fishing is fishing
#otherworld
silver patrol
corpse should spawn a block above void
pearl condor
afaik no but then I didn't try it
latent wadi
corpse should spawn a block above void
so just put water ?
pearl condor
basically, yes
latent wadi
i see okie
latent wadi
afaik no but then I didn't try it
so no fishing mods ?
silver patrol
yes
latent wadi
okie
silver patrol
water or angel wings
pearl condor
so no fishing mods ?
no
silver patrol
millions servers must disable angel wings...
pearl condor
water or angel wings
that is just way too risky, angel wings
silver patrol
that is just way too risky, angel wings
jet steam up
pearl condor
well
two problems
- that means you have spare angel wings somewhere in inv (or you started using elytra, tho I doubt if you would fall to void at that point)
- how do you stabilise yourself with angel wings enough to grab corpse and click claim, a normal player without using hitboxes and having super reflexes, when angel wings keep flying + will have cd
cedar scroll
Damn so meat is fr the only sustainable food source๐ญ
pearl condor
cedar scroll
cedar scroll
https://klipy.com/gifs/ginger-root-hook
Hmmm
Im eating still my bread i got from the villiges
pearl condor
- hunger drains slower here
cedar scroll
+ hunger drains slower here
Thats cool yeah
pearl condor
make backpack, feeding upgrade
pearl condor
pain it is
cedar scroll
He crazy
pearl condor
pearl condor
literal experience of a stalker
latent wadi
2 spawn on me
pearl condor
(I had one stalker irl, so ik how they are)
cedar scroll
2 spawn on me
Panic attacks 
latent wadi
(I had one stalker irl, so ik how they are)
you talk about me ?
cedar scroll
(I had one stalker irl, so ik how they are)
They looked like this?
pearl condor
you don't know where I live just yet
pearl condor
They looked like this?
nah, uglier
small ledge
anybody knows how to get hyper experience?
pearl condor
its here something like sleepbag ?
not yet
pearl condor
anybody knows how to get hyper experience?
ponder time
the vid may have some answers
who knows
I hope it does
inner meteor
Pondering is genius create design
inner meteor
Tbf I suck at every other tech mod
Create is the only one that I can process and actually understand
pearl condor
probably
pearl condor
Tbf I suck at every other tech mod
Create is the only one that I can process and...
I love tech mods, they make my brain go brr, but create can go suck a big german sosig , I dislike it, I dislike it's mechanics , how bulky it is and how ugly it looks, just not for me ig
inner meteor
Could not be more opposite
although I definitely have my moments with Create, too much of it at once burns me out mighty fast, but it's worth automating simple resources like food and iron
scenic nova
hello, im playing this for some time now, im a Arcane Fighter and i got a few good spells and cantrips. however im lacking good armor and weapons. i got a few weapons that are from the nightmare stalker monster but i cant really use the passives they have.
anyone got some tips wich armor and weapons should i be aiming for?
inner meteor
I'm not sure what spells you have, but you should probably be aiming for T.O armor and weapons.
scenic nova
I'm not sure what spells you have, but you should probably be aiming for T.O arm...
Legendary Fireball
restive oracle
hello, im playing this for some time now, im a Arcane Fighter and i got a few go...
start with greybeard staff flimsy journal, after that ugrade spell book and go artificier cane
mental sequoia
Hi hi, how do you bind jewellery? I.e the Iron Necklace (Amber)?
scenic nova
start with greybeard staff flimsy journal, after that ugrade spell book and go a...
Alright, artificier cane
restive oracle
Hi hi, how do you bind jewellery? I.e the Iron Necklace (Amber)?
you mean spell imbued on nechlace?
inner meteor
Legendary Fireball
If fire's your focus, then I'd try to hunt down the Primordial Caves and aim for Tectonic Crest armor and uh this guy's drop
scenic nova
I'm not sure what spells you have, but you should probably be aiming for T.O arm...
T.O IS?
mental sequoia
you mean spell imbued on nechlace?
I don't think they're spell imbued? It's just an iron necklace with an amber in it, says it needs to be bound to apply the Haste, but I've no idea how to do that lmao
scenic nova
How about weapons?
restive oracle
I don't think they're spell imbued? It's just an iron necklace with an amber in ...
is that the familiar thing?
restive oracle
How about weapons?
arti cane is your weapon.. ๐
mental sequoia
is that the familiar thing?
No, it's just a regular piece of jewllery, I don't think its a familiar thing?
scenic nova
If fire's your focus, then I'd try to hunt down the Primordial Caves and aim for...
Alright
inner meteor
arti cane is your weapon.. ๐
I think they're looking for a melee weapon
latent wadi
how i can parry when i dont see when he go attack ? xd
inner meteor
I think they're looking for a melee weapon
Given that they said they were an Arcane Fighter
pearl condor
No, it's just a regular piece of jewllery, I don't think its a familiar thing?
keybinds
there should be valoria keybind for that
scenic nova
I think they're looking for a melee weapon
yes yes melee
pearl condor
how i can parry when i dont see when he go attack ? xd
mental sequoia
there should be valoria keybind for that
Oh good thank you! I tried looking for it but didn't see anything, I'll look again, thanks :)
pearl condor
just look @ keys in keybinds from Valoria mod specifically
there should be something regarding that
restive oracle
Given that they said they were an Arcane Fighter
aah, quest book drops enough tbf, else marium has stuff to make i guess
mental sequoia
just look @ keys in keybinds from Valoria mod specifically
Yes yes, it is done, thought it meant something else but it literally was just a keybind lmao
pearl condor
scenic nova
thank you guys
small ledge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk2moM7A2jk
the modpack uses 1.3.3 and not 2.0
and ofc, i already tried lightning strike. doesn't work
pearl condor
(idea was, try pondering)
or ask @runic warren
he's a pro at create, he did create enchanting in this pack
small ledge
no info in pondering
latent wadi
its there any teleport home ? or just waystone ?
pearl condor
no info in pondering
idk how accurate is this
small ledge
idk how accurate is this
i'm seeing those too, i just don't see the recipe in-game related to mixing experience. must have been missed out on early versions of CEI
latent wadi
can i teach this somelike or i need always use this scroll ?
restive oracle
put it in spellbook
small ledge
can i teach this somelike or i need always use this scroll ?
this spell and other teleportation spells crashed my server a lot lmao
pearl condor
no
flimsy/ironbound are starting books
the spellbooks have "x spell slots" in it's legend
pearl condor
this spell and other teleportation spells crashed my server a lot lmao
yes, there's a bug rn where some/all tp spells crash, we think when you use them next to other entity/if used by small size characters
latent wadi
how to put in ?
pearl condor
inscribing table
inscription table?
something like that
you open it, put book inside, then put scroll at bottom slot and push the button
and that's it
small ledge
also made a datapack just so I can add the alchemy cauldron's recipe to create's mixing, rn alchemy cauldron's doesn't accept create's ink from Create: Wizardry
https://github.com/TTZPlayz/Create-Wizardry/issues/6
pearl condor
you make new book
or there are .. uhh search in jei for "slots" I think?
there is a thing made from hogskin to upgrade books up to 12 slots
and then T.O adds two things to upgrade books to 15 slots
dense oysterBOT
There is no best, it's based on preference. What's best is to try it out yourself as what you like may be something someone else dislikes.
restive oracle
also made a datapack just so I can add the alchemy cauldron's recipe to create's...
@inner meteor ๐ our loving issue from yesterday lol
latent wadi
but i mean like with 12 slots
pearl condor
but i mean like with 12 slots
yes, slots are meaningless tho
as you can make item to get more slots
restive oracle
but i mean like with 12 slots
there like 8 with 12 slots
latent wadi
i see i see thx
latent wadi
but dont worry i forgot everything if we gonna play with friends so im gonna ask again xd
small ledge
<@992912987075645570> ๐ our loving issue from yesterday lol
thanks god i'm not alone with this, i racked my brain out figuring out why the heck is not mixing in the cauldron hahaha
inner meteor
<@992912987075645570> ๐ our loving issue from yesterday lol
I'm think it's because it's referenced as create_wizardry in game, but irons_spellbooks in the files
restive oracle
thanks god i'm not alone with this, i racked my brain out figuring out why the h...
i can get it mixing but the pipes dont accept the ink properly, but i cant figure out what triggers the crash
restive oracle
I'm think it's because it's referenced as `create_wizardry` in game, but `irons_...
fixable with next update or does wizardy need to fix this?
small ledge
basing on the github issue, the mod author is waiting for ISS to update their api rework
inner meteor
fixable with next update or does wizardy need to fix this?
I'd have to test it later
restive oracle
basing on the github issue, the mod author is waiting for ISS to update their ap...
so theoretical, if iss gets updated it might be fixed?
small ledge
so made a mixing version of the alchemy cauldron
small ledge
so theoretical, if iss gets updated it might be fixed?
i believe the mod author has to update the mod after ISS does the update
inner meteor
Which they have
small ledge
Which they have
ISS done with api rework?
inner meteor
Oh maybe not
Not sure
Kinda goofy though that the mod has all the inks as fluids when they don't even really work because of filtering issues
hearty gorge
If I chose paladin with oath of the ancients as a subclass, (defensive, support, holy and nature spells) should I not go intelligence? Because I don't have much legendary ink but I feel like my damage isn't coming from my spells seeing that I only use beam and smite. I don't know if I'm missing a spell or something
I'm mainly just buffing myself and swinging
restive oracle
If I chose paladin with oath of the ancients as a subclass, (defensive, support,...
you need intelligence to read enchantns books, also it gives cooldown reduction
gentle elm
when hosting a server for Otherworld wat are the minum specs i shouild have for the system hosting the server and is it very intense heavy on the cpu?
restive oracle
If I chose paladin with oath of the ancients as a subclass, (defensive, support,...
also dont forget, spells get stronger with your spell power, int gives you a full 100% extra power
hearty gorge
you need intelligence to read enchantns books, also it gives cooldown reduction
Does support spells also get affected by int?
restive oracle
Does support spells also get affected by int?
think so
hearty gorge
Hmmm...
restive oracle
iirc alll spells scale with generic spell power
just upgraed my int spell power and holy scrolls got stronger
so just get int even though you support role
restive oracle
all spells scale with generic spell power, considering you're holy and nature try to aim for the primordal or tectonic set
holy power sadly has no end set
hearty gorge
Is there any nature spell I should be looking into? I've felt that I haven't found any good ones
restive oracle
There a lot better ones
20 CD is nice tho
restive oracle
Is there any nature spell I should be looking into? I've felt that I haven't fou...
Seismic turf is one of the spells used for flying iirc
But others idk
restive oracle
Sad
cedar scroll
20 CD is nice tho
True
cedar scroll
Seismic turf is one of the spells used for flying iirc
Dont like it that much
It takes ages till it starts
woven marsh
Where to find Gauntlet Arena?
cedar scroll
I just use angel wings and rockets
Yeah best combo
I use teleport or blood step tho
So i dont have to use rockets hahahaah
Just teleport in the air
Then glide slowly but surley
cedar scroll
Where to find Gauntlet Arena?
On a massive arena made out of blackstone, SITTING at the base of the NETHER
Looks like this, it doesnt have to be right on lava
But tbf the description tells you EXACTLY what to look for
pearl condor
Is this the place?
find end portal
but yes, that looks like the right place
yk how eye leads to stronghold and not always to the portal room? same here
vocal kernel
what are some structures that has evoker spawn in other than that one ship
pearl condor
what are some structures that has evoker spawn in other than that one ship
are you asking for general purposes or shell horn specifically?
if general purposes - vanilla thing
vocal kernel
i just wanna find evokers
to get the egg
for spawner with capturing
cuz they dont spawn in raid
pearl condor
woodland mansions have few, I believe
vocal kernel
nothing has more evokers ?
pearl condor
idk
prob there is structures that have it
but.... no way to find em other than exploration
||If you using /locate, atp just use /give||
vocal kernel
its a server plus i just wanna try to see how many i can kill
also is theres a reason for them not spawning raids?
fluid locust
certain pillager caravans can have an evoker. You'll get a popup when you're near one, they spawn pretty frequently but will be easier to spot in biomes like plains and savannas
you're also pretty much guaranteed at least 2 per raid
pearl condor
you're also pretty much guaranteed at least 2 per raid
They aren't getting them from raids
fluid locust
wierd
caravans would be a strong option then. The server I'm on had to turn off mobs attacking minecolonies villagers because random caravans kept spawning inside our walls and going on murder sprees
glacial flare
Guys, please tell me where to find this dungeon in Paradise?
vocal kernel
you're also pretty much guaranteed at least 2 per raid
raid is just 3 stages with only pillagers one vindicator
thats what i am trying to figure out why
fluid locust
I think if you kill more pillager captains before starting a raid you should get more waves
glacial flare
https://aether.fandom.com/wiki/Gold_Dungeon
Oh okayy tyvm
vocal kernel
I think if you kill more pillager captains before starting a raid you should get...
so the tier of the exile effect matter?
fluid locust
yes
vocal kernel
ok lemme try
fluid locust
evokers spawn at waves 4 and 5
vocal kernel
hopefully i iwll get a 4th wave
fluid locust
just chill outside an outpost for a bit and you should be able to hit level 3 bad omen reasonably quickly
vocal kernel
level 3 is max?
river crypt
Hi, I was trying to make a netherite farm and I got a Demon Lord egg to use on my spawner but I can't figure out what's stopping them from spawning. Is it just straight up impossible to spawn them ?
fluid locust
I think the max is 5 but I have no idea, I usually only trigger raids by accident
some spawn eggs can't be placed in spawners. It should say on the egg's description in the inventory
pearl condor
Hi, I was trying to make a netherite farm and I got a Demon Lord egg to use on m...
- they may be disabled in config from spawning - for obvious reasons
- you should crouch and do ss of spawner - that would give a bit info into your issue
pearl condor
some spawn eggs can't be placed in spawners. It should say on the egg's descript...
They have egg already from what I read just it's not spawning
river crypt
Yeah I already placed it in the spawner, it worked. I also tried in a creative world using an end dragon egg on it to ignore spawn conditions and it worked this way so maybe it is balanced to only work post ender dragon ?
pearl condor
that may be the case
river crypt
The spawner had pretty much every other conditions disabled except for the ender dragon
Okay, thank you for the replies ๐
fluid locust
good to know if I need a netherite farm
rn I just have a vanilla enderman farm to get all the gems and reforge materials I need, plus a bit of iron, gold, and diamonds from the rare ones
the only problem is cosmic cod spawning and eating into the mob cap
restive oracle
good to know if I need a netherite farm
structure in the nether has ancient knight spawners, they give netherite scraps
just put waystone next to it and done
fluid locust
sounds good. I might make a redstone/iron farm first though. I got hilariously lucky when looking for harbinger and got eggs for both of the fodder enemies that spawn in his dungeon
then again I have high levels in capturing and scavenger on my weapon
pearl condor
structure in the nether has ancient knight spawners, they give netherite scraps
not rly spawners
as they are on a timer
they spawn like 6, then go into "rest period"
fluid locust
you could probably just farm one of those with a capturing weapon until you got a spawn egg to make an actual spawner farm though
restive oracle
you could probably just farm one of those with a capturing weapon until you got ...
thats why im trying lol, no succes yet
silver patrol
try entering the pocket dimension with wither skeleton race, there's a funny interaction that happens
restive oracle
not rly spawners
once a day go there and gives 20-30 scraps
pearl condor
try entering the pocket dimension with wither skeleton race, there's a funny int...
do we have wither skele race in otherworld?
I know there's undead
pearl condor
you could probably just farm one of those with a capturing weapon until you got ...
you can't
I believe - Chin said something - that ancient knights are disabled from capturing
fluid locust
nvm then
rocky lantern
Well as of right now, I have it so everyone else has the mod pack as normal with Luna, and I'm the only one who's disabled Luna and installed e4mc. So far I've had no issues. If an update ever gets pushed out for Luna like you said, maybe I'll switch back, but for now just using e4mc normally is working
young drum
how do i get rid of this box next to my cursor
inner meteor
fluid locust
is it just me or is the mechanized exoskeleton set just hilariously powerful
pearl condor
how do i get rid of this box next to my cursor
prob K key on keyboard
usually it's that iirc
fluid locust
it's got a little less defense than dragonsteel but you get ridiculously powerful flight and lightning magic has some of the stronger damage-dealing spells
pearl condor
(look in keybinds for rotation lock or smth like that)
pearl condor
it's got a little less defense than dragonsteel but you get ridiculously powerfu...
have you ever tried forlorn harbringer
it has funny flight too
fluid locust
I haven't yet
granted defensive magic seems to not be great and it's all I have access to
the number one defense spell in my arsenal (Oakskin) is already auto-cast by my reforge modifiers
chilly bronze
weird issuer
fluid locust
then again Root is also crazy good, especially against dragons
young drum
prob `K` key on keyboard
its not
chilly bronze
when i try to make andesite alloys
in a basin
the iron instead gets turned into coins
fluid locust
make an andesite alloy manually and then set it as filter on the basin
inner meteor
it's got a little less defense than dragonsteel but you get ridiculously powerfu...
It's like a 2.2% difference in defense
fluid locust
yeah it's not a big difference, but it is technically worse
it does have a significant difference in armor toughness though
when I swapped to it I went from 40 toughness to 30
young drum
Anyone knows how to disable this box next to my cursor or what mod it belongs too ?
chilly bronze
make an andesite alloy manually and then set it as filter on the basin
ty
fluid locust
it's from quark. idk how to disable it
fluid locust
ty
in general when automating it's best practice to spam filters. Otherwise if you run out of iron it might do wierd stuff like make polished andesite
fluid locust
when I swapped to it I went from 40 toughness to 30
that being said, I still have over 100 defense
(shields with gems are fair and balanced I swear)
inner meteor
it *does* have a significant difference in armor toughness though
Armor Toughness literally does nothing at that high of an amount
fluid locust
yeah I just figured it was worth mentioning. When I finished the reforges and moving my gems over I tried it against Scylla and was able to just stand there tanking everything
live footage of Scylla attempting to damage me
silver patrol
do we have wither skele race in otherworld?
yeah thats the undead
+5 sword damage
armor toughness does little at that point prob just a -2 from a 100 dmg at most
might as well stack smth else
fluid locust
I pretty much just focus on stacking armor and max health
fluid locust
I also got my hands on a hydra heart a while ago so even if something somehow manages to start burning through my 5 rows of hearts I will regenerate faster and faster
red widget
I've never hosted a server locally, does it take a lot of RAM to have like 5 other people join in? Does it take anything more to host?
pearl condor
I've never hosted a server locally, does it take a lot of RAM to have like 5 oth...
it would take ~10 gigs for server
!server has a self-hosting guide
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If you are installing one of our older modpacks, ignore the "README" file that is included in the serverpack files, as they have outdated information.
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pearl condor
no
base recomended is 3-4
then we recomend 1gb per player
We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.
10 is safe'ish ammount
silver patrol
do pregen the chunks
pearl condor
!pregen
dense oysterBOT
silver patrol
or someone with angel wings will murder the server performance
the 2 servers I was on folded when I went full speed loading 30 chunks per second
red widget
it would take ~10 gigs for server
Oh, so 10 base and 10 on top as a host? I'm pretty sure the base recommended amount is 10, hence the question
pearl condor
you repeated same question twice
are you a bot or what
because I answered you
here
@red widget
red widget
Yeh, I'm still here
red widget
uhh, lemme ctrl+f that, when i click either of them the chat kinda scrolls up a few pixels
red widget
Oh, there we go
pearl condor
<@427456792868552704>
Do you see picture here
red widget
Thank you very much โค๏ธ
pearl condor
red widget
That's actually a lot less than I expected
pearl condor
I am asking this as one user wasn't able to see images I send
and few users were not able to see bot messages
which is super weird
pearl condor
That's actually a lot less than I expected
well, yeah, good for you ig - tho as we mentioned - pregeneration is also important
This modpack requires exploration and pregen may make it easier on server
red widget
Oh, absolutely. We don't want the world to generate midgame for our potatomancers, respectfully
sleek peak
Anyone know if its possible to disable specific cantrips?
fortify its god damn braindead
i get 9 hearts for like 9 mana with like 2 seconds cd
restive oracle
Anyone know if its possible to disable specific cantrips?
Config maybe
Else just don't use it..?
amber fox
is there a known bug with the iron spells not working?
i can only use 1 spell in my book, switching to other ones doesnt change the selected one
wel it does, but itll just say the first ones on cooldown, and itll cast the first one again once its avaiable again
hearty gorge
How do I destroy items? If I throw them on lava, they don't destroy, neither do cacti. They just stay there
pearl condor
How do I destroy items? If I throw them on lava, they don't destroy, neither do ...
bucket lava, then drag items over lava bucket in inv and rmb xd
sleek peak
Else just don't use it..?
Its for my server
And yes config, was looking in otherworld config instead of origins config
amber fox
https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/m3hFW2xe5fXxez2mu?invite=cr-MSw4OUgsNDk5O...
its not because of bugged races/classes, doesnt work in creative either
hearty gorge
bucket lava, then drag items over lava bucket in inv and rmb xd
omg thanks
pearl condor
its not because of bugged races/classes, doesnt work in creative either
have you modified pack? what launcher you using? did you check keybinds for overlaps and whatnot?
amber fox
have you modified pack? what launcher you using? did you check keybinds for over...
downloaded and played the modpack as is, using curseforge and i made sure to change the keybind a couple of times but it didnt help
settled for tab, and unbinded the other key that was using it but still, doesnt work
im on the newest version too
pearl condor
..
vocal kernel
yes raids are nerfed to the ground
pearl condor
try setting cast key on "v"
vocal kernel
bad omen 5 doesnt spawn evokers
amber fox
i had R before
amber fox
try setting cast key on "v"
cast, or spell wheel menu?
pearl condor
cast
pearl condor
because it seems like you CAN get spell wheel to pop open
amber fox
spell wheel on tab
pearl condor
but cast is stuck on one spell
for me , I chose spell wheel on middle mouse click and cast on v
tho ... there are two options for spell wheel
one is for hold one is for toggle iirc?
versed hazel
i get 9 hearts for like 9 mana with like 2 seconds cd
this is a confusing thing is nine hearts good or am i missing something
pearl condor
amber fox
i had quick cast first spell binded onto m5
pearl condor
the bane of humans
amber fox
no wonder it only picked the first spell
oh well, thanks a lot
wait actually, 1 more thing
i saw that magician/necromancers can summon skeletons, but i cant find anything related to it under keybinds
pearl condor
it's uh
x/g/h keybind
it's not from iron's
instead it's from.... origins?
click "o"
then read trough pages
inner meteor
Think it's X
pearl condor
it will tell keybind, for your presumably class cantrip
pearl condor
hearty gorge
Do spells apply sword enchantments? I use divine smite, and I want to know if it applies looting
inner meteor
No
pearl condor
Do spells apply sword enchantments? I use divine smite, and I want to know if it...
if you use melee weapon in main hand when casting spells, then spells seems to take affect
(speaking from experience with kota/scavenger/capturing)
inner meteor
hrmmmmm
pearl condor
hearty gorge
Okay, just checked with butcher's touch and it does indeed seem to apply
vocal kernel
anyone here is an ice and fire mod expert?
pearl condor
just ask question, cuz I assume you have one
vocal kernel
where to find the fire/lightning/ice lily
vocal kernel
just ask question, cuz I assume you have one
I am only here for questions and praising you bela
pearl condor
where to find the fire/lightning/ice lily
it spawns on top of the ground, where i&f could spawn
I believe
vocal kernel
what does that mean
pearl condor
pearl condor
https://ice-and-fire-mod.fandom.com/wiki/Lilies
this tells where they can be found
vocal kernel
i legit read that like 10 times and never understood
pearl condor
but in general I meant where dragons can spawn - they have specific biomes - then lilies can spawn
vocal kernel
so they are just regular flowers
pearl condor
i legit read that like 10 times and never understood
Fire Lily - They can be found in Deserts, Savanna or Nether
Frost Lily - They can be found in cold biomes such as Snowy Tundras and Ice Spikes. Villagers can also sell them if they are a scribe.
Lightning Lily - They can be found in the Savanna and the Mesa biomes.
vocal kernel
like the wither flowers ?
pearl condor
they spawn naturally + method for frost
vocal kernel
โค๏ธ
pearl condor
Ok back to killing Kitava I go
leaden grove
well, ive been on a mission to create an infinite lava source on the overworld, and have filled a 25x25x17 cube with laval source block, but the hose pulley is not registering a infinite source
pearl condor
well, ive been on a mission to create an infinite lava source on the overworld, ...
I have easier , tiny bit, thing for you to try
tho you will need to redo it a bit
16x16x40
fill only top layer with lava
then let it flow down
create in some packs don't check for flowing or source and would see it as 10k
also, uhh, you could check for your case with engineers goggles?
leaden grove
i have, i have 10625 actual source blocks filling a 25x25x16deep pool, hose pulley is not registering that its over the limit, checked with goggles, and confirmed by trying to pump it out and it takes source blocks
plain comet
hey how am i meant to get raw beef from cows? they only drop their bodies :/
fluid locust
do you have butcher's touch on your weapon? If so, remove it
leaden grove
hey how am i meant to get raw beef from cows? they only drop their bodies :/
dont use a knife, or the butcher enchant
vocal kernel
create in some packs don't check for flowing or source and would see it as 10k
the fact that everytime i do that i just fill 10k blocks of lava teared me
plain comet
dont use a knife, or the butcher enchant
i dont have a knife or the enchant i just use a sword
vocal kernel
i have, i have 10625 actual source blocks filling a 25x25x16deep pool, hose pull...
if youre in the overworld check under your base for lava river it usually contains 10k blocks
thats what i did
fluid locust
I just make a system to retrieve lava from the nether
it even chunkloads itself from the buckets being passed back and forth all the time
leaden grove
that does not solve my problem of already having the 10625 blocks of lava, im looking for answers as to why that source is not infinite
pearl condor
i dont have a knife or the enchant i just use a sword
did you modify the pack?
What sword you using? can you share screenshot?
pearl condor
no clue but the cows by default in modpack, when killed with such sword would drop beef
and corpses from butchery probably would mean maybe you have some weapon/equipment whatever that does change the dafault
snow cove
any tips to kill lag?
pearl condor
any tips to kill lag?
what sort of lag
leaden grove
update on the lava source, i noticed it say infinite once, im not sure why, trying to figure it out lol
sullen kite
Is there any way to regenerate iron spell's structures for quest's?
pearl condor
yes
questbook tutorial tab gave you that info
there's... wayfinders medalion? whatever the name
sullen kite
questbook tutorial tab gave you that info
If u mean the medalion or the orb, they dont work for iron for example pyromancer, its not considering this
pearl condor
(check tutorial tab)
pearl condor
If u mean the medalion or the orb, they dont work for iron for example pyromance...
oh those, just find new one
shouldn't be that hard?
sullen kite
oh those, just find new one
Easy to say on a multiplayer server...
pearl condor
yup
well, if those don't work, then no
other than finding new one there is no way for those ones
sullen kite
Kinda sad, in big servers finding dragons and iron's structure is pretty meh
vocal kernel
Kinda sad, in big servers finding dragons and iron's structure is pretty meh
use the pie chart in f3
young drum
Does geode encased bookshelf of stability exsist in otherworld modpack ?
plain comet
loot is bugged with the night lich, nothing dropped for me
vivid fable
are the world share servers down? im not getting the ip when i turn it on?
brittle forge
i got a dragon stage 4. i can mount it and give it armor but i cant move with it. anyone knows why?
pearl condor
Does geode encased bookshelf of stability exsist in otherworld modpack ?
no ( 
moment)
pearl condor
are the world share servers down? im not getting the ip when i turn it on?
!wsfull
dense oysterBOT
World Sharing servers are likely currently at capacity
If you or your friend are receiving an error such as "An error occurred in Luna", or "Connection refused: no further information" when trying to play through "Open to LAN" or "Share World", it's likely that Luna's servers (used for world sharing) are currently full. We don't have a way to know when slots on our servers free up, but you are welcome to try again later.
We understand and recognize that this may be inconvenient, so we recommend in this case to host or rent your own server. Self-hosting is free, for more information on supported hosting options, type !server in #bots.
If you'd prefer an alternate world sharing mod such as Essential over the previous methods, risks of it are outlined in !ea, as well as how to use it if you accept the risks and void of support.
This command does NOT change or know if they are full or not, this is something ran as the most common issue.
pearl condor
i got a dragon stage 4. i can mount it and give it armor but i cant move with it...
known thing that you can't WALK dragons - you can still FLY them
vivid fable
!wsfull
oh no dw it wasnt this! i legit just wasnt getting the ip at all and only the local port
i got it fixed tho
brittle forge
known thing that you can't WALK dragons - you can still FLY them
why cant i walk ๐
pearl condor
"known thing"
may be a bug
may be something disabled
or not in this i&f version
cedar scroll
<:Shrug:1463071008603770891>
I have fully enchanted prot 5 dragonsteel with purple reforging and all legendary scrolls. Can i try cornelia?
cedar scroll
pearl condor
don't forget weakness pot
cedar scroll
Lowkey afraid ill dye
pearl condor
(splash)
cedar scroll
don't forget weakness pot
๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
pearl condor
cedar scroll
don't forget weakness pot
But now fr if i really was fully enchanted dragonsteel would i really need that weakness pot
latent wadi
what is nexus dimension ?
young drum
no ( <:usejei:822906946856288287> moment)
i did but it doesnt show so i thought maybe my modpack is missing something
pearl condor
the more you know ig
brittle forge
weird stuff is going on when you cast spells with butchers knife in hand and got looting scavenger and teleporting mob drops to you
pearl condor
weird how
brittle forge
got like 30 corpses from like 8 cows
pearl condor
I mean
scavenger does that?
and looting
looting increases drops , scavenger rerolls table again
brittle forge
if i just use the knife without spells its kinda not
pearl condor
you sure, or is it "not to such degree of drops"
brittle forge
yea smaller amounts i guess
pearl condor
that could very much be just rng tho
brittle forge
its more like a 50/50 to get 2 drops from one
cedar scroll
If i cast chain lighning with a weapon that has teleport mob drops?๐ do i get them all teleported?๐
I was doing som funny stuff in the nether with chain lightning
pearl condor
If i cast chain lighning with a weapon that has teleport mob drops?๐ do i get t...
should do, yes
cedar scroll
Funny spell ๐
pearl condor
same as with aoe spells
cedar scroll
Build up 3 and chill while having thunderstrom
brittle forge
should do, yes
how are you so wise?
pearl condor
cedar scroll
Ahh no thats vortex upper cut
cedar scroll
Wait where did you find this? 4 spawners chilling like that
pearl condor
how are you so wise?
I have played minecraft for a while, modpacks of varying difficulty - hardest ones so far were divine journey 2 and meatballcraft
I am able to do research when needed - I know how to use google and search function
- I am in general just ig... bit smarter, cuz I am not a kid anymore
pearl condor
Wait where did you find this? 4 spawners chilling like that
end city
pearl condor
(you can also move spawners with create)
cedar scroll
Shh the shulker spawners
pearl condor
Shh the shulker spawners
yup
cedar scroll
(you can also move spawners with create)
Create is to complex for. Me ๐
I mean a tutorial is all you need
But to much andesite
pearl condor
Create is to complex for. Me ๐
sec
cedar scroll
+ I am in general just ig... bit smarter, cuz I am not a kid anymore
Ahh thats why (really really smart)
pearl condor
moving spawners with create isn't that resource demanding
you just need , maybe, a lot of rails
restive oracle
this thing works pretty decent, not to overpowered/easy to get the skill points
๐ lemme make my life harder
pearl condor
I mean
it is easy to abuse
esp with apoth , these combat skills
you can farm xp at spawner farms easy
restive oracle
everything cna be baused with config files lol
restive oracle
eh no
pearl condor
I can't see top of pic
restive oracle
its spells used
restive oracle
there is,..
pearl condor
because that's how puffish acts on default I think
pearl condor
there is,..
so if there is xp bar, then there is xp
restive oracle
but the "xp" it needs are spell uses
pearl condor
pearl condor
but the "xp" it needs are spell uses
yeah - I didn't mean "xp" as in vanilla xp (that's on me for not specifying)
restive oracle
yeah and cantrips dont count
pearl condor
you can still farm it - unless it is changed in config - prom had it where it was limiting puffish xp gain after x kills in chunk
but even then
create contraption exists
you can just move spawner to new chunk
restive oracle
lol
pearl condor
yeah and cantrips dont count
not that there's bazillion cheap spells
it also prob scales off dmg you deal - the xp you get to skill tree
but eh
restive oracle
pearl condor
all I will say, you do you
pearl condor
have you considered these stats are taken with mod alone, in vacuum ?
(thus they may not be accurate in this modpack)
restive oracle
yeha but still, it gives a kind estimate
its not like its only 50 casts now instead of 5000
pearl condor
eh
whatever makes you have fun
ig I am playing poe cuz of that reason
skill tree
fun
funni
cedar scroll
tf ahhaahahhhaha
pearl condor
that's why we are getting rework of bounty board
cedar scroll
that's why we are getting rework of bounty board
yeah ASAP
vivid fable
can i tame this? its a random ice dragon
brittle forge
you can kill it for sure
vivid fable
you can kill it for sure
i want my own dragon but ive yet to find eggs
vivid fable
find them?
IVE YET TO ACTUALLY i havent exactly. found any underground dragons + i'd want an ice one to fit my skin, any tips?
restive oracle
skill tree
that thing is bigger than the avatar tree
brittle forge
kill it then wear it as armor
woven marsh
can i tame this? its a random ice dragon
Can't tame random ones, need to find a T4/T5 female cave underground and kill it to get an egg, the egg will be the same colour/type as the female
restive oracle
can i tame this? its a random ice dragon
as far as i encountered, they are always hostile, just kill female and get egg
woven marsh
The only tip I have is using a different map like Xaero's to look underground 
restive oracle
first of many more to come lol
cedar scroll
A lightning from thunderstorm and one chain lightning was enought
restive oracle
spectral hammer my man
whats andesite lol
brave yew
what class y'all play?
restive oracle
half elf drow
brave yew
class not race man
im also a half elf drow tho lol
like im a warlock
i got a buddy whos a rogue
restive oracle
wizard
brave yew
oh W
i mostly play solo
so i didnt wanna be too squishy
im a geomancing warlock
petrivise is goated
brave yew
i see i see
i have this strange thing where i gotta be in my enemies face
or i feel like a chump
so i cant commit to being a real wizard
i gotta party up like a real table
cause i like dnd
its more fun that way lowk
brave yew
im trying to find people to play w
vivid fable
why cant my friend see my skin? its default on their screen
simple basin
where do i find the massive floating city and take the altar offering?
its meant to be in aether?
simple basin
its meant to be in aether?
nvm i just found it
zinc cedar
zinc cedar
why cant my friend see my skin? its default on their screen
!alternates
dense oysterBOT
If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.
To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab, this is important as OSX WILL crash the game on Mac.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM
To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.
vivid fable
!alternates
do i need to do this or them? i see their skin fine, its me they cant see properly
zinc cedar
you need to
plain comet
there is a nasty bug that resets the entire chapter, this needs to be looked at big time
where can i report bugs??
keen mauve
where is the desert necklace
sleek peak
so
theres a bug
when u die
and press ESC
u can see around and cast spells
so u jst let something kill u
and u can use spells
frozen sentinel
Add Qlipoth as a true end game
flint wasp
and u can use spells
Ya someone mentioned this before
devout siren
i havent seen one of these guys like. at all but i want to find some for my xp farm to try and get arcane dust are they disabled
devout siren
where is the desert necklace
if its the same from past packs you can dig it up with the brushs in the dungeon where you fight the dino
sleek peak
Any item that lets u change the color of ur enchants?
like the purple shine ur stuff gets when enchanted
errant chasm
not sure if this is in the pack but iirc quark has runic etchings that do that
pure basin
is there a way to keep your items when you die?
also is there a way to set spawn in the nether?
sleek peak
is there a way to keep your items when you die?
/gamerule keepinventory true
put that command in chat
sleek peak
also is there a way to set spawn in the nether?
that minecraft block uhh
Respawn Anchor
pure basin
hmm. itโs not working. do i need to enable cheats? how do i do that?
sleek peak
hmm. itโs not working. do i need to enable cheats? how do i do that?
u need cheats on yes, it u have them on you can
open LAN and turn cheats on
pure basin
i donโt see lan. iโm on my bisect server
pure basin
yes
sleek peak
go to the console
and input the same command without the /
gamerule keepinventory true
pure basin
what is the console? sorry ๐
sleek peak
u might wanna do
op (ur username)
so u have cheats on ingame
and dont have to use the console for everything
pure basin
thank you so much. that is awesome. i appreciate it! ๐
gaunt oriole
Has anyone figured out how to add custom races/classes to the modpack?
pure basin
so i have tried to kill the corpse warlock a hundred times. i set a respawn there and tried with friends, used great armor, great swords. idk how to beat him. please does ANYBODY have any tips? he just spawns too many minions and regenerates so fast?
static hill
hey how does one get unbreakable items, with artificers being the only ones to get mending, I imagine theres another way to preserve your cool tools
sleek peak
hey how does one get unbreakable items, with artificers being the only ones to g...
Life-Mending
mending but received healing repairs ur stuff
static hill
i see
pure basin
so i have tried to kill the corpse warlock a hundred times. i set a respawn ther...
plz gimme advice
sleek peak
so i have tried to kill the corpse warlock a hundred times. i set a respawn ther...
he regenerates due to said minion, get some good aoe
and use aoe on minions, single target on him
more minons > more regen > impossible to kill
wooden storm
Are there any genuinly dogshit builds I should avoid as an early player. Idc whats strong but I dont want to spend my inks only to realize its all useless
pure basin
thank you i will try!
eager token
anyone know how to make the vertical slabs?
devout siren
the posture break meter has been there all day is there a way to shrink it or get rid of it
pure basin
lmao i would lov to know how ๐
pearl condor
I beat cornelia <@958961142422712370>
Yay
pearl condor
anyone know how to make the vertical slabs?
You don't?
This is not hytale / I think we don't have mod for that here
pearl condor
Are there any genuinly dogshit builds I should avoid as an early player. Idc wha...
Inks are easy to come by with how much exploration you will do. Just read what spell does and make em, or creative test world
errant chasm
Inks are easy to come by with how much exploration you will do. Just read what s...
tfw makes lightning lance with legendary ink thinking the cooldown and cast time can tick down simultaneously only to find out that they in fact do not
pearl condor
errant chasm
real
tonight im prolly gonna try out going fully into aqua+lightning since i randomly got to fight scylla
o7 lightning dragon priest armor
did not end up using you as long as i thought i would
pearl condor
waiting for the end to come
pearl condor
you can get + levels for multiple schools
yeah
errant chasm
wait that staff is so highroll no
does life steal even work on spells tho
tell me it doesn't
pearl condor
!tryit
dense oysterBOT
errant chasm
i'm just going to pretend that it doesn't
and hope it doesn't too
i wonder if i can go to the end to farm and then just use a warp spell to leave without doing anything related to the ender dragon first
pearl condor
i wonder if i can go to the end to farm and then just use a warp spell to leave ...
why warp spell
when waystone exists
we did go to end, I went and got elytra for myself and Jake
and after that we invited some players from like chapter 3 and we fought dragon
silver patrol
Add Qlipoth as a true end game
#suggestions made one weeks ago dunno if its considered tho
pearl condor
errant chasm
why warp spell
doesn't warp spell go to spawn
pearl condor
doesn't warp spell go to spawn
don't you have waystone @ spawn
errant chasm
nope
just run around in your world on the surface
you'll know you've found it when the boss bar appears on your screen
pearl condor
Its underground right?
kinda
as Free said - run arround till u see boss bar
then run arround looking at ground , for a hole to jump in
it will be with like bricks, and decent size hole
you jump - boss is there
hexed zinc
I thought i needed to dig underground because there was this one large box like bulge on the surface
I did, i found a spot where whenever i move the compass twists a full 180
pearl condor
I did, i found a spot where whenever i move the compass twists a full 180
moonstone compass?
the structure should have enterance from top of ground unless some weird world gen shananigans happen
but even then - it would be pretty close to surface
bleak mural
is there a way to farm affix items such as luminous crystal or arcane sands?
cedar scroll
What render distance yall using?
cedar scroll
is there a way to farm affix items such as luminous crystal or arcane sands?
Kill mobs
brisk vigil
cedar scroll
Rare spawn i feel the same
pearl condor
What render distance yall using?
12
pearl condor
@burnt jewel
cedar scroll
Im always thinking of putting render distance down so my pc aint that loud
Or putting it even higher for the looks๐
Disabeling shaders i dont want to
Bc i got a 240hz 1080p monitor that i bought for fast fps shooters games like cod
For minecraft 1080p without shaders look really bad
I mean its aight but damn shaders look so much cleaner
green veldt
I've gone through like 3 brushes looking for the necklace for ancient remnant
am I just super unlucky or is it a specific spot?
fast urchin
Hello everyone, please help, is it possible to somehow grow aloe or do I only need to get it from Savane? Thanks in advance
pearl condor
I've gone through like 3 brushes looking for the necklace for ancient remnant
soo, you know where fall drop is, at top of pyramid, to go down to remnant?
you enter from one hole
and on same level there's 3 more holes
I always find my necklace in those holes
green veldt
I kinda... accidentally dug all the sand in those spots cause it said it was "buried"
pearl condor
gg wp
green veldt
didn't know you had to brush sand until I looked up info
pearl condor
use cheats to get necklace
or find new pyramid
I don't know if you can get necklace from other sus sand in pyramid
green veldt
playing on a friends server so I gotta find new pyramid I guess
pearl condor
yeah, will be pain
fast urchin
Hello everyone, please help, is it possible to somehow grow aloe or do I only ne...
Please help if possible, if not, okay, I just can't find anything on the internet.
pearl condor
Please help if possible, if not, okay, I just can't find anything on the interne...
are you sure it's not growing cuz of season maybe?
does it have some sort of season indicator on the seed/plant/whatever?
there is item called "Calendar"
two items actually
green veldt
I don't think you can grow aloe in this game? I know in some modpacks you can
pearl condor
we have seasons - plants may not grow in specific seasons
hot lodge
Should i play this modpack rn or there some big update soon?
green veldt
if anything try to see if you can put it in a pot and then bonemeal?
pearl condor
Should i play this modpack rn or there some big update soon?
you can play rn, you can wait 6 months for more updates
rn it's quite new, but playable and enjoyable
green veldt
also, found a new temple, instant 3 in a row so it might only be those rooms you can get the necklace
fast urchin
we have seasons - plants may not grow in specific seasons
I don't know how to get aloe seeds from the Valoria mod. Maybe they don't even exist? I don't know, that's why I'm asking.
pearl condor
I don't know how to get aloe seeds from the Valoria mod. Maybe they don't even e...
oh... you speaking of Valoria mod
there is uhh
valoria guide book
doesn't it have info?
fast urchin
oh... you speaking of Valoria mod
Yes
pearl condor
I don't know how to get aloe seeds from the Valoria mod. Maybe they don't even e...
@latent warren may be able to give that info too, if it is obtainable in 1.0.2.4 version - one that is currently in pack
fast urchin
I didn't know there was a book, I'll check it out now.
latent warren
<@591844839981711362> may be able to give that info too, if it is obtainable in ...
There's no Aloe seeds actually, but you can "dupe" them as any other plants using bone meal. Also you can use Shears to receive the plant
pearl condor
There's no Aloe seeds actually, but you can "dupe" them as any other plants usin...
@fast urchin ๐ฅ
green veldt
honestly the best way I think to mitigate limited aloe is either healing spells or if you're playing with no spells make the recipe with the flowers and seeds
I think the item is Healing herbs, can craft plaster with string and wool->bandage->Medkit
Eventually getting into lifestealing weapons for sustain
fast urchin
honestly the best way I think to mitigate limited aloe is either healing spells ...
Thank you very much, I play a mage and will probably use the regeneration spell.
green veldt
Healing circile is a really good one to use
I haven't changed it as my main source of healing since the beginning of ch1
restive oracle
Thank you very much, I play a mage and will probably use the regeneration spell.
get either the healing circle or just plain healing scroll
other option is blood spells
plain comet
can any dev look into this please?? ive lost so much progress that i really dont want to play this pack anymore
restive oracle
what if you can't cast spells
fortify cantrip
pearl condor
fortify cantrip
what if you can't cast cantrips
restive oracle
what if you can't cast cantrips
delete the game
pearl condor
can any dev look into this please?? ive lost so much progress that i really dont...
what is the bug exactly?
were you in ftb team -and then left it?
pearl condor
yes
that is the issue...
it's not a bug
you doing quests in a team
with a team
all progress is tied to a TEAM
and when you leave, you are like new "team"
team of you alone
so quests reset and you are now left with this
you can use edit mode - to force complete quests/chapters
plain comet
i think there should at least be a warning before leaving a team
pearl condor
i think there should at least be a warning before leaving a team
blame FTB mod
plain comet
its not like people will know this
plain comet
most ppl do know that
i disagree
pearl condor
unless u play in server and for some reason decide to ditch your team
pearl condor
i disagree
based on what?
you disagree that most ppl know it - based on the fact that YOU don't know it?
plain comet
based on what?
based on the fact that your claim cannot be proven the same way mine cant
pearl condor
it can
I know it
I know some other players who know it
actually a lot
do you know ppl, who use the mod
plain comet
thats anecdotal
pearl condor
and don't know of this
plain comet
yes
pearl condor
yes
how many
basically
all of staff team, I know , that they know of this mechanic
plain comet
i run a server with a bunch of friends and no one knew of this issue
pearl condor
so already 10+ members
plain comet
10 people thus far
plain comet
i mean you're arguing over semantics at this point which does not help in any way
pearl condor
yeah
I already answered your question tho too
how it isn't a bug
and how to "fix" it
plain comet
technically it is because i think before leaving the team the player should be made aware that their progress will not be lost
plain comet
in 90% of games you never lose your progress in a team, its only this mod
restive oracle
how to find cave tablets
plain comet
im just making a suggestion because not alot of people will know of this issue
pearl condor
im just making a suggestion because not alot of people will know of this issue
#suggestions would be proper place - but I am saying it is a thing most people usually know (unless u playing with the mod for the first time or experiencing it for the first time)
restive oracle
https://alexscaves.wiki.gg/wiki/Cave_Tablet
hmm, alrighty
pearl condor
<#875960331145461780> would be proper place - but I am saying it is a thing most...
Also Hixxy
are you sure tutorial quests don't explain that already somewhere
just asking
because if it does that would be silly moment
plain comet
cant tell if you're mocking me or not
pearl condor
I am not
I am even trying to install atl on my work pc rn
to go and see for myself
plain comet
i mean, sure
restive oracle
who says thats the screen you need lol
restive oracle
bruh, you running internet frfom 1990?
restive oracle
hm yeah lol
plain comet
governments throttle their internet to save money, i used to work for my government and they had the cheapest internet
restive oracle
lol still, i run this at home
