a small problem

[heady hollow]

so the mod works great without optifine thats true but with optifine I cant open the game Ive seen videos of youtubers use this mod but also use texture packs that need optifine to work like forgelabs and his crew use this mod but use texture packs that require optifine to work so how come they dont have problems like me? in your guidelines you said yes you should never be using it aka optifine but they use optifine and the mod still works is there maybe a solution to the problem? this is what I get when trying to open the game with optifine and this mod. mod file: /c:/users/gaming/appdata/roaming/.minecraft/mods/supplementaries-1.19.2-2.4.10.jar failure message: supplementaries (supplementaries) encountered an error during the sided_setup event phase java.lang.nosuchmethoderror: 'void net.minecraft.client.renderer.block.model.bakedquad.<init>(int[], int, net.minecraft.core.direction, net.minecraft.client.renderer.texture.textureatlassprite, boolean, boolean)'

[serene sedge]

When texture pack that needs optifine to work, it means it requires a feature of optifine to work, not the entire optifine mod itself, so what you can do is try to find a mod that only adds that feature of optifine, replace it with optifine

[heady hollow]

Im using the zombie pack from tsioc or whats his name and the hardcore darkness texture pack

cuz Im doing a hardcore horror smp with my friends

[serene sedge]

Give me the texture pack download link

[heady hollow]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/texture-packs/dswg-darkness

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/texture-packs/tissous-zombie-pack-optifine-1-7x-1-19

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/texture-packs/human-player-villagers

those are the ones we use

we are using forge 43.3.0 and mc version 1.19.2 btw

[serene sedge]

Is the texture pack required?

[heady hollow]

yeah we need it for the smp

[serene sedge]

Oh damn

[heady hollow]

its supposed to be a horror smp lol

and with that you need to place torches every 3 blocks

[serene sedge]

Hmm

[heady hollow]

its pitch black

[serene sedge]

Optifine break a lot of blocks

I mean mods

And im not majoring techical

Stuff

I have encountered a pack that requires optifine to work before and accidentally fix it

[heady hollow]

honestly if there was a mod that added those candle holders and the skull with candles and the pillars that supplementaries adds Id take them

those are the only things that would go great with the horror smp we are doing

the sack would be great too but can always replace it with the backpack mod

if there isnt a solution Ill just do it without the mod wont be as epic but still

thanks for the help tho 🙂

[cerulean hill]

There is literally no reason ever why anybody should ever be using otpifine in 2023

It has crap performance, it breaks mods and forge itself

And has had a terrible reputation through the years

And way better alternatives exist

[heady hollow]

all the resource packs that I use and ever used only work with optifine and in description says optifine required

[cerulean hill]

https://github.com/TheUsefulLists/UsefulMods

[serene sedge]

Put this on your youtube channel banner

[cerulean hill]

its unbelieveable how uninformed people are, especially resource pack people.

i once tried making a small landing page for it but lost motivation https://mehvahdjukaar.github.io/McPerformanceMods/

[heady hollow]

I opened that link and dont understand a word there lol

[heady hollow]

that requires cursefroge I have the paid account my friends all 12 of them got cracked mc so they cant use curseforge

[cerulean hill]

that's why i was trying to make a more user friendly one

[heady hollow]

I dont have any problems with optifine lol and been using it for years

[cerulean hill]

yes thats exactly why this cancer keeps on proliferating. It has a name for it, been there for years, people thing its the only one truth or god. My page gives a brief summary of the problem

[serene sedge]

That is until you touch mods

[heady hollow]

only mod that has problems with it is this mod

[cerulean hill]

tldr: dev is anty community, performance is risible compared to other mods, its not even a mod and coded in a way which barely works even with forge (1.19 version didnt) and its inherintely incompatible with mods

[heady hollow]

all the mods I use are good with optifine

I use 75 mods all work

[cerulean hill]

also its closed source so means even attempting shitty workaround patches is super hard, almost impossible if it wasnt for shady website that decompile it against its license

[cerulean hill]

by chance

so really no reason to use when ypu get way better performance with embeddium+ modernfix and others

[heady hollow]

maybe but optifine has been there for years no virus or problem with it these new ones can hack me...

[cerulean hill]

and if you want me to get technical (might add such a section there), the reason why optifine is so shit is because it does not use a loader. it applies direct patches to the vanilla code. this is just like what forge does but we all compile against forge code not optifine code. That means if we use mixins, a popular super compatible tool that alows for compatible code motidication without actually patching it tourself on some code which optifrick happened to have messed up, it all explodes when the game loads that class (could be immediately, could be at random)

and a bit of history, known major issue it had were in 1.19 where it was literally incompatible with forge itself as it would patch the same exact place as forge did making th 2 not work together when a mod happened to use that forge class, or in some past versions where majong glitches with other mods were notirous like twilightforest having naga completely invisible or entities onfire for no reason at all

in short its a terrible mod that nody should ever use

[heady hollow]

after reading all that I feel like Im on reddit lmao

[cerulean hill]

wtf does that mean

[heady hollow]

well new mods could have malware on them

I get hacked my pc gets fried

anything could happen

[cerulean hill]

all mods are open soruce. most of them. anybody can see what they do as clear as water

optifine isnt

if one had to b a virus it would be them

[heady hollow]

oh well it is what it is

Ill just play without supplementaries and thats it problem solved

when I dont need resource packs Ill use the mod

[cerulean hill]

kind of sad tbh. We'll still have to deal with this optifine crap because i bet the majority of people are like you. Even when presented with facts they prefer to stick to their old reality rather than accept the new one.

I honestly blame it on the resource pack community (insert fossil fluel industry analogy)

[serene sedge]

Some packs do state that installing mods with feature similiar to those on optifine (like entity model thingy) will also work so atleast thats a plus

[cerulean hill]

the only "advantage" optifine has is that its easy to install and has all its shit (this of course means thats in many case it actually slows the game down)
this fact is only relevant to people that dont use mods and my page is set to adress that as installing Fabulously Optimized also takes 2 clicks

[untold drum]

one big reason people use optifine (at least in my experience) is that they discovered it before modding (since it doesn't need a launcher) and then got too used to using it for zoom and dynamic lighting
another is that there are no alternatives to it prior to 1.16

[untold drum]

and regarding this, you can still download mods off of curse without an account, you just need an account to use the curse launcher 💀

[cerulean hill]

yeah that people are unaware and misinformed is the main point

unfortunately im not big enough in the community or have enough time to convince others to use the banner and start pushing for that

i didnt even manage to finish that page ;_;

[signal flower]

If anyone looks at this Link above. Find "Note on Optifine"
it has details of what happened and a good alternative mod that repalce it.

I don't use Curseforge becuase it required Overwolf App to working. It's not a standalone app. I left it long time ago.

I'm using

• Prism Launcher (it's a bit tricky to use)
• GDLauncher (is nice and simple)

there are other apps that can do same things as Curseforge can. GDLauncher is currently being re-written so it will support NeoForge, and other loaders. it's in Alpha

[heady hollow]

Im using the regular mc launcher

[cerulean hill]

btw that missing method error there is what i was saying. optifine literally removes that method and its a forge added method. optifine 1.19 is not copatible with forge.

somebody even made a small mod that ""fixes"" that error just necasue of dev didnt for 2 greaking years

i mean what does OF dev even care abut forge when it makes more money with selling those technically against Mojang TOS capes than the entire forge donation page over its entire existance

[signal flower]

idk that. so The dev of OF have lost respect from the community because of the choices was made regarding OF 🤔

[cerulean hill]

he has no respect whatsoever from the modding community i can tell you that

[signal flower]

yea i've heard about that, too

[untold drum]

and it goes both ways

after all, he explicitly disallows use of optifine in modpacks

[final summit]

its still weird how they went and decided to add aether compat

OF is a weird, old and outdated mod

im not joking, according to the devs, the OF devs fixed it on their side

I wish there was more optifine alternatives not just for fabric but for forge (and now neoforge) as well

I only use optifine because of stuff like connected textures, animated items, menus, etc

but a bunch of those features are now in many fabrics mods, not on forge/neoforge

[signal flower]

lol. the reaction in the picture is quite hilarious.

alright, the information from "Note on Opfitine" Link above (provided by MehVahdJukaar) have 3 mods as an alternative. the last update is "last month".

creating a echancing mod like Optifine or Sodium is a lot of work. 3 excluding optifine is good enough.

[heady hollow]

I hate this new generation lmao before OF meant optifine now when I see OF I get sick (if you know you know)

[cerulean hill]

what if OF OF

[signal flower]

OOOHhhh.