#fear-nightfall

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valid zenith
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aaaand come back with a fresh log

mental hound
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Done. I have to kill Minecraft when it happens anyways

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I am currently in a wall....

velvet snowBOT
mental hound
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Yes.

valid zenith
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Why is Optifine in here-

mental hound
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Unless the dev says otherwise, don't remove mods.

wispy acorn
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AL_ySideEyeHuh whoopsies

mental hound
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I don't have Optifine so not sure

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An additional note, this same thing was happening to me in the legacy pack, v14 was the last I played

ashen cape
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i have also had it freeze up like that several times

high herald
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does the polaroid do anything other than just give you an image of smiledog and give you wither

upper relic
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what day does the damned start spawning?

mental hound
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10

upper relic
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thanks

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how do i check my days?

mental hound
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F3 shows it

broken sonnet
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BisecHosting is trash. What are some good server hosts?

upper relic
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aternos

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whats the one mob that smiles and says i want to hug you

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what day does smile dog spawn?

mental hound
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!aternos

mossy cometBOT
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We don't support Aternos nor can we assist you with using it for reasons listed below;

  1. You are unable to add / edit the mods to implement a fix that can be game changing at times.
  2. We are unable to control the updates of our packs on Aternos, nor ever will.
  3. The hosting is not strong enough to host our packs on there without it crashing every so often.
  4. We have other free methods that work much better than Aternos does. Run the !ws command and the !server command in #bots for more information on how to host a server for free.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1118743462330777611/1244506337107382353/servidores_de_aternos.mp4

lyric garden
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how do we work the voice chat in game

broken sonnet
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!apex

lyric garden
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eveeryone has the mute boxes around but no one can talk

bleak wharf
broken sonnet
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How do I create a team?

lyric garden
bleak wharf
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NO idea, ive never messed with server stuff

wispy acorn
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I look at the configs through the mod list in the folder itself

broken sonnet
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How do I make a team

bleak wharf
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...Top left in your inventory

mental hound
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I too keep mixing up Discord with Google'

broken sonnet
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tysm

bleak wharf
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God I need an xp farm

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Literally using chickens atm >_>

mental hound
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Why do you need so many levels

bleak wharf
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enchants

mental hound
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Sounds like your gear needs a reset'

bleak wharf
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Prob

valid zenith
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Is there more to this place?

bleak wharf
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Very top that you have to nerd pole up to

mental hound
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Is that the dark tower?

bleak wharf
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but i kinda stopped goin there after awhile

valid zenith
bleak wharf
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Tehres really not alot on the very top of the tower

wispy acorn
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There’s some ore in the very top but that’s it

mental hound
lyric garden
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is it possible to use ingame voicechat on LAN

mental hound
lyric garden
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just by the built in hosting

mental hound
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Did you follow the pinned instructions

lyric garden
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yea my port is the same for bothj

ashen cape
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Hmmm
I afk'd the night in a tower, after fully lighting up my island, at least as far as i can see
Seems the damned may not be the only thing ignoring light levels

bleak wharf
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could they of swam in?

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Cuz i havnt had anything spawn other than damned in my light

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even then I think the damned just spawn in the sky and fall down

ashen cape
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More likely i missed a spot... but with how far light spawn proofs in newer MC, i doubt it

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or modded mobs use the old spawn mechanics of below 7, instead of 0

valid zenith
wispy acorn
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Has anyone seen any zenomorphs or is that a day level system as well

mental hound
valid zenith
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AH, THIS SPAWNED NEARBY

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When in Rome.

ashen cape
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i found the zenomorph lair thing with eggs, but no mobs

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Box of Horrors seems more inconsistent with spawning than others

valid zenith
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You know, she should really make some better pathing than just torchlight and campfires

wispy acorn
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I keep finding structures for the box of horror, but never the mobs

ashen cape
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Oh, thats a nice find. I'm pretty sure Tarot can be found there

valid zenith
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picks up cleaver Zombies are really good for flesh though.

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Unfortunately bag is too full and no upgrade yet

mild depot
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Hello, I saw some messages about legacy and, checking the mods, it seems more scary than the current build. I played about 5 hours of current version and the only scary stuff its the music (so loud) and that my sanity went to low and started seeing all the more black (i cant see anything with the hysteria shader) and the monsters that only insane players can see. I was under the impresion that some monsters and the like would appear, but so far nothing spawns in the day and in the nights it's so dark and the sanity goes down too fast I was thinking "well, maybe the monsters come to you" (like a horde system) but nothing. Im in chapter II if thats something important. So far only a message in chat that said "something is hunting you" or so but i went out and nothing. Also I kinda hate the ashen resource pack cause I keep confusing the axe with the hoe and the pickaxe. Sorry for the rant, just want some clarity hahaha

valid zenith
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is there anything good for marking your location and making easy to walk/follow paths that aren't just torches, campfires and what have you? Or not really?

lyric garden
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so does anyone know how to fix voice chat on local server hosting

valid zenith
wispy acorn
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The newer version does seem more tame in the scariness levels

valid zenith
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or you don't really have any good spots for mobs to spawn

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Also there's meant to be a monster that spawns when you feel something is chasing you

ashen cape
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Well... there are map markers once you gat a map atlas

valid zenith
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This piece of shit?

wispy acorn
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If box of horrors was more active, that may be another story. But it just seems like normal Minecraft right now

ashen cape
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yeah
i dislike having to fill it with maps so i added xaeros

mild depot
valid zenith
valid zenith
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If you want to find monsters to hunt down you might want to just do bamboo "walls" and make your place safe against normal spawns and the like

ashen cape
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you can also change the map atlas confg to not need maps, but personally i find that at that point you may as well use a map mod you prefer

valid zenith
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Also there was a different Atlas mod somewhere

ashen cape
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Antique atlas

valid zenith
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which was way better than this

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Yeah, that

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Would anyone notice if she changed Atlas with Antique Atlas

mild depot
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I installed this to "scare" me, thinking, for example, in the cave dweller in the begining of a game where you have nothing but need to get in a cave to get iron, so far the cave dweller is shy

valid zenith
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Unfortunately Antique Atlas isn't 1.20.1 ready

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Wait no, that's just CurseForge

bleak wharf
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Man

mild depot
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Went away from another scary modpack that spawned me siren head in the first night and just killed me over and over inside my house till dawn, this modpack seemed more fun and scary in a fair way

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Is legacy version better?

bleak wharf
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Uh

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Ull run into the same problem with siren head

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Lmao

mental hound
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Change the config from requiring maps to paper. Its more fair and more in-line with legacy, which had a custom recipe for cheaper maps

ashen cape
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yeah, each new "page" of the atlas requiring its own compass felt way to expensive imo

mild depot
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Ill keep playing to see if I scare more than with the music and the fake steps and creeper sounds haha. I really expected herobrine to come say hello

wispy acorn
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They removed herobrine

lyric garden
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for my voice chat promblem we have done some troubleshooting and only the host dosent have a red plug in the bottom left of their screen does anyone know how to fix this?

mild depot
mental hound
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Scary is an objective term

wispy acorn
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Well in 1.17.5 they removed all SCPs. Then 1.18.0 siren head was removed.

wispy acorn
ashen cape
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Subjective term

wispy acorn
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The new version is still Beta though

mental hound
valid zenith
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Wish Modrinth had comments so you could see how people thought of a mod

mild depot
ashen cape
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Well you would mostly see "when wil you port to x version pls" a thousand times

valid zenith
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And you know, if Antique Atlas had...

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the overlay feature baked in

swift pine
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is it possible to make distant horizons work with the modpack since when i try to launch it it just crashes

last hollow
valid zenith
last hollow
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Why it isn't working

ashen cape
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Smithing table, not anvil

last hollow
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bruh

ashen cape
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ah wait... maybe its the witherite anvil? i forget how cataclysm does it

valid zenith
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Okay, hold on

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Can you display us the recipe

ashen cape
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Just press U on the horn, should so you

last hollow
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you're right, it is Smithing table

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I always mistake these two stations

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all good, thank you. I'm clueless sometimes

ashen cape
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Gonna miss not having that powerful Cataclysm stuff in the new version... though it doesn't all fit the "horror" theme

swift pine
mental hound
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Nah dude there is some hidden code in this modpack

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For the SECOND time in a row, the Proc 4 zombie spawned with a tool

ashen cape
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that is cursed

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how are you moving your zombies btw?

mental hound
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I'm not. They're just chilling in the normal boxes

ashen cape
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ah, i meant how do you safely get them inside without having to deal with all the other night monsters

mental hound
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The original zombie?

ashen cape
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yes

mental hound
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Lured it into a narrow hallway behind the villager stations and closed it off

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I kinda just chilled by a wall until I heard one outside

ashen cape
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ah okay

mental hound
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Then popped out real quick and trapped it

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2/3 villagers I converted had tools this time around

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Only thing I can think of is having it on Hard mode increases the odds significantly

ashen cape
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Anyone remember if the IE external heater can work on the vanilla blast furnace?

mental hound
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I've never heard of that ever

copper umbra
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Did herobrine get removed?

ashen cape
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yes

copper umbra
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because I didnt see him since the update and I dont think the mod is there anymore

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bro wtf

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thats like removing the engine of a car

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why tho

ashen cape
valid zenith
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That's a unique bug...

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All the unique enemy variations (lumberjacks and such) are starting to bug out

wispy acorn
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the box of horrors is so confusing to me. the "deer" will appear in my world natural, but trying to spawn it in in my testing world. they are invisble

valid zenith
wispy acorn
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theres no info on this mod either, so its all dead ends

valid zenith
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They changed the engine out that runs on 35 to one that runs on 38.

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Also we said we're post Herobrine now

ashen cape
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So. I had more mobs spawn on my lit up island, seems they do in fact use the old system of light below seven, instead of specifically 0 light
I supposed thats actually useful - you can more easily "farm" them this way

valid zenith
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So we just kinda replaced the whole car

pulsar plover
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hello can someone help me with that (i want to go in the nether)

bleak wharf
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God wish you could move spawners

ashen cape
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do the quests

pulsar plover
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the quests?

wispy acorn
pulsar plover
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okay I will try, tysm

valid zenith
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Alright, what are good ways to get sanity again..

wispy acorn
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music disc, carpet, pets, campfires

copper umbra
bleak wharf
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Bed also

copper umbra
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and fishing

ashen cape
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higly filling food as well

mental hound
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Fishing isn't a good way to get sanity

valid zenith
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Anluka - Doors is apparently considered "sanity"

bleak wharf
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Wish there was a garland enchant

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or you could put it in ur curios slot

pulsar plover
mental hound
pulsar plover
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hm no?

mental hound
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So then you've never had a modpack with the quest book in the top left corner of your inventory screen?

slate iron
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Modify the sanity/common config for faster sanity gain

mental hound
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Wild, thats in almost every single modpack I've played in the last year.

slate iron
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Except ones that want you to use books lol

mental hound
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I don't recommend modifying the configs to make the sanity easier

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Balancing your sanity is one of the core parts of the modpack

slate iron
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I don’t think being forced to wait 10-20 minutes for your sanity to refill on nickels and dimes just for it to burn out in five minutes is balanced

mental hound
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If you're playing in a way that causes your sanity to drain in 5 minutes, you're playing wrong and being punished for it

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The modpack actively tries to dissude you from doing certain things, trying to force your way through the system is going to get you punished

slate iron
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I don’t think you get it lol

mental hound
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No I get it, its a challenge

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But its a challenge thats there on purpose

bleak wharf
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So I guess were just meant to sit on a broom in the air and shoot everything with arrows

mental hound
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Thats like going over to RLCraft and turning on keep inventory because you refuse to play carefully

slate iron
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You got to cheese

mental hound
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Theres literally nothing you have to cheese

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You're supposed to Fear Nightfall.

slate iron
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Not really

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Full enchanted gear and you can face tank every boss

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They’re just annoying

ashen cape
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Go face tank Neko Arc.

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Not a boss though...

bleak wharf
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Nekos passive!

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Poor cat demo

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n

ashen cape
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In legacy, it can one shot you in full enchanted ignitium with a full tarot deck. lmao

slate iron
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Literally in the Nether with 5 stacks of campfires and a juke box

bleak wharf
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Same! Just one campfire tho

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Lol

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Farmin xp

broken sonnet
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Anything I can play music out of other than a jukebox?

slate iron
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The altar was 5000 blocks from my nether portal

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I almost used every one

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Had to Keith going back to get more flesh eyes

ashen cape
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juke box backpacks would be nice

bleak wharf
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Wonder if it would work tho

slate iron
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Juke box backpack doesn’t raise sanity

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Already tried

mental hound
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What juke box backpack

slate iron
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The one from SB

mental hound
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Oh the mod that isn't in the modpack

slate iron
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Yes the mod that isn’t in the modpack

ashen cape
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this is lowkey really good
since only BiC mobs are spawning on my island i already have 3 of chapter 2 bosses down in 2 nights

bleak wharf
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.>

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hax

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Should try to make a mob farm with it

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Ive been sitting at 3 brute spawners for the last like 15 minutes

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Farmin xp

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I need like 200+ levels

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D:

mental hound
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Reset. your. gear.

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Way cheaper

ashen cape
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wait you're not getting to level 200 then using ancient tomes are you

bleak wharf
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Doesnt matter

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Ancient tomes are always 30 levels

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reseting isnt going to do anything on fr4esh gear is it anyway?

ashen cape
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you should be using them at exactly 30 levels, not 200
Huge exp waste if you don't

bleak wharf
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ya

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I em

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But to put the initial enchants on my sword I need 44

mental hound
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What enchants

slate iron
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I haven’t been put in a situation where I needed to mob farm

bleak wharf
mental hound
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I would split that

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At a minimum take off Despoil and put it onto a Flesh Plunderer

bleak wharf
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gross

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I already got the 44 levels anyway

mental hound
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🤷

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Enjoy the grind then I guess

slate iron
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The one true blade

bleak wharf
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Grinding is what its all aboutttt

mental hound
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Right

slate iron
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Right

bleak wharf
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Also

ashen cape
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Right

slate iron
bleak wharf
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Spiny armor set with thorns on it

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Best armor vs damned

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They kill themselves in like 2-3 hits

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I just sit there and let em kill themselves

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It also kills ranged skellys which are really annoying sometimes

lean patrol
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any1 know why on seeds of chaos the chapter 2 mobs wont spawn

lost sinew
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@swift pine I got it working by updating my Iris and Iris Flywheel compat to the latest version for 1.20.1

bleak wharf
lean patrol
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how do u check

bleak wharf
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f3

lean patrol
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wtf is a mother ship

bleak wharf
lean patrol
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i got the health bar on my screen

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lemmie see

mental hound
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Whelp I think its time to call it a night

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The game just pulled the biggest bs function ever

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Mobs shouldn't be able to steal things from you. But if they can, they shouldn't be able to be lost

lean patrol
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it says 0 but thats just not right at all

ashen cape
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Atmosphere trap resets your days

slate iron
ashen cape
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You can fix it back to your appropriate days with
./time add numberD

mental hound
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Time seat

ashen cape
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And
/HMdayreset false
Disables the tarp

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trap

mental hound
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tarp

lean patrol
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thnx!

ashen cape
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Np

slate iron
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Move the trap to your base. Make it so bosses never spawn again

ashen cape
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thats cheating tbh

mental hound
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And stupid

slate iron
mental hound
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That was rude

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My bad

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I am grumpy

ashen cape
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When are you gonna "Fear Nightfall" is you have godlike command over the day night cycle

mental hound
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If it didn't reset the day count, I would use it

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I was stupid and put mending on all of my gear before unbreaking. Now gaining levels is extremely slow

slate iron
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A lot of the configs are hilarious though after going through them all

mental hound
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And froze again

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Fourth freeze of the day

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Time to call it a night

velvet snowBOT
valid zenith
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Anything to know about the Primordial Cradle?

bleak wharf
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Kinda

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||Itll start changing blocks around it||

valid zenith
bleak wharf
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Ive found putting it on slabs stops it from spreading

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But I also dont really use it all that much anymore. You can kinda only use it once to get started and never need to use it again

valid zenith
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Okay, so what does it exactly do

bleak wharf
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You need it to get started in Biomancy. You put meat in the cradle and then a healing potion of some kinda till it starts making a flesh blob

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Which you can feed more meat to make it grow, which you wanna do

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Once its fully grown you kill it for flesh to make biomancy items

ashen cape
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^need to put in bones too

bleak wharf
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Do you?

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Do you just get the non hostile one?

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I just did meat and a potion and got the angry one

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Lol

rocky coyote
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My buddy only cares for the meat lmao

bleak wharf
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O>O

ashen cape
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lol

strange bough
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Quick question, can the damned spawn in caves during the day?

bleak wharf
# ashen cape lol

So im just kinda seeing something... I dont think thorns actually helps with increasing damage on the spiny armor set

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I just put thorns 4 on both pieces and the damage didnt change

ashen cape
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interesting
Maybe the set takes precedence over thorns

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i dunno if its still in the pack, but maybe that would make vooping better for the chest enchant

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it is not, nvm

bleak wharf
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o;

ashen cape
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Endless biomes? i think was removed

valid zenith
ashen cape
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aw man, that means no more neat elevators too

valid zenith
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Stab it for... living meat?

ashen cape
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Yes

valid zenith
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Alright...

ashen cape
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You can also feed it more meat after its spawned to increase its size, and how much it will drop

valid zenith
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Hmm, about the Missionary?

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Gonna be asking about bosses so she can uh

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honestly she's been around long enough to consider cheating chronologically ahead

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that and to be honest materails are stupid

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all you need is bamboo

ashen cape
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What about the missionary?

bleak wharf
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Idk if youve seen but you get the tarot card of weakness as a quest reward

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at the end of chap 3

valid zenith
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Anything

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More specifically is there any gimmick to be wary of?

ashen cape
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This fella?
Will jsut start spawning at the right day, and honestly, you can cheese it just by pillaring up a bit

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It does have the gimmick of causing rain, or maybe its thunderstorms, and can summon other undead though

valid zenith
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Or does he have something to do with walking through walls?

ashen cape
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Yeah. Peronsally i'm just as likely to cut down the bamboo as hit the enemies, so i use real fences

valid zenith
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Hmm.

ashen cape
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Ah
i forgot about this... hexerei woods can't craft shelves

valid zenith
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The AI has trouble pathing to you if it tends to involve bambo

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Except when it can sense a "hole" or the edge of a wall

ashen cape
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yes, thats why i don't use it
i'll miss then the monsters will flood in lol

valid zenith
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But yeah, no wall damage?

ashen cape
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Not from the missionary as far as i know

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i think the lifestealer might - i was fighting it and saw a "Block Break" buff on it

valid zenith
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Was it breaking blocks or was it just breaking your shield?

naive inlet
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what do loud f ing footsteps coming from the forest mean

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they kinda sounded slimy

valid zenith
ashen cape
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i don't use shields... but might've been for that actually

naive inlet
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no i was in the walls of my base

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and my sanity was full

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i forgot to clip it

valid zenith
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Hmm...

naive inlet
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but they were very loud steps and they shook the screens of me and my friends

valid zenith
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Were you walking on Blood?

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Oh

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Screenshake?

bleak wharf
naive inlet
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was it some of the chapter II boss

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the newest

bleak wharf
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Not sure, was gonna say if it was the old version it was prob siren head

naive inlet
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do one of these create loud footsteps?

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cause these are the only ones which we havent seen yet

willow perch
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Havent encountered him, but maybe the large skeleton on the left

wispy acorn
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all of those were fairly silent when i fought them. the pumpkin head laughs, other than that its quiet

naive inlet
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damn

ashen cape
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i've fought them all, none made loud footsteps

valid zenith
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Bad question

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What are all the good sources of Rotten Flesh, excluding Zombie Butchery and the occasional Horror Elements corpse?

willow perch
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majority of overworld structures give atrocious loot, and if you chose to, you will leave most with a decent bit of flesh

valid zenith
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Had a run-in with Mr. "The Damned"

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Who was really scary, but afterwards just really disappointing

naive inlet
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he is stoopidly fast

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barely hitable

valid zenith
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Like, how the fuck do you deal with Mr. "Teleports Behind You 'Nothing Personnel Kid' The Sixth"?

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You know what

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We're cheating.

bleak wharf
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lol

naive inlet
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huh

valid zenith
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Spawning him in, in creative mode, and stabbing him

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Because...

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He's just. Why.

lean patrol
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soooo im on day 2 and the first boss still hasnt spawned

bleak wharf
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Its just rng yo

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Gotta run around despawning things or killing things to get new things to spawn

naive inlet
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and after that the damned has spawned in 4 nights

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back to back

lean patrol
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hmm i see

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will he still spawn in after the first night?

naive inlet
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the knight?

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yes

lean patrol
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gotcha

naive inlet
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weve found him on night 4 or so

lean patrol
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roger doger

valid zenith
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Does the Damned spawn once per night by the way?

idle coral
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Hey when mining fake diamonds is a mob ment to spawn ?

bleak wharf
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Its got a small chance to but usually wont

naive inlet
idle coral
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Ok thanks 😉

naive inlet
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ive found him once every night now

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all 4 times inside our base

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protected by burning sage

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so he doesnt really care about anything

bleak wharf
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^

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Spawns in thin air even

idle coral
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I have had no luck finding chapter 2 bosses so I thought my game mobs might be bugged

bleak wharf
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What is your ingame day

idle coral
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6

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And nothing

bleak wharf
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Ah ya its just rng

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Try to avoid the structures that cause it to be night

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Cuz itll reset ur game day to zero

idle coral
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Ohhhh

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That's why

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My base is next to one 🥲

bleak wharf
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It only triggers once

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Unless u urself pick up the block > place it > break it

idle coral
#

Thanks for the info

bleak wharf
#

Where the fuck is the discord channel that shows the githubs for tehse packs

#

Since the mod devs dont really look in here and I got yelled at before for not telling bugs in the github

valid zenith
ashen cape
#

For the night trap:
./time add numberD (adds a number of days to fix it if you triggered one)
./HMdayreset false (to disable it from changing time)

valid zenith
#

He decided to spawn IN HER HOME

naive inlet
#

does anyone do hexerei here

#

how does the crystal ball work

bleak wharf
naive inlet
#

it doesnt do shit for me

valid zenith
#

For now

bleak wharf
#

^

ashen cape
#

It shows moon phase, but doesn't always wok with shaders

idle coral
ashen cape
#

F3 screen will show your number of days fyi

naive inlet
#

also how does the flute help commands work

#

because you cant unselect the first 3

#

also does the apollyon act like that outside this modpack too

#

or "the damned"

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cause he moves like a child overloaded with sugar

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breaking everything in its way

valid zenith
naive inlet
#

ok

ashen cape
#

I've looked at the damned with F3+B and its hitbox doesn't totally match its model, especially when its in "attack mode"
Its not hard to miss hitting it if its your first time fighting it

Its not quite as bad as some of the tenebrous lands ones, but still noticeable

#

This thing, for example has terrible alignement with its hitbox (legacy FN)

naive inlet
#

and what does it exactly show now?

ashen cape
#

Moon phase. You need to know its a full moon in order to make moon dust, not much use outside that.
It also doesn't often work with shaders

idle coral
valid zenith
#

Went insane for the first time

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(fought an enderman, which has the HIGHEST insanity damage)

bleak wharf
#

lol

valid zenith
#

Fortunately monsters never spawned

naive inlet
#

it still doesnt show anyting

valid zenith
#

Also, why would she throw bricks?

ashen cape
#

The atmosphere block simple stops working at all

idle coral
#

Don't know how you fixed it but i will just stop going in churches xD

naive inlet
#

WE JUST HAD 3 DAMNED IN 2 MINS

#

what the hell is going on

bleak wharf
#

Luck

naive inlet
#

nah

ashen cape
#

Yes i also nitced that when i did the command
But it did start working for me

naive inlet
#

we just want to build walls

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i didnt do no command

#

lmao

bleak wharf
#

Hes talking to a different person not you Yung

naive inlet
#

oh

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lol

valid zenith
bleak wharf
#

Man sharpness 5 on a villager trade is so hard to get for me >>

ashen cape
#

Did someone mention The Damned teleporting through walls without actually "seeing" them?
Because i have one outside my house and its just standing there. MENACINGLY

valid zenith
valid zenith
#

One spawned in her home

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Unless they spawn in one place

#

then they teleport to a distant location

#

then attack

ashen cape
#

They only are supposed to tleport if they see you from wha ti know

valid zenith
#

yeah then it just spawned and broke one of her barrels or whatever

ashen cape
#

i am so glad they despawn with daylight
i had 4 outside my house lol

valid zenith
#

OH GOD CHICKENS HAVE LEGS

#

GOES FLYING THROUGH SEVERAL WALLS

ashen cape
#

Ow. Does anyone know if this rolling giant thing has anything worth looting? The "shop" it was in seems empty... and the thing packs a punch, 6 hearts of damage with full iron + hermit card

#

Box of horros wiki is missing any info on it... not surprising

bleak wharf
#

Lol I always wondered what would be in there

#

Everytime ive gone in one it was empty

ashen cape
#

Its seems a bunch of the BoH buildings tend to be empty
I've found alot of the Chucky buildings, but only fought him twice

bleak wharf
#

Ya think its cuz of that whole 40% spawns chance shit

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That BiC has

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Same thing for Box

ashen cape
#

makes sense
though i think having spawn restrictions across an entire mod instead of for specific ones isn't ideal with BoH

valid zenith
#

"Box of Horrors"
looks inside
NO DOCUMENTATION

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like

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It's just IKEA furniture but you got no instruction booklet

ashen cape
#

If these Courier houses chiseled bookshelves were actually useable... they would be an inasne early find
23 of them, would set you up with a load of early enchants

bleak wharf
#

He didnt drop anything that time but im sure it was just a bad rng roll

ashen cape
#

the rolling giant dude?

bleak wharf
#

ya

meager torrent
#

It's probably purposely not acknowledged because it's supposed to be a secret; Kuro-modding isn't exactly known for being forthcoming about what they're including in their mods.

#

Hiding the rolling giant? That's just par for the course,

#

I'm just upset he's only two blocks tall

ashen cape
#

Closer to 3 i think, wasn't able to follow me outside after nearly deleting my health

meager torrent
#

Probably drops flowers or something, there generally isn't any reward for killing something in BOH

meager torrent
# valid zenith Is there more to this place?

There is a secret top level of the tower that you can break into by just physically refusing to stop swinging a pickax that contains a lot of dark metal ore. You need silk touch to get it.

bleak wharf
#

Wat

ashen cape
#

you don't need silk touch

#

theres also no reason to go through that way when you can just pillar up outside and break in through the fence windows

empty atlas
#

how do i stop the Damned from spawning in constantly. It was scary at first but now its just over and over constantly when at my base

bleak wharf
#

U dont!

willow perch
#

I used a mod called 'Bad Mobs' to disable it, hasn't seemed to break anything yet

#

It can be used serverside only as well if you are hosting one

empty atlas
#

who thought this was a good idea lol. I kill it and it just spawns 5 seconds later

empty atlas
willow perch
#

Yeah, its another slop dweller mod, I thought it'd be much more uncommon

#

Yes, and then you can go into its config file and disable spawning for both Apollyon mobs

#

Might break stuff though, but so far I've been alright

empty atlas
#

this one?

willow perch
#

Yes

#

Config is very easy to understand, launch the game once and it will generate the file with the ability to disable every single enemy from spawning

empty atlas
#

awsome, thanks!

willow perch
#

np

#

did you find it?

empty atlas
#

yep, literally 1 sec after i asked lol

cold vortex
#

any servers i can join in the new 1.0.2

bleak wharf
#

hmm when I use the bloody alter eye my game seems to freeze...

last hollow
#

Is it possible to find a working slime chunk in 1.19.2? I'm trying to make a Slime farm to supply my Absorption stimulant lab but I don't think they have chance to spawn in this modpack, I dug like 7 chunks about 3 in height and none slimes

bleak wharf
#

There should be but they prob only spawn at night

last hollow
#

slimes can spawn anytime in slimechunks

bleak wharf
#

Eh i mean that most mob spawns are altered in that pack but I think I remember slimes spawning in creative flat worlds during the day

last hollow
#

I tried to find ONE single slime in a swamp but random mobs keep spawning in their place

#

I'll keep trying :/

bleak wharf
#

Ya not sure

#

I know ive found a slime spawner deep in the ground before I used to farm em

#

I thought there was another easier way to get slime balls in that version but I cant remember its been awhile

last hollow
#

oof, a slime spawner would be nuts

bleak wharf
#

Cheezuz have you used the blood alter eye at all yet?

ashen cape
#

yeah, theres also slime sinkhole dungeons
one trip through one of those with looting 4, you'll have more than you'll ever need

#

I haven't been to the nether yet

#

Still on chapter 2 on my HC world

bleak wharf
#

:\ They seem to be bugged for me

#

Everytime I try to use one my game softlocks? for a few seconds

#

then nothin happens and everything starts working again

#

I wonder if it has something to do with it not being near by enough

#

Cuz they work in a creative world

ashen cape
#

i think i ran into a bug too
Bunch of stuff is missing after i sorted it into chests after finally settling down
Control + Q threw a bunch of stuff on the ground from my coffers, wondering if i deleted it somehow
Nothing that'll take to long to replace, but annoying to have to go back out to find when i know i collected a bunch of it

bleak wharf
#

I fuckin unbound Q lol

#

I kept throwing shit by accident

left pond
#

Ok, whats with the sudden night thing?

#

For multiple worlds now, it just turns absolute night out of nowhere

ashen cape
#

Its the Atmosphere block inside certan Horror Elements structures

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when activated by redstone, it set it to night, and worse, sets your day count to zero

#

./time add numberD (adds a number of days to fix it if you triggered one)
./HMdayreset false (to disable it from changing time)
To fix it try these commands

left pond
#

...

#

Ok.
And are those breacher creepers still a thing?

bleak wharf
#

AWYAAAAA

bleak wharf
#

Jaden's Nether Expansion disc in the juke box is pretty good

ashen cape
#

Huh
i just watched a damed spawn like 4 blocks in front of me - it dropped from the air... i guess that explains them spawning in the ocean

bleak wharf
#

Ya

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Lol

ashen cape
#

2 now :/
I want to fight one for chapter 2 completion
But i don't seem to get a choice, each night theres several close together, and thats a little to much atm

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5 total
They spawn way more frequently than any other boss, and are easily the most annoying to fight in groups, would be nice if the rates were reduced

bleak wharf
#

They dont see through walls eh?>

ashen cape
#

nope

#

i'm tunneling underground to kill the 2 on my lawn lol

bleak wharf
#

xD

ashen cape
#

huh, the other 4 dissapeared after i killed 2

#

oh hey, they do actually spawn outside the towers

bleak wharf
#

@ashen cape ^

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Thats fucked lmao

ashen cape
#

lmao what

willow perch
#

Box of Horror's ridiculous mechanics never fail to blow my mind at their ridiculousness

feral prairie
trim glade
#

So is it just me or is there an increase in Creepers?

ashen cape
#

There definitely is

willow perch
#

There is tons now

ashen cape
#

no zombies/skeletons during the day, the other spawns increases instead

trim glade
#

Alright, I thought I was going crazy

#

Just want to farm in peace..

shrewd thunder
#

can you get glowing ores with the hysteria shaders?

#

i cant seem to find the setting

frail prairie
#

guys how to get the dammed quest in chapter 2

left pond
#

Ngl.
The breacher ability is doing my head in.

mental hound
#

Put an airgap between your walls

#

They can detect from quite a distance so like you should have a secondary wall 5+ blocks out from your main wall

#

And/or waterlog your walls

plush hare
#

so much progress now that terraforming is done

#

the stone brick wall is 7 blocks tall

#

and im working on bamboo spikes on top

#

goofy ahh house and villager house

#

um

#

our two villagers are gone moji_evolved

#

WHERE ARE WILSON AND MAXWELL 😭

shrewd thunder
#

idk what could cause it now

#

but in the 1.19.2 version

#

they used the badmobs mod to instantly remove posessed villagers, because they caused issues

#

but that didnt stop them from becoming posessed

#

so if a villager becomes posessed, they just vanish

plush hare
#

what would poessesion come from?

#

I'm going to be so sad if they're just gone we worked so hard to get them

#

Nothing can get in their house either

shrewd thunder
#

herobrine

plush hare
#

Herobrine isn't in this version

shrewd thunder
#

Oh you're on 1.20?

plush hare
#

It's Remaind of Chaos 1.0.2

#

Yeah

shrewd thunder
#

1.20 doesn't have herobrine????

#

he's like the main villain

plush hare
#

Herobrine is canonically dead in Remains of Chaos

#

So it doesn't have the herobrine mods

shrewd thunder
#

So remains of chaos takes place after you've killed herobrine??

plush hare
#

Basically yeah

shrewd thunder
#

weird

#

i thought it just added an endgame to that lol

plush hare
#

It's a reboot of Fear Nightfall sort of but it does take place after Herobrine is gone

#

I'm going to have to tell my sister that Wilson and Maxwell are gone moji_wailing

shrewd thunder
#

i needed something scary to play and this wasnt out yet so i just loaded up the 1.20 steampunk update with horror mods and the hysteria shaders and i've been doing that smh

#

need my create addiction filled

plush hare
#

gonna reopen the game and see if my villagers come back

#

WHERE ARE THEY 😭

shrewd thunder
#

baby zombie could have got in?

#

if it isnt on hard they have a chance to just die instead of getting infected

plush hare
#

Nope, things ant get in, its closed off

shrewd thunder
#

maybe they just dont like you

plush hare
#

Well lit, nothing can spawn in

#

Wilson and Maxwell eloped

#

I FOUND WHAT HAPPENED

#

:(

shrewd thunder
#

deadeded?

plush hare
#

I had a sneaking suspicion

shrewd thunder
#

spiderered?

plush hare
#

There was a spider on the outside of their house, on the wall

#

It must have attacked them through the wall

#

I didn't know spiders attacked villagers 😭

shrewd thunder
#

they dont

#

must be a thing the pack added

plush hare
#

this is so sad

#

time to make graves for them

#

memorials </3

#

okay. now at least we know that when we build the other houses for the village, we need to make sure spiders cant ATTACK THROUGH THE WALLS!

#

and with the spikes on the village wall, they shouldnt be getting in anyways. and if they do... its kill on sight...

#

RIP 💔

glad sparrow
#

were they dogs or?

#

oh no villagers

#

good riddance fr fr

plush hare
#

NO

#

WE WORKED SO HARD TO GET THEM FOR OUR VILLAGE

#

😭

#

SINCE WHEN DO SPIDERS KILL VILLAGERSSS

shrewd thunder
#

just give into the voices

#

remove the villagers from the blacklist of carryon or supplementaries cages

plush hare
#

All spiders are now my enemy

#

Well there's no villages nearby

#

We're far from civilization

#

Hmm

shrewd thunder
#

so wait is there like a final boss in this anymore or is it just survive and exist?

plush hare
#

there's a story campaign

mental hound
#

Is there some kind of secret spawner limiter mod in this pack I am unaware of?

strange bough
# bleak wharf

Oh what the, that explains it. Well when does he spawn?

fierce condor
#

im hosting a server for me and my friend but the day counter keeps reseting so were not seeing any of the boss mobs? is this an mod issue?

feral prairie
#

uhh, this is more of a general minecraft question, but how far do I have to make my mob farms away from one another to not make my game crash because of too many entities?

#

like, how far away are mobs/animals loaded from the player?

slow meteor
#

depends on your simulation distance

feral prairie
#

man, my base is gonna have to be about 100X bigger if I want my mob farm in my base

#

ughhhhhhh

#

hey, how far up in the sky do you have to be for groundbound mobs to not spot you?

mental hound
mental hound
#

If ya'll would be so kind...

glad sparrow
#

(assuming vanilla spawn ranges)

#

they also can't spawn in like a 24 block range of the player but im pretty sure thats fucked considering the amount of cave dwellers that decide "Yep time to spawn in this man's house"

mental hound
#

Why does my RMB on crops randomly stop working...

idle coral
#

One weird thing I noticed is mob eggs in creative don't seem to work, is that the normal behavior ?

#

I'm hesitant to go back to a previous version of the modpack to make sure everything works perfectly 😅

valid zenith
valid zenith
#

So you might need to /time add xd (x being how many days you wanna add)

#

and D basically the denoter for "days to add"

mental hound
valid zenith
#

but sometimes the crops might look grown? Though if it's actually a case of "the crop just doesn't want to be picked up"

mental hound
#

Growth is saying Mature

valid zenith
#

If it's the top of Industrial Hemp, it's not considered a plant

#

otherwise no idea what is going on with your game

mental hound
#

Nope, onions, beets, and potatoes

valid zenith
#

Yeah no clue then

mental hound
#

Its not consistent. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Not sure why

#

Going to try a reboot

#

Not a big deal otherwise, I don't have a large plot

#

More annoying that it randomly flips

#

Rebooting fixed it 😄

idle coral
mental hound
#

The "wiki" for Box of Horrors. Linking it here since the devs felt the need to hide access to the wiki behind joining their Discord.

#

@north axle

Q: how do i enter the backrooms
A: happens rarely when taking suffocation damage

cunning root
mental hound
#

Which mod page?

#

Curse Forge or a different one?

#

@cunning root

cunning root
#

Curse Forge.

mental hound
#

That one right there?

cunning root
#

No.

mental hound
#

Is there a different CurseForge page with a different Wiki link or am I missing something?

cunning root
#

That one.

#

You have to scroll down a bit.

mental hound
#

So the one half way down the page hidden in the middle of everything

cunning root
#

Kind of.

mental hound
#

Fair enough

#

I'll ammend my original point

#

Still, using the wiki link to bring people to the Discord is just annoying

cunning root
#

They might have done that because the Trello wiki seems kind of outdated and you might get more updated info on the Discord.
But I agree, they should have linked to the actual wiki there.

mental hound
#

Their Discord just gives you a link the trello

#

They use the same thing for the SCP Overtime mod instead of an actual wiki

#

I'm just venting about mod devs with lacking documentation

valid zenith
#

Okay, hmm

cunning root
#

Understandable.

valid zenith
#

Spawners work at night, normally, right?

mental hound
#

Bruh spawners are jank

#

I set up the one you found in the main room and after finishing, it refuses to spawn anything

#

Doesn't matter time of day, light level, player distance, nada

valid zenith
#

Hmm.

#

Ah shit, bloodmoon

#

What do Bloodmoons do? Nothing outside of common knowledge, e.g. lots of hostile spawning spam?

mental hound
#

Yeah

cunning root
#

I think there was some kind of mod that let's spawners only spawn a certain amount of waves, so you couldn't abuse them for farms.
Idk what it was called though, or if it's part of the modpack.

mental hound
#

That and the Mechanic, the Zoologist, and the Nurse are all in a bitter mood

valid zenith
#

No special monsters on a Bloodmoon?

#

Kinda got herself stuck in a (now quite useless) place with (now quite useless) spawners.

mental hound
#

Preach

#

Hopefully Elocin or Sharkie can fix it in the next patch

frail prairie
#

guys how to get the dammed quest in chapter 2

mental hound
#

What day are you on

frail prairie
#

idk

#

but i know the dammed spawn many times

mental hound
#

And you killed it many times?

frail prairie
#

nope

#

do i have to kill it

mental hound
#

You have to kill all of them in Chapter 2 to unlock their rewards.

#

Though you only need to kill 4 of them to move to the next chapter

frail prairie
#

any tips to kill it

mental hound
#

Git gud

valid zenith
#

About the Flesh of Demise, what does it do if you eat it?

north axle
#

guys what can i do against the sneaking terror? he has 700 hp and is invisible ;-;

valid zenith
valid zenith
#

Or cocaine, or whatever it is

north axle
#

no

mental hound
#

So then do nothing

#

Why would you want to aggravate an invisible monster with 700hp

valid zenith
#

But uh, what does the Flesh of Demise do when eaten?

mental hound
velvet snowBOT
mental hound
#

Oh boy

#

Seems that last one did it in for my save file

#

New chunks won't render in and the world won't close out

#

Works just fine in a creative test world...

slate iron
#

lmao cartographer villager

#

Did the crash happen after traveling an large amount of chunks?

mental hound
#

No the game froze when I was fighting some creepers in a village I had been in for about 20 minutes

#

When I reloded the world, the chunks I was just in a few blocks away refused to load. I tried to go back home and the world refused to load a distance away too

#

After a few reboots, the world is loading in again on my way home. I'm about to head back to the spot though

#

I tried to go back but I hit another wall of chunks not loading in and the console is giving me these errors

#

[11/11/2024 08:32:05 AM] [Server thread/WARN] Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 5379ms or 107 ticks behind

#

My game is locked up again

#

Oh wow it actually closed out with a fuss this time

#

And locked up again

#

Ok this is the last log I am going to drop for this

velvet snowBOT
mental hound
#

Whatever is causing these "[08:38:30] [ModernFix integrated server watchdog/ERROR]: A single server tick has taken 80754, more than 40000 milliseconds" type errors is happening over and over

#

I cannot reproduce it and it happens so inconsistently with no similar events so I have no idea how to move forward with this

#

I'm just going to put this modpack down until this can be looked at

ashen cape
#

The damned spawning sucks
Having it airdrop itself onto my fully lit up island is not fun to deal with

valid zenith
#

So

#

unfortunately

#

The modpack has a bit of a problem?

#

Apparently CREEPERS WILL IGNORE SPAWN CONDITIONS AND SPAWN NEAR THE PLAYER IN FULL LIGHT

ivory portal
#

aww great!!

valid zenith
#

Which has nearly destroyed her sanity.

ivory portal
#

so great to hear that!!!

valid zenith
#

Welp.

ivory portal
#

whose sanity?

valid zenith
#

Time to deal with that sanity problem

ashen cape
#

i just found that Hexerei double chests don't work properly with hoppers
They will be treated as a sinlge chest by hoppers..

idle coral
#

Any tips on fighting at night ? I can't see shit 😂

ashen cape
#

Torches. Everywhere.
Or get nightvision

idle coral
#

But with torches everywhere mobs won't spawn

slate iron
#

Use a water bucket into spike traps

valid zenith
#

What's the Fury spell do?

valid zenith
#

No seriously, plant your bamboo!

ashen cape
#

Which works great until the Damned decides to spawn inside your walls

valid zenith
ashen cape
#

Cats, pandas, hoglins, iirc

#

Or... buy them off a butcher

#

You can get both fangs and claws as the first trade

valid zenith
#

Okay, and the butcher likes the Smoker, right?

ashen cape
#

Yes

#

Anyone know what it is that causes pumpkin/melon stems to break, after breaking the block next to it?

ashen cape
#

No, an axe on the melons/pumpkins themselves
It was a problem in legacy too

valid zenith
#

Hmm...

#

Don't know what could do that for you, sorry

cloud kayak
#

what are the main horror mods in the modpack?

ashen cape
#

It seems you can make the damned despawn by having it chase you for a while

north axle
#

what for do i need spinels?

ashen cape
#

Trading with the box of horrors merchant

north axle
#

whats that for a merchant? o.o

#

where can i find him?

valid zenith
#

DO SOMETHING ALREADY

#

SHE FED YOU EYES, PORK AND INSTANT HEALTH

valid zenith
ashen cape
#

Did you use bones as well?

valid zenith
#

Yep. Nothing happened.

#

It really likes eating bones though

ashen cape
#

Instnat health 1, or 2?

valid zenith
#

Five pork, a few eyes, a bunch of bones and one Instant Health 1 that was awarded to her

north axle
ashen cape
#

You need 2 instant health 1 from what i remember of legacy - or 1 level 2

valid zenith
#

...

#

Well, where the fuck is she getting Warts from

ashen cape
#

Several places - dark wells, horror elements labs (stone brick building, loads of daylight sensors on the roof), or whatever these towers are called

valid zenith
#

That's interesting, Pillagers are considered non-human-like

#

Welp, off to go find bile glands

#

Wait, could this witch village contain some?

somber pumice
#

They've taken out a bunch of mob mods, haven't they?

#

I hardly see any modded ones aside from Born in Chaos.

ashen cape
#

There are 2 types of those towers, i'm not sure if both have the netherwart, but pretty sure they do

#

Enhanced AI, which makes creepers destroy walls to get to you

wispy acorn
#

They changed it even more

valid zenith
#

Searching the Herexi Witch place

#

No warts.

ashen cape
#

You need both now?

#

What reason is there for building a base if the damned can spawn inside it anyway, ignoring light level :/

north axle
#

what is a scarlet persecuter like wth they are fast as f boy

ashen cape
#

you're being haunted by angry ghosts

north axle
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what can i do against them? i just killed the chaos knight

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before they were spawn

wispy acorn
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Yeah. I tried two health and it didn’t do anything. So I looked at the quest again and it’s a regen then health

ashen cape
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Do you know if it needs to be specifically in that order?

naive inlet
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guys how do i find the chapter 2 bosses

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except the damned one i havent seen one

valid zenith
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Remind her the recipes for Regeneration and Health..

ashen cape
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Netherwart -> ghast tear
Nether wart > glistening melon

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Ghast tears can also be found in that tower i mentioned earlier

valid zenith
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And you said they had daylight detectors, labs right?

ashen cape
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yes

valid zenith
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The hard part is finding them on her own so we're /locateing them

ashen cape
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I'm not sure of its actual name

mental hound
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I've also found nether stuff in the lava fountains

ashen cape
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Also has a guranteed diamond, feather falling 4 book, and music disc

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The tears in the towers aren't guranteed, but with how good al the other loot in them is, its still good to find them even if you don't get what you want

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Enhanced AI, its creepers targeting your walls.

mental hound
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Same thing someone else told you earlier

ashen cape
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^

mental hound
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Maybe don't delete your original message and repost it before taking the time to read the replies

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Weird flex but ok

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How would I go about completely wiping chunks and regenerating them

slow meteor
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deleting region files

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but they delete like

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a 32x32 chunk radius

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so

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ifyou want individual chunks you might need to delete the individual chunks inside the mca file

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but inever tried that so idk if it works

mental hound
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Oof

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Maybe Amulet has a chunk deleter

ivory portal
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is anyone else having this...issue?

mental hound
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Yeah its a resource pack issue. I think Ashen?

ashen cape
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In the main menu if you toggle between light/dark mode, seesm to fix that

mental hound
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Yo did that guy just delete his questions for the second time

ashen cape
valid zenith
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uses a party popper to... break your walls?

mental hound
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I tried to toggle it back and forth but no go. Looks like it has to be on light mode for the text to show

ivory portal
valid zenith
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Anyways, what does Jason drop? She just stabbed the guy once and he started taking enough damage from DoTs(?) to go down to 8 HP, are iron swords lethal to him or... do crows also do damage

mental hound
mental hound
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Not a guarantee

ivory portal
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ah you right!!

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it was bugged, i had to click multiple times to get it to change

mental hound
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Anyone know the backstory behind the floating fetuses?

mental hound
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Just killed one, dropped an Exotic Soul

ivory portal
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oh how nice!!

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in the overworld?

mental hound
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Yeah'

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Kinda felt bad for killing it but

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It was ugly so

ivory portal
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can't wait to meet them too!!!

mental hound
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If you sleep enough, you will have the opportunity to meet a lot of them

swift pine
summer sphinx
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Hi my voice chat doesn't seem to work even though I added my input and output, I also cant hear others. Anyone know how to fix this?

wispy acorn
willow perch
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Died here to Stalker, came back there to this

slow meteor
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easy fight for a guy like me

valid zenith
mental hound
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Tell you what right now, as some one who has only watched others play with the sculk invasion mods, I am not looking forward to it

valid zenith
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Tomb loot

mental hound
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Don't think I have seen that building yet

valid zenith
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Copper spire?

mental hound
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lol yes

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I got like 51 blocks from that thing

naive inlet
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what does it mean if red text says "you feel like something is chasing you" in chat?

valid zenith
mental hound
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Anyone know what makes the moose call?

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deer_idle is the sound, don't ever see any deer around though....

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Oh its a "not deer"

ashen cape
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is there no way to automate wheat dough whort of making a whole assembler for it?

mental hound
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Whats the benefit

ashen cape
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better wheat to bread converion

mental hound
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Oh

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I just do ratatoille, so no idea about all that

ashen cape
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1:1 instead of 3:1

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nah i'm using it for a villager breeder

mental hound
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I set up an automated one and left it running. Not the best but it gets me a new villager every day or so depending how often I go to the village

ashen cape
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mines automatic, i'm just impatient and wanted to spam bread at them lol

mental hound
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A watched pot never boils, a watched villager never

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Breeds

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Whelp it finally happened

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The Damned spawned into my base

coral pagoda
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hi guys

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how do we set up VR for this modpack

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because the "link" on the curseforge page is not clickable

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do i just put vivecraft in the modpack?

ashen cape
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Vivecraft is already in the modpack

coral pagoda
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OK so if i get in the game from VR it just opens right

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i suppose i need to use steamVR for it

ashen cape
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This tells you how to set it up

coral pagoda
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thanks a lot

naive inlet
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how can i transport villagers

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those f ers break boats and minecarts

mental hound
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Btw just for the peeps, some numbers.

Passive Sanity Gains (in % per second):
Within 4 blocks of campfire - 1
Near Pet - 0.15
Walking on carpet or dirt path - 0.09
Pleasant Music - 0.08 [Examples: Cat, Far, Sir Pumpkinhead]
[MP] Near player with Sanity >50% - 0.05

Active Sanity Gains (in % per action/CD in minutes:seconds)
Animal Breeding - 9/10:00
Spawn Baby Chicken - 5/5:00
Eating - 0.8/3:20
Fishing - 1.3/Unl but per catch
Potting flower - 4/5:00
Shearing Sheep - 5/5:00
"Sleeping" - 50/20:00 [Dangerous]
Trade with Villager - 20/10:00

naive inlet
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bruh

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is that the only way

mental hound
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Water streams

valid zenith
mental hound
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lol thats funny

valid zenith
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Anyways

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Are Witch Hazel and Willow the same in speed and such?

mental hound
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Yeah

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Honestly not worth getting