What did you do differently now compared to before (like [this one](#medieval-mc-forge message) )? Are these now "properly" spawned by Apotheosis instead of summoned?
The only time I've seen this health cap is with the target dummy, which I assume is hard-coded to have 200 health. There seems to be a HP cap with Apotheosis then as well perhaps (maybe dependent on rarity, since the Witch is halved with lower total HP but also just Rare)?
#medieval-mc-forge
tranquil solstice
tranquil solstice
So you mean reducing healing received to 50% is the thing that caused this? o.O
lilac helm
I think so
I don't think this is normal though
Let me hang in the overworld and see if I can't get a witch to spawn naturally
Ugh I think my mouse died
tranquil solstice
I remember now that there actually is such a thing as health of spawning mobs counting as "healing received". In the past I was using a maxed Holy Locket, which deals damage to yourself based on enemy's healing received (although the description is confusing imo), and sometimes I got randomly 1-shot by that when a mob spawned next to me. I'm not certain anymore but I thinkkkk it was when I went into those underground dungeon rooms where an Apotheosis boss spawns.
lilac helm
So Relics might be the culprit here?
tranquil solstice
So Relics might be the culprit here?
I don't think that the Holy Locket was the cause, but it exposed that spawning bosses count as "healing received".
molten vigil
The healing received attribute affecting that would make sense, the strategy of just calling livingentity#heal if affecting max health after mob initialization is pretty common
kind of more surprised if it only happens with Relics
you might be able to circumvent this by giving them the grievous effect instead of changing their healing received attributes
lilac helm
The healing received attribute affecting that would make sense, the strategy of ...
I mean I have seen other Apotheosis instances where if say the mob spawns with an affix item that increases their max health, they don't actually heal up to the new health
Apoth 1.21 has been more considerate about that and actually fixed that issue
lilac helm
you might be able to circumvent this by giving them the grievous effect instead ...
Potentially but it doesn't help that many boss mobs, including Ignis are immune to negative potion effects
I can do some testing to see what could potentially be causing this
I'm just fairly certain it's not from Apotheosis (since they do have one of their own boss mobs using the healing received attribute) and it's from a different mod
molten vigil
I mean I have seen other Apotheosis instances where if say the mob spawns with a...
Yeah okay looks like even on 1.20, they properly call setHealth, not heal
something could be adding a max health modifier after that init happens?
tranquil solstice
Does Minecraft use setHealth as well? Because when I equip my Holy Locket and stand next to a Skeleton spawner I take damage constantly. If Minecraft does it properly too, it's probably some mod doing things.
lilac helm
Wouldn't be suprised if that was just .hurt
I'm going to make a new instance with Apotheosis and a few of the mods that I think could be culprits
And if one of them does effect it, then we can narrow down the problem from there
drifting juniper
what is this?
lilac helm
Looks like some renamed concrete
tranquil solstice
Looks like renamed glazed terracotta to me.
drifting juniper
lol cool
lilac helm
I'm going to make a new instance with Apotheosis and a few of the mods that I th...
Doesn't seem to be Relics
drifting juniper
lol cool
thought it was something important but no, just renamed glazed terracotta
lilac helm
Doesn't seem to be Relics
I'm going to try Autoleveling next
And it looks it it uses heal instead of setHealth too
Yeah I think it's Autoleveling
Has no real effect at lower levels but at higher levels it causes the same health split as we were seeing before
Now let me add AttributeFix to confirm this
Would make sense too cause I'm adding about 10000 or so health to Ignis, which does get healed to properly, then the Autoleveling sets it to around 200k and tries to heal to that, but the Healing recieved only heals 100k and thus gets me values around 110k
So yeah I think AutoLeveling is our problem and the fact that it uses .heal to heal up to full health instead of .setHealth
And again, a just over 50% health mark
Well that was quicker to find than I was expecting
molten vigil
we can patch that
lilac helm
Well that was quicker to find than I was expecting
Was honestly just thinking "what else increases mob's health"
And then AutoLeveling immediately came to mind
lilac helm
I remember now that there actually is such a thing as health of spawning mobs co...
So yeah you were technically correct, mobs were being healed when they spawned
tranquil solstice
Yeah, I just didn't make the connection to Autoleveling. That should've been obvious after noticing that skeletons spawning are also being healed.
lilac helm
Was honestly just thinking "what else increases mob's health"
And then AutoLeve...
I mean to be fair, my thought process just led to my instinct with AutoLeveling pretty quickly
If it hadn't been AutoLeveling I would have actually just started getting confused cause all the obvious potential mods would have been clear and then at that point it could've been just about any mod
tranquil solstice
Yep. Not much else that affects the health of every mob 😄
lilac helm
Honestly at first the one thing I was worried about was that it could've been Puffish Attributes, the one attribute mod that I added to help buff Esoteric bosses, that was causing the issue
Especially since it has its own healing attribute
tranquil solstice
Glad it's not that.
lilac helm
Me too
Cause those resistance attributes are really important
Ignis and Maledictus lived just fine, but even with 90% resistance I shredded a Wither in like 2 hits
lilac helm
Cause those resistance attributes are really important
Also adds a couple other of attributes that I could potentially add as affixes for compat
But we'll see about that
Right now I'm going to add unification for Artifact, Heirloom and Esoteric
Cause there is a lot that could get added/fixed
Ok that was weird
I was looking at the shield affix for armor toughness in vanilla Apotheosis
Mythic can get up to +25%
Ancient can only get up to +20%
I'm just gonna fix that real quickly
lilac helm
tamed and wild?
Yeah it would
turbid trout
how to add someone in ftb chunks?
tranquil solstice
Create a team with /ftbteams and add them to your team.
agile blade
Anyone know a way to
separate enchants from
enchanted books?
my enchanting table has
a lot of
bonuses so my books always are with 5 enchants minimum and i just want like 1 or 2
mmc5
btw
tranquil solstice
separate enchants from
Put the "Splitting" enchantment on an anvil and drop it onto the book.
No wait, Splitting splices level II into two level I's I think. Then the Obliteration enchantment on the anvil.
rare jolt
theres the book storange for enchants
agile blade
😭
tranquil solstice
Wha- does Apotheosis for 1.21 not have those? Weird.
rare jolt
Wha- does Apotheosis for 1.21 not have those? Weird.
yea i didnt see them also
tranquil solstice
XD
rare jolt
but anyway just use the librery
agile blade
maybe i have to use tomes of scrapping
and gamble it doesnt delete the enchants i want?
agile blade
but anyway just use the librery
library?
agile blade
nvm
agile blade
Enchantment Library.
oh
agile blade
roger
molten vigil
Still not working 🙁
no sorry, the operation was correct (use add_value for these attributes probably), the attribute itself is explosion_damage_multiplier, instead of explpsion_damage_bonus
earnest coyote
is there an official mmc4 server?
tranquil solstice
is there an official mmc4 server?
Negative.
But you can check #1109323795556216862
molten vigil
no sorry, the operation was correct (use add_value for these attributes probably...
it’s a bit weird because mobs don’t really have a base “explosion damage” or “projectile damage” attribute
agile blade
theres a special librery who auto storage enchaments
big thanks dude
molten vigil
crazy block for sure lol
molten vigil
that’s why they removed splitting
rare jolt
big thanks dude
agile blade
im gonna propose to this block with a diamond ring
agile blade
yeah got it
tranquil solstice
The library is also pretty expensive though, that's why Splitting was a good early-game method. I can't believe they removed it D:
agile blade
The library is also pretty expensive though, that's why Splitting was a good ear...
i kinda get 200 levels easily
in 5 mins
but i guess for early it would be
i kinda wish there was a way to make apotheosis spawners
able to spawn just by having the chunk loaded
my exp farm only works with my near
tranquil solstice
Have you tried "ignore player"?
tranquil solstice
Game mechanic, if the spawner module is enabled. It is on MMC4.
When you press R on a spawner in your inventory it should show the "recipes".
agile blade
oh wait..
tranquil solstice
U, sorry.
agile blade
OH
tranquil solstice
My brain's not braining today.
rare jolt
but i guess for early it would be
For early you can just go on heven until u have all what u need to go on hard dificults
agile blade
OHH U CAN ADD MODIFIERS TO SPAWNERS
tranquil solstice
XD
agile blade
THIS IS GAME CHANGING
oh shiet
a nether star
for each spawner
i have like 40
😭
tranquil solstice
Make an incomplete witherskeleton farm and you'll never run out of them.
agile blade
im using drygmys
tranquil solstice
Fair.
agile blade
they give me wither heads but
not that much
i have 21 rn
wait is there any way
to automatically kill mobs and get drops which can only be obtained when a player kills them?
other than drygmys
since drygmys arent that fast yk
unless i put like 10
or more
tranquil solstice
I'm not aware of any other method.
agile blade
its because my
drygmys
give me 3 gold nuggets
out of piglins
lmfao
btw what does
touch of malice do
tranquil solstice
Doesn't sound familiar. Which mod?
tranquil solstice
Don't the sigils have a description on the item?
tranquil solstice
Uhh.
tranquil solstice
I don't think that exists in MMC4.
tranquil solstice
Apparently it increases one affix but removes another one.
lilac helm
it’s a bit weird because mobs don’t really have a base “explosion damage” or “pr...
I mean there is an Apotheosis attribute for projectile damage but none for explosion
And not the arrow damage, an actual generic projectile damage
lilac helm
Apparently it increases one affix but removes another one.
Speaking of affixes
Doing a pretty decent job of porting original affixes forward towards the extra rarities
Also working on compat and functionality
So for example, removing affixes that utilize Iron's mana and mana regeneration (since it also uses Ars Nouveau's and thus is essentially just 2 copies of the same affix)
Some others that are useless (like Resilience and Flying Speed) I just removed
And some affixes (like Bonus Loot Rolls) I've repurposed to actually be useful
tranquil solstice
Ah, so that's why there are two mana and mana regen affixes. Good job! Apotheosis should hire you at this point, lol.
lilac helm
quite literally yes
Also added a few affixes of my own to better utilize attributes potential usefulness
Things like Jump Height on leggings and boots, Safe Fall Distance for boots, and Stamina for chestplates and leggings
tranquil solstice
Noice.
lilac helm
Speaking of affixes
Doing a pretty decent job of porting original affixes forwar...
Although this is a bit tricky since these tiers have attributes going on weird items
Like damage resistances on shields
Or Current HP damage on light weapons
tranquil solstice
Being able to get Current HP damage on light weapons on these high tiers is a good incentive though to fight these bosses.
lilac helm
That's kind of my thought process
Plus there are already some existing resources set that I have to work around
Things like a buff to magic damage resistance (which can give you invulnerability at Esoteric tier for some reason) and a heavy nerf to Current HP damage (which doesn't actually work so I will fix that within my datapack too)
lilac helm
Being able to get Current HP damage on light weapons on these high tiers is a go...
True
I'm hoping that with my ports I can incentive Artifact and Heirloom more but it might still be tricky as Ancient allows way more special effects and attributes which allow for better building combos
Who knows, I may change their structure a little bit
tranquil solstice
Right now Heirloom is just so very different from all the other rarities, you'd have to change or buff it a lot to be worth it.
lilac helm
But yeah, I think the fixing of physical damage reduction especially has already buffed armor for those tiers quite a bit
Hopefully with more changes it can become better
proper mica
Question for anybody who knows: how exactly does the revenant class work? My fiance has eaten rotten flesh and bones and the bars are full but he can't spawn anything. He has even tried rebinding the keybind to avoid conflicts. Help please? (For the origins revival mod)
tranquil solstice
But yeah, I think the fixing of physical damage reduction especially has already...
Speaking of armor, does armor shred actually work? I compared an axe without armor shred to an axe with 150% armor shred, and both did a constant 20 damage per hit against Netherite Monstrosity.
lilac helm
You're probably hitting the damage cap for the Netherite Monstrosity. Try checking it on other bosses like Obsidilith instead
tranquil solstice
Alright, will do next time :)
lilac helm
Right now Heirloom is just so very different from all the other rarities, you'd ...
I feel like its biggest downside is that its main ability, to have very powerful potion effect, just does not work. The selection of available mob effects is very poor (mosquito repellent, seriously?) and they just aren't even much more powerful than Ancient or Artifact. That with its very low amount of attributes, effects and sockets, and lack of critical affixes just make it feel like a big letdown.
That and most mob effects just don't even really work when you're one tapping everything or basically invulnerable
Like what is this 😭
{
"ordinal": 7,
"color": "#bd2323",
"material": "apotheotic_additions:heirloom_material",
"weight": 25,
"quality": 5,
"rules": [
{
"type": "stat",
"chance": 1.0
},
{
"type": "ability",
"chance": 1.0
},
{
"type": "socket",
"chance": 1
},
{
"type": "durability",
"chance": 0.7
}
]
}
1 attribute, 1 effect and 1 socket
That's trash
And Artifact only gets 2 attributes, 1 effect and 4 sockets
tranquil solstice
It's tragic.
lilac helm
Artifact at least is about Mythic or Ancient tier cause of its super strong attributes
But Heirloom is like Uncommon or Rare
candid ravine
Apologies for the tangent-- anyone know if its possible to do a "random" origin but you get a random every time you die? 👀
tranquil solstice
Yeah, I think if you wanted to make Heirloom somewhat competitive you'd have to either give it 2 very high effects instead of 1, or buff the 1 effect massively. And maybe give it 1 more socket than any other rarity.
lilac helm
Honestly the play might by nerfing Ancient to only be able to get 4 sockets, and let Heirloom be able to get 5
That would encourage use of the higher rarities, instead of just gem stacking to power
Cause in all honestly, the gems are really what makes an ok piece of gear a great piece
Heirloom could probably also get a second effect and maybe even a third, and a second attribute
tranquil solstice
Hmm, possibly.
lilac helm
Artifact, give a chance for a third attribute and that would probably be good enough
lilac helm
Heirloom could probably also get a second effect and maybe even a third, and a s...
That and heavily buff its mob effects, maybe even make some Heirloom and Esoteric exclusive
These could be effects like Reinforced, Echoing Strikes, Evasion, Saturation, etc.
Strength even
tranquil solstice
When you say make these Heirloom and Esoteric exclusive, do you mean removing Reinforced from Ancient?
It could be on my gem though, I'm currently not ingame to check.
lilac helm
Yeah there's a gem
tranquil solstice
Ah okay, nvm then.
lilac helm
And honestly the gem could stay, as it's a gem and takes a valuable spot
(we could always nerf it too if needed)
tranquil solstice
Yeah. And you could make the exclusive affix Reinforced II, then it's still exclusive.
lilac helm
Yeah I can alternate between 1 and 2, that's what the step function is for
For the most part, once you can start getting Heirloom on a regular basis, you should hopefully have an Augmenting Table at that point
tranquil solstice
I'd say you need it for Ancient already, but yes 😂
lilac helm
Like I said, I'm gonna nerf Ancient a little for better balancing
tranquil solstice
Hurts, but understandable.
lilac helm
(honestly in my opinion the Augmenting Table could stand to get a new recipe as it's really a night and day difference in power)
tranquil solstice
I mean, it only takes like godforged materials to make, doesn't it?
You get those as soon as you enter the End dimension, which, depending on playstyle, can be pretty quickly.
lilac helm
Yeah which is very easy to make
For the table itself I'd probably replace it with Manifestations of Infinity
lilac helm
You get those as soon as you enter the End dimension, which, depending on playst...
Worse actually, you can get them in Overworld from one specific boss
tranquil solstice
Oh :o
lilac helm
Not sure if I want to change that or not. My mission is to adjust the higher rarities for better gameplay, not change half of Apotheosis in my wake.
tranquil solstice
LOL
If we find something badly balanced later you can change it still anyway. Maybe start with the most obvious stuff.
lilac helm
I mean you do still need a nether star AND blackstone so you would still need to visit the Nether to get the table
And for reforging you need the advanced table which requires a Netherite Ingot
tranquil solstice
Technically you can probably find blackstone and soulsand in some Overworld structure (and Wither skellies are everywhere), and a Netherite ingot is a quest reward from Twilight I think. But yeah, Nether is probably faster :P
lilac helm
Yeah you can find blackstone and netherite everywhere in the Overworld
Foundry would have everything you listed
tranquil solstice
Oh true. That's actually a structure I haven't come across yet .-.
lilac helm
Can actually be pretty challenging in many modpacks but you'd conquer it in seconds with your gear
tranquil solstice
(;
lilac helm
-# I love to find it early game and cheese the piglins on the top floor for easy Netherite gear
What's going to be really fun
Is coming up with names for all my affixes
All the prefixes and stuff like "Ironforged" or "of Critcal Thinking"
tranquil solstice
Lol yeah, that does sound fun.
lilac helm
Like for my jump height affix, I'm thinking of "Springed" and "of the Rabbit"
tranquil solstice
When it's Jump III, "of the Flea" XD
lilac helm
Well see, if I make it too high then it causes the player to take fall damage from jumping too high
Which is why I added the fall reduction affix for boots, so if you pair it with that affix you can jump higher without any problems
tranquil solstice
You can also get up to Feather Falling VI or so, should help with that as well.
lilac helm
Ideally I should also add these attributes onto gems, whenever I add them to existing gems or make a new one
lilac helm
You can also get up to Feather Falling VI or so, should help with that as well.
Feather Falling helps, but it gets annoying when the damage animation plays every single time you jump
tranquil solstice
Fair.
tranquil solstice
Ideally I should also add these attributes onto gems, whenever I add them to exi...
There's already a ton of gems. You could perhaps add those special effects to some of the boss gems, most of which only have 1 effect so far.
lilac helm
True
And there's also plenty of bosses that could have their own gems too
That don't currently have one
tranquil solstice
Yep.
tight coral
I think the only structure I ever found wither skeletons in the overworld was in the graveyard and mausoleum structure.
tranquil solstice
There's also the Infested Temple.
tight coral
I don't think I have come across that structure yet
tranquil solstice
And one of the pagoda-like towers with red roof.
tight coral
You mean those big cylindrical towers with the annoying zombies that drop lingering harming/blindness pots when they die?
tranquil solstice
Yeah, one version of those has lots of Wither Skellies.
(The one with Bee hives as walls on the upper part).
lilac helm
There I also crunched the number of dodge chance on the Blue Skies gem
From 40% to 25%
lilac helm
There's already a ton of gems. You could perhaps add those special effects to so...
And there's a couple of gems that got disabled too for balance reasons
I could just re-enable them and completely revision them too
tranquil solstice
Please no, I already have 10+ double chests of gems because there are so many kinds XD
tranquil solstice
😝
tranquil solstice
If the effect is useful I will have to...
lilac helm
I'll brainstorm some ideas for bonuses
Oh gosh I need to quit for tonight
Well I think I got all the armor attributes done
Just mob effects for it now
tranquil solstice
Well done.
lilac helm
I also added a Creative Flight affix for Esoteric
If that's too much I'll remove it with ease and replace it with Elytra Flight
tranquil solstice
Do you know Darkness Incarnate? That's crazy fast creative flight.
lilac helm
Yeah
lilac helm
I also added a Creative Flight affix for Esoteric
If that's too much I'll remove...
-# also attributes names... I'm think "Unbound" and "of Icarus"
tranquil solstice
I also added a Creative Flight affix for Esoteric
If that's too much I'll remove...
Or do you mean like permanent instead of "when attacked, gain..."?
lilac helm
Yeah, wear the chestplate, get permanent Creative Flight
lilac helm
-# also attributes names... I'm think **"Unbound"** and **"of Icarus"**
-# (and I totally didn't copy the names from the 1.21 instance of the same affix)
tranquil solstice
Yeah, wear the chestplate, get permanent Creative Flight
That does sound a liiiiiittle OP. But permanent elytra flight is an affix already, so you'd need a middle way perhaps?
lilac helm
I feel like for Esoteric it's ok
After all you can already make an unbreakable charm of flight
And in fact Creative Flight is intended for all fights of Esoteric bosses
tranquil solstice
Uh, oh.
lilac helm
And in fact Creative Flight is intended for all fights of Esoteric bosses
I mean there are plenty of other ways to get it too
A regular charm can last for 4 hours, even regular potions can be 30 minutes per (and up to 60 with potion skills)
And there are Orbs of Free Flight in End City chests too
tranquil solstice
I never actually looked into any of that because I'm a Valkyrie.
lilac helm
I have been balancing around the regular human origin
So some origins may be at an advantage or disadvantage
tranquil solstice
Imagine not being able to beat the bosses because of your origin.
lilac helm
And as you know I've been trying to achieve as anti-cheese of a design as I can get
Thank goodness there is no entity reach attribute as an affix or gems
tranquil solstice
Yeah, lol. And the other items that grant entity reach take up valuable curios slots.
lilac helm
Anything that gives entity reach just doesn't work with Better Combat's mechanics
The best you're going to come with is a Valkyrum Lance
Which that I'm not too worried about balancing
tranquil solstice
Its block reach affects entity reach?
lilac helm
No, there is an entity reach attribute but it doesn't work with Better Combat
Block Reach does not effect entity reach
tranquil solstice
I don't see the upside of the Valkyrum Lance then.
lilac helm
Weapons come with a built in reach attribute, and that's the only source of reach that you can get
Weapons like the Giant's Sword and Valkyrie Lance are known for their extra reach attributes, therefore they have large default reach attributes
Most swords are like 2.5 or 3 blocks; Giant's Sword is 5.5 in comparison
tranquil solstice
Yeah, Giant's Sword makes sense. Valkyrum Lance is just 3.5 though, the same as a number of other weapons.
lilac helm
Oh I guess it did not get affected then
Must accidentally have gotten put on the OG Valkyrie Lance instead
Yet another bug to fix
Valkyrum Sword should actually have a little extra reach too but I bet it doesn't
tranquil solstice
2.5, the normal. Both the Sword and the Lance get +Block Reach, but as you said, that's not entity reach.
Unless that's just clumsy wording.
lilac helm
It's not, they normally have entity reach too but Better Combat probably overrides that part
tranquil solstice
Ah, I see.
lilac helm
Like the Giant's Sword was specifically changed to have the extra reach
Dragonsteel weapons were changed to have slightly longer reach and be two handed too
(same for Giant's Sword with the two handed too)
tranquil solstice
Indeed.
lilac helm
I mean it's an easy enough fix that I can bundle in with my project
tranquil solstice
Unfortunately I need to leave you now alone though, it's my bedtime.
lilac helm
Same
tranquil solstice
👍
lilac helm
I've got a busy day tomorrow
tranquil solstice
Sleep well, and don't dream from affixes and Apotheosis bosses.
lilac helm
Not looking forward to it
tranquil solstice
Oofie.
lilac helm
Sleep well, and don't dream from affixes and Apotheosis bosses.
Would be fun dreaming of playing it until it suddenly becomes my reality and gets scary from there
tranquil solstice
Can't imagine anything more fun than that, lol.
tranquil solstice
Nighty night :)
molten vigil
Question for anybody who knows: how exactly does the revenant class work? My fia...
This channel is just for the medieval MC modpacks, let's head to #muons-projects
agile blade
btw muon
does like every dev get assigned to a game
modpack*
like u assigned to mmc forge
forest wharf
its not really assignments no its whatever pack the dev wants to create
most of the lps devs just work on individual mod projects and not packs
humble root
How many gigs of ram am i supposed to allocate for Medieval Minecraft 5 for 1.21.1, it barely functions with 10, and google said 8
I tried crankin it to 16, and it seemed to stop coughing blood, but chunk loading still takes an annoying amount of time for new chunks, and the visuals of doors lag behind the hitbox when opening them
Im startin to think 20 is genuinely a valid option, but that seems counter productive seeing as everything online says too much starts to make it break harder
lean dagger
How many gigs of ram am i supposed to allocate for Medieval Minecraft 5 for 1.21...
Please follow the performance guide to improve your game performance, as this is likely to resolve your issue.
lilac helm
Sleep well, and don't dream from affixes and Apotheosis bosses.
it actually happened 💀
lilac helm
Well I think I need to add more Curios Jewelry attribute affixes
Cause there were only 9 to start with and I had to disable 4
Honestly I'm thinking
• Experience Gained
• Experience per Minute
• Life Regeneration
• Spell Power (thoughts, seperate spell powers?)
• Magic Power
• Wissen Discount
• Persistent Soul Hearts
agile blade
also what are the main mods i should explore before going to the end?
any1? Mmc5 btw
zenith trail
Hi, I have a problem, I play on a server with 3 other friends in exaroton (In case it has something to do with it), my problem is that I am the revenant class and when I eat a bone to level up my skeletons, both the server and in singleplayer kick me out for ticking, does anyone know how to solve it?
cerulean magnet
Hi, I have a problem, I play on a server with 3 other friends in exaroton (In ca...
!aternos
waxen brookBOT
We don't support Aternos nor can we assist you with using it for reasons listed below;
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Hi, my Medieval MC crashed : (
Medieval MC 4 - v35 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
- 1.20.1 [FORGE]
- What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
- Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
- v35
- Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
- What steps cause the crash?
latest.log | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt head / tail (~14MB & ~75k lines) | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | win_event1755613059004.txt
Mod list changes beyond the modpack:
[2;34mMod list wasn't modified.[0m
What i have to do?
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Medieval MC 4 - v35 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
- 1.20.1 [FORGE]
- What launcher did you run Minecraft with? Minecraft Launcher
- Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? no
- v35
- Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? no
- What steps cause the crash? After loading up the launcher and pressing play the game crashes shortly after
latest.log | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt
Mod list changes beyond the modpack:
[2;32m0[0m added, [2;31m0[0m removed, [2;34m42[0m updated.
think any one can help me out, been trying to troubleshoot it myself but i aint all that smart about this stuff so what i could try out was limited
ive got it downloaded through curseforge but launch the game with the minecraft launcher
tranquil solstice
Where it says "42 updated" it should be 0. Could you please make a new install and make sure you don't have automatic updates enabled or click on "update all"?
tardy cedar
thanks
rare jolt
Why gems look like this now? in MMC5
molten vigil
Why gems look like this now? in MMC5
That was probably a gem that was disabled or changed significantly in the update
You can still crush it for gem dust
molten vigil
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tranquil solstice
Too bad I only got one of these, now I can't test-drink it.
lilac helm
That looks like a splash potion
tranquil solstice
Yeah, but I need to find a second one before I can sacrifice one to find out what effect it has :[
tranquil solstice
That's cheating 😭
molten vigil
yeah I thought so too
but it continues to be available without cheats because the Placebo dev doesn't agree
tranquil solstice
Lol.
lilac helm
I also added a Creative Flight affix for Esoteric
If that's too much I'll remove...
Also do you think this is too much?
molten vigil
I disabled both creative flight and elytra flight affixes in MMC5, for what it's worth
molten vigil
if I were redesigning the apotheosis bonuses for MMC4 from the ground up, I'd definitely leave those out
not sure how ambitious you're being here
lilac helm
I can leave it out easily enough
molten vigil
you know what, maybe keep it
and then it can exist only as an esoteric bonus
maybe heirloom too
lilac helm
not sure how ambitious you're being here
As I told Leum, I'm trying to keep most of the affixes the same
Just trying to add support for Artifact+, tweaking basically redundant and useless affixes, and maybe a few small balance changes
lilac helm
maybe heirloom too
That's probably a stretch given that you can literally find them in random chests in Nether and Aether
(ofc I could always remove them if you wanted me to)
I did add Elytra Flight for Artifact and Heirloom though
And I might very well look at your Crit Chance and Crit Damage changes from MMC5 and backport those to MMC4
Well that's weird
ATLauncher does not want to update for me
I'm not at home either though so 
Manual download it iss
Me also realizing that I can give Esoteric bosses resilience so that I can make the Terrible Sword terrible™
I probably wouldn't give them too much though
I suppose I can go maybe 1% less than my original value
So 99%
:p
tranquil solstice
:P
lilac helm
-# ok ok I'd probably do like 25%
lilac helm
I should also theoretically replace all instances of Apotheosis' dodge chance with Obscure API's and then give bosses accuracy so that they can pierce through more of it
Oh and then replace their dodge chance with parry so that when they dodge the attack they counter the player back
tranquil solstice
Speaking of dodge chance, what does the "dodge" affix do? (Just Dodge, not Dodge Chance)
lilac helm
No idea but I'm guessing it's just another dodge chance clone
agile blade
yo wsg gang
in MMC5 how does the auto replenish work
i made a farm using ritual of disintegration
tranquil solstice
It doesn't influence the attribute, so either it is hidden or has no effect.
agile blade
and they drop a lot of exp gems which would be cool to be able to auto replenish
instead of manually moving them to the htobar
hotbar
lilac helm
It doesn't influence the attribute, so either it is hidden or has no effect.
can you get the id of the attribute
agile blade
i can but by some reason my pal cant
tranquil solstice
can you get the id of the attribute
lilac helm
That's Obscure API's dodge chance
It's completely worthless cause you can't increase it by other sources
tranquil solstice
Ah okay, lovely.
lilac helm
That's one that I plan to change (although I don't know if I'm going to turn it into Apotheosis' dodge chance or just flat out remove it)
tranquil solstice
If you turn it into Apotheosis' one you'll probably have to lower the values, since it grants 31% here.
Unless it's like "31% of the existing value", but that's not how the others work I think.
lilac helm
Oh yeah it would get way nerfed, practically to oblivion
lilac helm
Unless it's like "31% of the existing value", but that's not how the others work...
Yeah it's multiply_base
lilac helm
So yeah at the current values you could easily get 100%
lilac helm
Some are +, some are x
and multiply base is +(value)x
tranquil solstice
Interesting.
agile blade
yo cHin, lepum, in mmc5 how does my buddy turn on auto replenish items?
like when using ars nouveau exp gems my gems in my inventory instantly refill in the hotbar
but by some reason my friend doesnt
any idea which mod does it?
tranquil solstice
Lepum never played MMC5, neither did Leum 🙃
lilac helm
Basically multiply total (just x) will multiply everything within itself (so for example two 10% increases would give +21%)
multiply base will multiply but stack with other sources of the same operation (so two 10% increases would give +20%)
agile blade
have that funtion so?
lilac helm
Wait is this the auto structure regeneration?
tranquil solstice
have that funtion so?
Yeah, but it's enabled by default. Check for the mod InventoryProfilesNext.
lilac helm
How many of these slots are there? I think it's like 6 or 7
curios:body", "curios:head", "curios:back", "curios:feet", "curios:hands"
tranquil solstice
1 body, 1 head, 1 back, 2 feet, 2 hands. So 7 in total.
agile blade
Yeah, but it's enabled by default. Check for the mod InventoryProfilesNext.
Bet ty
lilac helm
1 body, 1 head, 1 back, 2 feet, 2 hands. So 7 in total.
exactly what I thought
agile blade
yeah MMC5 uses that mod too
how does my bud turn auto replenish
in config?
client config?
lilac helm
"AutoRefillSettings": {
"refill_armor": {
"value": false
},
"refill_before_tool_break": {
"value": false
},
"visual_durability_notification": {
"value": false
},
"audio_durability_notification": {
"value": false
},
"number_of_notifications": 2,
"audio_replace_success_notification": {
"value": false
},
"visual_replace_failed_notification": {
"value": false
},
"audio_replace_failed_notification": {
"value": false
},
"type_visual_replace_failed_notification": "HOTBAR"
},
agile blade
ohhh
lilac helm
As I told Leum, I'm trying to keep most of the affixes the same
Just trying to a...
Something else I would definitely like to do too is give all sorts of existing gems some Curios bonuses to help alleviate the lack of gems for Curios
rare jolt
Experience gain was nerfed in MMC5 v24?
i kill blazes and else with Knowlege of ages and other bonuses and i gain 7exp at best :/
yep, Knowlege of the ages its not working, mobs should not drop items with it
no exp bonus its working
lilac helm
It's a bug with Clumps deleting xp orbs and giving lower xp than it should
Also if you don't have looting sometimes blazes won't drop anything
rare jolt
lol, soo.... what i do with the exp?
tranquil solstice
I think my cat is a little sick.
lilac helm
me tomorrow most likely
grand veldt
hey, i just found Medieval MC, and I wanted to ask about twothings:
- which version is best for single player experience? I found MMC5 having basically no taverns in any proximity of spawn whatsoever and they were first thing that questbook was pointing too...
- what are general differences between the versions other that which MC version they are based on?
also, is there any difference between same numbered versions of forge and fabric MMC?
rare jolt
hey, i just found Medieval MC, and I wanted to ask about twothings:
1) which ver...
I liked the MMC5, more challenging, easy to custom, MMC4 was too easy snow ball in to godness like
i 100% skip the questbook in both versions xd
grand veldt
My issue with mmc5 right now is mostly that i explored a bit on creative, and honestly I feel like there's really not that much stuff in near vicinity
And since I want to play it on singleplayer, I don't really want to explore half the map to find something new
rare jolt
Hmm, idk both versions seem the same to me in that aspect, i normaly play on large biome to more dificult and cause i like how it looks
the amount of structures is massive in both versions, the are TOO close one of each other
grand veldt
Maybe I'm just unlucky in my searches xd
prime linden
hi 😉 can someone anwser me a question... in mmc5 i was toggeling the gamemode in the menu per klick on the little sword and want to search something ... but if i tipe the name off anysthing into the search bar i cant find anysthing
junior hollow
in mmc4 how do i put gems into my gear?
sullen kelp
Hello, i'm playing MMC4 (forge) with a friend, how choose the origin endermen.
But since the last update of the modpack, he his not able to use the primery and secondary power link to his origin (ex: teleport).
Nonetheless, he still take damage from the rain, has it is suppose to be for his origin 😅
tranquil solstice
in mmc4 how do i put gems into my gear?
Put the item that has a socket together with the gem in a smithing table.
tranquil solstice
Hello, i'm playing MMC4 (forge) with a friend, how choose the origin endermen.
B...
Perhaps check the keybinds if there is anything interfering.
tranquil solstice
Dang, now the scammers don't even speak English anymore.
tranquil solstice
Glad to hear that.
lilac helm
Working on tweaking some gems
First big one I'm looking at is Blood Lord
+75% Life Steal is nuts
tranquil solstice
Life steal doesn't help when the boss one-shots you (:
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lilac helm
Life steal doesn't help when the boss one-shots you (:
Still, it makes any life steal affix just about useless cause +75%
So something I'd like to try doing is doing the Apotheosis 1.21 approach and giving a little additive life steal, and then some multiplicative life steal too
tranquil solstice
Personal opinion here: I think mixing additive and multiplicative makes it very difficult for players to determine whether an affix/attribute is useful or not. The only way to find out is to add it and see how much the value changes.
lilac helm
Unfortunately multi attribute affixes don't exist for 1.20.1 :/
lilac helm
Personal opinion here: I think mixing additive and multiplicative makes it very ...
I've got to test it anyways because for affixes at least, Apotheosis does not like when you mix multiple affixes with the same attribute
Like when you mix armor on shields, it'll pick either the additive or the multiplicative but never both (one will override the other)
tranquil solstice
Seems weird to me that it has issues with that o.O
lilac helm
It did get fixed in 1.21
tranquil solstice
Ah.
lilac helm
Works
tranquil solstice
I can already imagine the questions of confusion from players who don't have advanced tooltips enabled: Why does it say "+15% Life Steal and +30% Life Steal"? XD
tranquil solstice
Only in MMC5 tho?
tranquil solstice
Ah okay, wasn't sure if you meant it only works in MMC5 or it only currently exists in MMC5.
lilac helm
me tomorrow most likely
there we go its come to haunt me
agile blade
why does
spellweave
HAVE 27 SEVEN LEVELS
XXVII
when the level 3 costs a kidney to make
just why
😭
lilac helm
Cause it literally has no level requirement so it gets absolutely inflated by Apotheosis
agile blade
thats insane
dawg with a full set of spellweave 27 armor
and a shit ton of threads of ars nouveau damage
you can make absurd damage
tranquil solstice
For some reason the minimum distance between Ice and Fire dragon caverns doesn't work in Alex's Caves. I just travelled to the Candy Cavity, and there are seven t4 or t5 dragons in this single biome.
Eight.
molten vigil
dragons canonically love candy
both mods are made by the same dev so that's the only possible explanation
tranquil solstice
Perhaps, but it didn't seem to be on purpose - the dragon caverns were all floating in the air, and most of them weren only half-generated (with a dragon still though). If it's on purpose, I'm a little scared to travel to the Primordial Caves - which is the dragon biome :D
agile blade
dragons canonically love candy
also why did myrmex get deleted
so much potential for a minecolonies like thing 💔
molten vigil
Perhaps, but it didn't seem to be on purpose - the dragon caverns were all float...
yeah the other possible explanation is ||alex's mods are pretty buggy :) great content though||
tranquil solstice
yeah the other possible explanation is ||alex's mods are pretty buggy :) great c...
Well, I don't wanna complain too much. I did get 5 dragon eggs from this after all.
molten vigil
also why did myrmex get deleted
just too many issues I guess? I thought that was odd to just entirely remove it too
agile blade
just too many issues I guess? I thought that was odd to just entirely remove it ...
yeah they were buggy as hell
but still they were so fun 💔
i remember in a rlcraft server making a pet shop with a shit ton of every egg, myrmex eggs were always sold out (server with 10~ people daily)
💔
tragic
anyways what else should i add for my armors enchants
mage armor
tranquil solstice
Everything.
agile blade
😭
tranquil solstice
No idea what enchantments there are in 1.21, but you can make tomes for armor enchantments, put them in the enchanting table and see what else there is.
agile blade
No idea what enchantments there are in 1.21, but you can make tomes for armor en...
ik
ive spent like
200 levels and like a stack of lapis blocks doing that
tranquil solstice
Anything useful?
agile blade
idk what else to add
didnt even check
just threw it to the library
lol
1.21.1 enchant library is peak enchanting
tranquil solstice
You can put the armor piece into the Library and it will show all enchantments that go on that piece.
agile blade
ohhh
thats what putting
i see
i thought i could directly enchant armor pieces by putting in them but didnt work lol
tranquil solstice
(Note though that there can still be incompatibilities among the enchantments).
agile blade
by some reason cataclysm spellbooks armors dont loose durability so i dont neither need unbreaking or mending'
does berserker's fury exist in mmc4?
tranquil solstice
Yes.
agile blade
does it affect spells?
tranquil solstice
by some reason cataclysm spellbooks armors dont loose durability so i dont neith...
I guess not, but if there is something in the skill tree that gives a bonus based on the number of enchantments (like in MMC4), I would still add them.
agile blade
im pretty sure mmc4 and mmc5 skill trees re different
tranquil solstice
does it affect spells?
It grants Strength afaik, that adds attack damage and thus affects the spell if you're holding a weapon.
agile blade
It grants Strength afaik, that adds attack damage and thus affects the spell if ...
yeah i use staff
bet then
molten vigil
im pretty sure mmc4 and mmc5 skill trees re different
they're quite different yeah
very big changes coming to the 1.21.1 skill trees at some point
agile blade
they're quite different yeah
mmc5 is completely player stat focused
molten vigil
it's a sort of a huge project lol
agile blade
very big changes coming to the 1.21.1 skill trees at some point
hopefully
even tho i like the extensive magic skill tree
it still pretty plain
mmc4 is so big lmao
agile blade
even tho i like the extensive magic skill tree
and my sword m1 fan pals have like
2k skill points rn
tranquil solstice
That's a lot of dragons. No caverns though, so that seems more on purpose than this:
lilac helm
Ok here's a legit one
tranquil solstice
Oh okay, same thing then XD
agile blade
they got hungry, went for a snack before waiting to get harvested for a dragon forge or egg
lilac helm
man I love being able to get one of the best materials without ever having to leave the Overworld
spring drum
real quick on neoforge MMC5 1.21.1 v23 is there a way to take enchantments off of items and onto a book?
(ping me if anyone knows-
lilac helm
(ping me if anyone knows-
Tomes of Scrapping
spring drum
ah, fire! thank you
lilac helm
Superior if you want all enchantments and Extraction if you want to keep the original item too
agile blade
https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/kW95KOZzDEWO98NpR?invite=cr-MSxDVWksMjIxNTI4MjQx&v=13
already suggested the dev of cataclysm spellbooks to add compability with better combat, such big mace being used like that hurts my eyes 💔
glad lance
hello I've a question where can I find a mobs list for the modpack ?
tranquil solstice
mobs list or mods list?
The mods list is on the CurseForge page of the modpack (or in the launcher as well).
agile blade
Im looking for ancient knowledge fragments rn
what is
"Magic Bookshelf Loot Loot Chest"
humble root
what kind of settings shinanegans make Ars Nouveau and Iron's Spells share mana
anyone know cuz i need that fancy shit for personal usage
it hurts my soul that the mana regen enchants in other packs do nothing for Iron's
molten vigil
anyone know cuz i need that fancy shit for personal usage
1.20.1 or 1.21.1?
humble root
1.20.1 or 1.21.1?
1.21.1
molten vigil
unfortunately that one's not available as a public mod
humble root
but where is it in the pack then
molten vigil
it's handled by https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/medieval-core-mod
humble root
cuz i know a mod that does it exists for 1.20.1
but its not updated and MIGHT be abandoned
molten vigil
yeah, since it was never ported and had some issues I just added our own version to the core mod
It would be pretty simple to repackage into its own thing
humble root
when would that be a possibility, i wwould use that in literally every single pack i play
ars and irons are my shit omg
humble root
itd be so sick as an addon to throw into All the Magic Arcana
humble root
in like 3-4
3-4 of what
humble root
tranquil solstice
3-4 of what
intergalactic time units
humble root
damn i see how it is
i'll cry in the corner then with my redundantly separated mana pools until 3-4 intergalactic time units have passed, and i get pinged about this topic in future
agile blade
question
Does difficulty thing from mmc5 affect bosses
?
and also what is the mod that adds that difficulty meter
oh dynamic difficulty
made by muon lol
not the difficulty mod im looking for tho, which one is the one that has like 5 stages
summit haeven pinacle etc
molten vigil
not the difficulty mod im looking for tho, which one is the one that has like 5 ...
That's Apotheosis
and yeah both of those affect all enemies
agile blade
That's Apotheosis
i see
which one is the one for uh
changing difficulty modifiers
also i wanna put
a portstone in my pocket dimension
i understand why waystones re not available but a portstone should it
its a waystone but cant be tp'ed to
is there a config to be able to?
molten vigil
changing difficulty modifiers
That would be in the datapack, /config/paxi/datapacks/mmc_apotheosis/data/medieval/tier_augments/
agile blade
That would be in the datapack, `/config/paxi/datapacks/mmc_apotheosis/data/medie...
oh i see tysm
is there any way for the portstone and pocket dimension perhaps
?
molten vigil
I'm not sure what's blocking that honestly, I didn't add it
agile blade
it just says "This block cannot be placed in this dimension"
turbid trout
any idea why would those spawners stop working all of a sudden? even if im next to them
if this matters
tranquil solstice
Assuming that you haven't changed any settings recently, have you tried breaking and placing them again?
turbid trout
Assuming that you haven't changed any settings recently, have you tried breaking...
Haven't tried that, I also finished my melon&pumpkin auto farms nearby, they include hopper carts, could this affect the spawners in any way?
Will try placing them again too soon
tranquil solstice
Hmm, I don't know why hopper minecarts would prevent mobs from spawning.
You could also check if spawners work in another area though.
turbid trout
Hmm, I don't know why hopper minecarts would prevent mobs from spawning.
You co...
yep they work in another location but no longer here
i wonder what has changed
they're active, just wont spawn any skeletons
while when i place them somewhere else instantly spawn skeletons
tranquil solstice
I suppose the glass doesn't let the torch light through, but maybe you wanna check the light level inside nevertheless.
turbid trout
they worked with exact same glass and torch layout
its weird
its tinted glass, shouldnt let any light inside
tranquil solstice
Could you try a blaze spawner there?
turbid trout
removed torches, will try placing walls and see if it works
sure
blaze spawner doesnt work either
tranquil solstice
It's probably something super obvious and we just don't think of it, lol.
turbid trout
XD
maybee
but maybe not since they just worked and stopped
ah ok the blazes
spawned
just them
tranquil solstice
Hmmmmm.
Do the skelly spawners just rotate, or do they make those white particles as if something spawned?
tranquil solstice
Aight.
turbid trout
doesnt seem to work
i restarted server to check if its fixable that way
but its not
seems like something is preventing them to spawn
could ftb chunks have something to do? i have those chunks force loaded
tranquil solstice
To my knowledge that only difference in skelly/zombie and blaze spawn conditions is that blazes spawn in any light and skellies/zombies don't.
How would ftb chunks allow Blazes though?
turbid trout
right
time to replace tinted glass and test
makes no difference
it worked till i made my autofarms
im sure i should inspect that lol
tranquil solstice
I won't hold you back, cuz I got no better idea :D
tranquil solstice
Despite the farm? Or is this further away?
tranquil solstice
How many minecarts are in those farms?
tranquil solstice
...
tranquil solstice
I believe you XD
What happens when you remove those minecarts temporarily though?
turbid trout
doesnt fix it, i tried
tranquil solstice
So it's because of the growing melons or what? XD
tranquil solstice
The evil pumpkins, I bet the skeletons are scared you could carve them.
Well, unless muon tells us about some strange modpack mechanic we don't know anything about, your best hope seems to be to move the spawners and the farms further away from each other .-.
turbid trout
oh that would take ages without commands and i dont like cheating
i'll just keep trying to fix it
eventually someone would come up with a fix
hopefully
turbid trout
yeah will do
turbid trout
And lemme know if you figure it out, lol.
i just did
tranquil solstice
😮
turbid trout
thats so stupid i swear xD
tranquil solstice
¿?
turbid trout
seems like the light of the torches i recently put down there goes through a layer of a chest,hopper,bamboo spikes, i had to turn off my shader to see the actual light level and noticed its not completely black and there is some light coming from the middle, i removed the bamboo spikes and realized the tiny gap through which the light was reaching the spawners
do you see the gap? yeah thats it
tranquil solstice
Ohhh, haha! That's a bit mean.
tranquil solstice
Glad you found it though XD
tranquil solstice
Didn't do much, but yw!
turbid trout
helped me eliminate possible reasons
thats enough
ends up the pumpkins arent evil
tranquil solstice
Good, you can keep them :P
turbid trout
just you imagine i moved the entire farms and didnt come to this torch down there
tranquil solstice
Yeah, that would've been a little infuriating, lol.
turbid trout
yeah i always put light where i do my sorting systems because i once had a creeper sneak behind me and ruined all cables and filters
but this time it played me a bad trick
i'll put slabs and remove the torches lol
tranquil solstice
I'm fairly certain that mobgriefing is off in claimed chunks. But it's probably better to not rely on that.
turbid trout
i recently found out about ftb chunks and force loading
only using them to force load my farms
didnt know mob griefing is off in the claimed chunks
but thats so nice
tranquil solstice
I haven't actually tested it but I read it somewhere.
Oh yeah, in the quest book:
turbid trout
no it makes sense, i had a creeper blow behind me like a few hours ago and it was the black one that gives you blindness and i was wondering why it didnt cause any damage
i thought its because its not the green one
but now it makes more sense
tranquil solstice
Ahh, nice.
turbid trout
Oh yeah, in the quest book:
oh yeah
agile blade
yo muon
question, where is the correct place for bug reports?
there is a very annoying bug in which simply swords weapons when storaged in uh
ars nouveau storage system
they cant be removed using a storage lectern
keen edge
Hi I have a question.
Between Medieval MC 4 (Forge 1.19.2) and Medieval MC 5 (NeoForge 1.20.1), which one runs better performance-wise? My friend’s laptop isn’t very powerful, but it was able to handle All The Mods 8 fairly well. (That was on prism launcher and without all the performance shananigans that i've read in the luna pixel wiki (With that I mean specificly things like the optimised java ver.))
Important is that we ofc want it to run on a server (Idk if that makes that big of a difference on the client).
Thx in advance 😄
solved
PS: About the server hosting Luna Pixel Studios is a partner of Bisec hosting. (the last few minecraft projects I always used root servers, after I got realy disapointed by nitrado. But I think because they are offical partners I would give Bisec a try)
Did someone here try it out, recomendable?
lean dagger
Hi I have a question.
Between Medieval MC 4 (Forge 1.19.2) and Medieval MC 5 (Ne...
Please follow the performance guide to improve your game performance, as this is likely to resolve your issue.
1.20.1 would likely run better due to it being more updated
tranquil solstice
Hi I have a question.
Between Medieval MC 4 (Forge 1.19.2) and Medieval MC 5 (Ne...
Medieval MC 4 is Forge 1.20.1, and Medieval MC 5 is Neoforge 1.21.1. Not sure if that was a typo or a misunderstanding.
keen edge
typo mb
keen edge
Medieval MC 4 is Forge 1.20.1, and Medieval MC 5 is Neoforge 1.21.1. Not sure if...
what do you think is likely running better
tranquil solstice
Both versions are still receiving updates. Personally I have only played the 1.20.1 version, but from what I can tell they have very similar hardware requirements. As long as your PC has at least 16 GB of RAM so that you can allocate 8 of those, both modpacks should run perfectly fine.
keen edge
alr thx
rare jolt
Anyone know how to fix the exp problem on MMC5? Not a single exp bonus is working.
someone else is having the same problem?
celest forge
i pressed there tho somehow discord bugged and bumped me into this channel
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slender lintel
any recommendations on optimizing server performance besides pregenning chunks for medieval mc 5 (neoforge)?
forest wharf
!tps
waxen brookBOT
Please follow the guide here for changing the Java version your server uses. This will improve performance dramatically. If you are on a third party server host, you likely can not change the Java version your server uses. Bisect Hosting and a few VPS providers do allow changing Java version, though, which can usually be done through your server dashboard.
The method on Bisect is to simply go to the main dashboard page, and select "GraalVM 22" as the Java distribution. If it crashes, use 21 instead.
For further performance improvements, you can also follow this guide.
Reducing server render distance in the server.properties file is also a very good way of reducing lag. Most of our modpacks include mods like Bobby and Farsight, which make it so reducing server render distance will not affect players.
If lag persists, run the following command ingame:
/spark profiler start --only-ticks-over 50
Then, send the link in this channel.
slender lintel
!tps
looking at the stats, my TPS is halved (like 11 on average)
and most of the usage comes from entity ticks
and yeah my java is graalvm but 21, not 22
molten vigil
and most of the usage comes from entity ticks
Can you send the spark profile?
molten vigil
https://spark.lucko.me/fMpscb98bL
Looks like this is mostly Ice and Fire Community Edition, could you submit this as a GitHub issue to them?
slender lintel
is there any way to export the spark profile
molten vigil
you can just send the link to them, it stays up for a bit
you can also save it as a file but that’s honestly less accessible
just a screenshot of the relevant area is probably fine too, the
com.iafenvoy.uranus.neoforge.component.CapabilitySyncHelper.onLivingTick()8.21% com.iafenvoy.uranus.neoforge.component.CapabilitySyncHelper.syncToNearbyPlayers()7.04%2272ms (self: 8ms - 0.02%) (uranus)
slender lintel
sooo nothing I can do?
I mean I guess I can remove the mod but is it core to the progression
molten vigil
it’s a pretty big part of the pack
the rest of the lag seems to be sheep and villager ai movement calculations
so you could mass murder them
slender lintel
honestly I can't even find the ice and fire line
all Im seeing is villager AI
and fireEntityTick
molten vigil
and fireEntityTick
yeah it’s within this event
slender lintel
ahh it's deeeep
molten vigil
it’s categorized under Uranus, which is IAF’s library mod
slender lintel
server's running 20k ms behind 🥲
could it be I need some other optimizations or?
because as a programmer myself I don't see what they can do with "yeah your ticking function is slow as hell"
molten vigil
because as a programmer myself I don't see what they can do with "yeah your tick...
the issue seems to be with whatever is going on with CapabilityHelper#syncToNearbyPlayera
possibly being called way too often, collecting entities in a huge radius, something like that
ah actually
this version might fix it, judging by the description: https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/uranus/files/6910735
lilac helm
go figure it just came out today
molten vigil
possibly being called way too often, collecting entities in a huge radius, somet...
yes it was exactly this, looks like every tick they were collecting players in a 64 block radius to see who counted as "nearby" for syncing
slender lintel
this version might fix it, judging by the description: https://www.curseforge.co...
is this server-side only or do I need it on clients as well
molten vigil
looks like it probably can be swapped server-side
slender lintel
one way to find out
molten vigil
go figure it just came out today
I opened up curseforge and saw this lol
slender lintel
seems better now?
nevermind
yeah it seems better
I'll be back if something changes
nah issue is still there
molten vigil
nah issue is still there
Got another spark profile?
slender lintel
@molten vigil is it a bright idea to go one or two versions back
Of the modpack
Or ice and fire
gusty patrol
What does the pack have for automation & storage? I'm looking for a great minecolonies pack which this looks like... I hate excessive storage tedium though. I don't see a lot of the common ones that seem medieval appropriate like create or one of the drawers mods.
I figure it may just be something midieval themed that I'm not used to.
Oh. Tom's Simple. Ok.
And auto crafting in Ars
Ok ok... this looks really cool.
molten vigil
<@973331566799511575> is it a bright idea to go one or two versions back
I wouldn't recommend it
maybe submit another issue to ice and fire, since the performance issue doesn't seem to be with the radius check itself but something else with the packet handling
slender lintel
How come my server experiences it tho
And others dont
What are the recommended specs, especially around memory allocation
slender lintel
wait @molten vigil how do i set the JVM args?
I tried user-jvm-args.txt but spark still logs the default ones
molten vigil
I tried user-jvm-args.txt but spark still logs the default ones
variables.txt
molten vigil
any tips on pregenning chunks too?
usually recommend Chunky. though in MMC5 specifically, you might have luck with just using C2ME and not needing to pregen
slender lintel
ahh
analog wedge
hey, how can I use this ?
Hooooo ! It works on my inventory
ohhhhhh i can imbue my katana with beer !!!
slender lintel
concurrent chunk generation
well that's in alpha for 1.21.1, is it stable?
sry for the constant pings btw, if it's an issue just tell me
tight coral
I'm 5 points away from that upgrade, I might get it and imbue my greatsword
Also I tried and with my current armor, I can take 3-4 hits from my own greatsword before I kick the bucket.
analog wedge
I think I will use the netherite battle mage armor. One of my friends is a blacksmith....but he is a bad blacksmith. So, I am a mage, blacksmith and alchemist lol
Actually I have the chestplate of the pyromancer robe...but I can't imbue it because I've looted it. so sad
analog wedge
How can I use this filter ? I want to throw bows of my skeleton farm but...the wand which allow to apply the filter isn't in the modpack
cerulean magnet
hmmm
Wait until next tick being at 93% is good (usually I see it much lower). It's just indication of unused processing (so basically this shows the wait time)
slender lintel
sounds good but a friend of mine says he couldn't connect for hours while I was asleep
ig I should keep monitoring it
lol my MSPT max is 13 600
slender lintel
slender lintel
idk why you have 4 tps with 94 of thread on idle
muon was helping yesterday
said it's ice and fire doing nasty stuff on tick
told me to report it to them
wanton oak
this is ubuntu so i cant help you find out if its just a bug or if your system really has no swap memory allocated to it
slender lintel
I mean the server is on a VPS owned by a friend
I'll have to contact him but you believe this is the issue?
wanton oak
the process is deadlined on 8gb/8 and most of the thread as spent on memory allocation durting that 4tps section
my best guess is that yeah
since there is also no players
molten vigil
yeah there might be a memory leak of some sort, unfortunately this is quite common with large modpacks
my best recommendation would be to set up auto-restart on a schedule
uneven storm
my game crashed
molten vigil
I'll have to contact him but you believe this is the issue?
oh I see yeah swap is also zero, I think that is the default for many linux distros now so you need to create a swapfile manually
that said 8gb should definitely be enough for like 2-3 players even if swap wasn't working, so the auto-restart would help
slender lintel
according to my fren ubuntu creates a swap partiotion on install
I told him to still double check
btw could it be something to do with my launch args?
molten vigil
oh I see you've added a lot of flags
slender lintel
yeah I shoved them in there in hopes of tiny bits of optimization
molten vigil
I don't know, you could try without them
generally if you're trying to hyper optimize for cpu performance, that will come at the cost of memory allocation
and vice versa
slender lintel
yeah no still no swap memory
uneven storm
the hell
molten vigil
my game crashed
!ca
waxen brookBOT
royal chasm
@molten vigil thank you, i can finally craft fireblossom rapier
rare jolt
Anyone know how to fix the exp problem on MMC5? Not a single exp bonus is working.
someone else is having the same problem?
tight coral
My villagers are starting to glitch out
She's stuck there, and I don't know what to do to get her unstuck
tranquil solstice
Have you tried removing all that snow?
tight coral
Yeah, the grass was my attempt to remove the snow
tranquil solstice
I mean all the snow, not just those 4 blocks.
tight coral
Now she's rapidly teleporting between her job and her bed.
tight coral
I was able to fix it by firing the undertaker and reloading the world
vivid oracle
Anyone experiencing issues with the minecolonies and the restaurants breaking because the cook goes catatonic (just stops functioning completely)?
tight coral
Were they glitching out as well?
vivid oracle
Recalling them to town hall they just stand there. They can still be fed, I can still bring up the colonist ui, but they dont actually do anything
tight coral
Have you tried firing the lazy bum and hiring someone else?
vivid oracle
lol I have, but the new worker will only work for a little while, then stop again.
Which causes the colony to back up and stop working, since no one is getting fed etc.
tight coral
Hmm, I got nothing then
Other than potatoes and beef, I usually provide the food to my colony myself.
vivid oracle
I do wonder if its a supply issue, and if the supply falls behind the cook just stops functioning from the number of requests or something. Going to try making a bunch of easy food and see how things go with the next cook
tight coral
Also every time I start mass removing snow, it starts immediately snowing. It's almost as if the game knows I want the snow gone, and is trying to stop me.
spice tundra
(1.5k render distance)
i ask as to why one would need 1.5k render distance
dull solar
i ask as to why one would need 1.5k render distance
cause it looks incredible
when used with jjthunder
spice tundra
my laptop would combust if i had those settings lol
dull solar
i had the pregen running on oracle vm for 3 weeks lol
spice tundra
damn
im struggling on 16 render distance while you have shaders on as well as 1.5k lmao
spice tundra
i get sub 40 when loading like 4 chunks and i have a 3050 Ti
dull solar
i get sub 40 when loading like 4 chunks and i have a 3050 Ti
thats why you play on a server
get a free oracle vm
24gb ram
cpu is kinda a$$ tho
spice tundra
i got a Ryzen 5 5600H lmao
dull solar
you can still preload chunks overnight with chunky + c2me
spice tundra
fair but i dont really leave my laptop on overnight anymore
i might of done so like a year back but its gotten overheating issues recently
dull solar
one day you'll get a better rig
spice tundra
hopefully
wraith flicker
spice tundra
anyways i am off to struggle with create more and my wisdom teeth at the same time
it is pretty hard to focus on making a steam engine when it feels like your gums are going to explode
tight coral
Never have I been more glad to see the rain.
gusty patrol
Anyone have ANY info on Vital Herbs mod? It's ... what?
molten vigil
Anyone have ANY info on Vital Herbs mod? It's ... what?
you put herbs in a teapot and get tea
or you can put them in a bath to soak and get an effect for longer, or burn them for incense to radiate the effect
tight coral
If you place a certain explosive block in a teapot, do you get...TEA-N-TEA?
badummtiss
scenic tinsel
Am I able to get help with the modpack crashing after I've modified it, or is it just a me problem at this point?
It seems Samauri Dynasty is a load bearing mod or something 💀
rare jolt
Yeah, the grass was my attempt to remove the snow
I recommend to change the snow accumulation to 0 in world creation
Its really annoying xd
rare jolt
Anyone have ANY info on Vital Herbs mod? It's ... what?
0 i dont get how it works yet :/
forest wharf
Am I able to get help with the modpack crashing after I've modified it, or is it...
!modified
waxen brookBOT
You are using a modified version of the modpack! This channel is only for unmodified versions that we provide. We cannot guarantee that the modpack works after you do modifications, so please go to #1061339968691257466 if you need help with an issue.
If this is a bug, please make sure to test it in an unmodified version before trying to report it.
scenic tinsel
isnt that a convenient command
scenic tinsel
ask what?
forest wharf
they go "what" when i run a command
scenic tinsel
unfortunate : (
tight coral
What? /j
stable rampart
Uhhhhh this pack is constantly giving "getsockopt" when someone tries to join via LAN. Other packs don't seem to have this issue. Apologies should have been more specific. MMC5 1.21.1 v23 Neoforge is what im on
spring drum
ok- on neoforge MMC5 1.21.1 v23 is there a way to split enchantments- and or is there a way to copy an enchanting book to a new book
(please ping if there's an answer)
limber thorn
Playing on a server with MMC5, legit anytime I die I get kicked for Network Protocol Error. It’s only been happening to 3/6 of the players and it’s only when a player dies. We’ve checked every file between server and us and they all match so I’m genuinely so lost of what the issue is or how to fix it.