helm]

Yeah Aether does for tools, and by default Blue Skies also does it

[wide bronze]

oh right, blue skies does too yeah.

[lilac helm]

Betweenlands is so much more evil cause not only are tools nerfed there but the mobs themselves are resistant to overworld weapons

(And then there's the fact that you can't even use their tools in the Overworld)

[wide bronze]

Well, when I first discovered that dimension, it was in R.A.D., and I'll be frank. I actually prefer that dimension over any other dimension mod, even over the normal minecraft gameplay. It feels...cozy? I'm messed up huh?

ah, and the stalkers are just way too cute

[lilac helm]

🗿
Those things

I like it cause it's actually a pretty challenging dimension

[wide bronze]

do you not like stalkers? they're completely non-hostile...well, as long as you dont smack them first. Also yeah, that's another reason I like it. Although, I really hate the...crawler? the thing at the deepest part of the dimension that snuffs out your torches as it stalks you

[lilac helm]

Oh that's what I was thinking of

[wide bronze]

that thing legit horrifies me. Probably because I have a very strong fear of the dark

well, not so much the dark. More like, things I cannot see.

I'm apprehensive about deep or even murky water too

[plush swift]

idk if someone pointed it out before, but there is a duping glitch with backpacks, specifically with the upgrades that have item filters
you can dupe anything you want with it

[molten vigil]

what modpack version are you playing?

[plush swift]

the new one, v36

[molten vigil]

ah, yeah that dupe can definitely happen in MMC4 too. it's currently only patched in MMC5

will fix soon thanks for the heads up

[plush swift]

no problem

[fringe crow]

how do you guys properly level well yeah, 1500 is low because my enderman farm can get there in like 15 minutes but to max out the skill tree i need like 400 points and its already costing me 1200 levels for one stupid point at 135 skill points

[tranquil solstice]

Skill tree is capped at 150 levels, don't worry ;)

[fringe crow]

ohh, you guys said maxed out so i thought my poor ass needed 400 😭

[tranquil solstice]

Misunderstanding, sorry. Just maxed to the cap of 150 😄

[fringe crow]

Relieving to hear

[tranquil solstice]

Though based on my [testing](#medieval-mc-forge message), you can get 2600 levels within a minute, so it's not really that bad.

[dry nebula]

question: i updated my serverpack to v36, however whenever I try to join the server it keeps telling me its still in version 33. I can still join the server but will this be a problem in the future?

[fringe crow]

so you're telling me my enderman farm has the wrong mobs i will farm some blazes now

[molten vigil]

you are missing configs from the update

[dry nebula]

should I replace the updated server with the old configs and default configs?

[tranquil solstice]

The tests were done with Knowledge of the Ages, Looting and Scavenger enchantments as well as potions of Ancient Knowledge. Those might have a greater impact than the mob alone.

[fringe crow]

Yeah, I have Scav 3, KoA 3 and Looting 6 so there's still some way to go since I saw KoA 4

and scav 4 too i think, looting 8 i believe

did you use the splendor gems? i have 3 of them in my sword, +40% exp each lol

[lilac helm]

If it's 1200 for 1 point up there... I'm doubling down the Esoteric cost

You don't lose all the levels, just a couple so yeah I feel like I can raise it rather easily

[tranquil solstice]

Yes, only one though XD

[fringe crow]

i spammed them as soon as i saw it wasnt unique

[tranquil solstice]

Probably a good idea, I didn't even pay attention to that.

Ah, I used the other 2 gem sockets to get +6 enchantment levels.

[lilac helm]

I mean there are other better gems to insert first

Yeah that

[fringe crow]

Yeah honestly esoteric is so broken, from what i saw, that i wouldnt mind spending a bit of time to gather the levels for that

[tranquil solstice]

So I got Knowledge of the Ages XI, Looting XIII and Scavenger XI.

[fringe crow]

well this swords only purpose is to be used at the xp farm so lol

how the HELL can you get KoA XI

[tranquil solstice]

Hold on.

[lilac helm]

Yeah I think you meant IX

XI is 11

[fringe crow]

please explain this to me 😭 my ass is on 3

[tranquil solstice]

I meant XI, I guess.

[lilac helm]

Oh wait

The amplification perk

[tranquil solstice]

:)

[fringe crow]

okay how.

[tranquil solstice]

Amplification chance in the skill tree gets you level V.

[lilac helm]

And them the gems get you +6

[tranquil solstice]

And then the level-gems to add another 6 levels.

Ya.

I could reforge it for a 4th socket, technically...

[lilac helm]

I mean, I'll look into it but if it's as easy as I think it is, I might buff the level requirement even further

I'll have to see about constructing an enderman farm and then forging the perfect experience weapon

[tranquil solstice]

Keep in mind that not everyone's a tryhard, I'm probably not the best measurement.

[lilac helm]

True...

[fringe crow]

that is really cool, i can atleast put one of the +2 gems in. no idea how to get my hands on the stuff for the +4 one but ill get there sometime

[lilac helm]

I indeed agree that there should be a limit between some dedication and full on grinding

[tranquil solstice]

Yes. The boss gems can be quite a pain to get.

[lilac helm]

I don't want it to be so much too that it would dis-encourage reforging too

The fact that you need 3-9 cores per reroll and you only get 1-2 per item is disgusting too

[fringe crow]

per reroll?

cant you just use the augment table if youre unhappy with the stats

[lilac helm]

Reforge*

[fringe crow]

ah alr

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, although I think you said that 5-5-5 are guaranteed? In that case you only ever need to take the 3-core option.

[lilac helm]

True

I mean half if not all of the point of a reforging table is to let you get said affixes on the gear of your choice and/or make getting a full set of it easier

Even though I am utilizing the best gear in the game as gear sets

It still leaves the entirety of Curios to be reforged

Really depends on how much you want to min-max

[lilac helm]

And tools

[tranquil solstice]

I didn't really put much attention on my tools. Look at my MAIN SHOVEL

[lilac helm]

🗿

[tranquil solstice]

XD

[fringe crow]

i mean thats good enough, what challenge could a shovel be faced with that this isnt good enough for xdd

[lilac helm]

Honestly Block Reach and Efficiency are the only real things you need to make a really good tool

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, it's probably why I never reforged it.

[fringe crow]

with tools i just use affix stuff my farm dropped and throw a couple of the main enchantments on

[lilac helm]

Just give it a simple mythic reroll, add a couple really good gems and it's all you'll need

[tranquil solstice]

I got block reach from by Prestigious Palm, so I didn't put it on tools.

[lilac helm]

Ye

I have like 8 Prestigious Palms

[tranquil solstice]

LOL

Imho too much block reach can become a little annoying when you insta-mine. But iirc you said you prefer Miner's Fervor anyway.

[lapis pelican]

no joke it really can jack up some important stuff

[tranquil solstice]

Yeah, and even when you're just trying to strip mine you are constantly mining the floor you want to walk on :D

Just because you don't hold the cursor perfectly straight.

[lilac helm]

Combine it with multi-block mining...

https://tenor.com/view/collapse-patio-caught-on-tape-break-down-break-apart-gif-17417146

[fringe crow]

i have started to hate the multi block mining

i wanna change a block in my farm and forget about it

half of my farm is gone

[lilac helm]

There's a key combination to change the requirements

You can set it to always active, never active, active when not sneaking, and active when sneaking

I prefer active when sneaking by default

It's Ctrl + O by default

[fringe crow]

i would prefer active when not sneaking because if i wanna strip mine with it, im not sneaking

but good to know thats a thing

[lilac helm]

Active when not sneaking is the default

But like you said, sometimes I forget and

https://tenor.com/view/house-explosion-explode-boom-kaboom-gif-19506150

[fringe crow]

ohh, then I just have to start sneaking now (which i wont because i forget about the thing)

but thats my fault so

[lilac helm]

That's why I prefer when sneaking, so that I usually have to purposefully trigger it

[tranquil solstice]

The solution is to just have a lot of picks. I have 1 fortune with autosmelt, 1 fortune without autosmelt, 1 silk and 1 multi-block pickaxe.

[lilac helm]

Multi-wield is always the answer to everything