otherworld

[split condor]

justleveling and render entities

[rose ice]

What is the issue

[split condor]

The Just Leveling mod cannot generate entities from other mods, such as Alex Mobs or other types.

It's something like "mobautoleveling"

[red wraith]

Not a big deal you say. With knowing how apoth armor works, no melee will ever be able to touch the dragon on the left side. Their damage will basically always be nonexistant

[rose ice]

Talking about the HP

Armour wasn't affected

Relatively

[red wraith]

Got dragonsteel armor on the one on the left then?

[rose ice]

No just kept feeding it after it was fully grown

[red wraith]

Wtf

[rose ice]

Might have been becasue I was in creative, not sure

[red wraith]

Talk 'bout endless growth.

[rose ice]

Shouldn't have mattered

[red wraith]

Can you hit it?

[rose ice]

Probably, not in the game

[devout siren]

is there any create blocks that if rotatonal force is applyed it doesnt spin unless powered with redstone?

[split condor]

Does the Otherworld mod use a mod called "auto leveling lib"?

[rose ice]

Clutch I think

[pearl condor]

https://www.modpackindex.com/modpack/113343/otherworld-dungeons-dragons

[silver patrol]

worthy... trade...

[pearl condor]

from this I assume, yes

[silver patrol]

WORTHY TRADE!!!!!!

[pearl condor]

https://tenor.com/view/w-rizz-cat-w-rizz-cat-billy-zaki-billyzaki-gif-9818535820672947247

[split condor]

I want to use only the Origins mod for a modpack to play with friends

[pearl condor]

use original origins mod

[rose ice]

lol

[pearl condor]

otherworld origins mod, as dev said, shouldn't be used in other packs as of yet

[split condor]

I've used it before in another similar modpack and it worked fine, but now it's giving an error related to its own dependencies.

[indigo quarry]

what stones i must bring to the altars to finish chapter 5?

[rose ice]

You used the otherworld origin fork in a similar modpack?

[rose ice]

The six quest item stones

[split condor]

Yes, I usually make modpacks and use them on private servers with friends.

[pearl condor]

but did you use otherworld origins or no

[rose ice]

^

Pack has only been out for 3 weeks

You might be thinking of something else

[pearl condor]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/otherworld-origins/relations/dependencies

[split condor]

yes use it

I think the error lies in the specific versions of the dependencies.

[pearl condor]

right

well

as I said, as dev said

this mod shouldn't be used yet tbf

[split condor]

I think the problem is between the justleveling and a mod that adds a health bar to the mobs.

[indigo quarry]

i must get these stones to finish chapter 5?

[pearl condor]

yes

[rose ice]

Yes

[pearl condor]

those are elemental stones

[indigo quarry]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[pearl condor]

wtf you mean xdddd

[rose ice]

No Bela

Not xd, xD

[indigo quarry]

i must get three dragon forges?

[pearl condor]

no

read quests

[indigo quarry]

wait

[pearl condor]

they explain how to get them

[silver patrol]

this is slow as hell

silverfish xp isnt as great as i thought tbh

[rose ice]

Need to make your farm bigger

[silver patrol]

probably

just using that cheapest farm schematic

good trade offer

[plain comet]

probably a silly question but is there a way to extract an enchantment from a weapon into a book please?

[rose ice]

Do it

[silver patrol]

[rose ice]

Tome of Scrapping/Superior Scrapping/Extraction

[pearl condor]

read what they do before using them tho

[plain comet]

ty

[night roost]

damn i kinda feel like im slow af x) im still at the beginning of chapter 2

[pearl condor]

dw

ch 1 and 2 are longest imo

[night roost]

Tbf im more focused on my build than on finishing questlines lol
i havent even started to look at ch2

[plain comet]

chapter 2 for me is the real kicker, crafting the eyes takes alot and my farms keep breaking because of the seasons lol

[silver patrol]

does looting/scavenging affect silverfish xp?

KOTA isnt working on their egg drop

[plain comet]

capturing for their eggs

[pearl condor]

alone? no

with kota? yes

[silver patrol]

alr guess i'll get dem enchants

[silver patrol]

capturing would be prob be more worth on some big mobs with lotta item drops

[plain comet]

true

[coarse dock]

I have a zombie mob grinder built with Create, and the deployers are using regular weapons enchanted with Sharpness, Sweeping Edge, Looting, and Mending. Is there any way to make the deployers kill the zombies faster?

[silver patrol]

if you are already giving them 256rpm then thats kind ait

[coarse dock]

Yeah, they are at max rpm 🙁

[silver patrol]

yeah thats it

[winged hemlock]

yeah that would be why it's not recommended for other packs

it's heavily integrated into mods for the otherworld modpack

[silver patrol]

does KOTA work on swords in deployers

[pearl condor]

!tryit

[dense oyster]

https://tryitands.ee/

[silver patrol]

[winged hemlock]

kota will soon not work on anything

[silver patrol]

doom

[winged hemlock]

i've enacted a funny compromise where it deletes the enchantment when you swing it

[dusk salmon]

so

it sure does work well

[silver patrol]

boon of earth incident

[dusk salmon]

yummy enchants

[hasty walrus]

Are the luna pixel servers down or something?

Suddenly none of my friends can join over the world sharing features

Kinda dumb that it gives me an error for installing e4mc or essential when it has issues like this 😔

[long bison]

!ea

[dense oyster]

⚠️ Essential Mod Not Supported

We strongly recommend against using Essential with our modpacks, and we add a warning screen during modpack startup containing the following message by default. A free world-sharing alternative is already built-in called Luna - click Share World in the game menu to use it.

Why we don't support Essential:

• Technical issues: We've received multiple user reports of problems when combining Essential with our modpacks, including reports of world corruption. While there is no conclusive evidence of Essential as the definite cause, we do not have the development or support capacity to resolve issues potentially caused by it.

• Security concerns: Essential's auto-updater introduces potential security risks that are outside of our control.

• Ethics: We object to Essential's inclusion of in-game currency and microtransactions in an otherwise free modding environment.

If you choose to use Essential anyway

Please understand that you do so at your own risk and will not be eligible for support from our team. To remove this warning, you can open your modpack instance folder, navigate to config/crash_assistant/problematic_mods_config.json, and under essential-container, change should_crash_on_startup from true to false.

[sleek peak]

nah why is making uncommon ink into rare ink easier than making common ink into uncommon ink gng

whoops didnt mean to reply

mb all

[merry jacinth]

I need a good mage like origin in class to get started

And***

[foggy patio]

how would i make an xp farm?

[pearl condor]

drow warlock 🔥

[silver patrol]

i need that 500 xp lvls per second setup fr

time to apoth

[ruby compass]

Helo all. Anyone know how to party up in the minecraft Otherworld? Our summons attack the other players

[restive oracle]

zombie spawner with everything maxed

piglin brute has best xp drop tho

[hasty walrus]

Apparently the quest book mentions it @ruby compass

[ruby compass]

o ok, not at the start then but ill read more then XD

[silver patrol]

so just head to dead king?

i heard theres that double piglin brute spawner

never seen it ever

[ruby compass]

well i have to do alot of stuff first we would like to do together. Any change anyone know how to party up?

[hasty walrus]

I'd think that this would be in the information section of the quest book

There shouldn't be that much you have to do without them

[silver patrol]

wouldn't witch be the best with that 7 drops

[flint raven]

Why do my arms look like this? tf

[hasty walrus]

Do you have any trinkets or smth akin to that on?

I've had texture issues with some of those before

[restive oracle]

i have my zombie spawner in the catacombs yes, but thats bcs im at an intersection hallway with 2 halls with spawner and deadking room which gives mobs, so it gives me quite a lot

[ruby compass]

u mean the journal right? witch is refered to as a quest book. I just did the complete tutorial. No mention on party 🙁

[hasty walrus]

Strange, @pearl condor I was using your initial response to this question from a while ago. Could the quest book have changed since then?

[flint raven]

I had something that went in the "hands" slot. Thanks.

[ruby compass]

I think it has changed then because its not in the book/tutorial. I have other pages but those are the campaigns

[hasty walrus]

Then again the "questbook mentions that" Im looking at from bela may have been in response to someone talking about legendary spells

[ruby compass]

Oops hahah that might be it....or it has changed. Anyone playing multiplayer and know how to not let the skeletons that a player summoned, attack other players?

[pearl condor]

what my response

my memory is 💩

🐟

[hasty walrus]

I'd look at this link and set up a team with your members, it doesn't seem that this modpack has any built in party function so you'll need to enable cheats for this
Not a guarantee that it'll work either

[pearl condor]

non existent

so you gotta remind me

oh

[hasty walrus]

Back from up here Bela

[pearl condor]

well, idk

yeah yeah, I can see there

anywho - idk if questbook mention that or no - as I didn't look too deep into it - but I know it's a vanilla thing and I know we used it in our team - we did play on latest (v4hf) update

[hasty walrus]

Oki thank you for the help :D

[ruby compass]

ok. Used what in team? I am not sure if i follow. Its not in the questbook as far as i have seen.

[merry jacinth]

What’s a good starting mage weapon

[pearl condor]

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Commands/team

team function, from vanilla mc

feature

[pearl condor]

greybeard staff

or graybeard?

[merry jacinth]

Ok

[pearl condor]

the wizards at top of the hill

[merry jacinth]

How do I get the dust for it?

[pearl condor]

loot structures for it (magic based) / make with create

or just general structures may have it

[merry jacinth]

Ok

[ruby compass]

Thanks! For others that ask this question: This is the "fix" to party up (dont use the party menu, use Vanilla team (team add <name of team> and then team join <name of team> for both players)

It works, the summoned undead dont attack the other player that way anymore

[solemn tusk]

I was wondering if anyone could help me. Ive just started using minecolonies in the otherworld modpack. even if i manage to craft these "panel" items and place them in the inventory they do not count towards the resource inventory and therefore will not be built. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[indigo quarry]

how to find ender guardian?

[tawny sun]

anyone know how to refuse a sidequest.

[pearl condor]

Make quest journal

And refuse it

[pearl condor]

Eye of void, in end

[pearl condor]

3 paper 1 emerald

[restive oracle]

time to start with create... hate the cogwheels

[errant chasm]

is warlock actually better than sorcerer

[lofty bison]

does anyone know if its okay to swap out JEI with EMI?

[naive mantle]

what is nature's blessing?

[grim trout]

it's an enchant that allows the player to use a hoe (or Leggings in this case?) as bonemeal

[pearl condor]

Warlock superior

[naive mantle]

ohhh ic, i think it's not showing up in JEI search because i dont have the INT for enchanted book names

[inland escarp]

Best otherworld race/class?

[pearl condor]

Nah

[pearl condor]

!best

[dense oyster]

There is no best, it's based on preference. What's best is to try it out yourself as what you like may be something someone else dislikes.

[pearl condor]

Jei here is wonky with enchants and idk

[inland escarp]

!best

[dense oyster]

There is no best, it's based on preference. What's best is to try it out yourself as what you like may be something someone else dislikes.

[pearl condor]

Read it

[inland escarp]

nothin pops up

[pearl condor]

..

From what country you are

[inland escarp]

https://klipy.com/gifs/murica-merica-3

[pearl condor]

There is no best, it's based on preference. What's best is to try it out yourself as what you like may be something someone else dislikes.

[pearl condor]

I wonder what blocks bots for u

[inland escarp]

hmmmm yeah Im not sure

[dusk salmon]

huh

so
with reversal, you can just kill the Ferrerous Wroughtnaut instantly

no backstab required

[inland escarp]

How much of an increase does the Circle of the Moon druid subclass get at night?

[lunar halo]

anyone got any good ideas on farming mythic orbs? we havent got to the end yet, its our next step

[pearl condor]

End is place to farm em

[lunar halo]

ahh, enderman farm?

[pearl condor]

Mythic and ancient should be end locked

[pearl condor]

Yeah, but don't use spawners, so just go at main island ig

[inner meteor]

Someone literally posted earlier about getting mythic in the nether

[errant chasm]

what does warlock do again i don't wanna get out of bed just to check that-

[lunar halo]

we got a few mythic items from shcest already in the overworld, may have been my luck stat though

[pearl condor]

Yup, but no clue how so idc

[pearl condor]

Extra magic plus extra cdr

Plus the best cantrip

Eldritch blast

[errant chasm]

oh

i went for the 40% magic with chain lightning from sorcerer

[night roost]

I mean its actually just a magic missile though

[pearl condor]

Eldritch blast superior f u

[night roost]

well it becomes 3 magic missiles later on
so i guess thats nice
even tho idk if all of them can hit because of IFrames

[errant chasm]

i might use my orb on changing to warlock then maybe

since i don't particularly rely on chain lightning for early game anymore

i'll think about it tmr

[night roost]

i used my orb after like 30 minutes
and then i wanted to change again , but ye..... 1 orb only for everyone xDDDD

[pearl condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/224191655375273985/1036653421278810122/462e14e0fc.gif

[errant chasm]

i mean worst case scenario you can open to lan and cheat in a new orb

[night roost]

nah im not gonna cheat

[errant chasm]

[inner meteor]

i need to make a bounties meme when I get the chance

[night roost]

im a person that given the opportunity , respecs hundreds of times before finally finishing a game
same thing in Baldurs Gate/Divinity or literally every game you can respec
but being forced to stick to one playstyle helps me focus on min maxing that build
so its probably for the best i dont get another orb

[inner meteor]

nah I gotta one up this

just let me cook when I get the chance

[pearl condor]

You do you pookie

[night roost]

earlier i had 7 legendary inks for 7 arcane cloth

why tf does everyone use "pookie"
i literally dont know what that means

[pearl condor]

Something relating to shit

Hence poo in word

But it's like, idk, cute name 😂😂😂

[night roost]

well chatgpt says it means like "Darling , Baby , Honey" etc
so a cute nickname huh

[pearl condor]

This

[burnt jewel]

Chatgpt says that it's some old German term, that was popularized in 2024 by some tiktok person

[pearl condor]

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pookie

[night roost]

huh
from what i read , it comes from the scottish

im german , and i have no idea how that should be related to german

[burnt jewel]

Like I said, it's chatgpt, take that for what it is

Maybe hallucination

[mental stump]

Quick question is there a reason to play a non-spellcasting class?

[night roost]

RP purposes i gues

[pearl condor]

Yes, the reason being you enjoy melee

If you want min max, or care only about metas then no

[lime anchor]

Anybody use bisect hosting for this mod pack?

Tryna find out if it’s legit and smooth

[pearl condor]

@wooden badge does

[wooden badge]

So do you!

[pearl condor]

[wooden badge]

We finished the modpack. Didn't have any issues at all on my server. @lime anchor

[lime anchor]

Hi how much ram would you recommend for a sever with like 5 people ?

[naive mantle]

is there a way to prevent spells from hurting other players? we're on a FTB team but still do damage to each other

[wooden badge]

I would suggest starting with 8GB or so, but you can always start with 6GB and update as needed. I would suggest pregenning with the chunky mod before starting to help ensure smooth performance and no lag when exploring.

[wooden badge]

you have to use minecrafts vanilla team system

[lime anchor]

Would 12 be overkill? Money isn’t an issue or anything

[mental stump]

Fair nuff'

[wooden badge]

It may be a tad bit overkill but it won't hurt anything. It depends if you guys plan to spread out or play together, how much you do with create, etc.

[lime anchor]

Is uploading a single player world the same as pre generating ?

[wooden badge]

You can upload your single-player world and then still pregenerate it after.

[lime anchor]

Ok how do I pre gen ? Last question haha

[pearl condor]

!pregen

[dense oyster]

https://youtu.be/UkkIpZSUnr4

[wooden badge]

I guess that answers that! haha

[lime anchor]

You guys are awesome thanks so much

[pearl condor]

Use chunky, check cf for it's commands ig

[wooden badge]

You can always submit a ticket on our site if you need any direct assistance with the server. 🙂

[lime anchor]

Appreciate it

[neon meteor]

Idk y anyone in here doesn't have this issue but im using enchanting infuser with apotheosis and when I insert a armor or weapon its not showing anything im tryna get all the vanilla enchantments first then I can go further with apotheosis enchantments any fix?

[pearl condor]

Enchanting infuser?

From what mod

[pearl condor]

!modified

[dense oyster]

You are using a modified version of the modpack!

Adding, removing, or updating large amounts of mods without testing any of your changes is **not **a good idea, and it is very unlikely that anyone will want to debug your issue for you. Please test the changes you make in small groups, as opposed to doing all of the changes at once.

If you want further support for your issue, someone may respond to you in the channel for the modpack you based your changes off, but please only post once. You may also have better luck in #1061339968691257466.

[pearl condor]

This mod isn't in psck

Psck

Pack

[silver patrol]

is there no pickup void item

[pearl condor]

Backpack

[silver patrol]

not fun trying to mine and having 1000000 cobbles

ah right

but that requires like void + magnet

[pearl condor]

OK and?

[silver patrol]

and pickup

doom

[pearl condor]

No

Just magnet + void

[silver patrol]

minor inconvenience fr

ah

[pearl condor]

Magnet is upgrade to pickup

[neon meteor]

I made my own modpack im not using any other modpack

[long bison]

#fuzs-projects

[pearl condor]

Why you asking here then exactly?

Cuz yea, wrong chat 😅

[long bison]

this is a channel for the otherwold modpack, you should go to the channel i linked for it

[white wharf]

Help please i'm lost

[pearl condor]

Use 6 stones in nexus

3 from, chapters before 3 from chapter 5

[white wharf]

what's stone ?

[pearl condor]

Quest items you made

Ice fire thunder life death nature

@ bottom there's dragon quests, for ice fire thunder stones

[white wharf]

oh no i didn't finish it yet

[pearl condor]

Well

You have some work left

[restive oracle]

3 hours later

[silver patrol]

if someone already blasted the knight guy at elemental nexus, tf do you do lmao

wayfinder medallion doesn't work, since you can't... get far enough for it to regenerate

[pearl condor]

Summon him

[silver patrol]

using that enchanting table lookalike?

[pearl condor]

It's marium's boss that is summonable

[silver patrol]

old moon altar*

huh

guess i'll just summon his ass in the overworld

for funny

[pearl condor]

https://github.com/mariumbacchus/Soulslike-Weaponry/wiki/Bosses#the-fallen-icon

You pron need this

[silver patrol]

appr8 thanks

need draugr sword

old champion remains

[tall scroll]

How’s everyone progressing so far in the pack? I’ve not been able to play at all cause of the icky storms

[pearl condor]

Me and Jake finished the Pack, Panda did so too

[tall scroll]

Ooo Congratties

[tardy hare]

is there a way to make jei show craftable things from my inventory? i primarily use emi so not familiar with jei

[thorn jackal]

Hi everyone, I started an Otherworld modpack server with some friends of mine, but I was curious about some point ( maybe it is just us that are missing something), is it normal that every monsters are litteraly OS us, even with mid / end game armor ?

[strong needle]

does knowledge of the ages exist in the pack?

the enchant

[foggy dagger]

do devs know about the fuckass gun enchants polluting every single enchant pool

like come on man really

those two could've been something actually good

but no i get quick reload and posture breaker on EVERY SINGLE gear piece

[dusk salmon]

yes
iirc theyre working on fixing it next patch

[pearl condor]

What level are you, what armor you mean when you say mid / end? What enchants

[dusk salmon]

i just did

[pearl condor]

It does

[foggy dagger]

try floodgate spell

caps damage taken to 30% of hp

minimum 4 shot

[silver patrol]

hmm i should use that

jetstream been getting me killed

lmao

[inner meteor]

Got the outline done, just gotta get some in game images and format it together

[silver patrol]

10s of rocket boost in the nether does not go well

[strong needle]

best way to get it? we're doing enchanting at 40 eterna with weapon tomes

and we havent seen it ONCE

[dim karma]

is there a way I can make this pack run better because currently its using 90% of my memory with out any other things running?

[pearl condor]

Villager trade

[pearl condor]

!fps

[dense oyster]

https://wiki.lunapixel.gg/performance-guide

[silver patrol]

me using spectral hammer once and instantly going blind

i swear every modpack using legendary survival overhaul have this ridiculous problem

[dusk salmon]

it consumes thirst (for whatever reason)
iirc you can disable the thirst blur in the config

[pearl condor]

Mining consumes thirst

[silver patrol]

W config

[pearl condor]

And hammer works as mining just big aoe

[silver patrol]

coded as the player mining

[dusk salmon]

it also consumes hunger
but the hunger isnt affected

[silver patrol]

[inner meteor]

Maybe if you weren't breaking like 166k blocks in one move then you wouldn't go thirsty

[pearl condor]

Hunger is affected way slower here, tho idk, if that's the reason

[dusk salmon]

i dont think so?
it might be a bug because hunger isnt affected at all

[dim karma]

Thank you

[pearl condor]

I just know why thirst is affected

[dusk salmon]

idk which is the bug tho, the thirst instantly popping or the hunger not moving

[pearl condor]

Cuz when mining with my pick I also notice

Hunger not going, but thirst going down

My pick mines 5*3

[dusk salmon]

yeah
ngl i feel like thirst should go down as fast as hunger
it gets annoying after awhile, esp since it doesnt change anything except vision

[pearl condor]

Well

You need water more than food

[dusk salmon]

fair enough
still gets annoying

[pearl condor]

Sure does

But a lot of things ppl find annoying

is what I can say

[silver patrol]

i just feel like this legendary survival overhaul ahh mod can go and never return

and nothing changes about the modpack

[pearl condor]

Same can be said about minecells, valoria, minecolonies imo

[thorn jackal]

Currently level 9 full cultist armor ( I play as a warlock, but a Friend lf mine is playing a monk lvl 9 as well and is getting almost OS as well )

[pearl condor]

So you are in early game still

Armor is early too

[inner meteor]

literally any mod mechanics that are not the vanilla version (altered recipes and configs, Apoth nerf, etc.)

[pearl condor]

For warlock end game Is full set of forlorn harbringer

Also enchants matter

[rose ice]

Eh

[torn mauve]

Hey so guys I found a way to get a boat load of xp FAST. Okay so you guys know the knowledge of the ages enchantment right? Me and the boys got lucky and found one. We were messing around and so I decided to kill one a donkey from one of the pillager caravans that roam around our base. When I killed it with a sword that had the enchantment, I ended up going from 14 level to like 68!

As it turns out, loot that is stored in the donkey gets converted into xp as well, and those donkeys always have min 50 of any dye.

Virtual. Piñata.

We experimented and added several stacks of snowballs into the donkey's inventory since we were in the middle of winter, and my buddy equipped two xp rings. When he killed that donkey with the sword, he went from 28 to 104.

Idk if this is a bug or exploit, but hope it helps earn an ungodly amount of xp without making a farm! ✌️

[thorn jackal]

Oookay, we thought it was more liké mid game at least 😂

[pearl condor]

Get into enchanting trust me

[rose ice]

Fire

[pearl condor]

That's why kota is being fully removed

[thorn jackal]

Gonna try that soon then, ty

[rose ice]

Bela is pulling up the ladder

[torn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/l-killer-bean-gif-16629089601247837920

we run a server and prob gonna keep it on this version anyway

[inner meteor]

ehehehe
ohohoho

[silver patrol]

now level gate every boss and grinding gonna be a total slough frfr

[pearl condor]

Yk what that means?

[pearl condor]

#otherworld message

[torn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-nervous-sweating-concerned-monkas-gif-15154684

[pearl condor]

!outdated

[dense oyster]

You seem to be using an older version of the modpack! Updates often fix issues, and yours might already be fixed, so please try again with the latest version of the modpack to see if the issue persists or not.

[pearl condor]

No support for old versions

[torn mauve]

tru tru

If there's like a major update, we prob will, but for the time being nah

love the modpack

[obtuse karma]

can someone tell me why it wont mix? no heat required and the mixer has enough power/not stressed. It worked once when I first loaded in, tried restarting my game but it won't mix anymore.

[pearl condor]

There will be major update soon

[thorn jackal]

Quick question about the leveling : does putting points on a statistic give something except for the possibility of leveling up an avility ? Sometimes you need to put 2 or 3 more lvl on a stat to get a point, so does it give you something else ?

[pearl condor]

Just passives rn, skills

[thorn jackal]

Ookay

[pearl condor]

No per point bonuses like DnD has

[thorn jackal]

Ookay ty, that was the question, but didn't knew how to formulate it haha

[silver patrol]

oh wait theres yung better nether fortress?

that conflicts with l_ender

ignited berserkers cannot spawn at nether fortresses

[inner meteor]

pretty sure there is a mod to fix that

And it's in the pack

[dawn magnet]

Has anybody managed to get Essential Mod to work with Otherworld instead of E4MC? E4MC is terribly unreliable and I've never been able to get it to work as intended

[inner meteor]

!ea

[dense oyster]

⚠️ Essential Mod Not Supported

We strongly recommend against using Essential with our modpacks, and we add a warning screen during modpack startup containing the following message by default. A free world-sharing alternative is already built-in called Luna - click Share World in the game menu to use it.

Why we don't support Essential:

• Technical issues: We've received multiple user reports of problems when combining Essential with our modpacks, including reports of world corruption. While there is no conclusive evidence of Essential as the definite cause, we do not have the development or support capacity to resolve issues potentially caused by it.

• Security concerns: Essential's auto-updater introduces potential security risks that are outside of our control.

• Ethics: We object to Essential's inclusion of in-game currency and microtransactions in an otherwise free modding environment.

If you choose to use Essential anyway

Please understand that you do so at your own risk and will not be eligible for support from our team. To remove this warning, you can open your modpack instance folder, navigate to config/crash_assistant/problematic_mods_config.json, and under essential-container, change should_crash_on_startup from true to false.

[silver patrol]

haven't seen a single ignited berserker after going through like 7 fortresses

[inner meteor]

You've beat Ignis right

[silver patrol]

yes

might be a multiplayer related issue?

just gonna afk in ignis arena until the ignited revenants respawn

[torn mauve]

from what I've experimented with essential, you mayyy also have to remove Fancy Menus to get it working as well, though I don't know if there's a workaround or patch. But yeah like the app says use at ur down discretion

[silver patrol]

if hopefully they can actually respawn lmao\

[exotic wyvern]

is warlock level 15 bugged? i tested out in creative and the eldritch blast only shoots 2 magic missles and not 3

[silver patrol]

yeah nah, they dont respawn, one time until ignis is dead

[zinc cedar]

there is 0 reason to use essential

[zinc cedar]

!server selfhost instead

[dense oyster]

Free Method

To host a server on your own computer, read the selfhosting guide.
This guide goes over how to install, create, and launch a free Minecraft server on all operating systems (MacOS, Linux and Windows). The guide also guides you through installing Java and optimizing your server for better performance.

If you are installing one of our older modpacks, ignore the "README" file that is included in the serverpack files, as they have outdated information.

Paid Method

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go here and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

The following advice works for both the Free and Paid methods:

Transferring Your World

If you're playing Singleplayer and want to transfer your world to your server, simply go to your modpack files and navigate to the saves folder. Inside of this folder, you will see your world saves. Rename your desired world save to world. You can then transfer this folder to your server files. If your world was hosted via world sharing, this process has to be done by the person who would click "Share World".

Fixing Lag

To resolve lag issues, simply run the !tps command in #bots and follow the directions provided.

[torn mauve]

Yeah IK that now, but at the time we didn't know the free version existed and we were trying to avoid paying for our own

[strong needle]

what qualifies as extremely powerful? :xdd:

[silver patrol]

in any case, does anyone know if the elemental nexus is your own instance, or everyone on the server share the same... nexus lol

[torn mauve]

One of our buddies had their own server and are using that now

[silver patrol]

pyromancer book gives a clue

[dawn magnet]

There is for me. E4MC has never worked for me and Luna keeps crashing me out of single player when my friend tries to join. I've had zero issues with Essential

Stable latency, reliable joining method, quick friends list and notifications when they come online. Its been the only efficient way to play with my friends since I started using it

[zinc cedar]

it is extremely predatory and has caused many major world issues

selfhosting is extremely easy

and is far more stable

[dawn magnet]

Hey Im not one to judge opinions if you don't like it. Like I said though, I've never had any issues with it and neither has my friend group I play with. Each to their own

[zinc cedar]

its not an opinion though lol

this is just factual & easily proven

[dawn magnet]

That's cool but as I stated "I've had zero issues with it" so it will be my go to

[undone crag]

So exactly what is the purpose of the classes with out the class progression table?

[zinc cedar]

yes you will have zero issues until your world is corrupted or peoples inventories get wiped

and nobody will be able to help

[sand spruce]

Sooo
My friends and I are on a server

We all allied eachother

I can only see one of them on the map
the one who cant I can't also can't see me-

[zinc cedar]

risking that to get worse ping and worse server performance

when you can just run a file and get 0 ping at all times

and have full control over your server

[zinc cedar]

known issue, will probably be fixed next time the pack updates just from mods updating

you can also try just updating journeymap manually

[sand spruce]

oh okay thanks

[undone crag]

Im trying to make sure I understand that inspired by BG3 and being called Dungeons and Dragons is a description for copied class/racial descriptions and not much else

[dawn magnet]

2 years worth of worlds and not a single corrupted file. Im more than happy to stream us playing in Discord for 8 hours if you want. I don't mind showing the zero ping issues we have (homie is in America and I'm in New Zealand), zero latency spikes, sero problems etc

[zinc cedar]

i have personally seen countless ppl's worlds become unplayable due to the shitty microtransaction mod that sues anyone who they dont like

[sonic cave]

sorry if this is the wrong chat there is just so many im a little confused but where can i get help i wana play with firends on better mc but it says that essentials mod shouldn't be used how do i get him to join

[zinc cedar]

#otherworld message

[dawn magnet]

And I've personally been using the mod for 2 years without running into issues with a group of 3 others ☺️

[sonic cave]

thx

[delicate light]

can someone tell me why the minecolonies architect menu is beyond broken?
i tried removing the resoursepack but it doesnt fix it either so i readded it

[undone crag]

Like im not missing something am I? Barbarians don't get rage, druids don't have shape change, battle master artificer doesn't get an iron defender etc

I went into creative mode and couldn't find anything but gains from stat leveling

[cedar scroll]

Can we find dead dragons?

Like the corpse

For easy bones and skull

Or no?

[rose ice]

I haven't seen one

[midnight rose]

anyone understand why the textures/blocks look like that?

[rose ice]

Smaller sample pool

[rose ice]

https://tenor.com/view/hydrelated-hydrated-water-lannavo-tinnitus-gif-22888217

https://tenor.com/view/summer-water-spongebob-heatwave-hot-gif-12150719

https://tenor.com/view/red-s-skull-hydra-hail-hydrate-avoid-headache-gif-12265245

[midnight rose]

Thank you

[undone crag]

Am I in the wrong chat?

[rose ice]

No problemo

Possibly

[undone crag]

Is this not the otherworld:Dungeons and Dragons chat?

[rose ice]

Check the left side menu to see what channel you are in

[acoustic cedar]

guys, what necklace am i supposed to use, the death king didn't drop any necklace, and its not the conjuring necklace either

[rose ice]

Sorrow Amulet/necklace

Pendant

[acoustic cedar]

how do i get that?

[rose ice]

Dead King

[acoustic cedar]

again bruh

alr thanks

[rose ice]

Sorry, its the only answer there is

I can't give you a different answer

Unless you want me to lie to you

I'll do that for free

[undone crag]

Im in the right place

[rose ice]

Welcome

[undone crag]

Is there a spoiler issue with my question?

[rose ice]

Probably not. If it went unanswered, I assume nobody who read it knew the answer

[undone crag]

I just want to know if classes and races have actual D&D progression or if its all just flavor text and doesn't matter

[rose ice]

mmmmmm

I would say its 80% flavor and lore

[undone crag]

I went into creative and I couldn't find anything and class levels if those even exist

[rose ice]

Yeah there isn't class specific leveling or split leveling

Can't remember the exact name for that

[undone crag]

No barbarian rage , no stunning blow or open hand techniques from monk

[rose ice]

Correct. A lot of things are retrofitted from existing mods to fit within the theme

But there hasn't been like a full on recreation of DnD mechanics into MC

[green veldt]

Do you get the stuff to make the map for the Abyss from a cartographer?

[rose ice]

No

[acoustic cedar]

yea it's okay but does it drop from the dead king or i find it in his tome, he didn't drop it when i beated him

[errant chasm]

it drops from him

[rose ice]

Drops from him

[steady sedge]

any one else having server issues?

[rose ice]

Check out the JEI loot page for it

[strong needle]

is knowledge of the ages max 1?

[rose ice]

3?

I think

[strong needle]

i cant combine them

normally it is 3

[errant chasm]

if you didn't get it you can probably wayward compass to fight him again

[strong needle]

but maybe its nerfed in the pack?

[errant chasm]

[rose ice]

It was supposed to be removed from the pack actually

[acoustic cedar]

is it supposed to be guaranteed?

[rose ice]

So what you got now is the best you will get until an upcoming patch removes it

[rose ice]

I believe so. I don't have the pack open right now so I suggest looking at the JEI loot page for it

[acoustic cedar]

where is that JEI loot page?

[strong needle]

wait so next update knowledge gets removed?

bruh lvling will be so cancer then

[rose ice]

Its not that bad

Unless you speed along, I generally find myself hitting the level cap in each chapter long before the end of it and banking those levels

Next chapter I am usually 4+ levels up

[strong needle]

nono i meant vanilla lvl

to enchant and stuff

[rose ice]

Its fine

Get yourself the two exp rings

And then when you get into apot you can get exp boosting

Going into rare or higher apot affixing does take some work

Don't expect to get into Epic+ without serious grinding or a mob farm

But the modpack doesn't expect that of you either

[strong needle]

why does it say life mending is only for artificers

as well

visual?

[rose ice]

That is weird

[undone crag]

Got it, thank you. I suppose I was expecting CTE2 levels of class mechanics

[rose ice]

It has been discussed as a future change but not in the current versions

[undone crag]

I gave the pack the old college try but I thought maybe I was missing aomething

[strong needle]

cte2 classes are peak design

[rose ice]

Sorry not something currently in the pack, not sure if it will be that way in the future

[dusk salmon]

...what

[rose ice]

Converting DnD mechanics to MC would be a substantial mod

[dusk salmon]

tf we supposed to do then?
have our weapons and armor break constantly??

[undone crag]

Like I wasnt expecting to feel like I was missing out compared to classes the have better integration with irons spells

[rose ice]

IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AS A FUTURE CHANGE BUT NOT IN THE CURRENT VERSION

😛

[dusk salmon]

yes
i know
im asking for the future;

the hell we supposed to do

[rose ice]

Don't take this as gospel

There is thought to change weapons/armour to be more in line with DnD and remove durability

[inner meteor]

💀

[rose ice]

And then for other non-essential stuff, an NPC that will bypass the xp enchanting stuff to repair items

[undone crag]

I think mending enchant shouldn't be exclusive but mayhaps Artificers being able to repair and add a + modifier to tools and gear?

[rose ice]

I don't have any insider knowledge though so who knows

[sleek peak]

Can we rebalance iron's

what is this dawg

90 blocks range tp 1.8 cooldown

[undone crag]

A 5th level spell

[rose ice]

Don't touch my teleport

[sleek peak]

legendary ink is NOT that hard to get

😭

[inner meteor]

Bro hasn't seen anything yet

[rose ice]

tf its not

[inner meteor]

Also EXACTLY

[rose ice]

I get shit rolls on 50/50 though

[sleek peak]

u loot for ink?

dawg..

[undone crag]

If you think thats crazy you should what wizards have access to in 5th lvl spells

[inner meteor]

0.5 times infinity is still infinity

[rose ice]

I don't think I have looted a single legendary ink yet

[exotic wyvern]

is warlock level 15 bugged? i tested out in creative and the eldritch blast only shoots 2 magic missles and not 3

[rose ice]

Yes

[exotic wyvern]

sadgers is there a way to config fix it :(

[rose ice]

Beyond my knowledge

Probably is

[strong needle]

bro my fps are DYING inside leviathan structure

its probbably bcs of the waterfall particles

[undone crag]

Dimensional door is a 4th lvl spell if that gives you any ideas

[exotic wyvern]

same

[sleek peak]

yall know if theres a config file which allows u to rebalance/disable spells?

[sleek peak]

im doing a PVP allowed server and this cannot see the light

that among other spells

[undone crag]

Skill issue dayo

[rose ice]

Astral Sense + Magic Arrow + Invisibility

[inner meteor]

imo

[rose ice]

ito

[sleek peak]

😭

[undone crag]

If you cant defend yourself against a target that can teleport to you from 90 blocks away what can you defend yourself from

[sleek peak]

iron's as always the doom of balancing

[rose ice]

It takes a lot of work to do

For sure

[undone crag]

Next you'll ask to rebalance sharpshooter with bows who can hit a target from 120 blocks smh

[inner meteor]

Ars Nouveau is broken, Iron's is broken, what's next???

[inner meteor]

light work

[rose ice]

ElectroBob's Wizardry

[inner meteor]

real

[warm ginkgo]

"erm magic bad!!! remove it!!!"

[undone crag]

I mean the pack already just feels like reskinned medieval Minecraft

[warm ginkgo]

all i know is every modpack i play its always full of people asking that magic either be nerfed to the ground or removed entirley

[strong needle]

but like

magic is so much worse than melee

[undone crag]

I wish there was a way to implement Ars with out implementing Ars spells cause the infrastructure aspect of Ars could totally fit the them

Little familiars Ars Creo contraptions

Rituals

[strong needle]

i only use Ars for farms

[undone crag]

I use ars cause I hate carrying tools in my hotbar

[warm ginkgo]

very unture but magic is supposed to be stronger

[strong needle]

drygmy farms/magic spawner/scrying rituals

[warm ginkgo]

its stronger in dnd

why would some dude with a sword be stronger then the magical wizard who throws fireballs and lightning bolts

[undone crag]

Idk what magic you play but being able to one shot bosses from the safest distance with a click doesn't sound very competitive for melee

[strong needle]

i mean most melee builds ure basically unkillable

ofc u can cheese the bosses with magic but thats not fun

[warm ginkgo]

yea melee classes get surviability

mages get big dmg and utility

but are squishy

[undone crag]

The same can be applied to mage pajamas

[strong needle]

thats like bowing bosses from where they dont aggro at u

for 20 mins

(rlcraft dragons xdd)

[sleek peak]

i don't want to remove it, im playing sorcerer myself gng

[frosty mountain]

guys How do you find the Excucis to batle the nightheaven?

[sleek peak]

i just dont want everyone in my server to be forced into being mages

[warm ginkgo]

doppleganger drops it

[warm ginkgo]

melee is 100% viaable

either go faster attacks or bigger dmg

your prefrence

the problem is people are comparing minmaxed mages to non-minmaxed melee

[strong needle]

max attack speed build with this

[warm ginkgo]

and lifesteal

[warm ginkgo]

yea in thoery its the strongest build

attackspeed+lifesteal

[strong needle]

the good thing is that apotheosis is omega nerfed here

which i love

[warm ginkgo]

lmao?

[strong needle]

apotheosis ruins so many good modpacks

[sleek peak]

i dont want to nerf EVERYTHING of iron's

[warm ginkgo]

wheres the nerf?

[frosty mountain]

the dopplganger is in the cathedral to?

[strong needle]

i mean bro

[warm ginkgo]

no

follow the quests

[frosty mountain]

where can Ifind him?

[warm ginkgo]

to get the doppleganger

[frosty mountain]

I did

[warm ginkgo]

make the mirror

[sleek peak]

but u cant tell met a 90 blocks range insta tp with 1.8 seconds cd while im not even using ender's armor is fair

[warm ginkgo]

use the mirror

[strong needle]

this gives 13.5 on perfect

on cisco for example

it gives i believe 50%

[warm ginkgo]

whats unfair about it

its utility

mages have masive utility always have

its one of the main seling point of a mage

[sleek peak]

all this is PVP talking

[strong needle]

ye for pvp thats unplayable

if someone has infinite ender pearls

[sleek peak]

im trying to rebalance it for PVP

[strong needle]

for pvp would probbably need to make the cd like 1 min

[sleek peak]

im confused, doing some testing, hearstop still can be used

is it cuz i have /op?

[warm ginkgo]

noi have it in a server

anyhow if u wanna talk about unbalanced pvp

have fun lmao

any minmaxed character of any build is gonna be immorta;

lets just go over a few spells tho

evaison

absyal shroud

heartstop

[rose ice]

Isn't evasion down to max 2 dodges

[warm ginkgo]

i forgot the name for the one in evocation limit

[frosty mountain]

it says Craft the Obsidian Mirror, then place gaze into it in a place where the element converge. What place ?

[sleek peak]

this is why im nerfing it

[rose ice]

Maybe 3

[sleek peak]

well

disabling it straight up

[rose ice]

Elemental Nexus

[warm ginkgo]

no. even with out my meta maxed ender armor i could prob hit 6

[sleek peak]

ive played a decently balanced server with iron's and its very fun

i wanna reach such point here

[warm ginkgo]

if i equip my super cheese ender armor and my 2 ancient final light wands

with charged spell at lvl like 13 or smth

i can hit like 900 dodges

[rose ice]

Your "meta maxed" armour probably takes advantage of current issues that are being patched out

[undone crag]

Idk man I went into creative and faught possessed paladin with a max level monk with netherite gloves and max strength and dex

Didn't put a dent in it

[warm ginkgo]

... their removing the +4 levels to spells?

on a staff?

[rose ice]

Yes

[warm ginkgo]

bruh

WHY

[rose ice]

Was only supposed to get like +1

At best

[warm ginkgo]

i knew it was gonna happen they are nerfing mages to the ground

[rose ice]

+2 maybe

[undone crag]

Wait when do you get that staff?

[warm ginkgo]

any staff with elemental spell power can get it

[rose ice]

lol ya'll are talking about how unbalanced things are, of course there is going to be nerfs

[warm ginkgo]

for that element

[rose ice]

KotA is supposed to be removed too

[undone crag]

+4 is nothing why nerf

[warm ginkgo]

u just gotta get it to ANCIENT gear

[rose ice]

I have said time and time again

[warm ginkgo]

it happens in every pack. melee lovers cry and cry about mages till its nerfed to nothing

[rose ice]

Players are not expected to get even a full set of Mythic in regular playthroughs

[undone crag]

Right Apothic can get you +4 anything

[warm ginkgo]

then why are you nerfing ancient gear?

[rose ice]

You can't just modify one tier of gear

[undone crag]

Wait thats ridiculous so completion players just twiddle there thumbs?

[rose ice]

Adjusting the values does it across the board

[rose ice]

Completion players?

[warm ginkgo]

"hmm we dont think you should get mythic gear so it dossent matter if we super nerf it to the ground
"

[undone crag]

Players that like to make the vault of things, where we display armor stands and gear

[rose ice]

jfc again

[warm ginkgo]

the +spell level dossent even show up under mythic level does it?

[rose ice]

They are not nerfing Mythic or Ancient armour, everything is being brought down

Because you are not supposed to be that OP

Be glad Ancient is still in the pack, the tiers above it were removed and honestly it should be too

[warm ginkgo]

mf im in a full set of anchent gear with everything spesficed on 1 element

yes i should be

[rose ice]

If you want this to be a power trip pack where you become the harbinger of the apocolypse, modify it yourself

[warm ginkgo]

its based on dnd.

[rose ice]

But it needs to be leveled out

[warm ginkgo]

lvl 20 dnd characters are basicly demi gods

[undone crag]

*gods

[rose ice]

Its DnD themed, not a 1:1 or 1:10 conversion

[undone crag]

Demi is 5th level characters and above after extra strike and class bonus shenanigans

[rose ice]

And its not supposed to be super easy

[warm ginkgo]

let me guess only mage apothic affixes are getting nerfed tho

[undone crag]

20th levels and you can literally grant wishes

[warm ginkgo]

lvl 17 not even full 20

[rose ice]

Isn't 5th level supposed to be City Hero level

Folk Hero or whatever its called

[warm ginkgo]

by lvl 4 i can hit 20 in whatever stat i chose

[undone crag]

5th level is when Peter Parker takes his glasses off and realizes he doesn't need them

[warm ginkgo]

and im pretty sure 20 in a stat is demigod teir

[rose ice]

20 in a stat means nothing in DnD

[warm ginkgo]

in terms of power scaling

[rose ice]

Big *

[undone crag]

20 in a stat does mean nothing

You can be lvl 1 with 18 strength

[warm ginkgo]

but compare a lvl 5 pc to a commoner

[undone crag]

Doesn't make you a demi god just makes you strong

[warm ginkgo]

how many commoners would you need to take on a lvl 5 player

[rose ice]

One bartender

[undone crag]

Depends on the commoner and the DM

[undone crag]

You think village villains have to be more then just smart commoners?

[warm ginkgo]

im not talking about normal enemys

who the player should be fighting

im taking about the avrage human in dnd

with 4 hitpoints

[undone crag]

Yea a commoner has 10 across the board

[ornate hound]

hey i have a question, what would be the best early game xp grinder for enchantments and stuff?

[rose ice]

A spawner you find with pillagers tbh

Like in their encampments with the tower

Grab some sugar and clocks

[ornate hound]

ok thank you il get to work

[rose ice]

Plenty of coinage that way too

[undone crag]

I think the most important adjustment should be giving battle master artificer the same ability the conjuration wizard has

Since we don't care about balancing close to the book

[ornate hound]

ok could you send me a screen shot of what they look like, i am still new to the pack

[rose ice]

If i have one

Not in the pack tonight

[warm ginkgo]

sorry artificer is a magic class. not allowed to have buffs for them

[ornate hound]

ok

[rose ice]

Luka you are sounding salty

[warm ginkgo]

people compare minmaxed mages to lvl 10 warriors and deicde magic is to strong and needs massive nerfs 💀 why would i be happy

[undone crag]

It makes no sense the conjuration wizard gets to summon a golem when the conjuration wizard by far the saddest of schools in 5e

[rose ice]

Sorry I do not

[ornate hound]

damn

[undone crag]

Im salty and I didnt even get to lvl 2 on the server I play

[rose ice]

You have already made multiple points on how end game Mages are insanely strong

[warm ginkgo]

endgame ANYTHING is insanley strong

[ornate hound]

i think my base is near one il send a screen shot to check if that is it

[warm ginkgo]

but only mages get nerfed

[rose ice]

For now?

[undone crag]

And someone also pointed out the end game melee builds are practically unkillable themselves

[inner meteor]

tell me about it

[rose ice]

And that will probably be adjusted too

[warm ginkgo]

i alr told you its not about balance its about people who hate magic type mods so they spam cry for it to be removed till its done

[rose ice]

Mages will probably be adjusted first because they were brought up first

And then melee

[warm ginkgo]

kinda like how the crazy lib group in austrila cried and cried till credit card companys started banning video games

[rose ice]

I do want to see this uber melee build though

[inner meteor]

Who would win:
• A sword forged with the essence of hell
• "viOlEnT sToNe sWoRd oF sUrGiCaL pReCiSiOn"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747590468937842799/747592026979041311/bruhnication.gif

[rose ice]

A lot of the time they have magic under the hood

[warm ginkgo]

you counting apoth as magic? 💀

[inner meteor]

Apoth is like all of the above

[rose ice]

Do I count the magical gems that give insane power magic?

Magical power gems?

[warm ginkgo]

lmao got it. so the thing that buffs both is only counted agaisnt mages

[rose ice]

omfg

[warm ginkgo]

it was always an unfair judgement

[rose ice]

I have said multiple times by now that that melee is probably going to be adjusted too

[warm ginkgo]

"Mabey" adjusted at some point possibly perhaps in a future update

[undone crag]

Just add hard-core deaths and pMMOs to mix too

[rose ice]

I'm not a dev, I can't give absolute answers

Wtf do you want me to say

[inner meteor]

not da PMMO

[rose ice]

Even the things I have said about magic being nerfed is conjecture and assumptions

[undone crag]

You rustling the Jimmies of wizards Reko this is what happens

[warm ginkgo]

ijust think its absurd your comparing a minmaxed high level mage in full ancient gear with perfect gems to a warrior in nonenchanted gear with no apoth affixes or gems and claiming the 2 classes are unfair

[undone crag]

Bunch of long beards and pointy hats throwing there arms up and going hmmph in unison

[ornate hound]

so um what do i do if i spot a missionary

[rose ice]

I'm a Warlock main and have been through the entire playtesting cycle portion I was a part of, I am one of the biggest proponents of nerfing magic

[warm ginkgo]

kill it or run

[inner meteor]

except you literally don't need a perfect staff to get ungodly powerful
Just a good affix roll is all you need

[ornate hound]

im lvl 3 and he is like 8

[warm ginkgo]

i did say or run

[rose ice]

Don't screw with Missionaries early on

[warm ginkgo]

running is prob the best choice

[rose ice]

Unless you can outrange them and their teleporting

[ornate hound]

hes next to my house and right next to my body

[warm ginkgo]

cooked 😔

[rose ice]

Good thing both of those don't despawn if you run

[warm ginkgo]

just lead im away from the house/corpse

then die when ur far away

[ornate hound]

ok gotcha

[warm ginkgo]

ignore the empty corpse

collect ur real one

[ornate hound]

holy crap i killed it\

[undone crag]

I hate to say it but I cant see artificer existing being beneficial

[rose ice]

Nice work. What class are you

[ornate hound]

fighter

[rose ice]

Got it, nerf fighter

[ornate hound]

damn

[undone crag]

Its either they get to do all the apothic stuff exclusively or everyone gets it

[rose ice]

And Bard too for being fighteresque

[ornate hound]

wait there was bard

[inner meteor]

Got it, nerf everything

[rose ice]

Nerf everything, double nerf mages

[undone crag]

Bard for reasons unknown

[rose ice]

Actually lets just remove mage spell casting to be safe

[warm ginkgo]

nah only mages get nerfs. warriors get buffed

[undone crag]

No no no Luka

[inner meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-64-sm64-super-mario-goku-gif-2924386200580697487

[undone crag]

Befair

[rose ice]

Nobody likes it when you cry over spilled arcane essence

[warm ginkgo]

apothc affixes is being included in a mages power scaling for balances but not in a warrior's 💀 dont tell me about fair

[undone crag]

They said EVERYTHING fun is getting nerfed not just mages we shan't die on this hill

[rose ice]

smdh

[inner meteor]

got it, remove Apotheosis

[warm ginkgo]

no. he said mages ARE getting nerfed and melee might be in a later update

[rose ice]

Ya'll know there is like 1000 other modpacks out there that fulfill the power trip fantasy, right?

[warm ginkgo]

would be more fair

but instead only mage based apoths get nerfed

[rose ice]

Pretty sure Muon said next update that Luka specifically is going to be nerfed

No matter what class is used

[warm ginkgo]

wouldnt be shocked

im to strong for them

[rose ice]

Enforced permadeath sys32 wipe

[warm ginkgo]

they gotta oppress me

[ornate hound]

@rose ice

[inner meteor]

meat

[rose ice]

Nah you are looking for an encampment with tents, sometimes archery ranges, and a tower in the middle

[warm ginkgo]

oh the arch evoker fort?

[rose ice]

Loot has a lot of emeralds and onions

[ornate hound]

but isnt that a spawner right there?

[rose ice]

Not the fort, just an encampment

[rose ice]

Might be? I can't remember if those have them

[warm ginkgo]

no thats a cage

it can caputre small animals

[ornate hound]

damn

[rose ice]

Actually I think there are a couple pillager vindicator spawners buried in the camp

[ornate hound]

ok

[rose ice]

idk I have to go to bed, ya'll have fun.

As always, if you have constructive ideas please leave the suggestions here or in the suggestions channel so they can be taken into consideration

[warm ginkgo]

aanyhow for melee just go luck+dex+str+con as your stats

and foicus on attack speed

there you go

and life steal

any boss cries

with 0 chance

at killing you

[undone crag]

OK but in a pack advertised as inspired by BG3 and D&D (which i personally think is a lie) , a linear quest, pointless class restrictions and weird integrations. The pack already gives a strong sense of "you chose wrong" picking anything that doesn't have cantrips or spells and you think the problem lies in stats? Or stat acquisition at that?

[warm ginkgo]

not even counting that goofy ahh cheesy dagger that has a 0.5% chance to oneshot anything

[icy beacon]

What mod makes you crouch to pick up items? can you remove that feature in config?

[undone crag]

Im actually genuinely curious as to how the dev or anyone for that matter used this pack as a VTT

[inner meteor]

check da pins

[undone crag]

I'm also curious as to what else is there to this pack progressing other then taking the path to becoming a walking force of nature?

Like why would I avoid min maxing in this pack that has nothing else to offer for players who would want to?

[warm ginkgo]

pick smth for me. 2handed with speed. or 1 big weapon.

[undone crag]

2hd with speed

Im a sucker for characters swinging feck off swords with crazy spds

Also I feel like that was my go to in CTE2

[warm ginkgo]

ok uh you misunderstood cuz i said it wrong

i ment 2 sword

dual weilder focused on speed

or 1 big weapon

so ill assume big weapon

[undone crag]

Ah I love the pawnching animations so id suggest these hands with speed

[warm ginkgo]

so monk? i was gonna run fighter cuz it had no spell ability but i could go monk

[undone crag]

Enough strength levels to increase reach

I went monk and honestly of the 3 choices it feels like way of the shadows gets the greatest benefit

[warm ginkgo]

only at night

but yea big dmg

[undone crag]

Way of 4 elements giving access to elemental spells and open hand just being vague. Shadow is very straight forward

[warm ginkgo]

what. open hand is just a straight dmg buff

its just less then shadow

but its all the time

[undone crag]

Oh sorry I forgot we already disclosed that its all flavor

I meant vague cause I forgot you don't actually get to rag doll your enemies with open hand techniques or stunning blow

[regal stream]

hi, this is a super fun modpack, but im genuinely curious, why are spellcasters so much stronger than like every other class (mainly melee). I get that it's kinda that way in DND but me and my friends are about to quit the pack because my spellcaster friend is so much stronger than all of us that he just 1v1s everything. This is such a good modpack so like, are we missing something?

[undone crag]

I meant the classes them selves

[warm ginkgo]

im alr hitting 105 dps with monk and netherite teir gear

no spells

tho monk can use support spells

no enchantments

no apoth

[regal stream]

a) yeah but thats farther into the modpack and b) that still is only one class

[undone crag]

They might as well have named Monk Punchguy and the archetypes
The Avatar
Daytime fister
And
Night man

[warm ginkgo]

i could easily do exactly the same with fighter or barb

[regal stream]

the classes dont seem to be balanced unless we are missing something. its just super dissapointing

yeah but isnt that endgame?

[warm ginkgo]

netherite?

no thats closer to midgame at best

[regal stream]

like we're still in the opening stages but my friend already took down a tier 3 dragon cause of spells, neither I nor my other melee friend can even get close to doing that

like 105 dps with fists only matters if you can get close to them

[warm ginkgo]

tell ur friend to cast root

so you can get close

[regal stream]

ok

if we continue playing then we can try that. but honestly we are already kinda losing motivation and hope in it, I was mainly asking to see if we were missing anything critical to the early game mechanics, but if the classes just arent balanced then it probably just isnt our playstyle

[undone crag]

I mean have you considered increasing your defenses so you can approach a dragon? Otherwise it sounds like you would be feeling the same if someone had an enchanted crossbow

[regal stream]

yeah ive been going into defense a good bit

well crossbolts are limited by arrows and stuff, spellcasters get infinite magic missile I think

[undone crag]

Cooldowns and mana probably

[regal stream]

im like level 3 in defense cause this is still one of our first days playing

[regal stream]

you can cast for no mana, cooldown is slight

[undone crag]

Thats a cantrip fo sho

[regal stream]

yeah

[undone crag]

Alternatively, certain races also get access to cantrips like that

[regal stream]

that sounds right

[undone crag]

Aside from classes

[regal stream]

hmm, I think I chose like full melee so I didnt get any chance at that

[undone crag]

And if this were more then D&D inspired that would be a-ok

[strong needle]

are there like hidden questlines or smth

bcs i see maledictus on the front page of this questline

but he wasnt in it

[undone crag]

You expecting to fight cataclysm bosses in the first chapter O.o

[strong needle]

its 2nd to last chapter

[regal stream]

the can trips? yeah they seem really busted to me but im not sure cause obv im still new

[undone crag]

Cantrips are the weakest but most reliable spells in D&D

But no im referring to going full melee

Playing 5e or BG3 youre never making a poor decision choosing martial classes

Just have to get over the fact that youre the martial class

Which means ppl expect you to hit things, get hit ,and knock on doors

[regal stream]

ah

[undone crag]

Here it just means your mage companions reach the enemy before you swing

[regal stream]

admittedly my friends play dnd, i dont really play it

[warm ginkgo]

there is an extra questtab called extra bosses thats not finished yet

you can see it in creative mode in single player

[regal stream]

yeah and to me, I was kinda hoping to have the opportunity for more action, but im not really able to do much lol

[strong needle]

any way to see it on a server?

[undone crag]

What class did you pick?

[warm ginkgo]

no they dont even give rewards

its not implmented

[strong needle]

oh

aight thx

i wish there was some kind of transmog in this pack

[warm ginkgo]

fr

LOVE transmog

im hitting 30 dmg per punch with monk fists

and at a fast speed

tbh im not sure what eles to add im not fluent in warrior :p

havent used spells but did drink potions

tho support spells are prob one of a monks biggest Ws

if i were a fighter using swords the dmg would prob be much bigger cuz of sharpness and monk gloves are only half a swords dmg

[rose ice]

Shouldn't call it a lie just because it doesn't meet your desired level of influence and modification