#better-mc-forge

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cloud terrace
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What does the issue seem like to you?

jovial rain
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(i think your friend mentioned it in here yesterday too. said same thing)

cloud terrace
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No I don’t have any friends XD

jovial rain
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a complete system freeze, i think you'd want to start with temperatures, just to be sure thats all ok

cloud terrace
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Rest of my online friends run via MacBooks

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Alright il have a look thanks

modest fossil
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Having problems with fps, its really laggy especially when i turn. I allocated 8 gigs and lowered all the settings for high fps and it kind of helped but its still not good im on a mac with plenty of memory and plenty of processors any help is appreciated (im pretty sure a lot of people have the same issue and its probably annoying to answer the same questions again sorry!)

jovial rain
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Try each of the following, testing after each:
Ensure right amount of ram allocated. 8GB for all packs is ok if you have 12GB or more. see ︱faq for how to.
Remove SimpleRPC mod. Rollback FTBChunks to v46. Remove dynamicSurroundings. Remove Performant & optifine and then Install sodium-forge aka Halogen (See ︱faq for link) . Use GDLauncher https://gdevs.io/

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all of that still applies to mac, but the ftbchunks one isnt in this pack

modest fossil
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thanks so much

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ill screenshot so i wont lose it

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thx

cloud terrace
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@jovial rain just want to ask other than allocating ram giving high priority and low settings in game is there anything else I can do

jovial rain
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or drivers too i guess

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give your pc a good going over and see if theres firmware/driver updates for your motherboard, gpu etc

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check temperatures and that they are within spec

cloud terrace
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No clue how to check temperature

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Everything else I know

high oak
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whats the mod where you can cut the whole tree with shift clicking

modest fossil
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i know it but idk the name

high oak
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where can i find the modlist

mighty pecan
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is there a modlist with links?

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jk found it

cloud terrace
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@jovial rain what pc temp is bad?

jovial rain
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below 85 should be safe on any cpu in the last few years

cloud terrace
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Im getting 45-50

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not running mc

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Ima try running it now

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Should i run it via curseforge?

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Or something else

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@jovial rain

jovial rain
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if it was crashing trying to load up, sure

cloud terrace
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nah it would crahs while in the wrold

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world*

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its running and im still getting 50-55

jovial rain
cloud terrace
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Gpu clock is at 1875

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Fan speed 1500 and increasing

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Gpu temperature 57 and increasing

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1600 61 now @jovial rain

jovial rain
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thats fine

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nice n cool

cloud terrace
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Should I increase the fan speed

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It’s at 27

jovial rain
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so prob not an over heating issue. i would make sure your motherboards got all up to date firmware, check drivers for gpu too

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nah the gpu will be fine up to 100c

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let it handle it itself

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you got nothing to worry about there so far

cloud terrace
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Alright ima close it for now

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Ok so o need to check motherboard date firmware’s and drivers gpu

jovial rain
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yep just check official sites of whoever made them to see

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dont go to one of those 'fix all your pc problems' sites

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cos its a scam

cloud terrace
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I did the smart scan

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Says Everything ok but java need to be updated

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could that be the issue

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@jovial rain

jovial rain
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you could try GDlauncher too which uses the more up to date (and faster) java by default

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but i would have expected to run into someone else with this problem before

cloud terrace
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btw whats the date firmware

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no clue what that is

jovial rain
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? not sure what you mean

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when in doubt go to the manufacturesrs page and they will have some sorta auto updater

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any big manufactuere at least

cloud terrace
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So nvidia?

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which is one im running via

jovial rain
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well thats your gpu

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they dont make motherboards, that'd be like asus or gigabyte

cloud terrace
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So what do i need to do then

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Im confused

cloud terrace
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Driver Gpu is fine

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its the other one im confused about

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Also might help if i have Java 8 and 16 installed...

cerulean lark
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Question about a better Minecraft server what does this necessarily mean

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Xmx and Xms set the maximum and minimum RAM usage, respectively.

They can take any number, followed by an M or a G.

M means Megabyte, G means Gigabyte.

For example, to set the maximum to 3GB: -Xmx3G

To set the minimum to 2.5GB: -Xms2500M

A good default for a modded server is 4GB.

Uncomment the next line to set it.

-Xmx4G****

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i have zero to no experince with servers

stone flax
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megabyre and gigabyte is self eexplanatory

cerulean lark
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so how does one set it

stone flax
cerulean lark
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well yes i understand that bit but how do i put in what i want yk what i mean

cerulean lark
stone flax
cerulean lark
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no

stone flax
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what is ur server host

cerulean lark
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personal

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user_jvm_args?

stone flax
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u have the run.batr file

cerulean lark
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yes

stone flax
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open it in note pad or some app

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that u can type in

cerulean lark
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the .bat?

stone flax
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yes

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u done?

cerulean lark
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yest

stone flax
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open it

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and u see

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-Xmx8G -Xms8G

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number could be different

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but u see it right?

cerulean lark
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i do not see that all i see is

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REM Forge requires a configured set of both JVM and program arguments.
REM Add custom JVM arguments to the user_jvm_args.txt
REM Add custom program arguments {such as nogui} to this file in the next line before the %* or
REM pass them to this script directly
java @user_jvm_args.txt @libraries/net/minecraftforge/forge/1.17.1-37.0.68/win_args.txt %*
pause

stone flax
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that is not the run.bat file

edgy mica
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forge 1.17 is different

stone flax
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oh wait rlly?

cerulean lark
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im lost bro

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no server ive ran had this

edgy mica
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open user_jvm_args.txt

cerulean lark
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okay

edgy mica
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yes 1.17.1 has changed everything

cerulean lark
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i see

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what do i do with the args

stone flax
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min and max amount of ram

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ur server will use

edgy mica
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change the -Xmx4G

white thicket
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I saw something about a recommended shader but I cant find it now

cerulean lark
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after i change the -Xmx4G do i just save it or what else

untold shadow
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is there a better minecraft sever?

untold shadow
stone flax
white thicket
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is there a recommended shader?

stone flax
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idk

untold shadow
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(intel grapic card)

white thicket
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as in you dont have one?

jovial rain
visual furnace
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Specs?

visual furnace
untold shadow
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thease are my othe specs

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@visual furnace

weary geode
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Does anyone know why armor is 2 and 4.5

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Whats the second value

jovial rain
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toughness

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and the yellow arrow on the netherite is knockback support

visual furnace
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must have really hit the silicon lottery 3 times in a row

visual furnace
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i barely hit 60 with a r7 4800h and rtx 2060

untold shadow
visual furnace
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no

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more like 120

untold shadow
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with rtx 2060

untold shadow
visual furnace
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i do have my desktop pc which has a ryzen 7 3700x 32gb ram and a 5700xt

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but i only use the gpu currently so hopefully i can host my server on it..

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would save me a little money

jovial rain
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120 fps on a 2060.. yer somethings holding that back

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unless thats with shaders, in which case.. no problems there 😛

visual furnace
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i honestly dont know out of my head

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ill go check now lmao

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well im using a nvidia card on linux

jovial rain
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ah

visual furnace
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yeah

jovial rain
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so thats like automatic 30%fps loss 😛

visual furnace
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sad there are no amd cards on laptops

jovial rain
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but at least its not amd XD

grand gate
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how much ram should I get when hosting a server from a server hoster

visual furnace
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wdym

grand gate
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when its gonna be like 4 people

jovial rain
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amx linux drivers.. oh boy are they awful

visual furnace
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amd is way better for me

jovial rain
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or last i every looked into it

visual furnace
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amd drivers are open source

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nvidia not

jovial rain
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oh yeah i guess they did make that change

visual furnace
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yeah

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really helps when using linux

jovial rain
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i mean, they barely had linux support when i last cared 😛

visual furnace
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lmao

abstract helm
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question, if i remove mods from the pack will anything mess up (like quests or generation or whatever)?

visual furnace
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depends on what mods you remove

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why would you want to remove mods though?

jovial rain
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:p

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depends on the mod obviously

abstract helm
visual furnace
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theres kinda 2 ways to find out

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  1. do it on your own world
  2. do it on a singleplayer
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ok name them?

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speaking of mods

abstract helm
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waystones, dragon mount, simple storage network, openblocks elevator, carry on

visual furnace
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whats the mod that gives magma cubes the ability to do 6 hearts damage with p4 netherite boots/chestplate and p4 diamond helm?

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hmm

jovial rain
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so far so good. i think dragon mount is a quest reward so you'll get a purple missing item thing instead

visual furnace
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dragon mount could go away same as waystones i think

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^

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also in chests

jovial rain
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but so far none of them are gonna break things

visual furnace
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bro i looted this desert temple thing yesterday and i got like 4 aether eggs and 5 saddles

abstract helm
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thanks

visual furnace
jovial rain
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does f3 show any pending uploads to gpu, left hand side stat

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just under chunk culling section

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if so, thats a gpu bottleneck

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if not, cpu/memory or just plain old MC bottleneck

visual furnace
jovial rain
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yeah that should rarely ever show anything

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whats the buffer count immediatley under that one?

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i think the 2060 should show up with like 12?

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my 1060 has 8

visual furnace
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16

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and it drops down when the pending uploads go up

jovial rain
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yeah its a gpu backlog alright

visual furnace
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ill try updating my drivers again

jovial rain
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under video options, advanced

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is there a chunk multidraw option? enable it

visual furnace
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i dont have any advanced tab

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dont have optifine/sodium thing

jovial rain
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wasnt sure if it was there or not

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i thought it was a vanilla option though but might have diff name

visual furnace
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vanilla rarely has things like that

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only like

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clouds off and graphics fancy/fast

jovial rain
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fair

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you shoud give halogen a shot though

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i suspect that will unleash the beast a bit more

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took me from 140 fps to 200+ on my 1060 at 1440

visual furnace
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damn

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im on 1080p lmao

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currently waiting on my monitor to fully die out before buying another one

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it already has a green line on the left side going from bottom to top

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its a 1920x1080 180hz and im broke

opaque canopy
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You can also use an entity culling mod for a few extra frames

grand gate
jovial rain
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i can just squeese 60fps out with shaders with some heavy tweaking :p

opaque canopy
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Does Better Minecraft have to be played on the caves and cliffs backport world type?

opaque canopy
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Cool, ty. Any world types we should avoid?

jovial rain
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superflat tends to get a bit boring 🙂

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amplified should be avoided at all costs, that brings servers to its knees

opaque canopy
hard jolt
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hi, do i have to download the server pack for every update that comes out?

jovial rain
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todays was brought out to stop a crash so prob worth it

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but nothing says you have to upgrade to v39

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when that rolls around

hard jolt
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ok, so i just backup the world folder and then i put it in the new server folder?

jovial rain
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thats the safest way yep

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fresh install of server, move world across

hard jolt
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ok thanks

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also, is there a guide to follow or there are only the quests ? im new on this modpack, so id like to have a wiki

jovial rain
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but. theres the advancements as always , manuals etc

hard jolt
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oh ok

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sorry again.. "Put this into the JVM Arguments box for your modded game".. do i have to put it in the run.bat?

jovial rain
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not sure where youre getting that info from but its prob on about client?

hard jolt
jovial rain
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ah thats clientside

grand gate
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does the fabric version also work with the server

jovial rain
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'the server'... sigh. no fabric and forge and all the packs are seperate and will not work with each other

jovial rain
grand gate
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i have the curseforge app

jovial rain
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if youre using curseforge , consider switching 😉
otherwise its in the cog wheel settings thingo bottom left, then minecraft, and scroll down to the section for it

hard jolt
jovial rain
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good choice, GD just makes life easier

ocean saddle
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So in the latest version we got all the varied plantations removed?

teal radish
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mixed a Sharpness V with an ancient Tome that gives +1 sharpness level and it won't combine them? anyone knows how to solve this?

ocean saddle
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Don't you have to add the tome to a tool instead of another book?

teal radish
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i tried that and it didn't work either

thorny kite
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idk if theres a specal place for this but when i try to join my world i keep crashing error code is 0 im using 10gb of ram btw

hearty seal
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s

thorny kite
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i got it today

jovial rain
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you prob killed an illager general recently

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er how long ago cos the pack update came out today too :p

thorny kite
jovial rain
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yeah prob not that then

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and i'll have a look

thorny kite
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k

alpine raft
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i tried downloading the latest and the version before for the forge version but it keeps saying theres an issue with reaching the web client or something like that

jovial rain
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sounds like a normal curseforge thing

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as in, it aint reliable a bunch of times

alpine raft
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is there a way to get around it?

jovial rain
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try GDlauncher which tends to manage better

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its a better launcher anyway

alpine raft
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ok

grand gate
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what version is this server on

sly sorrel
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my whole pc freezes when try to run better minecraft forge 1.17.1 v4

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have to restart my pc

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can someone tell me why that is happening?

grand gate
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did you install requied stuff for it like jave runtime and stuff

jovial rain
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i presume its freezing mid game

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not on launch

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but whole pc frozen is really unusual.. but you are the 2nd person today to have it. different packs too i think

grand gate
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one thing also to do is maybe turn off win update and any background apps

jovial rain
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^ number of times ive had to tell that to people: 0

jovial rain
sly sorrel
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tried twice same thing happen

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i think i uninstal the pack

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who was the first person? to have this

jovial rain
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somebody much earlier today

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and because they were literally the first ever, i had them looking for hardware troubles

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i never did actually confirm the pack they were using though

grand gate
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shads what version is the pack on

jovial rain
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@cloud terrace when youre back, and if you see this, let me know what pack and version youre getting hard freezes on please

jovial rain
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1.17 is like.. super early days and only 30% of the content

grand gate
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ty

teal radish
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btw we killed one the other day and it crashed the server lol, luckily we had a back up but why did that happen?

grand gate
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i just got failed to sync reg data whats this

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from the server that has 5 players on it

jovial rain
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since fixed

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thats why 38.5 came out

grand gate
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so what i do then to get working

jovial rain
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you read the post carefully

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where it talks about what version

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and what extra mods to install if any

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and it is no good saying 'the one with 5 people on it'

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we dont all have those servers showing in our game

grand gate
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lol

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i dont know what server you guys are on if theres no ip or infoe in the list

jovial rain
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wtf are you on about.. most of us arent even on serves open to the public

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just.. pick a server that is open, read the instructions, do what it says and connect

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if you cant manage that, then i guess its singlke player for you

opaque canopy
jovial rain
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oh yeah quark ancient tomes dont work

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instead, go find out about the 'great hunger' and learn how he works 🙂

opaque canopy
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Shads do they not work because theyre just busted or bc of the config, bc they are off in the config by default

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I enabled them but havent tested it yet

haughty flax
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so I uhm

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heard a ghast

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but I was in the overworld

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so I went thru my portal to check and there was a creeper with a backpack

opaque canopy
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you probably heard a wraith

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from dungeon mobs

teal radish
sour wolf
opaque canopy
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but idek if that fixes the issue

teal radish
opaque canopy
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Did it work?

teal radish
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it worked in single player but the server won't turn on now for some reason

stray furnace
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how can I find everdawn's poison dungeon?

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blue skies maps are really boring

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nevermind

jovial rain
stray furnace
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I already found it after I almost think that the worlsgen might be bug

jovial rain
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people always think that but no

stray furnace
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this is how far I have to run through this boring map

jovial rain
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thats nothing

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holy hell its like everyone wants to see all the dungeons lined up in a row for them

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think about how far end strongholds are

simple condor
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Or elytra ships once you make it to the end. XD

ocean saddle
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Does the end trader villager spawn in a specific place?

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Or do you have to give a normal villager a specific workbench like any other job

stray furnace
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at least end fortress have ender eyes

restive cypress
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now the crash is not cuz of mods

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it just happens after it says loading minecraft

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this is the last thing i see

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oh wait

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memory

jovial rain
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you failed to allocate memory

hardy nebula
jovial rain
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so it was cos of mods, and user error :p

restive cypress
hardy nebula
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one of my viewers got this strange resource issue

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or well texture issue

restive cypress
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still crashed

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it works on my mac but not on my pc

jovial rain
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well seeing as i see no other usable information here to help you... use your mac

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or you could give something more then a flipping red loading screen to go on

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like i dunno.. a log file

restive cypress
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oh yeah should i mention it doesnt provide a crash log

jovial rain
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thats fine, it still has a normal log and maybe a debug

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wait

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optifine

restive cypress
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i sent latest

jovial rain
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define ... crash.

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because if you tell me its going 'not responding' then its because youre clicking

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or alt tabbing or whatever

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if its closing, on its own, thats a crash

restive cypress
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nope it just closes after launching minecraft

restive cypress
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then crashes

jovial rain
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[10:34:19] [main/INFO]: [optifine.OptiFineTransformer:getOptiFineResourcePatched:414]: java.io.IOException: Base resource not found: x.class
[10:34:19] [main/INFO]: [optifine.OptiFineTransformer:getOptiFineResourcePatched:414]: at optifine.Patcher.applyPatch(Patcher.java:146)

restive cypress
jovial rain
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pretty clear here, optifine isnt handling things

restive cypress
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hm

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that sucks

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cuz i saw a youtuber yesterday play this pack w shaders

jovial rain
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yep lots of people do

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so what else have you loaded into this

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optiforge? cos thats a mistake

restive cypress
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nope

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idek what that is

jovial rain
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good, make sure you dont bother with it

restive cypress
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still crashed even after removing optifine

jovial rain
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whats the gpu in this rig?

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ok new log then

restive cypress
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legacy jdk i think thats java

hardy nebula
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shads once ur done helping ash could you scroll up and look at the screenshot and possibly give me a rundown for a fix? xd

jovial rain
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@hardy nebula i think a priest is in order there ;P

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i'd say they screwed with resourc epack order

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compare theirs to yours and should get them going again

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Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/util/Util

restive cypress
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curseforge launcher

jovial rain
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thats it

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nothing extra (apart from optifine?)

restive cypress
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nope

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should i try playing it on a diff one

jovial rain
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i mean this error tells me its nothing to do with the pack and you couldnt launch modded mc of any sort 😛

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look we recommend GDlauncher for good reason. it uses the better java, faster, sets up JVM better

restive cypress
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well thats strange because i usually can

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ok ill check that out then

jovial rain
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also just check task manager for any left over java applications running that shouldnt be

restive cypress
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java update scheduler

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thats all i see

jovial rain
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auto is fine

restive cypress
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ok what do i do here

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safe

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ok its downloading

jovial rain
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yep then download the pack and see

restive cypress
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right

jovial rain
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when did you download it?

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few days back CF was really broken for downloads

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and then a period earlier tonight too

restive cypress
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a while ago

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i got it to play sevtech w my friends

jovial rain
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i meant the pack

restive cypress
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oh

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recently

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like last week

jovial rain
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yer prob on the day it was all getting corrupted then

restive cypress
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maybe

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how come adding a zip file isnt working

teal radish
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LEVELS FOR EXPERIMENT WITH THE BLOODY QUARK MOD

jovial rain
teal radish
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nevermind fixed it

restive cypress
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nvm

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also does hwyla not work with this pack?

jovial rain
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stop adding shit to it before you even know whats in it

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it has jade, which is a hwyla fork

restive cypress
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ah

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lol

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thanks

tulip mantle
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What mods should i use to get more fps with this modpack ? Im already using optifine with this mod

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but that doesn't seem to be enough

jovial rain
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one cut n paste coming in hot @tulip mantle

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Try each of the following, testing after each:
Ensure right amount of ram allocated. 8GB for all packs is ok if you have 12GB or more. see ︱faq for how to.
Remove SimpleRPC mod. Rollback FTBChunks to v46. Remove dynamicSurroundings. Remove Performant & optifine and then Install sodium-forge aka Halogen (See ︱faq for link) . Use GDLauncher https://gdevs.io/

tulip mantle
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Im already using 10gb ram for the launcher also does that mod Halogen support shaders ?

jovial rain
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no

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shaders or fps, pick one :p

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not too many get to enjoy both

restive cypress
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what is simple rpc

tulip mantle
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Im only looking to get more fps when playing with a shader since i have a really good pc but for some reason i get really low fps with shaders with this modpack

jovial rain
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discord prescence mod

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i mean people get over 100fps on 2080s with shaders

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just a matter of tuning your own system

tulip mantle
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Im not sure it's that, i only have this problem with Minecraft

haughty flax
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are there any natural waystones in the nether?

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points*

jovial rain
haughty flax
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alright

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Im just lost in nether so

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maybe find a portal and

jovial rain
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should be possible to make one from scratch there

haughty flax
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ah alr

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thanks

jovial rain
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enderman spawn there in some biomes more then others

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the rest is just purple dye, stone and er.. thats it?

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nothign too hard at any rate

haughty flax
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yea alr thanks

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idk how to get purple dye in nether but ill figure it out

merry cargo
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omg

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how do i flix my server

zinc nova
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What server host are you using ?

merry cargo
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Aternos

jovial rain
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ahaha what did you do @merry cargo

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what did you do

zinc nova
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YES

merry cargo
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Nothing

merry cargo
zinc nova
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As i expected

merry cargo
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I created the world on v38

merry cargo
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how to fix

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plz

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aa

zinc nova
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I can not recommended you use Aternos

merry cargo
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Too bad im poor sorry

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XD

jovial rain
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just click the 'do nothings'

merry cargo
jovial rain
#

its actually just telling you youve upgraded and stuff might be wonky

merry cargo
jovial rain
#

yeah thats a whole other problem kekw

merry cargo
#

and whats that?

#

plz help me

jovial rain
#

did yo uupgrade your profile to 38.5 too ?

merry cargo
#

oh

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lmfapo

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im stupid

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sry

jovial rain
merry cargo
#

LMAO

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BYE TY

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god im satupi

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dstupid

haughty flax
#

is it normal to find a huge wall in the nether

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blocking

haughty flax
#

everything

merry cargo
haughty flax
#

...

jovial rain
merry cargo
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lol

jovial rain
#

er wait, does normal BMC have it on that splash.. i cant remember :p

spring bone
#

In this modpack https://puu.sh/IcYzA/6a8aa3b268.png people complain that the hunger goes down faster then normally like half a bar when they have been in a cave for 2 mins, so i had to check if its some setting in the config i need to change

haughty flax
#

whats splash lmao

merry cargo
#

loading screen

haughty flax
#

all I see is wall

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and it goes infinite up and down and left and right

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or at least long

merry cargo
#

mine through it

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to get to heaven

haughty flax
#

I dont have unbreaking on my pic Sadge

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Its gonna break

merry cargo
#

then get it

haughty flax
#

thanks Bird

merry cargo
#

if u have netherite u have enchanting table

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yah np im pro gamer

haughty flax
#

I do but

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exp

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is pain

teal radish
#

where do i get a list of the enchantments and what they do? i would love to know about the pyromencer and the charm enchantments

merry cargo
#

just get exp

haughty flax
#

tanks a lot

merry cargo
#

np

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craft exp

jovial rain
#

if you search that, then hold shift in the JEI i think it goes thru them all

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charms, you'll have to read their (pretty good) documentation

haughty flax
#

oh I think I got past the wall

#

well that was weird

tulip mantle
#

If i get Halogen mod i can't use shaders just like on fabric with Sodium and the other mod which allows for shaders ?

jovial rain
#

correct you cant

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dont know why we're going around this conversation again

#

did you think i got it wrong when i said you couldnt have shaders with halogen?

tulip mantle
#

I just thought there will be another mod for it

spring bone
#

So no one knows why hunger is bugged on this modpack? lol

ocean saddle
#

its not for me

jovial rain
#

wanna volunteer some time ? :p

restive cypress
#

ok so its not that the game doesnt work

#

its just long wait times

spring bone
icy arrow
#

So how does the storage remote work as a charm?

#

Am dumb, I found out. It's a keybind

jovial rain
#

wait it can be a charm? noice

mystic flare
#

im curious what mods were updated for v38.5

grand gate
#

does anyone know why all my bamboo and cacti is black and purple?

turbid pendant
#

Why is simple farming removed ?

severe whale
#

does anyone know why i cant place lanterns on blocks or fences. it only allows them to be hung from things

jovial rain
#

torch slab mod

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its basically broken and doesnt let you do anything else cept what it enables

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so just delete it

severe whale
#

oh

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thank you very much my friend

devout fractal
#

what folder do i put his in and can it be extracted

#

@burnt flower

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@severe whale

tough field
#

thief hood?

#

it says 0/50 mobs slain

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and then 50/100

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and so on

burnt flower
#

then search the pack

devout fractal
#

ok

hearty seal
#

It is possible to set the server to work with plugins along with this modpack?
I used mohist but the server crashes :/

#

Both on the latest version and build

limber patrol
#

How do you get the health steal enchantment from the Nether Agriculture mod?
The curseforge page doesn't say anything about it

warped ingot
#

What order should the texture packs be in?

jovial rain
#

dont touch them, they are fine as is

#

the ones that arent activated can break stuff

warped ingot
#

Okay, thanks

strange prawn
#

Heya, i got a tad of a dumb question. When hosting a server how can I increase the max ram for it?

jovial rain
#

-xmx5G

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that would indicated 5gB max

strange prawn
#

No, the one I downloaded from the page on forge doesn't have -xmx and is kinda why I am confused

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OH IM DUMB

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IT LOADS IT FROM ANOTHER FILE

jovial rain
#

ah yeah

strange prawn
#

xD

jovial rain
#

thats a fabric thing then

strange prawn
#

Yeah, seems like it

jovial rain
#

this is forge channel, hence why i didnt say it :p

strange prawn
#

I thought I was using forge too, that's why I used this chat

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The server installer is called forge installer too. Huh

jovial rain
#

ok maybe the new server packs all use that method now

neat orchid
#

Are there any mods I can add that can increase the performance/FPS

strange prawn
#

either way, thanks for the help!

hollow raven
#

what do i do when this pops up when trying to install?

jovial rain
#

or try another launcher

hollow raven
#

thx

fringe walrus
#

i need help

#

my world wont load

#

plz help

turbid pendant
#

Does it crash ? @fringe walrus ?

grand gate
#

What is diffrence between better minecraft packs forge plus fabric ?

random elbow
#

what dimensions are in this version?

jolly forge
#

Setting up a server on a mac, is there an alternative to run.bat for a mac to run?

#

I've created a command file which reads:

#!/bin/bash
cd "$(dirname "$0")"
exec java -Xmx16G -Xms16G -jar forge-1.16.5-36.2.4.jar nogui

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No luck

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For reference, the run.bat file reads as:

#

java -Xmx5G -Xms5G -jar forge-1.16.5-36.2.4.jar nogui
PAUSE

boreal edge
#

what the point to the other fishing rods? more durability?

jovial rain
jolly forge
#

Is it safe to post the terminal readout on here? Nothing too revealing?

jovial rain
#

nobodies ever worried about that before

#

i mean, we'll prob see your username 🙂

jolly forge
#

Last login: Tue Sep 21 23:16:42 on ttys000
/Users/alex/Documents/server\ attempt\ 2/start.command ; exit;
ci19008:~ alex$ /Users/alex/Documents/server\ attempt\ 2/start.command ; exit;
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: net/minecraftforge/server/ServerMain : Unsupported major.minor version 52.0
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClassCond(ClassLoader.java:637)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:621)
at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:141)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:283)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(URLClassLoader.java:58)
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:197)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:190)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:301)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:247)
logout
Saving session...
...copying shared history...
...saving history...truncating history files...
...completed.

[Process completed]

boreal edge
#

also do the aquatic fishes work for the dragons?

jovial rain
#

java version might be the issue here

#

1.17 needs java16, rest need java 8 or 11

jolly forge
#

I have Java 8

#

worth a reinstall?

jovial rain
#

im not certain

#

its definitely not happy about something version-y

#

UnsupportedClassVersionError: net/minecraftforge/server/ServerMain : Unsupported major.minor version 52.0

jolly forge
#

Maybe my MacOS version?

boreal edge
#

shads do the aquatic agriculture fish work with the dragons?

jovial rain
#

should do

#

but its not exactly a factoid i'd memorise on purpose 😛

boreal edge
#

best answer i got

#

got a whole inv of fish cause i got 2 aether dragon eggs from a tower

jovial rain
#

see what it returns. but also what server are you trying to run

boreal edge
#

they do work

#

thank god

jolly forge
#

oh curious

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java version "1.6.0_65"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_65-b14-468)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.65-b04-468, mixed mode)

[Process completed]

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I swear I just downloaded and installed Java 8 from the Java website

jovial rain
#

haha

#

you might have

#

but java 1.6 is still default

jolly forge
#

Cheers pal

jovial rain
#

once you get that sorted you should be sweet yeah

jolly forge
#

Also what server am i trying to run? Just one for a few friends

jovial rain
#

well i was more wondering 1.17 vs 1.16.5

#

but as it turns out it was the other direction, even older version of java :p

jolly forge
#

1.16.5 yeah

neat orchid
#

Are there any mods I can add that can increase the performance/FPS

jolly forge
#

Curious... I've installed Java 8, it doesn't seem to recognise Java 8

#

No

#

Java is telling me it's Java 8, the terminal it's version 1.6

boreal edge
#

how do i get out of the world at bedrock?

cedar totem
#

How can I play Better Minecraft on Lan with friends?

jovial rain
#

but if you know the folder where java 1.8 is

#

change your bash script to point straight at the java executible there

grand gate
#

visible confusion

jolly forge
#

Noted.

#

It's getting late here so I've packed in for the night. I'll try that tomorrow

dusk veldt
#

in the latest release i'm in the abyss and whenever i join my world i'm permanently in flying mode and nothing is loading (i.e. i can't eat, use, or interact with anything)
it also places me in the same spot every time i join after closing the game (which i have to do via task manager because the game won't save)
if anyone knows about the problem and/or a solution i'd be grateful!

jovial rain
#

low as it can go

#

if that gets you into the world safely do not move

dusk veldt
#

i'll try that out

jovial rain
#

whatever is bricking your world is outside the minimum render range and if you bring it into range.. then youre screweed

#

if that works, exit immediately and take a backup

#

cos if you run into the problem zone with minimum render, youre screwed

dusk veldt
#

will do

#

alright so i tried a few times and it finally worked but i had to reduce my rd before loading the world

#

thanks!

jovial rain
#

well

#

whatever is out there is still going to brick it @dusk veldt

#

if you stumble into it at rd2 then its unfixable

dusk veldt
#

i was standing still at 2rd and everything was fine

#

so i'm making a backup now

jovial rain
#

ok good make that backup

#

but yeah the problem is youre now between 2 and 8 chunks away from the chunk which will brick it

#

or whatever your old RD was

dusk veldt
#

16

jovial rain
#

but that is in any direction from you

#

pick the wrong way at reduced RD and if you hit it again youre stuffed and have to revert

dusk veldt
#

i didn't purposely reduce my rd before entering the world it's just that it was left that way from my first attempt

#

i'm pretty sure if i just head back to 0,0 i will be fine

#

i'm not far from it

jovial rain
#

yep jsut avoid that general area

#

ive seen this once before and they moved 2 chunks away and ran into it again and this time stuffed for good

#

(cept for backup)

#

some mod is spawning stuff it shoudnt be there and causes an internal server crash

dusk veldt
#

was it in the abyss?

short pasture
#

how can i make the water bucket work like it is in vanilla? it's so bad to need to face a solid block to be able to grab a water source.

jovial rain
jovial rain
#

that behavior also turns buckets into that behavior

#

kinda curious now though if thats actually right. working on 2nd hand info

opaque canopy
#

I agree with Forge, that function is so obnoxious lmao

jovial rain
#

i had a look, cant actually see what causes it

#

wouldnt mind it working the normal way myself

tough field
#

should I be looking for something here? can't find anything worth checking

opaque canopy
#

It might be one of the water themed mods trying to make it easier to catch fish in a bucket rather than grabbing the water source blocks

cloud terrace
#

@jovial rain hey man

#

past 24 hour been doing a lot of shit

#

Still shits my pc after 20min or so

jovial rain
#

someone else had the same problem as you too

cloud terrace
#

rly

jovial rain
#

which mod pack ar eyou playing?

#

1.17 by any chance?

cloud terrace
#

no

#

1.16.5

jovial rain
#

rip

cloud terrace
#

Wait lemme check

#

yeh 1.16.5

jovial rain
#

so unless somethings slipped into 2 different apcks its prob just coincidence

#

what happens if you spawn a new world and then.. afk for 30 minutes

cloud terrace
#

i just dont know what to do now

jovial rain
#

like.. i want your cpu/gpu doing work, but i dont want minecraft doing much cept ticking over

cloud terrace
#

Well when i get in a world after about 20 so minutes the game freezeing

#

and then the pc is unresponsive

#

So i have to force shut it

jovial rain
#

yer but thats with you doing stuff

#

i kinda just want MC running, but idling. no new chunk generations

cloud terrace
#

Alright il try that

#

so just spawn in dont move

jovial rain
#

its not going to confirm 100% but if you still crash staring at the floor or whatever, its still eliminated other things

cloud terrace
#

Is there anythign mod wise i should change?

#

iv seen you tell other to delete some mods and add some to help

#

Nvm i tryed to load up a world and it crashed

jovial rain
#

crash, but not freeze?

#

or did you still have to hard reset

cloud terrace
#

@jovial rain crash

#

I loaded into world

#

1min now my of shit itself

#

No buttons work

#

Pain 10,000

jovial rain
#

did you try the other launcher? GDlauncher?

cloud terrace
#

It crashes

#

I have crash report

jovial rain
#

oh aan actual crash report

#

usable info

#

lets see it

cloud terrace
#

Lemme get it

#

Its A Java exit code 0

#

@jovial rain

#

thats all i was given

solar portal
#

Seems there's a lot of crash and dowload errors going on.

jovial rain
#

oh i thought you meant actual crash report file

jovial rain
stone flax
cloud terrace
#

no clue what that is

jovial rain
#

hes freezing mid-game @stone flax

#

like

#

pc locked up freeze

stone flax
cloud terrace
#

Yeh

jovial rain
#

and just occasional crashes

solar portal
#

I tried downloading from the curseforge app, and I got a manifest error. I tried downloading it from the website to install manually, and none of the mods are in the file, just an html file linking to all of them. :/

jovial rain
#

try GDlauncher

#

they built in some robustness to handle things a bit better

stone flax
#

did he allocate enough ram etc

solar portal
#

GDLauncher? Never heard of it.

cloud terrace
#

Everything you can think off

#

we have done

stone flax
jovial rain
#

doesnt hurt to have a 2nd opinion

solar portal
#

agh, just realized I'm speaking in the forge channel, not the fabric channel

#

Still, do you have a link to this GDLauncher? Never heard of it and looking it up isn't bringing up any sites that appear legitimate.

jovial rain
#

@stone flax youve been doign this longer then me, how often you hear about literal PC freezes that werent hardware?

stone flax
stone flax
#

so like the entire pc is forxen

jovial rain
#

thats my gut feeling too

#

yeah hard reset required

stone flax
#

ok is it bmc forge or any modpack

jovial rain
#

yeah thats the next step, i asked him to try new world and not moving

#

but doesnt sound liek that went well

#

was going to go straight to vanilla

cloud terrace
#

Went worse tbh

jovial rain
#

what about that then @cloud terrace

#

just plain vanilla mc

cloud terrace
#

Works fine

stone flax
#

has he tried smth liek atm6?

jovial rain
#

as in, youve tested since this freezig issue started?

cloud terrace
#

I can run pixelmon crazy craft

#

Atm6 same issue

#

As this

stone flax
#

maybe his pc cant hanedle much mods?

severe whale
#

is there any reason why the anvil textures (among other textures) are broken?

jovial rain
#

decnt spec i think wasnt it

#

it all blurs

cloud terrace
#

Yeh lemme check specs

#

1 sec

jovial rain
stray vale
jovial rain
#

^

stone flax
#

send the crash report

severe whale
#

all i did was put some of the resource packs on that the game came with

#

could that have don eit?

stone flax
#

do you have optifine

severe whale
#

i do have optifine y eah. all players having the issue do

stone flax
#

yup

severe whale
#

some of the elderdruid leaves have teh same issue

stone flax
#

optifine is buggy af

cloud terrace
#

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10400F CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz

#

thats my pc

severe whale
#

i dont know why it would break the anvils though.. thats just vanilla

stone flax
#

remving it should solve it

cloud terrace
#

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10400F CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
8.00 GB
64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

stone flax
cloud terrace
#

Thats most the info

#

Thats via About this pc'

stone flax
cloud terrace
#

Like 7g

stone flax
#

im guessing teh 8gb is the max ram

#

@jovial rain might have found the issue

cloud terrace
#

I swear if you guys can fix this il be so greatfull

#

iv had thos issue for months with this modpack and atm6 5 etc

stone flax
cloud terrace
#

ok

#

hold u[

stone flax
#

close google or any app besides minecraft and discord

cloud terrace
#

Iv set gd laucnher

#

to 6.1G

#

its that or 5.6G

#

Which one/

#

@stone flax

stone flax
#

hmmm

stone flax
#

if it crahes try stay true

cloud terrace
#

Alr its loading

wind nest
#

hey quick really stupid question-

cloud terrace
#

World loading so far no crash

stone flax
#

aight

stone flax
cloud terrace
#

Says joining world

#

Ok I’m in

#

It crashes in like 5min from now

wind nest
#

Im in fact, dumb. and dont quite understand setting up my own server off my laptop so I use third party server stuff. will the pack still work if I download the mods to the third party server and then join?

#

I hope that made sense ;u;

stone flax
wind nest
#

awesome! thank you my dude

stone flax
#

and u have the client pack tho

wind nest
#

not entirely sure how to do that- I just kinda individually added all the mods that I could

stone flax
#

ur server wont start

#

hold on

wind nest
#

like Im using aternos for this since it's for a friend

stone flax
wind nest
#

ah

stone flax
#

it cant habndle any modpacks tbh

#

i played it withjust ice and fire

#

and it constantly crashed

wind nest
#

does the curseforge launcher actually work? because any time I try to open it I just get the white loading screen of death

boreal edge
#

how do you get arcs?

wind nest
#

I followed the video exactly ;n;

stone flax
#

ask what is wrong

#

@cloud terrace has it crashed?

wind nest
#

is there a way to do it without the launcher?

cloud terrace
#

OMG ITS WORKING

#

ITS FIXED

stone flax
cloud terrace
#

is there a smp?

stone flax
cloud terrace
#

Is there like a main one

#

'like one hosted by the owner

stone flax
#

its not public cause hosting a server isnt cheap

cloud terrace
#

it sayts theres a public smp

stone flax
#

and its for an upcomming modpack

#

which is not released yet

cloud terrace
#

Ah but when it comes out will I be able to join it?

boreal edge
#

how does the filter system work in the diamond backpack

jovial rain
stone flax
jovial rain
#

lol

boreal edge
#

it wont input the coal into the backpack

cloud terrace
#

Plus I can just buy 16

jovial rain
#

nope this is on me

#

you said 'other then allocating ram'

#

which i presumed ' i checked and didnt do a silly' 😉

boreal edge
#

the filter upgrade isnt working

neat orchid
#

Are there any mods I can add that can increase the performance/FPS?

stone flax
#

and add sodium reforged

jovial rain
#

@neat orchid Try each of the following, testing after each:
Ensure right amount of ram allocated. 8GB for all packs is ok if you have 12GB or more. see ︱faq for how to.
Remove SimpleRPC mod. Rollback FTBChunks to v46. Remove dynamicSurroundings. Remove Performant & optifine and then Install sodium-forge aka Halogen (See ︱faq for link) . Use GDLauncher https://gdevs.io/

#

^ my FPS fixer upper cut'n'paste

stone flax
#

ok im adding that to my copy paste list

jovial rain
#

its getting rave reviews

#

5 stars all around

#

😉

boreal edge
#

how do you use the filter upgrade for the backpack i use it yet it wont drag the items out of my inv to the backpack

boreal edge
#

for the items ive set

jovial rain
#

it wont drag out of your inventory

#

kinda wish it did though

boreal edge
#

what does it do than?

jovial rain
#

it intercepts before it gets to your inventory at all

#

eg magnet upgrade with filter = slurps up whatever it can based on filter

#

keeps your inventory empty if you just magnet up everything

boreal edge
#

ahhh so i need to add the magnet upgrade to the filter

stark coral
#

My advice would be to fire up a creative world and tinker with it. A lot of the upgrades (especially the void one) can be very frustrating to figure out without just tinkering with them.

boreal edge
mystic flare
#

any ideas for mob farm on this modpack?

stark coral
ocean saddle
#

@mystic flare Well the only thing I can think about is those underground dungeons that you can enter through a pit/well with flowing lava alongside. When you get down there there is a large room with a total of 4 spawners for Husk/Wither Skeleton, it gives a good amount of XP if you set it up right

jovial rain
#

use warp plates to carry them back to your base and yeah, reap the xp

#

i use warp plates at the bottom of the hole that skeles about to be pushed into to warp them upstairs to me

#

then bog standard killing zone setup

turbid lynx
#

whats the best way to get netherite in this mod pack?

ocean saddle
#

@turbid lynx What i personally did was getting Vein mining on a pickaxe with all the other enchants, went to the nether around y15, and mined in stack. then the netherite I got i'd trade with the nether goblin trader to get a little bit more. (5 pieces for 4 ancient debris i think) If you've already beaten the ender dragon you can make a special furnace with the materials you find on the end island(ore and ender pearls) which will give you 3 netherite bits instead of 2, increasing your total amount by 33%

#

Now im not saying those are the most efficient ways but you do get more netherite that way

turbid lynx
#

yeah ik about most of that but today i seen something about trading a heart of the sea to piglins and they give you netherite in return.

ocean saddle
#

Ah well i have no knowledge of that unfortunately

jovial rain
#

my preferred way is raid dungeons in the overworld

#

little riskier then mining but more fun

ancient jungle
#

I have a question my tackle box doesn't want to work, is there a way to fix it?

grand gate
#

is the only way to get custom enchants from dungeons?

untold shadow
#

is 12 fps on inecraft good?

viscid hamlet
#

i killed a pillager captain and my game crashed and now i can not load into the world

ocean saddle
#

Its good only if you think its enough for you

viscid hamlet
#

any idea on how i can get my world to load

static linden
#

that illagers+ mod was the only thing that crashed my game

#

glad they fixed it

grand gate
#

is the enchantment table only able to give vanilla enchants?

ocean saddle
#

It should give the other ones as well

grand gate
#

Ive enchanted over 40 items and got just basic

#

didnt know if i needed a special thing for diff enchants

ocean saddle
#

Hmm maybe it has to do with the latest update then

#

i havent checked since then

#

But maybe 1 or 2 days ago i was still getting the modded enchants alongside the normal ones at the enchanting table

grand gate
ocean saddle
#

They were visible yeah

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All the pyro enchants, aerial affinity, end veil etc etc

grand gate
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damn im probably bugged

ocean saddle
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If an admin doesn't respond here you can open a ticket

grand gate
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ive had to raid so many structures just for one vein miner

ocean saddle
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ill try checking now

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give me 2 minutes

grand gate
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ty

ocean saddle
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Should be working @grand gate

grand gate
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damn yeah i dont have any appearing

ocean saddle
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Do the basic checkups to see if everything is up to date

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Modloader and Modpack

viscid hamlet
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i killed a pillager captain and my game crashed and now i can not load into the world

ocean saddle
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always back up your save

jovial rain
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can save time here

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update to latest pack version

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or upgrade 'illagrs wear armour' to 1.0.5

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known crash and patched already

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@viscid hamlet

viscid hamlet
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Alright thank you so much

deep cobalt
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is there a mechanic that allows you to fly in the end?

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friend doesn't know how he did it but was suddenly able to fly

jovial rain
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they give a levitation effect for a while

deep cobalt
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na, we're talking creative level of flight

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he had it until he just died from the shelterer

gentle wing
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is the normal forge version the best version of the game or should i upgrade to better minecraft plus