better-mc-forge

[peak geyser]

I mean I just spent 2 hours fishing Admiring a beautiful picture of a frozen lake with colorful and spruce trees in the back listening to the bird chirp

So the mini map does help a lot and it is a bit op.. In a sense

[terse thorn]

ye

[peak geyser]

I just don’t abuse it I just use It for a base view

[terse thorn]

I mean it differs with each user ofcourse

[peak geyser]

But anyway creeper spawners !!!

Found it at a dungeon

[terse thorn]

Noice

[peak geyser]

This dungeon

[terse thorn]

maybe I'll make through today without dying in HC on the medieval pack

[peak geyser]

😂

Okay zombie

It was attacking me and I saw it health had 100

Ladies gentlemen I found the chad zombie

[hearty hatch]

that's probably a bug

i don't think you're supposed to be able to interact with anything while holding entities/blocks

[peak geyser]

So your not allowed to move spawners ?

Or ur not allowed to ride the dragon

With the spawner in hand ?

But than again it’s a mount

Bug or not glad I reported it lol

[hearty hatch]

i mean in the sense that you shouldn't be able to ride the dragon while holding a spawner

[peak geyser]

Ahh

[pine crag]

not getting crash reports anymore and still crashing when people join

jk im dumb

This is the latest crash report

[terse thorn]

Either delete the Illagers + mod or add this mod to your server https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/bad-mobs , start it, let it fully load, stop it again, go into configs, find badmobs-common.toml and edit with Notepad, find illagers_plus.enchanter and disable the mob

[terse thorn]

.

[pine crag]

Alr, Ill try that

To delete Illagers+ I just have to delete the file from the mods folder, right?

[terse thorn]

Yes.

[pine crag]

and that wont give other people the "Mods dont match" error when they try to join?

[terse thorn]

Uhh not sure about that, try test running it and joining yourself first

But I think you should be fine

[pine crag]

alr, i got me and someone else trying to play rn so we can test it

seems like that worked, thank you! Do you know why that mod was causing issues?

[terse thorn]

One of the entities, the Enchanter is bugged for some reason

[pine crag]

ahh ok ok

Its being worked on, Im sure right? haha

[terse thorn]

Waiting on a mod update I suppose

[pine crag]

I also want to add some of my own mods, but I dont exactly know how to do that without caushin issues, if you could help :p

There's the fairy lights mod that I want to add to my server

[terse thorn]

Not sure about other mods but I can try to assist

[pine crag]

All I do is add the mod file to the mod files right?

[terse thorn]

Yes

[pine crag]

So, for people who want to join the server, theyre gonna have to add the mod to their files somehow too, right? Where do we do that?

Also, since deleting Illagers plus we cant go into the undergarden haha

We cant join the server now since adding the mod pack :/

It doesnt even give the "unmatched mods" error, it just says were disconnected

[terse thorn]

What does the console say?

[terse thorn]

As for this, send them the mod, everyone can right-click the modpack profile on Curseforge, click "open folder" and drag the mod into the mods folder there.

[true raft]

Does anyone know my crosshair is gone

[hearty hatch]

yes

you just told us

everyone knows now

[true raft]

I'm trying to see if anyone know how to fix it

[fallow furnace]

Hello guys, when i join in my friend multiplayer server , my chunks wont loading i got an "xray glitch" i can see trought the chunks and i can scan doungeons etc.. but i cant see dirt and another blocks when i restart my pc / or my modpack i can fix it temporarily. What should i do ? Someone have same issues like me ?

[true raft]

Tell ur friend to reset his server wipe it start awnew

[fallow furnace]

it doesn't work , unfortunately

[true raft]

I'm which texture packs does ur friend have install it could be missing ul

[fallow furnace]

i download the mod 5x and still not working 😦 but thx for the help

[edgy mica]

Try removing simple RPC from server mods folder and modpack mods folder

[fallow furnace]

Me and my friends removed after chunk errors . We removed it because fps drops down so hard

[pine crag]

How to remove FreshAnimations from resource pack? Does every person on the server need to do this or can I can do it server side?

[terse thorn]

Resource packs are client-side

[pine crag]

alrrr thank you

[edgy mica]

? Remove the mod I said

[fallow furnace]

i removed simple rpc before chunk errors

[marsh crag]

Rare huh? Found another one nearby XD

another 20 dragon eggs, im cominggg

[fallow furnace]

removing the mod did not solve the problem : (

[peak geyser]

Lol

I mean they are rare on my world

I only found 1 some other guy found another

So...

Tho I ain’t searching for them

[stone nova]

does anybody have a server?

[cursive ruin]

@edgy mica Ive decided something, i started a new world in v14 in creative and will move all that i did in the other world, then change to survival again

in a brand new install v14 new world im at good fps again

[marsh crag]

Damn, only 16 aether eggs

This is a joke xD

[stone nova]

jojoelix

do you knoe ane servr

thas v 14

i is lonley

[cursive ruin]

i dont know, i play single player

u.u

[terse thorn]

I believe Odin is hosting one.

[stone nova]

whoes odin

wheres odin

how is oden

how is odin

sorry been watching too much one piece

so whoes odin

and what is the ip

[terse thorn]

.

[stone nova]

thanks

the ip dont work

yes

what is server

tell me rune

[terse thorn]

There's a video tutorial on how to use the server pack in #faq @grand gate

6 should be fine

Depending on player count

6 should provide a smooth experience

[pine crag]

I cant figure out the voice chat mod, I did everything in the FAQ and it still says "VoiceChat Unavailable" in game

[marsh crag]

How convinient, goblin traders really like my base and keep spawning here

[edgy mica]

Whose your server host?

[pine crag]

It was turned off by default for some reason, and I had help from some server people and enabled it, and it has the same port and binded IP address

[pine crag]

Bisect

[edgy mica]

If you did it right it should work

[peak geyser]

Transporting my First Creeper spawner 😄 to my new Grinder i just spent hours building... and messing with... 🙂

[pine crag]

I'll restarte the server and check again, although Ive restarted a couple times now haha but Ill check once more just in case 🙂

[edgy mica]

Yeah unfortunately I can't disable that so have fun

[pine crag]

Thanks

[peak geyser]

Lol I will

[marsh crag]

I really need to get more netherite

[peak geyser]

Infinite fireworks for me lol

[marsh crag]

Finding it is painful procress though

[peak geyser]

What nice too these creeper spawners are custom ones

[edgy mica]

You can try posting your voicechat config and server IP here if you want so I can see if it rught

[peak geyser]

That means they don’t respond to light...

[marsh crag]

😄

[edgy mica]

It does work, you are just doing it wrong

Follow the video step by step and it will work

[pine crag]

Let me make sure Im not being an idiot and missing something small lol.

[edgy mica]

@terse thorn told you in the #faq

[pine crag]

Ok yea, its def not working.

[terse thorn]

Change the voice chat port to match the server one

Also remove the port from the bind_address

[pine crag]

Yea, it is matching

[edgy mica]

Well you already done it wrong

[pine crag]

What did I do wrong?

[edgy mica]

Bind adress is just IP like I said in Faq and port is just your port

[pine crag]

Yea.. I did that
The port is the same as my servers and the IP is the same as well

[edgy mica]

No you put the IP and port in bind adress and didn't even change the port

114.152.110.155 is your IP

Your port is 25565

Your not suppose to put the IP and port in bind address

[pine crag]

Oh i see it

jesus christ im sorry HAHAHAHA

[terse thorn]

lmfao

[edgy mica]

[peak geyser]

Wow.....all that for that simple answer lmao

[edgy mica]

The one that I hate the most is the, we are on the same modpack version but I can't play on his server

99% of the time they are wrong

[worn void]

I have being having some issues I try to load better minecraft but when I do it opens 1.16.5 and betterminecraft at the same time 1.16.5 loads but better minecraft just sits on a red screen and I know its not supposed to open 1.168

[edgy mica]

My brain just hurts reading that lol

I'm not sure what you said

Better Minecraft runs off the 1.16.5 version of Minecraft?

[peak geyser]

I understood him... something wrong with me lol

He saying 1.16.5 Minecraft is launching

But the betterminecraft isn’t

It’s just sits on a red screen

[edgy mica]

Can you send a screenshot?

[peak geyser]

Basically two versions of Minecraft are launching at the same time

[worn void]

Yes that's walhats happening

Whats

[peak geyser]

See I’m smart lol

Send pic tho

[worn void]

Ok I can in a bit I am not home at the moment

[edgy mica]

Are you saying it's opening 2 minecrafts basically? If not better Minecraft will open like normal minecraft with the red screen?

[terse thorn]

.

[pine crag]

Ok, It worked! Thank you guys! 🙂
What had happened was, when I was talking to server support, they said they changed my port so the 244 number. When I copied the IP Address using the copy button function they have on Bisect, it copied the whole thing, and I didnt know it showed the port number at the end (Im clearly a noob at this kind of stuff, I just wanted a modded server to play with friends) Thats why I had it all wrong

Anyway! Thank you guys again!!! 😄

[worn void]

its as if it better minecraft was loading up normally but it then gets stuck on the red loading screen with the numbers

[pine crag]

Also, if you could delete this message Id appreciate it! I dont have a whitelist on my server rn as its causing issues :p

[edgy mica]

Yeah it does that

[peak geyser]

@true raft #790275614938628096 Please read the rule 3

[edgy mica]

You just have to be patient

[terse thorn]

I see server info as not advertising imo

it's fine

[edgy mica]

Your allowed to do that Odin but don't spam

[peak geyser]

Oh

[edgy mica]

Its like the 3rd or 4th time youve done that

[peak geyser]

Well than I completely misunderstood the rule lol

[true raft]

Ok

[peak geyser]

My bad for ping than

[true raft]

Ur fine

[edgy mica]

Nah I just gave him perms just now lol

[peak geyser]

lol

[true raft]

I dont get mad

It's just getting lonely on my server

[edgy mica]

You can post that once a day not 4 times in a few hours

[worn void]

Yeah but I waited 2 hours and it just didn't load

[edgy mica]

Did you allocate more ram?

[drifting field]

what can I place into my charm slot in my inventory except the totem? 😄

[edgy mica]

If that comes up once ignore it

[drifting field]

sounds like you have too less ram? o_o
but if it works, then it works

[edgy mica]

It does that at the beginning of the server

[worn void]

Yes I did

[drifting field]

maybe the server just thinks in the begin that you have too less ram because it load up the whole server, but if this message doesnt continue to stay, then you should be fine

[true raft]

@edgy mica what's leather strip for

[drifting field]

long story short, ignore it like he said 🙂

[drifting field]

you can look on JEI

[edgy mica]

Don't ping me for dumb questions please

[true raft]

@drifting field ty

[cursive ruin]

should i leave all of this like that?

[terse thorn]

imo smooth fps and fast render are unneeded

Fast render can have some visual bugs

smooth fps reduces your fps for a more "smooth" experience but in my experience, there's no benefit of it lol

[cursive ruin]

okay thank you

[true raft]

I have a question

If I need to report a bug do I just click the report a bug in menu or tell someone who know about the mod

[terse thorn]

You just tell us about it here.

[true raft]

Ok u know the ancient tome

It won't like me combine them in the anvil

[edgy mica]

thats not a bug

you dont use ancient tomes that way

enchantment book + Ancient Tome

[peak geyser]

This is a Joke right ?? .... the amount of enderman im going end today will be noted down in the history books of the worst manslaughter of enderman kind...

[worn void]

@edgy mica here is a video of what's happening https://youtu.be/k7FxlDEvF48

[edgy mica]

thats really weird, so you pres play and two instances come up?

[worn void]

yes

[edgy mica]

there has to be something wrong on your end since this hasnt happen to a single person

what you can do is either wait for next update and see if that fixes it, or reinstall all mc related stuff on your pc and curseforge and install curseforge again

[worn void]

ok thanks you

[cursive ruin]

which is your favourite shader??

I find complementary shaders the most beautiful one

seus, chocapic etc might be more realistic but they dont give the same vibes

[terse thorn]

Mainly using Tea for gameplay and Complimentary for screenshots.

[cursive ruin]

why tea

better performance or you just like it

[terse thorn]

Performance reasons mainly.

Got a fairly outdated cpu

So it tanks quite heavily.

[grand gate]

Whats vengeance do?

And how tf you get prop 10 lol

[peak geyser]

Dungeon Called the Colosseum It spawns two Phantoms that have skeletons riding them... if u kill the skeletons with looting 3 sword... their a chance their armor might drop and that contents the prot 10.. than all u need to do is grindstone that onto a book and enchant the armor

[peak geyser]

And didnt u see the picture.... Read the 2nd Picture .... it tells you right there

[boreal crystal]

is there a way to add artifacts?

[cursive ruin]

is world edit compatible with the modpack?

[cursive ruin]

im writing that down

[peak geyser]

Lol

Go for it

[jaunty chasm]

Lucky to whoever gets that. I just get an insanely hard giant mushroom

[peak geyser]

I saw that

Isnt that hard

The hardest dungeon I fought with my prot 10

Was the desert palace

[cursive ruin]

the one with lava in the walls?

[peak geyser]

It’s 11-8 huge desert towers that have ravager evokers spawners on the top of each tower

[jaunty chasm]

Oh

Not the lava one then

[peak geyser]

And vindicators all over the place from below to bottom

[cursive ruin]

yeah i see

[peak geyser]

Looks like this

[cursive ruin]

damn looks cool

are you on v14?

[peak geyser]

Was stupidly hard

[jaunty chasm]

I just found a huge mushroom dungeon

[peak geyser]

And no I’m on 13.5

[jaunty chasm]

Had full enchanted diamond armor zombies

[peak geyser]

Long 14 doenst remove the Dungeon arise mod u should be able to find one in V14

[cursive ruin]

awesome ty

[peak geyser]

I mean that try

Tru*

But fight 12 vindicators

That do half your health in full prot 4 diamond

Than evokers spawning vexs that chase u

While skeletons with golden axes come chase u

If the vindicator weren’t bad enough

Trust me I would set a spawn point

U are going die lol

Even in my god armor right now I’m not sure I will be able to scale that monster of a dungeon unharmed

Dude this is just adding another lvl of Feather Falling... And i havent even got Vengeful on there yet... Bruh at this rate im just sticking with Feather Falling 3.... lmao

[cursive ruin]

i mean

with a good enderman farm you just need some free time

[peak geyser]

I’m at my enderman farm right now

Just grinding lol

[cursive ruin]

one hit farm?

[peak geyser]

I need 75 for my chest and 68 for those boots and more...

Ye

[cursive ruin]

i also made that one

[peak geyser]

Do u use endermites ?

[cursive ruin]

one

in a minecart

[peak geyser]

Just one ?

[cursive ruin]

ye

[peak geyser]

I got 4 spread around the end

Attracting the whole island inward

Towards the portal

My farm under it

So 5 actually counting the one that in the middle

[cursive ruin]

i have this one

https://youtu.be/nh8voJScSbw

[peak geyser]

Ah

Wouldn’t be more efficient

To use the whole island tho ?

More spawn rate the faster the enderman

[cursive ruin]

but then you would need to go around each spot to kill them

[peak geyser]

No

My farm draws them to the inner endermite

One endermite above leads

Leafs *

[cursive ruin]

how? dont they stick to a single one?

[peak geyser]

Than the enderman loses focus and he get draw towards the middle one

[cursive ruin]

hmmm

[peak geyser]

If he can’t attack it he will lose interest in it

[cursive ruin]

no clue how you made that work

[peak geyser]

It works idk how either

But he loses interest in it and than get re interest in the one by the farm

And boom down he goes lol

Covers the whole island lol

[cursive ruin]

did you watch a tutorial?

[peak geyser]

Along time ago

Went off memory

I have a pretty good one

Leafs are a good block to use

Bc enderman can see tho tho sea

Those*

[cursive ruin]

nice

well done then

[peak geyser]

Ye still stupidly slow

Lol

Even with a looting VI sweeping V sharp V sword

[cursive ruin]

from lvl 40 everything gets slow

[peak geyser]

Ye that why I store xp

In the xp tombs

[cursive ruin]

havent tried that yet

does it store exp numbers or levels

[peak geyser]

30 per book

[cursive ruin]

but if you use 2 full books you dont get to lvl60 right?

[peak geyser]

Takes 4 ender pearls and a book to craft

Nope

[cursive ruin]

yeah thats what i thought

[peak geyser]

Just an easier way to store xp for later use

[abstract silo]

Check if server has whitelist.
Otherwise, might be either :

• PC firewall blocking port
• Router bad setup for port forwarding

I know there is tools online to check if a port is open.

[peak geyser]

^^ he beat me too it lol

[abstract silo]

https://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/

[peak geyser]

Yep

Damn he quick

[abstract silo]

I was already searching

[peak geyser]

Lol

[abstract silo]

I always hated networks, programming is much cooler

Your mincraft server port, default is 25565
(but maybe you have set up a custom one in your server config)

[tidal oak]

Is there any dungeon from Arise you haven't done yet?

I think you haven't posted anything about the desert city, so I'll assume you haven't suffered that yet

[peak geyser]

I seen it

And done it

The towers were annoying with the prot 2 husks

Hard to kill even with sharp 5

Uhhh ocean dungeon I haven’t seen yet

The dungeons with the Prot 10 skeletons are rare tho.. been searching for one of those and haven’t came across one in a few hours

[void kernel]

We have two of those colloseums on either side of our mountain

[main spindle]

anyone know how to give villager a job

[last owl]

What world type do i start in

[marsh crag]

Was here any seasons mods added? Fast searched and atleast didnt see serene seasons added

Just wondering since my ocean is getting iced up

[inland quartz]

out of curiosity, anyone have a server that me and a buddy can play on ?

and sorry don't have an answer ;;

[marsh crag]

Tsolker, I just chose Outworld two...whatever it was 😄

[last owl]

okay cool

[inland quartz]

Its the default, yeah

that's what I went with for a single player

[marsh crag]

Yeah same ^^

Also how many different dimensions there are in total? Nether, End, Abyss, Undergarden... ?

And "correct" way to progress trough those in order

[halcyon aurora]

whats the undergarden dimension?

[marsh crag]

I dont know yet myself, havent been there or in the abyss yet but heard those are there ;D

So far cleared nether and end only >.<

[boreal crystal]

wat is skyland?

is that new place or just floating island?

[sick kernel]

Could anyone help me with a Forge error whenever I try to join my own server?

[proven ridge]

my better minecraft keeps crashing

everytime i try to launch it

[amber shell]

hey guys, my server crash in nether, v14 version

[23:45:05] [Server thread/FATAL] [ne.mi.co.ForgeMod/]: Preparing crash report with UUID c64c87bb-faf0-4987-8341-2e60b08b2973
[23:45:05] [Server thread/ERROR] [minecraft/MinecraftServer]: Encountered an unexpected exception
net.minecraft.crash.ReportedException: Ticking entity
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71190_q(MinecraftServer.java:855) ~[?:?] {re:mixin,pl:accesstransformer:B,pl:runtimedistcleaner:A,re:classloading,pl:accesstransformer:B,pl:mixin:APP:betterendforge.mixins.json:MinecraftServerMixin,pl:mixin:APP:structure_gel.mixins.json:MinecraftServerMixin,pl:mixin:APP:betterweather.mixins.json:server.MixinMinecraftServer,pl:mixin:APP:globaldataandresourcepacks.mixins.json:MinecraftServerMixin,pl:mixin:APP:byg.mixins.json:server.MixinMinecraftServer,pl:mixin:APP:charm.mixins.json:accessor.MinecraftServerAccessor,pl:mixin:APP:enhancedcelestials.mixins.json:MixinMinecraftServer,pl:mixin:A,pl:runtimedistcleaner:A}

[wraith nova]

how do i install it?

[peak geyser]

#faq

[wraith nova]

thanks

[jaunty chasm]

abyss is prety much end on steroids

and undergarden is a green brown place with strange mobs and ores

[orchid scaffold]

where can i find the mod list?

[halcyon aurora]

how do you get the portal to get there?

[jaunty chasm]

make a portal like a nether portal with stone bricks and light it with a catalyst which you make with 4 gold, 4 iron, and 1 diamond

[red bobcat]

What happened to variant bookshelves in version 14? Updated from v13 and lost all my spruce bookshelves and my spruce chests from Charm

[peak geyser]

wow so 14.5 Version Removes the backpacks... that i love

and replaced it with a smaller version of one...

Bruh going tho dungeons and looting them are going be so much more of a challenge inventory wise...

[proven ridge]

mine keeps crashing when i try to launch can someone help

[wraith nova]

press launch and dont click or tab out or anything

let it load

[proven ridge]

it crashes

like minecraft launcher crashes

[wraith nova]

how good is your pc

[proven ridge]

isnt that good

idk

i get decent fps usually on minecraft

[wraith nova]

first use the fabric version

[proven ridge]

i am

[wraith nova]

not forge

[proven ridge]

i use fabric

[wraith nova]

then idk maybe use more ram

[proven ridge]

how much should i use

i use 6 gb

[wraith nova]

try less

[proven ridge]

how much?

i have 8 gb ram

[wraith nova]

maybe use 4

[proven ridge]

ok

[edgy mica]

The sane way you do in normal minecraft

[proven ridge]

ive been trying to fix it for a few hours now

[edgy mica]

Send the crash/log not a screenshot

[sick kernel]

Sure, let me grab it.

[edgy mica]

Send the latest log

[proven ridge]

ok

one sec

[edgy mica]

Send the latest log a d crash not this.

[proven ridge]

an unexpecred issue occured and the game has crashed. we;re sorry for the inconvenience. exit code 0

thast what it says

[edgy mica]

Charm should still be in the pack?

[edgy mica]

I don't want that, go into your modoack folder and logs folder

[proven ridge]

ok

[sick kernel]

This would be my log. Its unfortunately too large for pastebin.

The error can be seen at the very end

[edgy mica]

Did you add any mods?

[sick kernel]

Nope.

[edgy mica]

Try removing the paintings mods

[sick kernel]

Yeah I did that, and it worked. But unfortunately my client would require that mod :/

This all worked fine on my local server that I hosted on my desktop, just continuously failed no matter what I tried on my host.

[proven ridge]

there are no recent logs for me

[edgy mica]

Then just delete the mod on your client too

[sick kernel]

Yeah thats what I advised initially as well, is there a simpler fix to it than that?

[proven ridge]

also does having 1.8 mods affect this

[sick kernel]

Well, its a 1.16 mod pack isnt it aha

[edgy mica]

That is the simplest way? Not sure why this is happening to you

[edgy mica]

Did you add mods?

[sick kernel]

Gotcha. I'll let them know then. Thanks for your time.

[proven ridge]

no

i had a diff mod folder i didnt know if that did anything to it

[edgy mica]

What do you mean you had a different mod folder?

[proven ridge]

like i downloaded 1.8.9 forge a while back

not in the modpack

[edgy mica]

You are using cueseforge launcher?

[proven ridge]

yea

[edgy mica]

Try reinstalling, its just telling me that jumploader isn't launching properly

[proven ridge]

i already tried reinstalling

[proven ridge]

whats that

[edgy mica]

You are trying to play the fabric version right?

[proven ridge]

yea

i gtg ill reply later

[edgy mica]

That means it's tryna launch the fabric mods trough forge launcher

[red bobcat]

A search in the mods folder doesn’t find a jar for charm. Is it somewhere else?

Using curseforge

[edgy mica]

Maybe it got deleted when I was testing

[edgy mica]

While your at is is quark in there?

[red bobcat]

No

[grand gate]

How come you swapped the backpack mods? Was it causing a bug of some kind?

[peak geyser]

Well it did have the bug where u could store backpacks inside backbags

So basically Infinite storage... all inside a single item slot..

and shulkers inside backbags = portal use...

[grand gate]

But there's a setting literally in the mod to turn that feature off

[peak geyser]

Tru

didnt know that

So i dont know than*

[grand gate]

Also why was Morecraft added? A lot of its features are a bit redundant or not necessary. Netherwood trees make the noises of stone when broken, and break up the beautiful landscapes of the nether with these bright red ugly trees. Along with the storage blocks being not necessary or already in the modpack, like with blocks of ender. Not to mention the fact that it adds another Netherite Door/Trapdoor when Supplementaries already adds it.

[jagged jay]

Hey, I just wanna know, I've been playing Better Minecraft in version v13, If I update it for the newest update, would my worlds still be playable ?

[grand gate]

I've noticed chunk borders from v13 to v14 so

just let that be known

[jagged jay]

I already have some chunks problens, like really big mountains being cut in the middle or stuff like that

But thanks, I will try the newest update

[peak geyser]

@jagged jay

make sure you read the Change logs of each Update

To insure nothing is Broken / Lost during the Update process of loading the world in from different versions

[jagged jay]

Will do!

[peak geyser]

I heard ppl lost complete worlds due to them not reading the change logs

[jagged jay]

I will make a back up, so I dont lost anything if things go wrong

[peak geyser]

Noice Let me know if any bugs come up

I will try my best to fix it..

If not Shark will always have the answer..

[jagged jay]

Okayy, thanks for everything ^^

[dim anchor]

is the server pack updated

im trying to makea server saying mods are different

[red bobcat]

Anyone else not have quark and charm on v14.5?

[grand gate]

Man a github would be really useful right now, being able to put up bug reports and put in suggestions for the modpack.

[dim anchor]

does the serverpack not work anymore?

#better-mc-forge

[fringe skiff]

some mobs are completely invisible for me, does anyone know why?

[edgy mica]

reuploaded the v14.5 with those mdos

[edgy mica]

it will come eventually when I have time

[edgy mica]

what version did you start on?

[red bobcat]

Thank you !

[crystal roost]

what happened??

it just showed up

and theres a lot some in the ground and some taken out

[fringe skiff]

Started on 1.16.5

[crystal roost]

mhm

heres another screenshot

[fringe skiff]

I can hear the mobs and they can attack me but I can't see or interact with them

[edgy mica]

no the modpack version

[edgy mica]

no sure whats happened. what version did you start on?

[crystal roost]

1.16.5

is there a way to fix it??

[grand gate]

@edgy mica why does BetterMC Plus have Apple skin but not regular?

[unreal sage]

Hey Sharkie, could you add some roles or something for mod pack notifications? I’d love to get pinged when certain packs get updated or have issues and things like that, but understand doing an everyone isn’t cool

[edgy mica]

what modpack version?

[crystal roost]

wdym?

[fringe skiff]

I can't remember I'll let you know when I'm back home

[edgy mica]

v13.5 is yours

did you update ffrom any versions before?

[crystal roost]

nope, im pretty new to mods

[ruby mango]

so uh, anyone know the name of the mod that tells you which block you're looking at? That annoys the heck outta me

[edgy mica]

Jade

[ruby mango]

ahh, thank you my mans

it annoys me because i like discovering it all myself, ya know?

[edgy mica]

maybe update to latest so it doesnt happen again

[crystal roost]

how

[edgy mica]

the update button next to play

[ruby mango]

forge mod loader is a godsend, no manually moving files, not too much anyway. Updates are easier, whooo wee.

[crystal roost]

the snap shot?

[crystal roost]

here?

[edgy mica]

no the curseforge launcher

[crystal roost]

which one?

[edgy mica]

The top 14.5

[crystal roost]

will it delete my world

[edgy mica]

No it should keep your world

Actually wait

Not about your world

I just uploaded an new 14.5 as it has to be reuploaded so idk if it has been done yet

Maybe wait till later to update

[crystal roost]

okie dokie

[brave quarry]

hey @edgy mica can you pm me real quick i have a few questions

[delicate bough]

Good day, is the server working

[peak geyser]

Good bye my backpacks... You were a Good Storage... for My Journey Thus Far.... Sad to See you go :C ......

[edgy mica]

what mod is that bow from?

[peak geyser]

Oh...

I just noticed what mod it was from

RIP MY BOW

Thank you for catching that

[edgy mica]

thats been remove ages ago?

[peak geyser]

It’s easy emeralds

It was removed in V14

We still in 13.5

[edgy mica]

ah ok

[peak geyser]

Does that mod

Have any enchantments I need to worry about ?

My armor is Prot X

I’m not sure what mod that from

[edgy mica]

when dungeons arise

[peak geyser]

Ah so that mod also adds the OP enchantments

Noice

Their no upgraded bow... well that sucks

[tidal oak]

Unless I remove those hehe

[edgy mica]

i really do recommend removing it

its too op

[peak geyser]

Lol

I mean

[edgy mica]

makes people progress too fast

[peak geyser]

U want pics of my armor ?

It’s basically a god set at this rate

[tidal oak]

Sharkie is right though

I guess Prot X is still on mage towers as loot from husks, if i remember correctly

[tidal oak]

I've seen it before

[peak geyser]

Have u seen the sword lol

That what most op about those enchantments

[tidal oak]

But even if I remove Prot X you'll keep it as Its a vanilla enchant

[peak geyser]

And i still havent applied Sharp VI or Sweeping edge V

[tidal oak]

That's obtainable in vanilla tho

[peak geyser]

Looting IV and Unbreaking IV ?

[tidal oak]

Nevermind lol

[peak geyser]

and Sharp VI and Sweeping V arent obtainable either lol

but i need to grind alot of xp

Plus i havent even got Jason Sword which at base does 25.... so... im still far away from Max ing lol

[tidal oak]

By the way now that you're here

Am I allowed to "steal" this picture from you?

[peak geyser]

Sure

Go for it

But i will tell u a secret...

[tidal oak]

I know

[peak geyser]

Did u look the mod up ?

[tidal oak]

Which mod?

[peak geyser]

When Dungeons Arise

the mod that pic comes from

[tidal oak]

I-I don't know about it at all

[peak geyser]

Shhh u will spoil my secret

But the "pic" all urs 😄

[tidal oak]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[peak geyser]

anyway

Its ranger pic anyway

The guy on the bottom left

is me lol

This was my view lol

[tidal oak]

For some reason nobody takes pictures while raiding that dungeon

I guess it keeps you busy

[peak geyser]

Oh i do

Bc that was the hardest dungeon

took us nearly 2 hours

to scale and beat all the towers

there were 11 in total

it was truly a Dungeon Crawl

[tidal oak]

I still would love to see a bigger one

[peak geyser]

Mhm

I be down to bring my sword lol

IT got its name after beating that dungeon

[tidal oak]

I prefer the desert city's tower though

The central one

[peak geyser]

Ye tru

But the loot horrible

[tidal oak]

I see, did you open the trapped chest?

[peak geyser]

On top of each one was a Evoker Ravager who drops Totems... and the loot in each chest.. was Diamond enchanted or better

[fringe skiff]

@edgy mica i was having the invisible mob issue, im on v14 of the modpack

[peak geyser]

I didnt.. i saw the ring around the Lock...

and broke the tnt

I was too smart for it

[tidal oak]

Ugh

I'll improvise a better trap next time

[peak geyser]

are u a creator ?

of the mod ?

Wait what?

Wait wait wiat wait waoit

wait

[edgy mica]

duh

[tidal oak]

dummy

[peak geyser]

OML!

Dude im living in one ur dungeons

[tidal oak]

Pfft which one?

[peak geyser]

Illager Fortress

[tidal oak]

Huh I have had this issue in relation to Optifine

[tidal oak]

Yep I built that one :3

[peak geyser]

Im building a town around it

like a medievil theme

with a wall towers and a small town

Going look like a proper kingdom

[fringe skiff]

yeah some mobs are invisible but they can still attack, but i cant interact with them.

[tidal oak]

Which version of optifine are you using?

[peak geyser]

Bruh, Im not going lie Im probably one the bigger fans of ur mod in this community... I explore nearly all them lol

[fringe skiff]

1.16.5 hd u g6

[peak geyser]

Try G7

[tidal oak]

^

[fringe skiff]

ok

[peak geyser]

G7 fixes that issue

[fringe skiff]

ok thanks i didnt know

[peak geyser]

i was using G6

No problem

[tidal oak]

I'm happy to know someone is having fun there :3

[peak geyser]

The Unground Mine was amazing.. too

I also borrowed a couple creeper spawners from a Desert theme Dungeons for a gun powered farm lol

Bc their not affected by light

[tidal oak]

Yep I saw that

[peak geyser]

dude that made my day

talking to u lol

Thanks

[tidal oak]

By the way, what are your in game names?

[unreal sage]

Glad you liked the pic 🙂

Same name as here for me

[peak geyser]

My Name HellionBear

But u can call me by my disc

Im changing it soon anway

[coral bear]

what optifine version does this pack use?

[peak geyser]

anyway*

[peak geyser]

Optifine GU7

the latest version

plus it doesnt have it installed

u have to manually do that

[coral bear]

okay thanks

anytime I put optifine in the pack keeps crashing

but when I take it out it's fine

[peak geyser]

Send the Crash report

and the lastest Log

[coral bear]

I don't know if this matters but im playing on version 3 of the pack

[peak geyser]

V3 ?

[tidal oak]

Isn't that overly old?

[peak geyser]

Yea it is..

that could be why

I know optifine had problems back in earlier developments of the modpack

[coral bear]

I just didn't update it cause I wanted herobrine

[peak geyser]

lol fair enough reason

[coral bear]

it's version 14.5 correct?

[peak geyser]

Ye

But becareful

Upgrading from V3 to V14.5

u probably will have to reset

ur Single player world

due to the major changes

[coral bear]

That's fine

[peak geyser]

But ye 14.5

is the latest version

That should work with Opt GU7

Im on 13.5 and it works fine

[coral bear]

I built a huge japanese mansion

I have a pet monke

[peak geyser]

Noice

Ik dungeon arise has a Chinese tower

ITs a massive structure

but it would look noice for a Japanese style base

[coral bear]

I have a pic I think

hol on

built it on a hill

[peak geyser]

oooooo

Okay that sexy

Ngl

[coral bear]

currently have unknown armor and tools

[coral bear]

thanks took me weeks

[peak geyser]

I got that weird feel off it

like it bought back Dojo animes

like that massive house u see in the distance than the dojo and guest inns are down below

I watch too much anime to see that clearly

[coral bear]

I know exactly what u mean

I got the dubstep disc for my juke box and did some rlly nice interior

ill send pics when I load in

[peak geyser]

yay

I’m just using the dungeon arise dungeon for my house

I’m too lazy to do a “fancy” build

But I’m trying to build a town and a medieval wall and towers lol

[tidal oak]

Acacia wood heh, I approve

[fringe skiff]

is there a way to take enchants off something and put it on a book or put it on a different tool?

[tidal oak]

Interestingly enough that build you're living in used to have a village around, but it didn't make it to release since it was kinda buggy

[peak geyser]

Also why u make me deal with 4 poisons cave spawners in the attic that was terrifying 

[coral bear]

Thanks

[tidal oak]

Grindstone?

[coral bear]

yeah grindstone

[fringe skiff]

u can put it on a book or another tool with a grindstone?

[peak geyser]

Ye

[coral bear]

No unfortunately

[peak geyser]

Tool on top

[coral bear]

wait what

[peak geyser]

Book on bottom

[fringe skiff]

i didnt know

[coral bear]

seriously?

[fringe skiff]

thx

[peak geyser]

Mhm

Tool on top book on bottom

Removes enchantment

Than reapply to the tool u want

That how I got your prot 10 off

[coral bear]

That's super helpful

[peak geyser]

From your skeletons

That spawn on phantoms

[tidal oak]

You're just giving me a list of things to nerf

[peak geyser]

Lmao

[coral bear]

@peak geyser I saw that your playing on an smp, is it for patrons only or is it public?

[peak geyser]

Public

[coral bear]

oh bet

proximity chat on?

[peak geyser]

Also

Did u know goblin traders

Give ur op enchantments

??

Like u give them a enchantment unbreaking 3 book and a diamond axe I get unbreaking VI

Lol

[tidal oak]

They do that by default, it's not an interaction with Arise

[peak geyser]

Ah

[coral bear]

I made a raccoon pit with over 30 raccoons

[tidal oak]

Anyway I'll be going off, your picture should be on the mod curseforge page, images tab

[peak geyser]

Yay

I’m on a mod mom get the camera !

Kidding

[edgy mica]

idk if you realised yet

[peak geyser]

But seriously that stupidly exciting I never thought doing that dungeon would end up like this

Ooo what is this

Part of the V14.5 in guessing

[edgy mica]

Disenchantment Edit Table

nah its in v13.5

[peak geyser]

U sure

I don’t got a jei for it

Nope not here

[edgy mica]

nvm

its v14

[peak geyser]

I see

Can’t wait for it

My armor needing 75lvls

Ain’t happening anytime soon

Tho I do want vengeful on it

Now I need to talk to either ranger or the abyss creator

Bc someone needs to up the spawn rate of these damn slime forests

I want my fusion lol

[fringe skiff]

does anyone know how to make the abyss guide book

[peak geyser]

Ya

U need the letter

To unlock the knowledge

[fringe skiff]

i have the letter but how do i unlock it?

[peak geyser]

@fringe skiff

[fringe skiff]

ok thank you

[peak geyser]

no problem

It doesnt explain much

about Fusion

But it gives u info on mobs and Armor..

and ores

that about it

otherwise i would look into a wiki or a Video on YT for help

Okay this is just an epic way to put my experience in this modpack in a short sentence...(FYI the towers were burning when we were raiding it... Bc due to a lava pool nearby... but this sounds more epic)

[edgy mica]

Sheeesh

https://tenor.com/view/sheesh-nice-gif-21095005

[shadow jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/sheesh-jeez-yikes-eyeroll-dance-gif-13121705

[peak geyser]

I mean I ain’t as popular as Shark is now but this is a step

Lol

While this man just leaps mountains I’m taking the turtle path

But anyway seriously

Godly pack

[shadow jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/that-what-a-simp-would-say-pewdiepie-simp-gif-20150978

[peak geyser]

Lmao

Fax I’m a simp to my heart

I openly admit that

Gotta stay tru to yourself

Otherwise u won’t grow as a person

[edgy mica]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-cartoo-the-fairy-oddparents-gif-18192655

[shadow jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/if-youre-not-with-me-then-youre-my-enemy-anakin-simp-star-wars-gif-17237416

[peak geyser]

come fight me I will sharp VI sword lol

Don’t test my broken prot 10 set lol

It’s too godly

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-dragon-ball-z-unlimited-power-over9000-power-level-gif-12316102

[hearty hatch]

[main spindle]

guys do u know how to heal the dragon?

or u just can use potions to heal it?

[cursive ruin]

which is the villagers+ bug which is fixed now?

[fallow furnace]

how

can i fix that ?

[cedar sorrel]

guys it's a common issue having villagers with white square eyes?

i have the v14

[unreal sage]

#faq

[cedar sorrel]

ok

[hearty hatch]

fish

[cedar sorrel]

thanks a lot

[peak geyser]

Fish or meat cooked meat or rotten flesh works too

[crystal roost]

i waited until today to update it but this happened

[main spindle]

guys how to find salt in croptopia mod?

i want to make butter bread

[atomic scaffold]

What is the touch for see what black we look mobs ect plz ? ( in better minecraft )

[hearty hatch]

i have literally no clue what that means

can you reformulate

[hearty hatch]

its from an ore

you can probably see where it spawns using Just enough resources (left click it in JEI)

why would you make that though

just make toast

you can make bread for 1 wheat each using dough

[frigid notch]

Does anyone knows what Visions of life and death does

[cursive ruin]

I cant see item frames when i place them

[charred delta]

nah i think full prot 4 unorithe is still better

[glacial glacier]

anyone else getting white mob faces and stuff?

[proper lagoon]

I m getting bug crash when using an empty bucket on water to fill it. Someone has a solution?

[cursive ruin]

optifine

[cursive ruin]

Anyone??

[proper lagoon]

If someone can help me understand my crash in private chat would be great

[terse thorn]

When does it crash?

oh, just read above

[proper lagoon]

When i use an empty bucket on water

[terse thorn]

Can you post the crashlog?

[proper lagoon]

Unreported exception thrown!
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: net.minecraft.util.DrinkHelper.func_242398_a(Lnet/minecraft/item/ItemStack;Lnet/minecraft/entity/player/PlayerEntity;Lnet/minecraft/item/ItemStack;)Lnet/minecraft/item/ItemStack;
at appleting.classes.items.override.ModdedBucketItem.func_77659_a(ModdedBucketItem.java:85)
at net.minecraft.item.ItemStack.func_77957_a(ItemStack.java:214)
at net.minecraft.client.multiplayer.PlayerController.func_187101_a(PlayerController.java:329)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_147121_ag(Minecraft.java:1363)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_184117_aA(Minecraft.java:1597)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71407_l(Minecraft.java:1434)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_195542_b(Minecraft.java:928)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:582)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(Main.java:184)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:497)
at net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.FMLClientLaunchProvider.lambda$launchService$0(FMLClientLaunchProvider.java:51)
at net.minecraftforge.fml.loading.FMLClientLaunchProvider$$Lambda$471/884111637.call(Unknown Source)
at cpw.mods.modlauncher.LaunchServiceHandlerDecorator.launch(LaunchServiceHandlerDecorator.java:37)
at cpw.mods.modlauncher.LaunchServiceHandler.launch(LaunchServiceHandler.java:54)
at cpw.mods.modlauncher.LaunchServiceHandler.launch(LaunchServiceHandler.java:72)
at cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher.run(Launcher.java:81)
at cpw.mods.modlauncher.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:65)

[terse thorn]

You can drag in the whole crashlog file here

Easier to work with

[proper lagoon]

On phone

[terse thorn]

ah

[proper lagoon]

Sry

[terse thorn]

Do you have Optifine installed?

[proper lagoon]

Nop

I have some other mod install

Like fire and ice and rats and hwyla

[terse thorn]

Jade is better at this point than hwyla

Would suggest swapping

Idk about the others.

[proper lagoon]

K, but doesn t resolve my bucket issue

[terse thorn]

Yeah, I'm not sure why it happens

[proper lagoon]

It doesn t point to anything but it doesn t understand what to do with the bucket like if an other mod is changing its interaction

And JEI

[terse thorn]

" at appleting.classes.items.override.ModdedBucketItem.func_77659_a(ModdedBucketItem.java:85)"

[proper lagoon]

Why does it say moddedbucketitem and not bucket

[terse thorn]

Something is overriding the standart bucket item

[proper lagoon]

Yep

But doesn t say what and in jei it say that its a minecraft bucket

[terse thorn]

@edgy mica is this supposed to happen in the base pack?

[proper lagoon]

What is the mod that make somebobject like bucket placeable?

[edgy mica]

what version are you on cause it doesnt crash in latest version, plus it probably is another mod

[proper lagoon]

Latest version of the modpack

[edgy mica]

then its another mod you added

[proper lagoon]

Just began a game

That change the bucket?

[edgy mica]

another mod is crashing with the bucket, idk if its a modded bucket or not

[proper lagoon]

I didn t had anything touching bucket but thank you for your feedback

I have +6mods and they don t change recipe

[edgy mica]

as i said it might not even be a bucket that modded, it could just be a mod thats messing with the modpack that you added, if you can list all the most I can help but other than that I cant help

[proper lagoon]

Thank you : JEI, JER, Storage drawer, Waystone, Chisel and bits, Citadel with IceandFire and Rats, Cosmetic armor reworks

That s it

[edgy mica]

Whats JER?
Wasytone is already in the pack so you are just duplicating the mod.
It either has to be Chisel and Bits or Ice and Fire. Thats just my guess, best is for you to test yourself

[proper lagoon]

Thanks for your help, will test. And i can t say anything about your pack cause i just began but first time i try 1.16 modded so thank you for your effort.

[edgy mica]

also JEI and JER should be in the pack so watch out for duplicates

[proper lagoon]

Ok thanks

I use curseforge app and i think it doesn t allow duplicate

[edgy mica]

if you manually add them then it will allow

[hasty barn]

So my friend was able to go on my server for about an hour and then got kicked now if he reconnects he has a freezscreen... PLS Help

Now it is happening with all of us

[edgy mica]

stop the server and send the latest.log

[hasty barn]

Ok one sec

[edgy mica]

wait dont you have extra mods added?

[hasty barn]

No I deinstalled them as you recommended

The latest.log Is in the logs folder right? (I am on mobile rn)

Found it

[edgy mica]

are you on latest version?

[hasty barn]

Yeah

V14

[edgy mica]

v14.5 is the latest. How long did you have the server up for?

how long has it been running

[hasty barn]

About 1 and a half days

Maybe it restarted on 2 am but idk

[edgy mica]

I think the problem is that its been running too long, you need to have regular restarts

start server again and see if you can join if not update to latest version

[hasty barn]

Ok (is that nesacary because the server needs to be updated manually via FTP and it takes about an hour once but most of the time it doesn't work at all

)

[edgy mica]

thats why i ask you to start server again and see if he can join

if so that means its just been running for too long

[hasty barn]

Oh ok thanks thought you ment I should do both sry

[hearty hatch]

mr shanky can u help me with a problem on a completely unrelated modpack

[hasty barn]

Is a 10 hour Intervall ok?

Or should it be less?

[edgy mica]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sad-funny-animals-funny-turning-gif-10670068

[edgy mica]

I do 6

[hearty hatch]

yes so

my game is lagging ridiculously bad in certain chunks close to my world spawn and spawn point (not spawn chunks) and idk why ; when im in one of those chunks , it keeps ramping up the amount of ram the game uses until it straight up crashes. and when i force close it from task manager , it's an instant close , no delay no nothing

[hasty barn]

Ok thanks

[hearty hatch]

also my game doesnt generate crash reports for some reason

[edgy mica]

im tryna do my essay

[edgy mica]

what modpack?

[hearty hatch]

oh

finish the essay first then

its mineshafts and monsters

[umbral lichen]

is there an official server for this pack?

[hearty hatch]

i guess

but so few people played on it that it got scrapped and now a new one is being started , this time with medieval minecraft instead

[umbral lichen]

Is there a huge difference between Better and Medieval? 🙂

[jaunty chasm]

Yes I think

[umbral lichen]

I'll give medieval a go anyway

[pearl dock]

Hi there,
I am trying to install a 1.4 server for local play, but I keep getting these errors when I run the installer. Anyone know how to fix this?

[edgy mica]

This is a Forge issue, I only provide the installer that you can download online for yourself. The best is to go to their discord

[pearl dock]

Alright, thank you

[grand gate]

When my friend spawns into the world it crashes We updated to 14.5 And I think it's still crashes from the illagers

[edgy mica]

seems like i missed one line of the config i forgot to change, try this

@grand gate

[main spindle]

wait? is it?

[hearty hatch]

yea i havent played in about a month so cant remember the specific details but it was like

3 wheat + 1 water bucket = 3 dough

smelt dough for bread

search JEI for "dough" , i don't remember specifically

[main spindle]

but when i try to left click on "salt" , it does'nt do anything

yeah

[edgy mica]

@main spindle @grand gate get the Croptopia book

[proven ridge]

if u have it on a server does everyone that joins need to download it?

[edgy mica]

best is to ask the Croptopia mod dev

[edgy mica]

yes

[halcyon comet]

Hello everyone! can I ask one question related to the modpack?

Can Aurora Mountains be found in this build? And then I have been running in the end for 3 hours and I just can't find this biome

[coral bear]

How do I hatch the ender dragon egg?

[proper lagoon]

Hey Sharkie, i disinstall all the other mods from the modpack and the bug with my empty bucket still crasb mh world... if you have anbother idea.

[grand gate]

any good ways to start up any automation? im still new to modded minecraft

[charred delta]

If you have the real dragon egg it will give you a random egg

[coral bear]

It's just called ender dragon egg

[charred delta]

and if you want end dragon egg you need to find it in end pyramids

[coral bear]

I got it after beating the dragon

[charred delta]

you will get a random dargon

dragon

[coral bear]

ok well how do I hatch it?

[charred delta]

right click

and you wait

[coral bear]

ok

[charred delta]

what color is the egg now?

[coral bear]

still black

Maybe it was a miscarrige egg

[charred delta]

i think that the egg that you got is end dragon

is it like black with purple spots?

or black black

[coral bear]

black black

[charred delta]

than you got lucky and the egg will be end dragon

its random

They are very cool

I recomand finding a random generated building and search for a aether dragon

their the most common

and it doesnt matter if you loose it

the end ones are rare

[coral bear]

oooooo

awesome

[charred delta]

normally you get it from end pyramid

thats where i got mine from

on rangers server

[coral bear]

Im in a biome in the end with pink and blue trees

the music here is nice

might stay for a while

it's really pretty

[edgy mica]

its similar to vanilla so either redstone or videos online really

[coral bear]

holy hell

[edgy mica]

send a pic of where you are trying to get water

[coral bear]

cinematic cam+ hud disabled is awesome

[edgy mica]

Use Natures Compass